Hidden Symptoms of H Pylori
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- Опубликовано: 27 янв 2022
- 👍 Order your own functional medicine lab kits in my labshop: labs.rupahealth.com/store/sto... H. Pylori: Hidden symptoms and facts! H Pylori is known to cause gastritis and ulcers- but could it be behind your rosacea, hives, sore throat symptoms or even an ear infection? Yes! H Pylori, full name helicobacter pylori, is common but can lead to the above problems and has been linked to dementia and certain types of cancers. H. Pylori is known to reside in the stomach but also is found in your mouth and can be shared by sharing toothbrushes, cups, dishes, etc. This video reviews how to diagnose and test for H Pylori and reviews H Pylori treatment options- natural treatment options, home remedies, and antibiotic protocols are covered. Many alternative treatments can be successful for h pylori infection including zinc carnosine, dgl, mastic gum, and more.
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My worst symptoms were daily FEELING OF DOOM, very high heart rate and BP, heart palpitations to the point of going to the ER for the first time in 20 years. Extreme anxiety as I felt like I was dying for countless hours a day for months. Extreme stomach pain. ER couldnt find anything and blew me off in 45 minutes ($8,000) even though my heart rate at rest was 130 at the time. Finally my GP suggested the test and it was positive. Been on the triple regiment for 6 days out of 12, and all my symptoms are either gone or 100% better. Hope that helps anyone with the hert problems and constant feeling of doom, cause that was the worst, scariest, and almost deadly part of mine.
Thank you so much for sharing your story. I'm so glad you are feeling better.
The brain fog
@TeamVazquez23 yes! I have always had the hobby of learning new stuff and deep conversations. For the past 6 months I felt like I had lost my edge. It was so bad I thought maybe it's early signs of dementia or Alzheimers. The past couple weeks everyone has been saying how big the change has been back to the old me. It's crazy the link between digestive/intestinal health and everything else.
It’s quiet scary I have been trying to eradicate my h pylori with broccoli sprouts for the first 2 weeks after my diagnosis I ate raw broccoli heads and then I started on a garlic and cabbage juice for about week I was really nauseous then it went away I have cleaned up my eating for the most part the beginning the anxiety was really bad I lost weight couldn’t sleep without being like scared and then I’d always wake up in the middle of the night and still it’s like that some nights but I have recently started broccoli sprouts first thing empty stomach after doing a week of celery juice
Right now I’m just dealing with brain fog and yes I agree it’s like you feel like you can concentrate or enjoy anything cause you tryna stay balanced and not “forgetful”
I’m so glad I found your channel ! You’re so knowledgeable, and u have such a kind way about you Dr Shelley!
Thanks so much!
I'm so glad I found your channel thanks.
I'm so glad you're here Thanks for watching!
I'm wondering if we need to cut back on eating
Thanks for this list of supplements. Really helpful info.
Is a false negative possible with a stool test for H Pylori?
I have seen a standard lab stool test be negative for H Pylori yet positive on the GI MAP.
I definitely am interested in your webinare. I have had stomach colon issues for 3 years. It is keeping me at home and miserable
Hi, I don't currently have a webinar but I have a gut health course and a SIBO e book linked in the description of my videos.
Hi doctor, i have such horrible symptoms, the worst of which is swallowing problems which forced be to go on a fully liquid diet. I had a gastroscopy with biopsies done today and came back positive for h.pylori. Hopefully with my medication I'll recover and be able to eat, i miss food so much :(
Thank you for the video!!
I hope the treatment helps you!
I have H ploric. I like you regiment m. I am taking antibiotics now. Can I mix the blend you recommend along with whst the doctor prescribed for me
It's best to talk with your doctor for your unique medical needs but in general it is usually safe to take them together.
Hi Dr Meyer. Hope all is well. I love this video. I was tested positive for HP. I’ve gone GF and DF for 2 months and don’t feel any relief or different. Anxiety is my major symptom but I also have Hashimotos and a low thyroid. My dietician is working on reducing the Hpylori right now. What are your thoughts on plain Greek yogurt for the probiotics and dark chocolate for HP? Would love to hear what you think.
Plain Greek yogurt could be helpful though sometimes the dairy can trigger bloating or acid reflux in some. Dark chocolate could trigger acid also. But you can try them out and see if they cause symptoms. You may coexisting sibo so check that out if your symptoms persist, I have lots of videos on SIBO here.
@@DrShelleyMeyer thanks for your feedback! I have eliminated Greek yogurt for 3 months and no change when I did. I don’t have bloating or acid reflux, so I can’t imagine the yogurt or chocolate bothering me. Thanks again for your help. Take care. ♥️
I’m so happy I found your channel!!! I have started approaching Menopause from a natural and Holistic approach. I don’t drink coffee , but I do drink caffeine to stay awake. I’m also, eating more fruits and veggies. Drinking Dandelion micronutrient powder in my water with “Redmonds real salt” and Lemon blended together!!! This sleep disturbance is horrible!!! I did suffer from H Pylori in the past!!!
Definitely check out my perimenopause and menopause videos. The perimenopause stage 2 recommendations apply to menopause too. Glad you are doing such nourishing things for your body!
I’m so happy to find you on here and you offer a conventional approach as well as Holistic approach and you know so much about Nutrition as well!!! You are a rare gem
Dr Shelly, did you know I just found out by doing research by Dr. Bryan Ardis that Nicotine is NOT addictive… the most craziest thing is if you google it you will see that egg Plant , white Potatoes, Zucchini, and bell peppers 🫑 all Contain NICOTINE!!! They don’t tell us the truth!!!
I can’t take anything with aspirin NSAIDs or sulfa type meds.
Manuka Honey, how do you use it for this
Some studies have shown taking 1 to 2 tsp per day can be helpful but usually it's best to combine it with other treatments like dgl, zinc carnosine.
I have been diagnosed with barret s oesophagus. I have to take ppi s. It caused SIBO. Terrible stomach cramps but I feel much better after taking Mastic gum.
Yes ppi's can be pretty rough sometimes. I'm so glad the mastic gum is helping!
My mother has been diagnosed with H Pylori and the cognitive issues have messed her up pretty bad as if she has Dementia. The doctor has actually diagnosed her with mild dementia before I got her results for the H Pylori. She is only 54 she also lost a lot of weight and had loss of appetite, fast heart rate, panic attacks, and anxiety, depression and abdominal pains. We have ruled out cancer and she is on her antibiotics but I’m still concerned for her. She can’t work or drive because of the issues with her brain. When she gets rid of the infection will her brain and cognitive function go back to normal??
I have autoimmune issues and hair loss. My H pylori on the GI MAP is detected but it's not overgrowing. Also my ferritin is 8. Do you still treat it even if it's not overgrowing?
Not necessarily as it might be asymptomatic and these symptoms could be due to something else.
Hello Dr can I plz get help from you??
I'm not able to offer individualized care over RUclips but I hope the info in the videos can be helpful to you.
I am getting a blood test for it tomorrow, I take Pariet 20mg/Mucosta and Mosapride , all symptoms are going for an ulcer but I was afraid that the test will be a false negative due to Pariet so I wanted to ask you if the blood test will be accurate? I had severe pain six weeks ago, the pain is now almost gone, my problem is that I have loss of appetite, foul gas and nausea sometimes appear and it is the worst feeling in the world.
I also heard that ulcers do not heal if H Pylori is left untreated. This is like torture to me honestly but I am hopeful.
Hi- we don't have Pariet in the U.S. but it looks like it is a proton pump inhibitor so this could make the blood test inaccurate. Also, breath or stool tests are more accurate in general than blood tests.
Hi Dr. Shelly. I have been diagnosed with H pylori more than a month back. The endoscopy report said, erythematous erosions on body and antrum of the stomach. I am currently on medication. I didn't have any symptoms other than occasional diarrhea and some noticeable weight loss. I am also worried about erythematous erosions growing into something serious. How likely is it?
Erosions can worsen and lead to (or already be) ulcers and gastritis.
I wish I could take amprozale styles doctor here they didn’t know I had h pilots feeling lump in my thirst end up having reflux
Sorry you are having that experience.
There’s something like stack within my throat like mucus and headache I don’t know how
Not sure but hopefully the info on the videos can provide some help.
I had a bleeding ulcer. It was awful. Lost quite a bit of blood due to this bacteria. Ended up on antibiotic therapy plus an acid reducer. I’ve followed that up with mastic gum, garlic, and probiotics. I also removed dairy and gluten from my diet. I may add in broccoli sprouts for good measure.
I hope you are healing, sounds like you have done some good things to support healing.
R u ok now?
PLS which of the probiotic is good to use for h. Pylori? Thanks
glad to come across your video and i see it is 2 years old. hidden symptoms of h pylori. I have typed out a book and my last entry was was chapter 12 when i saw the infectious disease doctor at internal medicine. I seriously have a hard time even speaking about my experience over the past 4 years of stomach issues and rosacea and eye infections and bugs up my nose and feeling like i need to touch my face and a black tongue and burning mouth and copd and full on body rash. ive gone through 3 rounds of antibotics and and ant acids and 2 two colonoscopies and two endoscopies. i have a hiatal hernia and twice had polups removed which were not cancerous. Ive tested positive 3 times for h pylori in my stool and tested negative for two biopsies in my stomach linings. I asked the infection disease doctor if it was possible that i had h pylori in my gum cavities or in my plaque? She said NO! That is not where H Pylori lives. I asked her if I dont have H pylori in my gut lining where is it? She told me that my mouth issues are most likely to do with smoking and did not look in my mouth and told me to quit smoking and said in 3 weeks to have a h Pylori breath test. Feel like im back to do I even have this bacteria? I have been a smoker for most of my life and i like to sip on red wine to get that out of the way. Im currently on day four of not smoking to confirm the black tongue is from smoking or something else. I have read some research about H Pylori in the dental cavities only because as much as i have stomach issues i have black tongue and sore roof of mouth. And did go to dentist for a teeth cleaning. Any time i mention the the stuff i read on H Pylori in the dental cavities i am immediately shut down. I have seen internal medicine prior for the bugs up my nose and wanting to touch my face and told i depleated my b12 and then ENT said that sensation was an my body producing histamine and alergic reaction and alergist saying i failed lung function test by not representing like someone with copd and by the way i dont have an issue breathing and not allergic to anything they tested me for. I am laboured with breathing sometimes in the morning untill i can burp up until i get relief. Had lung xray twice and all clear. Last ENT said burning mouth blah blah blah and did not look in my mouth and said he did not know anything about H Pylori and to quit smoking and saw dentist who referred me to oral pathologist who said she did not know anything about H Pylori and to quit smoking. Was given a fungal rinse and then meds to disolve on tongue and spit out which did not help. I have had issues for 4 years as far as my stomach goes and burning mouth for past 7 months. I am steadfast in not smoking cause im all about taking responsibility for my smoking actions. Not sure about your posting this video and if you actually want to document content thats posted. I hope you do. And just to comment on the last post. I as well have feelings of doom for no reason.
Wow, that is a rough journey. It can be difficult to deal with conventional medicine as the structure is so segmented. Thanks for sharing your story and hopefully the info in this video and my more recent h pylori video can be helpful.
About a year after abdominal surgeries for multiple hernias, I started having symptoms of pressure, discomfort, and burping. Bending and lifting would make my digestive system seem to "stop". I was diagnosed with h.pylori via breath test and was given 2 antibiotic regimen plus ppi (which I was hesitant to take but was told that the 60-day use would not cause long-term damage). After the 4th day, all my symptoms cleared, and I felt better than I had for months. Unfortunately, my symptoms returned within 2 weeks after completion. My surgeon then referred to GI specialist and retested for h.pylori and subsequently treated with triple antibiotic, pppi,and bismuth. I felt HORRIBLE after completion of treatment and was told I had IBS, even though my symptoms didn't fit and lowFODMAP diet didn't seem to help. Fast-forward 3 months, I again tested positive for h.pylori and was put on different triple combination. However, still felt horrible. Bloating, burping, extreme fatgue, etc. Referred to new GI doc who did endoscopy. Diagnosed with gastroparesis.😝
Fast forward a year to present: THANK YOU, Dr. Meyers for giving me a new lease on life! Through your videos, I have been able to determine that I have Methane SIBO. Probably developed after multiple antibiotic treatments and due to gastroparesis. I have been taking antimicrobial/antibiotic herbs suggested and a pro motility supplement. I am starting to feel SO much better and actually have some energy! So, again, Thank You!
I am so happy to hear this, it brought tears to my eyes. I am so glad you are feeling better. Thank you for sharing your story!
Hi, what specific medication helped you to feel better and get energy?
have had it since 2013 won't go away
I've tested positive for h pylori 4 times over the last 10 yrs. My symptoms are always really bad. Super tired, extreme weight loss, malnutrition, burning stomach pain. I have to go back to the doctor because I think it's back. Only different symptom I'm having is now all my lympnodes are swollen and my ear always hurts. My immune system is very weak since this has all happened. I also have had pneumonia twice in between having the h pylori. I didn't know you could get lymphoma. Def very concerning that I can't seem to get rid of these infections.
@GeeBee7171 what antimicrobial/antibiotic herbs and pro motility supplements worked for you and are you still finding success with them?
I did endoscopy and results came out w heitus hernia, positive h pylori, acid reflux grade a.
Will update here been taking 14kg ya antibiotics and eating good nutritious meals.
After a month gonna take care or do a surgery for my hernia.
Best of luck with your healing and surgery!
I have done triple & quadruple treatment and it has come back 5 times.Im trying mastic gum & Berberine Hope it works?? Thank you for your time
I hope that works too. I also like s boullardi and zinc carnosine to complement your current choices.
Hi Shelley, I have been consuming DGL and Milk Kefir (probiotic) for about 2 weeks, would it be still accurate if I want to do a H Pylori Stool Antigen test? Because I still have the problems: bloating, stomach fullness, reflux (this one is reducing actually)
We know that the proton pump inhibitors can cause a false negative but I have not seen any research that DGL or probiotics can cause a false negative on the stool tests. Hope that helps!
@@DrShelleyMeyer I already tested by H Pylori Stool Antigen, and the result is negative. If I still have the symptoms, do you think I should go for another H Pylori test, such as Urea Breath Test?
@@serendipity_project Yes, because you can have the bacteria in the upper part which goes undetected in the stool.
Hi doc i am struggling with h pylori
I'm sorry, it can be rough and difficult to treat. I have a few videos on it and then supporting videos on gut health so hopefully that info is helpful to your healing.
I was diagnosed with h pilori and currently on medication. But have a persistent cough especially when I want to speak
Reflux can cause cough and can be associated with h pylori.
Hi Dr. I’m struggling with HP I have done triple therapy and it didn’t kill it. I have very bad symptoms I can’t or drink much if I do I vomit 🤮. I have try natural remedies as Oregano oil , garlic extract , I got now some Mastic gum but I still vomiting and I can’t eat much. At night I feel very bad movements in my gut and pressure like contractions, acid I need to kill this some help
I'm sorry this has been so difficult. I don't know if anything in the videos can be individualized enough for what you are going through and I'm not able to provide individual medical treatment via RUclips but here's a playlist that has some other info on h pylori that may be helpful.ruclips.net/p/PLM0J0xhlNyv64lF70PxANBlO3KEKiRIe2&si=Vip_HyA8qvuH7FVH
I have HP have completed my second round of the antibiotics test again on the 28 to see if it is gone but I know it isn’t
I hope it is gone.
Just started treatment. My symptoms included going to the bathroom immediately after eating and chronic diarrhea. Eating now feels very strange because I actually feel full and my brain says to go but I have no bm. Is weight loss a symptom of the medicine working?
I have not seen weight loss in my patients when I treat them for h pylori.
I got h-pylori 13 yrs ago and I have been living with it. It has been a nightmare that I can’t seem to wake up from.
I first was diagnosed and treated with triple antibiotic 13 yrs ago and was told they have cleared it. My stool and blood test showed negative but I continued to have so many different symptoms. I thought maybe I have some other bugs inside me that are undetected and I learn to live with it. Mainly with clean home prepared food veggies and fish with occasional meat and wine. I would break out time to time. Different symptoms. Major headache that sent me to ER when I ate grapefruit and breast pain if I ate orange. I eliminated those and I didn’t have pain. Fast forward to now I suffered from ulcer symptoms. I was eating out a lot and had too many carbs, cheese and meat for the past few months and I began to get sick. At this point I am so exhausted trying to get dr help with no help.
I am looking to see if it’s possible to get rid of this bug 🐛 other ways.
Currently I have eliminated bread, dairy, meat and some sugary fruits., alcohol. Focusing on eating cabbage, broccoli, carrots etc. ulcer symptoms are reduced.’ But not gone. I eat oatmeal in the morning i really don’t want to stop that..otherwise am only left to eat cabbage and broccoli. 😢
Trying to find perfect regimen with out taking cocktail of drugs and herbs.
I feel for everyone who is dealing with this.. it’s a nightmare.
God speed for all of us who is suffering.
I wish you continued healing!
@@DrShelleyMeyer thanks.
How are you doing these days?
That is so horrible 😢 I hope the antibiotics don't make ot worse. I'm starting mine tomorrow
Have you tried the Specific Carbohydrate Diet?
is it normal to experience burning after urination with h pylori and also I get a lot of pain when taking probiotics and antibiotics and the burning increases too?
The burning with urination isn't typical. The increased pain with probiotics could indicate SIBO. I have a lot of videos on this and a very helpful ebook in this so check those out (ebook link is found in the descriptions and in my website, drshelleymeyer.com). Hopefully this is helpful to you
@@DrShelleyMeyer I was diagnosed with h pylori by endoscopy. I wasn’t sure if that’s my only complication. I’ll check out the ebook and videos
I have hives that started 5 months ago. A week ago I developed cellulitis. Went to hospital and since then hives are getting better. I think the antibiotics are helping. I’m taking Pepsid as well. I’m thinking possibly hpilori is the cause. Not for sure but a thought. Antibiotics are for 14 days but not sure it would be enough to totally get rid of hpilori.
It's hard to know if those symptoms are h pylori driven but I hope you feel better soon.
I had no acid reflux nor heartburn and was still diagnosed from blood n breath test.. it has to be related to gluten
What?
Finished the medical 3-pill for 14 days from my Gastroenterologist, for HPylori. She did not offer any options after performing an endoscopy with biopsies. So I also was diagnosed with a hiatal hernia. My follow up visit with her is not until May 4th. I’m extremely concerned that this bacteria will return in that amount of time. Also concerned because My mother had bleeding ulcers and they removed her stomach in two separate operations about 20 years apart.
Typically the strong Rx med combo will kill the h pylori and keep it at bay for an extended period of time and forever in some people.
@@DrShelleyMeyer Thsnk you so much for the reassurance. My Mom had two major surgeries and had no stomach because of “bleeding ulcers”. That was back in 1968 and 1980…with many reconstructive surgeries. She was a really strong woman who lived to be 77.
Happy Mother’s Day, Dr Shelly! ❤️
How are you doing ???
Hi doc, i was tested positive for h pylori, and i have undergone 2 weeks of antibiotics . I am now on antacids and I don’t know whether the bacteria is gone but my tummy still burns if don’t take antacids, tired of medicines pl help🙏🏼.
I’ve avoided spices from my diet. Kindly recommend diet plan 🙏🏼
Thank you
Hi, though I can't give individual medical advice here I do talk about diet in my gut health videos and h pylori videos. ruclips.net/p/PLM0J0xhlNyv64lF70PxANBlO3KEKiRIe2&si=Vip_HyA8qvuH7FVH
In general you want to eat a microbiome supportive diet of 5 to 7 servings of brightly colored fruits and veggies, avoid sugar, eat 30 grams of fiber, avoid spicy foods or known triggers for you (sometimes coffee and acid food like tomato sauces can be a trigger but not always), and limit dairy and alcohol. But there is more detail in my videos on gut health.
Does it have link with ear
I have h pylori by stomach biopsy test
I have ear block and clicking sound and full head feeling
Ear block will become worse when i bloat
So i went to ent doc they said ear is completely fine
While i asked my gut doc he said upper endosopy show it not affected ears
I have not seen it affect the ear in any of my patients.
How do I convince my dr. to test me? All he does is tell me to keep taking ppi for the last 6 months
The ppi don't work.
I'm sorry I wish he would test you. Maybe if you share with him how you are not improving with the ppu and how ppi's can deplete your vitamins. Or find a doctor who will work with you
My wife and I have struggled with H Pylori for a spell of 10 years, we getting frustrated with the treatments, please help
Hi, I'm sorry you are both struggling with h pylori. The videos are all made to help so I hope that they do. I'm not able to provide individual medical advice via social media as every person is unique so if these things that I discuss on the videos that have helped my patients don't seem right for you please work with your provider to find a plan that helps. Here is a playlist of all of my h pylori videos ruclips.net/p/PLM0J0xhlNyv64lF70PxANBlO3KEKiRIe2&si=Vip_HyA8qvuH7FVH
Hey I had h pylori last year April. Wondering anybody can help me of my symptoms. I treated my h pylori felt better in September. But keep on having this pressure that goes up my left side chest and my left throat get hard. It’s the same symptoms. Now I don’t have no more bacteria. But the symptoms are still present be having them for now 5 month.
If possible I think it would be good to have someone look at your microbiome and also an endoscopy to see if you have any issues with your stomach or esophageal lining.
Thx not sure if you know about LPR or called silent reflux. Almost same symptoms that I been having issues. My throat feel like a sore throat the doctor says don’t have anything lol at the point just gonna I to put my foot down to a ENT specialist. Not sure why doesn’t go away just a discomfort feel. Has my right chest get really tight for no reason. But been hearing about silent reflux and SIBO not saying I have this. Been hearing more people having similar symptoms like me.
I complained for months and months about random symptoms. The feeling of anxiety in my gut I thought was psychological. I happened to see a substitute Doctor because mine was away. The first thing they said was H Pylori. Sure enough I was positive. I had all the symptoms even some rare ones. I have a history of peptic ulcer too. I can tell you that I have switched Doctors. I am being treated now with the whole antibiotic course which matched this video. I started feeling better the very first day.
I'm so glad you are feeling better!
My doctor did an endoscopy and a couple of biopsies before confirming that I had h pylori He prescribed antibiotics that made me extremely sick a few weeks later. 😢 .
I'm so sorry. I couldn't tolerate the antibiotics either but I did well with the natural treatments.
I have every gerd and h pylori symptoms including cognitive issues, fatigue, the feeling of having a fever and when i do some physical activity i gas out quickly(even tho i used to run 3km a day before), mood swings and the worse part is that my mother doesn't even take it seriously. My doctor literally put me to xray machine with this symptoms like what?
I'm so sorry. I hope the info here can help.
I have those
How can I work with you? I need your help.
Hi, my practice is based in Denver Colorado and is highlandshealthwellness.com. The trust your gut is an overall gut health program and can be found in udemy.com or via the link in the video description.
Hi mam before month i have h pylori 3 weak i take antibiotic and my medicine finish after 8 days i test my stool and result nagetive mam now Aging i do test plz mam tell me
Sorry I don't understand the question. It's good to have a negative stool test for h pylori so if your symptoms are better and your stool test is negative I don't see why you would need to test again.
Hi,doctor,my 17 year old son diagnosed h.pilory in stool test ,what should we do?he took tripple theropy or should endoskopy then treated?
Plz help
Sorry without knowing your son I can't say exactly. Some of the natural treatment can work as well as the triple therapy. It's worth trying a treatment regimen before having to go through an endoscopy but if there are doubts or other concerning symptoms then the endoscopy may be the way to go.
@@DrShelleyMeyer thanx doc for reply,his symptoms are only.....burping,stomach acidity,feeling wekness and dizziness,loos weigh...anxity
@DrShelleyMeyer But he feel never stomach pain,bloting,vomiting, loose of appetite, sleeping issues..etc
@DrShelleyMeyer i want to say that stool test for h.pilory is authentic or necessary to do endoscopy?
Plz plz. Reply my all queries.
Prayers for your son. Get a gi map from a natural path.
Someone said something about apple cider vinegar (with the mother) and baking soda with with blackstrap molasses have you heard anything about that??
Diluted acv can help when there is low stomach acid (see my video on that) which can coexist with h pylori, surprisingly. But I have not used molasses.
@@DrShelleyMeyer I tried it and it burned me pretty bad, going for endoscopy tomorrow pray for me
Hi Dr Meyer - I tested positive a few years back but got rid of H Py with diet and natural treatment such as berberine etc etc etc and so I tested negative after this care. So now a couple years later and I OCCASIONALLY have different abdominal pains but I still eat a lot of the same healing foods as part of my standard healthy diet. It got me to the doc just to check and it was technically still negative but it made me think that there may be some either small remnants not detected or residual other effects or of course something completely different. At any rate, though it is only OCCASIONAL pains, Im the type that eats healthy and wants to REALLY know they are healthy. Not just be symptom free but yet subtlly sick inside unknowingly. Are there more telling tests and protocols to not only treat but to prevent and optimize any old residual conditions that may still lead to disease many years down the road? Thanks!
Hi! There are many ways to be proactive but if you are speaking specifically to H Pylori I would recommend doing a microbiome test like the GI MAP and checking out my videos for recommendations that fit your results.
Unfortunately i can’t find a functional doctor near me my worse symptoms are anxiety shortness of breath chest pains anxiety being the worse
I'm sorry you are feeling so bad. I hope the info in the video and other related videos can be helpful until you are able to find a provider.
Me toooo
Me too shortness of breath fatigue and chest tightness along with chest burn
What should l eat??
I can relate my anxiety is really bad drives my family insane googling doesn’t help
Hello Dr,
I was diagnosed with h pylori through endoscopy/biopsy. The blood, breath, and stool didn't detect anything. I was treated with pylara which was a 10 day regimen that my dr at the time said it was new and highly effective. I took the 10 day regimen then two days after the pain came right back. I told him and prescribed me the same antibotic instead of giving me another regimen and told me that I probably didn't take it right, which is strange because I followed the instructions exactly how it was prescribed. I took it again snd same thing the pain came back in 2 days. I told the dr again and he told me that he is not going to give me a different antibotic until I get another endoscopy. The first endoscopy caused me to barley walk for a month with pain under my left rib cage so bad until I couldn't work for a while. I was prescribed just ppis and refused the endoscopy and went to another dr. The dr couldn't fine anything with the stool and breath but did on a regular blood test. He said it's nothing he can do, go to an GI. I went to so many gi drs and did so many tests and nothing. Then later in 2017 I got a colonoscopy done and a 3rd endoscopy and nothing. The 2nd one I had showed Canadida(yeast) but I was just giving Diflucan for QOD for 2 weeks. I felt a little better but he was told I had to another one to see if the yeast was gone. That's when I left and went to another dr because I felt what he was doing was causing more damage because the pain gets worse from each endoscopy. Over the years I had antibotics for other slight infections but saw that it worked a little on my stomach. But each time I go to the dr and get tests done, everything is negative. There was even an antibotic that only is administered IV I was giving when I had an a kidney stone and kidney infection on the same side and was admitted. Before I left that first dr that did the two endoscopy and two failed hyplori treatment attempts was my dr at the time I was admitted. I told him that what ever antibotic they were giving me for the kidney infection is helping with my stomach. I told him I feel relief from it. He then told me before I could be prescribed that he first have to do another endoscopy. I was desperate at the time because I wanted to get better because i have constraint pain that doesn't go away. My insurance denied the endoscopy at the hospital and he told me it was nothing else he could do to help me. I then was released because the hospital said my insurance is only covering for 3 days of care in the hospital. This was back in 2016. Then 2017 was when I got my last endoscopy done with a colonoscopy. I later did research and found that ppis could cause inaccurate readings and was told I had to be off then for a couple months. I cant go a day without an ppi because the acid got so bad after the years. I tried so many kinds of natural remedies and still not getting any help. The dr now sounds like he is getting a little tired because tests are coming back negative and trying to lean toward it as being something that's all in my head. It's 2023 and I've been dealing with this since 2012 and I'm so fed up until I just want to give up. I was 21 at the time. Now I'm 33 and wanting to throw in a towel because I'm not getting any answers from anyone. I am as of right now undiagnosed because all the tests are coming back negative. I dont know what to do. I don't know what to tell my dr. But I'm about ready to give up
I'm so sorry you have suffered for so long. If you are able to it would be good to find an integrative or functional medicine doctor and/or a PCP or gi doc that will at least do a sibo test and a microbiome test so they can look at the complete picture because this could be h pylori layered on other imbalance.
I’m in the same situation as you. This is horrible! My tests keep coming back negative. I heard Candida can hide the H Ployri from showing up in tests. You should make sure just in case. Also try H Ployri pills that have Mastic Gum. You need to heal your gut, it’s been through a lot of damage. I’m praying for us to get healed! 🤍
the swedish bitters I saw contained alcohol and I dont want to use it because of that,I have H pylori and I read conflicting info.some info says that alcohol inhibits h ppylori others say that it aggravates it so I'm scared of using bitters with alcohol
Try flora non alcohol bitters
@@rafaelthemotivator thank you
Can it cause anxiety and heavy head ? I’ ve seen a psychologist for 4 years but nothing changes and I have some symptoms of HP.. but is there a link with anxiety and heavy head - tension headaches?
Yes!
@@Maya38438 did you have these symptoms? And, if so, how did you heal from H. Pylori?
@@sofiafantin5280 I have anxiety and h pylori. Not cured yet!
@@Maya38438 which test did you get ?
@@sofiafantin5280 in my case only endoscopy showed that I have h pylori. Both breath and stool test failed to show. Also blood test didn’t show.
Been diagnosed with GERD and H. Pylori for a year now. I have been taking pento 20 mg once a day in the morning for a year and just started my H. Pylori treatment today. I tried different herbal supplements and remedies during that year but I was pushed to taking the treatment nevertheless before we do the testing since I'm still dealing with symptoms. Don't know what to expect but to be honest I'm willing to try anything that could get me to get rid of this once and for all. I'm only 29 and don't want to be taking pills every single day and be restricted to a GERD diet.
I hope the treatment helped! The standard treatment is a lot of strong antibiotics so I recommend taking a probiotic for the next couple months. See my probiotic and gut health videos on recommendations on how to choose a good one.
I used mastic gum for over a month, in addition to garlic, broccoli sprouts, cabbage juice, a 1.5 week of oregano but I still have it. 😢
Yes it's a tricky big to treat, hopefully the other ideas I'm this video can help.
How are you now ??
Does H pylore associate with psoriasiss and bad breath... Plss i need urgent help! 🙏
Any kind of gut bacterial imbalance can cause issues like psoriasis or bad breath, so yes it's very possible it's causing your symptoms. I have lots of other videos on gut health and balancing and I hope tbose can be helpful to you.
I've just had a follow up test after triple treatment which has failed I'm now told to do the quadruple treatment. I'm not a poster child for hpylori, I gained weight, had nose drips, highs on my right ribcage and at the base of my skull. Feeling full after 6 drops of water. The treatment was brutal. Do I have to take PPI's? Doesn't make sense, can i use NAC for a week before quadruple therapy? 6:55
Though I can't give tailored medical advice here it may be worth trying to do 2 of the natural options or blends. Successful options in my practice have been blends like pylori-x, gi revive, or Pylori Plex. Herbs like mastic gum, dgl and nutrients like cranberry and zinc carnosine can be effective in killing h pylori, along with sacc. Boullardi.
@@DrShelleyMeyerUpdate: Firstly, thank you for your reply. I took the Saccomycides Boulardi, Spore Probiotics, B1, D3 with K, Mastic gum powder with Aloe Vera, Glutamine and Zinc and Pectin. I was symptom free a week ago and I drink a teaspoon of vinegar in a glass of water before eating 3 days a day and I FEEL DAMN GOOD! edited to say I also used Slippery Elm, which I think was a gamechanger.
@@amethystfeathers7324 Hi! How long did it take for you to feel better after starting with the natural supplements?
How many months it took erosive gastritis to cure after h plyrio eradicate?
That's hard to answer without knowing the whole picture, it can vary from a few weeks to a few months.
What tests can you take after you've been diagnosed with H Pylori to determine if you are more likely to get cancer?
There is not a specific test for that but the GI MAP can tell you if you still have h pylori and if you have one of the strains that can cause cancer. This test is available in my lab shop if you would like to check it out. labs.rupahealth.com/store/storefront_6G8ar7P
It caused my pulsatile tinnitus. I suffered for years and ENTs were clueless.
And it got better when you treated the h Pylori? I haven't seen it personally cause tinnitus but it seems others have experienced this too.
@@DrShelleyMeyer Yes, none of my doctors ever heard of it either. But H Pylori affects the middle ear. You have no idea how much better my quality of life is. The pulsatile tinnitus is absolutely maddening. There were many times I wish I would just not wake up.
I was encouraged to get tested for H. Pylori and have set up an appointment. In the meantime I started taking mastic gum (solaray brand) and I noticed cognitive improvement and more energy overall at 500mg per dose. 1000mg made me feel like I was battling a flu. What does this mean? I got food poisoning in 2016 - I already had poor gut health, but it really shut down after that. Is it normal for mastic gum to help with gut related cognitive problems/physical energy?
I have not seen mastic gum have cognitive benefits before, that's interesting. It might be because of the microbiome brain link.
There is a connection between gut and brain health, so the correlation does make sense. Improve the gut, improve the brain.
Food poisoning can lead to SIBO according to Dr. Pimentel. Mastic also helped me cognitively and my fatigue
I have been taking mastic gum for about a week but had to cut back the dose because it gave me severe headache. However, my brain fog is gone and I feel it is also helping my breathing. The stuff is strong but effective, take it nice and slow I believe.
I was put on triple therapy and only lasted three days from terrible side effects so now I'm trying mystic gum, manuka honey, probiotics and matula tea
I hope this helps you!
The same thing happened to me, with triple antibiotic therapy and I plan to start with mastic gum, does mastic gum give you side effects? how much manuka honey should i take?
@@magalynigro3045 if you use manuka honey make sure it 25 plus and that once or twice a day a teaspoon just play around with it to see if u tolerate it I did fine but I only did it once mystic gum can come with side effects upset stomach, diarrhea or gas so start a low dose see how u respond to it mutila tea I ordered from south Africa and its two cups a day once before breakfast and about an hour after dinner but u should do just fine
@@laurainfinity1390 how are you now.i want to order the tea but how do I get it?
@@auntyp2980 I still have stomach issue possibly from the h pylori but I'm doing better it may take awhile to get back to myself since this bacteria wrecked havoc on me
I tried natural at first for 2 months and my count increased by double and brought out virulent factors so I did the antibiotics and doing some natural again as it seems very stubborn.
Yes it can be very stubborn and sometimes multiple approaches are needed. Thanks so much for sharing and watching!
what type of test did you use to get an actual count of hp
Lissa How are you now?
@@DrShelleyMeyer hi, what do you mean by “multiple approaches”, could we combine between antibiotics and naturals?
Can it cause dizziness,breathing prblms,sweating???
Yes, to the dizziness and lightheadedness (that is a major symptom for me, currently). I have had the worst brain fog, loss of focus and concentration. It's been tough. Currently, I'm on the 14 days of antibiotics. I do know your concern and how you feel with the dizziness. I went to the ER thinking it was my heart due to palpitations and lightheadedness! Feel better soon, friend!
It's possible but not one of the more common symptoms.
I am interested in this course
Please see the video description and my other reply, hope it is helpful.
Can it cause a feces body odor smell
for me, yes... worst smell from armpits
Yes, it can but many microbiome imbalances can, so it can be difficult to know if that is the cause without testing.
Ok thanks
It’s been 7 months I am dealing with h pylori infection. 2023 July, I fell very sick, nausea, palpitations, chest pain were all the symptoms. I was hospitalised. All the blood reports came normal. The breath test was positive. When I started the 7 days antibiotics course, I felt so much better. I even had blurred vision and even that got completely improved. But unfortunately from the 8th day symptoms returned. My gastroenterologist suggested to do endoscopy and it showed some inflammation but biopsy was for h pylori came negative.
I was just on pantoprazole but then in oct my symptoms worsen. I started having diarrhoea. I lost lot of weight. We did the breath test again and it came positive. Then again the gastroenterologist suggested to the endoscopy and colonoscopy. Again everything came normal. Biopsy was again negative. Only probiotics help me with nausea and burning. I can eat very little when I take probiotics. Blurred vision is back again since last month.
I went to see another gastroenterologist this month and he suggested to do the 14 days antibiotic course. I am on antibiotics now but don’t see much difference. I don’t know what’s going on with me. Any help or suggestion would be great.
I'm so sorry, that is rough. I do have a ton of suggestions in my gut health videos so I recommend diving into the gut health playlist and the SIBO videos. The antibiotics and acid blocking treatments can create further problems of gut microbiome imbalance and I talk a lot about that in these related videos.
Head to Mexico and see a GI Dr. there. They are super thorough, do proper testing asap and get you the right meds the first time. It seems here in the US most GI Drs take wild guesses and don’t test thoroughly.
How you feeling now?
Does it end to end Parkinson’s or alzimer
I have not seen that connection in the research.
Hi Dr.Shelly...in the recent past, I have suffured a lot of acid reflux...so bad that it even triggered tinnitus...I haven't got checked myself of any H.pylori infection but I think I certainly got affected by the bacteria because of my lifestyle habits and some of the obviously symptoms...like severe lethargy...depression combined with constipation and reflux...it was pretty pretty bad...
Anyway...Iam from INDIA...and what has helped me a lot is a traditional Indian super probiotic breakfast...that is the overnight fermented rice...along with green tea as you have mentioned and a herbal supplement known as 'Gingko Biloba'...
In southern part of India we have a saying that goes like "Peddala maata chaddannam moota"...which literally means that the wisdom and words of elderly people are as beneficial for you as that fermented rice dish 😊
Add warm water and milk to cooked rice, mix well, and leave aside.
When the rice milk mixture is lukewarm, add some Buttermilk, onion and Green Chillies. Mix well, cover and leave overnight.
The rice will be set in the fermented milk due to the Bacteria which are good for the digestive system.
Awesome! Thank you so much for sharing this.
No I have had H. pylori I guess for a while biopsy during a endoscopy couple of places and I also have DV diverticulitis have used two courses of antibiotics one cheap and the expensive one with the thousand dollar anabiotic quad therapy amoxicillin via expensive when they give aids patient and then the Pepto-Bismol or business in the home as a prep is all whenever that stuff is
But I still have it what is next
Sounds like you have had a lot of treatment. Hopefully the ideas in the videos can be helpful to you and your providers.
Hi mam
I was affected Aug -2023 I have done my test on Oct I took some medicines after that I have done poop test which is normal
Now again started feeling blurred vision , shoulder pain dizziness & High Bp
I'm so sorry, I hope the info here can help and that you start feeling better soon.
I was positive one year ago and my symptoms are not going away ... I main and tha most scariest symptom of mine is i feel like something is atuck in my throat and it's not going down ... And then i feel like i need to burp ... From past one year i am suffering with this pain ... Do anyone else have the same symptom like me ?? Please do let me know ... And please help me out to get rid of this ... I got the medications and after my results was negative ... NEED HELP !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Have you had an EGD/scope to make sure you don't have a constriction?
@@DrShelleyMeyer i didn't go for endoscopy because I don't have insurance card and here endoscopy is very expensive without insurance card that's why i am still suffering from this pain 😭 i hope one day i will be ok and will feel like a normal person like before ... i am on diet from last 3 months and also i reduced some weight but my throat symptoms are still there ... I don't feel better 😞 anyhow THANK YOU so much Dr. Shelly for your reply and for your time :) means alot to me :) stay blessed Dr ....
Yes, I have similar symptoms, I feel like a burp trapped in my throat or chest and sometimes like something is stuck right near the top of my throat. It’s awful
@@jiyarehan451how are you now
I’ve been struggling with HPylori I did antibiotics 2 time and it didn’t go away my dr said I have live with it. I started taking kefir and black seed, but the thing is my stomach is so bad that it keeps giving me chest pain and blood pressure. I keep getting my heart checked cause it feels like I’m having heart attack.
Is having pain like this in my chest normal? It starts from my stomach and then goes to my head. 🥺
That pain can still be the h pylori but I don't agree that you have to live with it. Kefir can make it worse if you have imbalanced bacteria in your gut. You can do a stool test or SIBO test to check this out (labs.rupahealth.com/store/storefront_6G8ar7P) AND/OR you can check out my other videos on these topics which might be helpful in figuring this out.
Had my mother in law pass away from not treating hp
Use honey, apple cider vinegar, probiotics, hcl, bile salts.
I'm so sorry for your loss.
Dayum bro sorry to hear that
I don t eat much like maybe 2 hard boil eggs and oatmeal a day. Can that change the length of when I need to do a bowel movement
Yes! You need veggies and diversity, aim for 30 grams of fiber and try tracking your fiber on a free app like MyFitnessPal.
@@DrShelleyMeyer ty
Hi, did you already test for h pylori?
chicken works good for my gut. skin on.
asparagus, white rice, watermelon, banana also good
I started using Colloidal silver to kill h. Pylori. On my my 4th day. I'm only taking one shot right now but I'm going to up it to 2 shots next week. I'm also using, mastic gum, Manuka, DGL. I was using Cabbage juice for my ulcer but it's starting to feel better so far. Hopefully I don't irritate it and heal it in the next couple of weeks. Takes about 2 months to clear the ulcer. I'm going to focus on my H.pylori and Sibo after.
Wishing you healing and a healthy gut!
@@DrShelleyMeyer thank you 🙏. Antibiotics are Dangerous. I'm a victim of a broken Medical system 😔😢
Hi, did you take Urea Breath Test (UBT) to identify h pylori? And may I know your what were you symptoms?
@@serendipity_project I took 2 different stool samples that were positive. My symptoms are the big one Ulcer, stomach pain, acid reflux, pain, feeling sick, bloating, Constipation. I was also diagnosed with sibo Methane ( Constipation). Antibiotics, painkillers and ppi's destroyed my stomach. I'm doing a little better now but I'm still fighting the Ulcer. Once I heal the ulcer I'm going after sibo. Be careful with antibiotics and ppi's.
@@serendipity_project are you good 👍
Can it cause chills and tremors?
I have not heard of that as a common symptom but it's possible.
Yes it does
@@ashmitasharma719 how r u now ??
A friend, in another state, would cry all night and sometimes struggle to talk on the phone. Finally, she was diagnosed with h pylori. Three months later after I had forgotten, I began having these bad stomach cramps. I went to my doctor and was told I had h pylori. Then, around 6 months later my friend got it again. I felt like I got it again but the breath test said I didn't. Did I miss how you get this? When I read Google, it attributed it to not washing your hands after using the bathroom and characteristics uncommon of me or my friend. Oh! Now, she has had a hoarseness for the last 3 months and her doctor continues to tell her it's reflux. I have had phlegm and I've been told it's reflux. Are we still going through h pylori?
It's possible, and other sources are sharing a toothbrush, kissing, etc, someone who may be carrying it. Sometimes it's hard to figure out where it's coming from but it can be tested for.
I picked up mine thru food and water while traveling.
@@Maya38438 Never thought about that! I probably did as well.
Can h pylori bake u bloat or causes schizophrenia
It can cause bloating but I haven't heard of an association with schizophrenia.
How's your progress been? I've been suspecting schizophrenia and gut health being linked especially in relation to parasites
I was treated with two anti biotic from gastro dr. After natural remedies didn’t work
Yes sometimes the antibiotics are needed.
The first time(2020) i got h.pylori, i did Amox, claro, and Omeprazole. But i also did Mastic gum and aloe vera juice mixed with unsweetened cranberry juice. This time in 2022-3 I'm doing 100 % natural. Mastic gum, l.reuteri, aloe vera, cranberry juice. Just got some zinc Carnosine, DGL and slippery elm
Awesome keep us posted on your progress!
Did it work? Get rid of the H pylori?
@@canadianseniorseh2679 Yes it worked came out negative on the first treatment.
@mbnjsc How long did you take the supplements for on your 2nd bout with HP? And were you still on the supplements when you confirmed you were negative or how many weeks did you discontinue them before getting retested?
@@mbnjsc how you did the mastic gum please.
I had h pylori last year am glad I do not have it anymore I did two rounds of antibiotics ,after d first round it still came out positive,I did use mastic gum,black seed oil ,that was when I felt my stomach was getting better after I tested it came back positive,I use probiotics,interface from klaires lab .a lot of green juices and psyllium fiber from Lou corona
Awesome to hear you got rid of it and those are all great ideas, thanks for watching!
I meant d second time after d mastic gum nd everything it came back negative
Hi, did you take Urea Breath Test (UBT) to identify h pylori? And my I know your what were you symptoms?
so was it the natural way that helped.you?
@@auntyp2980 yes it was. The mastic gum black seed oil and a good probiotics and fiber ofcourse to keep the bowels moving
I did one round of Pylera and it cleared it out but my stomach is still irritated possibly from the meds. Endoscopy and colonoscopy showed mild gastritis so I'm working on cleaning up my diet my diet. Adding more fiber, probiotics and prebiotics daily. My h pylori symptoms felt more neurological and body fatigue than typical stomach issues. I wouldn't wish this on anyone. Best of luck to all of you all.❤
H pylori can cause such a variety of symptoms and the neurologic symptoms often don't get talked about. I wish you the best in your healing.
How are you feeling now? I’m also experiencing the neurological symptoms
Why would H Pylori cause the fullness feeling and gas, I cant eat much, have lost 20 pounds n 4 months, because my stomach feels full already.🙄
I'm having the same problem not eating alot can that cause problems using the restroom. It seems like my body doesn t have enuff do do a bowel movement
Yes.. u may try enemas just to get things moveing.
@@marybell9358 can you please recommend some?
@@icediamonds11 I get the enemas at Walmart.. and take a stool softener and Senna laxative 2 keep everything moving.. also I've had 2 mush my food so it will digest easier.. breakfast this morning was a banana, honey, papaya, and some natural antibiotics, apple vinegar, tumeric, it was delicious. I'm getting creative.
@@marybell9358 please if you think of anything else that is also good to eat please let me know 🤗
I dear i m choking in my sleep which is so scary , i m hpylori positive habing antibuotics 12 a day 🤧
That's rough. I'm so sorry I hope you start feeling better soon.
Also can hide in the vaginal cavity. It can be transmitted by sexual activity too.
Thanks for your input!
Those suckers don't like watermelon lol.
Can h pylori cause dysphasia?
Yes I have seen it cause this.
@@DrShelleyMeyer okay cause that’s what I’m having right now and I’m on day 7 of treatment but still hasn’t changed , does it usually go away after treatment or does it take longer ? Also thank you for replying!
I have Parkinson's disease so didn't notice any symptoms uhm just another day. Now convincing the va that Parkinson's and jet fuel is another matter!😮
Yes the VA can be tricky to work with sometimes.
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Can u help a British family please Shelley.
Hi, hopefully the videos can be helpful for you. I try to make them so they can help anyone going through different gut or hormone imbalance symptoms.
losing weight
Did you mean you have lost weight die to h pylori?
glad to come across your video and i see it is 2 years old. hidden symptoms of h pylori. I have typed out a book and my last entry was was chapter 12 when i saw the infectious disease doctor at internal medicine. I seriously have a hard time even speaking about my experience over the past 4 years of stomach issues and rosacea and eye infections and bugs up my nose and feeling like i need to touch my face and a black tongue and burning mouth and copd and full on body rash. ive gone through 3 rounds of antibotics and and ant acids and 2 two colonoscopies and two endoscopies. i have a hiatal hernia and twice had polups removed which were not cancerous. Ive tested positive 3 times for h pylori in my stool and tested negative for two biopsies in my stomach linings. I asked the infection disease doctor if it was possible that i had h pylori in my gum cavities or in my plaque? She said NO! That is not where H Pylori lives. I asked her if I dont have H pylori in my gut lining where is it? She told me that my mouth issues are most likely to do with smoking and did not look in my mouth and told me to quit smoking and said in 3 weeks to have a h Pylori breath test. Feel like im back to do I even have this bacteria? I have been a smoker for most of my life and i like to sip on red wine to get that out of the way. Im currently on day four of not smoking to confirm the black tongue is from smoking or something else. I have read some research about H Pylori in the dental cavities only because as much as i have stomach issues i have black tongue and sore roof of mouth. And did go to dentist for a teeth cleaning. Any time i mention the the stuff i read on H Pylori in the dental cavities i am immediately shut down. I have seen internal medicine prior for the bugs up my nose and wanting to touch my face and told i depleated my b12 and then ENT said that sensation was an my body producing histamine and alergic reaction and alergist saying i failed lung function test by not representing like someone with copd and by the way i dont have an issue breathing and not allergic to anything they tested me for. I am laboured with breathing sometimes in the morning untill i can burp up until i get relief. Had lung xray twice and all clear. Last ENT said burning mouth blah blah blah and did not look in my mouth and said he did not know anything about H Pylori and to quit smoking and saw dentist who referred me to oral pathologist who said she did not know anything about H Pylori and to quit smoking. Was given a fungal rinse and then meds to disolve on tongue and spit out which did not help. I have had issues for 4 years as far as my stomach goes and burning mouth for past 7 months. I am steadfast in not smoking cause im all about taking responsibility for my smoking actions. Not sure about your posting this video and if you actually want to document content thats posted. I hope you do. And just to comment on the last post. I as well have feelings of doom for no reason.
Got the same feeling of wanting to touch my face. I will tell myself sometimes am I having a stroke or something.
I think this was in here twice by accident so see my other response. Thanks!
I’m in the same boat as you! I hate this! I found out I have Gastritis still, reverse hypoglycemia & Hastimotos Thyroid Disease. This H Ployri causes a lot of damage!
Have you tried taking NAC to breakdown the biofilm on the bacteria so that the antibiotics can kill it? I think that's what I'm going to try before I start quadruple therapy.