Josh Pate On College Football's Biggest WHAT-IF's In 2024 - Part 5 (Late Kick Cut)
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- College Football teams are in summer workouts with fall camp around the corner and all eyes on the upcoming 2024 season, and on Late Kick Live Ep 528 Josh Pate discussed the biggest what-ifs the sport has to answer this fall. What if the expanded College Football Playoff sees more blowouts as teams like UGA, Texas, Alabama, and Ohio State continue dominating? What if Georgia Tech is actually the ACC's biggest sleeper? Could we see FSU, Florida, and Miami get things rolling in the Sunshine State? Let us know what you think in the comments below and be sure to SUBSCRIBE to the channel and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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The younger people don’t know of a time when all three of the Florida schools were good. You are right and very much correct about the effect of the Florida schools, keeping their in-state talent home. Go ‘Moles!
Yup. Go canes
that ain’t ever happening again. trust and believe that
@@GoatedAtNFS you'll find out how wrong you are soon enough
@@pnut3844able tell your coach to learn how to close a routine game
How old are you? 4 teams with 5 power conferences never made sense!
GT is in a hard position where they are a solid team, but with a difficult schedule. Give us VT or UNC's schedules and we'd be discussing if GT would hit 10 wins instead of just getting to a bowl game
100%
Georgia Tech is bringing back nine starters on offense from last year and Brent Key has gotten some wins nice wins over his first two seasons
Wow. I guess it's gotten so bad in Gainesville that y'all have to hype a mid ACC team 🤣
Haynes King is going to have his ear hole filled with Marvin Jones Jr and Patrick Payton.
Florida state's interior defensive line with Darrell Jackson and Josh farmer Will dominate Georgia Tech's line.
So if you're implying Georgia Tech is going to be Florida State then good luck with that.
Go ahead and bet your house on it.
@@jamesb0255 Yeah instead of addressing what I said, look for an excuse to gaslight and manipulate the comment like an A-hole
You FSU fans are going to be humbled soon
@@jamesb0255 I like how he never said anything about Ga Tech vs FSU but you're such an arrogant POS that you have to make everything about FSU. We'll see what happens on 8/24
@jamesb0255 GT boasts a top 10 OL but keep talking.
Haynes King in the thumbnail!
Georgia Tech will turn some heads this year. Bet the farm on the over 5.5 win total.
😂
Funny that you mention Georgia Tech. I read an article the other day stating that they have a top 5 offensive line, in college football.
@@teddy.d174 In college football, no. But they do have a top 3 line in the ACC and probably top 25-30 in CFB
@@ZackJonesGT 🤷🏼♂️ I didn’t write the article, I only read it…..it seemed a bit far fetched, but I don’t follow GT so I’m clueless.
JP, the GT ND game is actually at Mercedes Benz stadium but it is counted as a home game btw.
GT wins 9 games. At 9 they will miss the acc championship but should be in contention for the playoffs with wins over FSU and either ND or UGA.
FSU fan here: GT has always been a sleeper. We always circle that week when we have to play them, sometimes we lose!
As a Georgia Tech fan, I am forever indebted to you. I take back every negative thing I have ever said about this podcast. You are right, I am wrong.
Would not surprise me at all if Georgia tech beats FSU in Ireland
Unlike Miami we know how to take a knee, so I’m not too worried
@@grand_master_of_izalith7186 GT has won 2 of the last 3 matchups
That GT game is a trap game lol. so much can go wrong, that game might be close.
@@willcosper1696 GT has won 2 of the last 3
😂 Well be prepared for not, not being surprised 😂.
Sorry for the double negative It just seemed to fit.
YOU'RE NUTS!!! TWO MORE STRIKES AND YOU'RE OUT!!! Love your show, watch just about every day 😂
Thanks for the faith in GT! I’m really hoping my jackets are back to being competitive.
I’m not concerned about blowouts, which won’t happen as much because teams won’t have a whole month to prep, but we FINALLY have opportunities for upsets and different Final 4 teams every year!
Just look at last year, imagine an Alabama knocked out Georgia to take the SEC, but they play again in the 2nd or 3rd round with UGA getting the win to face off against Michigan…unless it was a Texas team that could stop that vaunted rushing attack and knock the Wolverines out earlier…or a Florida State (they had 10 other guys on that undefeated team) and Oregon get in cause some damage to set up all new scenarios!!
People hating on expanded playoffs clearly don’t get what makes March Madness, NFL and the FCS post-season so amazing!
I’m with you, I can’t wrap my head around the thought that a 12 team playoff is a bad thing. That argument is weak AF and just doesn’t hold up.
FL schools taking recruits back would kill half of the college teams. We would be a league by ourselves. I grew up with FSU, MIA, and FL, killing it.
If all three are killing it then it’ll be balanced. If just one is killing then yes they would prolly dominate
@@pleasenobotsjd1744It is usually worked out that two of the 3 were national contenders and the other was a top 20.
@@ijustwanttonap It was a different time in the sport then.
@@garybrown5391 ??? That doesn't make what I said untrue.
Georgia Tech has the team, but just a difficult schedule. We shall see how this season goes. Roll Jackets!
That’s the way it was through the Bowden years. The state of Florida ruled college football.
No one had a more competitive spirit than Meemaw
As a Gator, the deck feels even more stacked Because it’s not just the schedule but also account for this: UGA, Texas, and Ole Miss get a bye week before Florida. Kentucky gets Vandy, FSU get Charlestons Southern, TAMU get McNeese St. Miss St get Toledo. That’s means 7 of the schools will absolutely be fresh and healed before facing Florida. The extremity of this schedule begs the question of parity in scheduling in Birmingham, and the SEC should have to speak to it.
Why is Ryan Day in the thumbnail lmao
Thanks for giving some notice to the big changes happening on the flats. Program on the rise.
Roll Bees!! Bust some shins!
For multiple years the national championship ran through the state of Florida. We have the best athletes bar none.
And we used to have the best coaches. Mike Norvell has definitely stepped up to the plate and proved he is the top five coach.
Sunbelt Billy and Criscobowl have yet to prove themselves within the state of Florida.
That was several decades ago. 😢
Meemaw's wisdom never fails!!
We'll most likely see more non competitive games
We just keep expanding till we get back to where we started.
Yeah, what if cat really spelled dog lol?
Josh, why do you dislike an expanded playoff? Every year we can tell who the big dogs(no pun intended) and it always be the 4 similar teams every year? Why not expand it for more college football and for more opportunity? We know Georgia, Ohio state, Alabama, and so on are going to be the main winners but an expanded playoff adds your favorite segment “what if”.
The Georgia vs Alabama I heard was planned to be a night game at a neutral site. Is that still the case? Should be epic if it is.
Georgia vs Bama is being played at Bryant Denny Stadium in Tuscaloosa this season…
RTR
Go Jackets 🐝 on the rise
I can see Florida State competing for multiple championships under Norvell.
His HS recruiting has to match his production in the TP though. That's holding him back a little back
It has improved every year during his tenure. You should know how important it is to build relationships with high school coaches around the state. Mike came in with barely any of those relationships nor his staff so yes it has taken a while to build those relationships and have those high school coaches trust our recruiters to do the right thing for their athletes.
That is the way it has been in the state of Florida for decades.
But his pure genius in the transfer portal has brought Florida State wins very quickly. Opportunities that Mario and Billy had that they did not either capitalize on or could not develop those players into their systems.
As of right now our composite average in star rating is 6 on 247 and and 10th with On3. It was higher than that but we just signed a three-star linebacker to fill a need. Basically because Randy Shannon can't recruit his position. I would definitely agree we are lacking in that position but that's the only one. Plus our linebacker corp will be just fine this season.
@@WalkerSportsLounge their HS recruiting has improved each year under him.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! 63-3!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
I can’t wait to see them get smoked in the playoffs EVERY year. Little Mikey will cryyyy 😭 wahhh but what do you say then? OBVIOUSLY, they were not, and are not even close to being one of the best teams. 63-3 was all the proof you need.
FSU will have one of the best defenses in the country. I think FSU offense will be very bland. The offensive line should be a strong unit that will allow us to lean on the run game. I think the passing game will take time to blossom. With our schedule that should not be a major concern. Towards the end of the year one or two of our freshman will start to show true signs of being a superstar. This is a critical year for us to create more appeal for high school recruiting. This year Norvell and staff have showed that they are going to recruit strictly blue chip players and save the remaining scholarships for the portal. I like the thought process but we have to be able to get more players from the high school ranks.
Both Miami and Florida are down for the foreseeable future. Both UF and UM have a built in loss to the season over the next few years. And the only way Miami runs away from that is when FSU leaves the ACC. FSU took their lumps under Willy Taggart and the Covid season. But Mike and Alford are building something special in Tallahassee.
There will never be another Bowden or Saban run again. Kirby and Mike, might get close.
At the end of the day if you’re a one loss team you deserve to go to the playoffs expanding it was reasonable. I mean they left an undefeated Florida State team from the playoffs last year. Shit like that should never happen
Yes if they are good but they not and won’t be
What if I don't care
Hater
@pnut3844able these "what ifs" are such a waste of time. These analysts could do deeper dives into rosters to give a more accurate projection of what they think will happen throughout the season, but instead we get this garbage while they turn around and say dumb shit like "Michigan's defense can't get any better after they just lost Hutchinson and Ojabo" or some other ignorant hype train echo chamber BS that isn't accurate but sounds good.
Hey i don’t know if you’ve looked around or went outside to check if the trees are turning orange, but football isn’t happening rn. When you do a show every week of the year and you already cover coaches moving, recruiting, the portal, all that. You have to do something in July, and most people like it
With talent spreading out a little more (you aren't going to see Superteams like AL/Clemson in the mid-late 2010s anymore getting 8 5-stars per class), an expanded playoff makes sense. It either has to be 2-team style like the BCS or 12+ teams, a 4 team playoff was just the worst of both worlds.
I'll restate "what if" number one in shorter format: "What if every team in Florida is way better than everyone expects?"
Honestly, "what if" scenarios that are extremely unlikely just aren't interesting to me. Josh always says to not to offer up parlays on his boldest bet segments, but this "what if" is a huge (and unlikely) parlay.
Extremely unlikely? Obviously you were not around in the '80s and early '90s.
Josh is absolutely correct in saying that the top teams, who seem to be the same every year so you know who they are Josh mentioned them, consistently recruit in the state of Florida.
Plus, I say in a whisper it's the off season. He is paid to talk about scenarios and possibilities of the upcoming season and beyond.
So honestly dude if you don't like it get your college football news from somewhere else. You do have that right you know.
@@jamesb0255 LoL. Obviously you've missed that the 80's and 90's were 25+ years ago (and the fact that Florida sucked for its entire existence until 1991). CFB changes. Dynasties come and go. Just because the Florida teams were really strong back then doesn't mean that they'll ever all be really strong at the same time again, and CFB isn't any worse if they aren't.
The extremely unlikely "what if" scenario is 4+ teams in Florida all hitting the over on their wins total in 2024. Then spinning that off into this long-term change where _all_ of the Florida teams suddenly manage to out-recruit the 50+ programs recruiting the state. The modern CFB recruiting world is so far removed to what it was like prior to the social media era that it's just silly to try to compare the two.
And, I do get my CFB news from somewhere else; lots of somewhere else.
I do _NOT_ come to Josh Pate for CFB news. This is a commentary channel. Some of his commentary is entertaining; some of it is eye rolling (like his apparent belief that everything would be better if the teams that were strong when he was a kid were strong now, too).
I just think it would be far more interesting if he discussed "what if" scenarios that have a reasonable chance of occurring.
For example, I'm a UGA fan: What if UGA goes 8-4 this season (there are easily four games they could lose this season, though they could just as likely win all four of them). This is a more likely occurrence than the entire state of Florida hitting the over in 2024.
"WHAT IF" Michigan finishes 5th in the B1G TEN?
Voting in teams is why we have these blowouts.
Again haynes king heisman
Mr King meet Mr Payton and Mr Jones and Mr Jackson and Mr Farmer.
Our defensive backfield will have at least two interceptions in that game.
12,000 Florida State fans versus what maybe 6,000 gt fans? The marching Chiefs are going.
We are going to take over Aviva Stadium!
@@jamesb0255 he'll tell them hi personally as he runs past them as he rush for 80+
What if Notre Dame wins the natty?
Do people say Freemen is better than Day and Kelly? Does this stop future teams from leaving there conference?
That could have been decided if freeman would have put an 11th defender on the field the last two plays
what if the sky falls?
ND isn't going to survive the playoff gauntlet they will face year after year being too egotistical to join a conference.
ND’s schedule is too cupcake for that to happen
@@CertifiedClapaholicthey're not egotistical for being independent, if they'd make more money being in a conference they would join one. Just as if %90 of teams in CFP had the option to be in NDs position, they would. Because it's all about money.
I COULD SEE FSU AND MIAMI but Florida is fucked
The problem is not the 4 team system, it’s that they put the wrong teams in and seed them wrong. How is it fair to #1 Bama that they have to open with OSU while Oregon opens with lowly FSU? In a 12-team model it would work out to where Oregon plays TCU but Bama still plays OSU in the semis.
What if Alabama has only two losses, including a close one to Georgia in the national title game? All the people ripping DeBoer will have to eat crow.
what if THE ohio soft university beats michigan? LOL!!!! yeah right. new michigan coach doesnt mean ohio soft is guaranteed to win (oregon is winning big 10 for the next several years)
what if bama wins 11 games? LOL!!!! they will win 8 at the most (losses to tennessee, georgia, oklahoma, auburn)
what if napier isnt fired? LOL!!!! he is an absolute CLOWN! have you seen floridas schedule???
Biggest reach video he’s ever done.
huh?
@@LateKickwithJoshPate State of FL is light years from “owning” college football. FSU had 1 good year and no one else is nationally relevant at all - in fact Florida for example is in danger of 4-8, if they aren’t already a dumpster fire. Yes, FL is keeping some recruits in state and affecting college football that way, but it’s not a major impact yet, as the likes of Alabama & Georgia are still pulling top 5 classes.
That's why it was presented in hypothetical future tense. - JP
I hope UF beats the U but FSU will remain state champions. FSU will make the playoffs as long as ESecPN doesn't place their finger on the scale for Alabama.
Playoffs should have been expanded to only 6 or 8 teams. 12 is way too much.
Florida st will quit football before they win a natty
You mean a 4th natty. Probably not.
@@ijustwanttonap 1993 and 1999 are CLAIMED, not WON. So it would be a second natty, and they weren’t the quitters then they are now.
Expanded playoffs are Dumb. 4 teams were fine… at the most 6. They should have kept the BCS computer model when they switched to 4 team playoff.
4 Teams was awful. 6-8 Teams should have always been the Model.
@@aaronlampkin284 There aren’t more than 4 actual good teams in a year.
@@ksimon6485 That’s a lie and plenty years have proved it. Start from 2014
@@aaronlampkin284 Usually only 2 real good teams and sometimes a third. Hence there being a blowout every single year.
@@ksimon6485we'll see if that philosophy stands up with an actual playoff system.
Only 1 coach in Florida who got an offer from Bama fsu is the premier school in Florida . Georgia tech is not a sleeper they are in a coma lol..