[RPG] Handling Player Problems and Clashes at the Table
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
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In which the Gentleman Gamer explains his strategies for handling problems between players at the table.
And yes, in the thumbnail for this video, I am indicating the measurement of a fish / a loaf of bread / my penis / about to break into a rave with a good old fashioned big fish little fish cardboard box routine.
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"You're calling all the female characters in the game whores, trying to fuck everyhing that moves... this is a game of My Little Pony"
First time I've legitimately choked on my cup of tea while watching a RUclips video.
Brother you have filled me with joy, occasionally I check up on old RUclips channels I use to watch as a kid for a bit of nostalgia and they aren't doing to well. But you are smashing it out I found your channel as some more info on Vtmb and that was 11 years ago like I said man doing well and you've added some joy to my day seeing your still active if not a little more bald
'The problem player is either Lasombra or Tremere' 😂 Or both. This is too real.
The Lasombra flouncing out, with his trench coat and katana, off to manipulate shadows with a bottle of lotion
DAMN Sir! Critical damage, 0 hit points remaining. That Guys all around the world just felt a sudden chill.
Reminder never to anger the Gentleman Gamer 😅
He's too much of a gentleman too let it bother him.
That wasn't the Lasombra video I was expecting haha
Oh, boy. My last game before a 15+ year break from the hobby...
Honestly, I'd had a couple bad games in a row, and was in a bad place in life, which didn't help. But that last game. Two players constantly sniping at each other over...everything. Three players who were always late, brought their dinner & proceeded to eat it without bringing anything for the group, and were then disruptive. When one of them brought a Nerf gun and started shooting foam darts around instead of paying attention to the game, I was done. We were all adults, in our late 20s or early 30s. There was no excuse for that sort of thing. I just closed my books, booted everyone from my apartment, and didn't even try to assemble a new game.
It took my wife really encouraging me, because she knew it was something that I'd loved, for me to get back on the horse. And that was tough. I'm still pretty gunshy all these years later.
Understandably so! That's pretty bloody horrible.
Oh this is a great concept. In my early days and nights of running games Ive seen a lot. As ridiculous as this sounds, one such incident came to physical conflict 😔. But this person who instigated had a great deal of personal issues as we quickly realized. Needless to say, that person was never again extended an invite.
You’re not a coward. You’re a maturity. A rarity these nights. Also the “trench coat, katana, some shadows and a lotion bottle” was such an Incelery take like omg lol
This was a great video! I would love to see more stuff like this in the future if possible.
There's a whole treasure trove of video subjects I'd love to hear your more developed thoughts on, since it's been over 10 years when many of them were last touched on. The audience is likely whole new generation at this point as well.
Solid and nuanced advice.
Your tip at 20:40 is clever.
Players who non-consensually Blood Bond other players don't care *that* much about 'doing a task' or 'solving a problem'. They want to control the game, and they're using the task as an excuse.
Offering an alternative way to solve the problem calls their bluff. They can accept the alternative or lose face. If they continue trying to harass or Blood Bond the other players after that, you'll have more than enough reason to kick them from the game!
Thank your for the solid advice!
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I am glad to see another video from you. Is it possible that you can please do some more forgotten realms content. I think that of all your videos your explanation of the Zhentarim was my favorite.
In my experience, it is not the lasombra. It is the assamite or ventrue.
It depends on their level of self awareness.
We all know that Nosferatu or Gangrel tho, and although they may be quiet, they can do amazing things once their confidence has been built up.
Bottle of lotion 😂
The Lasombra weapon of choice!
Bottle of lotion! 😂😂😂
Do you think any of the eldest real antediluvians could openly challenge the antchrist in an end of days game setting?!
LosombA OR tZIMISCE IN PArticular?
Indeed, often a problem player is just that. A problem that should be solved by being removed from the game. Not a misundestood or misunderstanding person, but someone who doesn't want understanding. Just a immature, narcistic killjoy. Often they really have personality disorders like aforementioned narcissim. Yes, PD hinder your social life, and RPG is social hobby. And I played with and GMed people with different psychological issues. Most of such issues don't make you an asocial person and let you learn social skills. RPG are very terapeutic for them. But if the problem player is just being a d*ck, personality disorder or not, they won't learn and improve. Just remove them. E.g. my last gaming group included a person diagnosed with maniacal-depressive disorder and someone I'm now sure has narcissism or at least severe immaturity. The first was a good player in every way and we fought his depression together. The second one was removed mid-campaign after several futile attempts by everyone to educate him how to behave in and out of the game.
Often GM's duty is to take the hit and remove the problem player, since other players don't want to start the fire. And thus the problem player keeps being problematic and other players just leave disappointed.
Yeah, there's just no helping histrionics. A lot of them also have arrested development as well and act (and dress) more like middle or high schoolers than adults.
@@GamesbyMarcWolff Yup. Lots of them in RPG. Especially since the mainstream culture cultivates such immaturity. Unfortunately, White Wolf didn't make enough research of PDs for Malks. It's quite interesting to portray them and any other disordered character in more nuanced way instead of fishmalks and lunatics.
I played almost Assamite\Banu Haqim back in my early nights,and still managed to not be a edgelord about it. Most problem players just have a dominance issue,and that's why I struggle to sympathize. No one is owed a rulership. Like,maybe it's a democracy dude. Maybe there shouldn't be rulerships,not even in hobby groups.
21:01 I don't think in any game taking control of anther play fro more than a 3-turn period of time is okay, they are there to make decision (well if they okay with it its a dimeren story) Personally If play is being controlled and fights it with reason and character emotion, i let them have role even if its out of the rules, to get ther agency back or my favorite a Devils-Bargain XD
7:33 rules lawyer are the worse :D
Wow, are there really players you've met who work in politics all day, who say they don't want to engage in politics, but then sit down to play VTM!?!?
LOL
As a matter of a fact, the person who first invited me to a gaming club was a creepy Conservative Party councillor, so yes!
@@TheGentlemanGamer Hahaha, oh wow. To an American like me that sounds like a fever dream.
@@GamesbyMarcWolff Sometimes political differences are quite irreconcilable. But sometimes you'll find that we have a lot on common as human beings and that "political" differences are quite manufactured -- often deliberately, to keep us divided.
I say that as someone who's probably the most political person you'd ever meet.
never play with SJWs
What's a JSW?
@@TheGentlemanGamer Social Justice Warriors, it's often-used as a derogatory term for lefties who people think are being too sensitive, It's more of the "don't be so sensitive" stuff.