LGBTQ in the Church? Andrew Wilson vs Brandan Robertson - DEBATE!
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
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This is the perfect example of IF YOU DON’T STAND FOR SOMETHING YOU WILL FALL FOR ANYTHING! This guy is all over the place!
He's a preacher of "niceness", not god. He should have become a therapist, not a pastor
A fence sitter. When you can't form your own stance, nobody trust a fence sitter/yes man.
Well said
@ thank you! I heard that from my first pastor in a Missionary Baptist church 😊
Amen....he's the definition of 'lukewarm'
People forget “come as you are but you cannot stay as you are”
Neither is “come as you are” in ANY Bible, we are not acceptable as we are! The very reason Jesus came is because none of us are acceptable as we are! “Ye must be born again” whoever stays as they’ve always been is clearly not born again!
Time to do away with traditions and doctrines of men and exalt only the written revealed word of truth!
Love it
EXACTLY 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Rehab has the same philosophy by the way. For a really good reason.
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Within like 10 minutes Andrew got this guy to say the Bible isn't true, and that he agrees with all the core principles of satanism. Jeeze how can he even continue the debate after this?
I thought the same thing.
Once I knew his position, a proud satanist pastor. I didn't take the debate seriously anymore after those 15 minutes or so. I took it as an absurd woke entertainment that has nothing to do with the bible or god
Crazy part is that he is a pastor. How?
@@dotagodtv1508 Protestant one, so it's invalid anyway
Which one of the 7 tenets do you not agree with?
>Says that he agrees with the three tenets of Satanism
>Says he's friends with many satanists
>Says that the bible is not the ultimate authority
>Says that he believes God exists with faith but asserts it's not an objective truth
>Admits that he's agnostic
>Says that Paul is wrong on a lot of things
>Hardly uses scripture, aside from cherry picked verses.
This is a classic example of a wolf in sheep's clothing.
7 tenets of Satanism*** you're welcome
If you watched just 10 minutes of this video you also realize that there is nothing behind the dude.
The entire video is him losing the argument 50 times and then throwing in some nonsense answer like "well i dont think so", which triggers another round which he also loses, and on and on it goes.
This video was a waste of time. The dude is nonsense.
@nonusbusinissus5632 I am aware.
I stop watching when I found out his stance, I hope he repents! GOD WILL NOT BE MOCKED! His trying to change the Word.
It is written ”…on the rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it”.
This is a waste of time to watch but I'm only here to watch Andrew shit on idiots.
This is the problem with having your entire foundation based on your feelings.
That can be said about both sides of this argument.
Laughably Ignorant comment because it is "feelings" that are why we are religious in the first place. "Feelings" are how we determine if harm has been done. It is "feelings" that guide our reason, otherwise we'd be robots. You people ought to use your intellect, learn about human nature before making a comment merely rooted in your "feelings".
Feelings and emotions change so much and GOD NEVER CHANGES
Yes but some peoples feelings are based on rational ans critical thinking as well as facts with applied logic... other peoples feelings iw based souly on their perspective and ideals, with no rationality, applied logic and merely adopt what they wish to be reality when it is delusion.... its like saying 'a man can be a women' that isnt true as you can not back that based on your feelings or the delusion that is gender is a social construct @canteluna
@@canteluna How do you know that statement about feelings being the reason for being religious is true?
He just said he doesn't believe the Bible. Enough said- Stop debating. He's not a minister of God.
Well the Bible is the word of man not the word of god, god can’t write and he doesn’t talk to people that voice in your head is your conscious not god
@@SupremeWillisNo one's saying God physically wrote scripture, but it's such a basic Christian tenant to believe that the men who did write it were inspired and filled by the Holy Spirit aka Gos
@@SupremeWillis Wrong. The Bible clearly states that the fullness of deity was indwelt within Christ (Colossians 2:9). And, while his apostles and those associated with the apostles may have written the Biblical accounts, not Jesus directly, it was indeed the words of God. John 14:26 says, "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you."
@@SupremeWillis well there is no "voice in your head" and that doesnt hold any weight even if there was, how do you know its not the devil in your head or more commonly, schizophrenia, the whole basis of the christian religion stems from the bible, if you dont believe in the bible, you are NOT a christian, simple as that
@SupremeWillis you have wrote, by far, the stupidest comment on this video.
At minute 32 he says he’s an agnostic. What are we debating here?
Yeah I also picked up on that.
A subversive
Exactly. He's so false it's scary. Who would ever listen to him but people who want to affirm their sins
Yeah, he thinks "faith" means "an uncertain belief in something that may not be true" which is a poor definition of "faith" and so he is a doubter, a secular agnostic using Christianity as a costume he wears
He said he’s a Christian agnostic?
Brandon’s opening line, “For me this debate could not be any easier . . .”. Immediately displaying lack of humility.
At 55:16 Andrew asks, “Is The Bible the ultimate truth?” And Brandan responds, “no”. That tells u everything u need to know about Brandan. He doesn’t even believe his own faith.
He doesn't have faith
He has faith (i.e. trust or confidence) in himself and his own feelings and knowledge and experience, so he chooses to believe in himself rather than God; his faith is in self/Man
@@chrisquiett1776 He has an agenda....not faith.
Even as an agnostic or atheist, an individual can certainly recognize that being a Christian is achieved by believing and knowing that Jesus was the son of God and that the Bible is true and right and that we all sin and must seek redemption to be saved. This is the entire premise of being a saved Christian, which this sad excuse for a man obviously does not believe.
At the end of the day, No alive human can say their interpretation of the Bible is the absolute truth.
The Debate was over when i heard Don Lemon endorsed the mans book.
@@alphaalfalfamarsh6538 😅😂😂
Really? For me it was the part where they said he was a homosexual.
Oh you sure it wasn’t the part where he stands with church of satan and agrees with them or don’t believe in the bible or souls 😂
@@MizzElle-kp6nl I'm fairly certain it was Don Lemons endorsement. If Don Lemon told me breathing air was good, I may just hold my breath. I know it won't ever happen. Don Lemon speaks no truth.
@@alphaalfalfamarsh6538 lol I was being sarcastic 😅💕
“Liberation” from sin is the idea, not liberation to sin. Love is not affirmation.
Perfectly said 🎉
I've always thought "freedom from virtue is slavery to vice". Good way of thinking.
@ That is definitely what is going on.
This debate accomplished 2 things for me.
1- Brandon is depraved and gross
2- Andrew is graceless and obnoxious
I had to quit after about 20 minutes.
You all have a ball.
I agree I think Andrew is right but the way he goes about it pushes people away from accepting truth 😂
Being gay sucks . I lived the lifestyle for 17 years and it ruined me in every possible way. Pray for me.
Pray honestly and submit to Him and God can and will heal you. I will pray for you. I hope the best for you
*pauses video*
Father God, thank you so much for this awesome person sitting on the other side of this screen. I lift them up in your mighty name. I don't know them, but You do. Fill this person with the light of your spirit and give them peace. Father, I then ask that help this wonderful person walk the righteous path that glorifies and honors you. Let this precious person feel how much you love them and want to get to know them. In the name of the one most high, Jesus Christ of Nazareth... amen 🙌
Praying for u ✝🙏hold on look if u like Becket Cook or Rosaria Butterfield & others
Or just keep being gay and don’t do things that ruin you.
@Sbazz89 that's not how this works. Come as you are, but you cannot stay as you are. That goes for ALL sins of the flesh. Cursing, anger, jealousy, lust ... everything. And we should be encouraging this wonderful person to keep seeking the Lord, because the peace He brings to your soul is like no other. God bless 🙏
Brandan Robertson is arrogantly mocking religion.
Yes, and he's dragging people down the wide path with him. It's so sad. He needs to realize that Truth doesn't change just because it's painful.
He's outright mocking GOD
He even begins with lies, saying things like there are no scriptural passages that say that marriage should be strictly between man and woman, when there are.
well, he got beaten like a dog here, lol. his career is over.
Dudes going straight to hell
It's very telling that when Andrew asked him whether or not group sex was immoral he immediately appealed to his own morality and not the Bible.
That is all he did. He said "I believe" way more than citing the Bible
He doesn't believe in the Bible. He says so around the 56 min mark.
Idk how someone can be a Pastor if they don't even believe in the authority or truth of the Bible.
This guy Brandon is the same guy who called Jesus a raycist in a Tik Tok. We live in absurdity
Is the host a christian nationalist?
You can't spell.
I almost can se a demon through this guy Brandon’s eyes and gestures
Andrew absolutely destroyed him.
Common Andrew W
Nope 👎
Jesus would be proud. After all, Jesus was all about "destroying" others trying to find a path to god.
@@InTheMindOfAPianist...---...
Yep!!! Brandon lost within the first 8 minutes of this video!!! 😮😢😅
@@InTheMindOfAPianistyes
Brandan wasn’t ready for Andrew, he got obliterated.
There is no being ready when it comes to Brandan debating his position.
Brandon has never been ready when met with a debate on this topic.
Have you seen the debate between Brandon vs Jeff durbin and James white, they clearly won the debate and every time they had a good point on Brandon he just kept smiling and repeating the same failed argument over and over again thinking it would be better then the last time he said it
I’ve never seen somebody who is ready for Andrew.
He was not really destroyed, he was the calm person and therefore won. This "Andrew Wilson" man brings reproach upon the Church! I'm so sad.
The DAMAGE this Brandan guy is doing to the Church of Christ is INSANE. Holy moly! What a wolf in sheep's clothing!!! MY jaw is on the floor, Dude.
False religion save us God 🙏
My mouth literally fell open listening to his opening statement.
Sent straight from Satan. Satan LOVES this guy (Brandon). Its unreal thay he can say these things with a straight face.
I don’t think he realize the BLASPHEMY… I’m scared even watching this
He's a Protestant, so he's not even in the Church of Christ to begin with. He's part of a man-made sect that tecahes its own doctrines based on individual opinions about what the Bible teaches and what they wish it taught, just like all Protestants sects.
Thank you SO much for hosting this very, very important debate.
the church should be accepting of all sinners, that does not mean he church should accept the behavior
I’ve been saying this. Loving someone does not mean accepting condoning or approving of their behavior..
That’s absolutely true, but when the Sinner’s are now the preacher’s without any feelings of needing to repent for their sins and teach others about the true word of Christ,then that’s a whole other world of lies and false testimony that they will be taking others away from the Lord God himself! I would love to see all of us to know God,but I’m sickened by the way we see more and more Alphabet people taking on the responsibility of sharing the gospel with others,which is a non starter in the teachings of Christ and so they’re basically sending their followers in the completely opposite direction from the get go! And so I will never except it for that reason!
Because we are all sick and need a doctor-we’re just pointing to the doctor. For those who want to come to the hospital but don’t want to get cured we do not need to accept they are well upon their word alone.
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That’s absolutely true, but when the Sinner’s are now the preacher’s without any feelings of needing to repent for their sins and teach others about the true word of Christ,then that’s a whole other world of lies and false testimony that they will be taking others away from the Lord God himself! I would love to see all of us to know God,but I’m sickened by the way we see more and more Alphabet people taking on the responsibility of sharing the gospel with others,which is a non starter in the teachings of Christ and so they’re basically sending their followers in the completely opposite direction from the get go! And so I will never except it for that reason!
We in the Baptist community, DO NOT CLAIM THIS MAN!!!
He’s more then likely in the Methodist church
doesn’t matter, you’re in a cult.
Christianity doesn't claim this man. He doesn't know God.
He is the the fruit of sola scriptura
Which man? I’m in the SBC community and I claim the Eastern Orthodox Andrew as a christian brother.
Jesus: "I am the way, the truth and the light"
Gay Pastor: "I'm agnostic because I'm not sure if it is all really true"
This is insane.
☝️🤓 erm aktchually its "I am the way, the truth, and the Life"
John 14 6 .its life
Knew he had to be a Protestant before he even said it.
Didn't he said Jesus was not the truth??
Also, G-od: "i am no man."
The debate gets better and better
Brandan basically takes on the Muslim position on the Bible, only the parts that align with his world view are correct and the rest is "corrupt" 🙄
Give me examples of things that all Muslims would pick and choose what to follow from the Quran.
@captainsmoka9864 The first half of the Quran (Mecca) is dismissed by violent Muslims, and the second half of it (Medina) is dismissed by the peaceful ones.
@@MikeJones-m6rthat doesn’t even make sense. I have been a Muslim my entire life and I have never heard such a thing exist. Violent Muslims? I’m sorry but anyone who is Muslim and is violent is not considered Muslim by the majority of Muslims. And any peaceful Muslim who doesn’t accept half of the Quran is not considered Muslim either.
Plus the comment I am responding to is talking about a specific individual here who claims to be a Christian meanwhile comparing him to a position that is apparently held by all Muslims. That’s why your comment doesn’t make sense because it has nothing to do with what they said and what I asked. There is a general statement made here and what you just said does not compass all Muslims.
I think the point OP is making is that the Muslims are happy to accept the parts of the Bible that match their worldview, but the parts that don’t comport are disregarded as 'corrupted'.
Which basically refutes their worldview since they believe "the book" (the Bible) is the word of Allah, and they believe the Bible is corrupted, yet the Qur'an teaches the words of Allah cannot be corrupted.
Wow. Just a few minutes in and Andrew has Brandan admitting that everything he believes is subversive and satanic. Wow. 😮 This. is. a. masterclass.
If Brandan would only admit that he's a Satanist and not a Christian, certainly not a Protestant
Which of the 7 tenets do you not believe in?
@@courageousmelon5654
I will give you 2 tenants that I do not believe in and why I don't believe in them. I could destroy all of the tenets but don't want to waste my time because I proved you wrong already..
-Tenant 1 One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason: I don't believe because Compassion to satanists and Brandan leads to saying that not using the delusional pronouns misgendering a trans is not compassion and wrong
-Tenant 3 - One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone: I don't believe because it leads to people saying my body, my choice and slaughtering 73 million babies in the womb.
+be subversive+ -satanism vs. +even be a martyr and have not love as your motive, your act is worthless+ 1 Corinthians 13.
So, motive.
@@courageousmelon5654 You're starting from the wrong place. I believe exercise is important. So that is a thing I believe. But I do not accept that exercise is important is a tenet of religion. If someone tried to make exercising a tenet of religion, they would be subversive, but that doesn't mean that the statement in the abstract is untrue.
Satan is not dumb.
Brandon is trying to argue from scriptures. The same bible or scriptures that he denies to be true.
Ah, the oldest trick in the book. The devil himself has used the word against Christians.
Couldn’t say it any better. This heretic needs to get out of the pulpit and repent. He twists scripture to fit his twisted lifestyle
He’s not starting top-down in his worldview that God must be true for any human reason or morality to exist, its bottom-up starting and ending with his own autonomous reason and instincts. But even if his human nature and urges are true, he’s undercut the Bible and God’s sovereignty with his postmodern thinking that he has no grounds to stand on, just a leaf blowing in the wind on truth.
^ a +gay+ blowing leaf you mean 😆
@@Jaryismwell said
Killer debate. Andrew Wilson was like a Great White shark 🦈 Best work I’ve seen from him yet. If there’s a better one please let me know somebody. I’m thrilled he’s standing for sum biblical moral. I don’t know his personal walk with God or if he has a personal relationship with the creator but I’m thankful he’s a Beast at this standing for some righteousness 🦁 There’s a Time to be a Lion and there’s a Time to be a Lamb 🐑 Jesus knew how to be both. 🗡️ 🛡️ 🕊️
Andrew has systematically revealed that Brandon has no ground to stand on, amazing.
We do need to pray for Mr. Robertson.
We should support lgb like we support our disabled children 🥲
Brandan's therapist works so well, he's needed him for 15 years.
Zing!
As a therapist in training, that's not how it works. We're not there to 'heal' you. We're there to help you 'heal' yourself. This is all on Brendan, please don't drag our profession down with it! I get there is plenty of resentment towards our profession, unduly I believe and I'm happy to discuss that. Unfortunately some (if not a lot of) therapists should simply not be therapists. They don't have the wit or the skill. Granted. Happy to expand on that more if you feel like that's some kind of 'avoiding responsibility' statement. Have a good one mate.
@@ajhd95yes, it’s all a scam and nonsense. There’s actually almost no evidence at all therapy works in and of itself.
@ajhd95 sorry dude, therapy is an apostate mockery of religion. I was in therapy on and off for 10 years - I found it confusing and ineffective. Many other guys have the same experience. And the field attracts the laziest, most degenerate people you can imagine (it's not hard to become a therapist). I'm not saying you can't be a good therapist - but therapy itself is a terrible construct.
Any "therapy" should come from your church leader/father/bishop. Our mental health problems have spiritual roots - no secular construct can actually heal them.
@@ajhd95as as a therapist myself, 7 years in, get back to us after you’ve done it for a few years. 95% of therapists do more harm than good.
The so-called 'pastor' started off arrogantly stating that this will be an easy debate, then went on to embarrass himself.
😄😄😄
I honestly don't think he really cares about how unchristian, ungodly or what have you, he appears on here. He's garnered media platforms attention and that's what he cares about. Oh and people's feelings, he doesn't wanna hurt anyone by telling them ultimately sin is wrong and they should repent and do their very best to turn away from sin. Yeah anyone who believes that Satanist are actually atheist is truly lost. 😅
"For several decades we psychologists looked upon the whole matter of sin and moral accountability as a great incubus and acclaimed our liberation from it as epoch making. But at length we have discovered that to be free in this sense, that is, to have the excuse of being sick rather than sinful, is to court the danger of also becoming lost… In becoming amoral, ethically neutral and free, we have cut the very roots of our being, lost our deepest sense of selfhood and identity, and with neurotics, themselves, we find ourselves asking: Who am I, what is my deepest destiny, what does living mean?”
“Sin, the Lesser of Two Evils,” American Psychologist, 15 (1960): 301-304 Hobart Mowrer
A preacher who says he has no answers for souls it's above his pay grade? The whole point of the pastor is to help care for the soul.
Facts!
He is the epitome of a false prophet/teacher
A true Shepard would lead the flock out of calling by God, in honor to God, and love for the flock. As well as guiding them to Christ.
So you are completely correct JPG
Actually, the role of the Pastor/Preacher is to teach and equip the saints.
@shawnnelson1974 who said it wasn't??
This guy is THE wolf in sheep’s clothing.
Essentially says he is
"I am subversive" - Brandan
A wolf in sheep’s clothing is at least disguised. This guy is a wide open plain as day heretic fraud. His errors are impossible to miss
Worse than a murderer. A heretical leader
Nah he is legit just a wolf its plain to see the wolf in sheeps clothing are those that might agree 99% with actual theology then try subvert with the 1%.
Andrew's opening statement is basically just him roasting this guy.
It points out the hypocrisy. If you are a gambler, an alcoholic, a drug addict, a sexually perverted person, you are supposed to die and follow Jesus. Give up what is sinful.
Why do all the so-called Christians here take such delight in Andrew "destroying" God's fellow creature, Brandan? You people think you have the right to judge and condemn. Jesus is quite clear on this subject. You should concern yourselves with your own sin. Christianity may have been a blood sport to the Romans, but you should have learned from their error.
When he says, "brandon" sarcastically is hilarious.
Not afraid to say all the things
The closing statement was just as piercing 😂
Andrew is an absolute MONSTER when it comes to destroying illogical arguments. I would absolutely love to have a conversation with him.
Andrew's haters will say Andrew is meanie and a bad Christian coz he goes full bloodsports on his opponents. Brandan Robertson for the first time in his entire adult life has been confronted and demolished by somebody willing to say the truth without sugercoating it. THAT PERSON WAS ANDREW !!
And when somebody attacked the Father, His Word, or His Will, Christ didn't mince words. It's why the pharisees and others tried to grab Him many times before the cross.
@@AnyaMidkiffExactly. People who believe the "hippy" Jesus didn't read the Gospels. He was calling EVERYONE out. Especially one group, who hates Him more than anyone.
but he smokes !!!!!
I demolished Brandon last year
1 Peter 3:15
The TRUE CHURCH is never influenced by society.
On dogma yes, not on its liturgy or how it’s taught. That’s why there’s a “Greek church” and “Russian church”
I don't think Brandan actually understands how badly he lost this debate
Yeah, I am a big Andrew Wilson fan his style & his debate tactics are great, I already know he won this, I am starting it right now & I am feeling 2nd hand embarrassment through the screen on his behalf, this debate premise is like "Is the moon made of cheese" ? The debate proposition is not worthy of serious inquiry like "is abortion murder" well yes some things are objectively true or false, the thing that is harmful & false theology being taken seriously & believed is the harm that God only knows all the people negativity affected, I assume based on your comment sounds like the unawares of Nadir Ahmed which is easily the worst debater I have ever seen, literally blind to all past debate performances.
Brandon is a symbol of confidence doesn’t equal to competence.
@gregorytremain4086 yes I see this alot, like in dawah the Muhammad Hijab's & the chest thumping of an absolute ignorant person, with unflinching confidence like an Andrew Tate, telling on himself for 10 years on so many videos, says it all in full confidence & thankfully it will all be used as evidence against him now, but I agree with you that confidence does not equal competence.
When he’s surrounded by so many lies that he can’t recognize truth when it stares at him, makes it not only believable but necessarily true that he can’t recognize losing. I think he left truth behind a long time ago and it will literally take and act of God to show him any truth at all.
@@gregorytremain4086lol I just heard those exact words on the PBD and Wes Huff podcast!! Did u just listen to it???😂
If not, u should!
Finally, Brandon can ask a question!
I don’t understand how there could be a debate on homosexuality and what the Bible says about it. It’s written for all to see. 🤷🏼♂️
I agree. Don't cast your pearls before swine. Don't debate with the wicked.
He claimed that there was no mention of it being wrong in the bible. Didn't say it was an abomination? Has he read any of it? He's just saying be gay everyone it ok! He believes his word is greater than God's.
Well the argument is "my faith is my truth" but he picks and chooses what is his "faith" he uses the bible when he can, when he cant he uses psychology or something else.
Itd be like me saying i believe the bible about jesus' life and death. But i believe Georges Lemaítre about the big bang theory.
@@KarlRidener All religious people do that. They pick and choose what they want the truth to be.
Well, I think there is PLENTY to talk about with this issue. And I'm give you some examples and I would genuinely welcome anyone that wants to respond:
*why do we as Christians focus SO MUCH on homosexuality when it is literally only mentioned two times(and one of those times it is an indirect mention) meanwhile we are more than happy to ignore the various other sins which are not only discussed and condemned at length all throughout scripture AND to which all Christians are guilty of DAILY!!!
*I have never heard the same condemnation and hardline approach used with any of the following, all which are super common; lying, cheating, anger, jealousy(a big issue for women), greed (a big one for men especially), Anger (a big issue for all!), lust and pornography (the number 1 sin destroying Christian men and marriages), and several more. Why is there never a discussion about "should the church accept 'porn addicts'?"
It seems to me that there is a personal and cultural aspect to homosexuality that is affecting the way Christians process and deal with this topic. Straight people, and in particular straight men, are very uncomfortable with same sex attraction and they are injecting that personal disdain into the biblical instruction on homosexuality.
If we TRULY went off the Bible alone, and not our own fallable attitudes, then we would treat homosexuality on par with "sometimes I get angry with my husband and yell at him and even curse".
*my next important question and observation(which no one has answered for me thus far)- is it SOLELY the sexual act that compels us to condemn homosexual relationships? Andrew was quite keen to highlight the specific and graphic physical sex acts as the defining factor-- and yet I would submit that this is not true for the vast majority of gay folks. They do not seek out a partner for sex-- they can get that physical need fulfilled by hookups. Instead, they seek out relationships for the same meaningful reasons we all do; safety,security, intimacy of emotion and psychologically, support system, alleviating loneliness, and committed love. And so I posit the following- would we have the same qualms and objections to gay relationships IF there is no sex involved? Is the sin distinctly in the physical act? This matters!!! I know several gay people that ONLY avoid church and Christianity because of this issue and they have expressed they would happily give up sex and just have a committed, loving partner if that meant they would be accepted by the church and by God.
*Finally, I'm expecting to receive some responses about how the important part about the sins I mentioned earlier (lying, lust, etc) is something that the sinner seeks forgiveness for and works to do better. But how is that any better or any different than a gay person? Are they "okay" as long as they ask for forgiveness and try to do better?
There is a lot to still be discussed on this issue. For me personally, my biggest grievance with other Christians is the nasty way in which we talk to or about gay people. We are NO BETTER than them! We are ALL broken sinners. And so, if a gay person wants to come to Christ, we should welcome them with open arms! That doesn't mean we have to affirm or celebrate their sexuality! They can work that out with God. But this idea of "gays can't be Christian" is abhorrent and goes against everything Jesus commands.
He JUSTTTT said that even if the bible found homosexuality to be a sin, he would see no problem with it. I've realized that the reason man fell wasn't because of the fruit but the intention behind why he and she ate. Once you take anything to be true that directly contradicts the word of God and in doing so you take even pride in it, you are crossing a line that shouldn't be crossed. Brandan, I am truly praying for you.
I’m a bit concerned you didn’t understand the point of the Apple right away. They literally say you have everything and this is your only rule. What else would there be besides intent? You thought the point was the act of eating fruit? Also is likely wasn’t actually an apple. That’s bad translation. They could eat Fruits with seed, ie an apple. It was a fruit from the tree of knowledge, we’re not sure if it was an apple and likely wasn’t.
Tree of knowledge of good and evil = moral agency and culpability = if given, imperfect creatures/humans, will inevitably choose to do something that is not perfectly holy and righteous, therefore inevitably will sin/fall
The point is that Man decided "I'm not going to obey God and do His will, I'm going to do what I want by my will" and the knowledge of good and evil (morality) only condemns us, whereas Life is then only avaliable through grace and mercy by God via Christ the Messiah, not by our works (doing good), but by His works and His goodness!
Well yeah. God gave them the chance to repent by asking them to explain themselves. Instead, in their pride, they took no responsibility for their actions, and Adam even implicitly blamed God for his own sin.
@@mcfarvoGod never intended man to know good and evil, thus there would never be a way for man’s innocence to be determined by our works. Our innocence was intended to be upheld by trusting in God, this secures an eternal relationship between God and man. The command given to not eat the fruit was intended to maintain eternal life for Adam and Eve. Satan knew that this command was necessary and recognized the opportunity it afforded him, Adam and Eve had a choice to make. Satan seized the opportunity given by the command, and deceived Eve into believing they could be “like God”. It was a half truth, not easily discerned, because the knowledge gained would make them “like God”, but simultaneously separated them from the source of life because the choice to eat the fruit could only be made from a position of unbelief in God. Satan deceived them into corrupting their hearts through lack of faith. The result of their choice was guilt and shame, and separation from the image in which they were created. Man’s pure flesh was corrupted with the nature of Satan, his spirit was cut off from the Spirit, and his soul was guilty and no longer innocent. The descendants of Adam have since been held captive by Satan, sold as slaves to sin by Adam. This process repeats itself with each human, except that our flesh is no longer pure, but sinful by default, so when (not if)the commandment come to us, we no longer have a choice like Adam, our ability to choose is high jacked by our sinful nature that we inherited, and thus we all inevitably sin. Or something along those lines, I’m sure I haven’t fully fleshed that out completely. Genesis 3 and Romans 7 provides a lot of insight into the matter, when you see those chapters in their fullness.
You are describing the blasphemy of God. Which once this sin has been committed too many times it’s irreversible in Christianity.
People seem to forget, when offering sympathy, that Brandon is promoting himself as a church _leader_ and leading others to death. Knowingly. He's read and heard the Truth many, many times, and rejected it in favor of his opinion and definitions. This isn't something Christ minced words on when setting false church leaders straight. It is not kind to be "nice" about people twisting His Will and Word in His own house to mislead others. We don't define love or sin, God does. Period. And while we forgive those who wrong _US_ we don't give sympathy to those who willingly mock Him and serve the enemy.
Romans 1 is specifically about this sort of person.
This kid Brandon is dangerous
I'm not sure his followers will be judged for his teaching. But the Bible is clear as the shepherd he most certainly will.
@@rogerledoux4741 They most likely will be if they continue to listen to that false prophet. They are actively choosing to follow Brandon's teachings despite hearing the truth.
What words did Christ not mince? What of the 200 recorded words of christ included info about homosexuality etc? Were those direft witnesses or people 5/30 years post resurrection.
One position: christ is son of creater GOD the almighty, died and rose again....anything after that is mankind's words not Christ's nor gods. Too much attempts to corrupt the scriptures and texts by monarch and political purposes over thousands of years make it a mute point in 2024. God is real...Jesus is too.....and Jesus isn't sending people who masturbate or are lesbian etc to hell....that's not the nature of God. Yahweh is not god....jehovah and yah weh are names of the demon lucifer claiming to be God. There's plenty of stories of Satan claiming to be God in scripture. It's not trustworthy. You think Satan wouldn't corrupt the Bible? OF COURSE it's the most jmportant document and story and testimony! Of course Satan targeted it! And the Vatican and the church too! Look at it today@ It's been corrupt . If Jesus showed up tomorrow and this dude just scked a D....if he accepts Jesus in his heart Jesus has COMPASSION .....his heart turns away from no man animal or any lifeforms. Sorry you're wrong. Andrew is right about alot of things but so much is just literally cult mentality
Should the church be accepting of LBG people? Absolutely not! The problem is that nobody ever asks the Jewish church or the Islam church or the Mormons or jehovah’s witnesses to accept LGB people only the Christian church. And the answer is if anything goes against the Christian doctrine or any doctrine of any religion, then no! they should not be forced to accept it. We all know that the church does not accept sin and that’s the way it is. it should be that way. There should be standards among religions that they’re not accepting of everything. If that is your lifestyle, that’s your choice, but you can’t force it on everybody else.
He says the Bible is wrong in areas which essentially means he picks and chooses what he likes. What hurts his feelings he throws away. A theological buffet.
The bible says to stone people that worship the sun God. You have to pick and choose, or you're dangerous.
The ideology of Satan. If the Bible supports what I like, I cite it. It validates me with the highest authority. If the Bible doesn’t support what I like, it isn’t true. It doesn’t validate me.
This is using the Bible as a tool of self-validation in order to exalt one’s personal likes. You can seek validation without the Bible. Ppl will validate you all over the place. Satan picks the Bible and cites it in his cause in order to steal its power for his own personal ends.
That's what demons do. That guy is filled with them. The Truth is all of the truth or nothing. There's no in between. There is no middle between light and dark.
All religions do that. They just interpret the Bible. That’s all we can do.
@@ariadnavaldivia9820 False.
20minutes in the guy is saying "I'm friend with satanists". Guess the debate is over lol. GG
As Christians we should be lovely to Satanists. I'm not sure if friends is the right word but they need Jesus as much as we do and it's our job to show them him
Did you miss the part where he explained these people arent actually literal satanists and dont believe in any deities? Is it wrong to be friends with atheists as a christian?
Im not sure how you gather that premise. After all of the compelling things revealed in this debate, and showed how wrong Brandon is. You chose this? People can be friends with Non Christians, Athiests, And even Satanists. Although itd be pretty hard for me to do. It still doesnt necessarily mean anything with this debate. He lost because hes a fraud. He lost because hes a heretic and has no logic.
When he said he agrees with the satanic temple the debate ended.
Nothing wrong with that per se. I'm friends with non-believers too of different sins and beliefs, we must witness to them.
"Jesus may not be true" ended the debate...... Jesus is truth....
I am the way, THE TRUTH and the life…
what-do-you-expect-from-a-bagel-rainbow-trying-to-grift-the-religion-he-loathes?!
@@SpaceCowboy46 only true with faith 🔐 #accesscode
@@SpaceCowboy46 & he thinks he should be a minister....
The cognitive dissonance in Brandon runs deep.
If people that say they're part of the LGBT community want to go to church that's fine but they must get saved and change their ways and not stay in in that sinful lifestyle and give their heart to jesus
I am of the same belief, being a person who has denounced homosexuality and a want to follow the Lord and his teachings ❤❤
Brandon's issue is that he has the impression that the scholars of the olden days were not deep thinkers.
"Oh, well it was back then, we are so much smarter now."
Yeah, but not really. On average we are smarter than that time and have more technology but when it comes to deep thinking and theology, most of us are exactly the same as the peasants Andrew was talking about.
What fuels Brandon is pride and entitlement.
I want Brandon to read a bit from the Summa Theologica and then try to say that again with a straight face.
Brandon worships satan. He is aware he is lying.
We have more knowledge now, because we have had more time to observe reality. We don't really have any more intelligence. I think that's a good way to say it. Intelligence does not equal knowledge.
I reject the notion that we’re smarter now then we were then. I’d actually tend to believe the opposite is true.
We’re definitely not smarter now than we were even 50-100 yrs ago. Look at school tests for kids in the early 20th century and what they were required to know as opposed to what kids are required to know today to graduate high school. It’s embarrassing how stupid we’ve become.
Brandon admitted to agreeing to the tenants of Satanism. End of debate
Tenet*
tenant is something entirely different
@johannesstephanusroos4969
Its literally the foundations of Brandon's beliefs
@@johannesstephanusroos4969 We all know what was meant. Speak about the actual idea within the comment
@@johannesstephanusroos4969comments section spelling police!!! Watch out!!
You are right, however, not sure of you have read them, but you would be kind of stupid to not agree with most of then whether you are religious or not, they are mostly just common sense "golden rule" type things.
That being said i think satanists are morons, but there is nothing "evil or satanic" in those 7 tenets. In fact i would argue jesus would boarderline agree with them.
The longer I live, the more I see the truth in the Bible. Blessed Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on us sinners.
Amen. By His grace i know exactly what you are saying! Thank you Jesus our redeemer lives!❤
YOU KNOW THE GOOD NEWS GOD RECEIVES EVERYONE
Amen
@sparrotara can you give us your source for this information?
@@sparrotara *that repents, believes, and obey’s His word.
The church has not changed their beliefs on 'slavery'. It was always anti-slavery & much of the early church were slaves/former slaves who flocked to the message & hope it offered them.
At least insofar as how slaves should be *treated* if you have slaves. Some will point to the command for slaves to be obedient as a knock against Christians but ignore the part about the masters being warned that they will be treated in the next life in the way they treat their slaves/servants.
Combine that with the command to love your neighbor as you would love yourself, the rational conclusion is that you're ordered to be a *very* considerate and understanding master.
Which, tbh, makes the dynamic more like an employer than the type of chattel slavery done often.
Yes- slaves obey your masters is anti-slavery- totally.
@@ragingsmurfling7205 I can't remember the verse but it stated that masters and people who are sold people should be put to the sword. Basically stating people can't own people or sell people.
@ragingsmurfling7205 that was the type of slavery it was talking about, it was indentured servitude and that of an employee employer relationship.
Yes paul says their is neither jew or gentile slave or free we are all the same under christ
For the viewers who are joining ! Let me give you spoilers !!
Andrew broke brandan's philosophical , psychological, scientific and theological pillers with such precision that it's almost career ending for robertson.
We can only hope. Brandon is doing the devil's work alone and we pray that it ends.
Wrong. My Truth is the fruit won.
I am just starting and I am hoping this is true... SO HOPING!!!!
@@davidfunk6698Your truth? You sound like one of them. Or maybe you are and I took your meaning of the fruit wrong. In that case the fruit definitely lost.
@@davidfunk6698my truth is that you’re completely deluded.
The fact that we’re having this debate is just to tell you to open your eyes and realize how far gone the world is now. And sadly It’s not stopping anytime soon.
Great point. We are getting closer
I don’t always agree with Andrew on everything but I’m rocking with him here!
The reason why I won’t call people by a fake pronoun is EXACTLY what Andrew is saying. ITS NOT REALITY AND REALITY MATTERS.
Same here, I'm not gonna play into delusion. They want the whole world to take part in their charade and they gotta accept the fact that not everyone is gonna play that game.
reality also includes 0 proof of miracles or demons and super powers of any kind, I hope we agree on both lol
Thank you 🙏. Reality matters. Not subjective interpretations on what we’d like reality to be. Whenever I hear someone say, “my experience…” I have a hard time listening 🙄 my grandpa was right, folks who always preface everything with experience are usually full of themselves, and just wanna tell you how what you’re about to say is different for them and the rules don’t apply. It’s actually childish. And now I get it.
Reality matters? Hahahahahaha. Then why do you believe in God? You can't prove the existence of God. You take it on faith - feelings (although Andrew does a good job of pretending that logic alone matters, yet his logic can't prove the "reality" of God.) You people need to get your story straight. Is it faith that matters or "reality"?
@@canteluna God bless you, little fella ✝️
This is what separates Andrew from other Christian debaters !! Andrew doesn't rely on theological arguments....he adopts a holistic approach and destroys the foundation of all claims you make whether you make a scientific or a psychological claim.
But Andrew has no biblical foundation which defeats the entire purpose of this conversation. This debate was with a gay pastor. Surely it MUST include scripture
@@Jeremy-wp4yh is there not wisdom that follows biblical truths and principles, does not go against them, but is worded differently?
@@Jeremy-wp4yh The gay pastor should debate GodLogic next. That'll put the nail in the coffin.
Thing is, in standing on the scripture and it's principles, it applies to all else.
@@Jeremy-wp4yhBrandon has been given Scripture by _MANY_ pastors and theologians, but he just decides his opinion is higher than the Word. So Andrew is giving him the rest of the argument, on Brandon's own, worldly terms.
Marriage is a religious institution. Imagine if non Christians began demanding the right to be baptized. Now imagine the govt began issuing licensing for baptism, and gave tax breaks for baptism. The secular world would demand separation of church and state. Govt has no right to be involved with marriage either, nor should any atheist.
So when non religious people get married how is that a religious institution 😂
Hey anyone can get baptised, they just have to profess Christ and thus become a child of God. Oops, lol
Saying "Govt has no right to be involved with marriage" and that "marriage is a religious institution" is profoundly ignorant because you clearly don't understand how religion derrives "institution" status in a society. Government itself is a bunch of institutions, and the Catholic church, for example, only exists in a society with a state government at its center. Without the state, there are no institutions, and so no religious institutions. The Christian religion was originally NOT an institution because it was not recognized by the state. It was first recognized as in 313 when Emperor Constantine issued the Edict of Milan. The status of being institutionalized is what gave Christians the power of the state, meaning the religion can be used in marriage, education, etc. So, when you claim that govt has no right to be involved with religious institutions you are wrong and so need to rethink your argument about the state's role in regulating religious expression.
@@canteluna you said all that, and you don't even know what the word "institution" means in this context.
@@phillipburk1258 That is not an argument. Attempt to prove me if you can.
Marry 4 men to each other wow. Just beyond ...wrong.
It's Disgusting
Brandan is literally the epitome of the criticisms against us Protestants.
So painful hearing him commit such blatant blasphemy while proudly claiming to be a pastor and saying that he is protestant subscribing only to the word of God which he blasphemously claims to be inaccurate, metaphorical, and at times, flat out wrong…. I pray he finds his way
@@50543bdt Agreed. He is also not qualified to hold this position in the church. He runs his own church, not a church build by the lord and saviour
When you base the interptation of biblical truth on each individual person, you run in to issue like this. People like Brandan start to arise. But in the orthodox world view, it's not about you as an individual everything is based on what our apostilical fathers thought starting from the disciples and got passed down to their desciples all the way down to this generation. Since God is non changing, the teaching does not change. With Orthodox, people like Brandon stick out like a soure thumb because the orthodox churches are so united in the doctrine. That's why the church fathers are very quick to exclude people like brandan from the church. I'm from Ethiopia, and i could go to Egypt orthdox church and know exactly what is happening at the church service without understanding the language because of the unity the church has across the world regardless whether these counties church leaders have be in contact or not. Please look in to orthodoxy
@ I should clarify I just realised you said Egypt. That is different altogether than what I read. I went to an Egyptian orthodox wedding and it was beautiful. But there are other separate issues I have with OO
As a Baptist, I condemn Brandan totally. He isn't a Protestant anyway. He's a blasphemous cult leader.
If Wilson was Brandan's dad and they have this kind of argument at home, Brendan would scream "NO ONE UNDERSTAND ME UGHH (crying)".
Being nice does not equal kind. Being truthful equals kindness, even if it doesn’t sound “nice” or pleasant.
I would rather be told a harsh truth than a kind lie.
@ agreed. It’s much kinder to the person. They’re already gonna feel pretty dumb when they accept their body as it is.
Brandon wants God to conform to him, not the other way around!😵💫🤯
Exactly
What I find amazing is he says God can be wrong. We'll then he's not God. Logic is not this guy's strong suit.
@@rogerledoux4741 I never understood how someone could think God could be wrong when God created everything. A creator creates the rules and writes the story of the universe. Not sure how God or something like God in a hypothetical could be wrong if they wrote the rules.
If we want to keep the law, we should keep the whole law. The law isn´t a buffet, that you can pick from what you like, and leave what you dislike.
For example, why don´t we keep the Shabbath anymore ? This is the day that our Lord rested in the tomb. From the approximately, at most, 36 hours he was dead, 24 was on the Shabbath.
Even though God ordered us to keep this day, the Shabbath, holy, yet no Christian is willing to keep it. We are all a bunch of hypocrites.
@ We are not under law, but Grace, Jesus is our Sabbath.✝️💖
He admits in his open that his Christianity is always "evolving". My question to him is how do you know what your religion has evolved into is still in fact Christianity???
Great point!
He’s a Protestant. He’s just embodying the “always reforming” slogan
And this is why I disagree with protestantism. As I get older and watch society it seems narcissistic. If you believe the word of God then how do possibly think your changing the word is still God's word. Orthodox and practicing Jews it seems are the truly devout imo
@@Dancingokapi Talmudists are truly devout? Perhaps, but they are devoted to satan, not God.
People love to LARP as Christians. I can say Im a muslim and eat bacon and never pray, but Im not actually a muslim.
how can you even call yourself a christian and not beleive what the disciples and apostles said?
Like for real, you can't be a Christian while also disbelieving most of the NT and the gospels in particular.
Once I'm done with my first viewing I'll come back with time stamps. So far he has admitted he is agnostic, isn't sure about the soul, supports the 7 tenants of an organization antithetical to Christianity, aaand denies scripture. Off the top of my head I know scripture that outright puts the lie to his claims.
I'd also like to state that I'm not myself a Christian, I'm more like a cheerleader on the sideline... and also I should say I'm a little on the homosexal side. Because I cannot be what Christianity asks of me I'm comfortable not intruding on others beliefs.
maybe-cause-the-rainbow-is-a-bagelite?!......come-on-now!
Good question. I honestly couldn't figure out what this guys game is. I assume it's some kind of scam because none of it made sense. Is he drifting money from supporters or is he there as a subversive force to corrupt the traditional church values?
@@DavidRobinson-sv2ivGnosticism and Mysticism has been used by many to iinfiltrate all institutions and eroded them from the inside. Ot is all about self. To change and distort for self. Hagel viewed himself as a Christian but his wrtings show he wanted to be his own god. Individuals who do not follow the Prophets of God, listen to God's will, continue to sin and not atone their own transgressions, they are not part of any Abrahamic faith. He chose to call himself a Protestant just to go against Catholicism, but one more step in his path of subversion.
This is hardly a debate. I’m 25 minutes in and NOBODY has quoted any scripture. This isn’t a biblical debate
You really do have to give Brandon Robertson credit. It does take a lot of courage to not only engage in debates with opposition, but also engage in a debate taking the stance of defending what’s easily the most backwards, asinine, convoluted worldview possible. Takes guts, for sure.
I'm surprised he stayed around as long as he did. He lost 15 minutes in. But, good job on not giving up when trying to defend a position that's as tangible as the very air we breathe. I would have disconnected my router. 😂
Guts? Nah, sheer ignorance and stupidity and malice.
He ‘took it’ well.
Pride.
It’s insolence not courage.
Andrew bulldozed this bozo swiftly
Moody bible Institute should be ashamed of themselves.
What's the connection with Moody Bible Institute?
@ronlanter6906 that's one of the bible colleges he prides himself on going to.
moody and their professors have written publicly against him
Robertson graduated from there.
DL Moody would be ashamed the current admin there today probably wouldn't as wokeness has infected even most "Christian" schools.
God it's great to have all Christians out of my life.
OMG! Seems Brandon conveniently left out Genesis and all the successive passages throughout the Bible that condemn homosexuality. The Bible does talk about it being a sin several times.
Punishable by death and "unspeakable"
As a protestant, I am so sad that Brandan works for satan. I hope he repents and finds Jesus.
Respectfully, what is the reason you are a Protestant as opposed to a Catholic or Orthodox? And which denomination of Protestantism are you?
@@thealexsaugood questions! Are you Catholic or Orthodox?
@@thealexsau the pope isn’t infallible, which puts you in direct conflict with orthodox. And they left after seeing the stuff Catholics were beginning to acquire. Ancient pagan tribal festivals made their way into Roman Catholicism.
you are a follower of THE CHRIST or Not , every other Word adding to this Definition is praising "the club" you are in and Not GOD . The bible doesnt state any denominations .
JESUS is alive and you actually can hear from HIM you can have a real realtionship with HIM as a Person .Our salvation is near JESUS is near , GOD bless you all and pray for each other in JESUS Name amen
@@TheSibler Jesus Christ is the center of the faith, and salvation is through Him alone. Our relationship with Jesus is nurtured through prayer, the sacraments, and a life of faith and charity. Jesus Himself established the Church (Matthew 16:18) as a visible community to continue His mission on earth.
The Catholic Church is the one true Church founded by Christ, guided by the Holy Spirit, and entrusted with the fullness of truth and the sacraments. The Church's unity is not based on individual preference, but on the apostolic faith handed down through the centuries.
denominations reflect differing interpretations, but the Church holds to sacred Tradition and the Magisterium (the teaching authority of the Church) to ensure the message of Christ is faithfully preserved. The Catholic Church invites all Christians into the fullness of truth, while recognizing that those who are baptized in Christ are part of the larger Body of Christ.
God bless you, and may your relationship with Jesus continue to grow in love and truth.
This was a bloodbath 😅😅😅 but in fairness, Brandan is man enough not to rage quit unlike Matt the Atheist smug.
Both are Gai tho
He was a good sport. Wrong as he was
Matt is a lot more logical and had no shield of "love" to hide behind. So of course Matt figured out quickly he wasn't going to win perpetuating lies.
This was great, Jake! Thanks so much for getting this together and doing it in such a profesh but still laid back way. It went smoothly and also had good dynamics. I enjoyed the calls at the end as well, that was cool. Bran-dan deff lost. Jus because you sound kind and kno some vocabulary and studies, doesn't mean you can say incredible, crazy things. About halfway in, you realize Bran doesn't know what he's doing and will never be able to present a coherent argument. Andrew is the man! I appreciate y'all.
Having faith in something means you believe it. For him to say God may not be true means he does NOT have faith.
Define Faith.
@ I would say, faith is a belief that cannot be proven with tangible evidence.
The best thing Satan can do is to make us think he doesn't exist. Because then there must not be a god . This "pastor " only studies the NEW TESTAMENT.
You can say god may not be real and say i have faith that he is.
@@arkadisevyan My thinking is that saying God could not be real implies doubt. If he doubts it, then he really doesn't believe it.
When Andrew almost slipped and used the Tucker Carlson pronunciation of Don Lemon I spit out my drink.
Loving thy neighbor doesn’t mean you go along with everybody’s bullshit that is offensive to god to please people
Right we are here to please God not people ❣️❣️
You can feel the hatred coming from one of these " Godly men" praise be!
Brandon is the actual example for everything whats going wrong in our world!!!!
Greets from germany🇩🇪💙
As a conservative protestant, I very much want to assert that this blasphemer isn't representative in the slightest of the majority of us that adhere to the Word of God. I'm tired of these woke apostates giving us a bad name. I truly hope he repents from this evil.
The unfortunate reality of protestantism is the institutions are easier to corrupt due to being smaller and a lack of connection to church history. I'm also a protestant and these shortcomings do worry me especially in the US
At 1:10:00 this is where Andrew KO’s Brandon’s entire worldview. The entire 2 minutes he just unravels how morally bankrupt and empty his entire position is, and the one thing he leans on, the Bible, “might not even be true”.
This was a shocking thing to hear a pastor say. Straight up clutching my pearls when he said God may not exist. What on earth could he possibly be preaching to his congregation….
@@salamandercind2729He’s preaching about “loving and consensual relationships “. 😂 I guess he’s not for one night stands. How can they be “loving” it would be considered more lustrous.
@@salamandercind2729 these people want to see the world separated from God
Starting at this time stamp?
😅
I am honestly glad that Brandon did this debate. Usually people on his side really don't do many debates, they just do activism. Fortunately for the conservative side, when progressive Christians debate traditionalists, they don't go well.
Where did this guy get his theology degree? HELL?
😂
I don’t think Andrew has a theology degree
@@benmorgan9748and somehow he understands the bible better
@@benmorgan9748🤡
Lol
Granny: whn i die my inheritence shall go to Brandon
Andrew: granny left you $4m inheritence in her will
Brandon: the will is not active consent
😂💯
You'd think people would be prepared for the "dead body question" by now. How do people donate their bodies to science in Brandon's view?
@@donhill1825 the donation depends on Brandon's feelings on a particular day
@@smithjabi😂😂😂
@@rachel.wilsonare you Andrews wife? Isn’t her name Rachel Wilson?
1:00:21 the ultimate result is Brandonism. Because many people go through the same experience and some will have harm and some won’t! Harm is subjective. Meaning that the same incident could cause harm to some and not to others. There is not objective measure for harm. Trauma is relative to the person experiencing it. It is not absolute or objective!
My eyes almost popped out of my head when I saw the title of this video lol
This is going to be very interesting!
I’m not religious, but andrew destroys this guy
Same here man. I aint about to go back to church but andrew is hands down my favorite dude on the internet. Absolutely love how he can destroy these heretics and im cheering him on
@@muzien87 Why not go this Sunday? just to check it out.
@@KGBos because church is supposed to be on Saturday and born again evangelical Christianity is nothing even close to what Christ taught.
@@Merkangouruhh many evangelical churches teach exactly what Christ taught
@@markruby3916 and where is Christ's teachings found?
I wonder if Brandon knows that God will judge pastors more harshly than other believers.
I was thinking same
he doesnt believe in GOD, he belives His own delusion , i bet he doenst think that every human is a sinner or that He himself is a sinner. He wants to be liked by the world Not by THE AUTHORITY
Brandon does not biblically qualify as an Elder of a Christian church as he is living in and teaching un-repetitive sin.
I doubt he cares because he clearly doesn't believe in God at all, he has no business being a pastor
Get away from me, I never knew you
Accepting, sure. Promoting, no.
The point of the church is to bring people to God, to show his ways and guide you to eternal life with him.
Those who come seeking him must make sacrifices.
Its not our place to judge but his judge our life when we pass and except those who were babtised and led a christ-like life.
Brandan's entire argument is "i feel like it's right, it's right. If I feel like it's wrong, it's wrong". Absolutely no Biblical basis, absolutely no foundation or understanding of anything at all. There's no way to argue with a brick wall
Although Brandon got obliterated, I appreciate his patience and willingness to engage.
Mercy, that was brutal. Brandan kept repeatedly hitting himself in the face. I was cringing so much every time he actively contradicted himself, contradicted the Bible, or denied his own previously claimed line of logic when it no longer supported his given lie. This was like watching a 10 year old fighting to validate his belief in why his favorite fill-in-the-blank is better than anybody else's.
He could not answer the most simple questions so many times it was simply pitiful.
What did you think about all of andrews hypotheticals? Grandmas arm, trees, etc, I think he could have cut all that out. It was unnecessary
Wow
@Jeremy-wp4yh It's gross to talk about those things, but I understand why Andrew bring them up when talking about ethics and moral philosophy.
If people hold the opinion that morality is based on the harm principle then it's easy to craft a disgusting hypothetical that those principles can't account for, and they have no way of saying those disgusting things are objectively immoral.
It's worth understanding the shortcomings of having subjective morals. If morality is subjective, then it's merely personal preferences. No personal preference can be objectively more true than another. This means someone can believe horrendous atrocities are moral, and it's just as valid as someone who doesn't.
@@Jeremy-wp4yh you wuss
@@Jeremy-wp4yh you’re to emotional. When you appeal to emotion in a logical argument, it shows your lack of intelligence.
What a direct and correct... down to the last period first 7mins from Andrew !!!!
Funny to see Brandon have no idea that Andrew isn't Catholic and thus ALSO doesn't believe in the infallibility of the Pope.
Most protestants just assume that Orthodoxy is the same as Roman Catholicism. They need to stop doing that.
The pope isn’t infallible. So all religions are a path to God huh? You rely on man, not Jesus. The pope is satanic personified. Especially this pope. The most radical ever.
Credit where it's due.....Branden kept his cool demeanor and although I don't agree with him, I do appreciate how he conducted himself.
May God show him the way, and save him.
I normally don't agree with comments like this because it comes off as pandering because all honesty he was absolutely obliterated so plp like to say stuff like this just to be nice. But he was cooked so bad that i honestly was in shock he kelp his cool😂
Branden keeping his cool and being “nice” is all he’s got. This is his whole schtick.
@@PedroPeckerwood Not really. He’s typically pretty unlikable. It just so happens that Andrew is even more unlikable
@@benmorgan9748why because his facts hurt your feelings ?
@@RonBurgundy-xc7zg No, I agree with Andrew’s position
This was such a bashing it felt fake 😂 the first few minutes in andrew had him admitting crazy stuff
well he was trying to debate honestly
@@CalmDownJack And he is honestly blasphemous.
He can understand that homosexuality is an innate characteristic then as a “pastor” he should understand we are innately flawed and sinful by nature. And just bc we THINK/WANT/DESIRE something doesn’t make it right! The fact that he is spreading this hypocrisy as a “Christian” is absurd. This is a true example of the devils deception. Pray for this man and RUN!
Andrew just set him up to talk and he defeated himself.
What do you mean by "he defeated himself"? Are you referring to Andrew or to Brandan? I'd say that ANDREW was the one who defeated himself and quite noticeably. Andrew is embarrassing himself beyond recovery.
@@jasonegeland1446 nah, brandan lost this terribly.
@@rb9888 No dude, he didn't. You're mistaken and so are the majority of the fundamentalists making ignorant comments about Brandan on here.
@jasonegeland1446 You don't make up your own morals. God makes the rules, NOT you.
I used to be against Christian nationalism movement but Brandon has convinced me that we might as well have a Christian nationalism 10 times stronger.
Wait, did the honorable Reverend Robertson just say that talking about souls is beyond his paygrade?!! What a clown. Thank you for saying it out loud Brandan. Now leave those poor souls who would believe you alone!!!
Yes, he said that as a pastor lol. Crazy, right