This really helped. Same performance, FPS as before with my 2080ti but now completely stutter free! Love your channel and am so happy you're doing this! ❤️
Thank you for these tips Q8Pilot! I just set these settings and loaded up the sim and OMG!! What a huge difference. I was having pretty significant trouble with stutter and just wrote it off as MSFS short falls but now I have almost zero stutters.
you have no idea how much this has helped me. to the point I'd almost stopped using the sim due to 3 simultaneous pauses throughout flying, Especially takeoff and landing to the point where I was about to give up because tips from forums and the like although very much appreciated had no answer for me. This has fixed all my issues and I thank you greatly. If ever you decide to visit Australia I'd love to shout you a beer! Thanks again so much Daz
I have an ATI card. Yet, some of the tips in this video was very helpful. So, thumbs up for that. Because I don't care what GPU you have, this game has been the most challenging with graphics I've ever experienced! I build my own pc's and thought I was fine. I've NEVER had to buy a GPU that was close to a 1k. This game basically requires a car note payment on a graphics card or something to run it smoothly. Heh And I've been gaming since the Atari days! Still, a video like this can alleviate a lot of issues with just simple setup. And I knew this but just couldn't find the right combo. I've never had to go a file to delete things to get the graphics to perform better. I mean, lot of crazy stuff just to play a sim! Regardless, yours has been the best I've seen (and I've watched a LOT) that gets rid of the jitters! THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!
Tried this on my old PC and it worked great. I'm getting 20-25 FPS stutter free with an I7-4790K processor with a GTX950 GPU. Flew from JFK to Newark Liberty smoothly, very happy I came across your Video. I was about to give up trying to fix the frame stutter. Thanks.
my sim is now a lot smoother with those new settings, even at very high taxing airports, I am now excited to go to way more airports without worrying about shuttering. Thank you!
Those settings are great. Same fps, but my sim runs way smoother now!I also had the glass cockpit refresh rate set to high, which caused a lot of stutters on my system. Setting it to medium improved it a lot.
Hi, I watch a lot of your videos and this latest one has really sorted things out for me. I do not use the nvidia filters but everything else has really improved things for me. I never really got bad performance but there was always something niggling in the background as I always fly in VR, in particular when turning the nosewheel the scenery always had that slight lag. These fixes have cured them so I would really like to thank you for posting this latest one up...Thanks Q8 pilot
This definitely worked for me! I had to remove SimFX for extra frames but deleting the cache itself gave me at least 15 frames plus reduced stutters at landing. Thanks for the tutorial! Note : I have a Ryzen 7 5800X, RTX 3070, and a 32GB RAM. Had 25fps with massive stutters in PMDG 737 before but now I have 40fps with little stutters.
If you find that some cache files are not deletable, disable shader cache in the Nvidia control panel, restart, and they will become deletable. Then set the shader cache to unlimited, and restart.
Thanks for sharing this Q8 and I'm also seeing the same performance increase on my own RTX3070 rig. After following your guide. I also recently found out MSFS2020 was running beyond my PC 16Gb ram, and now I upgraded to a 32GB ram. Plus, I ws running MSFS2020 on a partiitioned 2TB HDD. Now in Jan 23 , you can now get av1TB NVME and SATA SSD for less that £80, I about a SSD and moved MSFS2020 on to it, to also give me a increase in performance and no more micro-stutters. Again, I suggest installing 32GB DDR memory or more to your rig. As well as moving or reinstalling MSFS 2020 on to a SSD, also helps a lot.
i was skeptical because ive never had much luck with improving stutters, but hopeful since it was q8 supplying the knowledge. it really did help quite a bit. i'm running a 3090 and 10850k (my bottleneck) and my stutters have seriously drastically reduced. i can enoy the a310 stutter free finally!
I tried for years any settings and tutorials that was out there on internet and with no success, I own 3090 and was furious how I can’t fly it smoothly but after this I can confirm this one is the one, thank you very much
The ALT F3 key was great my monitor was impossible to set the brightness even when i went into the Nivida settings. For some reason this worked very well.
Wow! I tried this for X-plane 12 and did it improve my frame rate? No. Did it reduce my stutters? Not half!!!!! What a fantastic improvement. Thank you Q8Pilot for a brilliant bit of advice. Love your channel. Please never stop :-)
As mentioned in the video, these tips will not work for everyone. They have worked for many including myself. If it didn't work for you that's fine, but at least I have made an attempt to better your experience. Thanks for watching.
@Q8Pilot the reduction in stutters is great! "Not half" is an expression in English (possibly just in the UK - so a poor choice of words by myself) to say basically a "huge amount". It would seem that these settings don't alter frame rates themselves in x-plane 12 (at least in my case) but instead makes the fluctuation of them far less of an issue making the experience much better. Thanks again!
Q8 Pilot, First and foremost, thank you for helping us with your advice. Results) To answer your most basic question, yes I think the stuttering improved and was almost fluid-though not quite as fluid as yours-to start off at KLAX with the A310. As I landed at Palm Springs Intl., I saw a few more stutters, maybe some artifacts in my medium-grade computer, picked up along the way. However, with issue to other things like lighting, color, etc. the image seemed less sharp & defined, and the color more washed out. While I was trying to follow your instructions as you gave them, I’ll note a few issues I came across, and number them down below: 1) I noticed my FPS at LAX was in the high-20’s, whereas I believe beforehand I was hovering in the high-30’s to low-40’s. 2) DISREGARD... other people asked about files being left over, so I don't need to ask it again. 3) Game Filter Settings (Alt +F3) won’t work. It says “A Supported Game is Required to Use This Feature”. I don’t know. I thought you said that the game had to be turned off before following your steps-which is what I did. I wonder if it wanted me to open the game? Well, either way, I couldn’t do anything you said to do in this section because of this. Again, why do you think it was displaying this message? 4) My NVIDIA “dashboard” (I don’t know what else to call the control panel), only recognizes my MSFS “game”, as “Game of the Year”. It doesn’t say it’s the “40th Anniversary Edition”. Why and is this a problem? It almost seems as though NVIDIA doesn’t recognize the latest version of the game, and I find that to be troublesome. And I say this because I don’t know if it’s actually making the necessary adjustments, if it doesn’t even know if it’s the right game. What are your thoughts on this? 5) My Graphics Settings in the Simulator doesn’t show the line, “NVIDIA DLSS Frame Generation”, like yours did in your tutorial. I run an NVIDIA card, why do you think it won’t display this line on my Graphics Menu? 6) A lot of what you set to ULTRA in your GRAPHICS menu, I set to MEDIUM, only because I don’t think my 2019 mid-grade computer, is as good as yours. Even still though, some of my results were a little on the lack-luster side for me. In conclusion, I appreciate the hard work you did to help the community. I’m just possibly in that small percentage of people, who your suggestions didn’t quite help the way I was hoping they would. But it did help the stuttering for a little bit-at least leaving KLAX. However, as I said earlier, on the Palm Springs arrival, they seemed to increase, and the FPS was actually lower upon completion of your steps. Maybe I’ll reset the GRAPHICS values back to the way I had them and that may help. Thank you again. 😇
@@OCX600RR GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 (3GB) CPU: Intel Core i7-8700 @3.2GHz 6-core Hope this helps explain some things. This was probably medium grade by 2019 standards, and now I'm guessing quite a bit of things surpass it.
Hi Q8. A remark about the anistropic filter setting - you set it 16x in the NCP, and then mention you could/should turn that setting to OFF in the in-game graphics options. But then when you show some demo performance footage, you also show us your ingame settings, and I couldn't help but notice you still had yours set to 16x. I'm assuming that's a mistake/omission?
I'm not Q8, but the answer is clearly "no." There are several other RUclips videos, and all point out that anisotropic filtering is much more efficient when done by the GPU driver than when performed in the sim. Therefore, in order to take advantage of setting it in the nVidia Control Panel, you must turn it OFF in Flight Simulator. If you leave it on in the sim, especially if set to 16X, you've gained nothing in performance.
These tips definitely helped me, thanks Q8Pilot! My system 4k, I9 cpu, 64g ram and RTX 4090..all running on SSD's Smooth as butter on ultra with your settings..cheers again.
Love it. Another video claiming to get rid of stutters with very clear and obvious micro stutters and uneven frame timing all over the place. Its baked into msfs, folks. Sure you can get rid of hideous pauses and bad stuttering and poor fps using expensive hardware and some good settings. But the micro stutters when loading in scenery arent going anywhere. In VR they are VERY noticable, and to a trained eye they are all over this 2d video too.
well i could not clean all files inside the 2 folders i get a message " the files could not be deleted because they are open on explorer". I m with w11
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Would be very interesting to see, how many FPS you get with the Fenix, FSLTL and without frame generation in the exact same situation.
That 737 looks so real flying over L.A... There were some slight stutters happening up close under the left wing but the rest looked great! Someday, a few years from now, hopefully stutters will be a thing of the past and we can fly at 120 fps. We are so close! Maybe the 5 series cards and new CPUs will get there? It would be so great if Intel were to integrate the memory into their chips, like the Apple M1, M2 chips do.
In my opinion it is not that much about graphics card but it is about optimization. It is not acceptable that you develop a game where CPU and GPU are used only 30% meanwhile the RAM is exploding.
Thanks for the tips. Hope you can also explain what each setting does as well as the pros and cons of changing those settings. Nevertheless, great tips.
You said you use this with your M1 iPad Pro, I have the 12.9 M1 and want to pair this with that so I can cast the iPad onto a 77 inch TV using game pass Microsoft flight simulator …is that possible?
Great video thank you Q8Pilot :) Recent changes to the NVidia installs have changed the location of the shader cache files which your channel viewers might like to know about.
wooow this actually worked butter smooth thanks man i appreciate it im running rtx 4080 32 gb ram 4000hz ryzen 95900x samsung odyssey 49 inch 4k ultrawide and it actually made my game so smooth thanks !!!!
I tried this out tonight with my RTX2060 Super and used all your settings. I was amazed. All my settings are now on Ultra and the only setting I had to change was Texture Level of Detail from 400 to 300. Frame rate is 30 fps but no stutters. I have just completed an approach and landing in the Citation CJ4 with no slow down or memory issues and using Direct X 12.
May I ask why you are using 300 with a 2060super. Even my 4070 can't handle 300. 200 creates stutter in some places. Worse case scenario you'll max out your vram.
Hi Q8Pilot. Great video. With all the updates, over time my sim had become a bit jittery. Thanks to your tips it runs like butter now! Looks great too. Thank you very much. 👍
Thank you Q8 pilot . You are the reason i purchased MSFS . I have a ASUS laptop( RTX 3050, 16 Gb ram. ) currently I get between 30 and 40 FPS the graphic settings in a high mode. I’m definitely gonna try this tomorrow. Thanks for your wonderful tutorial.❤❤
I have a few things to say 1. Do not use dx12 if you need fps. its experimental and can really impact your fps 2. I wish the title of this video specified for Nvidia drivers only considering i have AMD drivers.
The title suggests universal tips, but in reality it shows nothing but rtx 4000 series frame generation feature. Not even a disclaimer for Radeon GPUs. Its an nvidia specific video which focuses on shaders (no comparison shown)
The thing is, when you went to external view and panned the camera it went much lower FPS, so this isn’t smooth, if you didn’t have such high FPS due to hardware you would notice those as big stutters. So I don’t think those settings have increased smoothness. The FPS drops are still there, but because your baseline FPS is high because of hardware, they are kind of masked.
Your videos are great, and thank you for stating that some changes might not apply to all cases. If your computer with 13th gen intel 5.5Ghz and Nvidea 4090 and you have stutering, you are not qualified to fly a plane 😀 I have 4090, and I render in 6k all ultra and it is so smooth. Dlss frame generation is doubling your fps. I want to mention that I had some stuttering and moved from SATA Drive to m.2. Speed of SATA is 600Mbps and m.2 can go up to 7000. MSFS works heavily with much data, and fast storage access is a must while flying. I noticed, you do not use HDR. Any reason. With my LG Oled screen , HDR is next level. Thanks again.
just a quick thank you. These Nvidia settings eliminated all the stuttering I was experiencing, both inside and exterior look around. subscribed and will check some of your other videos.
Hi Q8 Piltot!! One of the best piece of advice ever! It really changed how my sim performs…. Just a question regarding cache … both Nvidia shade cache and MSFS Rolling cache… which is your recommendation for deleting them? Every once in a while?? After every sim session? Thank you so much!!!
Glad this was helpful. I recommend deleting them every time you experience stuttering. Also good idea to perform this after either an Nvidia driver update or sim update. Happy flying!
I believe I've read that shader files that won't delete are doing so because they're in use by another program. Other authors have recommended leaving them. I'm not sure which approach is correct, but until that's clarified, I'd leave alone anything that won't delete while MSFS is not running. Do you have any further info on that?
Thank you for the tips. What software do you use to show the frames per second in the top left corner of the screen? Do you think that the Nvidia 4090 is a huge improvement over its predecessor? Best regards Medaht
top video , i just make your 5 suggestion and will try tomorrow Which performance software do you utilize inside the video , i dislike those of FS2020 developper, is it settable (can select control check) says thank again to you for your shared out job to simmers community
@@Q8Pilot Why so salty? This is the internet buddy. Then don't make useless videos because not everyone runs the same spec and more than half the sim community uses a PC with far less specs . What may work for you may not work for something else!
My CPU rates at 4.7mgz. And I'm running a GTX1070 video card. FPS= 25-30. Pretty smooth. Not sure if new settings would benefit me. You have a pretty beefy machine. Appreciate your videos.
Very Grateful for all the tips! One question: In the presentation you stated that if we choose 16X in the NVIDIA Control Panel, that we can then turn off Anisotropic filtering in the sim. In watching your in-sim settings, I noticed that you had the Anisotropic Filtering set to 16X. I'm sure I'm not tracking on what you said to do. Would you be able to clarify? This is what I currently have: NVidia = Manage 3D Settings > Program Settings > Anisotropic Filtering = 16X MSFS 2020 = General Options > Anisotropic Filtering = OFF Is this what I should have done, or should I have Anisotropic Filtering to 16X in both as you appear to have? Thank you for any helpful response - I truly appreciate your efforts in behalf of the Flight Sim community! Happy Skies! Scott :)
my fps is usually more than fine when looking forward but it regularly drops by 50-60% when panning camera. i’ll try those suggestions. i’m desperately hoping they help!
@Q8Pilot right so wouldn't it be beneficial to turn off the cache so you don't build up or create more corrupt cache files? I'm not arguing I'm just logically thinking about this sorry if I come across poorly.
Qpilot, what zoom ( FOV) are you using? Also have you changed your Initial zoom in camera cfg. I remember the correct setting was 1.0 not the default 0.70. Have u changed any of it? Because we had to in fsx and p3d.
Ok this is the last AMD Video card. Nvidia does way more, and is more controllable. Tried this anisotropic filter. But when set in AMD control panel scenery stays blurry. However you have a mighty system, and run msfs2020 how it should be!
Thanks but the problem is usually not take off but landing. Most simmers experience problems while landing. Also once you use multiple monitors things might look different as well. Also I really do not recommend to set Terrain Level of Details to 400 and Objects Level of Detail to 200. THIS may definitely increase stutter for some setups. But hey will try your settings. Chapeau.
Great tips, please can I ask which programme are you using for the FPS counter with the CPU and GPU useage stats on show as well, I would love to have that on my PC to see where the bottlenecks are!
Thanks!! Will try these tweaks on my 13900K & 4090 today, where I have still been having a few stutters. Question; what version of KLAX were you using (if I missed it)? Thanks again!!
Hi Q8 Pilot, thanks for the tips. But out of curiosity before you did these steps, for somebody with a 13th gen and 4090, were you not experiencing "butter smooth" gamelay? Was the sim stuttery in this context before the tweak?
As someone with a 5950x (PBO Auto per core) and a 4090, I was getting trash performance with Ultra settings - and even below. 4k, 1440p, and few other sliders. Nothing brought it to 60fps, and I was getting more like 15-40fps. Annoying because GPU utilization was laughably at 20-40% and CPU at 10-15%. I checked out my per core CPU utilization and event HWInfo’s live look at more core clocks and while it was clear which was the main thread. The main threat was more like 70-80%, not pegged at 100%. I seriously think the “automatic” performance characteristics of this game needs examining but the first tip here is something I know should be done with DCS every patch: delete the shader cache. MSFS might have been more heavily impacted as the shader cache files I had sitting around would have been from my 2070Super. Maybe the cached shader programs still behave as if I had that hardware and made some poor rendering decisions in terms of GPU memory usage and (hardware) cache amounts. I haven’t tried what is here but I suspect the cache will be it.
Yes, I used to get occasional stutters and some jitters when panning. After trying the settings here, all is good. I had applied the same settings to X-Plane 12, and it is absolutely smooth as silk now. I though I would share this with the community since it has worked out so well for me.
Having a R7-7800X3D, RTX4090 and following the tools + for testing copied all your settings >>> getting extreme stutters when looking around! :( BTW ... I can only activate DLSS, when the "hardware accelerated GPU" option in Win11 is activated. But, in all other videos, they all say to deactivate that. oO
Note: Nvidia has changed the location of the DXCache to AppData\LocalLow\NVIDIA\PerDriverVersion\DXCache.
Cheers mate, watching this today and was going crazy
bro uses a 13th gen and a 4090 and says 'its buttery smooth'. But thanks for the help anyways. It improved the visual quality for me
Do try out the settings, many have reported better experience.
Even with the highest hardware out there, these settings still help out alot
As someone who has a 4090 and 13900k, it definitely does get stuttery in New York and Tokyo because of CPU bottlenecks
@@Q8Pilot I tried it and it made the performance very much smoother!!! Thank you Captain🤝
Rtx 2070 super here. I find that running with default is the best
This really helped. Same performance, FPS as before with my 2080ti but now completely stutter free! Love your channel and am so happy you're doing this! ❤️
Glad this has worked out well for you. Thank you for sharing your experience and for watching the video.
You lying
Thank you for these tips Q8Pilot! I just set these settings and loaded up the sim and OMG!! What a huge difference. I was having pretty significant trouble with stutter and just wrote it off as MSFS short falls but now I have almost zero stutters.
Glad it helped, thanks for watching and for sharing your experience.
Great video. But you also have a 4090 graphic card
Hey Bill, thanks for watching. Please do try this out. I have many confirming that those tips have reduced stutters on many other graphic cards.
@@Q8Pilot I will definitely try it out. I have a 3070
Cant remove all the DXCache files, tells me The actions cant be completed because the file is open in System
@@Q8Pilot true
@@DeltaTristar500 I have a 3070 TI and have an pretty good performance.
you have no idea how much this has helped me. to the point I'd almost stopped using the sim due to 3 simultaneous pauses throughout flying, Especially takeoff and landing
to the point where I was about to give up because tips from forums and the like although very much appreciated had no answer for me. This has fixed all my issues and I thank you greatly. If ever you decide to visit Australia I'd love to shout you a beer! Thanks again so much Daz
Glad this has helped. Happy flying friend.
I have an ATI card. Yet, some of the tips in this video was very helpful. So, thumbs up for that. Because I don't care what GPU you have, this game has been the most challenging with graphics I've ever experienced! I build my own pc's and thought I was fine. I've NEVER had to buy a GPU that was close to a 1k. This game basically requires a car note payment on a graphics card or something to run it smoothly. Heh And I've been gaming since the Atari days!
Still, a video like this can alleviate a lot of issues with just simple setup. And I knew this but just couldn't find the right combo. I've never had to go a file to delete things to get the graphics to perform better. I mean, lot of crazy stuff just to play a sim! Regardless, yours has been the best I've seen (and I've watched a LOT) that gets rid of the jitters!
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!
Thank you for sharing your experience. I am glad this has worked out well for you. Happy flying!
Tried this on my old PC and it worked great. I'm getting 20-25 FPS stutter free with an I7-4790K processor with a GTX950 GPU. Flew from JFK to Newark Liberty smoothly, very happy I came across your Video. I was about to give up trying to fix the frame stutter. Thanks.
Glad this has helped and thank you for sharing your experience. Happy flying!
my sim is now a lot smoother with those new settings, even at very high taxing airports, I am now excited to go to way more airports without worrying about shuttering. Thank you!
Very glad this has worked well for you. Happy flying!
Those settings are great. Same fps, but my sim runs way smoother now!I also had the glass cockpit refresh rate set to high, which caused a lot of stutters on my system. Setting it to medium improved it a lot.
Glad this worked out well for you. Happy flying my friend! And thank you for your support!
Hi, I watch a lot of your videos and this latest one has really sorted things out for me. I do not use the nvidia filters but everything else has really improved things for me. I never really got bad performance but there was always something niggling in the background as I always fly in VR, in particular when turning the nosewheel the scenery always had that slight lag. These fixes have cured them so I would really like to thank you for posting this latest one up...Thanks Q8 pilot
Thank you for watching and for sharing your experience.
This definitely worked for me!
I had to remove SimFX for extra frames but deleting the cache itself gave me at least 15 frames plus reduced stutters at landing.
Thanks for the tutorial!
Note : I have a Ryzen 7 5800X, RTX 3070, and a 32GB RAM. Had 25fps with massive stutters in PMDG 737 before but now I have 40fps with little stutters.
Enjoy!
If you find that some cache files are not deletable, disable shader cache in the Nvidia control panel, restart, and they will become deletable. Then set the shader cache to unlimited, and restart.
@dancingwilderness If I select to inlimited, will it slowly fill my whole C drive?
No
Thank you! With same FPS as before, now no stutters with my 2080ti!
Thanks for sharing this Q8 and I'm also seeing the same performance increase on my own RTX3070 rig. After following your guide.
I also recently found out MSFS2020 was running beyond my PC 16Gb ram, and now I upgraded to a 32GB ram. Plus, I ws running MSFS2020 on a partiitioned 2TB HDD. Now in Jan 23 , you can now get av1TB NVME and SATA SSD for less that £80, I about a SSD and moved MSFS2020 on to it, to also give me a increase in performance and no more micro-stutters. Again, I suggest installing 32GB DDR memory or more to your rig. As well as moving or reinstalling MSFS 2020 on to a SSD, also helps a lot.
This was extremely helpful! What a huge difference these settings made. Thank you!
i was skeptical because ive never had much luck with improving stutters, but hopeful since it was q8 supplying the knowledge. it really did help quite a bit. i'm running a 3090 and 10850k (my bottleneck) and my stutters have seriously drastically reduced. i can enoy the a310 stutter free finally!
Im on VR with a HP G2 and these tips definitely helped. Thank you.
I tried for years any settings and tutorials that was out there on internet and with no success, I own 3090 and was furious how I can’t fly it smoothly but after this I can confirm this one is the one, thank you very much
Glad this worked out for you. Thanks for sharing your experience and for watching the video.
The ALT F3 key was great my monitor was impossible to set the brightness even when i went into the Nivida settings. For some reason this worked very well.
Glad this was helpful.
Wow! I tried this for X-plane 12 and did it improve my frame rate? No. Did it reduce my stutters? Not half!!!!! What a fantastic improvement. Thank you Q8Pilot for a brilliant bit of advice. Love your channel. Please never stop :-)
As mentioned in the video, these tips will not work for everyone. They have worked for many including myself. If it didn't work for you that's fine, but at least I have made an attempt to better your experience. Thanks for watching.
@Q8Pilot the reduction in stutters is great! "Not half" is an expression in English (possibly just in the UK - so a poor choice of words by myself) to say basically a "huge amount". It would seem that these settings don't alter frame rates themselves in x-plane 12 (at least in my case) but instead makes the fluctuation of them far less of an issue making the experience much better. Thanks again!
Q8 Pilot,
First and foremost, thank you for helping us with your advice.
Results) To answer your most basic question, yes I think the stuttering improved and was almost fluid-though not quite as fluid as yours-to start off at KLAX with the A310. As I landed at Palm Springs Intl., I saw a few more stutters, maybe some artifacts in my medium-grade computer, picked up along the way.
However, with issue to other things like lighting, color, etc. the image seemed less sharp & defined, and the color more washed out. While I was trying to follow your instructions as you gave them, I’ll note a few issues I came across, and number them down below:
1) I noticed my FPS at LAX was in the high-20’s, whereas I believe beforehand I was hovering in the high-30’s to low-40’s.
2) DISREGARD... other people asked about files being left over, so I don't need to ask it again.
3) Game Filter Settings (Alt +F3) won’t work. It says “A Supported Game is Required to Use This Feature”. I don’t know. I thought you said that the game had to be turned off before following your steps-which is what I did. I wonder if it wanted me to open the game? Well, either way, I couldn’t do anything you said to do in this section because of this. Again, why do you think it was displaying this message?
4) My NVIDIA “dashboard” (I don’t know what else to call the control panel), only recognizes my MSFS “game”, as “Game of the Year”. It doesn’t say it’s the “40th Anniversary Edition”. Why and is this a problem? It almost seems as though NVIDIA doesn’t recognize the latest version of the game, and I find that to be troublesome. And I say this because I don’t know if it’s actually making the necessary adjustments, if it doesn’t even know if it’s the right game. What are your thoughts on this?
5) My Graphics Settings in the Simulator doesn’t show the line, “NVIDIA DLSS Frame Generation”, like yours did in your tutorial. I run an NVIDIA card, why do you think it won’t display this line on my Graphics Menu?
6) A lot of what you set to ULTRA in your GRAPHICS menu, I set to MEDIUM, only because I don’t think my 2019 mid-grade computer, is as good as yours. Even still though, some of my results were a little on the lack-luster side for me.
In conclusion, I appreciate the hard work you did to help the community. I’m just possibly in that small percentage of people, who your suggestions didn’t quite help the way I was hoping they would. But it did help the stuttering for a little bit-at least leaving KLAX. However, as I said earlier, on the Palm Springs arrival, they seemed to increase, and the FPS was actually lower upon completion of your steps.
Maybe I’ll reset the GRAPHICS values back to the way I had them and that may help.
Thank you again. 😇
What GPU are you using?
@@OCX600RR GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 (3GB)
CPU: Intel Core i7-8700 @3.2GHz 6-core
Hope this helps explain some things. This was probably medium grade by 2019 standards, and now I'm guessing quite a bit of things surpass it.
@@B3burner 1060 doesn't support DLSS unfortunately. And frame generation only works with the newest RTX 4xxx cards.
@@OCX600RR Thank you for answering my question #5. At least that explains it. Maybe time for an upgrade. :/
Hi Q8. A remark about the anistropic filter setting - you set it 16x in the NCP, and then mention you could/should turn that setting to OFF in the in-game graphics options. But then when you show some demo performance footage, you also show us your ingame settings, and I couldn't help but notice you still had yours set to 16x. I'm assuming that's a mistake/omission?
You are correct yes, it is a mistake.
@@Q8Pilot so should you have it turned on in game as well?
I'm not Q8, but the answer is clearly "no." There are several other RUclips videos, and all point out that anisotropic filtering is much more efficient when done by the GPU driver than when performed in the sim. Therefore, in order to take advantage of setting it in the nVidia Control Panel, you must turn it OFF in Flight Simulator. If you leave it on in the sim, especially if set to 16X, you've gained nothing in performance.
These tips definitely helped me, thanks Q8Pilot! My system 4k, I9 cpu, 64g ram and RTX 4090..all running on SSD's Smooth as butter on ultra with your settings..cheers again.
Glad it worked out well for you. Happy flying my friend!
Love it. Another video claiming to get rid of stutters with very clear and obvious micro stutters and uneven frame timing all over the place. Its baked into msfs, folks. Sure you can get rid of hideous pauses and bad stuttering and poor fps using expensive hardware and some good settings. But the micro stutters when loading in scenery arent going anywhere. In VR they are VERY noticable, and to a trained eye they are all over this 2d video too.
well i could not clean all files inside the 2 folders i get a message " the files could not be deleted because they are open on explorer". I m with w11
Would be very interesting to see, how many FPS you get with the Fenix, FSLTL and without frame generation in the exact same situation.
yes Fenix is the worst in my case
Without frame generation it is half the frames.
If you look at his setting which he shows you in the video, he is using TAA and not frme generation.
@@timrashleigh2984 If you look at his setting which he shows you in the video, he is using TAA AND frame generation.
@@timrashleigh2984 he is using TAA and frame generation, exactly the same as I use with my 4090. If I switch frame generation off, the fps halves
That 737 looks so real flying over L.A...
There were some slight stutters happening up close under the left wing but the rest looked great! Someday, a few years from now, hopefully stutters will be a thing of the past and we can fly at 120 fps. We are so close! Maybe the 5 series cards and new CPUs will get there? It would be so great if Intel were to integrate the memory into their chips, like the Apple M1, M2 chips do.
Dang you have good eyes! 😄
In my opinion it is not that much about graphics card but it is about optimization. It is not acceptable that you develop a game where CPU and GPU are used only 30% meanwhile the RAM is exploding.
The first and only real Game Changer tweak that really works for both MSFS and X-Plane 11/12
Thank you for sharing your experience. Happy flying!
Thanks for the tips. Hope you can also explain what each setting does as well as the pros and cons of changing those settings. Nevertheless, great tips.
You said you use this with your M1 iPad Pro, I have the 12.9 M1 and want to pair this with that so I can cast the iPad onto a 77 inch TV using game pass Microsoft flight simulator …is that possible?
Thank you Q8! Just improved my msfs2020 performance, much thanks!
Glad this helped! Thanks for sharing and watching the video.
Thank you so much for these tips, I fly in VR and these tips have certainly improved my fps and smoothness in VR.
Glad this has helped. Happy flying!
Great video thank you Q8Pilot :) Recent changes to the NVidia installs have changed the location of the shader cache files which your channel viewers might like to know about.
Thanks a million. Yes I need to pin a comment and update the video. Thanks for the heads-up.
Hi Guys, please can someone confirm where the shader cache files have changed too?? Many thanks 😉
wooow this actually worked butter smooth thanks man i appreciate it im running rtx 4080 32 gb ram 4000hz ryzen 95900x samsung odyssey 49 inch 4k ultrawide and it actually made my game so smooth thanks !!!!
Glad this helped. Enjoy!
I tried this out tonight with my RTX2060 Super and used all your settings. I was amazed. All my settings are now on Ultra and the only setting I had to change was Texture Level of Detail from 400 to 300. Frame rate is 30 fps but no stutters. I have just completed an approach and landing in the Citation CJ4 with no slow down or memory issues and using Direct X 12.
May I ask why you are using 300 with a 2060super. Even my 4070 can't handle 300. 200 creates stutter in some places. Worse case scenario you'll max out your vram.
That intro is on another level!! Love it
Thanks, I am glad you liked it.
Hi Q8Pilot. Great video. With all the updates, over time my sim had become a bit jittery. Thanks to your tips it runs like butter now! Looks great too. Thank you very much. 👍
Glad this has helped. Happy flying!
Thank you Q8! I also set MFS to "priority" via Task menu and that helps as well.
Thanks for watching, yes, this can help on lower to mid range machines.
+ msi utility and give gpu HIGH priorization.
I always find Sharpen+ to be a better filter. Regular Sharpen looks to be an old method of sharpening.
Thanks for sharing this information
Thanks bud, this has made a massive difference on my 3080/G2 Ryzen cpu in VR, instant subscription!
Welcome to the channel. Glad this helped. Thank you for sharing your experience.
There are some files you cannot delete in the dx folder, what about them.
It's ok, those files are held up by open programs. Just make sure your sim isn't running.
Thanks, Q8.
A very informative video with great tips, but the title is a bit misleading, should have mentioned it is for Nvidia owners.
Funny!! Im always late to the party on these fixes. Then when i do stumble on them, im not home to try out!! 😂
Thank you Q8 pilot . You are the reason i purchased MSFS . I have a ASUS laptop( RTX 3050, 16 Gb ram. ) currently I get between 30 and 40 FPS the graphic settings in a high mode. I’m definitely gonna try this tomorrow. Thanks for your wonderful tutorial.❤❤
Thanks for watching my friend, I sure do hope this helps you.
Did you make the changes? i have the same laptop only seeing this video today at work.
Never thought I'd see the day when MSFS runs better on my aging video card than X-Plane does... 😔
Thanks for the guide. Really does seem to help!
Thanks for watching and for your support. Appreciate it.
Works 200%!!! Congratulations afor another great tip!! Smooth as never been before! Thanks!!
Glad this worked out well for you. Happy flying my friend!
I have a few things to say
1. Do not use dx12 if you need fps. its experimental and can really impact your fps
2. I wish the title of this video specified for Nvidia drivers only considering i have AMD drivers.
Without DX12 you can't have frame generation.
dx11 really helps my pc run msfs better@@Q8Pilot
The title suggests universal tips, but in reality it shows nothing but rtx 4000 series frame generation feature. Not even a disclaimer for Radeon GPUs. Its an nvidia specific video which focuses on shaders (no comparison shown)
Smooth without traffic!
Thanks for the video. You turned on anisotropic filtering in the Nvidia control panel, and kept it on in fs too?
Wow, it worked wonderfully. Thanks, subbed!
It works very fine ! also in an old and low performing pc it delete completely every stutters.... Many many thanks Sir ;)
Glad this worked out well for you. Happy flying and thanks for watching!
The thing is, when you went to external view and panned the camera it went much lower FPS, so this isn’t smooth, if you didn’t have such high FPS due to hardware you would notice those as big stutters. So I don’t think those settings have increased smoothness. The FPS drops are still there, but because your baseline FPS is high because of hardware, they are kind of masked.
Try the settings then comment. Or read what others have reported.
Yep, it worked! Even on my (almost) potato pc. Thanks mate!
Maybe it could be interesting to do a script on the desktop who will automate the deletion process.
I’m hoping people will post “Nvidia” in their video titles so we can avoid watching when we have AMD based cards. You meant well.
Yeah, every time i see one of these perormance videos in my feed, all they talk about are Nvidia cards...
I will make sure I heed your advise next time.
Your videos are great, and thank you for stating that some changes might not apply to all cases. If your computer with 13th gen intel 5.5Ghz and Nvidea 4090 and you have stutering, you are not qualified to fly a plane 😀
I have 4090, and I render in 6k all ultra and it is so smooth. Dlss frame generation is doubling your fps. I want to mention that I had some stuttering and moved from SATA Drive to m.2. Speed of SATA is 600Mbps and m.2 can go up to 7000. MSFS works heavily with much data, and fast storage access is a must while flying.
I noticed, you do not use HDR. Any reason. With my LG Oled screen , HDR is next level.
Thanks again.
came from @twotonemurphy's stream! tips helped with the stutters for sure! Thanks much!!
just a quick thank you. These Nvidia settings eliminated all the stuttering I was experiencing, both inside and exterior look around. subscribed and will check some of your other videos.
Glad this has helped. Welcome to the channel !
@@Q8Pilot thanks ...and i forgot to mention i really dig the intro animation to your videos👍
Hi Q8 Piltot!! One of the best piece of advice ever! It really changed how my sim performs…. Just a question regarding cache … both Nvidia shade cache and MSFS Rolling cache… which is your recommendation for deleting them? Every once in a while?? After every sim session? Thank you so much!!!
Glad this was helpful. I recommend deleting them every time you experience stuttering. Also good idea to perform this after either an Nvidia driver update or sim update. Happy flying!
@@Q8Pilot Perfectly noted! Have a nice week!!
Thank you! Finaly something works for me!
Pro tip - If you find some of the shaders wont delete just hold shift and re boot into safe mode then delete them all.
Pro tip: shader cache can be disabled on NCP General 3d settings tab. It will fallback to enabled after every driver install
I believe I've read that shader files that won't delete are doing so because they're in use by another program. Other authors have recommended leaving them. I'm not sure which approach is correct, but until that's clarified, I'd leave alone anything that won't delete while MSFS is not running. Do you have any further info on that?
Thank you for the tips. What software do you use to show the frames per second in the top left corner of the screen?
Do you think that the Nvidia 4090 is a huge improvement over its predecessor?
Best regards
Medaht
FPSMonitor for FPS. 4090 is the best card in market today.
top video , i just make your 5 suggestion and will try tomorrow
Which performance software do you utilize inside the video , i dislike those of FS2020 developper, is it settable (can select control check)
says thank again to you for your shared out job to simmers community
Does this make any difference in VR? I always enjoy your videos, so thank you!
You kidding right? You are packing an i9-13900K with a 4090 cmone.
If you haven't tried out the settings, don't make useless comments.
@@Q8Pilot Why so salty? This is the internet buddy. Then don't make useless videos because not everyone runs the same spec and more than half the sim community uses a PC with far less specs . What may work for you may not work for something else!
My CPU rates at 4.7mgz. And I'm running a GTX1070 video card. FPS= 25-30. Pretty smooth. Not sure if new settings would benefit me. You have a pretty beefy machine. Appreciate your videos.
Give it a try
Worked wonders for me mate. Thank you!
Most welcome glad it helped.
As always, great tips and advice from a great flight simmer
Thank you for your kind words and for watching the video, appreciate it!
Very Grateful for all the tips! One question: In the presentation you stated that if we choose 16X in the NVIDIA Control Panel, that we can then turn off Anisotropic filtering in the sim. In watching your in-sim settings, I noticed that you had the Anisotropic Filtering set to 16X. I'm sure I'm not tracking on what you said to do. Would you be able to clarify? This is what I currently have:
NVidia = Manage 3D Settings > Program Settings > Anisotropic Filtering = 16X
MSFS 2020 = General Options > Anisotropic Filtering = OFF
Is this what I should have done, or should I have Anisotropic Filtering to 16X in both as you appear to have?
Thank you for any helpful response - I truly appreciate your efforts in behalf of the Flight Sim community! Happy Skies! Scott :)
You need 16x only in one place. Either NVCP or sim not both. In my video it is an a left over from my testing. Thank you for watching the video.
@@Q8Pilot Thanks! I’m always looking forward to your next help session! Happy Skies! Scott 👍🏻🎶
Great vid, Thx for great tips, works fine here!
Can you explain why forcing anisotropic filtering in the control panel is better than just switching it on in MSFS?
It provides much sharper ground textures. Try it out.
Nice and informative video as always.
What is your RIG?
With my i9 11900 k, GTX 30380ti, 23 gb I have 24 FPS...
This is PHENOMENAL! Thank youuuuuu!
Great video mate. Whats the app you are using to monitor temps, fps etc??
FPSMonitor
my fps is usually more than fine when looking forward but it regularly drops by 50-60% when panning camera. i’ll try those suggestions. i’m desperately hoping they help!
Setting "unlimited"....not sure, but will the drive (c) then fill up very quickly? Is 10gb not enogh? =)
So i did this, and I started getting much more stutters and lag than usual...
In the video u sed to set filtering to 16x in the nvidia settings and to set it off in msfs but u have it set to 16x in the sim.
1 question why not turn off the shader cache after you delete it? Why would you set to unlimited if the shader is what is causing stutters?
It is not the shader files that cause stutters, sometime corrupt shaders can cause stutters.
@Q8Pilot right so wouldn't it be beneficial to turn off the cache so you don't build up or create more corrupt cache files? I'm not arguing I'm just logically thinking about this sorry if I come across poorly.
@@ClinchRiverHomestead This will mean longer wait times as shader will be recreated every time you load your sim.
What a difference - you're awesome.
Glas this was helpful.
Using msi notebook 1660ti. Amazing improvement Thanks.
Glad this was helpful! Thanks for watching!
Hey man thank you. That was the best anti stutter tips
Thanks a lot
Glad it helped
Qpilot, what zoom ( FOV) are you using? Also have you changed your Initial zoom in camera cfg. I remember the correct setting was 1.0 not the default 0.70. Have u changed any of it? Because we had to in fsx and p3d.
This voice gets me every time!
Thanks for watching and for your kindness!
Ok this is the last AMD Video card. Nvidia does way more, and is more controllable. Tried this anisotropic filter. But when set in AMD control panel scenery stays blurry. However you have a mighty system, and run msfs2020 how it should be!
Awesome Information, as i have a medium computer and made big difference..Thanks Again !!
Glad this was helpful, happy flying!
My Nividia folder is empty? any clues?
nice and easy this how all Tips on youtube should be like thanks for this
Thanks for watching and for your kind words! Appreciate it!
This really helped, thank you!
Thanks for watching!
Thanks but the problem is usually not take off but landing. Most simmers experience problems while landing. Also once you use multiple monitors things might look different as well. Also I really do not recommend to set Terrain Level of Details to 400 and Objects Level of Detail to 200. THIS may definitely increase stutter for some setups. But hey will try your settings. Chapeau.
It should not matter whether you are taking off or landing. Most folks have benefited from those tips. I hope you do too.
Might Be getting a little more fps, like 5 maybe but im still getting stutters will moving the camera!
Thank you Q8 improve a lot.
Muchas Gracias esta funcionando super bien.
Great tips, please can I ask which programme are you using for the FPS counter with the CPU and GPU useage stats on show as well, I would love to have that on my PC to see where the bottlenecks are!
Thanks for watching! I use FPSMonitor.
Thanks!! Will try these tweaks on my 13900K & 4090 today, where I have still been having a few stutters. Question; what version of KLAX were you using (if I missed it)? Thanks again!!
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@Q8Pilot Thanks!! I, as well. Always have a problem with incomplete scenery when landing there, even after a short flt. No issues when starting there.
Your recommendations have resolved the stutters I was getting!! Thank you again!
Hi Q8 Pilot, thanks for the tips. But out of curiosity before you did these steps, for somebody with a 13th gen and 4090, were you not experiencing "butter smooth" gamelay? Was the sim stuttery in this context before the tweak?
As someone with a 5950x (PBO Auto per core) and a 4090, I was getting trash performance with Ultra settings - and even below. 4k, 1440p, and few other sliders. Nothing brought it to 60fps, and I was getting more like 15-40fps. Annoying because GPU utilization was laughably at 20-40% and CPU at 10-15%. I checked out my per core CPU utilization and event HWInfo’s live look at more core clocks and while it was clear which was the main thread. The main threat was more like 70-80%, not pegged at 100%.
I seriously think the “automatic” performance characteristics of this game needs examining but the first tip here is something I know should be done with DCS every patch: delete the shader cache. MSFS might have been more heavily impacted as the shader cache files I had sitting around would have been from my 2070Super. Maybe the cached shader programs still behave as if I had that hardware and made some poor rendering decisions in terms of GPU memory usage and (hardware) cache amounts.
I haven’t tried what is here but I suspect the cache will be it.
Yes, I used to get occasional stutters and some jitters when panning. After trying the settings here, all is good. I had applied the same settings to X-Plane 12, and it is absolutely smooth as silk now. I though I would share this with the community since it has worked out so well for me.
Looks great!!! But you have a hell of a computer that runs everything!! Can wait to try this on my much lower system!!
Do try it out, many are reporting significant improvements.
What software are you using for measuring the FPS in MSFS?
What software are you using for measuring the FPS in MSFS?
Having a R7-7800X3D, RTX4090 and following the tools + for testing copied all your settings >>> getting extreme stutters when looking around! :(
BTW ... I can only activate DLSS, when the "hardware accelerated GPU" option in Win11 is activated. But, in all other videos, they all say to deactivate that. oO