How to get better performance in Flight Simulator 2020

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  • Опубликовано: 20 дек 2024

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  • @curtisgoldin
    @curtisgoldin 4 года назад +1491

    let me save you guys some time.
    things to change in windows:
    go to game mode in windows 10, switch to ON
    in captures, make sure background recording is off
    in control panel, switch priority from real time to high
    make sure drivers are up to date
    in nvidia control panel:
    go to manage 3d settings
    global settings - power management mode switch from optimal power to high performance
    in same menu - switch texture filtering from quality to high performance
    in MSF 2020
    first:
    turn down object level of detail
    turn down terrain detail
    leave antialiasing on TAA
    next:
    water waves to low or medium
    shadow maps to 768
    texture supersampling to 4x4
    depth of field to off or low
    play with or adjust due to your system:
    bloom
    reflections
    texture synthesis

  • @chrisa8410
    @chrisa8410 4 года назад +5264

    I ended up just buying a Boeing 747. It was actually cheaper than buying all the components to play this sim.

    • @Oscar47474
      @Oscar47474 4 года назад +72

      lmao

    • @pr0xZen
      @pr0xZen 4 года назад +579

      I couldn't afford that, but I got a 2nd hand 737 Max. For some reason it was suprisingly cheap.

    • @jamesfield1674
      @jamesfield1674 4 года назад +23

      Best comment ha ha

    • @Lucian_Andries
      @Lucian_Andries 4 года назад +43

      Actually you can get it free at a scrap yard....... It's discontinued. :)))

    • @LoboLakerGaming
      @LoboLakerGaming 4 года назад +21

      Lucian Andries they’re not scrapped, they’re grounded. They’re all still sitting at airports, Boeing is still making them, and they are anticipated to be back by mid 2021 at the latest

  • @harmondaniels5108
    @harmondaniels5108 4 года назад +814

    The game is amazing.. You can almost smell the fuel and the engine noises are so realistic..
    Oh wait that's my pc.

  • @garyhoffmann1615
    @garyhoffmann1615 4 года назад +31

    I remember back in the 80's playing flight simulator with very basic vector graphics on a 286 with a green monochrome monitor.

    • @mmikerhodes
      @mmikerhodes 3 года назад +7

      Yep, I would ride my bike to the local library (only place with a computer I could use) to play the original (put it on a 5-1/4" floppy disk).

  • @Realthinx
    @Realthinx 4 года назад +115

    you know its serious when youtubers actually FILM their screens instead of capturing it😁
    havent seen that in a while

  • @SinPistones
    @SinPistones 4 года назад +690

    Anti aliasing? HAH, i'm short sighted so i just take my glasses off, boom, instant anti alias. No need to waste precious gpu cycles with it.

    • @MattiaFormichetti
      @MattiaFormichetti 4 года назад +21

      @@teilanittv this could be the batteries joke 😂...
      AA
      AAA
      AAAA😂

    • @A__T.
      @A__T. 4 года назад +18

      anti ale-eyes-ing

    • @kujiko88
      @kujiko88 4 года назад +13

      Blind people things.
      Tried this once. Worked great till I had to read something.

    • @TJ.85
      @TJ.85 4 года назад +1

      For real bro! But also for real I'm so blind that without mine it would be illegal for me to drive a car let alone fly a plane! Lol
      I think even with mine and having a 65" 4k/120 OLED I'd have to get within 6-12 inches of the screen and have my peripheral vision buried before I could really tell.
      It definitely has its negatives for sure but man does it make it easy to ignore the little stuff.

    • @imo098765
      @imo098765 4 года назад

      It get more more motion blur with my specs off and my depth of field settings go to extreme, so I keep it on

  • @DaymarusLV
    @DaymarusLV 4 года назад +45

    SO MUCH LOVE for this video from me

    • @gpk9993
      @gpk9993 4 года назад

      Victory from what?

    • @SlightlyDylsexic
      @SlightlyDylsexic 4 года назад

      What was your FPS like before? lol

    • @DaymarusLV
      @DaymarusLV 4 года назад +3

      @@SlightlyDylsexic like 35 above New york on high/Ultra, now its 50, and 33 in an Airliners.

    • @SlightlyDylsexic
      @SlightlyDylsexic 4 года назад

      *stares at FX-8350/1070* you hear that boys, don't even think about it.

    • @oz2742
      @oz2742 4 года назад

      i also have a GTX 1080, but the ti and Ryzen 7 2700x and i get 25 fps over NY. works for me cus everywhere else its 55 to 65 fps.

  • @Moon___man
    @Moon___man 4 года назад +202

    3:09 might be controller related.. MFS crashes for me 50% of the time I try to plug a controller/joystick in

    • @FeazesHero
      @FeazesHero 4 года назад +5

      loved his reaction though lol

    • @joeygreathouse3029
      @joeygreathouse3029 4 года назад

      Hahahahahaha that's so fucking broken

    • @GunMaster6542
      @GunMaster6542 4 года назад +6

      Yep, if my joystick calibration is a bit off and I unplug it the game crashes. So check your calibration before lauching it lads.

    • @SteelSkin667
      @SteelSkin667 4 года назад +9

      I've had the same experience, it absolutely hates controllers being plugged in and out while it's running and will almost always crash. USB connectors on PS4 and Xbox One controllers are kind of unreliable so I'm glad I'm using wireless.

    • @Braiam
      @Braiam 4 года назад

      That sounds like a problem that the Unity engine had where it would crash if you replugged the controller... so, which engine is MSFS using?

  • @Airtrooper719
    @Airtrooper719 4 года назад +19

    30fps locked at ultra is the new target for me, and i'll be super happy with that. For some reason flight sim always looks smooth at 30, unlike other games.

  • @kira.manaka
    @kira.manaka 4 года назад +445

    "Not everyone has a 2080Ti, so lets throw a 2060 in"
    >cries in 960

    • @hadesapocalypse
      @hadesapocalypse 4 года назад +2

      Laptop has a 870 haha

    • @mattiabontempo7843
      @mattiabontempo7843 4 года назад +4

      I have a GTX640 lol, struggling with fsx

    • @JudahMaccabee_
      @JudahMaccabee_ 4 года назад +12

      Cries in integrated intel chip

    • @GraceTheTDI
      @GraceTheTDI 4 года назад +4

      1060 3gb, just barely good enough to make u think u can run on decent settings, then it fucks u over with 35 fps

    • @udalix
      @udalix 4 года назад +4

      @@GraceTheTDI U get 35 fps in flight sim on that? Lucky.

  • @waldoppen
    @waldoppen 4 года назад +392

    I'm going to come back in 10 years to watch this again, laughing whilst my integrated graphics chip pumps out flight sim 2020 at 250 fps

    • @rroach8515
      @rroach8515 4 года назад +61

      You can try it now with FSX. Let me know how that goes.

    • @Dinara1up
      @Dinara1up 4 года назад +26

      @@rroach8515 can't do 30 with a UHD 630. yeah, technology is fast but not that fast.

    • @t_rimor
      @t_rimor 4 года назад +7

      Rtx 5090ti

    • @miguelcae4627
      @miguelcae4627 4 года назад

      R7 4700G could probably handle flight sim

    • @fredkibler
      @fredkibler 4 года назад +3

      @@miguelcae4627 so just imagine how much better a R7 9700G (if such a creature ever exists) will be

  • @Max-zw8vp
    @Max-zw8vp 4 года назад +680

    So I can bump my FPS up from 1 to 2. Good to know.
    I'm just kidding my PC can't run MS flight simulator.

    • @Jayztwocents
      @Jayztwocents  4 года назад +455

      You WOULD skoff at a 100% improvement... wouldnt you?

    • @Max-zw8vp
      @Max-zw8vp 4 года назад +69

      @@Jayztwocents Hey I wasn't complaining.

    • @blightstuff2629
      @blightstuff2629 4 года назад +22

      @@Max-zw8vp jay is just fucking with you

    • @angelic3276
      @angelic3276 4 года назад +3

      @@Jayztwocents ikr that's REALLY impressive

    • @whitewitchcraft412
      @whitewitchcraft412 4 года назад +2

      🤣🤣🤣

  • @ErikRedbeard
    @ErikRedbeard 4 года назад +72

    Never use Realtime unless it's literally the ONLY thing the machine has to do, which is never the case with games.
    It makes the game run at a higher priority than basic windows functions. You can get delays in sound delivery, frame delivery to the gpu and way more delays on an almost driver level.

    • @pewnice92
      @pewnice92 4 года назад +2

      ErikRedbeard been there done that

    • @relentlessspork792
      @relentlessspork792 4 года назад +3

      Ive used real time and live everything since day 1 and I havent had an single issue, and I have a mid tier system

    • @dennislp3
      @dennislp3 4 года назад +4

      Cool story but that's a lie cause that's not how it works

    • @GuyFromJupiter
      @GuyFromJupiter 4 года назад

      It also wouldn't see your inputs until the game gives the CPU a break to do it.

    • @Mario583a
      @Mario583a 4 года назад +2

      This: devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20100610-00/?p=13753

  • @Fogmeister
    @Fogmeister 4 года назад +201

    This is excellent. I have a 2070 super and was set by default to “high-end”. I was getting a super glitchy 30-50 FPS.
    I updated these settings and then was getting 80-90 FPS.
    Updated to “Ultra” and turned down the settings you mentioned and now I’m at a solid 60 FPS.
    Excellent. Thanks 👍🏻

    • @Nnexxxx
      @Nnexxxx 4 года назад

      Thanks for posting this!

    • @GAMEVIDSnorwegian422
      @GAMEVIDSnorwegian422 4 года назад +17

      I have a 2070 super as well and im sure as hell not getting what youre getting with these settings.. Still never getting more than 25fps... Amazing how the sim can be so horrendously broken for some, and working decent for others..

    • @caribbaviator7058
      @caribbaviator7058 4 года назад

      2060super is now averaging 45fps with these tweaks in busy areas in GA planes on 1440p helped me out.

    • @Fogmeister
      @Fogmeister 4 года назад +3

      The Gaming Norwegian I have to admit. The 60FPS was in countryside scenery and so it much going on. When I went to a city it dropped to about 30-40fps.
      I went back to high-end settings and it’s back up at 60 in dense places and higher when in countryside.

    • @ragunathc
      @ragunathc 4 года назад +1

      thanks for sharing this, i have same gpu as well.

  • @FreightDawg7474
    @FreightDawg7474 2 года назад +20

    You should do a updated guide on MSFS especially with 3rd party add on developers making study level aircraft such as PMDG, Fenix, and FlyByWire. And the same applies to add on scenery as well.

  • @damianketcham
    @damianketcham 4 года назад +465

    I don’t get all these comments about being “Early”. Is there some kind of award I’m unaware of?? Maybe a RTX 3080ti?!?!?!?

    • @ch3rok33jo3
      @ch3rok33jo3 4 года назад +21

      Just a weird yt thing

    • @ESPirits87
      @ESPirits87 4 года назад +16

      The only "early" comment that i use came from your sister.

    • @grim86
      @grim86 4 года назад +2

      yup you won! 3080ti otw to you now!

    • @damianketcham
      @damianketcham 4 года назад +2

      Grim Death
      Sweet!!!!

    • @damianketcham
      @damianketcham 4 года назад +5

      ESP87
      Yeah, she always said you shot your pistol off in less than 60s stud. 🤣🤣

  • @folcaljet00
    @folcaljet00 4 года назад +24

    Hey Jay, I really appreciated this video. I’ve been a flight simulator enthusiast my whole life since FS 5 way back in the day. I would definitely like to see you use FS 2020 to benchmark new hardware in the future.

  • @salehamini2036
    @salehamini2036 4 года назад +269

    I have intel hd 3000 and I'm getting 0 fps.
    Very smooth performance I have to say.

    • @y1817
      @y1817 4 года назад +2

      😂

    • @Mugicha808
      @Mugicha808 4 года назад +6

      Smooth as eggs.

    • @superbod.
      @superbod. 4 года назад +18

      You have fph

    • @y1817
      @y1817 4 года назад +4

      @@superbod. frames per hour

    • @mackymac5754
      @mackymac5754 4 года назад +9

      That's " PICTURE " perfect 😆

  • @SaltyWonton
    @SaltyWonton 4 года назад +1

    I have a 2060 Super OC Msi card and followed all of you're steps and have been getting around 50-55 fps in populated cities without turning the settings down from the 2080Ti settings you started using before you switched to the 2060 super! Thanks for the great tips!

  • @mattbrighton1819
    @mattbrighton1819 4 года назад

    Ryzen 5 2600x , Radeon RX 580 8gb, 16gb DD4 , Installed on SSD. 15 Hours played so far with average 53 FPS. Playing on recommended high settings and everything just looks amazing. 1 crash so far only , PC isn't even that noisy, seemed to calm down after playing it for a few hours! Didn't work on 1st install so installed again overnight and now plays like a dream.

  • @rikimbili
    @rikimbili 4 года назад +170

    When you get seconds per frame instead of frames per second

    • @0xS7
      @0xS7 4 года назад +5

      Just Brilliant! lmao

    • @RocketRoosterFilms
      @RocketRoosterFilms 4 года назад +5

      This is known as the late 90s gaming experience.

    • @bearwynn
      @bearwynn 4 года назад +3

      Seconds per frame is actually how you properly measure performance, ie 0.016 seconds (16ms) per frame is 60 fps

    • @rikimbili
      @rikimbili 4 года назад

      @@bearwynn Demanding physics renderings used for research are also measured in seconds per frame, but in this case the rendering takes several double or triple digit unit of seconds to complete which is insane

    • @sepkola9489
      @sepkola9489 4 года назад +1

      Rendering of the Lion King 2019 was 82 hours per frame so be happy with your seconds

  • @emmabentley7945
    @emmabentley7945 4 года назад +51

    Actually you do need around 45 minimum for a proper performance in Sims, I’ve been a developer for X plane for 3 years making airports. And enthusiast for over 20 years. If you drop below 30 you will have time delay issues. Also steam my name you will see the airports created by me.

    • @tgmjrtgmjr8221
      @tgmjrtgmjr8221 4 года назад

    • @iamjames8200
      @iamjames8200 4 года назад +1

      Emma Bentley oh hey! We briefly talked in a cpt Canada stream. Bentley gang.

    • @juliashenandoah3965
      @juliashenandoah3965 4 года назад

      30FPS is fluid but feels a little bit slow and laggy, especially when the sim has RAM-related micro stutterings and camera pan stutters when running out of RAM and VRAM. 45FPS is ideal in most games, but only the new high-end graphics cards will bring 60-100FPS with everything maxed out and new 4k textures and 4k shadow maps graphics settings which will hopefully get implemented soon in FS2020, because the graphics can NEVER be stunning and amazing enough!
      Are you programming airports for FS2020 too? I am looking for some beautyful ultra-detailed bush flight adventure airports in Canada and Alaska for Alaskan cargo freights with Cessna Caravan and stuff like that :)

    • @osuscyan3143
      @osuscyan3143 4 года назад +2

      Disagree, this only applies to online play. For actual flight simulators the FAA state that 20fps is the minimum allowed and 25 is recommended.

    • @desumoyo
      @desumoyo 4 года назад

      @@osuscyan3143 The FAA also said that the Boeing 737 MAX could fly, I'm not sure if we should trust them.

  • @CaveWaverider
    @CaveWaverider 4 года назад +76

    Try setting the Weather to Storm and time at night anf fly low over cities with lots of lights and see how much FPS you'll get, Jay. ;)

    • @biocomputers7076
      @biocomputers7076 4 года назад +6

      J has quad SLI 2080 ti's for petes sake

    • @rupertacuesta
      @rupertacuesta 4 года назад +3

      @@biocomputers7076 exactly lmao

    • @stevenswadel
      @stevenswadel 4 года назад +3

      Plus use a plane that has complex avionics.

    • @fred_derf
      @fred_derf 4 года назад +3

      @@biocomputers7076 Which would be a complete waste for this -game- simulator as even a 2080ti is CPU limited.

    • @MuhammadKharismawan
      @MuhammadKharismawan 4 года назад +1

      I’d recommend Athens to test super high density of auto generated houses

  • @nateweter4012
    @nateweter4012 4 года назад

    You have saved this sim for me. All I wanted was a solid 30-35 FPS to practice the approaches I shoot IRL, and until your vid, have t been able to. I have an i7 6700k with 32GB RAM and until yesterday, had a GTX 1070 but went out and got an RTX 2070 Super because I was so pissed at the performance. It was all the same, on 1080 res high settings I was getting 5-7FPS on the ground, 14-25 FPS in the air. Flying around densely populated areas and big airports saw it crash to 10-7FPS. I went in and changed the 3D settings to Performance and that was the golden ticket. It freed up everything. I can crank it to ultra now on 1080 and get a liquid smooth 38-45FPS (in the sim world, this is liquid smooth). I was about to resign to the idea that I needed a new CPU and RTX 2080ti or 3080 (when they release) to even partially enjoy this. Thank you!!

  • @YodatheHobbit
    @YodatheHobbit 3 года назад +22

    I would love to see an updated performance guide for this game in VR now. So hard to run it, SteamVR, plus an Edge window and OVR Toolkit for Twitch chat. Uses so much of my CPU. Highest FPS I can get is around 20 on low settings.

  • @prabhatgoyal9938
    @prabhatgoyal9938 4 года назад +246

    Jay- now you can add 20 fps to you ms flight sim.
    Me- yay! Now i will finally have 15 fps on ms flight sim

    • @sh4rpys
      @sh4rpys 4 года назад +14

      Waaait a minute..

    • @burnttamale
      @burnttamale 4 года назад +19

      SharpyS he was getting -5 FPS

    • @sh4rpys
      @sh4rpys 4 года назад +8

      @@burnttamale noshit

    • @88azturbo
      @88azturbo 4 года назад +2

      How many fps does the blue screen of death give?

    • @prabhatgoyal9938
      @prabhatgoyal9938 4 года назад +2

      @@88azturbo it have 1 fpm(frames per minute)

  • @ikkeheltvanlig
    @ikkeheltvanlig 4 года назад +6

    Perfect day. I finally realized I was on the 2 GHz net not the 5 GHz, finished downloading MS FS 2020, got my broken crap cooler to start working decently on my 10600k and this video came out. Thanks

  • @LeoNyeDis
    @LeoNyeDis 4 года назад +33

    Hope everyone is having a great day!

    • @burnttamale
      @burnttamale 4 года назад +8

      Thank you bro I hope you find 200 dollars on the floor

    • @jonathonk.5222
      @jonathonk.5222 4 года назад +3

      I hope you have a great day.

    • @Lordosvk
      @Lordosvk 4 года назад +3

      Hope you too mate. Goos day. Peace night. ;)

    • @Lordosvk
      @Lordosvk 4 года назад +3

      @@burnttamale haha.

  • @touchdownmike9002
    @touchdownmike9002 4 года назад

    1 update your drivers
    2 big impacts to perf:
    depth of field
    bloom
    reflections
    shadow maps
    texture supersampling
    texture synthesis
    then one by one:
    Objects Level of detail -> 100(high)
    Terrain Level of detail -> 100(high)
    water waves -> med
    shadow maps -> 768
    texture supersampling -> 4x4
    water waves

  • @Ron-cz8bt
    @Ron-cz8bt 3 года назад +3

    a few mins in..just wanted to pause to tell Jay thank you sooo much taking his time to help us all out. Thank you!

  • @ArrizqiRamadhan
    @ArrizqiRamadhan 4 года назад +51

    terrain level of detail 100
    objects level of detail 100
    water waves medium
    shadow maps 768
    texture supersampling 4x4
    texture synthesis medium
    terrain shadows 512
    ambient occlusion high
    windshield effects high
    depth of field off

    • @yoke155
      @yoke155 4 года назад +1

      i think you want my computer to explode

    • @anthonymanuelocampo6524
      @anthonymanuelocampo6524 4 года назад +1

      @@yoke155 LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @GhostbusterJeffrey
    @GhostbusterJeffrey 4 года назад +83

    Thank you! Now I can hopefully let my PC run smoother while flying

  • @11BravoMike
    @11BravoMike 4 года назад +8

    It was so fun watching this. It reminds me of the good old days trying to squeeze every fps I could out of games.
    The game may/may not be optimized but, it brings fun with trying to get max performance out of it. =)

  • @watchandjewelryloft4713
    @watchandjewelryloft4713 3 года назад

    Upgraded from an I5-4670K to a 5600x. Same GPU. GTX 1030 3gb. I can get 60fps in areas. Got 50fps close to the ground in Osaka. All over Manhattan, under 1000ft and 40+ fps. Pleasantly surprised. I have a 1070ti on the way though, and the 1060 will go back in the old PC. Can't wait to try it out again!

  • @DK_Answers
    @DK_Answers 4 года назад +2

    Thanks for the video! It was very helpful to see someone more knowledgeable than me talk through these tweeks.
    I have a Legion tower with an i9-9900 cpu, 32 gb of RAM, and a RTX 2070 GPU with a 2560x1080/144hz display. I found most of the suggested changes to NVIDIA's 3D settings didn't make much of a noticeable difference to my FPS, nor does turning Game Mode on or off in Windows settings. The most notable differences I found are in the sim itself. I have tried the graphic settings you suggested. FS2020 suggested during install that I run the sim on the 'High-End' level. I have tried 'Ultra' and tend to lose about 15 fps. I also gain about 15 fps over 'High-End' if I use all 'Middle' level settings. Dialing the graphic settings you mentioned to Middle or lower does give me about a 5 fps improvement.
    Two other things I have learned could be helpful:
    - I find significantly more stutter when I have 'Show Traffic Nameplates' turned on (in Traffic settings) especially if there are alot of other planes around, and
    - I find I can lose as much as 15-20 fps if I have pop-out windows open (to display menus on a second or third monitor). My second and third monitors really slow the sim down (they are also only 60hz). I would suggest keeping the menus on the main screen.
    Hope these are useful tips.

  • @akashnba03
    @akashnba03 4 года назад +168

    People here complaining about FX cards and CPU’s, I’m sitting here with not enough storage space.

    • @cytrus3427
      @cytrus3427 4 года назад +5

      Bruh just buy an extra 2000GB HDD and run it in raid0 ($55 USD)

    • @DerTou
      @DerTou 4 года назад +5

      *laughs in CoD*

    • @r1elyc3
      @r1elyc3 4 года назад

      same😂

    • @FirstnameLastName-mr8lk
      @FirstnameLastName-mr8lk 4 года назад +3

      @@cytrus3427 bruh why would he run it in raid0 like ye there are some speed benefits but then he needs to get another drive aswell and its not worth it

    • @cytrus3427
      @cytrus3427 4 года назад

      @@FirstnameLastName-mr8lk he never said how many drives he had, not even if it's a HDD or ssd 🤷

  • @djtaylorutube
    @djtaylorutube 3 года назад +7

    What I would really like is some options to configure dynamic degradation. For example, simple aircraft in low density scenery, Ultra could be an option but in high density scenery with a complex panel aircraft, some things have to be sacrificed. I don't want to have to configure one set of settings for everywhere, how about the ability to set my priority as to what to reduce first, to meet a desired frame rate.

  • @faridokimo7562
    @faridokimo7562 4 года назад +75

    Disabling Windows Defender everytime I start MFS helps me a lot with the stutters. GTX1660 9600K 16gb. I'm okay with MFS performance but it's not as smooth as XP11 for me.

    • @faridokimo7562
      @faridokimo7562 4 года назад +13

      Oh and also disabling the gamertags with multiplayer/live traffic gained me 15-20(!!)fps in busy areas. I'm sure Asobo will fix the bugs and optimization.

    • @Nathan_Jay
      @Nathan_Jay 4 года назад +3

      Well of course it's not as smooth as XP11, it's literally all autogen in FS2020!
      I'll def look at killing defender and the name labels

    • @DerekMoore82
      @DerekMoore82 4 года назад

      How do you disable Defender? Mine just starts up again.

    • @faridokimo7562
      @faridokimo7562 4 года назад +2

      @@DerekMoore82 Go to your 'Virus & threats protection' tab in windows security. Scroll down 'Manage settings' click on it and toggle off 'real time protection'. It'll automatically go on again after rebooting the system.

    • @faridokimo7562
      @faridokimo7562 4 года назад +2

      @@Nathan_Jay That's true but please don't get me wrong. I freaking love MFS and I'm very excited for the future of flight sim in general. TBH The performance is way better than I've expected with my system and the awesome graphics we get. It took FSX a very long time to get to this kind of performance on high-end systems.

  • @cardinaldriver
    @cardinaldriver 3 года назад +4

    Thank you Jay and team. Good researching and I never really messed with Nvidia game settings before. From 17-20fps to 25 with just that suggestion. Actually makes a huge difference in low altitudes and taxiing around my favorite airport , KFXE. Improved ground scenery also.

  • @cardinaldriver
    @cardinaldriver 4 года назад +1

    Helpful info. I'm sitting happy on high 1080 settings at only 32fps, but with terrain and object detail set to 120. The frames and quality of photogrammetry looks incredibly smooth on that rig. Great Job.

  • @ricardobarakatquevedo2124
    @ricardobarakatquevedo2124 4 года назад +25

    you can enable the frametime graph in afterburner to show us the micro stutters

    • @Andrei5656
      @Andrei5656 4 года назад +6

      or in dev mode in game itself, they can display a lot of info like what's bottlnecking, gpu or cpu and they color code every frame in a graph. its great

    • @SpeedRacer24X
      @SpeedRacer24X 4 года назад +1

      Andrei Grigore - How do you get into this mode to see this information? Thanks.

    • @Andrei5656
      @Andrei5656 4 года назад +2

      @@SpeedRacer24X You go in the options, general (where graphics are) then at the bottom there's "dev mode". You enable that, then a black bar pops up at the top of the screen. Then look through the menus as I don't remember which one has it, probably Options or Windows, and then you'll be able to select the frames or FPS tool.

    • @SpeedRacer24X
      @SpeedRacer24X 4 года назад +1

      @@Andrei5656 Awesome, thanks so much for you help with this.

  • @trailingrails9953
    @trailingrails9953 4 года назад +62

    “We’re going to go down to 4 by 4.”
    Me: [engages 4x4 on crocs]

  • @mcsvls
    @mcsvls 4 года назад +3

    In the last 38 years of running this sim, no new hardware has ever been able to run it full up at max frame rates, it is the same with every release. Due to the long cycle between versions, they build in graphics settings that will need to be stepped up to as new hardware becomes available. It has always been this way and is this way again with MSFS 2020. The sim does not need to be run at 60 fps to enjoy, just not 20 fps, somewhere in the 30-40 range is perfect. (not referrring to VR)

    • @SSChambers1
      @SSChambers1 4 года назад

      From someone with similar experience, I agree with you. 60+ is obviously ideal for any game/sim to be 'liquid smooth'. But for Flight Simulators over the years, 30fps+ is adequate for an enjoyable experience.
      Although, in my opinion, MS really jumped the gun on this release. It's still poorly optimized and has too many crash issues to be fully enjoyed.

  • @the_reaper1
    @the_reaper1 4 года назад

    Im blown away by this simulator, with fsx and xplane i could never manage more than 20 to 25 fps but with msfs 2020 after making these changes im flying around Manhattan at 100+ fps with an R7 1700 and 1080ti, cant believe it.

  • @evilmonkee42
    @evilmonkee42 4 года назад

    Pro tip: Set your Windows clock ahead, up to 1 hour. It tricks the MSFS2020 app into thinking it is later than it actually is and reduces load times to zero. 1 hour may be a bit too aggressive though and it can be reduced by 10 minute increments until there's no negative side effects like loading the game before you've even launched it. With this method, you'll also potentially see much improved fps, as it allows the gpu to pull frames from the future, up to the advanced time you set in Windows. This is known as Temporal Caching and requires the latest Nvidia drivers for Turing cards. If you enjoyed this tip, please consider donating to my Gofunkme account that I'm using to raise funds to buy bridges.

  • @MrPezzaaa
    @MrPezzaaa 4 года назад +6

    this is weird but kinda works for people. "in game press V to load up the VFR Map once up make that window to a pop window out of Flight sim, then minimize that window. and frames should jump higher

    • @RossFamilyVideos
      @RossFamilyVideos 4 года назад

      WOW! How have I not seen this mentioned anywhere else. Popping out the VFR Map and minimizing it almost doubles FPS in any settings scenario I have tested with.
      Some examples below. POP = VFR popped out and minimized and REG = VFR not activated or popped out.
      All testing done at KCPS 30L St Louis Downtown Airport, Broken Clouds, 9:00 A.M. Robin Cap10 Loop around STL downtown and Arch at 800 ft.
      I also let the game settle down for 30 seconds before noting FPS and taking off.
      *All test were new loads into area from main menu. If just restarted the FPS were better since things seemed to be cached.*
      1080P Low Settings, 150 scaling, Photogrammetry on.
      Sitting Idle on Runway: REG = Steady 46 FPS - POP = Steady 84 FPS
      In flight west to downtown: REG = Steady 36 FPS - POP = Steady 70 FPS
      Cross over Mississippi: REG = Unstable Dips as low as 12 FPS gets steady 25 FPS AVG - POP = Unstable, Dips as low as 25 FPS gets steady 55 FPS
      East through downtown and Arch back towards airport: REG Steady 35 FPS - POP Steady 65 FPS
      1080P Mid Settings, 150 scaling, Photogrammetry on.
      Sitting Idle on Runway: REG = Steady 38 FPS - POP = Steady 72 FPS
      In flight west to downtown: REG = Steady 29 FPS - POP = Steady 55 FPS
      Cross over Mississippi: REG = Unstable Dips as low as 9 FPS gets steady 22 FPS AVG - POP = Unstable, Dips as low as 12 FPS gets steady 35 FPS
      East through downtown and Arch back towards airport: REG Steady 30 FPS - POP Steady 50 FPS
      1080P High-End Settings, 150 scaling, Photogrammetry on.
      Sitting Idle on Runway: REG = Steady 32 FPS - POP = Steady 62 FPS
      In flight west to downtown: REG = Steady 24 FPS - POP = Steady 45 FPS
      Cross over Mississippi: REG = Unstable Dips as low as 6 FPS never gets steady 15 FPS AVG - POP = Unstable, Dips as low as 7 FPS gets steady 22 FPS
      East through downtown and Arch back towards airport: REG Steady 20 FPS - POP Steady 40 FPS
      1080P Ultra Settings, 150 scaling, Photogrammetry on.
      Sitting Idle on Runway: REG = Steady 26 FPS - POP = Steady 48 FPS
      In flight west to downtown: REG = Steady 16 FPS - POP = Steady 34 FPS
      Cross over Mississippi: REG = Unstable Dips as low as 2 FPS never gets steady 8 FPS AVG - POP = Unstable, Dips as low as 4 FPS never gets steady 12 FPS
      East through downtown and Arch back towards airport: REG Steady 15 FPS - POP Steady 30 FPS
      System Specs:
      Shadow PC, Boost Tier (Cloud based computer)
      Intel Xeon CPU E5-2678 V3 2.5Ghz
      Nvidia Quadro P5000, 16GB GDDR5 (Driver Version 452.06)
      12GB System Memory
      Win10
      SSD
      Internet: 1GB Down, 250MB Up

  • @ImHeadshotSniper
    @ImHeadshotSniper 4 года назад +98

    we live in a world where "i get 60 fps in Tokyo" makes sense

    • @muurrarium9460
      @muurrarium9460 4 года назад +3

      Next try the wind turbines in Nevada...

    • @hogey74
      @hogey74 4 года назад +1

      It's not like TV only better.

  • @torichianhifren3994
    @torichianhifren3994 3 года назад +4

    Gamers: ugh im running at 90 fps
    Flight Simmers:
    Sir i beg of you may i please have another frame?

  • @andybrockbank3027
    @andybrockbank3027 4 года назад

    I have a RTX2060 Super and Render Scaling at 200 smashed my frame rates to single digits. When I changed from RS 200 to RS 100 over New York City framerates were in the mid 20's. All the other tweaks slightly improved the framerates and that is a happy place for me.

  • @frankiescra
    @frankiescra 4 года назад

    I was running it at "High.end" with a r5 3600 and a rx 5700 with 16 gb ddr4 3000m mhz. Thanks to this video I can run it at ultra. Really useful, thanks a lot.

  • @ViniciusRozario
    @ViniciusRozario 4 года назад +14

    I've got a 20% fps improvement by reducing volumetric clouds from ultra to high! (GTX 1070, i7 7700k)

  • @holobolo1661
    @holobolo1661 3 года назад +4

    Why do you recommend turning game mode on? Everything else I read on the internet says to turn it off.

    • @Dxsirzs
      @Dxsirzs 3 года назад +1

      Makes games have a higher performance response

  • @thelazyduck9370
    @thelazyduck9370 4 года назад +12

    I'd recommend setting GPU Power management mode in global settings to Adaptive.
    There's shouldn't be any change in performance, and instead of staying at base clocks when idle, the GPU downclocks. Changing from Maximum Performance to Adaptive yielded me the same performance, and idle temps went from 44C to 31C
    If it makes a big difference in performance for FS2020, perhaps just set it to run Maximum Performance only when FS2020 is launched under program settings.

    • @Sim737Pilot
      @Sim737Pilot 4 года назад

      44C is still perfectly reasonable. It's when you start pushing close to 80c and above you don't want to remain there.

    • @thelazyduck9370
      @thelazyduck9370 4 года назад +1

      @@Sim737Pilot Still made a noticeable impact on the ambient temperature of my room, when just watching RUclips though. I'd guess like 3c cooler room after some time, if I have my door closed.

  • @Aleksandar6ix
    @Aleksandar6ix 4 года назад

    I have 10700k with a 1070 and 32gb ram. I never checked my frames, but I am running smooth on ultra preset around the greater Toronto area in 1080p. Your cards simply allow higher resolution for the same performance.

  • @ericandi
    @ericandi 4 года назад

    Saw a fix a reddit that has given lots of people amazing results. The issue they discovered is that by prioritizing MSFS in your system, it’s using up all the CPU and some background processes that the sim needs to run properly are getting squeezed out and that’s causing the sim to freeze and stutter. The fix includes changing the processor scheduling to “background processes” instead of “programs”. Also download the app called “Process Lasso”. Open Process Lasso and doable ProBalance in the settings. Now open MSFS can start a flight. Flying around for a few minutes and get a feel for the amount of stuttering and see what your FPS is averaging. Now Pause your flight and hit the Windows button on your keyboard to switch back to the Process Lasso app.
    In the Process Lasso app locate FlIghtSimulator.exe and right click. Then disable “Windows Dynamic thread priority boosts” for FlIghtSimulator.exe. Do not do this last step unless you already have MSFS running and you’re in a flight. Now keep Process Lasso running and switch back to MSFS. Unpause your flight and see if the stuttering is better and if your getting higher fps.
    Unfortunately you will have to follow these steps every time you want to use MSFS because the settings you changed in Process Lasso for MSFS will revert after you close MSFS.
    Here the whole fix in Reddit: www.reddit.com/r/flightsim/comments/ifle4x/huge_performance_booststutter_reduction_by/?
    And here’s another related fix for how to change your “Processor Scheduling” from “programs” to “Backgrounds Processes”: www.reddit.com/r/flightsim/comments/idmdqq/update_msfs_2020_stuttering_when_window_focused/?
    Both of these fixes actually deprioritize MSFS on your PC and prioritize background processes, but amazingly tons of people have had incredible improvement to the stability of MSFS with much less stuttering and freezing and much higher FPS after making the changes recommended in these Reddit posts. Good luck!

  • @crystalthewolf8945
    @crystalthewolf8945 4 года назад +27

    Interesting how you're saying to turn game mode on and everything else I've seen has said to turn it off

    • @christophervanzetta
      @christophervanzetta 4 года назад +5

      That's old news as it was buggy

    • @roppongiful
      @roppongiful 4 года назад +6

      I tried msf 2020 with game mode on and off, and on my PC absolutely nothing changes. Same for the new GPU scheduler.

    • @neurokinetik64ES
      @neurokinetik64ES 4 года назад

      Yeah, I've seen that in the DCS World optimizations specifically.

    • @justask305
      @justask305 4 года назад +2

      Are you sure they weren't talking about Microsoft game mode?

    • @rochatra
      @rochatra 4 года назад

      I got improvements(small but still) by turning it off

  • @isaaclarson
    @isaaclarson 4 года назад +23

    Me watching this and seeing all my settings are already lower than what you're moving yours to :(.

  • @james59
    @james59 4 года назад +3

    Nearly doubled my frame rate. So a massive thanks!
    I run a 9900k with 32gb of ram at 3600mhz and a 1080ti. All storage drives are nvme.
    I have a 1440p screen and was getting 30-40 fps. Now I'm up to 60-70, and it's much more consistent.

  • @climb2bhi
    @climb2bhi 4 года назад

    Don't forget that the Vehicles category under General Settings has a big effect on framerates. Turning up or down the number of planes (parked and AI), boats, and cars makes a big change on FPS.

  • @QcDiablo
    @QcDiablo 4 года назад

    Ambient Occlusion is also a big fps killer in most games.
    If you can handle not having contact shadows I'd suggest turning it off if you want better performances.

  • @SidangGrandWisataEntertainment
    @SidangGrandWisataEntertainment 4 года назад +5

    Ahh i remember so frustrated searching fsx lag fix like everyday in 2011. And now time has change

    • @gemster18
      @gemster18 3 года назад

      Funny thing is.. I'm getting 60fps. Now with FSX.😁 RYSEN 9 5900 & RX3070 GPU

  • @eldadisrael4455
    @eldadisrael4455 4 года назад +43

    Try run the sim at night in new york. That's the REAL test.

  • @antipainK
    @antipainK 4 года назад +6

    Wow, thanks to those tips I got myself to steady "Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 is not responding" :))

    • @Sim737Pilot
      @Sim737Pilot 4 года назад +1

      Turn your realtime setting down to high.

  • @BigSouthProductions
    @BigSouthProductions 4 года назад

    Following these steps got me about a 15-20fps boost. Thanks Jay.

  • @RevAllan333
    @RevAllan333 4 года назад

    Thanks a lot. I am still with the old FSX but plan to move to 2020 soon. I will buy a new system first. Might wait for a 6 months or a year so that system is just ... less expensive. Good to see the 2060 at work as well. Of all of the folks who review and show us how to make 2020 work, you are the best. You explain it all very well.

  • @jeffbeasley8235
    @jeffbeasley8235 4 года назад +6

    I've never seen anyone recommend turning (windows) game mode on.
    Jay: have you measured that this actually has an impact on performance?

    • @DerTou
      @DerTou 4 года назад +6

      Seems like he just changes a bunch of settings at once, so he can't really track the impact of each setting. I don't like this unstructured approach.

    • @Sim737Pilot
      @Sim737Pilot 4 года назад

      @@DerTou Watch this instead- more methodical. ruclips.net/video/0Tka4CUeIwE/видео.html

  • @michaelb4727
    @michaelb4727 4 года назад +5

    I noticed a similar crash when I slightly disconnected my controller’s cable, could be what happened at the beginning of the video.

  • @Mr.President
    @Mr.President 4 года назад +14

    I would be very happy with those 40 fps from the beginning xD

  • @jayvlogsuk
    @jayvlogsuk 4 года назад +2

    This is actually really useful information! i used a bit of your previous Flight Sim footage in a spec detail and game review (hope you don't mind) it shows i might be able to run this myself if i bite the bullet and buy the game! Love the content as usual!

  • @curtispechacek1814
    @curtispechacek1814 4 года назад

    YES, YOU ARE THE MANNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!! You can talk so fast and spit out product numbers so fast that nobody can understand you!!!!!!!

  • @MineMiguel40
    @MineMiguel40 4 года назад +10

    3:13
    OH MY GOD LOOK AT THOSE (what i think are) THREADS

    • @FluffyPuppyKasey
      @FluffyPuppyKasey 4 года назад

      Yeah, the 3950x is a beefy chip

    • @joebates640
      @joebates640 4 года назад +2

      More threads than my shirt

    • @Case_
      @Case_ 4 года назад

      And completely wasted on MSFS which needs like 6-7 threads overall (don't look at the CPU usage numbers, they don't tell you anything). But that goes for the vast majority of games.

    • @jdshemp
      @jdshemp 4 года назад

      @@FluffyPuppyKasey cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-9900K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-9-3950X/4028vs4057

    • @Saaurier
      @Saaurier 4 года назад

      @@jdshemp lmao why TF would you compare a 9900k to a 3950x? The coffee lake refresh chips were all shit too with the horrible thermal performance due to a shitty IHS/Die solder and just immaturity in general. Comet lake is so much nicer lol, 10600k and 3200mhz cl14 ram might be the sweetspot for msfs.

  • @Dyils
    @Dyils 4 года назад +10

    "Don't need a lot of FPS"
    *Triple monitor and VR setups:* "Am I a joke to you?"

  • @bianconiautomobili
    @bianconiautomobili 4 года назад +16

    me: ok this is simple as that let's put down my shadows settings to try to get more fps !
    my shadows settings: *ultra low quality*
    me : ah shit

  • @Evan-bv8bh
    @Evan-bv8bh 3 года назад

    @6:40. You can change NVIDIA setting for individuals applications, like MS flight simulator.

  • @Kiwi_Dave
    @Kiwi_Dave 4 года назад

    If you have a decent rig and 32GB Ram Just place everything on High, Clouds to Ultra (because they are so awesome) and change.
    Texture Supersampling: 2x2
    Shadow Maps: 768
    Terrain Shadow: 256
    40fps everywhere no stuttering.

  • @zaynetech6538
    @zaynetech6538 4 года назад +60

    We're just being lazy - JayzTwoCents 2019
    We're just lazy - JayzTwoCents 2020

    • @kujiko88
      @kujiko88 4 года назад +7

      Just lazy - JayzTwoCents 2021

    • @drewmalbica7694
      @drewmalbica7694 4 года назад +7

      Jayztwocents 2022 Lazy

    • @vocorus598
      @vocorus598 4 года назад +4

      @@drewmalbica7694 Jayztwocents 2023 ...

    • @SomeNot
      @SomeNot 4 года назад +10

      We’re lazy - JayzTwoCents 2021
      We lazy - JayzTwoCents 2022
      Lazy - JayzTwoCents 2023
      - JayzTwoCents 2024

  • @EriIaz
    @EriIaz 3 года назад +6

    "It's hard to run because of some bad optimizations"
    FSX: allow me to introduce myself ;D

  • @BronzeOnionRacing
    @BronzeOnionRacing 4 года назад +16

    All I heard was "Next month when new stuff comes out".

    • @supernova9721
      @supernova9721 4 года назад

      Get a deal on 2080ti when 3090 is out.

    • @CakePrincessCelestia
      @CakePrincessCelestia 4 года назад

      @@muckymucks A steal. I heard it was going to be around 2k.

  • @GrantOberhauser
    @GrantOberhauser 4 года назад

    I tried all of these changes with an RTX 2060 Super and an i7 9700K and I'm getting 45 FPS over Manhattan doing the little circles like you. Thanks for the tips!

  • @Kpeters
    @Kpeters 4 года назад +1

    Texture synthesis can be really low as it only affects patches of terrain where there is no imagery. Also I have object detail at about 50 and very low air,land and sea traffic. That one helped a lot.

  • @ericthedesigner
    @ericthedesigner 4 года назад +15

    Also Something interesting I found out, When I run the SIM, my gpu is not maxed at all, but when I minimize the SIM window my GPU gets pinned at 99 percent... Interesting to say the least

    • @lukestover2157
      @lukestover2157 4 года назад +3

      Same, happened during my installation. Didn't realize until after I came back...17 hours later.

  • @Mrazgoodaz
    @Mrazgoodaz 4 года назад +4

    9:48 Go load in Online with a busy Airport ;)

  • @offstyler
    @offstyler 4 года назад +7

    What was he trying to tell us by flying through the New York skyline?

  • @matthewhoey3058
    @matthewhoey3058 4 года назад +2

    it seems that you have the same issue as me, 3:01, when you unplug a controller and it connects again, the game always seems to crash for me. (as he picked it up he must've tugged the cable, disconnecting it)

  • @teufeltuna1956
    @teufeltuna1956 4 года назад

    Increasing the game cache really helps, the more juice you can give it the better the over all experience.

  • @simmonsjoe
    @simmonsjoe 4 года назад +8

    "... get mad at Microsoft. Don't get mad at me." - Jay
    Oh jay, we're always mad at you.

    • @CakePrincessCelestia
      @CakePrincessCelestia 4 года назад +1

      Me: always mad at Microsoft since they can't get their messy OS out of open pre-alpha and they won't bring new FFB sticks for FS :D

  • @andysim232
    @andysim232 4 года назад +11

    My 3dfx Voodoo is really struggling with this title

  • @jawsofwar
    @jawsofwar 4 года назад +13

    Microsoft Simulator always releases with where most pc's can't handle everything at max settings. Future tech I guess.
    MSFS 2020 will now be on everyone's benchbark :D

    • @ZheikoNileth
      @ZheikoNileth 4 года назад +3

      I don't know what is this nonsense everyone is talking about, I play on ultra on 2k resolution with rtx 2070 and 4770k and get 35fps, and it is smooth as butter. There are games where I can't live with less than 120fps,and then there is this, where 35fps flying in Cessna around world is just fine

    • @jawsofwar
      @jawsofwar 4 года назад +2

      @@ZheikoNileth maybe 35 fps for you is fine, but 35fps is pretty low for my tastes. And I will agree that MSFS 2020 looks stunning visually. You cannot argue that this Sim is very demanding which is my point. Higher frames makes controlling the aircraft feel more responsive. Jay getting the game to have 50-60fps is great!

    • @777RY
      @777RY 4 года назад +1

      @@jawsofwar all flight sims are demanding

    • @ZheikoNileth
      @ZheikoNileth 4 года назад +1

      I am coming from racing sim, so I know exactly what you mean by having more response. Having ffb steering wheel running on game that runs on 30fps vs 120fps is massive difference, but with planes, unless you are doing acrobatics, you need a slow and steady smál inputs anyways, right?

    • @jawsofwar
      @jawsofwar 4 года назад

      Zheiko Nileth depends on what you are doing, playable yes but more frames do make it easier. Especially for certain complicated instrument approaches with windy conditions etc.

  • @J4NGL3
    @J4NGL3 4 года назад +1

    Ok, I see why you have so many subs. What a great useful video. Saved me heaps of messing around trying to figure this stuff out. Thanks guys!

  • @Matt43
    @Matt43 4 года назад +2

    Excellent tips for tuning any game, thanks Jay & Phil!

  • @royevans4581
    @royevans4581 4 года назад +3

    Thanks for solving the problem. I'll just video cam my screen and watch the sim through that lol.

  • @DeejaySpandex
    @DeejaySpandex 4 года назад +6

    First time I have ever been recommended to turn ON game mode.

    • @DeejaySpandex
      @DeejaySpandex 4 года назад

      @BotPlayerLegacy nope. zero difference for me.

  • @0c3An50uL
    @0c3An50uL 4 года назад +7

    Its so funny: The Company behind DirectX12 uses DirectX11 API in his newest Game-release. NICE!

    • @storkman
      @storkman 4 года назад

      Microsoft isn't the developer only publisher. Asobo is developer

    • @0c3An50uL
      @0c3An50uL 4 года назад

      @@storkman Not really. Asobo is only one part of the devs. Microsofts own studios were also a big part of the development (Xbox Game Studios). And Microsoft itself is still the most important factor in the process (thats why its called MICROSOFT Flight Simulator at all).

    • @DragonNexus
      @DragonNexus 4 года назад +1

      I'm fairly certain DX12 support is coming later along with VR support.

  • @chaospheremediagroup9673
    @chaospheremediagroup9673 4 года назад

    Subscribed...! The absolute BEST tutorial for optimizing MSFS 2020, how to to with driver setting, and and how to properly OC your Graphics Card so that it holds the boost speed, and everything all between to make your experience enjoyable...!

  • @VanishingImage
    @VanishingImage 4 года назад

    Yea I'm not sure why people are complaining about FPS. My Asus 2060 is getting 80 with settings auto set by the simulator. Game still looks great. I will go in and tweak with what Jay did and see how it looks. Just mess with settings!!

  • @omnislash9436
    @omnislash9436 4 года назад +4

    How would you do this with Radeon?

  • @blightstuff2629
    @blightstuff2629 4 года назад +8

    i love when people comment before the video even starts lol.
    wait. i do that. 🤫

    • @awilliams1701
      @awilliams1701 4 года назад +1

      sometimes I do and sometimes I don't. If I change my mind for any reason I'll put an edit notation on my comment.

    • @blightstuff2629
      @blightstuff2629 4 года назад +1

      @@awilliams1701 lol

  • @Overfiend619
    @Overfiend619 4 года назад +4

    sweet i made it early, thanks for the tips!

  • @WoodyGamesUK
    @WoodyGamesUK 3 года назад

    The reason that fps in flight sims is very forgiving is that you don't have objects that move at high speed relative to the screen (since you are high up and everything is far away so moves slowly). The horizon moves and rotates relatively slowly too, whatever you do.

  • @jesusfreak7777
    @jesusfreak7777 3 года назад +1

    i just bought a pc with a i7 10700 k, 750 power supply, 16gigs 3200mhz ram. Asus prime Z490 wifi. Nvidia RTX 3070 Ti. I hope flight simulator runs well on it.