The Right-Wing Latinos of Miami: Proud Boys and Refugees
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- Опубликовано: 8 май 2024
- The Latino demographic in the US has long been seen as a fixture of the Democratic party, especially in light of the immigration controversy on the Southern border. However, in the coastal city of Miami, Cuban exiles and their descendants - and more recently, Venezuelan refugees - are defying this trend. Many embrace Trump for his denouncement of Socialism & his tough stance on immigration, despite its profound impact on fellow Hispanics.
VICE went South Florida to embed with both Venezuelan refugees and rightwing Latino activists, such as the local chapter of the Proud Boys, to learn more about how they reconcile their identities with a movement many see as unsympathetic to the plight of more marginalized members of the community.
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Wow, it's almost as if Cubans hated communism... go figure
BurntTransistor “communism”
@BurntTransistor They more likely miss the crony capitalism of pre Castro Cuba. Back in those days the mafia ran Cuba with casinos, prostitution, and exploitation of the poor. They miss their old "Gone With The Wind" lifestyle of maids, butlers, chauffeurs and haciendas by the sea built by slave wages.
WOW, and you do not know it? ...Cubans HATE communism and I many Latinos agree with Cubans. Trump2020
23Panama fuck no!!
Those Cubans who left are a bunch of sell outs!
They are quick to kill their own people!
Cuba’s communism was derails by American embargo and military influence!!
People just don’t know....
@@DLTD
Communism failed in Cuba because of the American embargo lmfao sure, it couldn't possibly be because communism fails in every place it's ever been instituted.
It's frustrating the "reporter": Paola Ramos keeps inserting her position into the video, instead of simply covering the topic.
Exactly!!!!
thats typical around here in miami... they one way only.. ur opinion is shit
This left wing activist is pretending to be a reporter... sad
[ Her hairstyle forces her to do that. She can't help it. ]
@Vilma Betancourt you might should look up militant mate...
Not a Trump or Proud Boys fan, but what an extremely condescending “journalistic” report. Just because they don’t think the same way doesn’t mean they have mental issues or are fundamentally racist.
Very bizarre reporting from someone with one of the worst haircuts I’ve seen to act like there is some overall set of beliefs that Latinos need to have. Does she think people in those countries actually even like each other?
My family’s been in Miami for decades. Cubans are like this , they will never change.
They survive the socialisn
The most interesting part of this video is a hispanic man being lectured on being a privileged white guy from a college kid.
That college must suck
You left out a detail... from a WHITE college MALE boy.
See, this is the problem. Americans always stereotype people, you guys can’t talk for three second without mentioning race
Damn right! It's a sad day when a white kid understands privilege better than a latino grown ass man.
Why? Don't you think "hispanics" can be privileged? I live in South America, used to live in the South in the US,...and here they are way more racist and privileged than people in the US. This is also how you explain the rise of people like Castro, Morales, Chavez, Correa...
When are people gonna realize that people running away from socialism don’t want socialism
You really need to review the definition and applications of socialism.
Yeah!
We must get rid of all socialist institutions! Like... the
Police! Or Firemen!
@@josephb456 let's also do away with public schools et ERs!!!
Let's also get rid of Medicare and retirement funds, fuck the elderly. If people don't save their money they deserve to be old and homeless. As a matter of fact, these damn commies through socialism helped established the awful 8 hour max work day, what if I wanna work 16 hour days! They also helped establish 5 day work weeks, what if my ass wants to work 7 days a week for minimum wage in inhumane work conditions. Damn Socialism.
@@PoshLifeMiami too right! And let's make sure we confuse socialism and communism. And let's compare Denmark with USSR, because truly the conditions are the exactly the same... 😂
It’s crazy to me that a group of 40 plus year old men would go to a college campus on their night off to do anything and not find it a little pathetic.
The fact that they’re arguing with freshmen is goofy as hell.
Not for narcissistic asshats. They just live to hear the sound of their own voices "owning libs" lol
How's prison working out for the traitorous narc I wonder?
They were walking he stopped them he was arguing and name calling and referring to latinos as white like wtf we aint white bro..
The fact you use the word goofy to describe your point says enough about you .
Look at you defending your fellow smooth brain liberal lover.
Look at you defending your fellow smooth brain liberal lover.
As a Central American born and raised in Miami, the guy's answer to when she asked if Central Americans immigrants should get the same kind of support he wants Venezuelans to have...... is not shocking in the least. And it's very sad.
We as latinos need to do better.
@Dingle berry McDo not at all. Seeing people as being part of a group and not as individuals is the problem with the modern left. HE needs to do better, not "we".
If ya "wanna do better" then reject identarianism and reject polticism and religion. Being a freethinker and libertarian will make u a superior being.
@@emilioaymat5651 “superior being” ….. okay that tells me all I need to know about you. Stop talking to me.
The sad part is the Venezuelan female has being in the USA 30 years and she doesn't talk any English
@@emilioaymat5651 shut up
Can we get the unedited version of this? . It also seems obvious that the interviewer was left leaning bias.
@Jimmy James they do put out some good content .... However this reporter is super bias. The doctor she interviewed also left winged. Why not go to another doctor for a second opinion to see it from both sides. No, she goes to the liberal shrink and get the answers she wanted. Ohh I also loved how she didn't see men, and women as equals. Like isn't that what feminist been fighting for ???
9:10 tells you everything you need to know.... i cant believe i was hearing this biased dishonest ass oversimplified juxtaposition.
The reporter is a joke she’s real left leaning.
That student was an intern at vice during the time this was filmed. I dont know if he is still there.
People with right wing bias seem to always be upset at other points of view. go figure
SPLC?? The group that just had their FOUNDER step down for SEXUAL HARASSMENT?? Good one! Yeah we really care what THEY have to say smdh
*alleged.
Most Liberal , Socialist, Democratic Party are Hypocrites
No, the democrats just take the latino and black voters for granted. The leftists are the racists. Conservative Americans just want to stop the negative forces from fleecing our country dry...and most of those to blame are sitting in the House. Conservatives are patriots and unapologetic for supporting our President and wanting to drain the swamp rats.
Bill Clinton actually raped women! And his wife"the supposed for women candidate" supported him and was ruthless against the dozens of women he abused
Sha B apparently you do
That kid just calling him a dumbass like he did shows how sheltered he is and hes lucky that guy didn't knock his ass out. Seriously.
Hahaha I’m glad he called him a dumbass to his filthy face, cry harder
I think its important to recognize that racism doesn't mean you are a white supremacists (this is how the proud boys seem to interpret the meaning), it means that you don't hold all races to an equal standard.
But she literally said to the proud boys you are thought of and referred to as white supremacists she didn't say you are viewed as racial discriminatory people, which would have made more sense, she said. People call you a hate group and white supremacist, which they're not white supremacists because they're not white. They do have racist ideology, though.
LatinX sounds like something I'd watch at 2AM and then promptly delete all evidence of
💀💀
What does Latinos sound like?
@@greatjuankenobi217 A spicy breakfast cereal
@@greatjuankenobi217 Latin-O's - every kids favorite
@Lester Gutierrez LatinX is not a gringo creation, its a Democrat leftist SJW creation.
I wanted to watch this documentary with an open mind, but the host of this film spent more time trying to preach than trying to understand. I don't think she bothered to understand, and instead tried to force feed liberal talking points to all watching. Sick.
well said !
@Symbolic Gesture Well if everybody is saying the same thing then what does that tell you? Better yet, do not take these comments as proof and look it up yourself. Or do you want someone else to tell you how to think? I am not attacking you by the way. Just in case you have feelings that where brought upon reading this.
Yup. Trump 2020. VICE SUCKS
I mean it is vice news, at least they are honestly left instead of pretending to be fair lol
Here’s a symbolic gesture 🖕🏽
Imagine being 50 years old, hanging out in college parking garages drinking beer at 10 pm……
Enrique: "my entire family was raised in entrepreneurship..." nah bro. Your whole family was raised on wet -foot-dry-foot. 😂😂😂
This is terrible "journalism." What a joke. Just tell the story, not interject your own ideology.
Thank u
Thank you
Adam Denison - True, VICE comes across as a Neutral News Company doing these Documentaries, but they are really Wolves in Sheep’s Clothing.
Lol yeah she asks the person a question then cuts away to address it while she has no one to challenger her views. How lame of an interview tactic. If you can call it an interview
They can’t. It literally is a derangement mind set.
Hey Vice, If your "reporter" covered the topic without interjecting her opinion via voice-over every minute, this could've been watchable. Hire hosts with journalistic integrity rather than an activist who uses catchy social justice lingo like " power structures"
Why send a reporter at all???? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I would love to have one of those turds over at Vice hear how servicemen talk to each other. I'll put it this way: One of the funniest racist jokes I ever heard was when I was in the Army deployed to Iraq. It was a black dude who told me the joke. Nothing was off-limits when it came to talking shit about each other. Anyone who didn't like it could suck a hill of dicks. Having shed blood, sweat and tears for each other, we earned that right.
The line in Full Metal Jacket when the drill instructor said "...you are all equally worthless" is how it works in the military. It is in the deepest, darkest, most horrifying situations that you find true equality. I think a lot of the racial tension we're seeing now is because so few people really have to struggle for anything. In the civilian world, failing a test means losing your tuition. In my former line of work, failing a test meant losing your life. Not only your life, but that of a lot of other people as well. Worse than fucking up and getting yourself killed is surviving a fuck up, knowing you got a lot of other people killed.
@@thatguy22441 Hey! Thanks for your service! You are appreciated!
I thought it was just me but I couldn't stand that girl.
Took the words out of my mouth!
24:41 'We're both white' he says, looking straight at a dark-skinned gentleman. I mean wtf is going on here?
I love the kid for standing on what his beliefs are no matter how many grown men stare him down 🏆
Calling an afro-Latino white and dumasses is the most liberal hollow brain thing ever 😂
The kid started with white supremacists and finished with dumbass,...neither of which are progressive or compelling
She is the most most blatantly biased journalist from vice. It takes away from the whole piece
Why? I mean did she do on the video that was biased, please point out an example.
Vice is a kosher site...par for the course Cant have the brown foot soldiers going off of their NPC programming...hence YOU WANNA BE WHITE BRO (even though many are).
@@rainbowaponi6906 lol
She's supposed to report, not share her opinion
she's no journalist
A lot of Cubans are right wing conservatives 😂😂😂 nothing new
Because they've seen first hand how socialism works. I'd take their word over some blue haired, victim complex, land whale any day of the week.
Cuz theyre white wannabes
John smith don’t describe my tio
@ThisIsMyRealName Doesn't matter what they are. 99% of them are corrupt pieces of shit.
@HM Fitness the United states of America has a checks and balances system that will never allow communism to happen. Also there's more guns than people in this country, especially in Texas alone lol so we'd revolt so fast
This was a really good episode and a fantastic look into the dichotomy that exists in Miami and particularly the sad irony in the Cuban American community. The vast majority of Cubans that came to Miami during Castro communism were given government assistance from policies that were enacted by Democrat politicians.
Kind of like Ayn Rand.
Nothing ironic about fearing marxism and identity politics.
Unbelievable your statement because a government gives you some kind of assistance then we should and must back up a rotten party! Unreal...
No se olviden de los Marielitios hermanos Cubanos!
✊🏼Cuba Libre ✊🏼
And your proof that the only democrat politicians gave them assistants? Wasn't it Obama that took away their special legal status in 2010?
“Pinochet did nothing wrong”
I cannot believe I am hearing that.
he did nothing wrong,he saved his nation.Deal with it commie
He saved his country from commies
@@basedkaiser5352 By brutalizing and murdering any who opposed him and his totalitarian regime.
Pinochet was a monster
@@boolosboi7503 well the actually did many bad things but not all was bad, chile was one of the best economies for a long time
Who's here after Joe Biden mentioned the Proud Boys at the first debate of 2020?
Mister Omega Biden mention them. Trump ask “sure I will do whatever you want, which group.”Then afterwards Biden said over him “proud boys”
Me because I knew their was more to it
Who here knew of these PB's years before Monday night? ✋🏽
@Mister Omega 😂
Meeeee lol
Honestly you can go to Northern New Mexico or West Texas or Central California or a dozen other places and find Hispanics that aren't Democrats.
NewMexicoJoe505 New York City and New Jersey too , they are everywhere
Down here in Southern NM is just as conservative
@@smokkendo I mean in general Northern New Mexico is pretty liberal, but that's because of all the white people that move there from other states lol
@@thecoolest5968 The only one using that bigoted term is you.
No shit sherlock.
Ok, I've always been too afraid to ask this: When speaking English and you incorporate a Spanish word in it, is it more 'gringo' to say that one word in a Spanish accent and then go back to English, or should i say the Spanish word in an 'American'? ( ik this reporter is clearly Hispanic, I'm just askin this as a white boy)
Who's here after Donald Trump's statement about the proud boys 🙋🏾♂️
This people are stupid dam why would a white supremacy group have their cofounder be Hispanic Jesus Christ Biden lost people see more Antifa than Proud Boys lol Biden going to tank in the polls
I heard of them months ago but never investigated their beliefs. I knew that they were right wing and were pretty adept at laying the smackdown to antifa in the streets. After looking at their website and researching their history, it's pretty clear that the whole notion that the proud boys are a white supremacist group is absurd. Just five minutes of digging would reveal that to anyone willing to take a look.
They are basically just reverse ANTIFA both groups are trashm
@@glazed_waffle5629 Anyone who is willing to punch a communist in the face is alright in my book.
@@bthorn5035 Even if their facist lol.
You could almost conclude one's race doesn't determine one's politics, but we all know that's just crazy, right?
the video is more about the stupidity of said person
Lohe221 useful idiots indeed.
Lohe221 - Yeah of course. If you don’t agree with our political ideology then you’re just stupid. Lol. Typical leftist.
Right on, what even is racism if being a conservative that's not white means you hate anyone who isn't white?
Sure, both sides can argue that, but only the Left would say “it’s dangerous” about freedom of speech, it sounds bad without context and downright pathetic the way he said it...
A lifetime of kissing ass in Miami-Dade couldn't bail him out this time.
you can tell the interviewer is biased, she was lowkey heated while talking to that one lady on the couch lol
Paola: please... stop asking questions like "do you think that as a hispanic man..." or like "what is your opinion as a liatina Cuban white woman...". Why don't you try "what do you think...." or "what's your opinion about..."
Groups don't think.
Individuals think.
You run against a wall every time you think that the idea someone has to have because they fit into the identity category that you, Paola, are putting over them doesn't match what the actual individual thinks.
They can't move past their racism.
“Groups don’t think, individuals think.”
Oh yeah, it’s not like “cultures” and “communities” are real things.
Also, would you extend that principle to, oh I don’t know, transgender people or leftists or Muslims?
@@theocean1973 YES!
How do you respond as a Hispanic man? ...... Now how do you respond as a cis gender Republican?
Rick McDowell How do you respond as a midget?
The Same person that started Vice also started the Proud Boys. Let that sink in.
Ok ill admit when I'm wrong. I thought that was bullshit but its true
Well Gavin was one of three founders to be fair.
U do realize that Gavin McKinnes is a white nationalist rt?😭
jon montes yeah that’s also quite troubling lmao.
He's a provocateur for sure. But I don't think he's racist, his wife is Native American.
Now the prosecutors want him to serve 33 years. Yikes.
Why vice deleted the part when one of the proud boys said most Cuban are of a mixed race?
The Venezuelan immigrant saying that he’s ok with his people coming over, but not others. Makes sense. 🤨
We call it selfcentered.
Alicia Mulholland the immigrants coming in are asking for asylum, he’s not just referring to people coming in illegally.
@@user-rw2dr5my1s He is talking about people applying for asylum who do not qualify for asylum. There is a criteria. It’s not based on race or ethnicity but rather political and religious reasons. Most of Mexicans and Central Americans don’t fulfill this criteria and their asylum petitions are denied. Cubans and Venezuelans do fulfill this requirement due to their socialist dictatorships, which are political entities.
Juan Pablo Nuñez 1. That’s not what he said, that’s what you think.
2. Political and religious are not the only requirements for asylum.
@@user-rw2dr5my1s You are right. There are more reasons but political and religious persecution are the most common and credible claims for asylum. Central Americans and Mexicans just don’t have credible and supported claims to asylum. Criminality and poverty are not valid reasons to grant asylum. Anyone can claim asylum but not everyone will be granted.
Wow that chick is totally unbiased... *SARCASM
You noticed it too ?
Did you just call her a chick? You Mysogynist
She looks like she needs a shower and comb...
Her commentary outside of the interviews with the proud boys members definitely has bias in it, but when she is talking to them directly, she is doing what a journalist should do by pressuring them, not being biased.
Salute from Philadelphia to Miami to the proud boys keep up the good work
What are the odds that a leftist looking host and a college professor will think badly of conservative point of views.
The Enrique Tarrio segment has aged well.
It's cute that people still think government really cares about them in the first place, it's all for self intrest.
Must be a Democrat huh
@@davidbuckzalot8017 so you mean none of the Republicans are using this mess recently for their personal political gain and setting themselves up to have supporters for a future vote? Aaahahaha.
EVERYONE is for self interest.
Funny how the proud boys bring the communist riots to US congress. Traitors
You are the government, numbnut.
Enrique: "I am 40% African and 60% spanish."
White kid: "so you're white... o.o"
Technically
It doesn't matter, this dude hates other non-white people. He hates anyone who came here after him. Professor earlier mentioned it pretty clearly as the last on the boat concept. It's prevalent, and has been done in previous generations to the Irish, Polish, Italians, etc.
@@End3rWi99in Dude he doesn't hate anyone. Wake up.
He said 60% from Spain. Spain is in Europe and Europeans are considered white. It would've been different if he said 60% Cuban.
@Les Damnes in USA Spanish is used for anyone speaking Spanish
How many of the people in this film are now in prison ?
Is VICE ever going to make a video with an unbiased "reporter"?
Wtf these motherfuckers literally wear shirts that say "pinochet did nothing wrong" stfu
I was just thinking the same thing. I noticed Vice always have reporters with the same exact views on top of not being to do an unbiased video.. this is what journalism has come to.
@@popeagapitusi8 That is your take away from my comment? You think I immediately endorse the actions of Pinochet because I believe the reporter is biased? That is a sad and very closed state of mind. Probably no chance at civil discourse with someone who ends their comment with "stfu".
What did the reporter do wrong? Did she push an idea or agenda on the proud boys? After she spent time speaking to people she wanted information from she went and did more research by speaking to experts. Where are you getting this idea from?
@First Name Last Name helicopter
I love how Vice tries to portray Latinos who are Republicans as traitors lmao 😂. Identity politics is dangerous.
Because they aren’t and you know the difference.
Because they're fascists not Republicans.
Those sre not republicans those are racist tribalists. The lowest form of primitive.
not as traitors, more as confused insecure assimilators, still petty and pathetic
@@provisionalhypothesis are you sure about that
There are millions of people in southamerica that are white, from european background. You should keep that in mind when using the term 'latino' as a cliche.
Great video, thx Paola. I'm half-Cuban myself (child of an exile which is...first or second-generation?), and I can absolutely understand why people would oppose something with which they've had such visceral negative experiences (e.g., if they or someone in their family was imprisoned/murdered for criticizing the government), BUT, I still can't reconcile my background with supporting Trump or his immigration policies. Warning: long rant ahead.
(1) Cuba-like Central America and/or the Western Hemisphere as a whole-dealt with U.S. imperialism/interventionism that, in many cases, made living conditions and political climates worse for the people who lived there. For Cuba, it was the 1902 Platt Amendment; for Central America, it was the Reagan-era drug war. There are also the right-wing dictatorships that the U.S. installed because of anti-communism, U.S.-led military coups...and so on. It's weird to see how Cubans/Venezuelans cannot see the common ground they share with Central Americans; they're all suffering from some degree of damage resulting from U.S. imperialism...which makes the double-standard in our immigration policy make even less sense.
(2) Apart from the rather obvious ideological reasoning behind Cuba's privileged status in immigration law (e.g., those fleeing Cuba in the early waves during the 50s/60s were mostly seeking political [anti-communist] asylum, which fit the Cold War sentiments of the time), I wonder if there's a racial component involved too. Those early waves in the 50s/60s were (I think) mostly upper-middle-class, white Europeans. This time period coincides with the U.S.'s Civil Rights movement. Perhaps immigration law for Cuban exiles was/is so lax BECAUSE they were white? (Later waves of migration from Cuba aren't quite as white/rich, but the Cuban Adjustment Act was from the 60s, hence this question.) Since Hispanic/Latinx is not a race, again it makes our immigration policy an arbitrary double-standard. But perhaps that's obvious already.
(3) I should also mention: I grew up in southeast Texas, with a number of Mexicans, Central Americans, etc. living nearby. The colorism/racism I overheard against them was sickening. More than once I remember expressing confusion to adults around me saying, "but they're Hispanic/Latinx like me/us, why do you look down on them?" and usually their answers had something to do with how they were lower-class and had more indigenous heritage. Perhaps that came from talk radio hosts they listened to who called Mexicans "dark and lazy, unlike Cubans," or some other gross sh!t like that.
(4) Many people in this video mention Trump's anti-socialism/communism rhetoric as to why they support him, which makes sense on paper but in other ways doesn't. Something about Trump (maybe it's the demeanor) reminds me of what I imagine a far-right Latin American dictator/strongman might've been like. Of course, the anti-immigrant rhetoric is off-putting too. The fact that so many Cuban-American politicians and others opposing communism just blindly agree with everything Trump says regardless of the other horrible things he goes for, makes me infinitely ashamed to be of Cuban descent.
(5) With Bernie Sanders, I have mixed feelings. On the one hand, I think he's right about how so much of the system is broken and needs reform. On the other hand, I'm still uncomfortable with the comments he made about Castro. IDK.
Very well thought out response plus very balanced.
Thanks! I was hoping it would be.
"Trump's tough stance on immigration"? You mean, enforcing legal immigration?
No, they mean literally a Fascist agenda trying to purge brown people from the country, even though they're a boon to the economy and commit less crime than the citizens. "Tough stance" means committing war crimes against Mexico because they're a poorer country and war crimes against legal asylum seekers. Vice is being VERY kind to the clearly racist and ignorant agenda of this administration.
@@Philosjutsu and you're the reason why public schools hans failed the American people
@@Philosjutsu Crying wolf makes you an enabler. You are WORSE than a racist and a fascist.
@@Philosjutsu then is Obama the real racist ? he deported more people of color than trump could dream of.
in 2012 obama deported 400k people. trumps highest deportation year was only 280k.
obama is the true fascist if we use your explanation.
@@Philosjutsu you are correct. Far right Fascism being orchestrated by the WH. Don't be surprised when the bigots who back this policy say "nuh uh! Be very surprised if any of them can present a coherent reality based argument to the contrary. They are willfully ignorant of the facts of immigration where brown people are concerned. Hey, but Norway, send us all the blondes you want!
I’m Chicano and I don’t feel oppressed, I also don’t feel like white people are better than me by simply being white. We are all equal in the eyes of God.
Facts
Agreed. I'm a Hispanic female. I am not a victim. It's more oppressing for a white person (liberal) to believe that they are better than me because they are white and I am a minority.
You just haven't been in a situation where networking matters and those in charge have bias.
R SANTOS I grew up from a neighborhood where if you work hard you get repaid well. We never asked for handouts
I love seeing this. You are correct! The psychological exploitation of oppression (real & imagined) are in the Marxist playbook. The ideology needs to go bye-bye!
Love ❤️ to you all.
This is interesting, as a Colombian immigrant to the United States, i’m seeing the cuban immigrants as deeply brainwashed. In Colombia we have seen the two realities of socialism (FARC) and right wing populism (Uribe, corrupt government), and because of this experience I think i’ve been able to think beyond party lines and think more critically. Cubans and Venezuelans are coming from a deeply traumatic communist state, but the “socialism” in Castro’s Cuba and Maduro’s Venezuela is not the same thing as Bernie Sander’s or Joe Biden’s policies. They’re so distinct and it’s sad how much the republicans have brainwashed Latinos in Florida to not think for themselves. To end, this video was insightful, and I hope more non-latinos learn just how diverse latinos are, we don’t belong to any party, each country has had its own experiences with politics, and each nationality (Cuban, Venezuelan, Mexican, Puerto Rican, etc.) will vote according to their experience, not logic or critical thinking sadly. Maybe that’s why our countries maintain corrupt politicians!
exactly, unfortunately, these Cubans and Venezuelans don´t see the similarities between trump and Maduro or Castro. They are so brainwashed that is frightening.
It's the same thing. To tell yourself that Bernie Sanders is different is just plain ignorant. You're here saying that Latinos are brainwashed by the right while you're telling us at the same time that we shouldn't be loyal to any party when you clearly have your stance on one. You can't tell people that communism isn't bad, when they are the ones who lived it. You sound like a spoiled Latina who's never had to beg for food, water or proper medical care.
Well and 4 years later these guys are going to prison for a long time 😂
Enrique is currently being sentenced 22 years for his involvement in Jan 6.
I knew I recognized him.
Enrique is currently being sentenced 22 years for his involvement in Jan 6.
I knew I recognized him.
"Why do new coming Venezuelans distinguish themselves away from other Latinos" As if we all are supposed to think the same?
The left is mad that latinos think for themselves and are not just stuck to one thought and one political party.
a large part of the hispanic population did not come to the US. The US came to them. My family has lived in Texas before the 1700s. Dont assume that every brown person/hispanic, crossed a river or border to get here. Thats the biggest mistake to assume. Thats where the majority of the silent Trump supporters are.
@Chris Ayala
Lo siento Chris, pero me temo que te equivocas.
Puedes ser argentino y de ascendencia alemana en 2da o 3a generación.
Es más, precisamente Argentina es un país bastante europeo en el sentido estrictamente étnico, con gentes con una ascendencia completamente europea; véase el Papa Francisco por ejemplo.
@Bennett McCoy the only races you're supposed to acknowledge now is white and non-white
Chris Ayala Before you speak about Argentinians go to Argentina, otherwise stay in that disaster filled corrupted island of yourself.
Black cuban: we just love america
Vice : they hate blacks and latinos
Exactly! Dude it’s insane.
Black Cuban: "We call ourselves Proud Boys because we CELEBRATE GAY PRIDE and George Takei's #ProudBoys!"
I know I kept saying the same thing !! How can they say their not identifying with other groups when most of those ppl are Latinos . They love to make things up my goodness the tongue (vice) is the devil
Totally agree!
Can a t-girl join?
How do I join
I also think this woman needs to define what an asylum seeker is. You cannot simply cross several countries to arrive at the US. Their is international law that prohibits this action.
I miss the old vice. This is the worst and most biased journalist.
Amen to that
They are biased, but they ask questions and listen. This may be the best we can expect right now. As long as the press doesn't try to hide truths like CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, WAPO and NYT, we can at least get another POV out.
The "LatinX" is a giveaway...
But her haircut is soooooo cool!
its not that bad
Uhm some correction Vice, Trump is against "ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION" even I not from the US can figure it out
@@jc6781 Citation please.
@@jc6781 wow using the racist card early in a conversation are you in a hurry? I dont think deporting people who didnt enter the legal way is racist stop using the "racist" word to people you dont agree with because its counter productive.
@@jc6781 I would like to know where you got that information. Illegal immigrants are the only ones who have been targeted, and for good reason. That reason being that they are breaking the law.
@@jc6781 The first targeted were those who's visas expired or did not show up for their immigration hearing thus making them in the country illegally. There was never and never will be any problems with LEGAL immigrants who do the correct steps to become a citizen. They will always be welcomed.
Real talk
Context to you context statment on the drug problem: The reason why they are all prosecuted and caught at the ports is because thats where he majority of our border patrol is at. Not everybody and most drugs can and are being carried across where there are no ports lol.
8:45 as a Swede, I can confirm that that meme 100% is true
This might be the Latinos the Democrats didnt consider when they lost Florida to Trump.
@Vilma Betancourt fuck JFK. He was connected to the mafia. Look at his dad. Both parties are trash. Open your eyes and you'll see.
Shows how out of touch the left really is.
HAHAHAHAHAAAAAA.....EXACTLY
@@SimonKanner-si3it indeed..but we ALLLL need to vote for him.again
What 20 or thirty people made trump win? lmfao
I really wish that people would quit with the Identity Politics.
She’s basically asking everyone why they’re not voting with their skin color. That’s racist.
Imagine if Republicans went out and asked white people why they’re not voting with their community. They’d be considered the KKK. Vice news is the left equivalent
Trump pushed that by attacking specific groups.
Dude everything is political. how much money you have is political, the car you drive is political, the clothes you wear are political, hell the cereal you ate this morning is also political. So of course people are political and by that extend who you are as a person is political. which means your identity whether you like it or not IS POLITICAL. Now cough up that red pill and grow up.
@@ericp4573 asking why members of a community would willingly vote for someone who continually shits on them is a valid question
Instead of this girl talking to this psychologist about the proud boys, she should’ve found a way to get the proud boys talking with the psychologist. There’s some obvious bias here.
Welp!! Enrique Tarrio was just sentenced to 22yr. All the trolling was cute while it lasted
Can we get a interviewer who is UNBIASED
VICE is so biased its disgusting
It's vice.
Pretty sure vice is one of the most unbiased!
Evan Ofcourse not
@rich91 you know that the interview in the beginning is pretty leftist
I wonder how many of the proud boys in this video are also in jail now
There are a few 😮
Why don't you bring up your points to them instead of editing the video and not give them a chance to argue it
oscar miranda but why do you look like those guys who let there beards grow for about a year just so they can go fight for isis though?
My friends are asking
@@mrg9921 Could you not act like a 6 year old?
Because this is "Vice". Better to be woke than let those Hispanic white supremacists spread their nazi hatred of hispanics.
Thank You!!!!!!!
@@mrg9921 Wow, what a clever boy you are. So a long beard equals isis? You are an idiot.
That woman has been in America for 30 years and did her interview in Spanish. If you are living in a country for 30 years you should be comfortable speaking their main language.
I think she actually speaks 4 languages. And I believe she was raised in Spain but her father is Mexican.
@@chickab00m I don't mean the presenter. I mean Patricia at the storage units. She should be speaking American if she has been there for 30 years.
Who's here after Enrique tarrio got 22 years to rot? 😂
Anyone ever notice how tough the left is on the Proud boys but how forgiving and soft they are on antifa kind of funny
I wish they would do a video like this on antifa.
Reminds me of the president. Good people on both sides.
I like any group that says punch a white Supremacist... The last 3 1/2 years I've slapped the shit out of these racist bitches that have come out of there racist closet...
@@marvinwilliams4223 but there was good people on both sides and the president firmly denounced the neo-nazis and white supremacist he actually said I'm not talkin about the neo-nazis and white supremacists right before saying there was good people on both sides
@@paddybeme you know your family and friends can tell when an apology is sincere. It's obvious that when the president does not likes something he rants and tweets about it left and right.... His so called denouncement is not sincere and people can see that because it's obvious. He does not take is seriously. A celebrity calls Trump out he tweets about it the same day or within 24 hours. People get shot up and killed and he responses 48 hours laters with a response that he's reading. If you can't tell the difference then you need to seek help. Medicare for all can be extremely useful.
as a Latino American I am ashamed of Enrique, he should be smoking cigars not cigarettes.
You got me in the first half ngl.
Nah! Not every cuban smoke cigars
@@amoghthorave3385 you took the words right out of my mouth
He smoke cigarettes because he is no che or fidel
😂
Im just here because the thumb nail.
It looks like Enrique got his grill dyed PB yellow.
i always found it odd that Cubans, Puerto Ricans and Dominicans are sometimes proud of their culture and of their immigrant history, but look down on other immigrants from Mexico and Central America, it’s a very interesting but awkward thing in the Latino community.
The inland countries look down upon the Caribbean countries and see them as just "(insert deregatory term) islands".
Puerto Ricans are not even immigrants.
this narrative is all screwed up. please if you’re going to attempt journalism, please be unbiased! like lol yikes this was really uncomfortable to watch
Then dont watch it bitch
This was actually quite less biased compared to their previous videos
It's meant to be biased. Tells the story of those that suffered under socialism.
That's pretty much what they do now.... Vice is only good for docs on random weird shit.
Rob stfu pussy. I wasnt talking to you bitch
I knew a right wing Cuban and a left wing Colombian. Always made for interesting conversations at work. One thing I learned from both of them is Americans have no idea how good we have it.
Yeah most do not realize the bubble they are living in...
I say this all the time. That's why u see alot of entitlement here in the U.S.. These people don't know real struggle
@@judasjunior6503 some people dont. A lot of entitlement comes from non-military background civilians and immigrants as well. Like the ones from Honduras complaining that beans and tortillas are "hog food." I'm a middle class American and I would be grateful of food that anyone offers me! I eat beans and tortillas everytime we go to visit my husbands family. You can look up the video on here.
@Lucky Sport there are countries with more liberty than America you moron.
Yes, don't fuck up America with socialism! making the state bigger is a big step to socialism! the Venezuelan crisis was not made in a day, it took 20 years, they did it little by little, and they started like Bernie Sanders and AOC, making promises about wellfare and making the state bigger to distribute the wealth.
for her haircut i give the reporter props for not freaking out
Sons of recent immigrants against immigrants lol. Clown
"You dont see the difference?"
"No"
Thats when you realize common sense is missing 🤷♂️
I would say that it summarizes quite well the inteligence of these people...
There's no difference between men and women
@SIMply Skye If someone looking like a psycho crosses you with a running chainsaw, (s)he is still just people like all of us but yet you'll rightfully fell uncomfortable. Are you that stupid not to understand why a women alone might fell threatened by a group of men, but not by a group of women? Are you that stupid that I'll need to make a draw to explain to you what rape and sexual assault is about? Un-fucking-believable how low you people can get...
@@GravelGuerrilla You are a complete idiot, and making you draws about rape and sexual assault would be a waste of my precious time. Grow a brain.
This summarizes their whole thinking. These people are just looking for attention and are just group of losers who are banding together.
The "journalist" and the professor need to go. The bias is UNREAL, although I shouldn't be surprised that they would put words in other peoples' minds and mouths.
Agreed, this could have been a shareable report if they removed the two of them and added less biased people.
So true
Ariana Penno - So True, as VICE come across as Wolves in Sheep’s Clothing.
Terribly biased!
I disagree simply because the journalist's and professor's narrative is absolutely and unequivocally contradicted by what the people being interviewed are telling them. When the question of assimilation comes up near the end, the professor basically rejects the notion of it and wonders what anyone of color would stand to gain from it. Of course they're going to identify as a negation of their own background when their parents and grandparents were being oppressed by socialism. Thats why they came here. Theres no amount of spin that VICE could have added to this to support their narrative. Even the college kid, who dissected the leader's identity to being anything other than American, failed...epically.
Bingo!!!...Thank you. Thought I was the only one seeing the same thing.
18:30 ❤ GPS TRACKING, isn't that "BIG BROTHER"???
Does anyone know the song at the end?
The way she always says Latina makes me cringe everytime
I think those Cuban proud boys are hard to listen to and not cringe.
@@ll1844 you would. ya racist.
Lol it’s cause she passes for white so she overcompensates by over-pronouncing Spanish words to show that she’s Latina
@bittercottoncandy most latinos are mestizo/native blooded not white.
so annoying
I feel like vice is making these guys out to be thugs or something 😐
Dana Respress they are
they're thugs
Its vice what do yoy expect
@Agenda Analyst Antifa is the response of these ignorant racist. You know that 99% of what Antifa does is not punching Nazis, right ?
His T-shirt says Commie Killer. So no, I don't think they're thugs, they're killers. Anyways when a white MAGA friend & shooter comes, he doesn't stop to ask about their affiliation, he just shoots them because he sees brown.
Yeah! Cubans ,Venezuelans, Mexicans,Hondurans,Brazillians,etc. Are not who some Americans thought automatically. They're often smart hardworking accomplishing ppl, family ppl, and much more!
There is no identity crisis. People of the same race can have different political views and different identities. All Latinos or Hispanics can have different identities, they’re not all from the same country or have same experiences.
This vice reporter gets off every time she says Latino
Eric p cuz she passes as white she’s gotta compensate
she's so annoying hahah she secretly white.
Miles Sharette I think that’s true
Miles Sharette There are white Latinos. In some Latin American countries like Argentina, Chile, and Uruguay, whites are the majority.
Cant even say it normal lol super annoying
Her saying latinX instead of Latinos, really annoyed me. Latinx isn't even a real thing.
A Latino conservative wouldn’t even use that word 😂
Barbie Pena it’s a feminist thing. Why was she trying to pander to white liberal feminists with the term?
Barbie Pena annoys me too. She wants to copy AOC.
I didnt even realize that's what she was saying, what a tard
Love how these types of people get so angry when you don't use THEIR preferred identifiers, then they cast all this weird shit on us without even asking about it. Hypocrisy.
Sometimes the word dumbass just fits..... It amazes me how stupid people can be, but more importantly how easy it is to get in their heads.
more times than not the far right and the more extreme ends of any political view for that matter are predominately men, could this infatuation with extreme ideals be a particularly masculine issue/ issue with masculinity itself...
People loving bringing up that “I’m part black” when it works in their favor 😂
Dude was arrested *01/04/21* for burning a BLM flag in protest 🥴😂😂😂
@@kevinmorganjr2423 you dead ass?? ?The irony
@@juniorguillot8549 look it up. Leader of Proud Boys
@Danny Archer it didn’t. Neither of us know what he TRULY meant with that statement. But I do know he was arrested in my hometown for burning a BLM flag on 01/04/2021.
@Danny Archer are you dumb??? Just cause he’s part black/ POC means he can’t be racist? You do know you can be racist to your own race right?
LOL @ the professor saying that it's unfair to describe the Democrat party as socialist - even Bernie Sanders.
And then he goes to explain the difference, which is obvious to most.
Well to be fair, socialism is quite a leap further than what the dems are talking about. Bernies policies are democratic-socialist (yes, there is a huge diffrence. in the middle between free market and socialism). BUT we all know that behind closed doors many of the dems would say far darker (real) socialist shit.
I think you would benefit from taking a political science course.
Socialism means “government ownership of the means of production.”
Which democrats are advocating this? Please tell me.
@@marmite_popsicle baby steps. It always ends in tyranny. Read Animal Farm and 1984. Btw, yes I Orwell was a socialist but even he recognized it always becomes totalitarian. And ingsoc = english socialism.
i find the american distinction between right and left fascinating, as its so far from the uk definitions.
That kid stood his ground, against the so called leader of the Proud boys,,,,,FACTS!!!!!
Stood his ground lmao
😂🤣
True, because they looked pretty aggressive even with the cameras. Tarrio was still fuming after the interaction
I don't understand why all Latinos must be grouped together as one. Is this because they share a common language? "Latinos" have the misfortune of being celebrated as one when there are huge differences, races, cultures amongst all the "Latino"countries. I'm waiting for us to lump all English speakers together (Jamaica, Ireland, New Zealand, etc... and call them all Englishes 🤷🏻♂️
Because if we are all lumped together its easier to control us. Fuck these commie sanctimonious assholes
I think this doesnt compute on american brains. They are white latinos, they are black latinos, they are mestizos latinos, even asian ones. They need to "update" their "race" classification. I mean, by american logic Tom Brandy Wife isnt white, someone who is descendent from Germans. Not to mention, the white kid in the end failed, the guy clearly wasnt white and he didnt want to admit, not to mention he went straight to insults.
And other thing, the Spaniards did kill alot of natives, but it was tge British/americans who truly had a wiping out policy. The spanish policy, despite having a class and race elite, they did mix alot with the natives. The British/americans just conquered the land and mostly exterminated them, no race mixing. I mean, seems people dont get why they are so many "brown latinos" while saying the spaniards killed them all.
They already do they call us white people.
Maga 2020
@@deadlyundead lmao even Jamaicans?
Love how the attractive young Latina woman knew policy and they edited so much out. Can’t make her look substantive can we? Lol... Vice is a joke 😆
John Tuya what right wing media? Fox? 90% of the media is left wing
John Tuya then let her express why she holds certain policy positions. Why hide so much of what she said?
John Tuya CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS and Fox are mainstream daily wire, info wars TYT are on RUclips with so much less reach. Most of MAINSTREAM media is liberal. No one who is honest questions that
Kevin Kelley congrats you named Underground RUclips sources. Washington post Vice buzzfeed npr New York Times cnn abc ESPN nbc MSNBC CNBC the verge the onion USA Today Wall Street journal BBC Al Jazeera pbs huffington post mother jones snopes the young Turks Newsweek forbes yahoo medium vanity fair cosmopolitan politico the hill ... want me to keep going?
gnielsen07 thanks for expanding and making my point! BuT whAt aBouT DaiLy WirE? Boy can’t deny most of media is liberal if he’s being honest. Including Vice which we’re all commenting on one of their videos lol
Why do have Spanish subtitles when the person is speaking Spanish and English subtitles when the person is speaking English?
As the great Sir Winston Churchill once said..."Socialism is the equal sharing of misery" and "An appeaser is a man who feeds the hungry crocodile hoping he`ll be the last one to be eaten"
To be a vice employee is it a requirement to look like you haven't showered in weeks?
Yes
Is this a Kindergarten here?
Judging people by their look... really classy
Joey ken It's ironic that your grammar isn't even on par with your attempt to demonize someone else's grammar.
@@southernarawak5699 Hey white knight I believe its way past your bedtime.
Joey ken Hey, pussy. It's okay you didn't have to delete your whole comment just because you got called out on your call out. Lol. Pathetic.
Love how vice misses the point every time. Lol
Every fucking time
What was the point in here ?
Point was pretty center to me . Why go extreme against your own self ?.
The funny part is that Vice News and the Proud Boys were co founded by the same person, Gavin McInnes :)))
Is that the reason why you incessantly tune in?
Latinos need to be very careful...very careful👿🤨
I love the young kid got a ton of heart and extremely bright God bless him smart college kid