China Has Banned “Effeminate” Men | Gen China
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- Опубликовано: 28 мар 2023
- In 2021, China's broadcasting regulator issued a ban on 'niang pao' or 'sissy men' from appearing on TV and video streaming sites. The derogatory term is used to describe men with effeminate looks. Do these rules signal a return to more traditional notions of patriarchy, masculinity and even nationalism?
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I like how manhood is simultaneously supposed to be this immutable trait that even surgery and hormones can't change and yet also so fragile that it disappears if you don't act macho enough.
We exist in a world of ideas , go read some plato and carl jung
please go see a doctor
Schrodinger’s gender 😂
Fax
Also the juxtaposition of men go to war and sissies live in peace on mobile phones. Such a extreme to bring out slightly feminine k-pop stars and gender swapping in the same argument to make all feminine things illegal for men, with the argument that who will go to war if men grow soft?? As good as it is to bring healthy limits to bending gender roles, this does seem to hide some pro-war bias underneath.
I find it odd that China considers long hair feminine when culturally the Chinese kept their hair long for centuries before western influence. Edit: Yes I know long hair is feminine, but I'm referring to a time when it was considered typical for a man unlike now.
@@gotsu7343 Which is?
@@gotsu7343 which is what???
Long hair is a western influence? I don't think so
Power is the heroin of the small-minded man
And force, force is the needle, the gun in his hand
He lusts to control all the people and the land
Complete, total destruction, his ultimate end
@@dhimankalita1690 I said the opposite, can you read?
the amount of comments from Americans who are supporting china banning freedoms is disturbing
That’s the right for you
they'll hate on it tomorrow don't worry
No, we're just sick and tired of seeing degenerates everywhere we go.
Toxic masculinity 💀
Youre right, we need more these are rookie numbers
So basically China is going through their redpill phase 😂
No matter where you go in the world, it seems like there's always this paradox; Tradition is strong enough to stand the test of time by itself but is fragile enough to constantly be threatened unless propped.
Or traditions have stood the test of time because people stood guard over them and took decisions with the interest in protecting those traditions(however they deemed best). Not being Chinese so I don’t know the culture but apparently they dislike effeminate men being a societal model they want men to follow. They see it as something they want to contain before it becomes engrained in their culture like how they see it in Japanese and Korean culture.
Tradition isn't beneficial in of itself. Historically, slavery, genocide, domestic violence, child brides, etc. have all been part of the tradition of many societies. Do you think that they serve the public good just because they existed for thousands of years of recorded history (and likely long before recorded history)?
Or does it make sense to evaluate things on their own merits? How are other people, or society in general, harmed by some men being "effeminate?"
@@ENB90 - You think that that's an accurate assessment of Japanese and Korean cultures? Here's a hint: it isn't. Same deal when glam rock was popular in the U.S. in the 1970's, and when hair metal and New Wave were popular in the 80's. And the American right wing practically worship the "Founding Fathers," who wore wigs, frilly shirts, stockings, short pants to show off their calves, and makeup in some cases.
@@loki2240 💯
It's kinda rhymes with nazi rhetoric that "enemy is exceptionally strong and perpetually weak at the same time" 🤔
As soon as this video started I knew exactly what it was about. It’s about sending kids to war.
Sad reality. Peace allows people to explore new ways of being, war just forces them to survive.
It's almost like their new Billionaire class that State capitalism created want a distraction from their crooked dealings, just like American billionaires do.
One of the oldest tricks in the book: Give people an enemy so they don't see the enemy already lording over them.
@@alfonso8843 My body; my choice but from the natal male point of view. Resisting the draft/military is body autonomy as well as taking cross hormones. The emperor/President/leader wants what they want; and they need bodies to do it.
It's meant to make a certain subset of western society hate China and Chinese culture so that they will support future conflict. There is no other reason for this video.
Well China hasnt had a war in a very long time, unlike US and other countries.
I think what this short documentary completely fails to address is that there is no one traditional chinese masculinity, but rather more nuanced roles. Especially in imperial China there were a lot of good associations with idealised more feminine men, who tend to be better educated in the liberal arts such as poetry as opposed to typical military leader type men
That's curious. In the west poetry is not exactly associated with a feminine role.
Even the generals get romanticized with being poets and being generally "learned", even if they weren't in reality. Just a completely different view
it's the winners that write history...
Not all true. Warriors in ancient China who were well versed in poetry weren’t regarded as feminine. IT was seen as an attractive trait. “A man that is strong, able to provide for his family/people while also being good in a more subtle thing such as poetry?” Thats attractive
Does that mean Chinese men should be effeminated? no!!
"Care about people's approval, and you will always be their prisoner." - Lao Tzu
Off grid and Freedom based
They looked at America and said "Oh hell no" 😂
exactly
Nothing wrong with effeminate men. It's all about freedom of expression
@@PatrickWDunne it's ok if you keep it to yourself, but it's another thing to advertise it on media so it influence so many children who should have grown up normally without such influence
The fact that the chinese call them sissy men is fkin hilarious😂😂how is this not a South Park episode😂
@@joey3291 my dude, he literally said 'expression'. Tf you mean keep it to yourself.
I don't accept the premise that supposedly effeminate men are not men. However, looking at Chinese demographics, it doesn't appear as though running out of men ought to be their main concern.
Or running out of desirable men. Population growth must maintain zero sum at minimum.
One young person working won’t be able to support 3 old people on government medical for example.
In the face of modern challenges and the complexity of the modern world, much of the world is shifting hard to the right. "Tradition," simple "solutions" etc. are appealing to a lot of people, in addition to scapegoating and bigotry just to try to make oneself feel better. It's not good for any country, or for relations between countries. Countries controlled by "strongmen" will very likely continue to lead them into war and to attack their own people, to show how "strong" they are.
Because apparently you're unaware of what social engineering is or what fourth generational warfare is
@@Anonymous-yc9fl oh go then, enlighten me.
The funny thing is a large chuck of these women love "feminine". Just look at the media and content they produce, look at how they go gaga at idols etc. China is shooting themselves in the foot. If you think these woman are going to go from loving their femboys, to uber masculine men, then your crazy.
The irony here is that nothing comes off as more gay than men who obsess over other men's manliness.
cope harder
I think that's called masculinity?
Men being themselves and expressing their style is now banned. Fucking ridiculous
I hate it too, but the ban isn’t that big tbh. If you check out any Chinese show right now, the actors are all wearing makeup and lip tints. It’s vague and the enforced in weird ways (dyed hair is banned, but guys still appear on national tv with dyed brown or blonde hair). On social media, there’s a biggg gay community, but people use slang and other words for hashtags sadly :(
It's all fun and games until the fedora guy tells you to go back to the factory.
He needs to calm down and worry about himself.
@@colico14 he ain't lying to be honest
Truth is nobody actually wants to be Gay
I swear both the US and china are regressing just in completely different ways...
Not really. Only China is going archaic
By getting rid of weak and useless men, China in your definition is regressing? This speaks a lot about your priorities lmao.
This is never about woman/man, it's about freedom in GOD's realm, not the religion one
They are not, they are moving forward your brain is left in the past.
The US regressing isn't as bad as China. Unlike China we have (50) States with the people having the right to vote and decide what we want for our people in specific areas. It may seem bad, but it's a whole lot better than a 1 child policy, under 1 rule, and censorship. We take for granted what others wish they have. In China's case their 1 child policy made too many men with no idea of what lie ahead.
I totally agree with China. Let common sense return back to human life.
Absolutely disgusting...let people live their lifes please..
An additional factor about these "effeminate" men is that a lot of them, specifically the singers you see on TV, are directly influenced by Korean/Japanese pop culture. Chinese audiences watch these men because they are familiar in the sense that they are Chinese whilst emulating Korean/Japanese pop culture; an example is the show "Idol Producer". Banning them will mean that Chinese audiences will probably turn away from Chinese media and to foreign media such as Korean/Japanese for this sort of content.
Considering China's relationship with Korea and Japan I don't know if that's what they want to do lmfao.
Or conversely, perhaps part of the motivation is fear that 'traditional' Chinese culture is being influenced too much? I can't help imagining the CCP leadership as a sort of Chinese-equivalent to the boomer stereotype, ranting about how much better everything was back in their day and trying to ban anything they find new and strange.
I would agree, but the overwhelming majority of the Chinese people only have access to what the CCP allows them to.
So while some people will turn more away from CCP media, most won't.
I think ultimately it will have the intended outcome of trying to further divide the Chinese people from their neighbors. Which the CCP obviously wants since part of its image as a world power is being aggressive towards it's neighbors.
@@lordlee6473 Oh gurl please: DO get over yourself....
They'll still patronize their own Chinese media.
Korea/Japan are occupied by the U.S., these people have deliberately been sissified to not challenge US hegemony in the region. CIA plot turned Japan, which was once a country of alpha male warriors, into sissy cartoon jerk offs. Sad but true.
First, they came for the twinks 😔
😂
🤣🙄
Then, they came for the femboys 💔
They started with Uyghurs
So the Republican party, uh, I mean the Communist Chinese Party, that hates freedom, has outlawed men dressing like women. Hmmm...
These are not "effeminate men". These are men dressing as women.
tomato tomahto?
Hasn't the concept of a man being feminine been deeply ingrained in Chinese culture? The Peking Opera (京劇 - Jingju) serves as a notable example with men often portraying female roles, kinda paradox.
In Ancient China, everyone has long hair… as a sign of respect for their ancestor/parents, what’s the big deal making guys have short hair cuts? It’s just one way for the government to enforce control…
if you think xinpings regime genuinely cares about old china then youre mistaken lol
@TrippyStorm
I don't agree with most of what China does, but this is a good thing for China and the world needs to follow. Go back to when effeminate men were very rare and same sex marriage was illegal 🙏🏾📖🙏🏻
Damn you Obama for legalizing same sex marriage ❗
@@whateverwhatever4026 no but they didn't need to put on makeup and try to expose our children to their lunacy.
@@Khabasalainganba exactly
@@Khabasalainganba 1. Its what girls want. The entire Idol culture revolves around the idea of the ideal wants of each gender. If a guys wants girls to be Tomboyish, it would revolve around that and vice versa for girls.
2. Standards of masculinity is so broad that saying that one thing is masculine or feminine is impossible. For instance: Pink was once used by men as a status symbol. Now its associated as a symbol for women.
3. Their standards of fashion of masculine basically equivalents to "Being a 50 year old dad from the 1950s"
The problem is associating "fighting spirit" as an inately masculine quality. Inner strength is not masculine or feminine, it goes much deeper than that. "Strength" and bravery are not measured by a short haircut, big muscles or beard.
It may be more so linked to how much soy sauce one consumes in a day.
They do, however, certainly help. Look at how much the strongest woman in the world (whom has trained and lifted and built strength her whole life" can lift versus how much the strongest man can lift. It's a biological issue not an opinion or hopeful wishes issue.
But in one way, the sex difference is stark: Men are physically stronger than women, on average. A study in the Journal of Applied Physiology found that men had an average of 26 lbs. (12 kilograms) more skeletal muscle mass than women. Women also exhibited about 40 percent less upper-body strength and 33 percent less lower-body strength, on average, the study found.
The researchers found that height and weight differences between men and women could explain only about half of the difference in strength. Researchers reporting in 1993 in the European Journal of Applied Physiology(opens in new tab) found that men's brawn could also be attributed to a larger cross-section in individual muscle fibers. [5 Myths About Women's Bodies]
And a 2006 study in the same journal revealed that men had much stronger grips than women - the difference was so big that 90 percent of the women scored lower than 95 percent of the men. The team also looked at highly trained female athletes who excelled at sports requiring a strong grip, such as judo or handball. Though these women did have a stronger grip compared with other women, they still performed worse than 75 percent of the men on this task.
In general, men are also faster than women. The fastest woman in the world, Florence Griffith Joyner, ran the 100-meter dash in just 10.49 seconds in 1988, and that record remains unbroken. Yet her fastest time wouldn't have even qualified her for the men's 2016 Olympic competition, which requires competitors to finish the 100-meter sprint in 10.16 seconds or less.
www.livescience.com/52998-women-combat-gender-differences.html
You must be weak. Only a weak person would say that. Or someone who is clearly delusional.
Nice idealistic rant. But reality paints a different picture
China has a subtle traditional philosophy of governance where leaders do not rigidly enforce every regulation without any room for flexibility. Instead, they leave some gray areas for people or matters that may not align perfectly with the mainstream values of the country to exist. While these regulations may be strict when initially released, they tend to relax significantly after a certain period of time.
Men must be strong and ready to fight for the country. Sissy men are wrong
That's what the founding fathers of USA intended, they wrote about it a bit. It obviously didn't go that direction.
Yes we call that authoritarianism. Hardly subtle or unique. Making everything illegal and then selectively prosecuting things to target specific groups and individuals at specific times
it is not intended to be loosely enforced but rather impossible to enforce. the vast geography of china leads to inevitable variation with local rulers often having more power than national leaders. this also leads to corruption as well.
china is already short and their eyes are kind of effeminate so having femboys on tv is only gonna make it worse
Regarding the old man who appears @3:30 saying Korean men are sissies. He must think everyone looks and acts like BTS. In reality, all Korean men have to serve in the military. Sports and martial arts are huge. Korean Zombie, Choi Doo Ho, Chu Sung Hoon, Son Heung Min, and on and on. Also, the old man doesn't realize that his "we need more men" philosophy is probably at least part of the problem in China.... China already has too many dudes and not enough women. So dont be surprised when some of the dudes start acting like women.
Also, funny how he thinks all American movies are blow em up shoot em up. Ever heard of Brokeback Mountain?
It really is funny to compare this to the rhetoric of American social conservatives. They say the same thing the old man is saying, but about America....
Thought the one office worker guy had a good point about the law being to vague. Also reminds me of how vague "woke" is in the US....
@@keyboardemperor1112 it is indeed. It also has gold, silver, and a bad ass eagle.
@@keyboardemperor1112 thank you! Appreciate it.
你没有抓住问题的关键，问题是美国向未成年人宣传LGBT是好的东西。本来中国人没有歧视性少数群体，但是那些人好像自己是受害者一样，到处抨击异性恋，说同性恋才是真爱，好像想要全世界都知道他们是同性恋。真正的性少数群体只想好好过自己的生活。那些拿着彩虹旗到处游行的人，是真正搞乱这个国家。我们不是讨厌长相清秀的人，而是讨厌使用矫揉做作的腔调来博取大家眼球的人
I studied and also taught high school in China. It's hilarious that they're afraid of "sissy" culture making their men weak. From what I have seen, there are two things that are ACTUALLY doing that - the unforgiving education system and culture that literally keeps kids indoors and discourages any type of extracurricular activity or any distraction from studying; and the constant awareness of the CCP and people growing up knowing they will be violently subdued if they step out of line. I'm pretty sure online gaming addiction is a much more common phenomenon than boys and men walking around in skirts. And unlike the latter it's actually bad for people. BIG EYEROLL.
better than American and British systems though, where people are just way too fat to be considered men (or even women)
The gov. are very aware of both and that's why they already started limiting the hours per week minors are allowed to play video games and also starting to shut down the entire private tutoring industry for the past couple years. I wish Chinese families emphasized sports and physical fitness more, that would natural make a big portion of men more masculine.
that studied or thaught in china doesnt mean you understand the reality and culture of china. so please shut up
Stay away from kids please 🏳️🌈
You speak of gaming addiction but there has also be condemnation on Chinese policy to limit the amount of time young people spend on video games. I do agree that extracurricular physical activities should be more encouraged over getting top grades, but academic competition is really rough from what I've heard.
A shortage of woman in China may be a leading cause of this
Never thought I'd agree with China on something lol
Well a sheep will do
What it’s gotta do
This the result of the One Child Policy which became the One Son Policy.
Honestly seems very plausible. Crazy how the disastrous impact of the One Child Policy is still being felt to this day
No brides for that one son = national demographic death.
That part. Straight men in China have problems finding wives/girlfriends.
@@majestic._ yea there are literally 20 MILLION more men than women in China now. It’s pretty crazy.
30 million men will never have a woman in china.
Ironically, getting your hair cut was considered something disrespectful to your family back then in China, cause they believed that your body is your parents's property,even if you're grown up, and you can't just destroy your parents's property.
And we can see how that tradition is portrayed in chinese series and donghuas, so why take a ideal of masculinity that is more related to a western tradition if it's the Western that needed to be fought?
The hairstyles you see of 'martial' historical Chinese men are distinct from a subset of modern hairstyles that would be labelled as 'not masculine'. But yes, overall, it is astounding and perhaps even appalling how much the entire world has assimilated to western culture as a result of western hegemony for the past 200 years.
Because they want to be like the West as most everyone does
This isnt the china of back then.
They don't really care about tradition anymore, they're moulding their image.
Lol not true
Weak men create a world host of problems.
Yeah. Every war has been started by weak men
Beware of toxic feminism.
In the future I'm guessing China is also going to ban Beijing Opera, as it has a long, storied tradition of men in makeup playing female roles! 😄
It's happened before got ideological reasons. Thankfully, the art survived somehow.
I don't think this version of a nationalist China will want to attack traditional culture, though. They are more likely to associate"effeminacy" as a foreign influence I could be wrong.
@@Kigoz4Life they won’t lol but keep hoping buddy
@@ems4884 You act as if China's """"""Nationalists"""""" haven't spent the last 50+ years scouring the country for anything resembling pre-revolution China, and either destroying them quietly or altering them to support the Chinese Communist Party.
@@Kigoz4Life - Apparently, you cared enough to express your own insecurity.
@@Kigoz4Life you have to admit she looks kind of hot at 2:52
"We have to preserve this unique Chinese culture"
-says wearing a fedora, a hat originating from france
France has won more battles and wars than any other country in history
Even France would disagree with his words
Bloody dictatorship
Thank you china for doing this. That's why I respect china more than USA on these kind of things. 🙏
literally this whole thing is nothing but a reverse pissing contest.
I know right? im like wtf right now. I thought they encouraged it.
I guess thats what it feels like to be in china....
WOW.
How Hebrew of you to say.
Like their vacuuming up the piss and competing with who can suck up the most?
This is never about woman/man, it's about freedom in GOD's realm, not the religion one
protecting your nation from the homosexual agenda isn't a pissing context you are ignorant or world politics and how USA users propaganda.
This comment section makes me feel a mix of terror and hopelessness beyond my own comprehension
Ikr 😢
Birth rates declining that's the reason
The birth rates dont decline because of some men who look like girls though. High cost of living, not enough space to live, youth unemployment...the whole commie crap that takes spirituality away from people. That are reasons.
one thing about the Chinese government.. they really will do whatever they want
Hence why my Chinese associates call them a Warlord Council or a Council of Warlords.
"Is it really any better off to have the Chinese Communist Party if everyone in it behaves no differently than if we ruled over by these hedonistic Warlords of a century ago?" - Chinese Woman and Associate of mine who wishes to remain Anonymous.
True
like every major government in the world? 😂
no. but they COMMIT.
I think it is kind of loosing control of their people
That dude with the hat ain’t having it with these “ sisssy men” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
As he should
And to think that he actually said that by being effeminate, men lose their "rebellious spirit".
It seems to me that being an effeminate man in a world that hates gender non-conformity is one of the most rebellious things a man can do!
He’s concerned about having a strong military nothing else.
I do not blame him
He's had it up to here with it 😂
it's true tho, how do you want to defend your country with these men
You’re never going to run out of traditional masculine men, but the minority of men who aren’t like that, won’t just disappear if you ban what they like.
It’s not a minority in Asia bro😅
It’s affecting the taste for Chinese younger female generation now, those idol group you see aren’t gay or part of the LGBTQ community,they’re targeting the female audience in a really fast speed.the real LGBTQ community just get stuck in this cross fire
@@john7050 Especially South Korea.
What are those losers gonna do? Fight? Haha
Let the cockroaches live under darkness, no one care, when they step into the light they should be stepped on however
I think it's great that China is forcing men to act and be manly in order to be publicly respected and heard , the losers can confine themselves to their mothers basement where they can be safely ignored by society
It's definitely a problem and you're using language to downplay it. But when it becomes more noticeable I'm pretty sure you would move goalposts and say "so what it doesn't matter" LOL. Get off youtube
That's how life is - some men are tough and some are not. Its the same with women - some like wearing pretty frocks but others like wearing trousers and climbing trees. We should not interfere with nature.
Their is nothing natural about their behavior your comment contradicts itself
@@Anonymous-yc9fl who are you to define natural, all culture is made and changed
by humans
@@Anonymous-yc9fl pretty sure they exist in nature therefore they’re “natural”. maybe look up the definition of a word before you use it to spread your bigotry? 🤷♂️
Being transexual is not natural
@Anonymous your ignorance and weird religious morals are actually unnatural bye
One thing I can agree with China on
Let them govern their country. America. Go with your woke bs alone
"If it doesn't break my leg, if it doesn't pick my pocket, what is it to me?"
- Thomas Jefferson
There's a profound irony to the comments in here by people with car/trucks/flowers, the same going "BUT MAH FREDOMZ" now saying "good work" at an authoritatian one-party state for banning yet another form of individual expression.
There's a profound irony in a comment by somebody talking about individual expression and freedom generalizing about everybody that make the same one word comment!
exactly, the hypocrisy is astounding
@@SaneAsylum What, and who, are you defending here, exactly?
I don't agree with most of what China does, but this is a good thing for China and the world needs to follow. Go back to when effeminate men were very rare and same sex marriage was illegal 🙏🏾📖🙏🏻
@@Keepskatin freedom of religion also includes freedom from religion.
P.S. My God told me that you are wrong.
I like how the older man in this states "We have to preserve this unique Chinese culture." But I question which one he means.
There are so many independent cultures in China being stamped out by the Chinese authorities, which one is the "right" one?
Can you name the ones being stamped out? From what I know thats bullshit.
It's also funny considering how much of that culture got destroyed by Mao in the 50s during his purges. The guy hated landlords which was great but he did a lot of damage to Chinese cultural history.
Even more ironic when his idea of “preserving the uniqueness of Chinese culture” is also the same culture that has been quite accepting of homosexuality and feminine men throughout its history. That ironically has been suppressed due to the influence of western colonialism in which he was so against of..
Whatever the party says
I believe the CCP of whatever Han Chinese culture they’re in favor of being the correct one
Sounds good to me. The United States should take lessons from the China govt on this issue. We want real men in the US.
Who cares? Let adults live however they want. It doesn't impact you.
Also, have you never heard of freedom of speech/expression?
What is effeminate men? Even in kpop they also workout.
The best thing Peng can do for masculinity would be to stop worrying about what other guys are wearing. Sounds kinda sissy of Peng ngl
That's not how you solve problems in society.
@@basedblackbeard4456 you don't solve problems by creating ficticious ones that don't truly affect anything
@@2bad610 population growth at minimum must be zero just to maintain society. One young person working won’t be able to support 3 old people on government medical for example. The Japanese’s lead the world in automation because of this and they are literally dying.
@f3mcell no thanks
This is never about woman/man, it's about freedom in GOD's realm, not the religion one++++
To whoever makes the background music on Vices videos... great job. I always find myself liking it alot.
@Black King based on what? Your own speculation? A gun is gonna kill another soldier whether it's wielded by a bodybuilder or a "feminine man."
@Black King I don't understand the rigidity of that mindset. Look at an individuals psychology, skillset, work ethic, political compass, etc. It's all on a spectrum so why would sexuality be any different? Maybe you're just very close minded so you'll never see the intricacies of human beings clearly, or maybe you're smart enough and you'll ponder this comment
@Black King How is it wrong to have long hair or how does even suggest weakness ? same could be said about skirts or makeup. Lot of warriors wore something similar to skirts back in the day.
Thank god someone is finally doing it.
kind of insulting how the people who decided this policy like to think that being a woman and all these 'traditionally masculine' things are mutually exclusive. this isn't just war on trans women or non-binary men or men who like to express themselves in a more feminine way, this is also war on women. by saying that the country is propped on aggressive, masculine men, it excludes people presenting as women and their contribution to the country from the narrative.
You're right, this is the only thing I support china on
Who cares
It benefits society because men spend more time contributing to society
@@iac92 does it really though? do men really spend more time contributing more time in comparison to women? its sad how people (like you) discount and erase women's labour. what about housewives in the home for instance? domestic labour can be quite hard labour- and it is ultimately labour. nurses? nannies? teaching? just because these contributions to society aren't typically performed by men doesn't mean that it's not labour done with human blood sweat and tears
@@_ceriii9905 What are you talking about ...?
@@_ceriii9905 you replied with unrelated things
Really enjoying recent vice content but it all needs to be organized a bit better in playlists as series?
I'm not worried about anyone's sexuality. They need to allow people to be who they are. Environmental catastrophe and nuclear obliteration are more important topics.
This doesn't necessarily mean they are gay. Some will be but if the culture is only to look and act feminine I'm guessing it's not linked. Some gay men are very masculine
These sexually confused people are a threat to society and their insecurity increases violence
They are allowed to be delusional gays!. They aren’t allowed to broadcast it to children however get fucking real man.
not being heterosexual is actually a mental illness and its a threat to society with survival & global development
Exactly, so why is it any of your concern that the freedom of effeminate boys are being threatened?
I understand China's viewpoint, they worked soo hard to birth their sons, not for this to happen .
20% of the world’s population, and they’re still scared that they’ll lose their culture? China is ancient and Chinese people have moved out to live around the world. Their languages and cultures are not threatened in the slightest.
But their nation is threatened.
@@johnsullivan8673 Yes it is. It’s threatened by a massive, crushing system of bribery and corruption and a horribly unjust dictatorship which destroys independent thought, and takes away the people’s hope for any kind of future.
They feel threatened to men who dress as women.
They would be scared their nation would consist less than 55% of men. 🤣🤣🤣
Everybody once thought that American culture will survive.
But now look at the trans epidemic
It's actually hard for me to grasp how people can care so much about something so trivial like physical appearance, to the point of oppressing people and ruining lives. But I guess ignorance never does make much sense
Effeminate men lack the vitality to make a nation progress, just look at japan, a stagnant and decadent nation.
Appearance matter a lot, no one is lining up to date ugly fat women in wheelchairs and short bald men might as well be invisible to women
Everyone discriminates and gets discriminated against, it's simply human nature
Makes sense, China is trying to avoid what is happening in the west, Thailand got it right in the first place anyways
You talk about ignorance but you ignore basic biology itself. You are just another product of a failed educational system and failed parenting.
Conformity can be violent.
The Zesty epidemic is affecting all countries, not just Asians!
Why do they think feminism means being scared, having fears,being weak?
China basically observes the westerns, especially America for the last few years and goes, "It ain't happening in my backyard. I'll make sure of that."
what america is going through right now is called evolution. No one can stop it. if you bottle it up, it will just end up exploding in your face.
Lol, Meanwhile they're probably boosting the weird gender tiktoks in rival countries. The Chinese aren't dumb, that's for sure
Well if EVERYONE goes gay and trans the country ends.
@@deejin25gay, yes. Trans, no.
A guy identifiying as girl is a trans. Yet like banging another girl. He consider himself lesb. So, preg would still occur.
Weird, eh?
And the funny thing is...some westerners do dislike the tr4ns ideology.
Great video, vice! I like the coverage of multiple perspectives in this video.
no way you gave creds to fkn vice
@@Coilzz it’s sooo cool to hate Vice but you’re here watching, commenting, absorbing knowledge and having options. Grow up.
Shame Vice can't do that on countless other topics they cover.
This whole policy is dystopian. Suppressing peoples' identities won't change them. It will just make them dysfunctional people.
@Black King ohh you just showed your third world mindset.
One can be feminine and still be strong, your mind is the weak one.
I am Chinese, and I would like to explain from another angle why Chinese people, especially traditional Chinese people, are worried about such things. China is a nation of history and we have great respect for history books. But according to Chinese history books, when men wear women's clothes and behave in an increasingly feminine way, it is a precursor to the imminent collapse of the dynasty. There are plenty of such accounts and arguments in the history books.
““末喜冠男子之冠，桀亡天下。”“男女之别，国之大节，故服物异等，赞币不同”，“遍身女衣者，尽是读书人”，“男穿女衣，亡国之兆”……”"When Muxi crowned a man's crown, Jie died in the world." "The difference between men and women, the country's great festival, so the clothes should be different "All gentelmen in academia are wearing women's clothes! cry !," "Men wearing women's clothes, the omen of the collapse of the country" ......I don't care if this argument is valid or not, but it does have a profound impact on the Chinese psyche. Chatting about it.
I remember about 30 years ago, when I first went to university and came to Beijing, one of the most open-minded city in China at that time, I saw a man dressed a bit like a woman. Several of my classmates from conservative rural provinces commented that if this man had turned up in our area, he would have been disabled by now because everyone would have beaten him up. I was feeling a bit shocked, and while I don't like males who dress like that either, it's not like I would beat them to disability. I mention this to illustrate two points, firstly, there is a fair degree of resistance to the feminisation of males in our nation, and secondly, after all, society is evolving, and now of course traditionalists will still be offended, but wherever they are, at least they won't be beaten up.
Honestly, for myself and most of the older Chinese around me, especially men, we have been complaining about this for a long time. We are afraid of it and we cannot do anything about it. When the CCP decided to take measures to control the situation, everyone was very supportive and said: this is long overdue!
Just to be clear… banning the show word of honor has nothing to do with “effeminate”. As a fan of the show, I actually looked up pretty hardcore, and it was due to one of the lead actor controversy. So plz do fact check better next time.
Essentially… rules and regulations to ensure an endless supply of mindless soldiers and factory workers.
They already have that, they have 1.4 BILLION people. The US only has like 300 million people. If it's one thing China is not short on it's people.
As opposed to Entitled Cucks and Pansies? I mean you make their argument FOR them. lulz.
Yup. That's their goal.
They want to be the only dominant power in the world. And they need a lot of bodies to do it
Yup and call it the “fighting spirit”!
That isn't necessarily masculine though. The 'Rebellious spirit' is actually not what you'd want if you need mindless workers. So in your paradigm they'd actually not want to push masculinity too far.
I found it sad when he said he chose to cut his hair, stop wearing earrings, and overall conform to the stereotypical masculine ideal look according to the company he started working for because he didn't truly choose that, he felt he had no other choice.he even went on to say he felt comfortable and more himself before making those changes but the problem was always other's reactions and treatment towards him. Life is so short for people to not be able to be themselves.
You do know China is a COMMUNIST and NOT A FREE DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY right?🤨🤔
Meanwhile, Americans are arguing over trans issues and pronouns. LOl. Good bye US.
F all that 😭
@@goldwhitedragon it's a culture war distraction from real issues
Stay sad
That Prof is an absolute hoot! "Sissified"?! 🤣😂
Its culture that determines the individual, it is also the person that knows himself or herself that stands still and footed on all foundations and is/are not confused nor driven or swayed to the things that are harmful and suicidal.
In the west is the collective who determines culture and therefore the individual
Sounds like something right wing media would totally be on board with, instead of worrying about a small minority of people maybe they should live their own lifes and stop trying to control other peoples lives.
You fruitcakes force your abominable habits upon us natural order folk, now it's too far and we want blood if it leads to it.
Yet the minority of people are trying to dictate other people’s children, hijack an entire language and demanding convenience at the expense of others, literally what a parasite would do.
Or have the guts to confront the people that are really the problem. That might require being manly tho
😂🤣 this is a regime with a track record of genocide across decades, a suppression of "gender expression" is just not an issue in comparison. But rather an sign of intensifying authoritarianism.
what genocide?
Mao zedong
Well you can’t change your chromosomes, so I think it’s less of authoritarianism and more like pushing for a society of realists.
@@amandaparker734it has nothing to do with chromosomes. “Realists” don’t suppress natural parts of their personality and expression. It’s just control.
one thing that isn't feminine, the take down of hawaii by the smart city gang
Well done china!!!
I like how all the movies the guy lists are 20+ years old lol
John wick, top gun maverick, avengers, mission impossible, avatar, Batman
@@chatter4427 avengers is pretty gay
Not in a homophobic way, it just is
They’re Asian, they’re all feminine
Cuz those are the famous ones lol, most Chinese people don't keep up with the latest American movies
i have read this phrase somewhere in the past: "...masculinity is hard to earn, easy to loose..."
Shut up incel
Exactly
wait let me read a phrase I red somewhere. “” lemme find a Fck””
“Gender studies expert”..
Translation: professor of insanity or honestly just a professional insane person.
It's sad that China has this figured out and yet it's a bigger and bigger issue here
5:38 How am I supposed to read what's on screen, when narration butts in?
4:17 Old dude dressed for golf has opinions on kids doing their thing.
It’s strange how he’s so concerned with masculinity being wiped out. The fact that some insecure men are so virulently resistant to the existence of more feminine men PROVES there’s so such thing of “masculine men being wiped out”.
He's talking about needing men to go to war, yet he was a professor of sexology. When I think of a masculine hardened soldier, yup professor of sexology is the first that comes to mind. I guess as a teacher he believe's people are taught to be who they are, meaning he also believe's he had no choice in how 'masculine' he is, because he was taught the traditional way to be a man.
@f3mcell is that supposed to be a dig?😭 cmon now out of all the insults you can say to us, THIS is what you have?😭💀
@@JacobSnover Do you think 'sexually liberated' people somehow own the field of sexuality? Scholarship into one of the fundamental parts of the human psyche isn't 'effeminate,' its just knowledge for a purpose. Believe it or not the vast majority of the world is straight and is perfectly comfortable with their sexuality. And the guy's opinions are totally valid if you believe that each human is responsible to their society.
@@OR1000N loser
There has always been feminine men throughout societies, easier times just make them more visible nothing wrong with them leave them be.
"nothing wrong with" thats your subjective opinion. In islamic culture that is considered offense and often punished by death sentece (in saudi arabia for example)
But the Republican party, uh, I mean the Communist Chinese Party, that hates freedom, has outlawed men dressing like women. Hmmm...
@@trader2137 as it should be Saudi Arabia is such a W
@@filthycasual8074 why should they kill people for literally living how they like?
“Easier times just make them more visible” that’s literally the problem. These people are privileged and lucky they don’t go through any hardships in their life. They’ve never had to utilize their ‘masculinity’ because they live in a world where nearly everything is given to them on a silver platter. They don’t hunt, they don’t work, they don’t live in neighborhoods where people will beat them to the curb for looking like that. These people take advantage of their privilege, thinking they have the right to be a degenerate. Was being ‘normal’ really too much to ask for these people? Despite having all this luxury? They are not only ungrateful, but they are also unwise.
Since we're being delusional... Regardless of my salary I identify as a wealthy person that lives on a yacht and I need the government's help to make it real.
Can't blame them.
As a Chinese American, this is the part of the culture and thoughts that I despise to a great deal. The toxic masculinity in China and it's old self-deprecating system. I've never had a low-toned voice, most of the time people would say is feminine. It's not something one can change. I took up smoking because I hated my own voice hoping that it would scratch up my voice and make it less high-pitched. I've never been an active person. I love playing games and being indoors. I used to love being active but something about the dirtiness of the outside world scarred me from enjoying things more masculine like bugs and such. Things like my own voice is out of my control but China will see as, "oh why is your voice so high?" It's not like I can change that.. well maybe with surgery and I'm all for surgery if it makes the person feel better. But I don't feel like surgery will make me feel better.
I don't often wish the worst on my worst enemies, but Xi- I wish the worst of the worst for you. The absolute sickest, most gruesome and cruelest this planet has to offer for you.
Also, why does one thing there's so much hidden LGBT community in China... I'm sure it's not the case but the overly want of having men in past generations and seeing so many men in the culture definitely did have an effect. China's want for males being born and the want to *not* have a daughter.. it's the repercussion of that old ideology. Though it might not be the case as much now, it definitely did have an impact whether they want to acknowledge it or not.
And though there's a heavy acknowledgement on men in Chinese society. In the family hierarchy, we do look up to the eldest female in the family very much.. at least from biographies and my own family experience. That's the educated assumption I can guess.
Honestly, it just feels like the older generation is just holding onto what they lost. "Preserving the culture otherwise its lost" just feels like a last attempt. You can preserve culture while still moving forward. But the way this old man wants is to keep China in its past because those were 'the glory days'.
ABC culture is a sub culture within the US. It's now very far removed from mainland culture. ABCs tend to speak for China as if its the same thing,
Get lost, bad apple!!!
You can enjoy being yourself but stop enticing others to behave like you.
My god your a cry baby…lol
I don’t think ur overlord would care, off you go, to the camps
Now all of China knows you're here.
equality for men!!!
Yeah, men have always had it so rough 🤨😂
We didn't make you obsolete. You did it to yourselves.
@@Jessica-gy6kr terf?
@@Jessica-gy6kr They'll never learn
@@Jessica-gy6kr men are obsolete? Lol. Literally, men are so good we can pretend to be women and get more attention than you. Stfu.
These Chinese are the true alpha males. Dont get a girlfriend, become the girlfriend. 😮
No. These rules signal a country preparing for war concerned with the quality of soldiers.
Spot on
GOOD! Men should be Men!!
so basically, it's about the military?
China looked at what's happening in US and said " over my dead body"😂😂
😂😂😂😂
I don’t think China Government cancelled anything or anyone. They are old and very conservative.
"Patriarchy", they full their mouth with this word, it's a self explanatory, umbrella word(for everything they don't like or understand)
Easy times lead to weak men, weak men leads to hard times, hard times lead to hard men.
Pretty sure it was the "hard men" who started WWII.
@@leifanderson3487 treaty of versailles started WWII
Germany shouldve never been blamed for WWII and forced into economical ruins because of reparations
The professor is right on that Korean and Japanese pop culture is definitely more feminine than North American and European depictions of men
Except French and Dutch.
But, they're still men. Feminine or not they're still men. I understand people feeling iffy about trans people, but feminine/masculine in any gender is a problem?
Grow up. I'm surprised people are born this uncultured.
Great. Protect your culture from alphabate mafia
At least China understands the importance of masculinity.
Conservatives, masculinity, patriotism, and war. What a combo.
A communist fedora who says the sissy men is a product of the United States to control the world.😂
The combo that withstood the test of time 😅
Very masculine to lie about claims and stealing IP
@@ShitBagSPC The winning combo immemorial. Rome learned the hard way like we are about to
You just described Communism. Yeah, Cmmunist weren't modern Starbucks progressives
100% there will be endless unironic endorsement from people living in the West of this dystopian overreach into peoples lives.
Wouldn't have happened if these people didn't invade our privacy by using their social media in the first place. Wouldn't have happened if these people didn't try to expose our children to their sissy behavior.
@@Khabasalainganba lol, you’re the responsible party if you have children to ensure they watch acceptable content. I imagine this is when you’ll go into a litany of occurrences when in every facet of life sissy trans or drag queens came up to your family and shoved their views down you and your family throats, give me a break. You’re looking for a target and voila!
@@Khabasalainganba how are people invading YOUR privacy when they use THEIR social media? You’re responsible for the content you watch on there or if you’re on there at all. It’s amazing to see somebody go full throttle into total unabashed helpless victim hood
@@HM-kg8so I didn't search for their contents. They popped up. We can't control what pops up on our feed. So when our children use social media platforms for productive use they are also exposed to such degrading contents. Abnormalities should be treated as Abnormalities rather than trying to impose them upon us.
@@Khabasalainganba Or you don't let your kids have unrestricted access to the internet. That's much more likely to succeed than policing people's behavior, which has never worked in human history.
Again the question comes up, why are you going on websites that will show you gay porn if that's so offensive to you? Mind your own business or people are going to be digging into the fact that you keep watching gay porn over and over again, as admitted by yourself.
I knew I liked China for some reason 😂😂😂😂
so you support them banning freedom? I can see both of you love authoritarianism.
An country should always want masculine military aged men. At least if you want a good military.
Masculinity doesn't always give strong men. Even masculine men flee from the lines once morale is destroyed. :)
China took the I’ll Make a Man Out of You song too seriously
*@*Nate Reynolds** Too brilliant: i love it 😁💖💖...!!