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I loved the two about luxury yachts and hotels. I want to have money but I would never want to be part of what those millionaire billionaires do. Those videos were frightening
There was a few attendants of Elon Musk who claimed this. People didn't react well. Either they didn't believe them, or believed them and blamed them for taking the job.
I get £17 an hour, as an interior visual technician , and a fraction of the basura these people get. I'm so over flying too...looking forward to a 14 day cruise, departing from Southampton..stick your shopping malls, with no comfortable seating, pubs that make you eat , to have a seat, loads of unruly kids, and adults, stinking small seats, no free snacks, even if they were overloaded with salt...no free foxes sweets, for ear popping on take off and landing.....yeah, stick your airports where the sun don't shine.. Oh, that's here in the UK, most winter!!!😂
My sister was a flight attendant and she even went to school for it. My cousin told me a lot of people hated her including co-workers just cuz she didn't need surgery to improve her looks, her body, didn't drink alcohol or use drugs. She eventually went back to school and became a Surgical Technician and resigned as a Flight Attendant.
I applied to be a flight attendant back in the early 2000s. They told me in the interview that maintaining a very small weight is a part of the job description because the flight attendants have to be tiny to fit down the halls. A couple of friends of mine who were flight attendants talked me out of it because they said they were always expected to sleep with the pilots. This was in the US.
My Mom was a flight attendant when she first came from Ethiopia to the US in the early 90's and she told me she had special privileges, and her salary was higher than some of the other attendants, she got picked out with couple of other ladies to attendant to certain guests she was offered free things too outside of the airlines, and was asked to work at a bar with some other attendants but she rejected it since she wanted to be in the right state of mind when working. I told her why you don't become one again then if they paid well? she said, "look at me" Shes gain weight and had kids and said no chance of her getting a job back at American airlines. I didn't understand what she meant fully until watching this video.
I remember a flight attendant that pulled down the window blinds for me when I was sleeping. I was a quiet, shy teenager, usually invisible to people, and it melted my heart because it was so nice and I never asked for it. Later when I woke up I got hot buns for a flight breakfast and I loved them so much I remember them all those years later. It breaks my heart to learn how awfully those people are treated. For how nice they have always been to me, I would love to give them all the good things in this world, but they get all the bad things and it's not fair, it's so much not fair.... They don't deserve that!
@@michellewall6748 of course you are! I never told my flight attendants this, but I am always very very grateful for your service and your care. I know working with people is the hardest job and it takes its toll. Wish you all the best, love you all!
I've only flown a couple times, but when I was a young boy, I had to fly to visit my father all by myself, because my brother threw a fit and wouldn't go. I remember a very nice female flight attendant personally looking out for me, which I am grateful for fifty some years later.
@@er_5406there are some people who go the extra step in their job and take pride in what they do your comment tells me this is something your not used to
@@er_5406 And how do you know the nice female flight attendant from fifty years ago wasn't actually being helpful to Mr. Wright and instead just "doing her job"? Were you seated near if not next to Mr. Wright on that flight and you observed their interaction? Or are you the brother who threw a fit and wouldn't go? Or is this just wild conjecture and you know neither Mr. Wright nor the nice female flight attendant that helped him from-Adam?
I worked as a flight attendant in Northern Europe and it wasn't like this. Any harassment or misbehaviour of customers, and we would give them a warning and have the guards waiting for them at the arrival gate. No hard beauty standards either, we had all sizes of both women and men. The negative things I witnessed was some unruly customers, gossip and power games by seniors. Then the constant pressure change in the body and short nights really messes up your body. Many were on sleeping pills. And garlic, you can't eat any of that...
have the same experience in South Europe. worked as flight attendant for 10 years - normal pilots, good atmosphere. Annoying passengers here and there but I never had a day where I hated my job. While I dont think the person in the video lies, but I don't like generalization in the comments. The real incidence will never be known and it is not fair to assume that it is all prostitution and moral decay. I feel like they feed these stereotypes that people fantasize about like stewardess and pilot or nurse and doctor or whatever. who can even confirm that the person in the video is not making this up
I work for a US carrier and we don’t experience this either and I still go internationally. But the Asian based airlines are known to be strict so unfortunately it makes sense that abuse and power plays apart in it too 😮
We need more people like you as well, cause my friends and my boyfriends do not care about it and I am a girl who can never shut up about societal political topics
Good to see you're continuing with the Informer series of videos. It's one of the best things VICE have done. I was starting to think you might've brought it to an end due to the length of time since the last video.
I agree but do we really need to see someone in a mask doing a story about what I've known for years so to speak? I've flown to many countries and have friends in the industry that have since retired. There is one region this lady is talking about I guarantee you in terms of the first part of the interview. The rest well some people should get out more and see the world but I'd prefer if they didn't if you fly as much as me. Entitled fu$kwits. Adapt or stay home in your perfect world where you're not challenged.
I work in the aviation industry and without getting into detail, I deal with crew members every day. Some of them are nice, but others also have some of the most entitled attitudes you've ever seen. This really gives some much needed context for that.
I worked in retail after college, guess what: Workers were banging in the restrooms, managers were banging employees (some female btw so u don't think it's only the men), and customers were rude AF I've worked as a teacher, guess what: Teachers were banging each other, banging the young teachers aides, some were messing with kids, oh and bosses and some parents were rude AF If u want to maintain ur mental sanity ppl need to stop being so naive and understand reality, people are human mammals, don't expect anyone to be a saint.
I applied for the flight attendant position recently and I read the website carefully and checked all the requirements. I seemed to be a very good candidate so I thought I would easily get the job. I passed all the exams and the last thing to do was weight, height measurements. I was underweight so they immediately eliminated me, even though they never wrote on their website specifically about that. I had to travel, buy plane tickets and all that just to get eliminated because of weighing 6 kilos less. I was super sad and I thought I lost a huge opportunity but now I can see that I was actually saved from that madness.
I don’t know what part of the world you’re in, but if you can apply for a US carrier that’s what I would suggest. Totally a different experience. I’ve never heard anything close to what this person claims to have experienced. Also US carriers pay their flight attendants very well.
There are several airlines where this doesn't happen. There are good places to work. I believe her but her experience is not everyone's nor every country's experience.
Weight and under not over? Do you really think that’s the reason or they picked it to just eliminate you? Maybe they didn’t want anyone too smart, who knows?
I sat next to a British Airlines pilot on one of my flights and I said “I’d love to be an air hostess!” And he said “Nahhh, be a pilot!” and gave me a look of concern.. I think that was a warning from him.
I took a flight recently in business class of an Asian airline. I dont usually get to do so, but my work was paying so I made the most of it. As expected, the meals were served in courses by the flight attendants, with snacks and other amenities provided throughout. I was just being normally polite, and was understanding when my chosen meal option wasnt available (chose a seat at the back of the cabin, so everyone else had their pick before me, and was thus my own fault). After we landed, the purser told me I was the nicest passenger she'd had in a long time and really appreciated my presence on the flight. I couldn't really understand why: I mean, isn't saying "please" and "thank you" just common courtesy? That's literally all I did. Anyway, watching this video showed me that this "common courtesy" is not "common" to everyone. I like to think most people are nice but, I guess, "most people" fly in economy...
I have worked nearly 15 yrs in the industry and I know how it feels to receive a genuine Thank you and many other appreciations from customers in the airline industry.
This coming from VICE = you can be sure this is either completely fake or exaggerated to the absolute limits to attract more views. How does a flight attendee even get harassed on public flight when there are tens/hundreds of people. Jesus
My wife was a Flight Attendant for 20 years--heard alot of these stories before--She passed away in early 2022. She had great memories of Piedmont Airlines and US Airways--made many many friends and had many stories--some good and some not so good.Some of wild passengers who she handled well and some that were a real problem--love to tell her stories she told me. she handled people with her smile and kindness---her smile would light up the whole cabin--everyone loved her--even her crew mates. FA are the heros of the sky too not just the pilots. She said the Pilots would certainly abuse their power whenever they could. Said many of them and many of them failed to get what they wanted. She said she would call them out if they tried to use their power on her..Stand up for yourself and others--there is a lot of power in a group--definitely when the unions get involved. One FA that I knew stopped passengers from trying to take all of ice off of the plane with them. He put the ice cubes in his mouth and showed the passengers what he was doing---The passengers were not interested any longer and stopped asking for more ice--if passengers would step in sometimes and help the FAs many problems would go away STAND UP for your favorite airline employees. They are not there to be abused just like in th real world.
Yeah, it's called freedom... Are you disappointed by the population of North Korea? Probably not, because they're not free and a lot of them are suffering. Does that mean that freedom is a bad thing? Maybe or maybe not, I don't know!
that’s exactly what the js at vice want. this channel is a sophisticated demoralisation machine. imagine everybody involved in producing these clips rub bing their hands sfter uploading it.
@@Reth_Hard I'm all for freedom, but there are also things called, "restraint", "Self discipline" and "self respect". You can't or shouldn't do anything you want under the guise of, "Hey, it's a free country".
@@ronnie_5150 Yeah but in a free country you can't force the people to be respectful and disciplined, right? The more freedom the government is giving to his people, the more we are getting morons that are using their freedom to be annoying or to even hurt other people...
@@Reth_Hard Agreed, but even in a free country, you cannot do whatever you want. We are a nation of laws. Seems the problem is that wealth, power and privilege can buy you more freedom than the average citizen.
About being prostituted, it's not just in airlines industry. Happens a lot in entertainment industry and even other sectors like corporate settings. I am an engineer myself and I know a colleague who was forced to cater her project manager for a night after she did a miscalculation in her work. She accepted it out of fear because the miscalculation she did could cost a hefty sum. Well, the project manager only ordered some adjustments in procurement team and viola, it was solved. Turns out, he could easily solve it but used the situation to fulfill his desire. It's a brutal world out there, watch out for your sister, wife, and daughter.
I worked for 2 years and 8 months on super yachts for million and billionaires. Me and my head chef watched first hand as rich people commited horrid crimes and when my head chef attempted to report it to the Monaco Port Authority he was arrested on bogus charges then sued for “breach of contract”. Then he was black listed from finding work on boats or on shore. I even tried to quietly report some of the things I witnessed just to have my old employer to call and threaten me and my career less than an hour later. Serving rich people is a horror film.
@@rojdanewroz5797 sex crimes mostly. But drugs, assaults, and general violence. I’ve had Stewards tell me the guests forced them to give them oral sex or one girl even said this one NFL super star that we served forcibly raped her. But as low members of staff we have 0 ability to do anything but tell the captain. And all they do is kick the guests off and tell local authority and we’re always out of country so enough money and no one sees what harm they did
Or just be respectful. I've seen passengers treat flight attendants as if they are personal assistants. Yes they serve food and drinks and provide other comforts, but their #1 job is to keep passengers safe and save lives when necessary.
I know someone who lived in China and worked with a Chinese airline for 5 years, and the beauty standards and sexual harassment stories were unimaginable.
China Airlines were the worst i ever flew with. I felt like a prisoner. The flight attendants were so unfriendly. But maybe because they have their experiences.
I am a flight attendant with a legacy carrier based out of the USA. I've been flying for nearly six years and this job is not worth it. If you are considering please don't go through with it. At least 20% of this job is unpaid, I miss almost 15k in my bank account each year because most airlines in north america do not pay their flight attendants for boarding (and of course delays). This job is hypersexualized and no longer glamorous as it was some decades ago. Each flight I have to tell a passenger to keep their hands off of me, ensure that I am not being filmed, or worry that I won't get punched... all while having a name tag on display. Sure, the weight game has changed in the states but the pay nor the travel is worth this headache.
I worked as a FA - US carrier and this job enabled me to leave a bad marriage. We are randomly drug tested & I don’t remember any of the crew doing drugs.
I work in the travel industry and it’s pretty common for the crew (especially pilots) to do some freaky stuff with one another’s partners and each other. I’m sure there are pilots out there with several families in different countries
Dropping eye drops in a drink is a pretty serious thing, it doesn’t “put them to sleep” it can kill you and best case cause severe abdominal issues and I can’t see how that would help you
It in fact can kill you there is a pretty public case of a woman killing her husband by putting eye drops in his coffee. In his case I think it was daily for several days without medical treatment but that’s seriously dangerous. Eye drops contain tetrahydrozoline which affects blood vessels and can cause all sorts of issues.
@@Livingproof0823 it could be if the eye drops are mixed with alcohol and ingested orally - a chemical reaction quite possibly could occur and one of those symptoms could be drowsiness - perhaps being at a high elevation also causes this mixture of things to cause someone ti get sleepy. Either way this is super irresponsible and illegal on so many levels. I do not think this is any different than normal day to day living - I mean lemon is good in salad dressing but you don't put it in your eyes bc you'd most likely have an adverse reaction. Coconut oil is good for our skin+hair but I don't think my GI track would be happy if I ate it the way I put it on my hair. My shower gel smells yummy but ingesting it would make me sick. Pple drink alcohol but pouring it in your eye and rubbing it on your skin would make it super dry...
I've been hooked to this series of Informer videos. There's so much information in every single one of these that it always makes for an interesting watch. Also shows the realities of said occupations.
These are not "unimaginable". It sucks, but not to that extent. It's not like she was trafficked into slavery or something (compare to some other of these stories).
The contrast between Western/European airlines and Asian/Pacific Airlines is insane. Here in Europe we left those out of proportion beauty demands in the last century. I feel awful for those in Asia who dream to be a flight attendant but can’t achieve that dream because their airline has unfair restrictions
@@thechip2727 I thought this too! Beauty standards mostly are due to the high fashion industry and the media - it started WAY BACK a long time ago when it was decided women should be rail thin, have big eyes, small features, big boobs and teeny tiny tummy's, arms, hips & legs, ohh but the legs should be long tho.... It doesn't matter where you work - I'm a teacher but I've been a highschool student, a university student, a server, worked in liquor store, a bartender - it don't matter - pushing perfectionism and beauty towards women has been a problem for a long long time.
What is unfair about this? Getting hired for your looks is not unfair. People get hired because of their gender, people get hired because of their intelligence, ...
Both of my parents have been flight attendants for 30+ years and I will say that the experience this person had is very different from the experience of people that are flight attendants for american commercial airlines. while there are some struggles with the job, a lot of the tragedy described would NOT fly in a (US) commercial airline. Such as weapons on the plane and being forced to fit a certain size(just to name a few)if u have any questions abt flight attending respond to this and i’ll answer to the best of my ability!
Hiiiiiii doll! I just applied to a very known and reputable company for a flight attendant, in super nervous but also excited. Are there any tips that you can give on what to expect and if it's "a popularity" contest?
The one shocking revelation that I heard in this video clip is the fact that highly poisonous eye drops are sometimes added to airline passengers' drinks by cabin crew to sedate the passengers secretly. That is quite scary to contemplate, considering that the exact dosage of eye drops that could prove lethal may not be known by the cabin crew who use those eye drops as a sedative.
@Oz Man Agreed. I don't touch alcohol and have zero empathy for morons who drink to excess, but that said, I do NOT feel that drunks aboard passenger jets deserve to be poisoned with eye drops.
@@billblaski9523 Yes. According to Google, Visine can have a sedative effect when ingested due to restricting blood-flow. The main concern is that too much (even more than a drop) has the potential to cause cardiac arrest and permanent brain damage.
it's a tough call though- a drunk person can be dangerous, cutting someone off can be dangerous. How else do 5 small women deal with a large drunk man? asking for real. and I know "don't let them get drunk! Taking care of them like a child is everyone elses responsibility"
Sad to hear that she went through some terrible experiences in her career but honestly I am sure there are dark sides to every type of jobs banking, government, companies. A friend of mine was let go from her previous job at a company. Although she was very efficient at her job, the new section manager was trying to push in her former colleagues from previous job. The HR head was also in good terms with her and all it took was just a few oral and written warnings over trivial matters which was practiced by almost every at the office. For example, she took a day's leave because her grandma passed away. She notified the office but failed to inform what she was working on at the moment. She got a written warning for that. The head manager was not interested in her pleas at all. There was no way to contest, no one to report to, no mechanism nothing. She got a nice severence package but she was so devestated that she lost the will to apply for a salary paying job. She is doing well with her own business now.
Govt jobs are totally diff from private jobs, high salary, no need to worry about staying slim or plastics surgeries needed, no sleeping with bosses, cuz govt pays the salary and not the boss, govt employee are their own boss
And the informer is Asian and the way she described it sounds identical to what happens here in China, it’s a society that’s the polar opposite of western countries
I actually think it’s really rude to not care about being caught having sex. It’s awkward for others and I find it pretty selfish when people don’t care that they make other uncomfortable
Yeah, but I kinda laughed at that part. Like really, that's the worst part about the job? That's really not much to complain about. Then I got to the part about beauty standards, sexual abuse, substance abuse, and yeah it's pretty fucked up
I stayed at a hostel recently where a couple came into the dorm at 5am and went into the bunk bed underneath me and started fooling around. I shouted at them and threatened the man and then they stopped. I wasn't allowing it at all. It's the height of disregard for others and it made me so angry.
They should be put on the no fly list. Maybe that would deter people from having relations on a flight. It’s so disgusting to know the next passenger will be seated in that mess. The next time I fly I’ll bring a cheap throw to sit on, as well as wiping off everything I touch with a Clorox wipe.
They definitely don't get paid enough to put up with the crap that they encounter. I don't care what exotic destination you can go to for free, having to deal with sexual perversion, random violence, and sexual harassment is absolutely nuts.
What was described here wouldn't surprise me in some countries. The appearance/beauty standards mentioned were typical here in the US many years ago, but sadly are very real elsewhere.
As some who frequently travels by air for work and pleasure in the U.S., I can personally attest that there is not some lofty beauty standard requirement for being a flight attendant in the U.S.
This isn't an issue of Airlines in Asia, it's an issue of sexism, misogyny, and male chauvinism intertwined into business in Asia. Just mentioning in case someone wants to address this issue, it needs to be addressed at the heart, or it's just treating a symptom.
What you say? This happen in Europe and America. Never in Russia or China or Iran or North Korea. If you want best life, come live in China or North Korea. Not Spain or England.
I work as a flt attendant for 20 years but my company never treat us like this. And captain n crews were like a family member and they were always looking after us. I feel sorry to hear this things happen to some other airlines 😢😢
I worked as a flight attendant for an Asian well known airline for 9 years. I was lucky enough not to experience some of the crazy situations she mentioned. Guess my crew life was a bit boring lol. Pretty sure she was talking about SQ Singapore Airlines.
The suicides and plastic surgery could also align with Korea as for some reason they seem more prone to such things. Though to me the accent didn't sound like it was Korean.
I knew it too, I thought it was Philipine airlines but she talked about a dress being provided and you're expected to use the same dress again, etc... also the accent.
Definitely a Malaysian based airline. The gun story rules out Singapore. The boiling noodles story is from an Air Asia flight from Thailand to China, flight was diverted & the troublemakers fined by a Thai court, they should have been imprisoned. The Chinese government later took away their passports, and rightly so.
Those who don't want to sleep will never sleep with anyone, no matter what happens to their jobs. I know many women in this job just want to be with pilots for a night or two. They can do anything for money. Families no matter how poor will never allow such thing. So, both parties are involved. If it's exploitation, just leave the job.
So much ridiculous the fact that women are even asked to sleep when they should be judged on their performance and techniques is disgusting blah blah not helping the point
We salute these flight attendants. It's not all cupcakes and rainbows with this type of job. They're willing to do whatever it takes to maintain and possibly even reach expectations of customers who go on board the airplane. This is dark in more ways than one. So better keep in mind that while there's nothing wrong with following your own dreams, you always have to be aware of the fact that there will always be negativities that come along with it. Anyway, have a good day. God bless everyone.
If anyone is going into ANY career path thinking they're never gonna have a bad day or meet some crummy customers, coworkers, managers, etc.. Your just begging to live a disappointed life.
@@theroamingsavage8813 True. I'd love to see you in a small space for 14 hours dealing with idiots like theyhave every right to be idiots because they paid for a ticket. Let me guess...you've been upset by a flight attendant? For what reason mate? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I highly doubt you'll respond. Prove me wrong. 😊
@@theroamingsavage8813 I mean, I think being forced to literally prostitute yourself for some rich passenger or client seems a bit more serious than just having a "bad day".
Every job has bad side, if you dont deal with customers then you deal with boss, competitive colleague. We cant keep looking at the negativities to stop follow our dream
In 1967 a flight attendant wrote a book called, “coffee tea or me.” It was an interesting book for that time. Things have changed a little bit in 2023, however a lot of things will never change.
ny husband is a pilot and I know a lot of pilots. I also have many flight attendant friends and none of them have slept with each other. While I’m sure some pilots would love to sleep with the FA, they are too scared of being sued and losing their license. But never have the FA ever mentioned that the pilots made moves on them. But this is in the private sector and not commercial like this FA. I hope that she is able to heal from all these terrible events she’s endured.
Rude customers only exist in Asia? Creepy pilots only exist in Asia? Standards for flight attendants’ weight so they fit through aisles only exist in Asia? I won’t argue that laws protecting them may be better in Australia, but don’t kid yourself, the majority of this stuff is not specific to Asia at all.
@@Account-xm6vj no offense but, standards for weight kind of make sense, they need to be able to easily get back and forth down the plane to do their job most effectively. Not everything boils down to discrimination and bias. Some things have reason.
@@Account-xm6vj Also, there is much in this video which is completely unverified information, believing it at face value is silly. I’m sure flight attendants go through some rough stuff, but I’ve certainly never been on a flight on which I thought my attendant was a meth user or anything of the sort. Although I can see the earlier commenters point, this could be a problem mostly in Asia.
@@rrikimaru You are literally agreeing with me. My 'questions' were sarcastic. This question: Standards for flight attendants’ weight so they fit through aisles only exist in Asia? was to prompt the original commenter to think about what they were saying. Are they saying that standards for flight attendants’ weight so they fit through aisles only exist in Asia? My whole point is that standards for flight attendant's weight DO NOT solely exist in Asia, because they need to be able to fit through aisles. That's NOT an ASIAN thing.
@@rrikimaru You would be surprised on what happens behind the scenes. You wouldn't know what a person is doing behind, if meth or other drugs are being used by just looking at that person during a flight because as you said "believing something at face value is silly". There are recounts of the victims, the persons who have experienced that. Some may believe and some may not. There's also no way you can be sure that this is only happening in Asia. Remember that none believed that churches were abusing kids and still many are reluctant to believe so. There was no way of verifying the information but only the accounts of the abused victims. Sexual harassment at workplace have been one of the most difficult issues to prove in a court even if evidence is available, due to the very high power and several connections of the abusers. But hey to each his own. Many do not believe on these type of things until the same thing happens to them or to someone in their family.
I worked 17 years as a flight attendant in an international commercial airline & less than 5% of these incidents are true to me. With countless friends in other airlines too it's safe to say these are isolated cases. I'm so sorry you had to go through what's usually experiences of several attendants & not one.
Maybe it was a particularly bad airline. Would you have flown in areas where police would not arrest people engaged in these things if you landed? As being banned from the airline seems to be missing criminal charges.
I think this is SQ, judging by the stories and everything I know about them from people who fly for them. their work culture is very toxic. I used to fly in the gulf and I agree with you - I did not encounter such issues in all the years. we also got drug and alcohol tested frequently and if positive, people got fired on the spot. antipsychotics get you grounded immediately. unruly pax get arrested. sexual harassment is a big no no as well - when the perpetrator is a crew member or a pax, doesn't matter, it is taken seriously.
Flight crew hopped up on drugs... Passengers banging in the back... Open weapons smuggling... Sexual and physical abuse... Suicides... Pressured plastic surgery... And you wanna travel for free and see the world?? It ain't free. Every flight is a pound of flesh😢
Sure, because this kind of stuff happens on EVERY flight. And how was the person able to get firearms onto the flight in the first place? That's a better question.
This happens because people don't stand up for themselves and don't know their rights. It doesn't matter if I'm on the job, you assault me, I'll defend myself, period. If not, then we'll solve things outside of work. Legally, or with bare hands. Have it your way 🤷
I'm really glad that she shared this information about an airline stewardess because I really wanted to be one ever since I was a little girl and about 3 months or so ago I decided to apply with American airlines and got an interview with them but I didn't get the job and I was a little hurt and tore up about it I really thought the Lord was trying to stop me from flying but what I do realize is is that God's spared me from the hardship that I would have had to experience in this position as a flight attendant so God bless her for her experience I pray that she overcomes all of the traumas that she had to go through on that journey and made the spirit of God deliver and heal her from every past hurting pain she had to go through on that job bless her soul.
Thank you for being modern. I'm hoping implicit in your viewpoint is the realization that FAs are present primarily for safety reasons, which certainly doesn't require that they look like beauty bots.
Ephesians6:12 it's rulers of darkness(wicked people in power),spiritual wickedness in high place.When satan is the god of this world and this system..of course society will be abnormal I agree.
I dated a flight attendant for a little and pretty much everyday she would encounter a pilot or staff member trying to get into her pants. During her work, she just had a miserable life. It took all of the glamour away.
I was a FA in the early 90’s for a JFK based small commercial airline that flew feeder for El Al and Club Med, this was before 911. I was so disgusted with how we were treated by the passengers that I only lasted three years and had to quit. It was NOT glamorous in any sense and to this day it’s still hard to talk about. We were treated horribly while locked inside that flying tube; had luggage thrown at us daily, meal trays were disgusting and asked if we were “clean” in order to serve them and clean meaning was I on my period. I always had a smell to my uniforms that I could never get out. I would never do that job again.
None of this happens in America - Flight attendants are routinely drug tested, there is no "Beauty Standard" aside from being professional and looking put together. Safety is always a priority and any threats or even disruptive behavior will land you in jail.
@@qendresafulthis video mostly applies to asian airliners. Majority of them require the woman FAs to fit into their beauty standard to appear more attractive and pleasant since they need to represent the face of the airline.
@@qendresaful I agree it’s all a Asia they have the most strict beauty standards even in the society they live in it’s crazy not even Middle East or Europe or USA
Her hair and accent didn't seem like a Chinese,Japanese, or Korean carrier. So I was thinking more Emirates or Qutar...even though that's not seen as Asian. But the smuggling of guns on to a plane. Now your comment sounds more point.
I never knew this. I wish all them all the healing and strength to deal with this. And especially that girl on whom the noodles was thrown and the girl in the video. I wish you all much love and power. No one deserves this. NO ONE
That’s a Southeast Asian accent. Singaporean, Malaysian, maybe Indonesian. It doesn’t mean it’s one of those airlines but all Flagship carriers of said countries have very high, unrealistic image standards. Those carriers also don’t treat them fairly. Not that we’re miles ahead in the states, but still better with room for improvement.
ikr its always been weird to me that flight stewardesses have to look like super models. and yet they have to deal with cavemen-like behaviour of passengers and crew. if i was running airports, i’d force all airlines to have military personnel as flight attendants, that way everyone behaves during takeoff 😂
@@surasura6333 I lived there and I’ve seen drugs in the country. You just have to know where to look if you want it bad enough. I do appreciate their stance on it and know the use is limited to say the least, but they’re there. It does more likely narrow it down to other countries, so you are right to an extent.
@@bhawkpilot4714 I don't believe on you Singapore doesn't tolerate drugs even smuggling guns on the plane they don't tolerate such things they don't ban people who smuggled on the plane but infact they will make those people who did such things will surely land on jail
Remember, her experience is not in America. It’s very different. You can notice the difference at any international airport that host non American carriers. Just look at the FA’s. America FAs are more relaxed because of laws and protections. Sexual harassment is penalized IF you report it working for an American airline. Looks are NOT a requirement anymore so surgery at your own risk baby.
This REALLY makes sense, especially when you always see the flight attendants all dolled up. Now I know why. Now I know I may have to look out for them. Thanks for this.
Being a flight attendant from Asia this is my first time hearing such thing. I have never experience such thing. Dealing with senior crew and unruly passenger is the most difficult part of my job so far but no body no what's going to happen in the future.
I am from Singapore and I hear a Singaporean accent. Most likely from Singapore SIA. 1 male SIA air steward bragged that he had fucked every girl from different race. Never date a fight attendant never faithful
Thank you for sharing this! It is a dark world behind the scene for this industry. Lots of crazy stories and even human trafficing. The couple that threw hot water and threating to blow up the plane should get charge and ban in all airline. She burned the flight attendant's face wth! The captain story heard this alot but the fact that he went knocking on her room and made her trip hell after she rejected him is ridiculous.
Had a dear girlfriend of mine who was a flight attendant for an American carrier. She mentioned having to maintain her weight, keeping up her appearance, etc. My friend is a dead ringer for Mary J. Blige, only she had short hair & was very tall. Very pretty woman.😉She told me years ago the pilots were the most egotistical/aggressive persons to deal with. They would always proposition her, even though she was happily married. Opened my eyes right then!
@@carinaysabel3900 Except that if one is not at least average looking, they will be declined for "other issues". You will not see FAs with facial tattoos, disfigurement, severe balding (women) or noticeable acne. Open you eyes, lol.
Dude , why would a fucking flight attendant for a US airline carrier ever date a person not from the aviation industry ?? I am sorry to break this to you , but flight atrendents have a raunchy and exciting sex life : they are more than contended in being escorts for wealthy patrons , and having boyfriends from multiple countries and probably was going behind your back !!! Dude , take it from me , flight atrendents is the job where pretentiousness wins and honesty can hurt your chances in the industry 😂😂😂
Why would you so readily believe the words of an anonymous character who has absolutely no incentive to tell the truth and is actually encouraged to tell fantastic tales?
I haven't been on an international flight (save Canada) in at least 20 years due to health limitations but at least here in US?Canada I am thrilled to see middle aged, less than supermodel perfect in appearance and confident flight attendants now! I feel as though their experience will aid in keeping people calm and getting us to the best exits, slide, float on a wing, etc. or prepared for an emergency landing. Only jerks are flying to exploit the attendants, projecting their neuroses and inflated egos on the vulnerable and underpaid. These poor people! This makes me so angry. Kudos to the whistleblower! Brave woman, through and through.
mind you, just bc a flight attendant isn’t attractive, it’s not a given that she knows her safety procedures better 🙃 but if it gives you more peace of mind, whatever. a former flight attendant
@@findelka1810 I did a poor job of expressing myself and you caught me! I was trying to say that I am glad to see that (hopefully) these middle aged, professional acting attendants make me feel more confident than someone on some lame charm and cuteness offensive to "ease" any anxiety or state of need for a specific situation I bring with me. All too often the physical attractive in our cultures can progress beyond any inate talent or intelligence they may have. Give me competence and confidence first--no matter what pckage they come in. However, I do think a flight attendant needs to be healthy and not encumbered by too much ballast. Middle aged spread is not what I'm talking about; but Lizzo shouldn't be hired because even in a jumbo jet, the aisles are narrow and at altitude an attendant needs to be on point for a stint of CPR or assisting someone having a grande meal seizure, etc.
There is no way that the entire airline industry is like this. I have two cousins that were flight attendants, and I've never heard of anything like this going on. And I definitely would have.
@@huetran4361 nonsense. 35years experience at one of hte BIGGEST carriers in SE asia, it;s not like this. Beaty standards yes but únattractive people are weeded out during the selction process. They dont make you go through plastic surgery
can confirm - it is not like that flying for middle eastern carriers either. while there are beauty standards, it is more important how you interact with passengers and perform safety-wise. drugs and sexual harassment and completely unacceptable and will get the perpetrator fired immediately. even eye drops - wtf?!
I work at an airport. Flight attendents & pilots constantly flirt with each other. Both are also very skilled at starting and carrying conversations about anything. Hard to take them seriously.
The conversation part is so funny. I always tell people I swear this job turned me into an extrovert and I never used to be one. The skill of talking about any and everything, but also nothing at the same time is something you definitely acquire here. I'm sorry you can't take us seriously. I can't take us seriously either 🤣🤣🤣. But I don't flirt with our pilots. They're all like 50 years old so. Lol
This was an interesting watch! I'd love to see something like this for someone who works in hotels or a head chef! I'm a server and a bartender at a hotel restaurant and the entitlement and mistreatment from guests is insane
I wanted to be a flight attendant since I was 5. I'm greatful that GOD never allowed that to come through. I studied and was on my way to becoming a flight attendant but things always kept going wrong and my spirit kept sayin NO. I am so blessed
This is insane and very shameful. I’m sure the western world doesn’t see half of what this person has gone through but I can imagine it can still get pretty bad for flight attendants here in the states smh
i remember taking korean air frequently as a kid and all the flight attendants are really pretty. now it seems to be super creepy. chinese airlines would have rude old ladies which now seemed pretty cool but having pretty ladies in service is still very big part of chinese airlines.
being an actual Flight Attendant.. working for the biggest lowcost airline. i can feel those stories.. we had alot of times issues.. sometimes crying in the galley because the aviation industry is really hard. And huge. It’s like you have to compare Aviation with modelling world. Like, this makes me really sad, why are we doing this to our selves? Even you love to be a flight attendant
@@queencupcake09 well, look example to Emirates, Qatar Air asia. And many huges airlines same to Singapore airlines you have to fit in to the beauty standards
my university classmate is a flight attendant... not surprised by the stories she has told. FA's also have the power too... like when they're in a specific city and there's big time artists (males), they get access to it because its mutual and you know how it goes and they sure are groupies in that sense. So not saying they're always the victims here. Moral of the story is... don't date any famous or super rich. they're part of the community and world and "it" gets shared.
I absolutely believe this. I remember seeing the way people in the plane would just STARE at flight attendants. They are just such a strange type of career idk how to explain it.
My daughter's mom has been a flight attendant for four years. Never heard any ish like this. It's a job and not for everyone. Like working in an office is not for me.
my mom was a flight attendant, and she mentioned a story that stuck w me. Herself and her colleague were on a flight, and one of the passengers (a married man) looked at the flight attendant. His wife got jealous and splashed hot tea all over her. fkd up
I liked this story and I believe every word said, and probably the thousands if not more unsaid. Passangers and crew alike can be disgusting, immoral and the industry a total facade. Thank you for sharing and I am glad you left the industry. You deserve much, much better
I warned my cousin sister about this job. I already knew any industry 'required' you to be beutiful is basically whoring yourself to survive. Now she left her job after 4 years before covid , occasionally overcleaning herself till she hurt herself in shower, over grooming her hair till she pull atleast handfull of her hair. Basically hurt herself so much that we started noticing her bruises. During covid lockdown times it was almost impossible to get a pshyciatrist. I didnt got the hint at first why she was doing to herself. But my mum understood early. It was a hell of a year for us not because of pandemic but because the time we have to spend to give her love and assurance and keeping a strict eye over her activity. My mum removed every possible locks and latches from our doors including bathroom fearing for her taking any stupid step to hurtself again. Now she is okay after we got the professional help. Also went back to her home and came back more renewed and brave. She is now doing some online courses and probably gonna apply for hospitality degree in Australia. She never told me what happened to her but i am glad that my Didi is back.
I am a flight attendant for over 35 years, i fly for a major US airline. This person is referring to what is called Flag carriers. That means airlines like Air France, Qatar, British Airways, Air Canada, China Air etc. Airlines that are owned and operated by the countries they fly for. They are far stricter than US airlines that are privately owned and Federally supervised. I first started at TWA and back in the day when i began when we were called "Stewardesses" there were indeed many of these beauty standards and weight restrictions that this flight attendant mentioned. But these restrictions were let go of as the airlines were facing too many civil rights lawsuits concerning these harsh and limiting beauty regulations. Up to an including past weight, age and marital status restrictions.
I worked for TWA from 1979-1986! I loved that job. During my short time I traveled the world on my own (the world was a much kinder place) lol. I had good friends. I am retired now but I still remember those fond days. So nice to read your comment.
That is some heavy externalising of one's own decisions. Nobody is forcing you to work in that industry, to take drugs to comply with the beauty standards, etc.
It was really unfortunate what happened to her. Hope she can cope or better yet, recover from depression soon. However, I worked as a flight attendant for 7.5 years with a well-known middle-eastern airline and I have never heard of what she mentioned in the earlier part of the video, or maybe those were individual cases. But first, the plastic surgery part is true. Although I didn't personally do it, I've heard about fellow crew who did. But nowadays, people are going under the knife in the name of beauty no matter what profession they are in. Illegal drug-use in my former company was quite impossible as random checks are conducted frequently. If violation is found, the crew member will be fired on the spot. Regarding prostitution to powerful figures, I've never heard of it in my 7.5 years of flying and trust me, news travels fast in this industry. I believe there are people who are willing to sell themselves in exchange for wealth and power, but that was out of their own accord. If she or people she knows were forced into this, then I really hope they will just quit the job because it is really not worth it. I have heard rumours about putting eye drops into drinks but that was to give someone diarrhoea, instead of putting them to sleep. Never tested it out so I'll never know😂 And I guess I was just unlucky to have never stumbled upon passengers having sex onboard, would love to encounter that🤣 Only had a couple in 1st class cabin, whereby the man complained about the open-top design of the suites that wouldn't allow them to do the deed in privacy. So we put them on the observation list to make sure they don't do that during the flight, to the extent of not allowing them to schedule the use of the two onboard showers at the same time to prevent just that. Yes, there were a lot of disruptive and unruly pax whom we usually handle with a warning. If that doesn't stop them and they pose a danger to themselves, others and/or the aircraft, we will proceed to restrain and call airport security to meet the aircraft and take them away. It was true what she said about some flight deck crew members power-tripping though. Grooming was indeed annoying so I am thankful that I only had minor problems with that. No one should go through what she had to go through so I really hope that if anyone finds themselves in her situation, just leave. Before it's too late.
I thought it was kind of silly for her to say that heroin, meth ect is used to keep weight down. I mean, they'll just be strung out and look in bits, lose their job. As you said, regular drug tests. Like who uses heroin for weight loss. Youd be financially and physically better off getting surgery ffs
@@karlagordon4555 Exactly. I thought that was really weird too. In fact, everything she said in the earlier part of the video sounded like an entirely different job to me😂
I also flew in the Middle East and can confirm everything you said. the drug use part was really like wtf?! we had some crew that got into it and they quickly got fired because we all got tested for drugs. I never did any plastic surgery but I do have friends who have - some are flight attendants and some are not, so it is really not specific to cabin crew lol. the way she talked about the uniform, her accent and how pax get away with everything makes me think she's talking about SQ.
as a current flight attendant let’s also keep in mind how different the industry is in the USA and around the world the USA has laxxed a lot of these standards and depending on the airline you work for the safety of our crews is important so most of us here don’t experience what has been said above but at the same time everything this person said like every single thing is so incredibly true and reality for many flight attendants around the world including the US and it’s sad very sad and discerning
As a current airplane I can attest to everything the woman in the video said. And the real hookups and drugs go on in the private crew rest area above the passengers. It is terrible to have all that going on in my belly while I am just trying fly you humans around the world.
I think it should be clarified this is the experience of crew from specific airlines in specific regions. For many crew in western companies, this is nothing like the experience. You can be drug tested or breathalysed at random times so very few dabble in drugs and alcohol like that. And surgery is purely a personal choice 😂
For having a little travelling experience, I totally agree with you it shouldn't be generalised as a whole industry situation, as it seems to be portrayed.
@@Cloudyvi I totally agree with you. It should not even be generalised as a situation for the industry in Asia. For sure, it does not happen in Singapore. There are drug tests. Moreover, God forbid if you are caught. We have capital punishment for drug offenses here. Based on the accent of the interviewee, I am definitely sure the individual is not from East Asia (ie China, Korea, Japan, Taiwan). The accent also doesn't sound like the person is from Malaysia, Singapore, Vietnam or Thailand.
I think for major, reputable national airlines too, the random tests means the crew cannot afford to risk drinking alcohol or taking drugs at any given time
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Thanks for this VICE. Keep them coming
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I love this series. It's practically undoing the social media effect, unglamorising all these overly hyped up jobs. Excellent work, team VICE.
I loved the two about luxury yachts and hotels. I want to have money but I would never want to be part of what those millionaire billionaires do. Those videos were frightening
@@raysquiggz Yes just pretend they R all doing more horrible things than poor people so U can pretend 2 think U R '$uperior' =))
Since when is a flight attendant a hyped up job?
@@corail53 when ever they started getting their teeth knocked out
It's literally actors in masks reading scripts. None of this is true.
We need someone from the music industry, the world will be shocked
Oke Kanye
@@killerluuk exactly. ...and DMX, there are people who speak out...but I guess we need an in depth
There was a few attendants of Elon Musk who claimed this. People didn't react well. Either they didn't believe them, or believed them and blamed them for taking the job.
The entertainment industry as a whole
Doubt it would be shocking, a lot of music industry shenanigans are well known.
"the pay isnt worth all of the struggles i had to endure"
That brought me to tears. This world is so sick. i pray you find some healing.
I get £17 an hour, as an interior visual technician , and a fraction of the basura these people get.
I'm so over flying too...looking forward to a 14 day cruise, departing from Southampton..stick your shopping malls, with no comfortable seating, pubs that make you eat , to have a seat, loads of unruly kids, and adults, stinking small seats, no free snacks, even if they were overloaded with salt...no free foxes sweets, for ear popping on take off and landing.....yeah, stick your airports where the sun don't shine..
Oh, that's here in the UK, most winter!!!😂
Why did they stay when they could have walked away
@@LubovUg You want abolishmetn of flight attendant job?
My sister was a flight attendant and she even went to school for it. My cousin told me a lot of people hated her including co-workers just cuz she didn't need surgery to improve her looks, her body, didn't drink alcohol or use drugs. She eventually went back to school and became a Surgical Technician and resigned as a Flight Attendant.
Ofcourse you go to school for flight attendance
@@stuartchilongozi2439 Yes you do they dont hire everyone.
@@stuartchilongozi2439 right?! haha they don't just hire you off the streets. Imagine though lol
Thats excellent progress what a great future she will have CONGRATULATIONS to her.
@@stuartchilongozi2439 Not necessarily. It depends on the country.
I applied to be a flight attendant back in the early 2000s. They told me in the interview that maintaining a very small weight is a part of the job description because the flight attendants have to be tiny to fit down the halls. A couple of friends of mine who were flight attendants talked me out of it because they said they were always expected to sleep with the pilots. This was in the US.
dang!
I believe it. A lot of those pilots are married and have girlfriends all over.
Not anymore. I’ve been on several flights with very large attendants
My Mom was a flight attendant when she first came from Ethiopia to the US in the early 90's and she told me she had special privileges, and her salary was higher than some of the other attendants, she got picked out with couple of other ladies to attendant to certain guests she was offered free things too outside of the airlines, and was asked to work at a bar with some other attendants but she rejected it since she wanted to be in the right state of mind when working. I told her why you don't become one again then if they paid well? she said, "look at me" Shes gain weight and had kids and said no chance of her getting a job back at American airlines. I didn't understand what she meant fully until watching this video.
Wow what in the damn world
I remember a flight attendant that pulled down the window blinds for me when I was sleeping. I was a quiet, shy teenager, usually invisible to people, and it melted my heart because it was so nice and I never asked for it. Later when I woke up I got hot buns for a flight breakfast and I loved them so much I remember them all those years later. It breaks my heart to learn how awfully those people are treated. For how nice they have always been to me, I would love to give them all the good things in this world, but they get all the bad things and it's not fair, it's so much not fair.... They don't deserve that!
Thankyou for this….we are good people just making a living…..
@@michellewall6748 of course you are! I never told my flight attendants this, but I am always very very grateful for your service and your care. I know working with people is the hardest job and it takes its toll. Wish you all the best, love you all!
hospitality workers deserves so much more
They aren't treated awfully.
@dodaz5604 ...did you watch the video?
this series taught me that every line of work just sucks, is emotionally and mentally draining, and you shouldn't do it.
So everybody shouldn't work anywhere and starve?
Excactly. Just quit and get another job.
You should switch up the word 'every' to 'some'.
@@hanh7395 No, I literally mean every. Spare not a single one. They all say just. As well every line of work someone will say it too.
Best to go into business by yourself.
I've only flown a couple times, but when I was a young boy, I had to fly to visit my father all by myself, because my brother threw a fit and wouldn't go. I remember a very nice female flight attendant personally looking out for me, which I am grateful for fifty some years later.
Then return the favor by protecting women and voting for a good one when he comes along
Welcome to the mile high club.
@@mountain85 It wasn't a favor. She was just doing her job.
Sorry to kill the butterflies...
@@er_5406there are some people who go the extra step in their job and take pride in what they do your comment tells me this is something your not used to
@@er_5406 And how do you know the nice female flight attendant from fifty years ago wasn't actually being helpful to Mr. Wright and instead just "doing her job"? Were you seated near if not next to Mr. Wright on that flight and you observed their interaction? Or are you the brother who threw a fit and wouldn't go? Or is this just wild conjecture and you know neither Mr. Wright nor the nice female flight attendant that helped him from-Adam?
I worked as a flight attendant in Northern Europe and it wasn't like this. Any harassment or misbehaviour of customers, and we would give them a warning and have the guards waiting for them at the arrival gate. No hard beauty standards either, we had all sizes of both women and men. The negative things I witnessed was some unruly customers, gossip and power games by seniors. Then the constant pressure change in the body and short nights really messes up your body. Many were on sleeping pills. And garlic, you can't eat any of that...
have the same experience in South Europe. worked as flight attendant for 10 years - normal pilots, good atmosphere. Annoying passengers here and there but I never had a day where I hated my job. While I dont think the person in the video lies, but I don't like generalization in the comments. The real incidence will never be known and it is not fair to assume that it is all prostitution and moral decay. I feel like they feed these stereotypes that people fantasize about like stewardess and pilot or nurse and doctor or whatever. who can even confirm that the person in the video is not making this up
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International v domestic
I work for a US carrier and we don’t experience this either and I still go internationally. But the Asian based airlines are known to be strict so unfortunately it makes sense that abuse and power plays apart in it too 😮
I agree with u @@gordanramsy4022
Please continue to do this series!! I love how raw and unfiltered it is. I learn a lot.
So it turns you on? 😈
I gotta watch the one where they talk about how all these drugs are coming into the country. Stuff you would never think of.
We need more people like you as well, cause my friends and my boyfriends do not care about it and I am a girl who can never shut up about societal political topics
Hunter Biden is a wild and crazy guy.
What'd you learn?
Good to see you're continuing with the Informer series of videos. It's one of the best things VICE have done. I was starting to think you might've brought it to an end due to the length of time since the last video.
I agree but do we really need to see someone in a mask doing a story about what I've known for years so to speak?
I've flown to many countries and have friends in the industry that have since retired. There is one region this lady is talking about I guarantee you in terms of the first part of the interview.
The rest well some people should get out more and see the world but I'd prefer if they didn't if you fly as much as me.
Entitled fu$kwits. Adapt or stay home in your perfect world where you're not challenged.
Love these Informer episodes!
@@charlene8239 honestly they’re so interesting
I left the same comment last one dropped over three months ago, they need to stay consistent with it
Thumbed up on 999 for the 1K! But I agree, great series.
This should be a wakeup call to all airline companies. A job should be something you are passionate about and not a prison.
Well said!
I work in the aviation industry and without getting into detail, I deal with crew members every day. Some of them are nice, but others also have some of the most entitled attitudes you've ever seen. This really gives some much needed context for that.
I worked in retail after college, guess what:
Workers were banging in the restrooms, managers were banging employees (some female btw so u don't think it's only the men), and customers were rude AF
I've worked as a teacher, guess what:
Teachers were banging each other, banging the young teachers aides, some were messing with kids, oh and bosses and some parents were rude AF
If u want to maintain ur mental sanity ppl need to stop being so naive and understand reality, people are human mammals, don't expect anyone to be a saint.
@TheRoaming Savage people being mammals, I disagree people are more of a animal then a mammal who can't control there sexual urge.
@@joeyreidelbach5509 well, humans are animals so like she said, they shouldn’t expect saints
Good story
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I applied for the flight attendant position recently and I read the website carefully and checked all the requirements. I seemed to be a very good candidate so I thought I would easily get the job. I passed all the exams and the last thing to do was weight, height measurements. I was underweight so they immediately eliminated me, even though they never wrote on their website specifically about that. I had to travel, buy plane tickets and all that just to get eliminated because of weighing 6 kilos less. I was super sad and I thought I lost a huge opportunity but now I can see that I was actually saved from that madness.
I don’t know what part of the world you’re in, but if you can apply for a US carrier that’s what I would suggest. Totally a different experience. I’ve never heard anything close to what this person claims to have experienced. Also US carriers pay their flight attendants very well.
@@Powertothepeople7 hmm I see but unfortunately I don't live in the US
it depends on where you live, in Asia the industry is very different.
There are several airlines where this doesn't happen. There are good places to work. I believe her but her experience is not everyone's nor every country's experience.
Weight and under not over? Do you really think that’s the reason or they picked it to just eliminate you?
Maybe they didn’t want anyone too smart, who knows?
I sat next to a British Airlines pilot on one of my flights and I said “I’d love to be an air hostess!” And he said “Nahhh, be a pilot!” and gave me a look of concern.. I think that was a warning from him.
I took a flight recently in business class of an Asian airline. I dont usually get to do so, but my work was paying so I made the most of it. As expected, the meals were served in courses by the flight attendants, with snacks and other amenities provided throughout. I was just being normally polite, and was understanding when my chosen meal option wasnt available (chose a seat at the back of the cabin, so everyone else had their pick before me, and was thus my own fault). After we landed, the purser told me I was the nicest passenger she'd had in a long time and really appreciated my presence on the flight. I couldn't really understand why: I mean, isn't saying "please" and "thank you" just common courtesy? That's literally all I did.
Anyway, watching this video showed me that this "common courtesy" is not "common" to everyone. I like to think most people are nice but, I guess, "most people" fly in economy...
I completely agree with you; thank you for sharing.
Service industry in Asia is completely messed up.
In my initial customer service training we were told “Common sense is the least common of all senses”. Boy were they right!
I have worked nearly 15 yrs in the industry and I know how it feels to receive a genuine Thank you and many other appreciations from customers in the airline industry.
You think you are morally better because you fly business class, what a clown
Absolutely love these masked shows. They can be totally honest when they know their identity is being protected.
This coming from VICE = you can be sure this is either completely fake or exaggerated to the absolute limits to attract more views. How does a flight attendee even get harassed on public flight when there are tens/hundreds of people. Jesus
Yeah, right. It's the same person every time and they make stuff up as they go.
They can also completely lie without consequence
...Or they can lie while hiding their shitty acting.
The fact they feel they have to be masked should tell you all you need to know about airline corporations and other corporations. We need change.
My wife was a Flight Attendant for 20 years--heard alot of these stories before--She passed away in early 2022. She had great memories of Piedmont Airlines and US Airways--made many many friends and had many stories--some good and some not so good.Some of wild passengers who she handled well and some that were a real problem--love to tell her stories she told me. she handled people with her smile and kindness---her smile would light up the whole cabin--everyone loved her--even her crew mates. FA are the heros of the sky too not just the pilots. She said the Pilots would certainly abuse their power whenever they could. Said many of them and many of them failed to get what they wanted. She said she would call them out if they tried to use their power on her..Stand up for yourself and others--there is a lot of power in a group--definitely when the unions get involved. One FA that I knew stopped passengers from trying to take all of ice off of the plane with them. He put the ice cubes in his mouth and showed the passengers what he was doing---The passengers were not interested any longer and stopped asking for more ice--if passengers would step in sometimes and help the FAs many problems would go away STAND UP for your favorite airline employees. They are not there to be abused just like in th real world.
People never cease to disappoint me
Yeah, it's called freedom...
Are you disappointed by the population of North Korea? Probably not, because they're not free and a lot of them are suffering.
Does that mean that freedom is a bad thing? Maybe or maybe not, I don't know!
that’s exactly what the js at vice want. this channel is a sophisticated demoralisation machine. imagine everybody involved in producing these clips rub bing their hands sfter uploading it.
@@Reth_Hard I'm all for freedom, but there are also things called, "restraint", "Self discipline" and "self respect". You can't or shouldn't do anything you want under the guise of, "Hey, it's a free country".
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Yeah but in a free country you can't force the people to be respectful and disciplined, right? The more freedom the government is giving to his people, the more we are getting morons that are using their freedom to be annoying or to even hurt other people...
@@Reth_Hard Agreed, but even in a free country, you cannot do whatever you want. We are a nation of laws. Seems the problem is that wealth, power and privilege can buy you more freedom than the average citizen.
About being prostituted, it's not just in airlines industry. Happens a lot in entertainment industry and even other sectors like corporate settings. I am an engineer myself and I know a colleague who was forced to cater her project manager for a night after she did a miscalculation in her work. She accepted it out of fear because the miscalculation she did could cost a hefty sum. Well, the project manager only ordered some adjustments in procurement team and viola, it was solved. Turns out, he could easily solve it but used the situation to fulfill his desire. It's a brutal world out there, watch out for your sister, wife, and daughter.
What a predator😖😔
AND YOUR BROTHERS AND FATHERS. Men are victims just as much as women. They just don't talk as much about it for one reason or another.
Men, amiright?
@@Xwrt532MEN are the ones making everybody victims...please stfu
That is sexual coercion!!! Isn't that a crime?! 😮
I worked for 2 years and 8 months on super yachts for million and billionaires. Me and my head chef watched first hand as rich people commited horrid crimes and when my head chef attempted to report it to the Monaco Port Authority he was arrested on bogus charges then sued for “breach of contract”. Then he was black listed from finding work on boats or on shore. I even tried to quietly report some of the things I witnessed just to have my old employer to call and threaten me and my career less than an hour later. Serving rich people is a horror film.
What kind of crimes?
It can be!
@@rojdanewroz5797 sex crimes mostly. But drugs, assaults, and general violence. I’ve had Stewards tell me the guests forced them to give them oral sex or one girl even said this one NFL super star that we served forcibly raped her. But as low members of staff we have 0 ability to do anything but tell the captain. And all they do is kick the guests off and tell local authority and we’re always out of country so enough money and no one sees what harm they did
So I’ve heard. Crew are expected to sleep with them or get same punishment
I always make a point of being super nice to all flight attendants. Tough job.
Wow what an amazing person you are
Be nice to everyone.
Or just be respectful. I've seen passengers treat flight attendants as if they are personal assistants. Yes they serve food and drinks and provide other comforts, but their #1 job is to keep passengers safe and save lives when necessary.
Do you really think it’s a tough job being “super” nice? It’s really not difficult at all to treat someone respectfully.
Everyone has a tough time doing their job and those doing it properly definitely need respect.
I know someone who lived in China and worked with a Chinese airline for 5 years, and the beauty standards and sexual harassment stories were unimaginable.
at what point do you blame the idiot people staying at these jobs so long..dumb people
China Airlines were the worst i ever flew with. I felt like a prisoner. The flight attendants were so unfriendly. But maybe because they have their experiences.
@@HerrPorinski Air China or China Airlines? China Airlines is from Taiwan.
make your friend tell the stories she knew on this comment section
Lol trying flying with Cathay while speaking Mandarin...
I am a flight attendant with a legacy carrier based out of the USA. I've been flying for nearly six years and this job is not worth it. If you are considering please don't go through with it. At least 20% of this job is unpaid, I miss almost 15k in my bank account each year because most airlines in north america do not pay their flight attendants for boarding (and of course delays). This job is hypersexualized and no longer glamorous as it was some decades ago. Each flight I have to tell a passenger to keep their hands off of me, ensure that I am not being filmed, or worry that I won't get punched... all while having a name tag on display. Sure, the weight game has changed in the states but the pay nor the travel is worth this headache.
I worked as a FA - US carrier and this job enabled me to leave a bad marriage. We are randomly drug tested & I don’t remember any of the crew doing drugs.
I finally quit after five years. It is not worth the hype
Where did they touch u?
I work in the travel industry and it’s pretty common for the crew (especially pilots) to do some freaky stuff with one another’s partners and each other. I’m sure there are pilots out there with several families in different countries
Yup, and both are complicit and willing adult humans.
You right, but my co-pilot's my wife. We get freaky everywhere we fly to, during the flight, after the flight, with the flight.
I just met two pilots who met each other while cheating on their spouses, also pilots
@@escapetarkov3838 which airline do u work for?
@@wildman_69 lol!😂
As a flight attendant student in Singapore I’ve heard a lot of things about our airline and this video honestly doesn’t surprise me
isnt singapore airlines meant to be the best in the world
Flight attendants are the nicest people ever and they do so much. Props to all the flight attends out there.
Probably from the drugs
@@iamnotjack.whydidichangewe get drug tested….just like pilots….thanks for your nasty remark!!!
@@iamnotjack.whydidichange They can't do drugs
@@dodaz5604 *shouldnt
Dropping eye drops in a drink is a pretty serious thing, it doesn’t “put them to sleep” it can kill you and best case cause severe abdominal issues and I can’t see how that would help you
The obvious question is is this just ordinary eye drops or is there a sedative infused in the eye drops?
@@Livingproof0823 It's called Visine.
And it's not gonna kill ya, might make you get the runs though.
It in fact can kill you there is a pretty public case of a woman killing her husband by putting eye drops in his coffee. In his case I think it was daily for several days without medical treatment but that’s seriously dangerous. Eye drops contain tetrahydrozoline which affects blood vessels and can cause all sorts of issues.
@@Livingproof0823 it could be if the eye drops are mixed with alcohol and ingested orally - a chemical reaction quite possibly could occur and one of those symptoms could be drowsiness - perhaps being at a high elevation also causes this mixture of things to cause someone ti get sleepy. Either way this is super irresponsible and illegal on so many levels. I do not think this is any different than normal day to day living - I mean lemon is good in salad dressing but you don't put it in your eyes bc you'd most likely have an adverse reaction. Coconut oil is good for our skin+hair but I don't think my GI track would be happy if I ate it the way I put it on my hair. My shower gel smells yummy but ingesting it would make me sick. Pple drink alcohol but pouring it in your eye and rubbing it on your skin would make it super dry...
please Vice, don't stop with the Informer series
I've been hooked to this series of Informer videos. There's so much information in every single one of these that it always makes for an interesting watch. Also shows the realities of said occupations.
The traumas that she went through are unimaginable. I hope she gets well.
These are not "unimaginable".
It sucks, but not to that extent.
It's not like she was trafficked into slavery or something (compare to some other of these stories).
alr@@grim_2000
I thought she was a male.😅
@@haziqzuhair2632YOU TOO? I THOUGHT THEY WERE A MALE WITH LONG HAIR AND THEN I SAW THE NAILS😅
@@grim_2000 Prostitution against one's will is sex slavery
The contrast between Western/European airlines and Asian/Pacific Airlines is insane. Here in Europe we left those out of proportion beauty demands in the last century. I feel awful for those in Asia who dream to be a flight attendant but can’t achieve that dream because their airline has unfair restrictions
Aaahhhhh ok!!! I'm Canadian and I know a few flight attendants and I was thinking REALLY?? Yes it's clearer now... ty!!
Pff. Beauty standards exist everywhere, regardless eastern or western European countries. Get over urself.
Sincerely, an experienced flight attendant.
@@thechip2727 you aren't going to be working this job much longer, friend.
the moment you don't meet their standards, you're gone.
@@thechip2727 I thought this too! Beauty standards mostly are due to the high fashion industry and the media - it started WAY BACK a long time ago when it was decided women should be rail thin, have big eyes, small features, big boobs and teeny tiny tummy's, arms, hips & legs, ohh but the legs should be long tho.... It doesn't matter where you work - I'm a teacher but I've been a highschool student, a university student, a server, worked in liquor store, a bartender - it don't matter - pushing perfectionism and beauty towards women has been a problem for a long long time.
What is unfair about this? Getting hired for your looks is not unfair. People get hired because of their gender, people get hired because of their intelligence, ...
Both of my parents have been flight attendants for 30+ years and I will say that the experience this person had is very different from the experience of people that are flight attendants for american commercial airlines. while there are some struggles with the job, a lot of the tragedy described would NOT fly in a (US) commercial airline. Such as weapons on the plane and being forced to fit a certain size(just to name a few)if u have any questions abt flight attending respond to this and i’ll answer to the best of my ability!
Hiiiiiii doll! I just applied to a very known and reputable company for a flight attendant, in super nervous but also excited. Are there any tips that you can give on what to expect and if it's "a popularity" contest?
@@alleyocheerio hi pretty! 🤗 Did you get the job?
And that is how u leave us stranded
Thanks for sharing this is not your experience.
The one shocking revelation that I heard in this video clip is the fact that highly poisonous eye drops are sometimes added to airline passengers' drinks by cabin crew to sedate the passengers secretly.
That is quite scary to contemplate, considering that the exact dosage of eye drops that could prove lethal may not be known by the cabin crew who use those eye drops as a sedative.
Regular eyedrops? Those can sedate people?
@Oz Man Agreed. I don't touch alcohol and have zero empathy for morons who drink to excess, but that said, I do NOT feel that drunks aboard passenger jets deserve to be poisoned with eye drops.
@@riverbankfisher It's fine to be drunk and reserved. It's NOT fine to be drunk and obnoxious
@@billblaski9523 Yes. According to Google, Visine can have a sedative effect when ingested due to restricting blood-flow.
The main concern is that too much (even more than a drop) has the potential to cause cardiac arrest and permanent brain damage.
it's a tough call though- a drunk person can be dangerous, cutting someone off can be dangerous. How else do 5 small women deal with a large drunk man? asking for real. and I know "don't let them get drunk! Taking care of them like a child is everyone elses responsibility"
Sad to hear that she went through some terrible experiences in her career but honestly I am sure there are dark sides to every type of jobs banking, government, companies. A friend of mine was let go from her previous job at a company. Although she was very efficient at her job, the new section manager was trying to push in her former colleagues from previous job. The HR head was also in good terms with her and all it took was just a few oral and written warnings over trivial matters which was practiced by almost every at the office. For example, she took a day's leave because her grandma passed away. She notified the office but failed to inform what she was working on at the moment. She got a written warning for that. The head manager was not interested in her pleas at all. There was no way to contest, no one to report to, no mechanism nothing. She got a nice severence package but she was so devestated that she lost the will to apply for a salary paying job. She is doing well with her own business now.
When one door closes, God provides a much better opportunity to open. I'm happy your friend is doing better. ❤
Govt jobs are totally diff from private jobs, high salary, no need to worry about staying slim or plastics surgeries needed, no sleeping with bosses, cuz govt pays the salary and not the boss, govt employee are their own boss
While that sucks, its on a completely diffetent level as what was pertrayed in the video. Systemic sexual abuse and physical abuse.
No you don’t have a chance here in China, only with beauty degree and family wealth you will get a chance
And the informer is Asian and the way she described it sounds identical to what happens here in China, it’s a society that’s the polar opposite of western countries
I actually think it’s really rude to not care about being caught having sex. It’s awkward for others and I find it pretty selfish when people don’t care that they make other uncomfortable
Yeah, but I kinda laughed at that part. Like really, that's the worst part about the job? That's really not much to complain about. Then I got to the part about beauty standards, sexual abuse, substance abuse, and yeah it's pretty fucked up
I stayed at a hostel recently where a couple came into the dorm at 5am and went into the bunk bed underneath me and started fooling around. I shouted at them and threatened the man and then they stopped. I wasn't allowing it at all. It's the height of disregard for others and it made me so angry.
It's still a bit inconsiderate not to stop.
If you get busted, the hostess will just have to make you stop and it will be super embarassing for her.
They should be put on the no fly list. Maybe that would deter people from having relations on a flight. It’s so disgusting to know the next passenger will be seated in that mess. The next time I fly I’ll bring a cheap throw to sit on, as well as wiping off everything I touch with a Clorox wipe.
It’s rude, selfish, and creepy af. Not everyone wants to see or hear people banging and there’s kids around.
They definitely don't get paid enough to put up with the crap that they encounter. I don't care what exotic destination you can go to for free, having to deal with sexual perversion, random violence, and sexual harassment is absolutely nuts.
Nope u don’t even get paid the entire hours your working. That exotic location only last 10-24 maybe 48 hours anyway. Id rather take a real vacay
@@anonymouslyknownravegirl2945 facts. You can't rush 'exotic' and actually enjoy it...
You mean, flight attendants should be paid enough to put up with the crap that they encounter. If this is what you meant shame on you😑
What was described here wouldn't surprise me in some countries. The appearance/beauty standards mentioned were typical here in the US many years ago, but sadly are very real elsewhere.
As some who frequently travels by air for work and pleasure in the U.S., I can personally attest that there is not some lofty beauty standard requirement for being a flight attendant in the U.S.
@@ronnie_5150 weren't they Your type?😡
@@ronnie_5150 That's because we've advanced to a modern age.
This isn't an issue of Airlines in Asia, it's an issue of sexism, misogyny, and male chauvinism intertwined into business in Asia. Just mentioning in case someone wants to address this issue, it needs to be addressed at the heart, or it's just treating a symptom.
It's the patriarchy's fault
No wonder the population is rapidly declining
misogyny yes. A stupid term
What you say? This happen in Europe and America. Never in Russia or China or Iran or North Korea. If you want best life, come live in China or North Korea. Not Spain or England.
Finally! I call this INSIGHT🎉
I work as a flt attendant for 20 years but my company never treat us like this. And captain n crews were like a family member and they were always looking after us. I feel sorry to hear this things happen to some other airlines 😢😢
I worked as a flight attendant for an Asian well known airline for 9 years. I was lucky enough not to experience some of the crazy situations she mentioned. Guess my crew life was a bit boring lol.
Pretty sure she was talking about SQ Singapore Airlines.
agree, it should be SQ which is very demanding for their flight attendants' appearances.
Also agree it is SQ. Hope this is brought up to the management. SQ is the national carrier and such a toxic work environment needs a clean up.
yeah I thought I heard a Singaporean accent!
The suicides and plastic surgery could also align with Korea as for some reason they seem more prone to such things. Though to me the accent didn't sound like it was Korean.
I knew it too, I thought it was Philipine airlines but she talked about a dress being provided and you're expected to use the same dress again, etc... also the accent.
Definitely a Malaysian based airline. The gun story rules out Singapore. The boiling noodles story is from an Air Asia flight from Thailand to China, flight was diverted & the troublemakers fined by a Thai court, they should have been imprisoned. The Chinese government later took away their passports, and rightly so.
She sounds very Malaysian to me
Definitely sounds like a Malaysian Malay accent.
You're right about the air asia flight from Thailand. This was a big news in Thailand.
I thought she was Pinoy
and the thai accent! lol
Those who don't want to sleep will never sleep with anyone, no matter what happens to their jobs. I know many women in this job just want to be with pilots for a night or two. They can do anything for money. Families no matter how poor will never allow such thing. So, both parties are involved. If it's exploitation, just leave the job.
So much ridiculous the fact that women are even asked to sleep when they should be judged on their performance and techniques is disgusting blah blah not helping the point
We salute these flight attendants. It's not all cupcakes and rainbows with this type of job. They're willing to do whatever it takes to maintain and possibly even reach expectations of customers who go on board the airplane. This is dark in more ways than one. So better keep in mind that while there's nothing wrong with following your own dreams, you always have to be aware of the fact that there will always be negativities that come along with it. Anyway, have a good day. God bless everyone.
If anyone is going into ANY career path thinking they're never gonna have a bad day or meet some crummy customers, coworkers, managers, etc..
Your just begging to live a disappointed life.
@@theroamingsavage8813 True. I'd love to see you in a small space for 14 hours dealing with idiots like theyhave every right to be idiots because they paid for a ticket.
Let me guess...you've been upset by a flight attendant? For what reason mate? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
I highly doubt you'll respond. Prove me wrong. 😊
@@theroamingsavage8813 I mean, I think being forced to literally prostitute yourself for some rich passenger or client seems a bit more serious than just having a "bad day".
Every job has bad side, if you dont deal with customers then you deal with boss, competitive colleague. We cant keep looking at the negativities to stop follow our dream
@@slowonNurburgring exactly every job has it positive and negative sides
In 1967 a flight attendant wrote a book called, “coffee tea or me.” It was an interesting book for that time. Things have changed a little bit in 2023, however a lot of things will never change.
A lot of that book is fiction. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee,_Tea_or_Me%3F
@@meowsaidthecat5338 ALOT of wikipedia is fiction? lol do not cite lmaaoo
I need one of these flight attendants 😂
@@DocOrtmeyer yep those FA are smashable
ny husband is a pilot and I know a lot of pilots. I also have many flight attendant friends and none of them have slept with each other. While I’m sure some pilots would love to sleep with the FA, they are too scared of being sued and losing their license. But never have the FA ever mentioned that the pilots made moves on them. But this is in the private sector and not commercial like this FA. I hope that she is able to heal from all these terrible events she’s endured.
Thank you for your courage to come out and expose these monsters.
I think this is more of a problem in Asia than other places. In Australia we have very diverse flight attendants and rules that protect them.
Rude customers only exist in Asia?
Creepy pilots only exist in Asia?
Standards for flight attendants’ weight so they fit through aisles only exist in Asia?
I won’t argue that laws protecting them may be better in Australia, but don’t kid yourself, the majority of this stuff is not specific to Asia at all.
@@Account-xm6vj no offense but, standards for weight kind of make sense, they need to be able to easily get back and forth down the plane to do their job most effectively. Not everything boils down to discrimination and bias. Some things have reason.
@@Account-xm6vj Also, there is much in this video which is completely unverified information, believing it at face value is silly. I’m sure flight attendants go through some rough stuff, but I’ve certainly never been on a flight on which I thought my attendant was a meth user or anything of the sort. Although I can see the earlier commenters point, this could be a problem mostly in Asia.
@@rrikimaru You are literally agreeing with me.
My 'questions' were sarcastic.
This question: Standards for flight attendants’ weight so they fit through aisles only exist in Asia?
was to prompt the original commenter to think about what they were saying. Are they saying that standards for flight attendants’ weight so they fit through aisles only exist in Asia? My whole point is that standards for flight attendant's weight DO NOT solely exist in Asia, because they need to be able to fit through aisles. That's NOT an ASIAN thing.
@@rrikimaru You would be surprised on what happens behind the scenes.
You wouldn't know what a person is doing behind, if meth or other drugs are being used by just looking at that person during a flight because as you said "believing something at face value is silly".
There are recounts of the victims, the persons who have experienced that. Some may believe and some may not.
There's also no way you can be sure that this is only happening in Asia.
Remember that none believed that churches were abusing kids and still many are reluctant to believe so. There was no way of verifying the information but only the accounts of the abused victims.
Sexual harassment at workplace have been one of the most difficult issues to prove in a court even if evidence is available, due to the very high power and several connections of the abusers.
But hey to each his own. Many do not believe on these type of things until the same thing happens to them or to someone in their family.
You should make a video of home care with elder people. Even in Belgium, it is horrendous how they treat our grandparents.
I worked 17 years as a flight attendant in an international commercial airline & less than 5% of these incidents are true to me. With countless friends in other airlines too it's safe to say these are isolated cases. I'm so sorry you had to go through what's usually experiences of several attendants & not one.
paid comment by airlines nice try noname , also gamesense uid? skeetless in 2023 lmao
Maybe it was a particularly bad airline. Would you have flown in areas where police would not arrest people engaged in these things if you landed? As being banned from the airline seems to be missing criminal charges.
@@user-bi3ex9bv7v This girl is obviously from a poor Asian country you genius..
It’s safe to say
I think this is SQ, judging by the stories and everything I know about them from people who fly for them. their work culture is very toxic. I used to fly in the gulf and I agree with you - I did not encounter such issues in all the years. we also got drug and alcohol tested frequently and if positive, people got fired on the spot. antipsychotics get you grounded immediately. unruly pax get arrested. sexual harassment is a big no no as well - when the perpetrator is a crew member or a pax, doesn't matter, it is taken seriously.
Flight crew hopped up on drugs...
Passengers banging in the back...
Open weapons smuggling... Sexual and physical abuse... Suicides...
Pressured plastic surgery...
And you wanna travel for free and see the world?? It ain't free. Every flight is a pound of flesh😢
Sure, because this kind of stuff happens on EVERY flight. And how was the person able to get firearms onto the flight in the first place? That's a better question.
Shite sounds like a cool movie.
@@ronnie_5150 Must be some sketchy third world country airline
What kind if sketchy bumflock operation is this?🤔😂✌️
This happens because people don't stand up for themselves and don't know their rights. It doesn't matter if I'm on the job, you assault me, I'll defend myself, period. If not, then we'll solve things outside of work. Legally, or with bare hands. Have it your way 🤷
I'm really glad that she shared this information about an airline stewardess because I really wanted to be one ever since I was a little girl and about 3 months or so ago I decided to apply with American airlines and got an interview with them but I didn't get the job and I was a little hurt and tore up about it I really thought the Lord was trying to stop me from flying but what I do realize is is that God's spared me from the hardship that I would have had to experience in this position as a flight attendant so God bless her for her experience I pray that she overcomes all of the traumas that she had to go through on that journey and made the spirit of God deliver and heal her from every past hurting pain she had to go through on that job bless her soul.
I flew with KLM a few months ago. I was happy to see flight attendants of different shapes and attractiveness levels working together equally.
Were you really..
@@ryanortiz7293 Yes, because let's be honest: you cannot expect everyone to look like a supermodel.
Thank you for being modern. I'm hoping implicit in your viewpoint is the realization that FAs are present primarily for safety reasons, which certainly doesn't require that they look like beauty bots.
I prefer the fit ones though. Nicer to look at. But yes, morally I agree.
I mean let’s be honest we all “prefer” fit People to look at during 8 hour flights, but itrr not fair on them.
"The way I perceive society is sometimes abnormal". Absolutely true.
Ephesians6:12 it's rulers of darkness(wicked people in power),spiritual wickedness in high place.When satan is the god of this world and this system..of course society will be abnormal I agree.
Yes..we need more Informer series
I dated a flight attendant for a little and pretty much everyday she would encounter a pilot or staff member trying to get into her pants. During her work, she just had a miserable life. It took all of the glamour away.
From the accent it’s either Malaysia or Indonesia
Same here.
Though Indonesia has a more melodic accent compared to Malaysian Malay accent, which is more blunt & flat.
Bingo. let's make!
maybe Air Asia or singapore airlines
Or Filipino
@@Oceansta possibly Filipino
I was a FA in the early 90’s for a JFK based small commercial airline that flew feeder for El Al and Club Med, this was before 911. I was so disgusted with how we were treated by the passengers that I only lasted three years and had to quit. It was NOT glamorous in any sense and to this day it’s still hard to talk about. We were treated horribly while locked inside that flying tube; had luggage thrown at us daily, meal trays were disgusting and asked if we were “clean” in order to serve them and clean meaning was I on my period. I always had a smell to my uniforms that I could never get out. I would never do that job again.
None of this happens in America - Flight attendants are routinely drug tested, there is no "Beauty Standard" aside from being professional and looking put together. Safety is always a priority and any threats or even disruptive behavior will land you in jail.
I agree with you my sister gets routine drug tests I don’t know wtf this woman is talking about
Don’t u have to be a certain height? So you are able to help passenger lift their luggage?
@@shreklopez662 - Yes and to arm, disarm, and open the doors if necessary
@@qendresafulthis video mostly applies to asian airliners. Majority of them require the woman FAs to fit into their beauty standard to appear more attractive and pleasant since they need to represent the face of the airline.
@@qendresaful I agree it’s all a Asia they have the most strict beauty standards even in the society they live in it’s crazy not even Middle East or Europe or USA
This eerily sounds like the stories my friend tells me and she's a former flight attendant for Philippine Airlines, especially the pilot story.
Bingo!
I was shocked when she said some crew used drugs
Her hair and accent didn't seem like a Chinese,Japanese, or Korean carrier. So I was thinking more Emirates or Qutar...even though that's not seen as Asian. But the smuggling of guns on to a plane. Now your comment sounds more point.
@@surasura6333 lmaooo the world is on drugs
A far-stretch idea, there a numerous Asian countries who have similar accents, this is just another weak ploy to deprecate the nation
I never knew this. I wish all them all the healing and strength to deal with this. And especially that girl on whom the noodles was thrown and the girl in the video. I wish you all much love and power. No one deserves this. NO ONE
That’s a Southeast Asian accent. Singaporean, Malaysian, maybe Indonesian. It doesn’t mean it’s one of those airlines but all Flagship carriers of said countries have very high, unrealistic image standards. Those carriers also don’t treat them fairly. Not that we’re miles ahead in the states, but still better with room for improvement.
ikr its always been weird to me that flight stewardesses have to look like super models. and yet they have to deal with cavemen-like behaviour of passengers and crew. if i was running airports, i’d force all airlines to have military personnel as flight attendants, that way everyone behaves during takeoff 😂
Singapore is very strict in terms of drugs so it's not Singapore
@@surasura6333 I lived there and I’ve seen drugs in the country. You just have to know where to look if you want it bad enough. I do appreciate their stance on it and know the use is limited to say the least, but they’re there. It does more likely narrow it down to other countries, so you are right to an extent.
@@bhawkpilot4714 I don't believe on you Singapore doesn't tolerate drugs even smuggling guns on the plane they don't tolerate such things they don't ban people who smuggled on the plane but infact they will make those people who did such things will surely land on jail
Remember, her experience is not in America. It’s very different. You can notice the difference at any international airport that host non American carriers. Just look at the FA’s. America FAs are more relaxed because of laws and protections. Sexual harassment is penalized IF you report it working for an American airline. Looks are NOT a requirement anymore so surgery at your own risk baby.
In these stories people just need to know, no job is more important than your own happiness and quality of life
People in my Family are flight attendants so I have more insight than some. I always treat them with as much respect as I possibly can
don't respect them, I never do ands its better trust me bro
@@anti-b.s.9177 thx bro
@@LeMerch so you‘re a special edition SOB😁👍
You mean 'than', not 'then' 🙏
This REALLY makes sense, especially when you always see the flight attendants all dolled up. Now I know why. Now I know I may have to look out for them. Thanks for this.
Being a flight attendant from Asia this is my first time hearing such thing. I have never experience such thing. Dealing with senior crew and unruly passenger is the most difficult part of my job so far but no body no what's going to happen in the future.
Not this. There's no reason to think that standards in the UK would decrease. Don't worry yourself for no reason. It's daft.
I am from Singapore and I hear a Singaporean accent. Most likely from Singapore SIA. 1 male SIA air steward bragged that he had fucked every girl from different race.
Never date a fight attendant never faithful
May God bless you with mental peace
I appreciate these stories. It’s refreshing to hear the truth.
Thank you for sharing this! It is a dark world behind the scene for this industry. Lots of crazy stories and even human trafficing. The couple that threw hot water and threating to blow up the plane should get charge and ban in all airline. She burned the flight attendant's face wth! The captain story heard this alot but the fact that he went knocking on her room and made her trip hell after she rejected him is ridiculous.
Had a dear girlfriend of mine
who was a flight attendant for an American carrier. She mentioned having to maintain her weight, keeping up her appearance, etc. My friend is a dead ringer for Mary J. Blige, only she had short hair & was very tall. Very pretty woman.😉She told me years ago the pilots were the most egotistical/aggressive persons to deal with. They would always proposition her, even though she was happily married. Opened my eyes right then!
False lol the US literally doesn’t have any physical standards for flight attendants. Equal employment opportunity
@@carinaysabel3900 Except that if one is not at least average looking, they will be declined for "other issues". You will not see FAs with facial tattoos, disfigurement, severe balding (women) or noticeable acne. Open you eyes, lol.
Dude , why would a fucking flight attendant for a US airline carrier ever date a person not from the aviation industry ??
I am sorry to break this to you , but flight atrendents have a raunchy and exciting sex life : they are more than contended in being escorts for wealthy patrons , and having boyfriends from multiple countries and probably was going behind your back !!!
Dude , take it from me , flight atrendents is the job where pretentiousness wins and honesty can hurt your chances in the industry 😂😂😂
This is one of my favorite series. Super educational. VICE please keep making the Informer videos!
Why would you so readily believe the words of an anonymous character who has absolutely no incentive to tell the truth and is actually encouraged to tell fantastic tales?
I was a flight attendant for 23 yrs in the US.
She’s only been flying for 6 years and all this has happened??
Nothing like this goes on in the States.
Exactly! US carriers vs the rest of the world seem to be night and day!
It's private
I haven't been on an international flight (save Canada) in at least 20 years due to health limitations but at least here in US?Canada I am thrilled to see middle aged, less than supermodel perfect in appearance and confident flight attendants now! I feel as though their experience will aid in keeping people calm and getting us to the best exits, slide, float on a wing, etc. or prepared for an emergency landing. Only jerks are flying to exploit the attendants, projecting their neuroses and inflated egos on the vulnerable and underpaid. These poor people! This makes me so angry. Kudos to the whistleblower! Brave woman, through and through.
Cause we don't pay $ for models to work this line of work, so they have to lower the beauty standards
mind you, just bc a flight attendant isn’t attractive, it’s not a given that she knows her safety procedures better 🙃 but if it gives you more peace of mind, whatever.
a former flight attendant
@@findelka1810 I did a poor job of expressing myself and you caught me! I was trying to say that I am glad to see that (hopefully) these middle aged, professional acting attendants make me feel more confident than someone on some lame charm and cuteness offensive to "ease" any anxiety or state of need for a specific situation I bring with me. All too often the physical attractive in our cultures can progress beyond any inate talent or intelligence they may have. Give me competence and confidence first--no matter what pckage they come in. However, I do think a flight attendant needs to be healthy and not encumbered by too much ballast. Middle aged spread is not what I'm talking about; but Lizzo shouldn't be hired because even in a jumbo jet, the aisles are narrow and at altitude an attendant needs to be on point for a stint of CPR or assisting someone having a grande meal seizure, etc.
There is no way that the entire airline industry is like this. I have two cousins that were flight attendants, and I've never heard of anything like this going on. And I definitely would have.
You are in the West.
She legit said she was stationed in Asia.. Of course the entire airline industry is not this way.
@@huetran4361 nonsense. 35years experience at one of hte BIGGEST carriers in SE asia, it;s not like this. Beaty standards yes but únattractive people are weeded out during the selction process. They dont make you go through plastic surgery
can confirm - it is not like that flying for middle eastern carriers either. while there are beauty standards, it is more important how you interact with passengers and perform safety-wise. drugs and sexual harassment and completely unacceptable and will get the perpetrator fired immediately. even eye drops - wtf?!
correct. labor laws would prevent this. it's about some places in Asia.
I only lasted 3 months as a flight attendant for a private charter. To say it was traumatizing is an understatement
Lol my mom was and they always made her wear tight skirts 💀💀 plenty of weird stories about her
I work at an airport. Flight attendents & pilots constantly flirt with each other. Both are also very skilled at starting and carrying conversations about anything. Hard to take them seriously.
The conversation part is so funny. I always tell people I swear this job turned me into an extrovert and I never used to be one. The skill of talking about any and everything, but also nothing at the same time is something you definitely acquire here. I'm sorry you can't take us seriously. I can't take us seriously either 🤣🤣🤣. But I don't flirt with our pilots. They're all like 50 years old so. Lol
@@chenanigans Well bless you, lol. Spoken like a real one.
@@chenanigans how did u become one please? I’m an aspiring FA
Shameful people. Tanks for sharing and step up telling the truth, proud of you young lady.
This was an interesting watch! I'd love to see something like this for someone who works in hotels or a head chef! I'm a server and a bartender at a hotel restaurant and the entitlement and mistreatment from guests is insane
I wanted to be a flight attendant since I was 5. I'm greatful that GOD never allowed that to come through.
I studied and was on my way to becoming a flight attendant but things always kept going wrong and my spirit kept sayin NO.
I am so blessed
This is insane and very shameful. I’m sure the western world doesn’t see half of what this person has gone through but I can imagine it can still get pretty bad for flight attendants here in the states smh
Just work in a nightclub for a month, most of this is just normal customer service crap anywhere.
@@algardaus lol can’t compare a night club to airline service. Obviously it’s a man world, but it is brazy that it’s at this level and I had no idea
@@nyrubin Why, because you said? Compelling evidence.
i remember taking korean air frequently as a kid and all the flight attendants are really pretty. now it seems to be super creepy. chinese airlines would have rude old ladies which now seemed pretty cool but having pretty ladies in service is still very big part of chinese airlines.
This series brings truth and reality in front of us.
being an actual Flight Attendant.. working for the biggest lowcost airline. i can feel those stories.. we had alot of times issues.. sometimes crying in the galley because the aviation industry is really hard. And huge. It’s like you have to compare Aviation with modelling world. Like, this makes me really sad, why are we doing this to our selves? Even you love to be a flight attendant
But why are all the flight attendants I have seen are ugly looking. I don't think this part is true.
@@queencupcake09 well, look example to Emirates, Qatar Air asia. And many huges airlines same to Singapore airlines you have to fit in to the beauty standards
@@queencupcake09 thats mostly US and some euro airlines
my university classmate is a flight attendant... not surprised by the stories she has told. FA's also have the power too... like when they're in a specific city and there's big time artists (males), they get access to it because its mutual and you know how it goes and they sure are groupies in that sense. So not saying they're always the victims here. Moral of the story is... don't date any famous or super rich. they're part of the community and world and "it" gets shared.
I absolutely believe this. I remember seeing the way people in the plane would just STARE at flight attendants. They are just such a strange type of career idk how to explain it.
Hi VICE, please do a similar video on Graduate Research Assistants in US Universities.
I second this
@@donlalo2002 Damn! I really missed out then.
What about them?
Or those in European ones
@@codedxxx exploitation
1,100 comments in 3 days! Obviously a topic of interest to anyone who's ever been near an airplane. Thanks Vice! More please.
My daughter's mom has been a flight attendant for four years. Never heard any ish like this. It's a job and not for everyone. Like working in an office is not for me.
my mom was a flight attendant, and she mentioned a story that stuck w me. Herself and her colleague were on a flight, and one of the passengers (a married man) looked at the flight attendant. His wife got jealous and splashed hot tea all over her.
fkd up
I liked this story and I believe every word said, and probably the thousands if not more unsaid. Passangers and crew alike can be disgusting, immoral and the industry a total facade. Thank you for sharing and I am glad you left the industry. You deserve much, much better
What an amazing series and god bless this woman's heart (and every person that works in this industry)
I warned my cousin sister about this job. I already knew any industry 'required' you to be beutiful is basically whoring yourself to survive. Now she left her job after 4 years before covid , occasionally overcleaning herself till she hurt herself in shower, over grooming her hair till she pull atleast handfull of her hair. Basically hurt herself so much that we started noticing her bruises. During covid lockdown times it was almost impossible to get a pshyciatrist. I didnt got the hint at first why she was doing to herself. But my mum understood early. It was a hell of a year for us not because of pandemic but because the time we have to spend to give her love and assurance and keeping a strict eye over her activity. My mum removed every possible locks and latches from our doors including bathroom fearing for her taking any stupid step to hurtself again. Now she is okay after we got the professional help. Also went back to her home and came back more renewed and brave. She is now doing some online courses and probably gonna apply for hospitality degree in Australia. She never told me what happened to her but i am glad that my Didi is back.
Are you Bengali?
I am a flight attendant for over 35 years, i fly for a major US airline. This person is referring to what is called Flag carriers. That means airlines like Air France, Qatar, British Airways, Air Canada, China Air etc. Airlines that are owned and operated by the countries they fly for. They are far stricter than US airlines that are privately owned and Federally supervised.
I first started at TWA and back in the day when i began when we were called "Stewardesses" there were indeed many of these beauty standards and weight restrictions that this flight attendant mentioned. But these restrictions were let go of as the airlines were facing too many civil rights lawsuits concerning these harsh and limiting beauty regulations. Up to an including past weight, age and marital status restrictions.
I worked for TWA from 1979-1986! I loved that job. During my short time I traveled the world on my own (the world was a much kinder place) lol. I had good friends. I am retired now but I still remember those fond days. So nice to read your comment.
That is some heavy externalising of one's own decisions.
Nobody is forcing you to work in that industry, to take drugs to comply with the beauty standards, etc.
It was really unfortunate what happened to her. Hope she can cope or better yet, recover from depression soon. However, I worked as a flight attendant for 7.5 years with a well-known middle-eastern airline and I have never heard of what she mentioned in the earlier part of the video, or maybe those were individual cases. But first, the plastic surgery part is true. Although I didn't personally do it, I've heard about fellow crew who did. But nowadays, people are going under the knife in the name of beauty no matter what profession they are in. Illegal drug-use in my former company was quite impossible as random checks are conducted frequently. If violation is found, the crew member will be fired on the spot. Regarding prostitution to powerful figures, I've never heard of it in my 7.5 years of flying and trust me, news travels fast in this industry. I believe there are people who are willing to sell themselves in exchange for wealth and power, but that was out of their own accord. If she or people she knows were forced into this, then I really hope they will just quit the job because it is really not worth it. I have heard rumours about putting eye drops into drinks but that was to give someone diarrhoea, instead of putting them to sleep. Never tested it out so I'll never know😂 And I guess I was just unlucky to have never stumbled upon passengers having sex onboard, would love to encounter that🤣 Only had a couple in 1st class cabin, whereby the man complained about the open-top design of the suites that wouldn't allow them to do the deed in privacy. So we put them on the observation list to make sure they don't do that during the flight, to the extent of not allowing them to schedule the use of the two onboard showers at the same time to prevent just that. Yes, there were a lot of disruptive and unruly pax whom we usually handle with a warning. If that doesn't stop them and they pose a danger to themselves, others and/or the aircraft, we will proceed to restrain and call airport security to meet the aircraft and take them away. It was true what she said about some flight deck crew members power-tripping though. Grooming was indeed annoying so I am thankful that I only had minor problems with that. No one should go through what she had to go through so I really hope that if anyone finds themselves in her situation, just leave. Before it's too late.
I thought it was kind of silly for her to say that heroin, meth ect is used to keep weight down. I mean, they'll just be strung out and look in bits, lose their job. As you said, regular drug tests.
Like who uses heroin for weight loss. Youd be financially and physically better off getting surgery ffs
@@karlagordon4555 Exactly. I thought that was really weird too. In fact, everything she said in the earlier part of the video sounded like an entirely different job to me😂
I also flew in the Middle East and can confirm everything you said. the drug use part was really like wtf?! we had some crew that got into it and they quickly got fired because we all got tested for drugs. I never did any plastic surgery but I do have friends who have - some are flight attendants and some are not, so it is really not specific to cabin crew lol. the way she talked about the uniform, her accent and how pax get away with everything makes me think she's talking about SQ.
as a current flight attendant let’s also keep in mind how different the industry is in the USA and around the world the USA has laxxed a lot of these standards and depending on the airline you work for the safety of our crews is important so most of us here don’t experience what has been said above but at the same time
everything this person said like every single thing
is so incredibly true and reality for many flight attendants around the world including the US and it’s sad
very sad
and discerning
As a current airplane I can attest to everything the woman in the video said. And the real hookups and drugs go on in the private crew rest area above the passengers. It is terrible to have all that going on in my belly while I am just trying fly you humans around the world.
@@DrCarlBooze you thought you were funny?
@@solee4091 better to be not funny than not nice
@@DrCarlBooze lmaoo but you basically mocked me and her 😂
Thanks, @VICE, for having the courage to expose these issues. What's Done In The Dark Will Be Brought To The Light!
I think it should be clarified this is the experience of crew from specific airlines in specific regions. For many crew in western companies, this is nothing like the experience. You can be drug tested or breathalysed at random times so very few dabble in drugs and alcohol like that. And surgery is purely a personal choice 😂
For having a little travelling experience, I totally agree with you it shouldn't be generalised as a whole industry situation, as it seems to be portrayed.
@@Cloudyvi I totally agree with you. It should not even be generalised as a situation for the industry in Asia. For sure, it does not happen in Singapore. There are drug tests. Moreover, God forbid if you are caught. We have capital punishment for drug offenses here. Based on the accent of the interviewee, I am definitely sure the individual is not from East Asia (ie China, Korea, Japan, Taiwan). The accent also doesn't sound like the person is from Malaysia, Singapore, Vietnam or Thailand.
I think for major, reputable national airlines too, the random tests means the crew cannot afford to risk drinking alcohol or taking drugs at any given time
@@colinchuasounds Filipino right?
@@Overlordvoldermort my guess would be Malaysian cos there was a case Chinese national hurled hot cup noodle to Airasia's crew.
And then you see Ric Flair board the plane.