Indigenous Tribes Push Back Against Evangelical Missionaries
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2022
- For decades, evangelical missionaries have come to Brazil's Amazon in search of new Christians - but indigenous tribes are fighting back. VICE News went to the border of the Javari Valley to find out why it's so hard to keep missionaries out - and why some tribes want them back in.
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By the way, uncontacted peoples are also called "indigenous peoples in voluntary isolation". I want to mention this because "uncontacted" implies that these tribes are not aware of the outside world. They are not stupid, they just want to be left alone (which should be respected).
Good for them!!! Only bad things happen to indigenous peoples who make contact with the outside world, unfortunately :/// Hoping and praying they can all live in peace and have their homes and the environment preserved 😔
wow injecting some political correctness huh
@@Dante-pb4dy ah yes the false equivocation between real cultural genocide and mostly legal immigration.
@@unguidedone i mean... with the type of video your watching do you think its going to appeal to conservatives.
I've read that most of these tribes have had contact with others in their oral history! That is why they went further and further into the rainforest to get away from the outside world.. What has been done to indigenous peoples in the name of god is beyond evil...
An Inuit hunter asked the local missionary priest: 'If I did not know about God and sin, would I go to hell?' 'No,' said the priest, 'not if you did not know.' 'Then why,' asked the Inuit earnestly, 'did you tell me?'
He lied.
well, a catholic priest would probably tell him that if he didn't tell him, his soul would be destined for the shadowy realm of limbo, and have no chance of attaining heaven and the glory of god. official doctrine is you gotta know and love jesus to go to heaven, and that is the place you are supposed to want to go, not limbo.
Because it's not about what you lose, it's about what you gain.
@@derdeolifant who lied? So your God will send you to hell just because? Sounds like a devil to me.
@@JP2GiannaT you gain going to hell for believing in what you think is right? Gee whiz sign me up.
This is Disgusting!!! Leave them ALONE!!! THIS IS COLONIALISM...
so, you're okay with them eventually being erased due to inbreeding??? Lack of contact with the outside leads to problems of inbreeding and illness...
While today you're consumed with hate and refuse to accept how loved you really are, and they are as well. He too was condemned by those in power, and yet he fought for you and died for you. Why? Because he loves you so much, no matter how you reject him... You will reach a day of vulnerability, and you have the free will to accept the truth of life, or go back to the ways of the world.
@@dimensionninja4929 youre dumb
God gave us the choice. Free Will.
@@dimensionninja4929
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As someone who's country's tribes were also converted to Christianity, and has lost half of our cultures and beliefs, this is sickening. They don't care about the wellbeing of the people, so long as their goals are accomplished, so long as their ego are stroke, they're content and just leave them behind.
So long they have more cash and political power for their "Dominionism"....
Good. Those those so called "cultures" and "beliefs" are worldly deceptions that will land you in a place seperated from your creator when you die. Christ is the only way. Repent and give your life to him before it is too late.
@@Raydensheraj absolutely right
actually I'm from the Han tribe in China, I'm very grateful I was born a Christian and proud that so many Chinese people are now atheists and Christians, I'm fed up with idols, bullshit and deception
@@Sanchez19vinxnobody cares
When I went on a mission trip in 1996 to Matamoros Mexico with my youth group we did a similar thing to this. That trip was the beginning of me losing faith in church. 3 or 4 years after that trip I was out of church completely. It felt really wrong what we were doing down there. They were living so poorly and instead of helping them in ways that were helpful we were just trying to change their beliefs. I also realized on that trip you can’t justify changing religion for morality because those people were already kinder and sweeter than American Christians.
Spot on
Mormon?
@@eustab.anas-mann9510 christian missionaries are valtures glad people are waking up to this danger
Wtf do Americans have to do with indigenous people being colonized by Spain???? I swear you guys always hate Americans even if it has nothing to do with them….The South is literally known for its hospitality…Im a Mexican with brown skin and I’ll tell you they are some of the kindest people you’ll meet….You watch to much Liberal propaganda that teaches you that Christian Americans are evil maga supporters.
1 billion percent
I grew up in a Baptist/Evangelical church and met many missionaries before they went on their missions to Africa or South America. Without fail missionaries are the most unsettling people to be around. The himbo missionary that they talked to was a perfect representative. He was disrespectful, picking his nails, rolling his eyes because he knew he was talking to someone he couldn't manipulate and lie to.
“When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them, we had the Bible, and they had the land.” -Archbishop Desmond Tutu
You just sound like you are angry at white people
Powerful point.
Lol😂😂😂😂 that was a beautiful quote
I mean many Africans are Christian, so they already had a Bible
Eritreans and Ethiopians rn: 👁️👄👁️
I was an evangelical Christian for three years and it is absolutely a soul stealing cult. Any push back against this abusive system is a good thing.
No, you never were a Christian.
"Eternity"😇🙏🙌🙈🙉🙊
Peoples Hearts are waxing Colder by the day
it's for these reasons I write these rhymes and In His Holy Name I pray
to speak Life in every sentence, and Hope in every bar
to give back to what's been Stolen, and send Healing to every Scar
cuz Life is Unpredictable, the Confusion of this World is Deep
Knowledge is Exploding at a rate never seen before, and Mankind is about to Reap
for every sin we've committed, and every seed that's been sowed with hate
the future isn't what you should be questioning, rather it should be your souls fate
cuz were at the point of no return, what's in motion cant be stopped
prophecies being fulfilled, and Eternity in heaven cant be topped!
so check your heart, humble yourself, and receive the free gift of grace
Jesus died for us all, he died in our place!
"Eyez Wide Open"
the worlds gettin colder as my eyes are being enlightened,
the more I look around the more demons I be fightin,
they hate whats in me, its called Unconditional Love, theres only one place that comes from, and thats from strait up above,
so I'm strivin forward doin what I do best, and thats putin fire out with water comin strait from my chest,
these bars are like my bullets and the Lord is my vest, protecting me from all the evil thats how I know that I'm blessed
now I'm pushin and I'm strivin for the end of the race, seekin his face, at the same time covered in grace,
cuz i'm redeemed by the blood of Jesus cuz he came here to be, the one and only Son of God our Savior you see,
now I'm humbled that I see cuz I use to be blind, walking down a road to destruction, the devil thought he had my soul,
but you gotta understand, I was chosen for this walk it was all part of Gods plan,
to be a vocal warrior for the lost and confuzed, dazed and amused, thinkin I'm tryin to fake the good news,
I'm bringin a light to this reality and salt to this equation, this isnt a matter of thought and this isnt persuasion,
this is spoken truth strait here to see, each and every one of you get saved and you'll be,
not only born again but you'll be forgivin of all things, revealed the truth, revealed the life and be broken of all chains.
But just remember the devils out here tryin to snatch you up quick, walkin around roarin like a lion he's sick,
so when the temptations come around and your heart starts tuggin, thats Jesus saying come this way the devils just buggin,
thats when you suite up with the full armor of God, shine your light and get to teachin with the whole squad,
cuz that's why we're here fam is to spread the good news, that there is life after death Jesus paid all the dues!
"I Was Saved"
Times go by but Memories Never Fade, I was Sitting in a Cell Where Memories are Never Made
Wishing on the Time and Wishing they still were, But it seems so Hard when my Mind was just a Blur
Doing what I want, Whenever, Whenever I Pleased, Only got me Stuck in this Cell, Down on Bended Knees
Begging for Forgiveness from the God Above, But he Told me He'd Never Leave Me Nor Forsake Me in the Name of Love
And Thats when I knew that Gods here to Save and not Here to Kill, And If You Follow His Word then You'll be Doing His Will
Cuz I Just Recently Came and I'm here to State, That the Bible Is the Answer to this Present Date
Please Lord be with Me as I Write this Song, Cuz If it Weren't for You, I'd be Doing All Wrong
For the Life I Lived was Full of Evil and Hate, But Because Your Mercy and Grace, It was Never too Late
"I Was Saved, I Was Saved, Thank You Lord, I Obeyed, I Was Saved, I Was Saved, Thank You Lord, I Obeyed"
Thank God for the Day, Thank God for the Night, Thank God for Telling Me to do Whats Right
Cuz If it Weren't for You, I'd Still be on the Street, Suffering Through the Trials, And Barely Trying to Eat
Thank You God for Each and Every Day, and the Gift you Gave Me to Humbly Pray
Before I Met You, My Life Was Full of Strife, But I can Honestly Say That You Have Changed My Life!
"2Blessed2beStressed"
I'm 2 Blessed to be Stressed so put me to the Test cuz I'm as tough as the rest and I dont even Flex my Chest
It's just the way of my life, ever since I found the Lord I been going through Trials and Strife
But I'm still looking to the sky knowing what's above, knowing everytime I pray Peace and Love descends like a Dove
Which keeps me ready for the fight and keeps my eyes strait and narrow , so everytime the devil tries to tempt me he gets shot down by my arrow
If your catching my drift and your feeling what I'm writing, then let's all join together and bring some Wrath to this Titan,
For satan is his name and Hate is the game, In which we need to Conquer and bring Shame to his Fame
For he's the Trickster of this world here to Destroy everything in his path, here to kill the Love and clean up the Aftermath
So if your feeling down and out or inside feel so Hollow, Christ will be right there, Knocking, Saying "Follow"
"Spare the Rod"
Life is so Strange but I'm right on Que, I'm Keeping it so True in Plain View I Thought You Knew
That I Stand for the Good, I may be from the Hood but Don't Hate cuz you Wish You Could Touch what I Got
Which is not a Lot, That Will not Rot, That Will Stand Tall and not Fall on any Call but Mine
It's a Heavenly Sign and Ima Stand in Line Til the Day I Die It's Fine
So I Take this Pen to this Paper, with Victory in Sight, Most People Live in Darkness, Well I Walk in Light,
Let me Teach you a Little Bit about my Faith and how I Roll, When I Accepted Christ I was Given Grace to my Soul
We're not Perfect, We're just Forgiven, and thats a Word from the Wise, If you would just Open your Eyes, You will Escape your own Demise
We're Thankful Lord, that when we Fall we can Begin Anew, If we Humbly Confess our Sins then Turn and Follow You
Courage is a Fear that has Said It's Prayers, Without Saying your Prayers, It's Nothing but Nightmares
Gods Law shows us a Need that only Gods Grace can Supply, So I look up to the Heavens, In which its Strength I Rely
God Gives us the Gift of Time to use as Best we can, To Live each Moment in his Will and According to his Plan
The Point is Life is Short, So Live Life for God, Because if your Dont, He Certainly Wont Spare the Rod!💯
@@LoveThyNeighbor1989 annoying as always, you just made their point.
@@pagodebregaeforro2803 "Eyez Wide Open"
the worlds gettin colder as my eyes are being enlightened,
the more I look around the more demons I be fightin,
they hate whats in me, its called Unconditional Love, theres only one place that comes from, and thats from strait up above,
so I'm strivin forward doin what I do best, and thats putin fire out with water comin strait from my chest,
these bars are like my bullets and the Lord is my vest, protecting me from all the evil thats how I know that I'm blessed
now I'm pushin and I'm strivin for the end of the race, seekin his face, at the same time covered in grace,
cuz i'm redeemed by the blood of Jesus cuz he came here to be, the one and only Son of God our Savior you see,
now I'm humbled that I see cuz I use to be blind, walking down a road to destruction, the devil thought he had my soul,
but you gotta understand, I was chosen for this walk it was all part of Gods plan,
to be a vocal warrior for the lost and confuzed, dazed and amused, thinkin I'm tryin to fake the good news,
I'm bringin a light to this reality and salt to this equation, this isnt a matter of thought and this isnt persuasion,
this is spoken truth strait here to see, each and every one of you get saved and you'll be,
not only born again but you'll be forgivin of all things, revealed the truth, revealed the life and be broken of all chains.
But just remember the devils out here tryin to snatch you up quick, walkin around roarin like a lion he's sick,
so when the temptations come around and your heart starts tuggin, thats Jesus saying come this way the devils just buggin,
thats when you suite up with the full armor of God, shine your light and get to teachin with the whole squad,
cuz that's why we're here fam is to spread the good news, that there is life after death Jesus paid all the dues!
"Eyez Wide Open"
the worlds gettin colder as my eyes are being enlightened,
the more I look around the more demons I be fightin,
they hate whats in me, its called Unconditional Love, theres only one place that comes from, and thats from strait up above,
so I'm strivin forward doin what I do best, and thats putin fire out with water comin strait from my chest,
these bars are like my bullets and the Lord is my vest, protecting me from all the evil thats how I know that I'm blessed
now I'm pushin and I'm strivin for the end of the race, seekin his face, at the same time covered in grace,
cuz i'm redeemed by the blood of Jesus cuz he came here to be, the one and only Son of God our Savior you see,
now I'm humbled that I see cuz I use to be blind, walking down a road to destruction, the devil thought he had my soul,
but you gotta understand, I was chosen for this walk it was all part of Gods plan,
to be a vocal warrior for the lost and confuzed, dazed and amused, thinkin I'm tryin to fake the good news,
I'm bringin a light to this reality and salt to this equation, this isnt a matter of thought and this isnt persuasion,
this is spoken truth strait here to see, each and every one of you get saved and you'll be,
not only born again but you'll be forgivin of all things, revealed the truth, revealed the life and be broken of all chains.
But just remember the devils out here tryin to snatch you up quick, walkin around roarin like a lion he's sick,
so when the temptations come around and your heart starts tuggin, thats Jesus saying come this way the devils just buggin,
thats when you suite up with the full armor of God, shine your light and get to teachin with the whole squad,
cuz that's why we're here fam is to spread the good news, that there is life after death Jesus paid all the dues!
I used to be a christian (evangelist). My goal in life was to go to a poorer country and become a missionary. Looking back, it sickens me that that was my dream.
I would rather go there and be a helping hand, but people feel like the best thing to do is spread the word, but I feel like they are basically treating the people as a mere means as in they are only there to benefit themselves by getting them in their family.
It depends which church you come from, some evangelical churches DO help, and are a great place to be in, others, not so much
@@jajarev No church's help is free.
A Christian died trying to do that to an African tribe in Asia
@@justins5756 Christians are the helping hand. Whens the last time you saw an atheist soup kitchen in the hood?
This is sickening, the evangelicals think they have something to teach the indigenous people, but it's completely the other way around.
Sadly Evangelicalism is a mental paradigm with a closed logic. "Us is Good. Other is evil, until we help them see things our way. " Brrr. They're deaf to any other reality. Hence in the US they're also a great 'machine' against scientific insights that may stop corporate interests.
Exactly! Those missionaries should all have a cup of ayahuasca brew.
Absolutely here in the US we have already lost so much. Now they insist on eradication of SA indigenous culture also?
Yeah, it seems like people should have learned from the mistakes. It’s like breaking something that we know is going to need to be fixed later. It’s still going on up here though.
I think Jesus _still_ has something to teach evangelicals. There's nothing complicated about "love thy neighbor" unless you're craving something else completely in your heart.
Evangelicals don't understand how inappropriate, insulting and sensitive the topic of conversion is for many of us. I would quite literally rather die than convert. Props to these people for resisting.
It's not that they don't understand, it's that they don't care. They are trying to force it onto people, and that's not even what Jesus did. They are interested in power, not actually helping people. And they take money from the very people they should be helping.
You're misinformed. Christians don't convert you, nobody converts you. Christians just present the Gospel. You make the decision yourself to accept it or not. You are not forced to believe.
@@electric336 The Gospel 99% of you have never read, don't follow and don't study.
Coming to our homes, our countries and manipulating impoverished people is immoral. Period.
@@EzraB123 Most Christians that do missions have read the gospel. I doubt you know very many Christians. Like I said, Christians just present the gospel. If that's manipulation, then giving anyone information is manipulation according to you.
@@electric336 ideally you're correct. But like so many Christians, you're trying to paint a squeaky clean, 100% altruistic picture of missionaries that is very rarely accurate. I know, I've been on many missions and I can't remember a single one where, at some point, there wasn't a catch, some sort of emotional or social blackmail. I found it horrifying. Most mission trips are all about reporting back about numbers of conversions. That's what keeps the money flowing. There's a very few missionaries who are genuine and they all live in the field. Mostly it's a scam to have privileged westerners feel good about their 'contribution' to poor people.
As an indigenous Brazilian who was removed from her culture and people, I cry for my people who still suffer today at the hands of these people, being forced to accept what is imposed and abandon our rich culture.
How were you removed from your culture and people, if I may ask?
@@CAHiredGun When I was a child, they took me away from my parents and my village because of some rituals we had, they still used the excuse that they were protecting us, after that I was raised in a Christian schooland today I live with a family that loves me very much.But I still miss my real family To this day I don't know what happened to my parents and I never heard from them again.
@@suga-san4383 Wow, I'm sorry to hear that you were bereft of your family like that.
Do you know what kind of rituals they meant? And, it was missionaries that did this or the government? I haven't heard of that happening in Brazil before.
You're an indigenous Brazilian? Wow this is my first time meeting one. I'm really interested in learning more about indigenous culture but sadly because almost every culture has already been wiped out, it's hard. I hope you have a good life after what they did to you. Remember to never forget your culture and roots. Sending love to every indigenous American ❤
JUST ATTENDED A Evangelical Christian Wedding. The couple getting married were barely 21 and only met 18 months ago. These people are a little scary. I was told they try to marry the kids off early before they get a chance to meet someone that might not be Christian. Which they consider very very bad.
Lots of people of all backgrounds get married young? And I think most people would want to marry someone who shared their beliefs/cultural identity. I'm not quite sure how that's scary. Maybe it's more just not something you would choose?
Muhammad married a 6 yr old. Marrying off children is still a thing in islam today.. Now thats scary.
It would be very bad! No one wants to see their kids in hell, and no one wants their kid to be yoked with an unbeliever! It just causes so many problems!
@@joeking433 No one who? At least the amish are true to their sayings.
@@heitorpedrodegodoi5646 The Amish have their problems just like any other Christians. They have a really bad alcoholism problem, for one! Keeping yourself from materialism and progress as the Amish do is commendable. But to make that your whole reason for acceptance from God is not that smart. Now the Amish are getting rich. I bought some windows for my home from and Amish company. And looked at some of their patio furniture, and it's not cheap! We have an Amish grocery store a few miles from us here in Ohio and it's our favorite store.
Imagine being indigenous people, chilling and minding your own business and all of a sudden some dude you don't know came and said "ding dong your believe system is wrong." And he won't leave you.
At that point, violence is the answer.
"Minding your own busines?"
God's will be done, not your own unfortunately, although many believe this life is their own and continues to destroy themselves with alcohol, drugs, child sacrifices, cannibalism, and animalistic sacrifices etc..
This is minding their own business. You okay with that?
@@organicmamajones2743 That's nice, dear.
I'm a Native American and a Christian so my feelings on the issue are complex.
@@organicmamajones2743 I'm not. But I'm not one of them nor I live in the country, so that's none of my business. Also human sacrifice is rarely a case in modern days even among indigenous tribes. Even if that happens it's the local government and law enforcement's concerns
1st comes the Evangelists, then comes the Logging Companies, Strip Miners, and Oil Exploration drilling, Land appropriation, Tribal Relocation, famine and disease 😒!!!!
This ain't nothing new.
Islam does the same but ok lol how did you think North Africans became Muslim?
Sat it again for the people in the back !!! 💯
@Silver Surfer. Exactly so.
Colonization 2.0 but instead of the Portuguese it's now the Americans
I grew up evangelical and I questioned much of it every step of the way. You can’t force yourself on other people if you truly believe in free will.
How are they forcing others what to believe? Is it even possible???
@@joeking433 because you can’t condemn another for not accepting your beliefs. That’s why the world is messed up as it is. Saying a person is going to hell for not believing in what you do as person is in fact showing and passing judgment on others.
@@joeking433 no one is saying Jesus isn’t the only way to salvation. But, some cultures actually believe in the Creator or savor type architect. Never actually said you were but, actually says in the Bible you are not allowed to judge even if cause is righteous. 1 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged.
2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?
4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye?
5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your eye.
When ancient people and cultures clash with beliefs it tends to break the cycle of acceptance.
Most Christians theological beliefs Jesus is the example we should live by. Christ was perfect but, he never condemned those who we’re against him. He tried to show them a better way.
Behold, the Lord God helps Me;
Who is he who condemns Me?
Behold, they will all wear out like a garment;
The moth will eat them.
Psalm 34:22
Verse Concepts
The Lord redeems the soul of His servants,
And none of those who take refuge in Him will be condemned.
Romans 8:1
Verse Concepts
Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.
Psalm 37:33
Verse Concepts
The Lord will not leave him in his hand
Or let him be condemned when he is judged.
2 Corinthians 7:3
Verse Concepts
I do not speak to condemn you, for I have said before that you are in our hearts to die together and to live together.
Source: bible.knowing
@@joeking433 there for calling someone else belief in higher power and demonizing it in fact is actually condemning.
@@joeking433 many other cultures believed in an afterlife before Christianity came into the picture. How is that evil?
This guy needs to preach to his people in alabama
This is sinister and sickening. Seeing history repeat itself before our very eyes. These people deserve to be respected & have their privacy and beliefs protected as well.
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My exact sentiments
There’s a reason why Catholics have historically done a much better job than evangelicals when it comes to converting other cultures. I’m not a Catholic myself, but their missionary philosophy has a history of purposefully integrating certain native traditions, which I would say is both a far more ethical and successful approach.
What is sinister is spreading atheism and the religion of Satan.
Mao Zedong had the right idea. Demolish the churches, arrest the clergymen and send them labor camps for re-education.
This was heartbreaking. As a Christian, sometimes Christians are the most arrogant people. They assume that they have the right to force other people to their beliefs. The Amazonians have ancestral knowledge about biodiversity, the land, and animals. They have so much to teach us. Missionaries should help others, and expect nothing in return. That is what being a 'Christian' means.
My brother I disagree with you, the main reason why they are there is because they want to spread the gospel of Christ to that part of the world. so get it clear, Our Lord says Jesus is winning
Your 100% correct. I believe with my entire heart that the Bible teaches us to help people with nothing in return. We should never approach people preaching to them. Who are we to tell these ppl they are wrong. If they see the Lord within us then we have achieved the work of the Lord.
@@omodeeable2000 does our Lord not call us to help those less fortunate? So if I have a blanket that u need shall I tell u that I will pray for u to receive a blanket or would I just hand you the blanket?
@@perlajim3735 when are we going to stop this bread and butter christainity. The main reason why they are there is to preach the gospel of christ to them, not to respect their idolatry ways of living, what comes secondary is to help them in their need. so please dont get it twisted.
@@omodeeable2000 show me in your Christian Bible the scriptures that say you must preach at people then help them. Also show me your proof of the indigenous tribes being wrong in their beliefs? You can't just like you cannot prove that we as Christians are correct. We believe in the unseen and we humble ourselves to the understanding of a higher power. How dare we tell people you must believe what I believe. Why should they not only see the good of the Lord in us?
It's arrogant to believe one can improve indigenous lives by bringing their beliefs to them.
Why knowingly disrupt a community who is not threatening you in any way? I live a simple life. I choose not to see people as a way to an end. At the end of the day my heart and mind is whole.
But you will die the second death while many people will live for eternity. That's the downside of your plan.
@@joeking433 No one cares about your delusions
@@avinashreji60 au contrare mon frere! Over two billion people believe the same "delusions" as I! It's actually you smug little atheist fools that are in the minority! ;)
@@joeking433 proves nothing, most of that was through colonialism and warfare
@@avinashreji60 It doesn't matter how or why people believe the "delusions" I do, it showed that you are a liar when you said no one cared about my "delusions" for over two billion people believe the same "delusions". What is more accurate would be to say that few people believe in YOUR delusions!
As a former evangelical, this video is a good portrayal of how much of a cult evangelicalism is. It's not a cult around one leader, but their entire worldview. Anything that aligns with their interpretation of the Bible is good and anything that goes against it is bad.
That is brave of you to say and it takes really strong critical thinking to escape such a heavy belief system. I went from agnostic to aetheist- after spending time in Jerusalem, seeing the ongoing war between various factions and even seeing the apparent tomb where Jesus was supposed to have risen from- complete with red paint on the floor! (The Romans demolished most of the parts of Jerusalem that were then rebuilt and considered holy today).
Evangelism is like the McDonald's or Wal*Mart of religion. I was raised Mormon in Utah and I have a pure disdain for ALL organized religion. It's all an authoritarian forced faith social club. It is rare for Christian efforts abroad to make a lasting, meaningful difference - particularly in third world nations. Most of those efforts are at their core, self serving. They seem walk away feeling righteous, patting themselves on the back for spreading their beliefs and helping "lost souls". I have learned one thing about Christianity in my life - there is no hate like Christian love.
@@deimosapex5402 it's definitely on the cult end of the spectrum. Cults have high need for control, often use deceptive recruiting and very hierarchical power structures and a constant need to recruit.
Interpretation is the word most evangelical Christians are missing. And I can assure you, they’re misinterpreting
@@deimosapex5402 You are truly lost in resentment. I hope you find you're way back
I hate that they can't take a no for an answer and they keep exposing these people to disease. Yes they take medicine but it comes at a huge cost to them. Just let people be happy with what they believe and stop trying to show your religion down their throats. Respect people's differences! This passes me off the way that they are manipulative and you are destroying them.
They are litterally requested to show up
@@gabrielgabro6797 and? Does it make it right? It needs to stop, they're killing people
Exactly ❤✊
then don't take part in the transaction and leave the medicine alone, no? that's what I would do if I was disinterested in their religion. And those aren't real Christians anyway. a Christian would help without needing something back.
@@koffz-nl2118 no Christians always want something usually very youth boys and girls.
People like this think of themselves as righteous - that makes them extraordinary dangerous and unhinged. Think of how terrifying the words "I'm going to save you wether you want to be saved or not" could be if taken to the extreme. The Spanish Inquisition is a great example.
They're confusing righteousness with self-righteousness.
Tribes, intelligent people that use their own brain, and anyone else that has their own thought processes, should NEVER "bow" to others that try to "push" their own agendas!! Thinking for yourself, gives you true meaning to your own life direction, and fulfilment!!
Ahh, sanity! Well said! Thank you.
History of Hawaii is a good example of what happens when missionaries arrive and are allowed to remain.
Definitely
Hawaii New Zealand Australia.
Ah, so you're against mass immigration? Doesn't that make you racist and xenophobic?!
Christian colonization is the single most destructive force in human history.
Those islands are now civilized, and thriving in the modern world.
As an Indigenous of the US.. i cry for these People. The same thing happened to us.
I remb this white lady telling me, (I am Cherokee) that my people Wanted to know their ways smh
@@onjuliombrella2513 That's disgusting, I'm sorry someone tried to gaslight you about your own history like that.
U Danm savages ruin everything
They made a full video without showing anything that the missionaries are doing wrong.
The only wrong thing I saw is that they are bringing diseases to the uncontacted tribes. That is definitely not good and they should stop going to completely isolated tribes. Apart from that? Anything wrong? They're not forcing anything on anyone.
I thought this was a journalistic video. If it was, it would've also shown the amount of help the missionaries are providing without asking for anything in return. Missionaries leave their comfortable lives and go to these jungles. What for? Money - far from it. Fame - nope. What for?
Because they experienced a change in their lives because of Jesus. And they want to share it with others. They don't want to see anyone go to hell because of not hearing the gospel.
Do better VICE
It's a disease. It's horrific.
As a Christian, this is despicable. They call themselves going in God’s name to spread His word. But they go without walking in God’s grace, mercy and love.
I am a christ-ian! I follow the teachings of a real and historically documented CHRIST LORD BUDDHA!! THE LORD.!! CHRIST! WHAT is a lord anyway??? WHAT is a christ?? HOW MANY exist in the entire universe?? Not known, and yet ppl MAKE BELIEF of stories from JUST ONE EARTH STORYBOOK!
9:33 The fact that he can’t look the interviewer or the camera in the eye is very telling, even he knows it’s wrong, he just has his own motives.
I'm so proud of the indigenous people for standing up against this!
Why?
@@javiervega1065 because I don't like the agenda of these missonaries. If they want to help improve the indigenous community they should do it without having an agenda of converting them.
@@luvzfrance24 maybe many of them want to embrace Christianity
@@javiervega1065 embracing harmful beliefs isn't a good thing.
@@yuyukawa9104 Christianity is the best thing you can embrace
This is an issue that should have long been addressed and covered before now. It is baffling to me how these missionaries and missionary groups cannot comprehend that indigenous tribes just want to be left alone. There is nothing wrong with believing in God and being a Christian but there is most definitely something wrong with imposing your beliefs on someone else who has their own and chooses not to share yours.
Wrong by what absolute, unchanging, standard? Think about it. Jesus tells us to tell people that judgement is upon them and that we can be saved through faith in him. According to the authority of King Jesus, it is a moral good and divine command, a love for God and neighbour. I'm gonna choose Jesus Christ over Ian Hampton.
Preaching Jesus Christ so that people are saved is not an act of imposing one's religion. God the creator wants people to be saved and not end up lost without salvation. That's the whole point of preaching to these people. In fact, if these so called indigenous people will not repent and believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ then, the horrible judgement awaits them.....
@@jordantheriverman6143 As you should because like you I am but a flesh and blood human being who like every other human being is on borrowed time and will one day return to the dust from which I came. Jesus as you said reigns over me, you, and all living things. But guess what though? Not all living things were created the same and therefore should not be treated the same. Indigenous peoples are living, breathing creatures with their own beliefs, practices, religion, etc. They keep to themselves and do not impose what they do upon anyone or anything else. Besides that the main problem here is these tribes are fed up with evangelicals intruding on their land and building constantly. It is no different than when missionaries in earlier centuries tried to convert Native Americans and ignorantly called them savages, wild animals, etc. Spreading and promoting the gospel of Jesus Christ is one thing but it should be done with consideration and respect for others who may or may not accept it.
@@gabbykamfwa7119 if "god" wanted people to be saved, he would save them. Does he not have the power to do whatever he wants? It seems to me that all your god really wants is praise and adoration. His love is conditional and selfish, with the same gross ego of any of the "lesser gods" we've heard about all throughout history. God and "the Devil" are obviously one in the same.
@@jelatinosa our creator is not god he is the God. Secondly, he wants people to be saved hence sending the missionaries, he has all power and that is demonstrated through his love in Jesus Christ his son...the love of our creator is unconditional....glory to the lamb of God...we are called to salvation, we ought to repent and seek Christ. I choose Jesus Christ the God not a god....
As an indigenous person who is a devote follower of Christ, I cry for my fellow native brothers and sisters. These “Christians” are workers of iniquity and they aren’t true followers of Jesus. This isn’t how the apostles spread the gospel. These are wolves dressed in sheep’s clothing and all they want is power, fame, and money. Jesus didn’t force anybody to follow him and Jesus served the people. I pray that these people change their ways and are more concerned about what’s right than trying to be perceived as right.
Vice audience news, I would like to offer an alternative take on this: I am Brazilian and I've been to the Amazon a few times in my life. My family is originally from there. The contact between native Brazilians and European descendants is way more nuanced than this video suggests. When the Portuguese and other Europeans came to Brazil, they aligned with different tribes that were at war with each other. Native Brazilians were not living in peace, in harmony with nature, or any of that. They were just as destructive as people in any other part of the world. And so are they today. Granted, Europeans had no right to take away their land or to impose their beliefs. However, contact between different people is way more complicated than this video suggests. Brazilian religion is a mix of Catholicism, African and Native beliefs. Rest assured, if things continue to go the way they are, there will be a Native Brazilian branch of Christianity that will leave American Evangelicals puzzled.
Yeah, the whole situation is very complex
Yes, very true. Wish that the segment had expanded more on how the native Christians still want to spread the gospel, yet are also against the foreign missionaries.
brunorosi has the first based response to the video I've seen in the comments. Most everybody else is just anti-christian.
@@earlysda much agreed here, it's nice to hear a comment with an objective perspective about the situation. I'd imagine realistically there's definitely a lot more going on than a bunch of missionaries bringing christianity to the amazonians (who btw, yes there are rude and condescending missionaries but that cannot be every missionary preaching in the Amazon, but at the same time, not every missionary is considerate of the traditional culture)
@@boaoftheboaians Exactly, Boa, I too know of some rude, condescending, money-hungry, power-mad missionaries. But the majority I've met are quite humble and really want to see as many people as possible helped in this life, and to receive eternal life with Jesus. :)
Organized religion has been the cause of much suffering.
These missionaries are a huge part of the divide and problems in Africa.
Unorganized religion and spirituality as well.
@@sharwama992 BS, evangelicalism in Africa is poison, worse than islam
@@kijnek Loud purple aspic
@@sharwama992 Muslims don't force nothing. The Arabs were here in Africa way before the white man and they never forced anyone. Why do you need the need to lie bro... Most African countries are Christian because of the colonials and that is a fact
wow, insane props to the fumai agent who spoke boldly against jair and his regime. must have taken an incredible amount of courage to know you're putting your professional career and trajectory at risk to speak on what is right.
Regime? It is still a democracy. Where do you get that from? Vice should do a video on the Corruption Hustory that Funai has. This is not a simple topic to go over, especially under 15 minutes
No, he will not be fired, Brazil has laws that protect him from being fired for any political reason, in many cases even doing something wrong people who work in Government entities do not get fired.
Jesus Christ peace be upon Him never said to people to worship him, its the pagan church like "st augustin" who tried to falsifie the verse "that they may Know you the only true God and Jesus Christ whome you have sent" cause it shows clear cut that neither Jesus nor the holy spirit is God but they r only messangers. Do they really Believe that The Creator of the Universe Come out of woman private parts, got breast fed, got to toilets, do u really Believe that God The Immortal got stripped naked tortured then killed by a roman satanic soldier using a cross that later on u need to glorify?! Jesus Christ peace be upon Him didnt teach all this pagan evil church stuff! God doesnt need blood sacrifice of an innocent prophet thats a pagan concept introduced (bible falsification) by The same evil sufi powers who r now trying to convince muslims to call upon righteous dead Muslims instead of God alone. alhamdulelLeh in Islam's scriptures there is no intermediate no person to confess to or pray to..its the belief of the fitra the natural inclinations that says God never dies never get tired doesnt begot children nor have wife
his life, too
@@GlaucoLabas of course he can be fired. Or even worse. There's no law in the Amazon anymore.
To the people of Brasil, as an American I hope you know that our government is not a democracy. We have no control over it, if it wants to permit these missionaries traveling to your country, then we have no say in the choice. Much love, much compassion.
Actually that means it is a democracy lol. That means there is no power of the government to stop them lmao
@@user-rv6cx3rz7t it means that the government allows who can do something or who cannot instead of the citizens. What part didn’t you understand?
I have given tons and tons of money to ministries such as these. Many people here glorify the poor and comprehensively ignorant tribes as "indigenous" people. And you wish to keep them in the ignorance of their cultures. But these people do not live the romantic but simple lives that many appear to think they live. They are suffering. The Christians want to bring them out of their poverty, their backwardness, and illness. They are not taking illnesses to them - not as an emblematic aspect of ministry. I suspect some people wish the Christians to simply give them money while leaving them in darkness. The Christians wish to teach, heal, and introduce them to the God Who wishes to save them from hell. Say what you will against them. I will continue supporting them. And so will my children after me.
Some Christians still have a problem with understanding consent: "no means no"
Catholicism certainly has a problem with concent and age of concent, just ask any alterboy 😉
@@mullm5375 are you an altar boy? xD
@@wewenang5167
Why, are you touching little boys for Jesus?
@@mullm5375 catholicism is paganism
@@chirho8657
I think you need to look up what a pagan is.
This still goes on in the States on Native American reservations, tribes are constantly bombarded with this evangelical ideology and missionaries. Luckily there is a resurgence in our cultural and ceremonial practices, I applaud our youth for taking up lead in our struggle to be able to practice our ways and ceremonies that our creator gave us.
And US Politicians try for the religious population as well, I imagine this is the case in every country to different degrees?
Feel for this. My husband has his card showing he has native blood. However, somehow I'm more versed in Cherokee mythology and practices than he is. Its been interesting watching him with his mother in law anyways because upon learning about that my mother has now taken it upon herself to take him to some of the sights and museums so he can learn about his own heritage. It makes it a little easier knowing that we live in Oklahoma so Native American culture is a bit more of a thing here than some other southern states but still.
@@kimberlyhurlbut4819 This is the damage that colonizers have done to us with their Godless Christian culture. Christians to say, Kill the Indian, Save The Man. Christians intentions were to terrorize us into amnesia, about ourselves.
@@kimberlyhurlbut4819 I went out there yesterday and to get some dinner my friend had a hot dog, it was a good time
cool . . . . when are they going to start sacrificing babies and animals?
As a Christian myself I respect those who chose not to convert because its their decision and I if you want to live your life like that you can
Why is it so hard to leave Indigenous people alone?
The level of denial that most evangelicals live in is preposterous. It is certainly a main factor in causing such blatant, rampant discrimination against indigenous and poverty stricken people.
Uhh ok....wtf did the Pope and the Roman Catholic Church do for these people?
@@edmonddantes5104 and what exactly do catholics have to do with what was said? Did anyone say catholics do better? Just illogically throwing in stuff that has nothing to do with the topic
You do realize Christianity isn't a white man's religion, right? It arose out of the middle east. "Indigenous" is a "POC" supremacy term.
@@berabingol3231 yea because Brasil was run by the Portugese and RCC for a long time. Just like why other countries in Latin America run by the catholic church are so poor
@@edmonddantes5104 that the Portuguese had anything to say in Brazil is a little too long ago to blame anything on them. If you have to go back that far to justify ur accusation than I am sorry to say that u still didn't make a point. And yet again because i guess u don't understand my point. What exactly do catholics have anything to do with that documentary or what the original commentator wrote? Cause u act like anyone says catholics r so cool while there wasn't even an indication that would even lead to such an assumption. Ur yet another politicized person who is only blaming anyone as if everyone is against you.
“They worship the demons they worship the evil spirits” made my blood boil! How could you say that about someone’s beliefs/religion and these religions are so interesting and those who believe they worship demons are the ones killing them and their religion and way of life. Shame on the missionaries
Not only that, but they call themselves christiana when they don't help without expecting something in return...
No point trying to shame an Evangullible,. They are shameless. They will commit any number of sins without a second thought. Jesus would hate them.
Centuries ago the Portuguese and Spanish missionaries did the same thing and today it's the evangelical Americans are doing it. this is dangerous to label something as " evil" just because of a different belief. Ironically today's catholic church in Latin America is not a radical as the evangelicals and that's saying something
There is no other way, it's incompatible with the absolute cosmology of heaven and hell.
Agreed. Disgusting behaviour.
The worst kind of people are people who are there under the insidious guise of ‘for your own good’.
Being American who is deemed atheist, seeing things like this, it really bothers me to the core how evangelicals feel it is their duty to push their religion on a culturally rich indigenous people.
Just because you see a people who are living by their own culture and lifestyle, does not give you the right to impose your beliefs on them to further spread your competitive religion.
This is so detached from the Biblical worldview that Christians actually hold. No one is going "Oh ew they have their OWN culture and lifestyle!"
Come on Kent, take an emic perspective: why do Christians go out into all the world and preach the Gospel to every creature?
As a Brazilian, this is terrifying...
It's amazing.
@@ahmed_yusuf364 *Salvation* can be found in no other name under Heaven other than THE NAME of Jesus THE CHRIST/BSHEM *YESHUA* HA MASHIACH. for HE alone IS THE ONLY WAY THE ONLY TRUTH and THE ONLY WAY to Eternal life and no one gets to HASHEM/GOD ecept through HIM. so i only ask all who are here if not already to please choose this day to trust in YESHUA HA MASHIACH that HE died in your place to make atonement for your sins that was seperating you from GOD so that by believing this and trusting in HIM that HE rose from the grave that you too by believing in HIM will one day rise from the dead and have eternal life and be saved from The Terrifying Wrath of HASHEM that is to come to all who reject YESHUA as THE MESSIAH of Israel and SAVIOR of The Whole World that HE rightly, truly IS. i ask please do this so that even today will be your *Day of Salvation*
@@ahmed_yusuf364 It's disgusting
@@jasonkemmerer5654 Yeah brother, most everything you said.
@@ahmed_yusuf364 GOD bless you brother
The north Sentinelese are very aware of missionaries, they react accordingly.
Yeah.......bow and arrow.
Not just missionaries but everyone
@@TheGamingCanadian And for good reason as well.
@@mrt8179 Honestly as a Baptist myself I can’t blame them 😂
"They came to try to introduce God into their lives, but were made to meet God themselves instead."
When ancient missionaries reach the other (european)tribes, they introduce letters to help write the their native languages and make many books in their native languages for them. Today's missionaries...
How do they know there's 10 tribes that are uncontacted if they've never been talked to by the outside world??
As a Baptist, if there’s one thing I’ve learned is that you have to be careful with mega churches. Some of them are just there for the money
Definitely
Every leader of a mega church around here is a trophy wife and lives in McMansion
Church has always been a racket from the get go. Right wing evangelical mega churches are no exception.
And to not go on missionary trips
SOME of them???
I’m so glad I left evangelicalism. It took the first 25 years of my life, but it won’t take the next 25. Kudos to these tribes standing up!!
I’ve said it once on this channel and I’ll say it again: Evangelicalism is one of Brazil’s biggest cancers.
@John Grigg I would have to write an essay lol. At the end of the day, I no longer believed that the Bible was the perfect word of God, and for me, that was the first of many dominoes to fall.
Wait... So you're gonna die when you're 50?
You made a good decision. The tribes worship the God of nature, the true God. Evangelicals worship a cult like false God that orders mutilation of young boys. Just look at em raising their arms in the air, cult fanatics.
@@baybae92 What you are saying dosen't make any sense. The bible was the same all those 25 years. I think you lost yourself to the temptation. The devil sows doubt in our heads everyday. Maybe some other stuff went wrong in your life and you became disheartened.
I feel so sorry for the indigenous pastor. Taken away from his roots and ancenstry. Looking down on his past self, live and the ones before him as sinful. I can imagine it all coming crashing down one day and him feeling so lost and lonely.
Community and upbringing is everything and he believes it has all been bad. Thats so sad.
If he personally finds greater joy and truth in Christianity, why should he practice the religion of his family and culture? Many former Christians in these comments are denouncing the practices of their communities and past selves as immoral/sinful. Perhaps they too feel lost and lonely but it's their right to search for spiritual succor that satisfies them outside of what they were taught. Is it not the same for him?
@@ChronoSoul oh yeah, you are actually so right. kinda eye opening even. i am a former christian and pretty bitter with the religion i was brought up in. so you are very much on point here ^^ Maybe its good not to view everything so extremly. Meaning, not to view EVERYTHING that I/he was brought up in as sinful/immoral but to be able to see the good things about it and still be able to pursue whatever brings me/him joy outside or inside of the field of upbringing. I feel like religion shouldnt be able to control such large parts of ones thinking and feeling as to it making you denounce parts of YOURSELF though. You kinda got me on the bitternes there, but that point I still feel very much to be true. You shouldnt serve religion, it should serve you. Maybe I was seeing his thinking and feeling kinda beeing forced by Christianity, the same way I feel now I was beeing forced. Its very much an assumption tho. If hes happier and finding joy in it, I shouldnt judge that, youre absolutetly right. The condition for me, from my point of view now, is, that it shouldnt stop him/me from still beeing able to pursue all things that bring him/me joy, even if they may be outside of christianity or any other religion. Dont know if I made my point clear and also sorry for any grammar mistakes, I am not native to english.
I am Brazilian from the Amazon, this has been going on for many centuries, we are already the region with the most Catholics and Evangelicals in the country, a large part of the population of the Amazon is not indigenous, but whites and mestizos who try to encourage the natives to follow their religion
When the white man brought the bible, we had the land. When we closed our eyes and prayed, they had the land and we had the Bible.
I was in North Eastern India and I saw first hand organizations that were fighting to preserve tribal beliefs in the face of these missionaries.
Which organisation entire northeast is influenced by Christianity. Even politics. Just visit Nagaland and Mizoram.
@@awesomevideo5525 Sheng Khasi in Khasi hills, Sheng Raij in Jainitia Hills, Ramakrishna Mission, Donyi Polo in Arunachal Pradesh, etc.
@VI Si, Ramakrishna Mission is a brahminical organisation. Who is going to save the North East from them?
@@dayamra9747 in North East, Ramakrishna Mission does not convert tribals. I went to the Ramakrishna mission in Cherrapunjee. There, they have non denominational prayer rooms where tribals come and pray according to their ancestral religions.
They do not impose beef ban on them, nor do they teach them about Hindu dieties, rather hire tribal priests to lead tribal prayer services. They don't have hindu temples there.
They also teach the tribals about their proud history and encourage their tribal languages.
I was very surprised by that visit (since I am a beef eating atheist myself)
Did these organizations want their people to take drugs?
This is when people can’t mind their damn business
When was 16 my church went on a missions trip to Campinas, Brazil. We painted the same orphanage that every church group painted. We created attachments with the kids that we broke. I don’t think we made a difference at all. What DID happen is that the American missionaries put two locals of extremely poor character in charge of some of us. They were barely associated with the church and the missionaries knew that they were not safe to be around. They knew that these locals were there to gain access to Americans in order to exploit us. The missionaries just thought that involving them would help convert them. My 16 year-old-self and another girl were taken by these two - their names were Tiago and Bisqüí - to the empty parking lot of a soccer stadium parking lot. Two people were waiting for us. A man and a woman. I was terrified. They checked us out. I spoke a little bit of Portuguese at the time but not enough to know what was going on. I had horrible acne and I was a sweaty mess. I kept looking at my friend and trying to communicate with my eyes that I was very scared- something was wrong. They didn’t speak to us at all- just to the locals. Finally - the two people said something and we were rushed back into the car very suddenly. I still don’t know what happened. We told one of the other long-term missionaries what had happened to us and she started freaking out. She said that they had taken us to the worst neighborhood of Campinas and that we could have been kidnapped, raped, or murdered. She still did nothing. I finally sat down and told the story to an actual Brazilian woman who was helping with the trip and she was the first person to take it seriously. Tiago and Biqüí were banned from being in charge of any more of us kids. But I still don’t know what happened on that trip. I joke that I was almost kidnapped because that’s what it felt like. My gut at the time told me that we were in an incredible amount of danger. It is still something I think about from time to time. I’m still not a fan of missions trips for this reason, among others. We were not equipped to help in any way, and neither were the folks in charge.
As an atheist, I feel so sad about this. Indigenous cultures are rich and have such depth. Americanized evangelicalism is about as culturally deep as a McDonald's drive-through. I grieve for those who are lacking self-respect, self-knowledge, self-courage and feel they must turn to a mythical "man in the sky" to prop them up. I have seen zero evidence a god exists. I have plenty of evidence that nature exists. If I were someone who prayed, I would pray that all evangelicals would realize how they are being manipulated by those in power who only want their money.
God is not a man in the sky....God is ISness....
You can still pray because that is physics....thoughts influence the world around us...if you don't believe me imagine yourself sitting next to a very angry person...then imagine yourself sitting next to a very happy person...you readily feel the difference. I would suggest checking out Buddhism and/or learn to meditate..you might find that interesting and I am not talking about the mere mythology regarding the Buddha.
Yeah, evangelicalism TRULY SUCKS! Most indigenous cultures possess true wisdom. There is NEVER Only 'one way'!
@@myronschabe Personally, I'd rather take action rather than waste my time praying. If you want to talk about the science of thought change and how that impacts behavior - that's something else entirely. For the sake of propriety, I will totally ignore the god is isness because that's just hyperbole.
@@j.v.5499 Yeah, for sure, take action, as it is part and parcel, but as you are acknowledging thought change.. is real and effective. Talk to some top tier competitive athletes what are they now taught to do but to visualize their perfect routines etc. that is essentially prayer...that is what I am talking about...
The isness phrase is not just hyperbole...it is 'the door'.
Yeah, there is no 'man in the sky', so in that sense there is no God, but you can realize you are not an individuated separate self, which is the cause of all suffering, but the mere witness of consciousness itself.
Evangelicals are too ignorant to realize that doctrines such as the prosperity gospel are antithetical to the biblical gospels. All the more reason to dismiss their ravings and deny them the political power they crave.
There's a popular t-shirt slogan in Mexico:
Front of shirt: Jesus, save me...
Back of shirt: From your followers.
I attended a Brazilian evangelical church for nearly ten years and decided to leave for good a few years ago. My people are indigenous to the Nile Valley and we have our own practices which are very similar to the indigenous tribes around the world, as most indigenous tribes have similar practices. I was amazed when I read the native Americans have the same spirituality my people pratice. As an African woman, it no longer made any sense to me to uphold and preach the religion of the colonizers who invaded our continent and forced their religion and killed many people in the name of "God" and Christianity. These people had a plan to wipe out the spiritual practices of the indigenous people which we have still preserved from the times of living in Egypt. Nobody has any right to enter our land and disrespect my ancestors when you were the ones who were uncivilised. To hell with these scumbags and their bibles and if I ever encounter these people I will personally make sure they never enter my country again.
I will no longer be replying to the simple minded ignorant people who do not know that Christianity is NOT native to East Africa. Religion in itself means to be tied back and that I will no longer be. We are spiritual cosmic beings, my people have always known we are. These religions are like the bubonic plague to our Motherland and to claim Christianity is native to Africa is an insult. Ethiopia was part of Kush by the way so Christianity is not native to this region either and I suggest many of you should also read into the plagiarism of the Bible, the Black Madonna from Egypt whom the pope still worships until today, the similarities of ancient practices and the Bible and you will see that the Bible is simply plagiarised from Ancient African Spirituality. The truth will always prevail, and we Africans are now waking up to the spells the deceptions of these false ideologies that have been twisted. You can stay there if you would like, but many of us are free. We are no longer bound.
We are one. We are people of the Earth and Sun. Much love Sister
@@macck4350 💖💫💖 Much love!!!
@@KushQueen9 Good for you for seeing the light and leaving that church!
This! 🤗
You go, girl! Return to your African roots of human sacrifice and cannibalism.
I was born and raised in a Christian evangelical household, 99.99% of my family from both sides is evangelical and I was told that if I did something wrong, God was going to punish me. I always thought that that was wrong if they also told me that God was love I questioned everything they said about the Bible. When I was at school, the same happened I couldn't really understand why horrible things were done in the name of God. With baptism as well, my parents always told me that it was something that "we" Christians felt and when we were ready the I could get baptized... That moment never came to me and my brother and I were still forced to do it, my little sister was the only one who saved herself from that as we moved out of the neighborhood and stopped going to church (they also forced us to go to every service, as punishment) I had some traumatic experiences happening to me back in 2014 and I decided to 'stop' believing in God, I felt stressed having to attend church when I didn't even felt comfortable with the people, they were not nice... I consider myself agnostic now, I can't forget what I was taught for most of my life, but after I made my decision to stop going to church, I felt so much better. I hope indigenous people get more support and win! Is not fair and is disrespectful that they are forcing their beliefs on them
Ever read the story of the prodigal son? Hmmm.
Sister and fellow ARMY, I wish you all the strenght in the world to go your own loving path. You can do it! And please don't fear a hell, there is no burning hell, it's just a narrative they made up to terrorize children and people. If anything, when you do bad stuff here on earth, you basically live in hell right now, because you cannot have and feel love at the same time, both don't coexist.
I questioned Catholicism in Poland for the first time at 9 years old, when I rightfully confessed to my priest that I had not sinned since the last time (which I hadn't as I was an angel of a child) and he started ranting and jelling that I should stop lying and we are all sinners and bal bla bla, I felt betrayed. I detached myself from then on slowly, after we moved to Germany did not go to church at all and years later when I had to pay church taxes I officially dropped out at 25. Even though the church sometimes does good stuff, I can give that charity directly, I don't want to fund some mind terrorists, child abusers and pedophiles. The only thing I find enjoyable nw are some stories and churches for the sake of art, architecture and occasionally music.
@@skarbuskreska Well, actually there is a hell but you won't stay there forever. There will be a point where your soul will be destroyed. That's what the Bible says.
Being a Christian is about serving others and expecting nothing in return. I find it rather disgusting when Christians (not even real christians) say things like you'll go to he'll if you don't convert and other things. I'm a Christian myself and people like this give us such a bad reputation, like no ones going to want to be a Christian after all this hate and resentment you show! I find it rather disgusting and humiliating. I went on a missions trip myself and all we did was serve, we handed out food to homeless, built houses, and taught kids English. We would talk to people and connect with them. I find this rather ridiculous the amount of hatred some Christians have. And they aren't even Christians if they're doing this 🙄🙄
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Recently, an amiga of mine, a Huichola of that indigenous tribe of Mexico, revealed to me that her life was put in danger during the 1990s, by a governments program had an IUD placed in her without her permission after giving birth to her first child. This was a government policy that I don’t think reflects the current Mexican government’s attitude about Mexico’s indigenous. But during that period, it was an obvious effort at genocide of Mexico’s indigenous peoples. These IUDs would rot and oxidize in the women, causing many to die said my friend. She herself suffered damage to her womb from the IUD that was there without her knowledge. She is currently struggling to pay the medical bills that are the result of surgery she needed after giving birth to her second child.
Bolsinaro is obviously against the indigenous of Brazil, and would like nothing better than to have the missionaries enter the Amazon and infect those not immunologically prepared to meet the onslaught…
Similarly happened to the people of Puerto Rico when the US government used our women as guinea pigs to test out hormonal birth control. The birth control had several times higher hormone levels than they do now and cause several women to die, many to suffer blood clots, cancers and depression. They also performed forced sterilization and hysterectomies on women if they already had two or more kids. It's terrible what white men have done to minority communities all over the world. It's hard to believe it still goes on til this day, but clearly it does.
Omgggg this is horrible!!!!
There is always ulterior motives when it comes to religion and that sadly is one.
@@KushQueen9 I'm sure there are many more places where we've tried to sterilize ppl we thought were unworthy of reproducing.
@@831mrscardoso you should look into nordic countries. The Romani/Gypsy people as they are called were forcefully sterilized against their wishes. This was in 70s-80s.
Thousands of them were sterilized.
And these countries give nobel peace prize too.
And people find it hard to believe but racial supremacy actually comes from religious supremacy. Blacks were enslaved on the basis of "curse of ham" first because religion justified slavery at that time. The scientific racism came later.
"They worship the demons, they worship the evil spirits". The fact I thought at one point in my life this was righteous makes me ill. Nobody has the right to tell anyone their culture is debased.
What about when cannibals were EATING PEOPLE? Is that debased or not? But you say "let them"? Call upon the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be SAVED! Jesus loves you! Your life is precious! Get a king james bible and believe. Read Matthew. Read 1 John 4.
Well, it's a reality they will soon realize. Spreading the Truth is always beneficial! Evil spirits are a really nasty reality for pagan indigenous tribes.
Don't listen to the Christian parrots above this reply. Spam comments, can't even be legit.
she’s right tho they worship demons lol why you think their so resentful toward God
They literally worship demons that's why the demons are trying there hardest to keep the gospel from being spread to there tribes demons wanna keep them in ignorance and sin..
VICE News, please make longer episodes .... These are intriguing topics. 🤷🏻
The people here are brave and wise. All the best to them
This just makes me so angry. As an ex-evangelical, I'm doubly sickened because I know their religion really makes them think what they're doing is God's work, when it's just colonialism under a different guise. So many evangelicals are brainwashed to the point they can't think critically about their religion or see the harm it causes.
Yes, that is when it gets truly dangerous...this 'doing God's work business. What arrogance!
God has been doing his own work throughout time, just like the indigenous person said.
So, see, they're actually doing "the devil's" work... and they are full of disease, which these naturally God tuned people don't have. The roles should be reversed, obviously...
@@Fari-100 Yes, if you are saying the evangelicals are doing 'the devil's work' I totally agree.
Humility is one of the greatest human virtues. JC was full of humility himself.
@@myronschabe yep, that is what I am saying...
@@myronschabe Jesus also commanded us to give the Gospel to all nations, baptising them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Are we meant to ignore that?
You can't even imagine how much harm missionaries caused in South America through history
And no good whatsoever ?
@@Letsallparty2 No!
From day one just another greedy arrogant misogynist recipe for environmental degradation .
No thank you, leave me/ us alone not enough they want whatever you have and to make you wrong.
@@Letsallparty2 Yes for Spain,.. its called conquest over 23 million gone so Europeans can wear sandals here.
Same for our African continent.
A gente não precisa da religião só precisa viver como uma boa pessoa
Withholding aid. Helping with caveats. This is not charity. This is hostage taking.
This was a hard watch but a necessary one. The more I watch this the more I cry internally for the cultures lost in Kenya. Like this is so disgusting. Creating a problem and selling a solution through conversion, just as they did to various African communities. And now our fellow Africans have taken over and continue to do the colonisers work.
Christianity and Islam have taken over many many cultures around the globe and their missionaries are still spreading their religious beliefs until today.
Cope
@Sandy Gem these indigenous people already believe in their own deities why would you want them to abandon theirs and accept yours, it makes absolutely no sense at all!
@Empyrea_254 we finally meet on these streets 😅😅.
And yes it's sickening how we lost our identity. I feel kinda sad for the future generations
Wait but are you referring to these Brazilian indigenous tribes as “fellow Africans”? Isn’t Brazil in South America? They’re South American not African-
So this American youth pastor guy is just operating with these little indigenous boys totally unsupervised? Nothing bad has ever happened with that situation before.
Look at the pictures they showed of that old white man putting his hands arround those almost na-ked indigenous people look at it carefully!
As soon as he mentioned saving them from homosexuality, I thought: yeah he’s fondling little boys 100%
His energy is so off putting and full of arrogance. I don't feel God's love when he speaks but get predatory vibes from him instead.
@@joannediaz8978 Agreed. He was even looking away from the reporter as she was talking to him. So smug and willfully ignorant
My church goes down to Haiti but we don’t just preach the gospel, we feed thousands of children everyday for a year with our ministry.
It’s so fascinating, that even the remotest, untouched tribes of the earth have their own spiritual practices and a desire to worship a being higher than themselves🤯.
Thank you for exposing and showing what is going on. We stand with ALL indigenous people. May they stand strong in their sovereignty.
The problem here are leftist ideology.
God alone has absolute sovereignty. Jesus Christ is LORD
@@jordantheriverman6143 Lol, we don't need to subscribe to your colonisers religion. We reject it as nonsense.
@@jordantheriverman6143 Culty
@@jordantheriverman6143 Ah yes, the same logic that has been employed by the psychotic fanatics of every culture, religion, and historical era.
It's so sickening seeing missionaries devastate cultures like this. I'm native american, just knowing what these people did to the older generations over here including many people who are still alive makes me so sick to see that they're still out doing this. These people have no morals. They're disgusting.
They made a full video without showing anything that the missionaries are doing wrong.
The only wrong thing I saw is that they are bringing diseases to the uncontacted tribes. That is definitely not good and they should stop going to completely isolated tribes. Apart from that? Anything wrong? They're not forcing anything on anyone.
I thought this was a journalistic video. If it was, it would've also shown the amount of help the missionaries are providing without asking for anything in return. Missionaries leave their comfortable lives and go to these jungles. What for? Money - far from it. Fame - nope. What for?
Because they experienced a change in their lives because of Jesus. And they want to share it with others. They don't want to see anyone go to hell because of not hearing the gospel.
Do better VICE
Saving souls from hell is evil.? Look in the mirror how many sins do you commit daily?
@@Richie_Alpha_Rabbit69 yes, what they do is evil. My ancestors were sterilized, beaten, murdered, etc by white Christians, as were many other people's ancestors. Take some accountability for what your people do. Almost any discrimination i've faced in my life has been specifically from Christians or religious people of other Abrahamic faiths.
@@Richie_Alpha_Rabbit69 . When you step into devil's territory , you'd expect opposition from his children . Who can stop the gospel from spreading ? They can do what they want , The Lord will get those that are his , Even if they're in the remotest part of the world .
Why don't you currently want eternal life thru Jesus Christ?
Unfortunately, missionaries going to foreign lands and proselytizing other people does not have a good track record as history shows. Many atrocities happened in the name of converting people to Christianity.
Similar thing happens in india with various hindu tribes that worship different gods. The common theme is calling their devotion as devil worship and teaching to hate the ways of their ancestors.
Leave those folks alone!
When I was a Christian, I worked as a missionary for a couple of years overseas and I had planned to make it my career. I'm shocked and disgusted that anyone would offer practical aid, quid pro quo, in exchange for watching videos about Jesus. Things like medical aid aren't supposed to be offered with strings attached, it's supposed to demonstrate the love of Yahweh/Jesus, period. If they'll listen to you about Jesus, fine, but you don't withhold aid in exchange for an audience. There's a lot about the church that disturbs me these days, it makes being atheist a bit easier. The increase in Christian nationalism is really disturbing as well. The Zealots tried to make Jesus king by force and he escaped from them, Peter cut off the ear of a Temple Guard to protect Jesus from crucifixion, but he scolded Peter and healed the guard. Jesus could have become an earthly ruler, but he didn't. And when he left, he commanded his followers to make disciples, voluntary. The fact that people could refuse was demonstrated in his teachings for them to go through the towns, door to door. He didn't tell them to set up a voting majority to use political power to enforce biblical laws. The people of the church have become so warped.
Are you familiar with Frank Schaeffer? He's an ex-evangelist as is really quite outspoken about the horrors of it.
Yes my church builds schools in impoverished countries and donates supplies and yes they teach they also teach Bible but they don’t force anyone to convert……
I am also disturbed by christian nationalism. Watch it grow as the end nears. The marrying of Ceasar and God won't end well. I believe this is actually part of the Second Beast mentioned in Revelations. Note; it has the same power and influence over the masses as the First Beast, and they work together. However, true disciples of Christ understand that we are citizens of heaven. Though in the world, we do not belong here and do not engage. We pray for whichever leadership is in place, live peacefully and pay our taxes. And we preach the Gospel of the Kingdom of God. We await a king from heaven who will make everything new... I fervently pray that you come back to Christ. I shed tears whenever one part of his body falls off. Come back, the Body needs you.
@@lagoonagoon5490 are the pics you guys shoe of Jesus a white man if so your mission was of white supremacy. The people from Jesus time with it black African or Arab looking
@@lagoonagoon5490 It is absolute lie. They do it in expectation of converting indigenous people to convert to Christianity.
Amen praise Jesus, hopefully souls are saved
This documentary begins with the assumption that evangelicals are wrong and native cultures are good. They assume also that it is a wonderful and gratifying thing to be a missionary. That missionaries are self-centered, bigoted, and evil. That it would be grand to live in a remote tribe where you wore beautiful feathers and didn't need clothes. That everyone in these tribes treats each other well, and that missionaries are destroying paradise on earth.
How naïve.
Deeper study reveals that the lives of tribal people are anything but pretty and happy. Fear and abuses abound.
Deeper study of the contributions of missionaries shows the opposite of the view expressed. Although poor and helpless in most ways, they have managed to not only bring medicine and literacy to much of the world, but have risked their lives to end "quaint" practices like:
suttee (widow burning)
human sacrifice
foot-binding
twin-killing
cannibalism
child prostitution
caste system
total male domination
And it is Christian missionaries who brought peace between warring tribes, and protected native rights against predators in such far-flung places as Hawaii, Brazil, Irian Jaya and Africa.
I will give you this: perhaps more care does need to be given to prevent bringing in diseases. And, current mission thought is that it is much better for mission work to be done by insiders than overseas missionaries - except for special help.
Yet - we don't see hordes of atheists either moving to these "ideal" areas to enjoy their benefits, or risking their lives help others to the degree that missionaries do.
As C.S. Lewis said, "Those who did the most good in this world are precisely those who thought most of the next."
But missionaries are indeed evil. Countries colonized by Europe and America are living proof of that.
This also happens in India, Kenya, Indonesia etc. They destroy the native cultures and even give the people 'Christian names' like Shalom or Xavier or Leo. It's truly disgusting.
I'm not saying the names are disgusting.
I'm saying the cultural genocide is disgusting.
Its cultural genocide. Simple as.
Evangelicals can also bring health clinics education etc…it’s not disgusting vice has its agenda….from a native…
@@ycaceres3357 🤣😅😅😅.
@@ycaceres3357 bring health clinics and education not as a selfless service but as tool to convert local indigenous people and turn then against one another. What a wonderful strategy preached by your Jesus.
@@ycaceres3357 Evangelicals themselves brings diseases to the natives then brings health clinics to the natives? That's a disgusting agenda. They created the problem then pretended to be their savior by bringing medicines to the problems they created.
This is downright evil.
I grew up going to Sunday school and hearing about missionaries and already was side eyeing them at a young age because I was a kid who questioned things. I was with my cousin in Mexico when I was in high school one time - she was practicing dances for her quinceanera and a van load of missionaries came to the yard. It was so weird to be on the other side of missionaries. I don't even remember what religion they were, some version of Christianity. My cousin was already Catholic so it didn't really matter. I was probably the only one that wasn't religious and I was also the only white person there aside from the missionaries. It was something that stuck with me and made me realize how ridiculous they are. This was over 20 years ago.
You’re not Mexican
@@Student0Toucher They didn't say they were. 🙄
It really is an eye opener when you see it from the other side. I left the church when the minister blamed me for my husband beating me. I went to another church for help, and he made passed at me. Men are hard enough to trust in the first place, but I certainly do not trust any man who is religious.
I wish I could comment freely here, but if I told the truth about the horrors of religions folks, I'd be kicked off. I can't even watch this it is such a trigger.
Anytime I see someone coming toward me that has a cross around their neck or on their ears, or tattooed to their arms, I walk the other way. They stopped coming to my door because I said things they didn't want to hear.
Religious people make my blood boil.
Thanks for your comment.
Why are they trying to convert people who are already Christian?
@@asurrealistworld4412 Because they weren't following the same version of christianity.
As a catholic, I have had groups of christians come up to me knowing I'm catholic and preach about how catholicism is "fake" due to "idol worship" of the cross/statues etc. For members who do join their megachurches, their entire social life and social circle is dominated by their church.
A certain megachurch in the city I'm in encourages youths to date within their church only, set singles up within their church, and have a pastor present for "couples counselling". It seems like a cult to me.
24 God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands. 25 Nor is He worshiped with men’s hands, as though He needed anything, since He gives to all life, breath, and all things. 26 And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings, 27 so that they should seek the Lord, in the hope that they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; 28 for in Him we live and move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said, ‘For we are also His offspring.’ 29 Therefore, since we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, something shaped by art and man’s devising. 30 Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent, 31 because He has appointed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness by the Man whom He has ordained. He has given assurance of this to all by raising Him from the dead.”
(Acts 17:24-31 NKJV)
God gave the 10 Commandments to show us his standard of Holiness and Good, and all of us have broken his law by doing the things that he hates such as Lying, Stealing, Murder, Adultery, Blaspheming God's name, Sexual immorality and many more.
23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God
(Romans 3:23)
God is Holy and Just and he will sure punish every sin that has ever been committed no matter how small, he is angry with the wicked everyday.
18 Let sinners be driven away into Hades, even all the nations that forget God.
(Psalms 9:18 LXX)
8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
(Revelations 21:8)
7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
(Jude 1:7)
But the Good news is the Gospel, and the Gospel is this, that God sent his only begotten son Jesus Christ into the world so that through him the world might be save from sin and from the Wrath of God, so put your trust in Jesus Christ and have faith in him, confess that he is Lord the Son of the living God, give your life to him.
16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
(John 3:16)
13 For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
(Romans 10:13)
12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”
(Acts 4:12)
19 Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord
(Acts 3:19)
I totally understand them providing aid to indigenous people but can we leave religion out of it. It’s highly manipulative that they only offer assistance if they can also teach them their ideology.
the part about them bring the medicines for the diseases they bought with them and only giving medicine it with the condition of being open to the belief system they want to preach just blew my mind. That is not aid, that is a hostage situation.
@@angel21991 not helping . It is taking advantage of people.
Even aid is not necessarily a good thing if you stop the balance they have with nature and make them want things they do not have eg introduction of tobacco to the inuit in Northern Canada etc.
In an ideal world but it's the same script used to colonize Africa brought disease and made you convert to get help.
@TheCutBeautii, that's the whole point why they are doing it that way! They are using aid as an excuse to force these indigenous tribes to listen to their bullshit! This is exactly what Catholics and Christian pastors used to do during Columbus riots, they used to withhold food from the indigenous people until they accept Christ as their lord and savior! People were starved to death until they convert to both religions! The only difference now is that they are using modern means to achieve the same goal!
This makes my blood boil, for so many complicated reasons. I am white passing Indigenous woman who's lens has been tainted by the constant play of passive racism, cultural disruption and segregation for political gain. My family lives the remnants of trauma, sustained over multiple generations, the fallout from Catholic boarding schools. Families and communities decimated by grief, children stolen, neglected and abused, under the pretense of sharing faith with a dose of righteous spiritual cleansing. Their gift was our cultural genocide.
HOW can we be in 2022/2023 and still be blind to the damage suffered by all Indigenous peoples?! Just as a Christian would not want to lose their faith and connection to THEIR god, please recognize that your perspective is not better, it is just different. If any person wishes to find Jesus, they know where to find you... your billboards, commercials, and hotel bibles make you easier to find than a truck stop hooker with a sharpie collection. Just stop. Stop pushing people to see your point of view. Be respectful of differences, of culture, of what remains of Indigenous society. It's time to stop the conquest, for the love of god.
@@ronniebattle1310 quit spamming bot
@@ronniebattle1310 all that is well and good but what these "evangelists" are doing is NOT RIGHT
Denyel Brechbill, Bravo! Excellent comment! Much love to you!
@@ronniebattle1310 Did you even UNDERSTAND what the comment said above? No sympathy. Nothing. You inky care about your faith and not the plight of the people.
I am sorry for what you and your ancestors have endured in the name of Christianity... Allow me to narrate some history. After Christ ascended to heaven, after his resurrection, the disciples started preaching the Gospel to other people. The disciples were Jewish. So as they preached to various communities, they erroneously started imposing their cultural laws and norms into the Gospel; demanding that everyone who wants to believe must also practice Jewish laws and customs. This was a grave mistake. The Gospel is enough. And Paul rebuked them strongly. The same keeps on happening throughout history as the Gospel is preached. Missionaries bring their own cultures, believing it to be more cultured, refined and superior to the people being reached. They bring their education, way of dress, food, language etc mixed in with the Gospel of salvation. This is a grave error. The Gospel is enough. "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned...." And this is the gospel - That God Almighty, the maker of heaven and earth sent His only begotten Son, Yeshuah the Messiah, that He came in the flesh from heaven, he lived among us, preaching about God's Kingdom for 33 years in Israel, ( at some point he lived in Africa, Egypt), He was eventually condemned and killed by crusifixion though He was blameless. However, God Almighty, through His power raised Yeshuah from the dead. This was witnessed by many people. He ascended up into heaven in the sight of many disciples and sits now at God's right hand.... Like l plead with all I speak to, don't allow man's errors to keep you away from your free gift of salvation which your loving Creator offers you. Christ came for YOU.
Same thing is happening in Peru sadly.
Missionary work is present-day colonialism and the more people understand that, the better.
Bring any diseases with you? 😒 (Leave those people alone!!!!)😡
saying he’s going to help the community and then insulting them and insinuating that they don’t know math by saying teaching them math goes against their culture. the lack of respect missionaries have for the areas they go to is appalling
I hope these groups get kicked out of the country. Anyone who thinks like that should never have been there to begin with.
I’m so proud of my indigenous roots, I’m going to live the rest of my life living my truth. Can’t wait to see the look on the faces of these hypocrites.
Whats makes you so proud of being indigenous?
@@karis2591 The same thing that makes white supremacist feel proud lack of accomplishments in life so, you have to cling to something.
@@karis2591 Why not?
@@karis2591Being indigenous with a rich culture is better than being a European with a wig and women's leggings
It's so rude and presumptuous to go to where someone else lives and tell them they pray to the wrong god.
Congratulations to those brave tribes for making their beliefs and lifestyle being respected against those who want to impose "their truth" at all costs.
I think most of these posts are from you using different accounts.
Protect them from viruses, not the free exchange of ideas!
you say our truth as if there's many truths? Does the law of gravity divert to various different truths as well? While you reject and condemn, you are loved and he will fight for you and he has died for you. He too was condemned by those who imposed their beliefs, and he too was condemned by those in religious authority. Yet he has loved you, even when you reject him. Saving millions in their time of sorrow.
Indigenous tribes without outside contact will die out from inbreeding, without contact from the outside, as well.
@@dimensionninja4929I ain't reading allat
As a Christian, Missionary work was one of the first things I got in trouble for arguing about at 14yrs old. I just knew it didn't sound right. You don't get to tell someone their faith is wrong because it's different than yours. They were fine before you got here.
I'm happy to break it to you. And I say this with no disrespect, but you were never a Christian. Jesus Christ himself, the pillar of Christianity, says to go out into all the world and preach the Gospel to all creation in Mark 16:15. You were part of some Christless, man-made organization of people who stole Christ's name for yourselves, and were devoid of any true religion, faith, or relation to God. Christianity isn't about you to begin with. It's about Christ. And if what you had was truly good, transformative, and real, you'd not knly obey Christs command to preach the Gospel to the lost, but you'd also desire that for them. Ig you are reading this today I implore you to go back and read the book of John and get to know the genuine Jesus Christ, of the genuine Gospel, that you may come to believe with genuine faith.
@@Miguelstradamus Well I'm glad you have an opinion. Jesus absolutely wanted Christians to spread the word. However, I'm sure he didn't say spread illness, make all "improvements"conditional to his worship, and to take from their lands. They come in his name and steal. Now I'm sure they're not true Christians either since none of the "extra" behaviors are very "christ-like" .
@@princesstriceestar yea but you made it about you can't tell people their faith is wrong. Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life, and nobody can come to the Father except through me". That's a very exclusive claim by Jesus who said share this truth and the whole of the Gospel to all creatures. All creatures include these people. So your thoughts as a 14yo and maybe even now are against Jesus own words. This is why I said you were not truly a Christian. It's not disrespect. It's just on the basis of what you said vs what Jesus said.
@@Miguelstradamus yes because you can SPREAD the word and still not FORCE people to change. The methods used are questionable. If I tell you the sky is blue, why it's blue, and walk away I've spread knowledge to you. I didn't attack your beliefs in any way.
@@Miguelstradamus It is God's power to convict and convert people, not you. If you think you have the power to convert people, you're so dead wrong.
What pisses me off the most is that we have seen this before and this is why have so many problems in the world now. To be clear, mind ya own damn business and not anyone elses. I read that a man went on a mission to the North Sentinel/Adaman islands and after being told that it was illegal to do so because the tribe there was very clear and adamant about not wanting outside contact, the missionary bribed a ship and crew to get to island. He was promptly slaughtered by the tribesman. And they left his body on the beach as a warning to others. The tribe is fully aware of the outside world and have decided for themselves that they want no part of it. The ship and crew got in serious trouble for their part. The missionary's parents understood and stated on record that they knew that they would not be able to retrieve their son's body. Overall, I view missionary work as an arrogant disrespect for other cultures and I cannot believe that in light of knowing all of the ills associated with colonization that we are still doing this 💩!
My roots are part indigenous, root teachings of human sacrifice ,I just have nothing to say. I think we all want to find the true creator.Its a long journey.
Well said John, and let us not forget how these people respect the earth, animals, plants, and everything that forms part of our environment. These tribes give a great testimony just in the humble way of life they have.
These people don't live in harmony with nature they die in harmony with nature mother nature wants to kill you.
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They don't. Imagine actually thinking that.
You're deluded 🤦🤦
@AG You’ve certainly changed my mind with your compelling argument. (BTW, I think you have a little drool there on your chin, and it might be time to change your diaper, should I call your nurse?)
I grew up Evangelical. Even as a young kid the whole "we'll build you a well, but first read this Bible" always bothered me. I hope the few remaining Indigenous groups still holding on to thier culture can push these Bible thumpers back.
Ultimately missionary work is a extremely selfish act, masquerading as altruistic
Exactly.
I think extreme religion basically encourages narcissism, self-righteousness. You can see it in that guy from Alabama, and he's comparing math to spreading religion? Math is something you can measure. We can't measure the truthfulness of his religion. Jesus is great, Evangelicals are not. Nope.
That's so odd to me. No one I knew doing missionary work ever conditioned helping people on the people doing something. In my experience, it's the exact opposite, whether you're helping people where you live or around the world. You can't throw a Bible at an alcoholic who's face-down in a ditch. You have to pick him up, give him dry clothes, warm food, a place to sleep; and when he asks why you'd help him, then you can tell him.
I'm sure there are selfish people who go on mission trips, but that doesn't mean it's a common motive. For example, I know a couple who were missionaries in an African country for 25 years. They both had malaria, one had dengue fever, they were carjacked multiple times, and they had to flee their house in the middle of the night at least three times when militants came over the wall with machetes. They could've gotten on a plane home anytime they wanted, but they loved their community. The husband "adopted" the children of widows to stop the boys from being taken and forced to become soldiers, and to stop the girls from being taken into domestic and sexual slavery for the fighters. (In the area, if a child didn't have a male guardian, they were fair game to be taken by local leaders. The husband who "adopted" them didn't take them away; he was a stand-in male guardian so that they wouldn't be taken from their mothers. He also helped provide for them.)
They retired to the States as they became in increasingly poor health as they got older. They live in a one-room house. They forewent having children of their own, and they have no retirement account. But they are visited on occasion by one of the children who was able to live the life they wanted and eventually travel to or live in the States because they weren't forced to fight or bear children after their fathers died.
@@QUINTUSMAXIMUS Humm, I would like to add that apologetics more than once fells like math, altought not the modern rigurus almost psycho math.
There's two types of evangelical missions. One, is a group which is there to actually help build houses and maybe evangelize through a sermon when the missionaries go to a church service in the villiage. More like summer camp
The other is just plain harassment and eurocenterism. The point is to show we care and help; such as, the Red Cross, the Cajun Navy, or Salvation Army. The point is not become abusive an eradicate a person's whole culture. Building a well for clean water is different compared to being hostile when the people themselves have said stop. If they want to evangelize on their own terms let them. It's like saying im going to convert Former Presidrnt Bush into a liberal democrat. Trust me He doesn't want too. But, you can work on things together to enbetter the country [all things being equal theoretically 🙄 don't come at me].
Losing faith in any particular religion does not mean lost faith in God. God comes first, not the other way around. Some religions forget this.
It should be about helping the people, Even if the indigenous people have a different belief... You do the right thing and try to help them anyway you can instead of judging them
The fact that these missionaries require these tribe members to watch videos about Jesus in exchange for clean water shows that the missionaries are not acting out of love for their fellow man, but out of their own self interest and to feed their savior complex. If they were truly there to serve because that’s the way of Christ, they would provide what the tribes need without any catch or quid pro quo.
I hate that they do that. Evangelizing is really leading by example and if someone doesn’t want to hear it after then you can’t force someone. You are sent into the word to help others with UNCONDITIONAL love and generosity.
FACTS.
@@Big0leBee FACTS.