@@davidcapistran2832 No I just kept using the EF 50mm because it still just works perfectly even though it’s been through everything. I tested the RF version and there is a difference in image quality sure but nothing drastic.
Struggling with T7i/SL3/T8i and this review was about as unbiased and objective as I have seen. Appreciate it. Love all the analogies :D I am a Toyota kind of guy.
As someone who bought their first DSLR in 2020 (a Pentax KP--same price as the T8i, and the kit lens is weather resistant, so not pointless!), I obviously think there's a place for fairly entry DSLRs. Basically, given phones, most folks don't need cameras to create images. What a camera offers is *process*. Manual control. Selection of lens (with a reach that phones can't match). But that's all true of Mirrorless as well. DSLR over Mirrorless offers the physicality of an optical viewfinder. If I just have a mirrorless camera, and I'm looking at a digital screen, that's fine for creating an image. But the DSLR offers light--pure light through the lens delivered to my eye. While reflected by mirrors and prisms, it's not converted into electrons and twisted about by microprocessors. If you're not going to enjoy the process, this probably isn't the right hobby for you. For me, looking through a real optical viewfinder just makes my eye happy.
The Rebel series is so much fun. I’ve since moved on to M4/3 for better dedicated crop lenses and video features, but I learnt so much shooting my SL1&2 and my friend’s 70D. These cameras always fly off shelves as a sweet spot of price for beginners and photography students, as well as those needing a second body.
"It's like comparing cars and deciding which one can get to the grocery store faster" - this had me rolling on the floor laughing! Too funny. Great analogy though, but still hilarious.
It reminds me of people on motorcycle forums arguing nonstop about what brand is the fastest when not a single one of them could ever possibly take any of the bikes to their limits.
Nice to see someone reviewing a stills camera as a still camera rather than complaining continuously about the video specs. My only issue with the rebel line is the lack of Autofocus Micro Adjustment. Could be a real pain if you buy something like a 50mm 1.8 STM or 85mm 1.8. I've never actually experienced an AF misadjustment but I know it's a real possiblilty when purchasing a new lens.
I'm still rocking my T3i and it's perfectly good for my amateur vacation pictures. I got a Tamron 18-400 lens that is amazing for it's versatility, a nice Canon macro lens, and a good Rokinon wide angle lens. I can take pretty much any beginner-level picture I want, but at some point, if I upgrade or need to replace my camera, I'm probably gonna stick with a Rebel :)
You have a very unbiased and analytical mindset. You would be good as a Manager at any company you might work for. Btw, your camera uploads are the best at explaining which camera offers which features.
June 2020 and just bought a 2nd hand 5Dii, like brand new only 7k clicks... 2nd hand prices are now fabulous ... great value for money (just over £400). I decided for something that has been heavily used by pro photographers over a prolonged time but still at a bargain price. This body is good enough for 95% of my needs, I used the 5Dii over a few weeks under various conditions such as low-light /sun /rain /indoors /outdoors etc and this 5Dii is still a VERY capable camera. Since I'm mainly a stills-image shooter who shot for around 25 years (pre-digital as well) and I have very little interest in video, so I'm looking forward to use it for many years to come and even use it for some paid jobs. I'm not shooting sports and don't need exceptional crazy frame rates. Auto focus is good enough if you use the center spot only and I also find RAW files up to ISO 3200 to be good enough to sell to wedding clients if you use good lenses (might need a SLIGHT noise reduction in Lightroom on a few occasions). Normally its only photographers who pixel-peep, clients are more focused on moments and emotions instead of technicality. Also, try to put some outside perspective into our consumer society where we are tricked into getting new gear/upgrades all the time. It was not that long ago Professionals used EOS-D1 for their corporate work and created fantastic images displayed on large billboards. The list-price for D1 on release was around 6500 Dollars even though the resolution was a meagre 4 MegaPixel only, but still photographers managed to generate fantastic photos on such small resolution. Some of the best + most historical images we seen are pre-digital, taken using a camera which literally was a box with a piece of glass in the front without any technology. Today people are buying cameras that are more powerful than the computer that took humanity to the moon in the 1960s... AND they cost as much as a second-hand car!!!! Even so, we often still see generic photos that could have been taken with any consumer camera.
That's the only real way to get into this hobby. But if everyone knows about this... Then there won't be any good cameras out there for the rest of us. 😄 Like I said for the 700$ or so needed to pick up an 850D. You could instead have a 5D Mark II, and a 70-200 L Series Lens. Non stabilized of course. Honestly with the death of the DLSR, and Phones that can shot RAW, at as many 100s of Megapixels. I'm not sure brands like Canon, or Nikon even have a future. Other then in their lenses that is.
Thank you! I have been an SLR user for over 30 years. DSLRs are still new to me and I want the D90 but from your review, I believe this Rebel will do just fine!
I have a t4i and it has been great. I have used it for both photography and video for all sorts of projects. The video is 1080p at 30fps. I still break it out for doing quick videos. They way I have it set up it produces a soft deep-color film look rather than harsh video. The result is kind of retro, which is very pleasing.
Thanks for your review. I got a T7 a few months ago to get started and I've been happy with it. You validated my decision in the 9-minute area. Thanks for the details too, I'm a numbers person and definitely appreciate your details.
Outside of all the camera talk, your tip on ordering wine at restaurants is a true gem. Thanks for that! Haha! And while I considered getting the T8i for a long time (upgrading from an SL2 - 24fps _does_ mean something to me), I instead put a few more dollars up and copped a used C100, which I am absolutely loving. Great video. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
you guys shouldn't be upgrading from 1 rebel to the next (unless your previous rebel broke) when you upgrade you should jump out of the rebel series and go to their intermediate or even pro level cameras based on your budget
I have had the T2i since 2010 I think...I just upgraded this year to a Fujifilm Xt4 lol. And the only reason I decided to upgrade was because I wanted more video options.
If you are interested to hear why I bought the 850D/t8i, it is pretty easy. I got into photography a year ago (and since half a year intensively). I first shot with a 4000D as an entry camera. I’m working up to more expensive cameras but as I’m not a professional the really good ones are too expensive. So what do you do? The 850D is a good stepping stone to find out what way I want to venture, do I like filming or rather take pictures, do I prefer sports photography or landscapes? Maybe I’ll go FF after this or a smaller upgrade after this. I’m pretty happy with this camera, when I upgrade I’ll sell the 850D for one that’d suit me better.
I have a t8i and bought it because the 90D was not out yet, and the t8i was pretty much just as good as the 80D for my purposes. I have the 18-55 lens because it came with the camera along with several other lenses. I really like the t8i because it allows me to get pretty good photos without spending an arm and a leg to get it. Anyway, I appreciate your review.
hi, i really want to know which has better image quality and settings options, 80d or new t8i? I'm struggling between this two and don't know which to choose :( Im wondering is there any difference between AF and other futures, are the same? Tnx
Thanks, I am upgrading from a T3i and being deciding for a while between the 90D and T8i. I've seen several reviews on both and this is the one that really help. Thanks
I have a T5i and I'm still very happy with it. I don't get the point of buying a camera every couple of years. Same for laptops, cell phones and many electronic devices. Most of the time, planned obsolescence is in our head...
You have a wonderful channel. A group of friends and I have all been planning on doing a short movie, and taking great photos, and your channel has been immensely informative and helpful when deciding what camera/lenses I should be going for!
I'm not a professional photographer but I use my camera to shoot product, lifestyle, portrait and video--I've been using a T3i since 2013 (it was old then) and finally have hit a point where I can upgrade. I really appreciate this non-judgmental review that makes it clear that while this isn't the most fantastic, professional level, fancy camera out there--it will totally work for what I need, and it has great features for someone who is working the way I do, and when I'm ready to upgrade again, I'll watch your reviews first! Thank you.
@@hannahbelleknits That's awesome! Do you have a website page where I can see your work? I just bought a T8i today as well, I'm not a professional photographer but love to take pictures.
@@egorxeke3465 yes! You can check me out on IG as @hannahbelleknits and I also have a video on my channel, and my website is www.hannahthiessen.com - I have also done some video work for Knomad yarns and I think you’d find that on their site or IG feed.
That was my first DSLR I gave it to my daughter. I use the 90D now and a 5D mark III. I actually love the 18-55mm kit lens that came with my T3i. I still use it on my 90D from time to time.
If you are strapped for cash and also happen to be a Canon fanboy do yourselves a favor and get the SL2 or 200d. It's much generously priced rn and doesn't scam you for a half ass 4k system. Got money to burn get the 90D. With my budget I got the SL3 and believe me the AF in 4K is pretty garbage(CDAF). M50 is a good option too if you are into that.
I just bought a T8i upgrading from my old T6i (my 1st Rebel was the XTi) I have been shooting tethered with my T6i since 2017 and I had to ditch the cord and go wireless. I mainly shoot product photography and have a dedicated area w/continuous lighting and many backdrops. And I always order the best wine because I don't like "swill". Thanks for the video!
I'm between the T8i and the 90D my only issue with T8i is like you said it won't focus on a face when recording. I hate how they can't put everything on one. This video was helpful.
Really appreciate the straightforward review, and how you made a point of talking about what most people will actually buy! I'm trying to decide between the T8i and the 90D at the moment...
We use our T3i and the 77D for the simple facts that these Canon's get the job done. 1.Reliability 2.Quality 3.Dependability 4.Cost of investment We started with the Canon 400D ( Kiss ) 10.1mp GREAT PHOTOGRAPHY CAMERA! then went to the T1i Then T2i. Canon will never let you down.
I’ve worked with everything from old Nikon f3’s, canon 1D’s even old Leica rangefinders. You know what I have in my bag now? (Besides some very good glass) a t2i and a t7i. They work well and get the job done. Are they amazing? Nope. But 250 at 5.6 is the same on any camera. Point the thing at something you find interesting and don’t worry about what the camera is.
I’m not a Canon guy, but your video title got my attention. Your a great informational tech guru, and you have peeked my interest on these Canon cameras. Love your comparison of camera quality to how fast you can get to the store, and these models being kind of like buying a Honda, rather than a Tesla. Great video!
I started on a T2i because my favorite animator Kirsten Lepore used it, then I went to T6i, I will still buy this just because it’s so important to me as a tool of creative growth, even though I have Sony A7RIII
Good for you in reviewing this type of camera because you are quite right, whatever the brand, the 'noise' is always about what are "Halo" products that very few people will actually buy or frankly need. The two DSLRs I use most are my 7D MkII and 5DS both of which are now 6 year old designs but I'm not a professional photographer and can get all I need from them and as I have the matching EF glass really don't feel tempted currently. Keep up the good work, like your output.
I have the t7 and I must say my biggest complaint is the work I have to put in to simply change my ISO and the fact that the scrolly thingy only works for the aperture and shutter speed. I wish the controls were a little bit easier. Great vid❤️
Put ISO on auto Then go into your menu setting and set max ISO to 1600 so it does not go pass that level unless you want it to. Try that little trick I think it will serve you well.
@@Wizardbawlz Well I'm sure the 850 is both smaller, and lighter, and at least straight forward enough without having to ask which sensor size version of the 1D Op has. APS-H or Full 35? Ac much as I want to point, and laugh and say APS-C... I think that only happened on the 7D series. Which I never understood. While the x0D series did a fine enough job covering that corner.
Good title! 800D + cheap lenses, no brainer, everyday camera. And kit lenses are good, even if I prefer EF lenses, though efs 24 2.8 is one of the best.
Look at the 250D (SL3). It has cropped 4K but if you want to shave of the price a bit, thats a solid choice to go for if 4K is a must have. I have the one down, the 200D, and its a really solid but still really small camera and the footage out of it is great for its price range.
@@jeepjoseph9036 yeah I know it is but given that this was commented on a video about a budget oriented camera, I figured OP was trying to find a budget 4K camera so I recommended the 250D. The 90D is the dream APSC camera but it will also run you a fair bit more than the rebel lineup.
If you only have $1,000 to spend on a camera-lens kit, go get a Sony a7 II with the 28-70mm f3.5-5.6. Better yet, get a gently used one, skip the kit lens, and get an affordable prime lens. It's has a full-frame sensor, weather sealing, a more advanced autofocus system through the viewfinder, in-body image stabilization, a headphone jack, and the option to add an XLR adapter for more advanced audio. Sure, it only has 1080p video and no 4K, but if you are just starting out, you might not be able to tell the difference anyway. If you really need that 4K video, other great new options in this price range include the Panasonic G95 (or even the G85 that I own for $300 less), Olympus OM-D E-M5 Mark III, and Nikon Z50.
i asked for a rebel t6i in 2018 lol. still working really nicely to this day though. although sometimes i wish i had asked for a t5i because magic lantern basically turns it into a cinema camera as far as im concerned
The Rebel line is a steal. You can get most of them super cheap used. You want to put your money into quality glass anyways, not a camera body. Put quality lenses on them and they are awesome.
I own a T7i and it is great. I just wish I had held off on buying it with the expensive $450 dollar upgraded kit lens. Would have bought a Sig17-55 a and a Nifty for fun. However, the 18-135 is all I have so I have made the best of it. I have noticed that the more I use it and practice the better my images turn out. Love the cam.
In the Netherlands it is definitely better to get the lens kit (18mm - 55mm). Canon 850D body cost ~ 919,00 euro Canon 850D + lens kit ~ 1019,00 euro. If you buy it directly from the Canon store, you even get: - 32GB SD card - Extra spare battery - BP110-backpack
I still love my 80D ... its advantage over the others is the 1/8000th of a second shutter speed which comes in mighty handy shooting bright sunny days while using HS sync and really wide apertures
For me, I think that the T8i gives me 90% of what I'd want with the 90D at a 35% discount. On the other hand, I've never had a full frame camera and that his very highly appealing. But the autofocus system and the new processors definitely set it ahead of the other canon cameras in its price range.
@@Aj-me8mo Yeah, you can take a lot of "professional quality" photographs on a wide range of DSLRs, you just need decent lighting, and glass*. *That doesn't mean spending a bajillion dollars on L lenses. Stuff like the 50mm 1.8 STM or other primes offer great image quality for like 60-100 bucks used. Get one of those, throw in a half decent super zoom and you're set.
Cheaper, low end cameras have one aspect that noone seems to talk about in this type of videos. Just as in the film era, the photographic industry has gone to such a state nowadays that every company sells you roughly the same machine at the price point you are targeting. So, if we ignore some specialized needs, the lenses become the main differentiator between brands. So, now we have so many great cheap older cameras that can serve as "digital backs" for lenses. You could get 2 or perhaps even 3, if you want, cheap consumer cameras second hand instead of one high end all-rounder new, and associate every body to its own lens or just a few lenses. You can compensate for many ergonomic issues of consumer bodies by restricting settings you change to 1 to 3 key items. This is quite feasible under the "digital back" setup. This strategy allows you pick the most desirable lenses (the criteria are up to you) even from different brands and/or across sensor sizes - but watch over for the cognitive dissonance going between brands (that one depends on you).
Ergonomics is the biggest reason I am not going mirrorless yet. I like a good grip that I can hang on to, and most mirrorless ones are just way small. if they were to make a mirrorless that basically was the same size and shape as a DSLR, I'd jump. Hell, use the extra space for a bigger battery.
I honestly was hoping they would start an official mirrorless RF mount Rebel series. Something simular to the EOS RP. But slightly smaller body and still resemble the Ti series. They could include the EF adapter as a bonus and still ship models with the 18-55 Kit lens. Or they could design a simular cheap RF Kit Lens for it. It would help push the new EOS R line of mirrorless cameras and help push sales of the RF mount. A great example is my friend who had a T6 and she went and bought the L glass 2000.00 doller 75-200mm lens for it. Her photos looked fantastic despite the cheap camera body. I sold her my 80D in January and then bought myself the 90D this year.
I've been shooting with a T6i for the last 5 years and it is a great camera. I echo what was said about the kit lens: do not get it! I cannot stress that enough. Paired with a proper lens, my T6i takes incredible shots, and my photography has drastically improved only after ditching that stinkin' kit lens!
I use a 50mm prime on my T6i and put the kit lens away as i've never used it (barring the day i bought the camera). May look at a 24mm pancake as a second lens for wider shots but apart from that my trusty 50mm does the job just fine.
I appreciated the photos my 18-55mm kit lens could take but the difference in image quality was night and day once I upgraded to the 18-135mm nano usm.
I really like your videos! This camera (as every Canon DSLR with Dual Pixel AF) is a beast on budget. I am using an 800D (T7i) and I love it! But I disagree with your opinion about the kit lens in the beginning of the video. It a common misconception that kit lenses are bad. Are not! Especially Canon kit lenses are maybe the best in the industry and the latest 18-55 f/4-5.6 IS STM is brilliant for genres like landscape or street photography where sharpness and deep DoF are preferable over light gathering or bokeh. I have done some of my best work on that lens and no one (photographer or not) was able to guess the lens… they all thought it was L series or Sigma Art! Sure, there are way better and pricier lenses but for the target group of that camera everything better would be overkill. It’s better to spent that extra 150$ for the kit lens instead of spending another 500 or 600$ for a lens that will be too much. And if you have to spent that extra money, do it on learning process or for getting in a nice place to shoot…
The T4i was my first DSLR. Shot some nice pics and lots of great video with it. I didn't even know there was a t8i. The m50 is a much better value, but I can understand that it may be somewhat hard to hold for some.
I have the T7i. I love it. Looks like the T8i is about the same with, I assume, the new processor so probably just as good or a little better. And nothing I know of tops the duel pixel auto focus!
Honestly.. this is the best review I've seen for the entry-level Canon DSLRs in 2020. I've looked at every spec and compared everything available to the T7 I currently have. I want an upgrade (as well as a 2nd body so my wife and I can shoot together and share gear), but don't feel there's enough value in the 90D to warrant the price. Thank you! Subscribing!!
I disagree with the 18-55mm. That’s the first lens I’ve ever used and it still remains one of the sharpest lens for my APSC cameras. It is not EF or L but it gets the job done for a good price. I wouldn’t buy a non L lens for the telephoto range but these standard zooms are pretty decent
Been using the SL2/200D for a couple years now and it's excellent. You can get over the limitations and the smaller design is a good thing for me. I'm from Europe, so 25 to 24 fps isn't a HUGE difference, but I'm a stills kind of guy. The OVF's 9 point AF is a bit limiting but you can use liveview or focus and recompose, I guess.
Ive been shooting with 600d since 2010, when I got the GH4 I still use the 600D to date. 1080 is not created equally but heck, youtube can only accept 8mbps for 1080p
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Well the jole is you could pick up all three versions of the efs18-55 ever made for about a 150$
.....same 18-55 that came with the others,like the 5,6,7,as part of the whole kit???
I started off with the 650D, and I absolutely loved it. Paired it up with a 50mm 1.8 and that's what I learned on. Used it for years and I loved it.
Was there a difference between the EF & RF 50mm 1.8 lense ? Which one did u get ?
@@davidcapistran2832 No I just kept using the EF 50mm because it still just works perfectly even though it’s been through everything. I tested the RF version and there is a difference in image quality sure but nothing drastic.
I started with the same camera :) finally thinking to move to r6 mk2
These cameras sell because they get the job done.
I love my T8i. I have a Sigma 70-200 f2.8 and a Sigma 150-600mm Contemporary lens and they work great with it.
Struggling with T7i/SL3/T8i and this review was about as unbiased and objective as I have seen. Appreciate it. Love all the analogies :D I am a Toyota kind of guy.
I'm in a similar boat lol.
May I ask what you decided on, and why?
Me too
As someone who bought their first DSLR in 2020 (a Pentax KP--same price as the T8i, and the kit lens is weather resistant, so not pointless!), I obviously think there's a place for fairly entry DSLRs. Basically, given phones, most folks don't need cameras to create images. What a camera offers is *process*. Manual control. Selection of lens (with a reach that phones can't match). But that's all true of Mirrorless as well.
DSLR over Mirrorless offers the physicality of an optical viewfinder. If I just have a mirrorless camera, and I'm looking at a digital screen, that's fine for creating an image. But the DSLR offers light--pure light through the lens delivered to my eye. While reflected by mirrors and prisms, it's not converted into electrons and twisted about by microprocessors.
If you're not going to enjoy the process, this probably isn't the right hobby for you. For me, looking through a real optical viewfinder just makes my eye happy.
The Rebel series is so much fun. I’ve since moved on to M4/3 for better dedicated crop lenses and video features, but I learnt so much shooting my SL1&2 and my friend’s 70D. These cameras always fly off shelves as a sweet spot of price for beginners and photography students, as well as those needing a second body.
"It's like comparing cars and deciding which one can get to the grocery store faster" - this had me rolling on the floor laughing! Too funny. Great analogy though, but still hilarious.
Yeah that was pretty funny ... got the point across well too. 😂
It reminds me of people on motorcycle forums arguing nonstop about what brand is the fastest when not a single one of them could ever possibly take any of the bikes to their limits.
Nice to see someone reviewing a stills camera as a still camera rather than complaining continuously about the video specs. My only issue with the rebel line is the lack of Autofocus Micro Adjustment. Could be a real pain if you buy something like a 50mm 1.8 STM or 85mm 1.8. I've never actually experienced an AF misadjustment but I know it's a real possiblilty when purchasing a new lens.
I'm still rocking my T3i and it's perfectly good for my amateur vacation pictures. I got a Tamron 18-400 lens that is amazing for it's versatility, a nice Canon macro lens, and a good Rokinon wide angle lens. I can take pretty much any beginner-level picture I want, but at some point, if I upgrade or need to replace my camera, I'm probably gonna stick with a Rebel :)
My T5i is still my back up photography camera. The Rebel series is reliable as hell
same here
Intending on getting this for a range of uses ie; studio,scenery and at sporting events...is it a good workhorse?
Sold my t5i back in 2017, i regret selling soo much
@@justus4331 sorry to hear that.
What kind of Camera do you have now?
@@egorxeke3465 my husband got the t8i 5 months ago for my birthday. So far so good! I love how it’s not too big and it is lighter compared to the t5i
You have a very unbiased and analytical mindset.
You would be good as a Manager at any company you might work for.
Btw, your camera uploads are the best at explaining which camera offers which features.
Unbiased I agree👆🏽
Love the analogies, the overview clarity, the honest assessment of this camera and the market in generally. Superb. Thanks !
June 2020 and just bought a 2nd hand 5Dii, like brand new only 7k clicks... 2nd hand prices are now fabulous ... great value for money (just over £400).
I decided for something that has been heavily used by pro photographers over a prolonged time but still at a bargain price. This body is good enough for 95% of my needs, I used the 5Dii over a few weeks under various conditions such as low-light /sun /rain /indoors /outdoors etc and this 5Dii is still a VERY capable camera.
Since I'm mainly a stills-image shooter who shot for around 25 years (pre-digital as well) and I have very little interest in video, so I'm looking forward to use it for many years to come and even use it for some paid jobs.
I'm not shooting sports and don't need exceptional crazy frame rates. Auto focus is good enough if you use the center spot only and I also find RAW files up to ISO 3200 to be good enough to sell to wedding clients if you use good lenses (might need a SLIGHT noise reduction in Lightroom on a few occasions). Normally its only photographers who pixel-peep, clients are more focused on moments and emotions instead of technicality.
Also, try to put some outside perspective into our consumer society where we are tricked into getting new gear/upgrades all the time. It was not that long ago Professionals used EOS-D1 for their corporate work and created fantastic images displayed on large billboards. The list-price for D1 on release was around 6500 Dollars even though the resolution was a meagre 4 MegaPixel only, but still photographers managed to generate fantastic photos on such small resolution.
Some of the best + most historical images we seen are pre-digital, taken using a camera which literally was a box with a piece of glass in the front without any technology.
Today people are buying cameras that are more powerful than the computer that took humanity to the moon in the 1960s... AND they cost as much as a second-hand car!!!!
Even so, we often still see generic photos that could have been taken with any consumer camera.
That's the only real way to get into this hobby. But if everyone knows about this... Then there won't be any good cameras out there for the rest of us. 😄
Like I said for the 700$ or so needed to pick up an 850D. You could instead have a 5D Mark II, and a 70-200 L Series Lens. Non stabilized of course.
Honestly with the death of the DLSR, and Phones that can shot RAW, at as many 100s of Megapixels. I'm not sure brands like Canon, or Nikon even have a future. Other then in their lenses that is.
Thank you! I have been an SLR user for over 30 years. DSLRs are still new to me and I want the D90 but from your review, I believe this Rebel will do just fine!
I have a t4i and it has been great. I have used it for both photography and video for all sorts of projects. The video is 1080p at 30fps. I still break it out for doing quick videos. They way I have it set up it produces a soft deep-color film look rather than harsh video. The result is kind of retro, which is very pleasing.
whats your settings?
This camera is a workhorse. I did so much with the t7i. Def under-rated. Top recommendation for beginners and intermediate shooters
Thanks for your review. I got a T7 a few months ago to get started and I've been happy with it. You validated my decision in the 9-minute area. Thanks for the details too, I'm a numbers person and definitely appreciate your details.
Outside of all the camera talk, your tip on ordering wine at restaurants is a true gem. Thanks for that! Haha! And while I considered getting the T8i for a long time (upgrading from an SL2 - 24fps _does_ mean something to me), I instead put a few more dollars up and copped a used C100, which I am absolutely loving. Great video. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
For where I'm from, the Canon 80D is way cheaper than Canon 850D (T8i).
I'm still sticking to Canon T7i as my 1st camera!
Have my t7i, absolutely more than enough! Will keep it for 2-3 years
@@kavinsuresh5468 You can probably keep it and use it well even 6-7 years from now.
you guys shouldn't be upgrading from 1 rebel to the next (unless your previous rebel broke) when you upgrade you should jump out of the rebel series and go to their intermediate or even pro level cameras based on your budget
@@theotakuGamer7640 depends on the camera and the glass. The t6s replaced the 77d
Honestly go Sony alpha. I'm sorry but canon is a joke until you get to the 1dx
I have had the T2i since 2010 I think...I just upgraded this year to a Fujifilm Xt4 lol.
And the only reason I decided to upgrade was because I wanted more video options.
I feel you! I've had the t2i until I snapped the flash off while filming...don't ask how LOL but I went with the ZcamE2
Honestly, love my t2i😂. It’s still my only camera, and I’ve been a full time photographer since 2015😂😂
@@MoncriefsThat's awesome. Just bought a T8i today, what photoshop editing do you recommend?
I have a Rebel T6 (not T6i) as my first and only dslr I own, looks like this is perfect for me esp when taking this on a hike.
If you are interested to hear why I bought the 850D/t8i, it is pretty easy. I got into photography a year ago (and since half a year intensively). I first shot with a 4000D as an entry camera. I’m working up to more expensive cameras but as I’m not a professional the really good ones are too expensive. So what do you do? The 850D is a good stepping stone to find out what way I want to venture, do I like filming or rather take pictures, do I prefer sports photography or landscapes? Maybe I’ll go FF after this or a smaller upgrade after this. I’m pretty happy with this camera, when I upgrade I’ll sell the 850D for one that’d suit me better.
I would switch to a Sony a7r. Much better camera than most canons and its only 650 bucks
I like your straight forward common sense way of reviewing cameras.
I have a t8i and bought it because the 90D was not out yet, and the t8i was pretty much just as good as the 80D for my purposes. I have the 18-55 lens because it came with the camera along with several other lenses. I really like the t8i because it allows me to get pretty good photos without spending an arm and a leg to get it. Anyway, I appreciate your review.
hi, i really want to know which has better image quality and settings options, 80d or new t8i? I'm struggling between this two and don't know which to choose :( Im wondering is there any difference between AF and other futures, are the same? Tnx
Thanks, I am upgrading from a T3i and being deciding for a while between the 90D and T8i.
I've seen several reviews on both and this is the one that really help.
Thanks
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As a Rebel T7i user I appreciate your time to make this review
I’m still rockin’ the T1i...damn.
Me too, works fine
t3i pal here
I just upgraded from my t6i to a 90d I don't regret it
90d is my first camera, switched from a smartphone, and I'm so happy with the camera!
@@CyberPunkSimms what kind of smartphone?
@@egorxeke3465 I used a OnePlus 7 Pro (with Pro Mode) wasn't the best, wasn't the worst :)
@@CyberPunkSimms Nice
@@egorxeke3465 yeah, it was an alright phone
I have a T5i and I'm still very happy with it. I don't get the point of buying a camera every couple of years. Same for laptops, cell phones and many electronic devices. Most of the time, planned obsolescence is in our head...
You have a wonderful channel. A group of friends and I have all been planning on doing a short movie, and taking great photos, and your channel has been immensely informative and helpful when deciding what camera/lenses I should be going for!
I'm not a professional photographer but I use my camera to shoot product, lifestyle, portrait and video--I've been using a T3i since 2013 (it was old then) and finally have hit a point where I can upgrade. I really appreciate this non-judgmental review that makes it clear that while this isn't the most fantastic, professional level, fancy camera out there--it will totally work for what I need, and it has great features for someone who is working the way I do, and when I'm ready to upgrade again, I'll watch your reviews first! Thank you.
That's good to hear! Have you upgraded yet?
@@egorxeke3465 yes I bought the t8i and it is perfect for the work I do!
@@hannahbelleknits That's awesome! Do you have a website page where I can see your work? I just bought a T8i today as well, I'm not a professional photographer but love to take pictures.
@@egorxeke3465 yes! You can check me out on IG as @hannahbelleknits and I also have a video on my channel, and my website is www.hannahthiessen.com - I have also done some video work for Knomad yarns and I think you’d find that on their site or IG feed.
@@hannahbelleknits Awesome I will be checking out your work! I bet you are really good at it.
thank you for the comparison to other objects "cars, wine" I was able to make the connections so much easier than other videos out there
T3i here :)
Samesies
That was my first DSLR I gave it to my daughter. I use the 90D now and a 5D mark III. I actually love the 18-55mm kit lens that came with my T3i. I still use it on my 90D from time to time.
Schardt Cinematic Productions full frame! Nice!
My first cam
T2i enters the chat..
Right now I have. T2i, T7i and M6MK2. The T7i was the first in the T series with decent autofocus. Im keeping the T2i because of Magic Lantern.
T7i here and I love it still
I have the 800d/t7i which is most often paired with a sigma 30mm f1.4. images are great.
I have T2i, works just great. I bought canon m10 for 150$ for portability.
Still use my 550D and have fun with it 😃
I can't find any difference between that camera and Rebel T5.
If you are strapped for cash and also happen to be a Canon fanboy do yourselves a favor and get the SL2 or 200d. It's much generously priced rn and doesn't scam you for a half ass 4k system. Got money to burn get the 90D. With my budget I got the SL3 and believe me the AF in 4K is pretty garbage(CDAF). M50 is a good option too if you are into that.
T5I owner here. Still very happy with mine.
Just sold my T6 to get the T5i, and so glad I did.
I just bought a T8i upgrading from my old T6i (my 1st Rebel was the XTi) I have been shooting tethered with my T6i since 2017 and I had to ditch the cord and go wireless. I mainly shoot product photography and have a dedicated area w/continuous lighting and many backdrops. And I always order the best wine because I don't like "swill". Thanks for the video!
I'm between the T8i and the 90D my only issue with T8i is like you said it won't focus on a face when recording. I hate how they can't put everything on one. This video was helpful.
They did that for the same reason Nikon took away features from the d7500: it won't compete with the higher end cameras like the d500
Really appreciate the straightforward review, and how you made a point of talking about what most people will actually buy!
I'm trying to decide between the T8i and the 90D at the moment...
What did you decide on? I am torn as well..
I'm a beginner, and I found your video very easy to understand, with useful information. Thank you
I still have a 400D, and with a good lens the pics are great.
We use our T3i and the 77D for the simple facts that these Canon's get the job done.
1.Reliability
2.Quality
3.Dependability
4.Cost of investment
We started with the Canon 400D ( Kiss ) 10.1mp GREAT PHOTOGRAPHY CAMERA!
then went to the T1i
Then T2i.
Canon will never let you down.
I’ve worked with everything from old Nikon f3’s, canon 1D’s even old Leica rangefinders. You know what I have in my bag now? (Besides some very good glass) a t2i and a t7i. They work well and get the job done. Are they amazing? Nope. But 250 at 5.6 is the same on any camera. Point the thing at something you find interesting and don’t worry about what the camera is.
I’m not a Canon guy, but your video title got my attention. Your a great informational tech guru, and you have peeked my interest on these Canon cameras. Love your comparison of camera quality to how fast you can get to the store, and these models being kind of like buying a Honda, rather than a Tesla. Great video!
I started on a T2i because my favorite animator Kirsten Lepore used it, then I went to T6i, I will still buy this just because it’s so important to me as a tool of creative growth, even though I have Sony A7RIII
I have the canon EOS M50 and I love it I wouldn't upgrade or downgrade to anything else
Good for you in reviewing this type of camera because you are quite right, whatever the brand, the 'noise' is always about what are "Halo" products that very few people will actually buy or frankly need. The two DSLRs I use most are my 7D MkII and 5DS both of which are now 6 year old designs but I'm not a professional photographer and can get all I need from them and as I have the matching EF glass really don't feel tempted currently. Keep up the good work, like your output.
LOL I like the warning in the beginning.. 😄Always on point with these cameras!
I have the t7 and I must say my biggest complaint is the work I have to put in to simply change my ISO and the fact that the scrolly thingy only works for the aperture and shutter speed. I wish the controls were a little bit easier. Great vid❤️
yeah, i think the cheapest canon DSLR camera with lot of controls right now is the eos 77d.
Put ISO on auto Then go into your menu setting and set max ISO to 1600 so it does not go pass that level unless you want it to. Try that little trick I think it will serve you well.
This camera is amazing. My girlfriend bought it and I’m envious, even though I have the 1dxii
well this is a silly comment
@@Wizardbawlz Well I'm sure the 850 is both smaller, and lighter, and at least straight forward enough without having to ask which sensor size version of the 1D Op has. APS-H or Full 35? Ac much as I want to point, and laugh and say APS-C... I think that only happened on the 7D series. Which I never understood. While the x0D series did a fine enough job covering that corner.
I still have my t2i. Works great.
Good title!
800D + cheap lenses, no brainer, everyday camera.
And kit lenses are good, even if I prefer EF lenses, though efs 24 2.8 is one of the best.
The T5i (700D) is so popular, and yes I have one, that you can still get a brand new full function battery grip (Neewer) for it.
I would be pretty tempted to get that camera if it had 30fps 4K. I'll definitely be looking into the 90D now, though.
Look at the 250D (SL3). It has cropped 4K but if you want to shave of the price a bit, thats a solid choice to go for if 4K is a must have. I have the one down, the 200D, and its a really solid but still really small camera and the footage out of it is great for its price range.
@@CasuallyTrash why would you recommend that from a 90d. A 90d is a much better camera, its not even a comparison
@@jeepjoseph9036 yeah I know it is but given that this was commented on a video about a budget oriented camera, I figured OP was trying to find a budget 4K camera so I recommended the 250D. The 90D is the dream APSC camera but it will also run you a fair bit more than the rebel lineup.
Haha that warning notification on the kit lens tho
If you only have $1,000 to spend on a camera-lens kit, go get a Sony a7 II with the 28-70mm f3.5-5.6. Better yet, get a gently used one, skip the kit lens, and get an affordable prime lens.
It's has a full-frame sensor, weather sealing, a more advanced autofocus system through the viewfinder, in-body image stabilization, a headphone jack, and the option to add an XLR adapter for more advanced audio. Sure, it only has 1080p video and no 4K, but if you are just starting out, you might not be able to tell the difference anyway.
If you really need that 4K video, other great new options in this price range include the Panasonic G95 (or even the G85 that I own for $300 less), Olympus OM-D E-M5 Mark III, and Nikon Z50.
still using the SL2, even though I've only had it for about a year and 9 months, it's been very reliable
It is just like choosing a car for food shopping, just pick the one you like more and want to actually drive
I love that warning against buying that kit lens hahaha
mrksetn same!
i asked for a rebel t6i in 2018 lol. still working really nicely to this day though. although sometimes i wish i had asked for a t5i because magic lantern basically turns it into a cinema camera as far as im concerned
The Rebel line is a steal. You can get most of them super cheap used. You want to put your money into quality glass anyways, not a camera body. Put quality lenses on them and they are awesome.
I love your reviews! You're helping lots of newbies like me..thanks.
I own a T7i and it is great. I just wish I had held off on buying it with the expensive $450 dollar upgraded kit lens. Would have bought a Sig17-55 a and a Nifty for fun. However, the 18-135 is all I have so I have made the best of it. I have noticed that the more I use it and practice the better my images turn out. Love the cam.
In the Netherlands it is definitely better to get the lens kit (18mm - 55mm).
Canon 850D body cost ~ 919,00 euro
Canon 850D + lens kit ~ 1019,00 euro.
If you buy it directly from the Canon store, you even get:
- 32GB SD card
- Extra spare battery
- BP110-backpack
Beter om hem helemaal niet te kopen
@@user-dh5fp4gw1b Hoezo als ik mag vragen? En wat zou je anders aanraden?
Canon m50 here😎 and corolla owner 😂🤣🤣
I still love my 80D ... its advantage over the others is the 1/8000th of a second shutter speed which comes in mighty handy shooting bright sunny days while using HS sync and really wide apertures
For me, I think that the T8i gives me 90% of what I'd want with the 90D at a 35% discount. On the other hand, I've never had a full frame camera and that his very highly appealing. But the autofocus system and the new processors definitely set it ahead of the other canon cameras in its price range.
Can you get professional quality pictures with the t8i? I’m interested in buying it
@@Aj-me8mo Yeah, you can take a lot of "professional quality" photographs on a wide range of DSLRs, you just need decent lighting, and glass*.
*That doesn't mean spending a bajillion dollars on L lenses. Stuff like the 50mm 1.8 STM or other primes offer great image quality for like 60-100 bucks used. Get one of those, throw in a half decent super zoom and you're set.
@@thenotsookayguy Thanks dude! I appreciate it, I almost made the mistake of buying an expensive DSLR just to get some good quality pics
@@Aj-me8mo NO
Cheaper, low end cameras have one aspect that noone seems to talk about in this type of videos. Just as in the film era, the photographic industry has gone to such a state nowadays that every company sells you roughly the same machine at the price point you are targeting. So, if we ignore some specialized needs, the lenses become the main differentiator between brands. So, now we have so many great cheap older cameras that can serve as "digital backs" for lenses.
You could get 2 or perhaps even 3, if you want, cheap consumer cameras second hand instead of one high end all-rounder new, and associate every body to its own lens or just a few lenses. You can compensate for many ergonomic issues of consumer bodies by restricting settings you change to 1 to 3 key items. This is quite feasible under the "digital back" setup. This strategy allows you pick the most desirable lenses (the criteria are up to you) even from different brands and/or across sensor sizes - but watch over for the cognitive dissonance going between brands (that one depends on you).
Dang... now you got me thinking about the 90D... decisions, decisions... thank you my man!
Watched this and somehow I started a walk down memory lane... back in the day of 1000D
Don't know about that one, but I have to say the 1100D is still a hellova good camera. Though I prefer to use the 40D at this time.
Ergonomics is the biggest reason I am not going mirrorless yet. I like a good grip that I can hang on to, and most mirrorless ones are just way small. if they were to make a mirrorless that basically was the same size and shape as a DSLR, I'd jump. Hell, use the extra space for a bigger battery.
2:00 if were comparing cameras to cars here, I often compare my a6000 to a V6 Camaro.
Must have been one of those Dohhh I could've had a V8 moments.
I honestly was hoping they would start an official mirrorless RF mount Rebel series. Something simular to the EOS RP. But slightly smaller body and still resemble the Ti series.
They could include the EF adapter as a bonus and still ship models with the 18-55 Kit lens. Or they could design a simular cheap RF Kit Lens for it. It would help push the new EOS R line of mirrorless cameras and help push sales of the RF mount. A great example is my friend who had a T6 and she went and bought the L glass 2000.00 doller 75-200mm lens for it. Her photos looked fantastic despite the cheap camera body. I sold her my 80D in January and then bought myself the 90D this year.
I've been shooting with a T6i for the last 5 years and it is a great camera. I echo what was said about the kit lens: do not get it! I cannot stress that enough. Paired with a proper lens, my T6i takes incredible shots, and my photography has drastically improved only after ditching that stinkin' kit lens!
I use a 50mm prime on my T6i and put the kit lens away as i've never used it (barring the day i bought the camera). May look at a 24mm pancake as a second lens for wider shots but apart from that my trusty 50mm does the job just fine.
I appreciated the photos my 18-55mm kit lens could take but the difference in image quality was night and day once I upgraded to the 18-135mm nano usm.
Great Video! At a $749.00 price new, frame only...Do you still think the T8i is a relevant camera in today's market?
I really like your videos! This camera (as every Canon DSLR with Dual Pixel AF) is a beast on budget. I am using an 800D (T7i) and I love it! But I disagree with your opinion about the kit lens in the beginning of the video. It a common misconception that kit lenses are bad. Are not! Especially Canon kit lenses are maybe the best in the industry and the latest 18-55 f/4-5.6 IS STM is brilliant for genres like landscape or street photography where sharpness and deep DoF are preferable over light gathering or bokeh. I have done some of my best work on that lens and no one (photographer or not) was able to guess the lens… they all thought it was L series or Sigma Art! Sure, there are way better and pricier lenses but for the target group of that camera everything better would be overkill. It’s better to spent that extra 150$ for the kit lens instead of spending another 500 or 600$ for a lens that will be too much. And if you have to spent that extra money, do it on learning process or for getting in a nice place to shoot…
💯about the kit lens.
Really trying to get into photography right now. got a Canon power shot for like $100 and looking to upgrade, think this is going to be my next camera
Have you got it yet?
Which did you end up buying?
@@lorettaorji ended up getting the t7 instead because I found it for a lot cheaper and honestly I love it. It's a great camera in my opinion
Thank you for this! Super helpful as we try to decide on a camera
T8i??? Wow, my first digital camera was the T1i, about 12 years ago. Still have it.
same here
4000d/2000D are the entry models.
The T4i was my first DSLR. Shot some nice pics and lots of great video with it. I didn't even know there was a t8i. The m50 is a much better value, but I can understand that it may be somewhat hard to hold for some.
their i series are really good. the t3i i had since 2013 still takes very nice photos like it's brand new
I have the T7i. I love it. Looks like the T8i is about the same with, I assume, the new processor so probably just as good or a little better. And nothing I know of tops the duel pixel auto focus!
Honestly.. this is the best review I've seen for the entry-level Canon DSLRs in 2020. I've looked at every spec and compared everything available to the T7 I currently have. I want an upgrade (as well as a 2nd body so my wife and I can shoot together and share gear), but don't feel there's enough value in the 90D to warrant the price. Thank you! Subscribing!!
What will be your choice if you compare it with Fujifilms XT 30 ? Please suggest, Thanks
I disagree with the 18-55mm. That’s the first lens I’ve ever used and it still remains one of the sharpest lens for my APSC cameras. It is not EF or L but it gets the job done for a good price. I wouldn’t buy a non L lens for the telephoto range but these standard zooms are pretty decent
it's a good lens, but it's not a good lens for $150 if you can easily get it cheaper
I agree as a kit part you can't beat it, I use it a lot with EF lenses and it's fine.
You explained this video so well, like the example you made.
Been using the SL2/200D for a couple years now and it's excellent. You can get over the limitations and the smaller design is a good thing for me. I'm from Europe, so 25 to 24 fps isn't a HUGE difference, but I'm a stills kind of guy. The OVF's 9 point AF is a bit limiting but you can use liveview or focus and recompose, I guess.
Yeah, considering the 5D mark i & ii had 9 point AF, I think most people can live with it haha
Can't you change the "Video System" setting on the camera between PAL and NTSC? Or is that just on my 70D?
@@thenotsookayguy I can, but I prefer 25/50 over 24/30/60 lol
@@Diogo-fk3xn Heh, nice.
Lol I’m still shooting on a 5D classic, gives my images that film feel my customers love.
Still my all time favorite camera
I honestly can’t decide on a camera. I just want it for great photos for my Instagram business. 😞
Ive been shooting with 600d since 2010, when I got the GH4 I still use the 600D to date. 1080 is not created equally but heck, youtube can only accept 8mbps for 1080p
If you aren't supposed to get that lens, which one should you get?
Hi, What lens do you recommend?
the kit lens is not a bad lens, photography youtubers diss it because it’s branded as a ‘kit’ lens so it doesn’t sound professional
Yeah, it's just way overpriced
I just ordered the sl 3 but now I’m thinking this is better?