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I imagine considering humans hurt monsters so mercilessly. The nothing can hurt anyone anymore was initially followed by “becoming invincible.” And we know Chara’s plan was to obliterate that village and break the barrier. And utilize the 7 human souls. Perhaps they thought the way to make a world where no one can hurt anyone anymore is by waging war on humanity. Something Asriel noted was going to happen in pacifist. That way they get rid of those who cause them and monsters pain. And considering how god like you get with seven human souls to the point you can destroy the entire undertale world. I don’t think humans would’ve stood a chance hence why they searched to be invincible
@@Lasanga95actually that part changes depending on your tier, if you’re on the lower email tiers (or in the fangamer page) it mentions the triforce but if you’re on the truck freak tier it assumes you’re obsessed enough to know that’s the Deltarune
the letter really adds to the whole chara having a sort of 'completionist' attitude. like how they fill their glasses of water all the way. not to mention how the genocide route is the most completionist thing you could do in the entirety of undertale
Its funny/ sad how Chara and Asriel, even after their deaths and recarnations, kept with them what they considered cool. Asirel: God of Hyperdeath, Edgy Attacks, Acting like Chara. Chara: Getting a higher level, creepy faces, knives. They still kids at heart, Its just their mindset that changes due to their experience in the surface. "It's kill or be killed." "Getting a higher level,
Yeah, there's an added layer of tragedy to both of them with the letter in mind, and I love how we finally got more information about their relationship with each other and about Chara.
@Dorked Yeah, before this newsletter, we only really got information on their relationship from the few things Asirel said about them in Undertale and what we can gather with Kris, now we got lines more directly addressesing on how Chara acted.
The moment I read that "no, seven was weak" Part, a part of me just screamed "GOD DAMMIT TORIEL-" (the fact that this kind of silly talk about numbers can still end up with her roasting Asgore infuriates and impresses me at the same time-)
i just checked this out and the name of the chapter 3 image is "ch3_introarea" the intro area basically where we will wake up in the dark world (presumably the couch we were sleeping in), the chapter 4 image however is titled "ch4_flashlight". as for the cup dude it's literally just labeled "climbing_cup" lol, however this cup might be an object at the church dark world because alvin mentions that the church service offers fruit juice.
Power of SPAMTON is honestly my new favorite song ever. It explores a different side of Spamton never really shown in his final theme BIG SHOT is happy and bombastic, while this song sounds desperate and sinister. And when you get to the Don't Forget part, it feels hopeless and broken. Much like Spamton himself. It honestly fits him just as well as BS so I'd love if Toby went back and completed it one day By the way, I was slightly disappointed you cut off the Old Castle Town theme at that point because a few seconds later it references Chaos King, which I find really interesting
Yeah, I see what you mean, and I did at least play it in the background earlier in the video. I was doing this all unscripted and unedited and totally blind, so I was a little anxious about taking too long. That IS super interesting, though.
I think it’s funny, (and i know it’s easy to brush it aside with all the other juicy lore bits that we got from this newsletter) that this is something you missed as someone with the whole ‘papyrus is the knight’ theory which i think might be a very real possibility, and the line from the papyrus portion of this; “WHAT? WHY WOULD I EVER BE AN ENEMY?” now, this is UNDERTALE papyrus saying this so we have to take it with a grain of salt, but if that whole conversation they had probably wasn’t JUST casual silly banter and was, perhaps, lore stuff… i find it hard to ignore that papyrus is compared to the number 7, and that earlier in the bit he has said that seven could be a ‘misunderstood antihero’ which is.. what he would be if we’re following the idea of him being the knight (misunderstood because he’s not trying to do evil, he just wants to make friends, even if that means opening fountains, etc) idk and the way that it ends with that line or near that line makes it seem.. significant. maybe not, but i feel like it is or should be
That's a really good catch, actually! If I get around to a final speculation for chapters 3 and 4, I may touch on that. Since this was done blind and unscripted, I guess it just didn't click at the time, but that whole bit COULD absolutely be foreshadowing.
It should also be noted that if we’re reading into this, it implies that 7 isn’t just misguided, but actively misled. Which makes me think… Papyrus as a fakeout knight, manipulated by the real one?
@@Dorked I've also seen several people freak out at the Toriel Mitt description of maybe using her as a puppet is her best use. Has weird route tease vibes.
I figured papyrus wondering why he would be an enemy was a joke with how all characters you fight in RPGs like Undertale and Deltarune are called “enemies”
Who else feels that the unused cancel town theme, while upbeat, also has sinister undertones? Like, it's fun and playful, but it's also hiding some darker secret. Which is the vibe people are getting from Ralsei right now, so that makes sense.
I kinda also sounds like music that could have played in the Cafe instead of the whole town. More Instrumental feeling, like a live indoor performance.
It’s interesting how Chara not only wants to maximize their own power but seemingly empower everyone else, because if everyone has max stats, no one can hurt anyone anymore. Maybe that’s why they wanted to use their full power against the humans too, so that monsterkind could all have human souls and become invincible. But also that letter is so sweet and sad 😔
A newsletter dropping is always a delight. As part of the Truck Freak tier, I got a special bit involving the name i inputted when i signed up. Problem is, I completely forgot about that, and mistakenly thought there was new Mew Mew content. Anyway, its always cool to see your Newsletter Analysis thing?
If you open the chapter 3 image of Kris and Susie in a new tab, the URL will say "ch3_introarea". The Noelle one is "ch4_flashlight". The chapter 5 balloon is just balloons, and the cup gets "Climbing Cup"
You know I should have probably expected something chara related considering the whole 9 thing but man that ending letter hits me with so many different emotions I’m not sure where to start. How can something you can read in two minutes make me sad, scared and gives me a slightly wholesome feeling all at the same time?
@@Dorked And it’s amazing we can tell exactly who’s writing it and who it is about just by how the letters written with 0 other visuals needed. On an unrelated note, am I the only one who finds the conclusion after the bonus letter a little bit suspicious? “…But, did it make you happy to read it?” It’s almost like Chara themself took over writing at the end… or I’m just wayyyyyy overthinking it but I do find it fascinating.
i'll say it early while there's still time: a 'fell' AU could be called deltatime, where delta time is the correction variable for physics processes in game engines. reblog if you agree
@@DorkedI really hope Chara and Frisk get explained more in Deltarune, so the fandom stops arguing about them. Because it hasn't been the fun type of arguments, like debating theories, it has mostly been toxic.
@@Dorked Part of me wonders if the reason we're getting this letter is because Chara is going to be relevant to deltarune somehow. Even if its just them being the Undertale version of Kris
@@ashermccathern3847It's not impossible, after all, we got that tid bit that Chara likes to fill drinks to the brim for the sake of efficiency a little while back as well.
And Papyrus likes 7, which is just 1 away from 6. You know who's associated with 1? Sans. 1 atk, 1 def, 1 hp Either I'm absolutely cooking, or I'm absolutely cooked, and it will be funny either way
@@v-t-holmesHowever, it should be noted that Toby said that Mad Mailer was scrapped along with the other predecessor characters “because their existence conflicted with those characters.” Implying that Spamton was conceived before or at the same time as Mad Mailer, and that eventually Mad Mailer’s traits were incorporated into Spamton. The character resembling Spamton from the UT Art Book could have been what Spamton looked like before that point.
We have actually seen the Cup in a previous newsletter! In the Winter 2024, AKA Valentine's Newsletter, there's a "cup_walka" gif. Personally, I imagine it's something like a "cup" & "cap" pun. The feather is probably so it looks like a feather cap; Why would a cup have a feather? Anyway, interesting analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
I gotta say, i really like and appreciate these Newsletters and can’t wait for the next one, Just as I can’t wait for your next Video and what you’ll cover next. By the way, I didn’t even realize that was supposed to have been made by Asriel, I wonder why Toby decided to share that with us? Anyway, i hope you’re Non-Undertale/Deltarune Videos manages to do better eventually, i really like those, Good luck with whatever else you’re working on.
I suspect a part of it is the timing of it being the 9th anniversary, but Toby is also very aware, no doubt, of Chara and Asriel's popularity, so it's cool that he gave us some lore nuggets.
I have already seen this newsletter from watching Shayy's video on it and the Sans 9 interview what's so funny I was holding in my laughter the entire time because I watched it late in the night and my parents we're sleeping It's getting more and more likely that we will probably see chapters 3 and 4 during December this year or January next year
Yeah, I think early 2025 is a pretty safe bet, unless he holds off for Undertale's 10th anniversary, which I'd still respect, tbh, even if it'd be a long wait.
Have you heard of Bettina Levy? She's a big fan of Undertale and Deltarune, and she has a presence on RUclips and Tumblr. She's very friendly, even to people who aren't her friends. I hope she makes a video about the newsletter too. @@Dorked
I hope the scrapped Queen themes spawn a wave of creepypasta / Evil Queen fangames I need to hear these themes to a battle. Same with Power of NEO (hell yeahhhhhhh) Also loved the voices you put on for the numbers debate interview! They sound exactly how I imagine them sounding but I can’t make higher voices 😢
16:44 Damn, i love the bacteriophage inspired sprite there. I love bacteriophage designs. Half-Life: Alyx's final catwalk has an amazing example of that
Yeah, the copyright claim is unfortunate, but at least I bounced back from it fast enough. It was a small setback, but the video is doing well despite being the day after, so that helps a lot.
5:49 on truck freak tier description is a bit different. "Yes, it's the DELTARUNE from Toriel's clothing! I always wanted to wear Toriel's clothing!" Hum... Thank you, truck-freak... You didn't need to say that though.
Spanmton's hey every esque song honestly seems pretty appropriate for original spamton what with the jaunty jazz type stuff, and I also find it intrtesting how the Power Of Spamton newer track retains the tripling motif from Dummy!
I honestly feel like it has to come out late this year probably maybe late November or late December It it’s already wrapping up its production so if it doesn’t come out this year, it would probably come out early January at the latest. It just feels like it’s complete at this point and they’re just putting the finishing touches
I know this comment is unrelated from this video but i have to say, it's interesting that some people from the fandom believe that noelle would figure about the dark world and this had me thinking, what if those that experience the dark world and thought it was a dream would learn it's real and/or that the entirety of hometown learning about the roaring?
The crazy amount of merch pretty much funded Chapter 2 and we didnt have to pay for it. I feel like the Spamton merch alone can fund the rest of the game
7 ate 9 why this all theme feels more about Chara and Asriel?That's why even said about eat makes them disapear?Like when Asriel tool Chara soul,it didn't make disapear.Or when they talking about anti-hero and so.
@@Dorked Right?Ok,this one is really just big theory but I would love if you could listen my nonsense^^Like 7 doesn't make sense cuz Asriel has 6 letters BUT we need 7 souls to break barrier and 9 is obviously Chara and letter from Asriel talking how Chara likes number 9 cuz nobody can hurt you and 9 is used in Genocide when we see Chara.Them why number 8?8 can be number of Unity or Universe.We see it like,,endless number,, when we fight to Asriel when he has form of Angel of Death. About Sans and Paps use 01001 binary as Windings can be show that YES,Paps knows Windings too when he knows binary,can interpret that when he has knowledge of such languages,can be intelect as Sans but he just hiding much better as Sans,maybe really holding himself in genocide run.And even has gaster blaster.Why?Why I am going too far?This newsletter are themed by genocide!9 is number of END or new beggining!(when you look to names and game in numbers or better say in ANGELS NUMBERS,it make more sense.Like Chara and Frisk has 5,number of freedom,or Kris and Sans number of 4 which is number of DETERMIMATION,I mean we have game named Deltarune!(Delta=4= Determination,Rune=Route or Twilight,yes 4.route cuz we have in Undertale 3 routes PNG kinda like .png=picture)Ok,why then binary 0101?This two numbers are often used in CODING games!Why would you even used 0=nothing and 1=something?Both 01 means,balance of WORLD,when is good then is bad.I mean, why Paps and Sans used this one?Why not mose code or windings or any other one?It seems like Paps know as well he is in game but unlike Sans,he is better hiding it,did you heard ,,lied to truth,,?I mean his theme Bonetrousle sound very happy...almost forced to be happy.When in neutral he become King he show he true depressive himself to us AFTER Sans is out.Like he hides with smile his worries...like Sans does,they are really bros... Like Paps is more mysterious then Sans BUT we never questioning as Sans cuz he seems so honest and friendly...so open,right?He is like someone really friendly who give you something or help you and in other day you ask,,Who actually was that person?Do I know anything about him?,,Is like he knew he can't win BUT he tries make game enjoyable to you I mean most things in pacifist wouldn't be happend if not him!And in neutral route when you kill him,many people are very depressed and Sans is really bitter but not just cuz he is his brother but it seems like Paps try to believe you to change perspective for you as how you see this game.Make it memorable to you and play dumb that you won't question things but enjoy game and characters so you won't need make them suffer.I mean,genocide route is proof like when you fight with him,Paps!Paps who is energetic person of all,he don't MOVE!Sans moving,Asriel moving Undyne moving,all of them almost moving,PAPS NOT!There were video theory that monster move in fight when they are almost lets say have ,,kill/blud lust,,but Paps not.Why?We are not his friends and this route,so why?Is cuz he doesnt harm us or HE KNEW he can't harm us.That's why he hug us, that's why he saying I BELIEVE YOU,you can't change.Why would he say that?Paps is not stupid as he seems,he wanted be Royal Guardian,Undyne said how he fights and how tough he is.We can see it in pacifict route.He has full control of his power,he even can't kill us as Toriel so why he won't fight us or least try talk us out much better of killing?Why his Deja-vu are better then Sans?He knew,he can't win.He knew much more then you think...I mean,he knows how Sans travel in time and space(from Frisk traveling scene when you meet him in Sans room)Most he hates Dogs and listen ,,Annoying Dog,,Dog=God?Annoying God?Why he always not let Paps shows special attack or go to annoy him?Why would anyone hate GOD,GOD which is DETERMINATION itself?So...Idk why nobody talk to this but I think nobody gets REAL MESSAGE of Undertale or Deltarune(which in DT it shows directly on Kris and Noelle in weird route or fight with Spamton) and this will get depressing...both games are about DETERMINISM.If you know what it is,you know everything about both games.And Sans fight now makes more sense,same with Flowey and same with Kris and why he can't express or move and it shows why when Kris used Noelle in weird route...YOU DON'T MATTER,YOU ACTIONS CHOICES DON'T MATTER...sound familiar?Why these words?Cuz yes,when you would be in Sans place YOU DON'T MATTER,you feelings,opinions your thought don't matter in determinism.God made us one role and you can't escape from it if you want or not.Fate even is in trailer used...not destiny but FATE!You,PLAYER are GOD,you have FREE WILL decide what you want in game BUT in this characters or world you are determination...Stay determined...why that words?Why not DONT GIVE UP,right?Cuz determined you are,to choose fate of this world,determinism is depressing belied cuz is same as dictatorship.No matter what these characters do,they can't escape from FATE...Sorry,I would write more but is already too long...I hope I give you idea and little of my thoughts.Love your videos,can't wait to see more
i really think the release date is gonna be sometime near the very end of this year, maybe in december just to be thematic especially with the importance of noelle
When you're done with Inverted Fate's main story any idea if you can do small what ifs on it (different ACTions, lack of certain items, or even dummied-out concepts (including with the literal dummy))?
This newsletter released at 2am for my timezone, and how the hell was i, a mega Chara fan supposed to go to SLEEP after reading THAT??!?! I have been insane ever since.
The number 9 interview has some parts that go surprisingly well with the Knight Papyrus theory! Especially with the "looks like an enemy but is actually a good guy" part.
5:43 the "butterscotch pie" text has to have some variation because I got "chicken stir fry pie" because I put chicken stir fry as my favourite food when I signed up....
I think dragons are cool. xD Always enjoyed drawing cartoon critters and stuff, though I don't actively participate in the furry fandom per se. Thanks, tho!
I remember seeing this one video on RUclips that when someone puts their ATK on like 999999 and plays the game, hitting an enemy would count as a miss. Not sure if that's a reference to that.
@@Dorked As Asriel stated about Chara, when everyone's stats become so high, no one will be able to harm anyone, nor will they become able to get harmed themselves. If you increase your numbers and increase the enemy's numbers so much, the battle cannot be solved using violence.
Im really curious now is Undyne vegetarian? I cant recall if Ive ever seen her mention eating anything with meat in it before, when you cook with her theres no meat for the spaghetti just some fruits/veggies and noodles, and now this vegetarian stargazy pie, i think it be very interesting and cool if she was vegetarian! Tho i might just be reading to much into this
For me Ive been deliberating why toby included the chara and asriel letter because first of all, the conclusion paragraph as a whole is formatted exactly like the mysterious gaster valentine, along with the odd existential questions (does it make you happy?) and odd spacing, implying that gaster or whoever wrote that valentine dropped this chara lore. First of all, if this is true that means that the mysterious writer IS gaster because who else has access to this Undertale lore? Secondly, the fact that Chara is being brought up at all when we're on the hunt for deltarune lore implies that Chara is significant to deltarune lore, when many thought that they werent a part of it at all. Perhaps the second voice that cuts into the vessel creation at the end (the one who throws your creation away and talks in normal font instead of all caps). Thanks for reading my yap session I was freaking out over this newsletter all night so I needed to get my thoughts out lol
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YES THE GOAT OF A SERIES IS BACK
I honestly didn't expect some new Chara lore to be revealed. The whole "Nothing can hurt you/anyone anymore" definitly has implications
YEAH, there's so much you can read into Chara about that?? I love it.
It adds a lot more context as to why they apparently hated humanity so much.
I imagine considering humans hurt monsters so mercilessly. The nothing can hurt anyone anymore was initially followed by “becoming invincible.”
And we know Chara’s plan was to obliterate that village and break the barrier. And utilize the 7 human souls.
Perhaps they thought the way to make a world where no one can hurt anyone anymore is by waging war on humanity. Something Asriel noted was going to happen in pacifist. That way they get rid of those who cause them and monsters pain.
And considering how god like you get with seven human souls to the point you can destroy the entire undertale world. I don’t think humans would’ve stood a chance hence why they searched to be invincible
There's implications for these words and the end of the No Mercy route but I'm not sure what.
Damn, we barely get anything with Chara feels great
I'm guessing but this is more possible proof the "Chara was abused" theroy or fans coming up with that idea Toby took it.
The binary says
Sans - so 7 8 9?
Papyrus - SANS!
And now the effort I spent translating Papyrus' messages was useless
Thanks for the translation! :D
@@Dorked you’re welcome!
To be honest I'm impressed that Papyrus knows binary to even respond to Sans that easily.
@@proximaeon I'm more surprised that sans knows it
Jumped out of my skin when the letter addressed me by name. I was like WHOA you can’t do that you’re just an email 😨
That's very Undertale, though. Well played, Toby and Fangamer crew.
Yeah same mine said yeah it looks like the triforce wich is a bit funny to me because I also like the legend of zelda.
Did it also mention what your favorite food was?
@@johanstenfelt1206 yeah, potato chips are my whole thing so i was so shocked when i saw both my name and favorite food
@@Lasanga95actually that part changes depending on your tier, if you’re on the lower email tiers (or in the fangamer page) it mentions the triforce but if you’re on the truck freak tier it assumes you’re obsessed enough to know that’s the Deltarune
the letter really adds to the whole chara having a sort of 'completionist' attitude. like how they fill their glasses of water all the way. not to mention how the genocide route is the most completionist thing you could do in the entirety of undertale
Yeah, and there are a lot of ways you can read into it- like that attitude stemming from necessity/past experiences. It's spiffy.
I'm glad my "Chara is a representation of the player" theory is gaining even more traction.
@@StarwayBunnydont forget so is flowey
@@amagicalbeing7427yup, everyone agree that Flowey is the darker reflection of the player
Chapter 3 & 4 are feature complete, a full Power of NEO, new Chara content, this is one of the best newsletters ever
Yeah, I think it's easily my favorite newsletter yet. There was just so much!
Its funny/ sad how Chara and Asriel, even after their deaths and recarnations, kept with them what they considered cool.
Asirel: God of Hyperdeath, Edgy Attacks, Acting like Chara.
Chara: Getting a higher level, creepy faces, knives.
They still kids at heart, Its just their mindset that changes due to their experience in the surface.
"It's kill or be killed."
"Getting a higher level,
Yeah, there's an added layer of tragedy to both of them with the letter in mind, and I love how we finally got more information about their relationship with each other and about Chara.
@Dorked Yeah, before this newsletter, we only really got information on their relationship from the few things Asirel said about them in Undertale and what we can gather with Kris, now we got lines more directly addressesing on how Chara acted.
getting... stronger."
@@steveluvscows2490 Stronger than you.
Asriel became a psicopath who wanted god powers.
Chara started the grinding. (lmao)
The moment I read that "no, seven was weak" Part, a part of me just screamed "GOD DAMMIT TORIEL-" (the fact that this kind of silly talk about numbers can still end up with her roasting Asgore infuriates and impresses me at the same time-)
Never underestimate a divorced wife's scorn, in all seriousness I wish we can just see Asgore's reaction to that lmao
@@shipperina2213 Yess there needs to be more Asgore CONTENT
my brother and I were very upset when Asgore didn't appear
i just checked this out and the name of the chapter 3 image is "ch3_introarea" the intro area basically where we will wake up in the dark world (presumably the couch we were sleeping in), the chapter 4 image however is titled "ch4_flashlight".
as for the cup dude it's literally just labeled "climbing_cup" lol, however this cup might be an object at the church dark world because alvin mentions that the church service offers fruit juice.
Oh damn! That's a really good catch. c: Thanks for sharing.
I'm the Toriel Mitt, and I approve.
The Toriel Mitt is important and deserves to be celebrated.
toriel mitt what's your opinion on chairiel
Is there an Asgore Mitt? :3
@kapturchik0 Very cool.
@thecyberempire7489 I do not talk about him ever since... the eggscident.
Power of SPAMTON is honestly my new favorite song ever. It explores a different side of Spamton never really shown in his final theme
BIG SHOT is happy and bombastic, while this song sounds desperate and sinister. And when you get to the Don't Forget part, it feels hopeless and broken. Much like Spamton himself. It honestly fits him just as well as BS so I'd love if Toby went back and completed it one day
By the way, I was slightly disappointed you cut off the Old Castle Town theme at that point because a few seconds later it references Chaos King, which I find really interesting
Yeah, I see what you mean, and I did at least play it in the background earlier in the video. I was doing this all unscripted and unedited and totally blind, so I was a little anxious about taking too long. That IS super interesting, though.
The Mouseamillion actually did make it into the final game, they're in chapter 2's mansion and has the same dialogue.
Oh, whoops! I guess I am just forgetful. xD It's been a while. - Dorked (on fireglobe account for uploadin')
Asriel doesn't want things to end, and wants to stay friends forever.
No wonder his Atk and Def is ♾️
:-(
Papyrus, Being labled as -7, a villain who thinks their a good guy
He's either taunting me or he's forshadowing something
It could be a reference to Undertale or it could totally be knight foreshadowing.
I think it’s funny, (and i know it’s easy to brush it aside with all the other juicy lore bits that we got from this newsletter)
that this is something you missed as someone with the whole ‘papyrus is the knight’ theory which i think might be a very real possibility, and the line from the papyrus portion of this;
“WHAT? WHY WOULD I EVER BE AN ENEMY?”
now, this is UNDERTALE papyrus saying this so we have to take it with a grain of salt, but if that whole conversation they had probably wasn’t JUST casual silly banter and was, perhaps, lore stuff… i find it hard to ignore that papyrus is compared to the number 7, and that earlier in the bit he has said that seven could be a ‘misunderstood antihero’ which is.. what he would be if we’re following the idea of him being the knight (misunderstood because he’s not trying to do evil, he just wants to make friends, even if that means opening fountains, etc)
idk and the way that it ends with that line or near that line makes it seem.. significant. maybe not, but i feel like it is or should be
That's a really good catch, actually! If I get around to a final speculation for chapters 3 and 4, I may touch on that. Since this was done blind and unscripted, I guess it just didn't click at the time, but that whole bit COULD absolutely be foreshadowing.
It should also be noted that if we’re reading into this, it implies that 7 isn’t just misguided, but actively misled. Which makes me think… Papyrus as a fakeout knight, manipulated by the real one?
@@Dorked
I've also seen several people freak out at the Toriel Mitt description of maybe using her as a puppet is her best use.
Has weird route tease vibes.
I figured papyrus wondering why he would be an enemy was a joke with how all characters you fight in RPGs like Undertale and Deltarune are called “enemies”
Who else feels that the unused cancel town theme, while upbeat, also has sinister undertones? Like, it's fun and playful, but it's also hiding some darker secret. Which is the vibe people are getting from Ralsei right now, so that makes sense.
I can definitely pick up on that. The more militaristic feel in places could definitely add to that unease.
cancel town
perfect name for it
I kinda also sounds like music that could have played in the Cafe instead of the whole town.
More Instrumental feeling, like a live indoor performance.
It’s interesting how Chara not only wants to maximize their own power but seemingly empower everyone else, because if everyone has max stats, no one can hurt anyone anymore.
Maybe that’s why they wanted to use their full power against the humans too, so that monsterkind could all have human souls and become invincible.
But also that letter is so sweet and sad 😔
Yeah, I think Chara had good intentions that were just heavily skewed by trauma and bitterness toward living in the human world.
A newsletter dropping is always a delight. As part of the Truck Freak tier, I got a special bit involving the name i inputted when i signed up. Problem is, I completely forgot about that, and mistakenly thought there was new Mew Mew content. Anyway, its always cool to see your Newsletter Analysis thing?
Yeah, I used the website version just because I wanted to get to work as soon as I could, but that IS such a cool touch!
I FORGOT TOO OMG I WAS SOOOO GOOPED LOL.
I signed up for truck freak but no matter what I do it won't send me the extra emails :c
I forgot I put in sushi so they said sushi pie is my favorite lol
@@fredrikaKH Corn on the cob pie. No matter what, it's always Corn on the cob. With a capital "C." Why did past me feel the need to capitalize it?!?!
The absolute emotional whiplash I got from seeing Queen's first concept art to her second concept art (11:29) was weirdly hilarious to me
If you open the chapter 3 image of Kris and Susie in a new tab, the URL will say "ch3_introarea". The Noelle one is "ch4_flashlight". The chapter 5 balloon is just balloons, and the cup gets "Climbing Cup"
Oh, so it IS a cup and not a fez! Nice. Intro area is really interesting, too. Really calls back to the start of chapter 1's dark world in a way.
You know I should have probably expected something chara related considering the whole 9 thing but man that ending letter hits me with so many different emotions I’m not sure where to start. How can something you can read in two minutes make me sad, scared and gives me a slightly wholesome feeling all at the same time?
I think that's a testament to Toby's writing, if anything. He's very good at capturing emotions just in the way the characters speak.
@@Dorked And it’s amazing we can tell exactly who’s writing it and who it is about just by how the letters written with 0 other visuals needed. On an unrelated note, am I the only one who finds the conclusion after the bonus letter a little bit suspicious? “…But, did it make you happy to read it?” It’s almost like Chara themself took over writing at the end… or I’m just wayyyyyy overthinking it but I do find it fascinating.
THAT LETTER AT THE END DESTROYED ME......... THESE DOOMED BY THE NARRATIVE SIBLINGS MAKE ME SO UNWELL
I HAVE SO MANY FEELINGS ABOUT IT. IT'S SO SAD...
7:11 imagine chapter five is semi fnaf inspired. I mean it’s chapter FIVE and if it has to do with a pizza parlor… ok now I’m just grasping for straws
This will be the new friend inside me
...You know, I wouldn't put it past Toby. He's a memer at heart.
That Sans cup seems like a way to have fun trying to make AUs.
Chocolate milk au,
Pink lemonade au,
Orange Juice au,
Green tea au.....
@@quercus432 I wouldn't be surprised if there was a drinks based Undertale AU.
If there isn't, there probably will be one after this.
PISS SANS
i know that i sound like a lunatic, but maybe the 7 8 9 stuff's foreshadowing?
I didn't think much of it when I recorded this, but I could totally see that being the case.
i'll say it early while there's still time: a 'fell' AU could be called deltatime, where delta time is the correction variable for physics processes in game engines. reblog if you agree
Oh, that's a really clever idea. o:
I'm all for the Sans and Papyrus Salt and Pepper
They are absolutely charming. The whole merch set honestly is.
Asriel's letter absolutely destroyed me when I first read this letter.
YEAH, LIKE. That was such a gut punch, but I love what it adds to Chara.
@@DorkedI really hope Chara and Frisk get explained more in Deltarune, so the fandom stops arguing about them.
Because it hasn't been the fun type of arguments, like debating theories, it has mostly been toxic.
@@Dorked Part of me wonders if the reason we're getting this letter is because Chara is going to be relevant to deltarune somehow. Even if its just them being the Undertale version of Kris
@@ashermccathern3847It's not impossible, after all, we got that tid bit that Chara likes to fill drinks to the brim for the sake of efficiency a little while back as well.
6:25 thats pretty obviously more of the spooky first area from Chapter 1 that nobody can make heads or tails of. Same colors and aesthetic.
Yeah, I didn't realize until after I had recorded. Yet again, hindsight strikes. xD;
This is another parallel between chara and gaster. Chara likes 9 and Gaster likes 6. This is definitely not a coincidence
And Papyrus likes 7, which is just 1 away from 6. You know who's associated with 1? Sans. 1 atk, 1 def, 1 hp
Either I'm absolutely cooking, or I'm absolutely cooked, and it will be funny either way
@@WhoStoleKirya73 does that mean that gaster is afraid of papyrus because papyrus ate chara.
That's a really interesting point, too. And 6 and 9 have the same shape but face different directions.
@@ettozee2984 papryus is negative seven
and -9 -8 -7
so he's cooked
@@zixvirzjghamn737negative 9, negative chara…
frisk?
I wonder if the reason there was no Spamton concept art is because we already saw him in the Undertale Art Book, the one with the blacked out name
there is very early spamton concept art in the newsletter though, the mad mailer (in the 2nd concept art image on the page) is a spamton predecessor
@@v-t-holmesHowever, it should be noted that Toby said that Mad Mailer was scrapped along with the other predecessor characters “because their existence conflicted with those characters.” Implying that Spamton was conceived before or at the same time as Mad Mailer, and that eventually Mad Mailer’s traits were incorporated into Spamton. The character resembling Spamton from the UT Art Book could have been what Spamton looked like before that point.
You know, that's entirely possible. The lack of Spamton concepts IS interesting in that respect. No DJ's either.
We have actually seen the Cup in a previous newsletter! In the Winter 2024, AKA Valentine's Newsletter, there's a "cup_walka" gif.
Personally, I imagine it's something like a "cup" & "cap" pun. The feather is probably so it looks like a feather cap; Why would a cup have a feather?
Anyway, interesting analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
Ohhh, good catch! It's been so long since I actually forgot about that.
A finished version of the unused Queen fight would be perfect for Snowgrave.
i... honestly didnt expect so much information. im so happy i could cry haha
YEAH, they knocked it outta the park! All these recent newsletters have been delightful.
We (somewhat) have a full version of Power of NEO now, I am so fricken happy.
It's really interesting to hear how Toby envisioned it after so many years of diverse fan arrangements.
I gotta say, i really like and appreciate these Newsletters and can’t wait for the next one,
Just as I can’t wait for your next Video and what you’ll cover next.
By the way, I didn’t even realize that was supposed to have been made by Asriel, I wonder why Toby decided to share that with us?
Anyway, i hope you’re Non-Undertale/Deltarune Videos manages to do better eventually, i really like those,
Good luck with whatever else you’re working on.
I suspect a part of it is the timing of it being the 9th anniversary, but Toby is also very aware, no doubt, of Chara and Asriel's popularity, so it's cool that he gave us some lore nuggets.
I have already seen this newsletter from watching Shayy's video on it and the Sans 9 interview what's so funny I was holding in my laughter the entire time because I watched it late in the night and my parents we're sleeping
It's getting more and more likely that we will probably see chapters 3 and 4 during December this year or January next year
Yeah, I think early 2025 is a pretty safe bet, unless he holds off for Undertale's 10th anniversary, which I'd still respect, tbh, even if it'd be a long wait.
Spamton (forgotten) sounds like something out of the original Bubsy. I don't know why my brain made the connection, but it's there now.
I think that cup thing is an upside down fez with legs.
....it does look like a fez, and now I feel silly. xD
Have you heard of Bettina Levy? She's a big fan of Undertale and Deltarune, and she has a presence on RUclips and Tumblr. She's very friendly, even to people who aren't her friends. I hope she makes a video about the newsletter too. @@Dorked
14:44 ermm actually mousemillian does show up as an npc in queens mansion
YEAH, I just totally forgot because it's been a hot minute. Thanks for pointing that out! - Dorked
I hope the scrapped Queen themes spawn a wave of creepypasta / Evil Queen fangames I need to hear these themes to a battle.
Same with Power of NEO (hell yeahhhhhhh)
Also loved the voices you put on for the numbers debate interview! They sound exactly how I imagine them sounding but I can’t make higher voices 😢
Eyy, thanks. xD The accidental Vector the Crocodile moments were amusing to me for some reason.
@@Dorked I mean Vector is a cool guy so you get no complaints from me haha 😂
16:44 Damn, i love the bacteriophage inspired sprite there. I love bacteriophage designs. Half-Life: Alyx's final catwalk has an amazing example of that
The printer song is now my favourite piece of music from any media ever.
The printer song is peak Toby Fox silly, and I love it.
Agreed
Yet, again fuck Materia for copyright claiming shit they shouldn’t own in the first place
Yeah, the copyright claim is unfortunate, but at least I bounced back from it fast enough. It was a small setback, but the video is doing well despite being the day after, so that helps a lot.
I just want to say this incase it's not in the video: The image for chapter 3 is called "ch3_introarea" if you open it in a separate tab.
Yep! I found out after the video was done. It's very interesting. c:
As a papyrus knight believer the interview has satisfied my hunger
You know it's gonna be a good day when you upload!
Eyy, thank ye! :)
5:49 on truck freak tier description is a bit different.
"Yes, it's the DELTARUNE from Toriel's clothing! I always wanted to wear Toriel's clothing!"
Hum... Thank you, truck-freak... You didn't need to say that though.
Yeah, I noticed that after I checked my email. xD
lots an analogy to papyrus being the '7th' boss and we possibly be getting an 8th and 9th boss down he road
Ooh, yeah. I see a lot of people connecting the metaphors with the numbers to DR.
As a Chara fan, we won today!!!
Spanmton's hey every esque song honestly seems pretty appropriate for original spamton what with the jaunty jazz type stuff, and I also find it intrtesting how the Power Of Spamton newer track retains the tripling motif from Dummy!
Bianry =
Sans- so 789?
Papyrus- SANS!
I love how each new newsletter get better and better than the last
my heart yearns for more chara lore/content
I honestly feel like it has to come out late this year probably maybe late November or late December
It it’s already wrapping up its production so if it doesn’t come out this year, it would probably come out early January at the latest. It just feels like it’s complete at this point and they’re just putting the finishing touches
Christmas would be so fitting, especially if we get more Dess info in these chapters.
I know this comment is unrelated from this video but i have to say, it's interesting that some people from the fandom believe that noelle would figure about the dark world and this had me thinking, what if those that experience the dark world and thought it was a dream would learn it's real and/or that the entirety of hometown learning about the roaring?
Damn you have the PERFECT Undyne voice wth 2:07
Oh, thank ye. c:
The crazy amount of merch pretty much funded Chapter 2 and we didnt have to pay for it. I feel like the Spamton merch alone can fund the rest of the game
What an amazing interview
It was so fun. x) Seeing Toriel be all serious about duty was really funny compared to everyone else.
7 ate 9 why this all theme feels more about Chara and Asriel?That's why even said about eat makes them disapear?Like when Asriel tool Chara soul,it didn't make disapear.Or when they talking about anti-hero and so.
Oh, that's an interesting interpretation, too.
@@Dorked Right?Ok,this one is really just big theory but I would love if you could listen my nonsense^^Like 7 doesn't make sense cuz Asriel has 6 letters BUT we need 7 souls to break barrier and 9 is obviously Chara and letter from Asriel talking how Chara likes number 9 cuz nobody can hurt you and 9 is used in Genocide when we see Chara.Them why number 8?8 can be number of Unity or Universe.We see it like,,endless number,, when we fight to Asriel when he has form of Angel of Death.
About Sans and Paps use 01001 binary as Windings can be show that YES,Paps knows Windings too when he knows binary,can interpret that when he has knowledge of such languages,can be intelect as Sans but he just hiding much better as Sans,maybe really holding himself in genocide run.And even has gaster blaster.Why?Why I am going too far?This newsletter are themed by genocide!9 is number of END or new beggining!(when you look to names and game in numbers or better say in ANGELS NUMBERS,it make more sense.Like Chara and Frisk has 5,number of freedom,or Kris and Sans number of 4 which is number of DETERMIMATION,I mean we have game named Deltarune!(Delta=4= Determination,Rune=Route or Twilight,yes 4.route cuz we have in Undertale 3 routes PNG kinda like .png=picture)Ok,why then binary 0101?This two numbers are often used in CODING games!Why would you even used 0=nothing and 1=something?Both 01 means,balance of WORLD,when is good then is bad.I mean, why Paps and Sans used this one?Why not mose code or windings or any other one?It seems like Paps know as well he is in game but unlike Sans,he is better hiding it,did you heard ,,lied to truth,,?I mean his theme Bonetrousle sound very happy...almost forced to be happy.When in neutral he become King he show he true depressive himself to us AFTER Sans is out.Like he hides with smile his worries...like Sans does,they are really bros... Like Paps is more mysterious then Sans BUT we never questioning as Sans cuz he seems so honest and friendly...so open,right?He is like someone really friendly who give you something or help you and in other day you ask,,Who actually was that person?Do I know anything about him?,,Is like he knew he can't win BUT he tries make game enjoyable to you I mean most things in pacifist wouldn't be happend if not him!And in neutral route when you kill him,many people are very depressed and Sans is really bitter but not just cuz he is his brother but it seems like Paps try to believe you to change perspective for you as how you see this game.Make it memorable to you and play dumb that you won't question things but enjoy game and characters so you won't need make them suffer.I mean,genocide route is proof like when you fight with him,Paps!Paps who is energetic person of all,he don't MOVE!Sans moving,Asriel moving Undyne moving,all of them almost moving,PAPS NOT!There were video theory that monster move in fight when they are almost lets say have ,,kill/blud lust,,but Paps not.Why?We are not his friends and this route,so why?Is cuz he doesnt harm us or HE KNEW he can't harm us.That's why he hug us, that's why he saying I BELIEVE YOU,you can't change.Why would he say that?Paps is not stupid as he seems,he wanted be Royal Guardian,Undyne said how he fights and how tough he is.We can see it in pacifict route.He has full control of his power,he even can't kill us as Toriel so why he won't fight us or least try talk us out much better of killing?Why his Deja-vu are better then Sans?He knew,he can't win.He knew much more then you think...I mean,he knows how Sans travel in time and space(from Frisk traveling scene when you meet him in Sans room)Most he hates Dogs and listen ,,Annoying Dog,,Dog=God?Annoying God?Why he always not let Paps shows special attack or go to annoy him?Why would anyone hate GOD,GOD which is DETERMINATION itself?So...Idk why nobody talk to this but I think nobody gets REAL MESSAGE of Undertale or Deltarune(which in DT it shows directly on Kris and Noelle in weird route or fight with Spamton) and this will get depressing...both games are about DETERMINISM.If you know what it is,you know everything about both games.And Sans fight now makes more sense,same with Flowey and same with Kris and why he can't express or move and it shows why when Kris used Noelle in weird route...YOU DON'T MATTER,YOU ACTIONS CHOICES DON'T MATTER...sound familiar?Why these words?Cuz yes,when you would be in Sans place YOU DON'T MATTER,you feelings,opinions your thought don't matter in determinism.God made us one role and you can't escape from it if you want or not.Fate even is in trailer used...not destiny but FATE!You,PLAYER are GOD,you have FREE WILL decide what you want in game BUT in this characters or world you are determination...Stay determined...why that words?Why not DONT GIVE UP,right?Cuz determined you are,to choose fate of this world,determinism is depressing belied cuz is same as dictatorship.No matter what these characters do,they can't escape from FATE...Sorry,I would write more but is already too long...I hope I give you idea and little of my thoughts.Love your videos,can't wait to see more
Mad Mailer kind of reminds me of Box Mettaton, with the boxy torso, the one wheel, and the tie like in the hotland news segment
oh my gosh thank you for listening to the music i love hearing music reactions
Chapter 3 and 4 in December at the earliest
God. Imagine he drops them on christmas...
@@Dorked that would be the best present I’ve ever gotten
@@Dorked will I don't want to make fake hype honestly i could honestly see this happening
December 24 because krismas came early
10:49 Am I the only one who thinks that drawing of queen with the big smile looks similar to Spamton's front facing sprite in the shop?
....actually, I can kinda see the resemblance.
i really think the release date is gonna be sometime near the very end of this year, maybe in december just to be thematic especially with the importance of noelle
When you're done with Inverted Fate's main story any idea if you can do small what ifs on it (different ACTions, lack of certain items, or even dummied-out concepts (including with the literal dummy))?
I'll have to think of things to cover. We do still have some playable stuff based on early chapters in the works, though.
the power rangers thing ttacks given how often super sentai uses the "visors eyes with lips" thing
6:29 noelle is wearing black, black si often worn at funurals. Who dose the entire fandom think is gonna die? Noelles dad. Get over analyzed
6:20 The file name confirms that is the intro area to chapter 3's dark world!
Yep! I was just trying to record so I didn't think to just... open in a new tab. HINDSIGHT. xD;
This newsletter released at 2am for my timezone, and how the hell was i, a mega Chara fan supposed to go to SLEEP after reading THAT??!?! I have been insane ever since.
Unfinished Castle Town sounds SO much like "Jesters of the Moon' from Final Fantasy 9. It's vibes are so incredibly similar.
I KNEW I was getting Final Fantasy vibes! That's totally possible as inspiration.
17:50 Wow that's a proto World Revolving in there
21:32
It kinda reminds me of Sailor Moon intro (the part with bells sound)
The number 9 interview has some parts that go surprisingly well with the Knight Papyrus theory! Especially with the "looks like an enemy but is actually a good guy" part.
Yeah, I didn't think of it at the time, but I definitely agree with that consensus, having thought it over more.
I was surprised by the newsletter, too!
Power of Spamton (Older) had part of World Revolving into it, so even more of a connection with jevil
Yeah, it used a different part of it than the final Big Shot, which is really interesting.
5:43 the "butterscotch pie" text has to have some variation because I got "chicken stir fry pie" because I put chicken stir fry as my favourite food when I signed up....
Yeah, it definitely does. I was going off of the website version rather than the email one because my email hadn't arrived yet.
yoooo i’ve been playing moon lately, i keep being taunted with videos going more in-depth with it while i’m trying to stay mostly blind lol
Dorked, I haven't wached your content in a while so congratulations on coming out as a furrie whenever that happened
I think dragons are cool. xD Always enjoyed drawing cartoon critters and stuff, though I don't actively participate in the furry fandom per se. Thanks, tho!
Theres no law against mitt batman...
Edit: this is a joke, don't take it serious
Mint batman...
Don't you DARE
@@matti.8465 :)
14:42 erm mousemillian is in the final game
Yeah, I just forgot because it had been a while, haha! I just forgot to edit a note about that 'cause I was trying to get this out on time.
Maybe the cup is chapter 4's secret boss
Spamton battle forgotten sounds a lot like a song from donkey kong country tropical freeze
you gotta find the computer room, papyrus - vector undyne
Imagine an interaction between Sans and Ralsei
9:53 That's 100% Photoshop Flowey/DT Extraction Machine/Gaster Blaster shaped
The remade power of neo reminds me of a vocaloid song I love it
Ooh, wonder how long it takes for someone to add Hatsune Miku vocals to it--
I remember seeing this one video on RUclips that when someone puts their ATK on like 999999 and plays the game, hitting an enemy would count as a miss. Not sure if that's a reference to that.
That might have to do with number overflows. Not entirely sure, but it reminds me of how you can go from level 255 in Pokemon to level 1 in gen 1.
@@Dorked As Asriel stated about Chara, when everyone's stats become so high, no one will be able to harm anyone, nor will they become able to get harmed themselves. If you increase your numbers and increase the enemy's numbers so much, the battle cannot be solved using violence.
Since I just completed Freedom Planet 2 any idea if you can do vids on the characters?
18:30 William Afton in FNaF 6:
The song he meant was Somebody That I Used to Know lol I’m surprised you don’t know it haha
OH... I think I just didn't know who made the song? Interesting.
Happy birthday undertale
Im really curious now is Undyne vegetarian?
I cant recall if Ive ever seen her mention eating anything with meat in it before, when you cook with her theres no meat for the spaghetti just some fruits/veggies and noodles, and now this vegetarian stargazy pie, i think it be very interesting and cool if she was vegetarian! Tho i might just be reading to much into this
Lore of TONS of Unused Deltarune Content! | Undertale Anniversary Newsletter momentum 100
is it bad dorked has the best asriel voice
next to starbot dubs
14:45 Mousimillian is real
Yeah, I just forgot 'cause it'd been a while since I played chapter 2.
Call it- ch3 & 4 coming early 2025 surely
For me Ive been deliberating why toby included the chara and asriel letter because first of all, the conclusion paragraph as a whole is formatted exactly like the mysterious gaster valentine, along with the odd existential questions (does it make you happy?) and odd spacing, implying that gaster or whoever wrote that valentine dropped this chara lore. First of all, if this is true that means that the mysterious writer IS gaster because who else has access to this Undertale lore? Secondly, the fact that Chara is being brought up at all when we're on the hunt for deltarune lore implies that Chara is significant to deltarune lore, when many thought that they werent a part of it at all. Perhaps the second voice that cuts into the vessel creation at the end (the one who throws your creation away and talks in normal font instead of all caps).
Thanks for reading my yap session I was freaking out over this newsletter all night so I needed to get my thoughts out lol
Please let more news be from gaster in the void😊
Oh god is undertale is already 9
IT IS. I FEEL OLD...