Canon 90D VS Canon R6 - Strengths and Weaknesses from An Owner
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Instead of me telling you the 90D and R6 are the best cameras in the world and you should go buy either of them, lets talk about some of their weaknesses you should know about before buy.
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ANOTHER BRILLIANT piece of educational information... As a 90D owner, my experiences have been great because of THIS channel. (and I am considering the R6 for a first mirrorless)
You do a great job Michael! Thanks for all your videos!
Spot on review, I’ve found that you have to work to get the 90D to get the results you want. However this is an excellent way to improve your photography. Funnily enough I’m looking for a second body and the R6 is foremost in my sights. This is interesting as there will be no 1st & 2nd body, each has its advantages and I believe will compliment each other perfectly.
Thank you for showing the pros and cons. No matter how hard they are to hear they are important parameters when deciding to spend a lot of money on gear.
Sometimes my videos are disliked by current owners when I do this, but I feel being honest for those who have not purchased yet is more important. Thanks for the support!
@@MMaven How do camera manufacturers justify the price of such expensive cameras when they have issues especially when camera bodies depreciate?
@@Ydkoll It all depends on what these cameras can offer. The bugs are usually fixed over time
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Hi Michael, I´m thinking of upgrading to a 90D from my trusty Rebel T6i, though now I´m a little concerned about what you said concerning resolution and lenses with the 90D. I mainly shoot macro with the Tamron 90mm f2.8 (the latest one). I also use the EFS STM 55 - 250 mm for longer reach, the EFS 24mm f2.8, and the EF 50mm f1.8 STM. Would I need to worry about upgrading my lens collection? Budget is a big factor in my photography. Thanks in advance for your advice.
I've used the 90D since it came out, and I recently decided to give a Lumix a try (G95). The thing that drives me crazy is the cropping. I got used to the crop of an APS-C, but I wasn't prepared for the even bigger crop of the MFT.
Coming from an 80D, I was torn between these two. I was convinced a full frame would bring me closer to the sharp quality travel, wildlife, nature, and portrait photos I was hoping for from my 80, but the 90 has many improvements over the 80. But the 90 is another cropped sensor. I’m just torn. Thanks for this video. You’re a great teacher. Subscribed.
If you can't get sharp enough images out of an 80D you should consider if the quality of your lenses is good enough. For instance, are you using a convenient superzoom instead of two or more zoomlenses to cover the same range? As Michael pointed out, upgrading to the 90D is pointless if you do not use quality lenses on them. I have used camera's with much lower pixel counts than the 80D and got sharp images nonetheless. Other things to check: are you using the correct IS mode on your lens, is the lens clean, do you have a cheap uv filter on the lens?
@@prjw73 All good points. quality glass can make an older camera like new again.
I have both of these now after upgrading to the R6. The 90D once you change a few of the settings is great for sports photography. I'm excited to try the R6. Great video btw. :)
How was the R6 i want to know your review becuase i am very confused between 90d and R6. Which one i should get?
@@loveKhattra The R6 is amazing! Having said that, I’m struggling with the rolling shutter effect I get with fast photography - distortion is prevalent. I have also returned the R6 due to the Error 70 I have got a lot hoping Canon can fix. My 90D is a work horse and never fails me. My pics look better out of the R6 but reliability is frustrating.
I can't tell you how much I value your view in this area. I plan on purchasing the 90d for stills. Further research told me the 90d has two versions of 4k with one having no crop! However I want a full frame. Being as the the new r series hhad overheading issues upon release i began to look at Sony and Panasonic for video. Though the 90d has great video " in my opinion " recortime became the other issue i need addressed. For " me and my needs " you've confirmed my research results when it comes to video. Thank you so much this unbias share ...
First thank you so much for this video it really helped me! I am planning on buying a 90d because 1200$ is my maximum budget and i am intrested in wildlife photography and wildlife filmmaking i saw it might be the best offer for the price, but i had a question, if i get the sigma 150-600mm contemporary lens will i have any issues? Thank you!
Just for the record on battery life. I shoot the r5 with a grip. I recently when to a 5-hour shooting event with two NH batteries in my grip. I got 9900 shots off those two batteries while still getting the full 12 fps! i went ahead and changed to my second set just to make sure i would not drop out of H+ green (12 fps)! I finished that day with 11,000+ shots. This was bird photography and I was purposely trying to put the camera through its paced. I also shot in craw and had two 256 GB cards in the camera. So, I’m thinking that for most people staying in 12 fps mode is not going to be hard provided you aren’t chimping too much. One shoud definitely use the newer NH battery to get the best performance.
I just got the r6 and after watching ur video weeks ago, I can say that the r6 is by far better than any dslr I've used in the past. The eye auto focus/lock on tracking and customizable back focus buttons make the r6 so easy to use and I rarely miss a shot now! I shoot a ton of indoor sports photography and they evf makes a world of difference. Also I've been using the tamron 70-200 2.8 and tamron 28-75 2.8 incase anyone was wondering. Btw the low light capability is unbelievable! If anyone shoots any low light/indoor photography, and your wanting to upgrade, just go with the r6. You won't regret it. I haven't touched the r5 so I can't vouch for it but I'm guessing the r6 does a little better in low light bc it has lower mp. Also I've cropped in on some of my low light pictures and it still looks great. 20 mp is plenty unless your blowing up past 20x30! Also, I'm not sure what version you used on the video side, but I used 30 mins of 4k 30 in 85 degree weather last and it didn't over heat once and it looked great. There is a 30 min cut off bc of the software tho. I just thought I would give an update on the r6 for people who is on the fence about the r6. This was my 1st mirrorless camera and I don't see ever going back to dslr. Thanks for the video btw.
hey .is the micro hdmi an issue with the R6 while livestreaming
@@awesomecool8225 I've actually never tried live streaming anything. Come to think of it, I've never even used the hdmi at all. Sorry I couldn't help.
@@alivia4907 no worries..thnks!
hi ... the overheating of the r6 is a big deal??
@@LL-xk3eu it hasn't overheated on me b4 but I don't do alot of video work. I've used it for several hrs straight in a hot very hot gym with no problems. Again shooting all stills
I have the original Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS (version 1) Do I have to worry about resolving power like the 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS I lens on the 90D?
Very informative video as always! I'm planning to use the sigma 18-35 art on the 90d. Is that lens good enough for the resolution of the 90d?
Did not know that lack of sharpness when using the same old lenses used in the 80D for example. I have been using the 80D since 2016 and I am thinking of upgrading to the 90D or the R. I mostly use the sigma 17-50mm 2.8. Will I loose sharpness with that lens on the 90D compared to the 80D? Is is only on photos or video too?
Thank you. As a result, I will go to R5.
If a lens is micro adjusted for use on the 90D does it then not focus correctly on other cameras? Do micro adjusted lenses become compatible only to whichever camera that they are micro adjusted to?
hi, I have limited resources + there's high resolving lenses shortage. Should i switch to 80D? currently I'm using 90D with 55-250 ii ( non stm).
I need to choose between Canon 90d and Nikon d500. Could you do a video on them? Please🙏🏻
Question, does the 90d overheat even if you're recording to the Ninja V?
What are the right lenses?
I have a tamron 70-200
50m that I use in a T7i
Hay Michael I want to switch from the Canon 7D Mark II to a 90D or is the R6 better I do most still photography.
I shoot concerts with Sigma 17-50 2.8 and canon 70-200 2.8 ii on a T7i. Will these lenses be sharp on the 90D and will I see improvement over the T7?
So my sigma lenses from my canon 7d mark 2 wouldn’t do anymore? Then which camera sir I’m upgrading for video. No mounts please. I was thinking 90d but now that you mention full potential I need something else?
Is the 90d pixel density issue relevant to video or only to photo work? I use the 90d for 80% of my RUclips work on cheap lenses
R6 over heats. I would suggest to use 90d
I don't think so, I mean I still take great shots at night with the 90D, you just need to understand the camera bit better and I think any lens that lets you go as low as f2 would be good enough.
I’ve got the 90d and looking to upgrade for full forma mirrorless. But it looks the r6 is more for sport photography? I’m into portraits and street photography. Please help
please sir. I have a Tamron 18-400 lens, is it good with a Canon 90d camera?
Can I use my TAMRON SP 70-200MM F/2.8 DI VC USD G2 and my TAMRON SP 24-70MM F/2.8 DI VC USD G2 on this Canon 90D?
I use the 90d with the Sigma 150-600 Con. for approx. 9 month for wildlife (bird, animals) photography. It doesn‘t work well. Sometimes good, in many cases not. Mostly blury images. Very few details on hair or feathers. I‘m not sure whether to change the camera or the lens.
Such long lenses to be used with correct f points else images will be blurry. You can change lens if needed.
Well thanks for the info I think I have something coming for my 90d I have the Canon 80d trying to get sport Sigma lens
Hi. Can you recommend an eos rp over 90d? Thanks.
I’m looking to upgrade to and R5 imagine quality compare to the 90D is to worth it in your opinion?
Is there a possibility my Tamron 100-400 will be inadequate when upgrade to a 90D?
Would the Canon 70-200mm f/2.8 ii be good for the 90d?
Great vid, do you think they will make a 6d mk III or 5d mk V? If not do you think they will make a eos R mkII or rp mark II?
I think most everything moving forward is going to be Mirrorless except maybe a 1DX version
Loving the Canon 90D, shoot alot with it and some client work. But I've been thinking about going Mirreless and Full Frame. Any feed back from people who switch would be amazing.
Same here 😢
Hi Michael, how about the Canon lens f2.8 17-55mm on Canon 90D? I've been using it since last few weeks for videos but I feel sharpness is not there. Would you recommend this lens?
I have the 17-55/2.8 and it’s awesome. I also have the 16-35/4 and can’t tell the difference between them, but the 17-55 will give you the extra light for speed.
As a Canon 90D purchase has been on my mind for some time as an upgrade from my old 700d I was interested to stumble across your videos about potential softness and focus issues by using certain lenses - my budget and lens collection is modest with canon 85mm 1.8, 50mm 1.8, 75-300mm and 18-55mm kit lens - so it makes me wonder whether I would notice issues in my portrait and headshot work or my products shots and videos ? Would it may make more sense to go for a lesser upgrade to say the Canon 850D - what do you and your viewers think about this?
Thanks so much!
John
London UK
i too am upgrading my 70D to the 90D but im torn between this and the R6... ugghhh. Choices choices lol
@@StevenM801 indeed and now R7 is my best bet, stick with APSC
Amazing info!!🎉
Thanks for sharing. Which lenses are high resolving? What do I look out for?
newer L series
For some sports where you are switching locations very often I'd love to use an EVF, I've used the 1dx, 1dx ii and leica Q2 and the image isn't as sharp in the EVF but seeing the lighting real time is so helpful
Obviously didn't use the Q2 for sports but still found the EVF useful in all kinds of situations
If I had to pick I'd get the EVF
Is Sigma 17-50 f2.8 going to work well on the 90d?
Please more info on the 80d thanks
Does an added monitor(Ninja V) eliminate the heating issues with longer video shooting times with the 90D?
Yes
i have a canon 100-400 rf lens will it fit a 90D camera
I’ve been watching a lot of reviews and everyone who talks about the 90D seems to like it even if they talk a lot about it’s negatives they seem to shrug them off and just admit they just like it more than the flaws might suggest they should. I’m sold
Yeah I agree.
Which would you recommend for mainly motocross photography? But also good for portrait. Looking to upgrade from a 70d
Hey I’m looking to get into photography because of motocross as well!
I have the RP I am wondering if I should upgrade to r6 or wait for rp mark II
What kind of shooting do you do? The R6 is just amazing if you can live with the 20 MP and the overheating on video.
What is a good lens for Canon 90 D EOS DSLR?
I think the only thing to say here is it would be great to own BOTH
THESE CAMERAS, because they don't really compare very well in terms of
usage: we know the 90D is going to be best used outdoors and with
available light, and the R6 can do it all but probably best shines
indoors, low-light, event work with or without flash etc.
This digital stuff is really complicated. I start to wonder is shooting on old fashioned film camera's a lot easier and less prone to soft images?
You say need newer lenses . But do you have a complete break down on good and bad lenses.
Very important note: Every lens will resolve equally well or better on the 90D than on the older cameras! But not every lens will be able to make full use of the sensor’s potential, which means that the images may look softer on the 90D if you pixel peep. But that is only because you enlarge the image more than you’ll be able to do on the older cameras. So even if the 90D picture looks softer when you pixel peep, it will not look softer if printed to the same size.
Please make a video of what you are trying to explain. Mine is here:The Basics Of Diffraction and Airy Disks | How Sensors Out Resolve Lenses | Physics of Pixel Pitch
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@@MMaven Thanks for the video link - I’ve seen it before. Very interesting, and in its own way very relevant too, as to why the images may appear to be softer on the 90D. But not, I think, relevant to why the images aren’t really softer.
You want me to make a video? Sadly that’s not going to happen for reasons I can’t give you here.
For me the logic seems simple, but I don’t think I can explain it any better, so let me instead give you a challenge:
Take, if you will, as closely as possible, the same image twice using the Canon 100-400 version 1 mounted to two different cameras: the 90D and a lower resolution camera - preferably the 80D to compare apples to apples. Make a print of both pictures. You can choose any print size you like, but the size must be the same for both pictures. Then show me how the print from the 90D is worse than the print from the older camera. My prediction is that both prints will either be of the same quality or, more likely, that the print from the 90D will be slightly better.
Hi, I’ve stumbled down the rabbit hole of wanting to replace/upgrade my camera. I currently have a (now discontinued) canon 200d which was perfect for my first ever camera. Mainly used for video and some photography. Now I’m really , really REALLY needing some advice … deciding whether to go for canon 90d, canon mark 5d iv, or canon R7 . The R7 looks attractive to me because of : the autofocus capabilities and the newer technology that come with mirrorless , I’m scared because of not knowing how to use it compared to my traditional camera , I’m embarrassed to say I have only ever used auto on my camera but I’m going to learn how to use manual. Also slightly worried about the ‘overheating’ rumours/problems with mirrorless, but apparently shouldn’t be an issue if I don’t intend to do shoot 30min + .. I’m interested in the canon mark iv because it seemed EVERYONE thinks it’s a beast and amazing but then after research I saw it’s better primarily for photography AND it doesn’t have a flip out screen (a feature I currently have and love) and then obviously the 90d …. I think is a really really good option as it’s a step up (several steps) to what I have and probably the most familiar one I’d be used to .. just scared of thinking the R7 is more superior I think is my problem… would really appreciate your thoughts. FYI I’m an amateur ..
Wonderful Mr maven, will share ;)
I currently have a canon 90d that I love. Although I am considering switching to a r6 with an adaptor.
I can attest that the 90d has zero forgiveness on any focusing errors, lens issues, etc; It's great when ya nail a shot however! It does take more work in post at times.
Very interesting information
Is it possible to use focus peaking on a 90D when in photo mode? Cant find the setting!
Love your channel!
Unless Magic Lantern gets ported to the 90D, na.
The 90D has focus peak in live view, works great with manual focus lenses. I just used it this way for some close up, detailed macro shots.
i shoot weddings and use the R6 as my main body, my 2nd body was the R but it crapped out on me. I was thinking of getting the 90D, what do you think? i only use EF L lenses
R6 or R6ii for the win
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Great photography and next level video. This coming from a 90d owner. And for what I do I love my 90d and Canon C100 MKII.
I am very happy with the 90d, but noise is often a problem even on lower iso like 400 or 800.
If you are having noise the low it could be your lens. I use the sigma 18-35 1.8 and I can get up to 1000 or more without much noise.
VERY INFORMATIVE...❤
Been shooting wildlife on the 90d with the 100-400mm ii Canon, never microadjusted. Used an older 50-250 canon ef-s and the pics were fine. Not as good as newer lenses like the kit 18-135 but the latter lens is just a better lens. Never had an overheating problem with any shooting mode. I do not shoot over 2500 iso due to noise, but that’s me. I shoot birds and wildlife and anything else I find interesting to snap a pic of. I love details especially in feather patterns. 90d is amazing.
What about for video purposes...Can you share your thoughts on that based on your experience with the 90d?
Hi Mark, thanks for the lovely comparison. Is it just the battery not being fully charged that won't give 12fps, or from what I have heard from another R6 reviewer he said even the older version of the Canon EF lenses may contribute to not getting that 12fps, he also mentioned it needs newer battery as opposed to what you are saying is a fully charged battery. Bit confused, your input is much appreciated. Thanks
You need the new battery at 60% or greater to achieve 12 FPS
@@MMaven so the older version of lenses don’t affect the 12fps mechanical shutter?
@@Mr48374837 The older batteries will not be able to achieve 12 frames per second even at full charge, It will be much less
@@MMaven thanks a lot. Appreciate your help.
What lenses are both compatible and budget with the 90d inorder to get sharp images
My guess is the Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 but make sure you have the lens docking station for calibration. Most of them are good out the box but I have seen some complaints about it needing calibration for focus.
Thanks. You make it sound like your pictures will get softer if you switch from an 80D to a 90D and don't upgrade lenses. Is that really true, or do you really mean that you only need to get better lenses if you want to see the INCREASED resolution available in the 90D? Wouldn't you get at least the same resolution w 90D vs 80D with the same lens?
Obviously resolution and viewing size do matter, but it has to do with pixel density and the ability of a lens to resolve the sensor. With the older zooms, yes, you will get softer images on the 90D at 100% for example with the 100-400 v1, than you would with it on say an 80D. Put a v2 on the 90D, and it knocks it out of the park with sharpness. I made a video on thiscCalled Basics of Diffraction that explains it.
@@MMaven Thanks for the reply. I watched your diffraction video. I also watched this one, which seems to disagree with you.. he says that you'll get some increased sharpness wirh a higher res sensor than a lower one, even if not as much as you'd hoped. He gives examples. I'm still not totally convinced either way but can do my own experiments since I have a 70D and a 90D at the moment. Though yes, I would like to get a nice Canon lens. Thanks again.
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@@maitland1007 can you tell me if the 24mm 2.8 STM lens and the Sigma 18-300 will work ok on the Canon 90d I just picked this camera up and I am hearing alot about you have to have expensive Len's.
@@dougdavis5808 I shoot with the 90d and the sigma 18-300 with no focus issues. That lens is on the newer sigma lineup. While it’s a lower quality lens that the canon L glass i haven’t had soft image issues.
I have the 90d, I can't afford expensive lenses should I stick with my camera now or should I down grade and get the 80d and invest in a better lens with the money I save? Thank you! Great video.
I use the 90d , and some of my best shots came from my 18-55 kit lens from my rebel t5. You just have to nail focus. At first i struggled. The more you use the camera the more you’l get to know it. Stick with it and keep practicing
@@timothylabrecque8589 I ended up returning it and saving 500$ with the 80d, not really any difference but I see more sharpness with the 80d despite less quality
How about 90D VS R7? That would be very Interesting
One suggestion for people that want to do a lot of video with R6. Get an Atomos Ninja. This will negate the overheating issues talked about in the video.
I still had issues with it
What would be the best lens to use with the 90D for photography I do a lot of lifestyle
SIGMA 18 - 35 .. WORKS FOR ME
SUPER SHARP , BUT NO IMAGE STABILIZER
i had the 90D for 3 months for me its great value though for hybrid shooter but i was shooting wildlife and landscape so i disappointed with Dynamic range from the sensor even at lower iso like 500 if you have proper light on subject then its way clean and sharper if not its not much usable. i was a Nikon d750 shooter and never seen any noise on lower iso even in my D3100.
It's not shutter lag, the black-out is(it almost literally HAS to be) worse on any DSLR, because of the mirror. What you're seeing is a little bit of latency because the image has to be processed and then shown on the EVF. The auto-focus is not even open for comparison. The R6 is, by pretty much all accounts, better than the 1D-X ii.
20 MP not enough.? Pros using 1DX mk2 and 3..
hi i do birds the most of the time i bought the R6 whit the 800mm f 11,,i would say that in low light at full focus lenght my old 80d whit the 100/400 f 5/6 is doing better than the r6 , and some times the
R6 changes focus ,i heard other have that problem too,at full focus lenght the pictures are not always realy shaely sharp and some bluur ,dont know if that is the camera or the lens ,there is a lot a people saying that the 20m pixels is not a problem ,in wildlife i think it is , whyen the R7 comes out i will take a closer look at it and maybee sell my R 6 best from ib
The 90d is a perfectly fine camera for what it was designed to do. For an old grandpa like me, I’m just looking to get excellent family photos. Holidays, get togethers, grandson’s T-ball (no fast movement there with 4 year olds 😂). The 4k is awesome and my Canon 24-105mm f/4 (L), Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8, and even my 18-135mm STM all result with sharp photos. The STM lens isn’t L glass sharp but it’s pretty good. It is church mouse quiet and lightening quick with its autofocus.
I recorded a personal memorial documentary of my 80 year old parents with the 90d. The first session was about 1 hour and I recorded externally into a Ninja Blade with no problems. I also have a Shogun Inferno. I added the double battery grip and I have good recording times.
Don’t get me wrong, if I were a professional, I’d have the R6 but I’m good and this is the last camera I’ll buy.
No question the Tamron newest generation lenses will work fine. How can 20mp not be enough. Pros have been using way less for the last 15 years.
Maybe it’s not enough because with that price you can buy a camera with higher pixels
There's more to a camera than how many megapixels it has, but manufacturers use megapixels like a hook on the end of a fishing line. If you take two images of the same subject, one with a 20 mpx camera and one with a 45 mpx camera, and make an 11×14 inch print of each, they will be identical. No one could tell the difference. Only when you got to really large prints would the 20mpx camera image start to break up. If you routinely make huge prints, or routinely crop small areas of an image and blow them up, maybe you will benefit from the 45mpx. Otherwise, you will never see the difference. An image isn't "better" because it has more megapixels, it can simply be blown up larger. There are tens of thousands of 8x12, 11x14, 16x20 and even 20x30 prints taken with 8, 10, 12 and 16 mpx cameras (and 35 mm film) hanging in galleries around the world. 30,45 and 60 mpx cameras didn't even exist until relatively recently. That never stopped photographers from making beautiful images.
20mp is more than enough for both landscape and portrait, has been since we reached 10mp.
I've owned the 90D for about a year and continue to struggle with sharpness and focus of erratic fast moving and fast moving subjects. This presentation clearly explains both issues. My primary subject area are wildlife. I use a variety of Canon and Sigma lenses. I've performed lens calibrations, created custom settings, etc to improve performance. I don't want to give up on the 90D, nor do I want to spend thousands on new lenses. I'm considering sending the 90D and my Sigma lenses to Sigma for calibration.
did you turn off itr face tracking in custom menu?
excellent analysis!
Damn. I guess my Sigma 70-200mm F2.8 EX DG Macro HSM II probably won't work too well with the 90d.
Dear wiseguy, I think Michael sent the wrong message. Generally higher pixel density result in higher detail, unless it is limited by the lens quality. But You have a perfectly great lens and camera body.
what about canon Macro 100mm 2.8 L IS USM with canon 90D?
Where can I find your high resolution lenses list for canon 90D? Thank you Michael
@@mojbahadori9643 Its on my blog: www.michaelthemaven.com/?postID=5117&canon-90d-m6ii-lenses-which-have-enough-resolving-power-which-do-not
Love the voice - sounds like Gru trying to be a bit more American... sorry Brit humour. great content though. (ordered the R6)
Great comparisons! Based solely on budget, I would probably go with the R6 and try to get some of Canon's older USM lenses. I feel as if the lens selection on the 90D is very limited, especially for the EF-S platform, so I might as well try to save money on lenses with a camera better suited to take advantage of not as sharp lenses, which are plentiful on the secondary market. Mind you, I approach both of these cameras in the mindset of the casual shooter who is probably looking at an upgrade from an older APS-C camera. $2,600 is quite a lot for that camera buyer, but they may even have some lenses like the 85 f/1.8, 50 f/1.4, or 35 f/2 that make the costs more or less even out once you look at adding, say, a 400mm f/5.6 or the older 100-400mm zoom, in which case you get a more all-around camera in the R6 with more lenses than if you had gone with the 90D and have to toss out some of your older glass for newer options. Then, having the R6 even sets you up for crossing into the RF lenses later as they adopt more consumer-friendly models and prices.
Your logic is sound. I have both bodies and love the R6, while I just like the 90d. I have 8 lenses, 4 being "L" series and on the approved 5DS/R list, so I can't blame the lenses resolving power for my lack of WOW feeling when reviewing the images, when compared to the same exact test conditions while swapping bodies on a tripod. (all settings/factors/lighting identical with just the cameras tripod distance to subject tripod adjusted for crop factor) If I had the 100-400 ii I would likely be more ecstatic about the 90d, but that lens is down on my priority list due to subject matter; in comparison to portraits, landscape, architectural subjects, and cars. R6 battery life sucks though! lol (I never shoot video on either camera)
Waiting on what I hope will be the R7. R6 too low pixels for cropping. Price a touch high. R5 to pricey. Too many heating issues. Cards too high. Files too big.
is 90D worth to buy?
I've found 20mp is more than enough for portrait photography and for large prints.
I took a family photo that was enlarged to a 40”x30” canvas. It looked awesome hanging on their living room wall. The photo was taken with a Canon 8.2mp 30D!
@@paulsimmonds2030 It's not that more megapixels are overrated, they have many advantages. But 20 megapixels are definitely underrated for what they are capable of. I do 20×30 for clients all the time off my R6. Used to do them off my 1d mark iv (16 mpx. for those who don't remember). Beautiful results, and never a complaint. The big advantage of the 6 is the clean images, even at high ISO. I rented the R6 ii just to try it out and was disappointed that ISO performance took a hit.
Michael did you ever make those larger ND filters? I was waiting for 82 mm
Yes- I literally just received a few production runs. Which ones are you wanting?
@@MMaven i was waiting to buy a 6 and maybe a 10 in 82mm for the gmaster 16-35
@@longrider9551 Ill email you directly. These are pre-release.
Lumix G90 is also very good for video - unlimited time too
the 90D is a beast! throw a Sigma 18-35 and you're shooting some spectacular shots!
Hi how about the Canon 24 mm STM 2.8 and the Canon 50mm 1.8 and the Sigma 18-300 do you know if these Len's work well? With the Canon 90d
Unfortunately the sigma on mine is hit or miss. Lots of focus issues even after lens calibration. It's very inconsistent. When it works it's amazing but the focus system is a real problem with this camera
@@jjtomasella auto focus sucks. Manual baby! lol
The 90D also has focus peaking in live view - it nails it using manual focus.
Thank you for saving me...probably...thousands of dollars. Please, please, please don't refer to clear identification of functional trade-offs as "negative" comments. No comment is "negative" if it is fact-based and value-delineating. Your video was very helpful to my decision-making!
For alot of video recording get a quality 4k camcorder.
never overheats.
If you blow the image of 90D 1:1 compared to 70D, of course 90D will be softer because you zoom in more. But if you print or analyze the images from both cameras at the same size, 90d will have more detail. Higher pixel density will always result in more detail. If "not" then why landscape photographer choose high megapixel cameras? I think you need to do more thorough test before sending the wrong messages.
He spoke on a social media group who uses the 90d and he gathered some of their opinions as well.
The 90d is more like a Swiss Army knife or Leatheman of DSLRs. The R6 was built for a different purpose and is more for the pro-mirrorless shooter.
If you have several EF lenses and didn’t want to chunk them into the trash, then you have the 90d as an option. Save some money and get some EF (L) glass off eBay or pay premium.
The mirrorless cameras are sweet but go check out the price of lenses. If you have that long money, then it’s not a problem. If you’re a pro shooter, I’d say the R6 because of where we are with mirrorless cameras.
If you are a weekend photo warrior, the 90d is just fine for what it was designed to do. You have to use it and get better until your skill surpasses its specifications. Just my two pennies
Welcome back long time to see you
Well that settles it. I am getting an R5
You wont be disappointed :)
Lumix G9 user here.
I can't believe now we consider a 20mp sensor isn't enough. Why on earth would anyone need more than that? Cropping...? Not convinced, crop in camera.
Viewing? It's more than enough on a 4k monitor. Gigantic prints? How often do you make these? How often do we print in the first place?
The 1DX M3, a 5k$+ camera has 20mp and it's a state of the art cutting edge sports camera. Isn't that enough?
The ultimate truth? Value perception. Is 20 megapixels enough for most print purposes? Yes. (If you are not cropping). However there are some real advantages in being able to crop as much as needed, but the real issue here is the perception of value when delivering images to a client. As a client would you rather hear these files are 20 megapixels each or these files are 45 super high resolution images? Over the life for five years that perception value is impactful
@@MMaven well, thanks to the new Samsung s21 104megapixels, the average Joe would think 20mp is meagre. Thank God as a photographer I should know better.
If it's up to clients, you're not a photographer unless you have a full frame or better, a 150mp Phase One.
@@ofmetalphilosophy4837 Thats right, there is a difference between actual value and perceived value, unfortunately, in the mind of the customer, perceived value is King.
@@MMaven it would be interesting to know your opinion about the school of photography channel video in which they compared the Olympus em1 ii 20mp to the 30mp 5DIV in terms of super large prints. Have you seen it?
@@ofmetalphilosophy4837 I haven't. Sounds like a different topic though.
I wanted to buy this camera , I was confuse between canon 90D and canon R6 , after see your video I decided to buy MacBook Air laptop now
It being 2023 now, hopefully you looked at some additional reviews. Sony & Panasonic have some good mirrorless cameras at the 90d’s price point. Personally, the 90d holds up for what it was designed to do and you get to keep your EF glass. You can get better Canon L series glass at a bargain used now.
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If you want to rely on autofocus the panasonics are not up to the task.