TYT Tempers FLARE Over Netanyahu's Rejection Of Two-State Solution
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- Опубликовано: 18 янв 2024
- Benjamin Netanyahu said, “Israel must be able to say no,” when it comes to the Biden admin's call for a two-state solution with Palestine. Cenk Uygur, Ben Gleib and Ramesh Srinivasan discuss on The Young Turks.
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"Benjamin Netanyahu forcefully pushed back on the Biden administration’s support for a separate Palestinian state, saying “Israel must be able to say no,” even to the United States.
The Israeli Prime Minister made the following statement on the idea of a two-state solution, which CNN edited for brevity:
The state of Israel must control the security of all the land which is west of the Jordan river. That is a truth that I’m saying to our friends the Americans and I have blocked an attempt to force upon us a reality which will hurt the security of Israel. The prime minister in Israel must be able to say no, even to the closest of our friends."
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Ben is ridiculously dumb
Yep. 👍
Hes right
If you’re a lib
"Germany did not commit genocide because Germany was at war." That's the argument Ben just made here.. This hurts my brain to watch.
Yikesssssss
Israeli Zionists will twist themselves into pretzels to justify their atrocious inhumanity in public outside Israel. If he was inside Israel he'd be like, "Pffft! Palestinians? So what? Who cares?"
Yes, Ben's Genocidal argument is dumb.
His blind devotion to the State of Israel makes him not see the truth right in front of him.
Germany's genocide against the jews was during a time of war but was not part of the war. If people claimed that civilian casualties against the Allies caused by the Germans during battles were 'genocidal' then that would make sense but nobody claims that. The holocaust was committed away from the fighting and had nothing to do with trying to defeat an enemy. The problem with this conflict is that from the Palestinian side, this is a holy war, it's nothing about being oppressed it's about winning a war against the Jews for Islam and reclaiming land that was once held by Islamic empires. Their leaders are also calling for the deaths of Jews who are outside of Israel and have nothing to do with the conflict. The Palestinian leadership (Hamas) wants to kill Jewish civilians again and again and again until they are wiped off the earth... it makes sense that Israel is taking a hard stance and not being careful about civilian casualties when fighting people with these extreme beliefs (who also fire rockets out of hospitals and schools btw).
"Not one person has been displaced out of Gaza" Benjamin. Is this man crazy?
Condemning Israeli war crimes is not antisemitic, its a duty
Do you condemn Hamas?
He’s so whiny, trying to accuse Cenk of having a double standard against Israel by not caring when America does egregious things, even though Cenk has spent over a decade and countless hours critiquing America.
Cenk needs to critique us in some Arab country, not here. If he's so critical what the eff is he doing here.
Ben is absolutely out of his mind. If he thinks this is not a genocide, the whole world sees what’s going on.
It is wild to listen to him deny what we have all been seeing for since October: A brutal genocide by a fascist apartheid government, supported by the USA, UK, France, and Germany.
It’s not genocide it’s love baby
You should google what genocide means.
Biden is extremely insensitive discussing a palestinian state in the middle of a hostage crisis
@@agermanviewpoint7467 you should heed your own advice...
Cenk looks like an angry Fred Flintstone.
Lol! 🤣
ben is a joke tho... he sound like a 8 yr old with a beard
an 8 year old boy has more brain and sense than him
Imagine thinking the IDF SOLDIER was MURDERED and the Palestinian civilians are just collateral damage. What an absolutely nauseating person.
I was glad Cenk called that out. I’m not a fan of his debate style generally, but he made several good points to counter Ben’s disgusting rhetoric
Let Cenk be Cenk. Who gaf if you don't like his style. He's correct!
What a bloated ego
@@TMFJ747 "Who gaf if you don't like his style. He's correct!"
Optics matter. Merely being correct got us Donald Trump.
"What a bloated ego"
Ironically, you just described Cenk.
@@synchronium24 what did Cenk ever do to you?
You sound hurt.
The apologist for Israeli is in TOTAL denial. There are absolutely no Israeli atrocities that count as war crimes, in his twisted view!
Mohaumad had a child lover. Justice for Aisha (she was 6). Palestine will be free... Free from Hamas and palestinians. From the River to the Sea Israel is all that will be. 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱
You are only siding against Israel because they are winning but you neglect that Gaza is shooting at Israel this whole time
@@Porter-88 Human Rights Watch has documented many cases of r@pe of Palestinian children in "administrative detention" (really HOSTAGES), in Israeli detention centres. And they are occurring NOW.
@@bl3627 lolz no, Israel is making a power play to remove the population of Gaza by taking advantage of a terror attack that they were warned about in advance. 11k children dead is going back to Dresden type causalities, 23 hospitals? Half of the countries infostructure. There are the people who have been fooled by the "human shields" propaganda talk, and there are the people who can think for themselves and see right through it.
@@Porter-88 this has nothing to do with religion, since both both religions are based on the same Abrahamic god that's been debunked why would you assume it did? Stay on topic.
free palestine
15:05 “Voluntary displacement” after destroying everything they had and not allowing food and medicines to get in.. these people must be crazy or they believe we are all stupid.
Ben's in a cult.
He got the "Tel Aviv tour." lol
You all heard what Ben said, right? He said if 10,000 Palestinians were killed, 9,000 of them were Hamas. So far, about 10,000 children have been killed in Gaza. So 9,000 of them were Hamas, right Ben?
lolz 11k, insane.
There is no point in talking to Ben and his kind
Jesus this is not easy to talk about this shit.
@@imrankh68 Sadly you’re right. He’s too entrenched to recognize his own cognitive dissonance
Ben is an absolute idiot...does he even reflect on what he's saying? He's only good to spew out his biased immoral and contradictory viewpoints! He clearly is ignorant when it comes to the definition of genocide
Absolutely Cenk Netanyahu doesn't want Palestinians people to stay there.
Ben is still on TYT? Get rid of that shill already
If Ben is really concerned about his safety, why go to Israel for 10 days? There are orphaned innocent Palestinian children with no surviving family, how scared must they be? They have no where safe to go. If the people in Israel are worried about their safety, they can go to the airport, pull out their other passports to wherever they have dual citizenship & leave. I understand Ben is passionately defending his heritage, but this intergenerational hate has to stop. I'm a 2nd generation Australian, with German, Irish/ Polish Jewish roots, we don't get to choose where we are born or our ancestry, but we can choose to learn from our history & we can choose to stop creating more hate & learn to forgive each other. We are all connected. These orphans can either grow up wanting revenge & passionately defending their heritage or grow up living in peace. They deserve to be free & to live in peace. Netanyahu is evil & only cares about himself.
Mind Begs the Question:
- Nazi Media defended Hitlers Policies,Starvation,Death Camps,Gas Chambers,Ethnic Cleansing,etc
- If a Media defends Starvation,Death Camps,White Phosphorus,Ethnic Cleansing,etc
- Not akin to Nazi Media?
Very well said. Such a false fantasy narrative by Ben. Israeli propaganda just regurgitated.
@@FloridaCoast you sound satanic. She said very reasonable, compassionate things. Your divisiveness seems evil.
@@FloridaCoast You're just lazy.
Mohaumad had a child lover. Justice for Aisha (she was 6). Palestine will be free... Free from Hamas and palestinians. From the River to the Sea Israel is all that will be. 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱
The fact that we are even discussing if a genocide is occurring, a genocide is probably occurring.
Effing right!
Genocide schmenocide. Give me a break. Repeating that "from the river to the sea" nonsense and not acknowledging that Israel exists and isn't going anywhere is the main reason Palestine will never be free. Peace will reign when palestinians start loving their children more than they hate the jews.
Wrong
Now consider that the more you accuse genocide the more likely it becomes. The accusations of genocide started immediately on Oct 7th before the IDF did anything. Consider that the word genocide is a propaganda weapon meant to stiffle debate, shut down conversation and end any possibility of resolution or peace.
The ICJ needs to HURRY up and make a decision. Civilians are still suffering and dying every day.
I disagree with 99.9% of cenk’s beliefs and find him annoying most of the time but he has my support on this one. Israel has gone way too fkn far and they’re not even trying to hide it.
I feel so bad for the guy on the left 🤣
Cry harder
"I recently heard that if you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes Israel "
(and just Jewish)
When Ben says " Israel always treats with morality"...😂😂
AIPAC💵💵😂
Mohaumad had a child lover. Justice for Aisha (she was 6). Palestine will be free... Free from Hamas and palestinians. From the River to the Sea Israel is all that will be. 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱
@@Porter-88 you sound satanic
@@Porter-88 : says the guy who is always high on magic mushrooms & who supoorts a fake state that takes in Paedophile Politicians from the USA..hey was wondering when you might show up.
By the way,...update yourself on the proper hadiths b4 making a fool of yourself mate.
And put down that hashish...yeah?
The same programmed talking points you hear from Aylon Levy and Mark Regev.
Over 9000 children killed. This guy is a clown.
War is Hell
Seriously, that is war . Middle ages sieges would cut all food and resources to win the battle . Flung dead animals into the city . Tactics in more modern wars involve burning fields around the target area in order to starve the population so the people would raise up and help the attackers . It's just how war is soyboy .
Cenk's best point was that you don't get to kill civilians because of the way they voted. That's international law. Ben's denial of that argument displays his ignorance of international law. Genocide perpetrators always have grievances, real or perceived, against their victims. The Germans thought they had justifiable reasons leading up to the Holocaust. The Allies thought they had strategically justified reasons for bombing Dresden civilians. That's why the Geneva convention and Rome Statute came into being. After the fog of war lifted, the world was able to see more clearly the horrors they had wrought. Ben's argument was entirely comprised of subjective unverified assertions and anecdote. The evidence of disproportionate killing of Palestinian civilians, homes, hospitals, schools, agriculture, water resources, etc. is indisputable, both in magnitude and in nature.
His point about that meaning Israeli civilians were fair game by Ben’s logic was a very powerful one
Since the advent of nuclear armaments, it is impossible to have a stable world without the threat of mass civilian loss integrated into the USs military policy, regardless of the Geneva convention
Cenk claims that evacuating civilians from a war zone, something required by international law, is ethnic cleansing
About that vote, Gaza's election was 17 years ago. Average age in Gaza is ~18 yrs old. Hamas came in with a plurality of 44% of that vote… lotta drama ensued… but it's not so simple. Hamas has been the governing body since, providing social welfare, etc. The military wing does what it does, no need to justify
Everything in your post is 💯 just thought I'd add that piece
*@adamsfamilyinfrance* I agree, Ben's right as usual.
Ben went from somebody who just had a different take, to a flat out racist
I totally agree, Ben has no issues with innocent lives of women, children, babies being murdered by the IDF, if this was reversed this clown would be yelling Genocide.
No innocent lives on either side should be lost.
I won't be watching TYT whenever this racist hypocrite presents the show.
I think Ben knows this didn't start on October 7th but will always justify Israel's actions, but guess what Ben? People weren't born yesterday.
I have never been so thoroughly disgusted by TYT for still allowing him to be on here with his disgusting view and propaganda for Israel for a murderer is thug regime TYT stood for something at some point I’m starting to lose faith in them as well. I understand the different viewpoint but this is straight up racism, and it disgusts the shit out of me
Totally agree. He just destroyed his integrity.
I wonder if they had him on pre-genocide to discuss Palestine or just other topics. I suspect he’s always been racist but this topic gets him so emotional he says the quiet part not just out loud, but at a scream. His statements about Indigenous Americans and others when relating them to Palestinians are just as crazy racist as his statements about Arabs
@@wayne9688 This Zionist terrorist supporter had an integrity?
Wow I really thought this was satire for a minute. Ben is really just using the classic talking points.
He seems to be paid, or engulfed in his identity and religion above humanity. Blinded by identity.
Let that guy go to Israel to live, keeping West Bank or he got house from Palestinian people, Palestinian people are not allowed to enter Israel settlement
Many of Ben's "facts" are easily disproven. Bring him back and calmly debunk his BS.
Yep. And bring Ana on too.
I don't think Cenk is capable of doing anything calmly.
He's a full on Zionist using arguments straight out the Hasbara handbook without any genuine thinking process.
You can't argue with a radical follower of a sect.
Literally none of what he said was addressed or debunked, because of course waging a war against the nation who perpetrated the most savage, brutal attack carried out against you in history is not a genocide or ethnic cleansing. If Israel wanted to, they could have deleted all of Gaza within a week. Muslims don't want to admit that their religion is genocidal and horrid.
@@meetings3071I would like to see Ana involved as well.
The conditions that Palestinians live in breeds insurgency.
Yeah, how did that quote go again? 'Those who make peaceful protest impossible will make violent revolution inevitable', or something like that.
So they denied Israel’s right to exist and waged war. Got their ass handed to them and rejected two state solutions while constantly doing terrorist acts.
What about when they were attacking Jews during the Ottoman Palestine? What were the reasons then? 🤔
@@sugerhitman1295 The Ottoman Turks were attacking everyone to expand their empire. Palestine was just another conquest.
@@SentaiYamaneko Arab Palestinians were already in Palestine before the Ottomans....and they were attacking Jews then....Was it because of the "Occupation"? 🤔
Just ask this guy where was Israel before 1948
Where was there an unbroken Jewish presence for 3,500 years? I'll give you a hint. It rhymes with Shlamestein, and it's also the answer to your question.
@@obediahpolkinghorniii564
after Saladin’s death, control of Jerusalem wavered back and forth between crusaders and Muslims with Jews being expelled EACH TIME THE CHRISTIANS GAINED CONTROL so it's well known and documented in history that jews lived peacefully alongside muslims.
for example when they were exterminated by the spanish inquisition (Alhambra Decree), Sultan Bayezid the second sent armies to save the jews from the catholic, he sent the Ottoman navy under the command of his Sea General Kemal Reis, he gave jews the permission to settle in the Ottoman Empire and become Ottoman citizens.
also in a different time period, at saladdin's time, Jews and Muslims had fought side by side defending Jerusalem and Haifa and were both slaughtered by the invading crusaders.
There were Arab Jews, Palestinian Jews, Basically Mizrahi Jews from the Middle East, North Africa, Asia, parts of the Caucasus etc. Living with Muslims in palestine.
After the H0locaust, the Jewish, Christian, Muslim Palestinians All welcomed the Ashkenazi jews with open arms, They didn't know Britian had another Plan to Create a Terrorist group (The Haganah for example) to Create the Artificial State known as israel, a Colony and an Army base in the Middle East under their Command, then it was Adopted by America
If you're a Jew you're Condemned BEYOND DEATH in the Christians' Bibles, But in the Quran it reminds the jews to keep the Sabbath and remember the Covenant and the Favor that was Bestowed upon you, if you don't have time to Read what The Quran says about the Children of israel i suggest you listen to Rabbi Tovia Singer about what the Quran says about the jews. Tell me who's the Enemy here? Criminal warlords and deep state Puppets like Biden and Netenyahu have an Atheistic/Marxist Ideology and Jews are being Used as bullet casings for the west, Because; why let our supreme Aryan Children fight when we can send jews to secure our Colony in the Middle East?
Being emotionally passionate to Palestine plea is not antisemite 😂😂😂
I love it when Cunk goes off the rails 😂😂😂
"Don't believe the Israeli ppl, don't believe ur eyes or independent reporting, don't believe other nations who were neutral on this(S.A.). Just believe me, it's not like I'm emotionally compromised" - Ben
Mohaumad had a child lover. Justice for Aisha (she was 6). Palestine will be free... Free from Hamas and palestinians. From the River to the Sea Israel is all that will be. 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱
@@Porter-88No toilets for tatti and no oxygen cylinders for Corona saar but phull sapport for Azrael saar
Btw Krishna was a tharki
I gotta say this guy ( Ben ) is absolutely oblivious to the logic that Israel is the aggressor and that the Gazans are the oppressed that are being killed in this Genocide. Are there no humanitarian boundaries in the minds of Israelis ?
Egypt controls a major border with Gaza. Duh. But let's recap, Egypt controlled gaza from 1948 -1967, no state. Then Israel took it over and was there until 2005, then? they withdrew and Hamas won the election. Now you call Israel the aggressor? LOL. Fact is regardless of you opinion hamas is being killed on a daily basis
You're confused.
The Israelis never said "All Arabs or Palestinians must die. They're a waste of space." Have you not heard Hamas proclaiming to the world that Jews don't have a right to exist? Israel never called for death of all non-orthodox Jews...worldwide. The Israeli are protecting the women and children as much as possible. Israeli's don't make their raison d'etre to kill ALL Pals from birth onward. Jews could NEVER live in Gaza, yet Pals live peaceably (many situations) in Israel, evidence that Israelis see Pals as people...worthy of life and equal rights. .
This is war on part of Israel. Genocide of Jews for Pals.
There is no logical, rational reason to call it any other way. To do so requires Olympic proportion mental gymnastics, AND an agenda.
I beg you to rethink your stance, for fear of a massive stroke or severe mental disability resulting from slamming desired scenario into reality. One of these things is not like the other 🤪.
Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib’s immigrant Palestinian parents had 14 children … very selfish mission of occupation
Another sign of Jewish repression and genocide.. LOLOLOLOLOL. 14 kids? LOLOLOLOL @@Dr_Jeff888
I love when Cenk gets all mad and red faced lol
Lol he's such a loud mouth clown
Lmfao @@billballinger5622
😂
Cenk is totally right on this one. This Ben guy is being totally delusional and in denial.
*@concernedcitizen9374* I agree, Ben's right as usual.
genocide denial
Ben is definitely a "inside job propaganda" at tyt videos. Cenk you must get rid of this delusional guy
@@ILoveAOC why do yall just let Israel label an adult male they kill as Hamas? You realize that's what they're doing, right? The numbers don't lie
I have defended keeping Ben on the show because it's important to hear different points of view. But enough is enough spouting lies and straight up defending and supporting a genocide is way over the line. If Ben is on I will not watch.
*@benik3297* I agree, Ben's right as usual.
I respect cenks passion. You would expect the same passion from neighboring Muslim countries. But they remain silent.
they sold ben a lie and he ate it all up
He sucked them all up!
What is Ben even doing on that show! This is like discussing with a nazi if holocaust happened. Off course the nazi would say no, like the Zionist says no, when asked if Israel is committing genocide.
Ben’s continued support of Israel and denial of genocide is absolutely disgusting and inexcusable at this point. This is a joke.
Ben is right
@@spiderguy418wrong.
@@Ryan-pz2wh ha, okay. Very convincing
@@spiderguy418 Because you were?
*@robsreality* I agree, Ben's right as usual.
It is not what Israel wants but what's right.
Get rid of Ben or you will loose this show
I'm sure in Ben's eyes, Native Americans voluntarily gave up their land.
I wouldn’t go there… Jews ARE THE NATIVE AMERICANS OF JUDEA!!! ISRAEL!
If you wanna play that game be my guest but you won’t like what you find.
G-d bless the Jewish people.
Every other group of people are told to "get over it" except the Jews. They want a forever pass for what happened to them in Nazi Germany.
Cry more. the jew are the natives
Fair point.
Give Cenk a one-way ticket to Turkey.
A thoughts experiment: If the 50 million Europeans who migrated to USA
during 1800-1900 instead would've been muslim, what would USA be today?
My guess: ISA, Islamic States of America.... Sounds good?
You are an occupier
To quote another RUclips comment:
"Saying Israel has right to defend itself is like saying the rapist and abuser has the right to defend himself because his victim hit him."
Hey thats my comment
Cenk is a beast
? By strawmanning and screaming like a maniac in every debate he attends?
Does anybody know about the 1967 USS liberty when isreal attack us
Ben sounds evil as fuck.
Read the following out loud and see how evil it sounds: "Israel will exist and will continue to exist
until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it".........
It´s from Hamas Covenant.
Ben is sooo ridiculous. I did not expect him to be so blind to something as blatant as genocide. Like wow.
You mean how Muslims want to exterminate all Jews and even teamed up with Hitler to do it in Palestine? the land that was stolen from the Jews from the romans and the arabs?
he said let the UN court have its trial to determine if it's genocide. Genocide is a legal term, it's not just how we feel about a terrible situation. to quote the holocaust museum website "There are a number of other serious, violent crimes that do not fall under the specific definition of genocide. They include crimes against humanity, war crimes, ethnic cleansing, and mass killing." it's like the difference between a death and murder, murders have to be proven in court.
@@JebJebJebbers The ICJ ruling has been handed down. While they can't outright confirm genocide yet, there's sufficient enough evidence that they can't take it off the table just yet. For now, Israel must refrain from acts under the Genocide Convention, ensure with immediate effect that their military does not violate the Genocide Convention, prevent and punish incitement to genocide, allow humanitarian assistance, avoid destruction of evidence, and submit a report on compliance in one month.
@@SentaiYamaneko that's fine and it doesn't really change what i said at the time. the term genocide gets tossed around a lot and people try to stretch the definition to suit their agenda. but in this case it's appropriate. that said I think both Ben and Cenk are too close to the issue to cover it objectively.
@@JebJebJebbers Yeah, I just thought I'd mention what exactly the court had to say about it.
The world agrees with Cenk. Ben needs a reality check.
A check with what , feeling? Facts are on ben side for sure !
The world?
Is that why gaza is a pile of rubble and noone is intervening or cares enough to do anything about it?
@@garysmith643 what facts? That Israel funded Hamas??
@@garysmith643 Yep. Sure. The "alternative facts" as Kellyanne Conway used to put it ... 🤣🤣🤣
@@robbiet1969 intriguing! Would that be an accusation of me or cenk ?
"Temporary displacement" - Ben Gleib, as if it isn't clear that Israel would never allow any Palestinian that left for Egypt the right of return.
Not once in their entire history have the Israelis ever allowed Palestinian refugees to return to their homes. The Gazans know that once they leave Gaza, they will never be allowed to return home.
It's how you know that every person suggesting they flee to Egypt is either A: very poorly educated on the history of the region, or B: cheering on the ethnic cleansing
Thank you cenk
“Voluntary displacement” and “voluntary migration” is a wild statement giving the context that your house is destroyed and starving.
Ben must not know what genocide is.
No he just thinks Jews are allowed to commit murder
After 10 years, it’s time to unsubscribe.
Cunk is crazy bro
@@davidradovsky7405cunk eyesore should be his new name
14:50 How is Ben Gleib so dumb? lmao
Ben is infuriating. The way he argues blindy against obvious genocide is disgusting.
*@julissaceballos91* I agree, Ben's right as usual.
@@ILoveAOCtroll
@@atlehman69 ok, weirdo.
First ! Its not a genocide . What nazi did to jews was a genocide ! Jews were targeted where ever nazj could get them . Palestinians inside isreal (20% of isreal) are not being targeted by the idf! Ethnically the same .
@@garysmith643It's genocide.
Ben gleib is absolutely insane
Ben was the only sane one in that conversation
you are 3% only squad agrees with TYT
The audacity of Israel kicking in the door and invading someones home. Then claiming victim when the homeowners defend themselves and their land. Not only that, but trying to use that to justify assaulting the homeowners calling it "self defense"....🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Cenk is painful to watch. He doesn't need Ben to expose his stupidity, he does it naturally and loudly.
Ben Glieb has never been my favorite host. Honestly, I generally skip the videos when I see it is him as I never like his take and his tone.
But I never thought he’d support genocide so fervently. And I’ll never trust his opinion on anything ever again, as he’s shown that his judgement is flawed to the point that he fights for more genocide. Disgusting.
I don’t know how TYT should deal with him… honestly, I don’t envy Cenk’s situation. But, something needs to be done. Having Ben represent TYT going forward is going to hurt TYT.
Thats my view on ana. I like friday because its cenk day
@@sciencegirl2239 Ana is a huge reason I got into TYT back in 2011. Ana, after Jon, is my favorite host.
@LHS427 cool ! Glad you enjoy her content. I'm more a cenk person.
He doesn’t see it as genocide, that’s his way out
I agree. For Ben to defend a right wing autocrat tells me a lot. Does he even believe of human rights? Yes, we all agree that HAMAS should be held accountable for those killings in October but Netanyahu is taking advantage of this moment with his power to control GAZA. He's sacrificing thousands of innocent civilian lives to do it and it's a "crime!" Israel has the advanced, prescribed weaponry from the U.S. and this shouldn't be that difficult to find terrorists. Even women in the military would locate them. It's a sloppy job of a cowardly, mad minister on the warpath to annihilate the GAZA people including women and children! And this is the biggest offense Ben! If you can't see through this, you have little compassion for life especially unarmed civilian life! Cenck, don't know how you put up with Ben and his disrespect like that on the show but he'll ruin your health. It's not worth it. Your children will worry about you.
I understand wanting to show both sides to an argument, but having Ben openly supporting genocide is crazy.
It was crazy . One can not deal reasonably with the unreasonable ! The yelling was proof cenk is unreasonable!
He’s not doing that. All of you all act like Palestinians and Hamas are one and the same - they aren’t. You support Hamas killing everyone Jews and Palestinians? cuz that’s what they (Hamas) want.
Completely agree. Having Ben on to talk about this is like having a white supremacist on every time tyt talks about race
@@happywarrior1219 i don't understand the accusation of racism . Thru racism gaza ended up with no ethnic diversity , while in isreal 20% of the population are Palestinians another 10 % are listed as neither Jewish or Arabic (Palestinians) . Why is no one accusing hamas as racist. Most Palestinian land is in Jordan and they kicked out most Palestinians into Lebanon. But isreal is racist? The biggest wall around gaza is on the Egypt side .
@@garysmith643
First I wasn't accusing Ben or Israel of being racist. I was saying that not all positions are reasonable and need a representative to argue the point. Like tyt can talk about the earth without having a flat earther on. Arguing you need to drop unguided munitions on one of the most civilian dense places on earth is nowhere close to a reasonable position. If your position is that Israel killing 10s of women and children for every Hamas member killed is acceptable than you are evil and an intellectual 2 year old. Such a monstrous position doesn't deserve half or a third of the air time.
Second Israel, Hamas and Ben all have a hateful and bigoted position of those they view to be their enemies. I'm not sure racist would be the most accurate description but definitely hateful and bigoted.
How is it a war if one side has no army. If they weren’t in apartheid there wouldn’t ha e been October 7 th
“You can’t repress 20% of your own population, illegally occupy neighboring territories in an apartheid setting and call yourself a democracy,” historian Walter Hixson said.
Ben went to Israel to personally write his name on bombs. He's a monster.
Mohaumad had a child lover. Justice for Aisha (she was 6). Palestine will be free... Free from Hamas and palestinians. From the River to the Sea Israel is all that will be. 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱
@Porter-88 So you care about Muslim children when it helps your narrative? You just killed 10000 of them. Using your own argument, you are worse than Mohammed.
And you cancelled people for using from the river to the sea, then used it yourself. Ultimate hypocrisy and utter evil.
Ben Gleib, what are you doing on TYT? Your place is on Fox News.
YES 😂😂😂
The only illegal immigrant state in the world since 75yrs
To my Turkish Brother God bless you for your honesty sincerity n great passion for standing up for the suffering Palestinians with respect your Cypriot Greek brother, If only You was the president look after yourself mate
Yes he better look up after himself. All this hate and anger at Jews can cause seizures you know
Come on Ben, the rest of the world will have to stop this. You only see one side.
Like it or not, Hamas is the state actor for Gaza, and has been in firm control for 17 years. Nobody made a distinction between the Germans and Nazis when the allies firebombed Dresden, which until Vietnam was the accepted way to break a fanatical enemy. We did the same thing in Tokyo without any group distinction whatsoever while holding Japanese-Americans in internment camps and US estimates had that death toll at 100k civilians. Both campaigns also worked as intended btw. It is not beyond the military capabilities of Israel to do this, yet they are not. This is not a genocide.
@@Porter-88 porter sounds satanic
@@Porter-88 facts don’t matter to these people.
@@Porter-88 we've condemned these behaviors now. We created world courts to keep it from happening again.
But here's the thing, We didn't control Germany when we bombed it. We didn't control their water, their roads, and their air space. We had no control over Germany or Japan when we attacked them.
Israel owns Gaza. It has a blockade in Gaza. The Gazans weren't free people capable of leaving the state.
So when you bomb them to smithereens, you're not bombing a separate nation with its own military, and it's own air force, capable of defending itself.
The people in charge of Hamas don't even live in Gaza.
So they're not attacking the leadership. They're attacking innocent people who's lives they control and who's home and access to water, food, and travel, they control.
@@Porter-88 And much like with the Germans, the Israeli government isn't good for Israelis, either. Arresting people for speaking out in favor of Palestine and telling the family members of hostages begging for negotiations to 'shut up or we'll lock you up'.
So the proof that Ben has is that he asked IDF commanders…. The people perpetrating the war crimes didn’t admit to war crimes.. what a shocker
There is currently a war going on, so it's not a time to prove or disprove war crime by asking any commanders
The guest was utterly insufferable. Terrible idea to host this guy, please don't bring him again. Using debunked propaganda
I'm Israeli and i agree with Cenk...
Either you are not Israeli or you are blind
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Thank you Cenk.. I've been watching TYT less because of some of your insane colleagues.
I respect that you give people a voice but you definitely need to get some of these people on your network the bottom line, exactly like this. Ben is unhinged in this rant.
From the river to the sea is a very old term referring to the eventual manifestation of what zionists call "Greater Israel." Look into it, I dare ya!
I did and you’re lying 🤥. Jews should have all of israel but decided for peeace to share with Arabs Islamist who turned to war and now play victims
FAKE NEWS
Ben had the NERVE to guilt trip us over the fact that we don't like listening to him anymore. ITS BECAUSE OF THINGS LIKE THIS
Things like you not understanding the difference between fact and fiction? Like you not understanding the history and context of this conflict? Yea.... 🤣
Ben is crazy at this point.
everyone who's pro israel is crazy.
And stupid to boot.
Mohaumad had a child lover. Justice for Aisha (she was 6). Palestine will be free... Free from Hamas and palestinians. From the River to the Sea Israel is all that will be. 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱
Why waste your time with this people who can’t accept what we see
I'm shocked at what I'm hearing. Ben seriously has the nerve to claim "not one Palestinian has been displaced" and the state of Israel is "acting morally", he's living in la-la land.
Ben has lost all sence of really. He seems blinded by his own rage and hatred of the Palestinians.
@@GreatBird Most of them left on their own.
@@woobiefuntime
Sarcasm ?
@@uzumakiangelus Nope .Most left on their own. The reason is the Arab governments told them to leave. The reason was the Arabs planned on invading Israel..
As a half Jew myself Ben Gleib is embarrassing. What a genocidal maniac. Literally sucks off Israel everyday. He only likes the parts UN that help Israel and gaslights every ruling the UN has ever made against Israel fuck his nonsense.
it blows my mind that you can give someone 3-4 billion a year, but YOU CANT TELL THEM WHAT TO DO ??? If I give you a 1billion a year, you will shit and piss when I tell you to
Little benji continues to be a Netanyahu mouthpiece.
Always enjoy watching Cenk get all worked up.
Brown Alex Jones 😂
idk why yall be having Ben on he CLEARLY don’t give a fck about the Palestinian people and continues to defend Israel. im so tired of seeing him on these convos fr.
Palestinian people are happy
Did this guy just say Arabs in Israel have full rights😂😂
He's repeatedly said it, also the ridiculous claim that Palestinians have rejected every peace deal (the ones Israeli officials have even admitted they would never agree to if they were Palestinian), while he ignores the fact that every year Israel (and the US) reject the un resolution for pre 1967 borders.
He said it because they ALL say it! I've seen this said throughout social media by the pro-Israel Zionists and even non-Zionist Israeli's and brain-dead uninformed Americans. It's an "out of the tube" Israeli talking point and Ben has them all memorized and he drops them on cue.
Former Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak revealed Netanyahu had floated the idea of creating a Palestinian state in the Sinai in one of their meetings (“Netanyahu Proposed Settling Palestinians in the Sinai”, Times of Israel, Nov. 30, 2017). It’s not just the idea of some wacky member of the Israeli government.
god this Ben guy is the biggest waffler ive ever seen i could predict every word he was gonna say with how propagandized their speech has become. everything hes said is a lie
Ben again has been drinking too much of that idf coolaid
Cenk is not mentally & emotionally stable enough for these debates.
Maybe for you. lol Most couldn't care less about his energy, only if whether or not it's based in facts.
His passion suggests how close to home this hits for him, Ben as well.
Neither is Cenk
Why should Palestinians leave their home
It was never there land,israel is older than Islam ☪️
Because they trouble makers ,Palestinians started two civil wars, one in Jordan 1975 and one in Lebanon 1973
@@NJ-ky7pi it was never Israel land friend
Isrealis were there thousands of years before Palestinians. T was called Judea. When the romans conquered them, they renamed it Palestine to humiliate the Jews. This long before the rise of Islam.
@@mileymarielow3850
@@jrdnruiz2 The Jews back then are the ancestors of the present Palestinians. The present day Jews came from a different son of Noah who went to Europe.
Ben has no compassion for a caged people being slaughtered and starved.
Good god... Ben has gone from delusional to a full blown sociopathic liar!
Emotions are stronger than facts and morals. People cannot be fair when emotions are involved.
@larryc1616 Exactly he is thinking with his heart not his mind.
I don’t think he’s a liar, but I do think he is deluding himself. Once upon a time I thought we (The confederacy) were the good guys in the war and should have won. I thought John Brown was evil, what we would now call a terrorist. I was a kid
I thought it was The War of Northern aggression .
I wasn’t lying I was professing what I believed.
I was wrong
I was deluded
Now I believe John Brown was a good guy as well as Northern armies even Sherman were in the right.
My former heroes I now condemn. I have grown up
@@benketengu Ben Gleib has always been a clown. Porsalin is a british documentarian that did a great documentary on Ben 4 years ago which shows what a fraud Gleib always has been. I knew him from Redbar prior to TYT hiring him.
@@soysaucehairdye7869thanks for the recommendation, it's looking good xD
Cenk : Argument: 0 - Shouting: 100
Don’t give Ben the platform. He’s out of his mind.
He is one of the most evil people I've ever seen on youtube. Literally defending the mass murder of children
Ben is starting to sound alot like the UK-Israel ambassador Zippy Hotovely. Keep him talking, it only makes his case sound even more insane.
I agree 👍. Bring Ben back _so Cenk can shout at him and set him straight._ It's important to make set id1ots like Ben straight. And _bring Ana on too, to shout at Ben._
History has shown that Palestinian civilians who fled their homes during war, because they didn't want to be caught up in the fighting, just wanted to live their lives peacefully, were then not allowed back to their homes when fighting was over. Their houses bulldozed, and their farmland taken by the victors.
Is it then not understandable that Egypt doesn't want them to set up tent cities in the Sinai, not having any guarantees that they will be allowed back home after the fighting?
To then have those refugees live the next 80+ years in the desert.
I love seeing Cenk rage and squeal since this war kicked off. It makes my day.
Thank you Cenk for speaking the truth!!
Opinions is not synonymous with truth.
These are Cenk´s opinions deriving from his regressive left islam-apology perspective.
He´s not even close to being objective.
Since when shouting bullshit equivalent to speaking truth precisely?
@@iamtimur4795 🤣🤣 no comment to your bullshit with exclamation. Your words are jumping off the screen while his ring like gladiator. He is a journalistic hero and it kills you that he’s not on your side. Jealous much?
@@staticcouch135 not even a bit, when Piers invited son of Hamas and Cenk to his show your journalist hero here sat there and kept his mouth shut cause he knew he is sitting in front of a guy who literally gre up inside a terrorist organization, so when son of Hamas openly supported Israel your hero boy kept his mouth shut. Son of Hamas absolutely humiliated Cenk in that debate.
@@staticcouch135
Cenk´s not a journalist, he´s an ex-lawyer, wannabe politician and businessman
monetizing this war almost as successful as Piers Morgan.
Ben saying "Israel acts with morality" is like denying the holocaust never happened. What an ignoramus he is
Then you have no clue what moral is, nor do you understand what an actual jeanohside is. You imbeciles have the intellect of wet cement.
Israel does act morally 95% of the time, which is way more often than the US, China, Turkey,, Russia and Saudi.
Where was your ignorant behind when 200,000 Syrian civilians perished in that war? Or when 150,000 yemenis fell to Saudi bomvs and starvation? Where was the completely corrupt ANC, with their fallacios accusations, when Russia, the US, Syria, Saudi and Yemen, when they facilitated the death of a half a MILLION civilians?
And now you want to whine and cry about 20,000 in a high density warzone, while the UN and Egypt, NOT Israel, but the UN and Egypt FORCE Gazans to remain in a warzone, because THEY, not the people of Gaza, but the pan Islamists and international community, demand a state of Palestine that no one really ever wanted or needed lol? You have no clue what morals, ethics or integrity actually mean.
Youre supporting an openly jeanohsidal Islamofascist Nasi population in "Palestine" pretending they are "indigenous" and pretending they are the victims, when neither is even close to true. There is no real difference between Humas, the PA and civilians in Gaza. Almost 90% of so called palestinians, openly support the complete jeanohside of Israel and its people, just as they have since ww2.
The Palestinian moslems, an ideoligical movement and fake ethnic identity only created in 1964, are an openly Islamofascist Nasi population as they have been for the better part of 80 years. It was the Arabs, nit Israelis, who caused the Nakba. The Nakba was the 2nd failed attempt in a decade by Syrian Arabs to jeanohside the Jews of Palestine. The founding father of modern Palestinian identity was an ACTUAL Nasi and Arafats uncle and mentor. Husseini allied Palestinian Arabs with Adolph in ww2, as he spent the war spreading nasi propaganda in the moslem world, while planning with good friend Eichman to bring the german camps to palestine. If Brits didnt defeat the Nasis in north Africa, the moslems of palestine, with help from their nasi allies, would have jeanohsided palestinian jews BEFORE Israel even existed.
Only one party in this conflict ever openly called for jeanohside and attempted it on 4 occations, and thats the Syrian Aeabs now calling themselves "palestinians" , only after 1964 when the Plo was first created with the complete jeanohside of Israel written directly into its charter, and palestinian culture hasnt changed since.
You mooks are so clueless. 🤣
2 months ago the supposedly secular PA, released an official statement to its 99% Sunni Arab population, reassuring them that the goal of the complete jeanohside of Israel was still the goal. They even included the famous garquat tree hadith that appeared in the original Humas charter. And if you arent familiar with that hadith i suggest you seek garquat tree hadith jews and find out. Or check out palestinian kids shows like tomorrows pioneers with farfur the islamonasi mouse.
I mean seriously, how is anyone supposed to take you seriously if you perpetuate completely fallacious and idiotic rhetoric like in the op?
Zuheir Mohsen (1936 - 25 July 1979) was a Palestinian leader of the Syria-controlled as-Sa'iqa faction of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) between 1971 and 1979
"The Palestinian people do not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan."
“Wij zijn alleen Palestijn om politieke reden,” James Dorsey, Trouw, 31 March 1977.
Ben has lost all credibility with me he’s deeply biased and completely unable to see this from another point of view
Mohaumad had a child lover. Justice for Aisha (she was 6). Palestine will be free... Free from Hamas and palestinians. From the River to the Sea Israel is all that will be. 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱
"Proportion is not a standard used in war, you try to win a war."
Yeah, Ben...it wasn't a standard until the Nuremberg trials.... you know....the trials that set limits on what kind of conduct is acceptable during wartime? Your ancestors' being killed was why we set those standards that you're now dismissing.
What would Ben's reaction be to a German veteran from WWII saying, "so what if the camps killed millions of Jews? We were trying to win a war, Germany declared them an enemy, so the government said they were bad during a war..."
^ Basically the little song and dance he's doing to defend Netanyahu.
☝️😡Why wasn't this guy expelled immediately?! Disappointment doesn't even come close to what I'm feeling. Disgusting 🤢🤮
This guy Ben has zero self awareness, humility, zero charisma, context of history. He is just locked into his bias, its quite stunning that he can be this obtuse.
Is Charisma actually a metric that you use to measure how right someone is?
He is perfect for TYT. 😁😆🥳🎉
He's a Jewish Zionist, what else would you expect from someone descended from the God killers.
Mad respect for Ramesh to have stayed so calm during this exchange.