Hi Everyone, Just letting you know i did watch all of the video. Unfortunately the video capture started to tear the image/video and i couldnt use it. So i had to edit it out and what you see is what i could save. Apologies i didn't let you know earlier. Cheers VSC
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loved your reaction... keep the good work... but Why did you "liked" your own comentary? heheheh
Definitely go back and watch all the way to the end. You'll love it. (And just a hint, never stop a Sabaton video before it comes to a stop on its own; there is often something of significance at the end.) A former commander (trainer? I don't remember...) of Stigler's once told him, "If I ever see you shooting down a man in a parachute, I'll shoot you myself." Stigler considered Ye Olde Pub to be a parachute, as it was so badly damaged and completely helpless, and so he didn't shoot it down - even though that would have been the kill to win himself the Knight's Cross. As for what next? Sabaton has another animated story video, Night Witches. You might find that one interesting.
at the start of the war, the commanding staff of the luftwaffe was perhaps the last air force to stick to the WWI "knights of the sky" motto, fighting like gentlemen, of course by the end of the war, this mentality had almost totaly disapeared
Interesting fact: Stigler was made an honorary member of Brown's bomber group and was invited to a reunion of the descendants of Ye Olde Pub. He felt uncomfortable being there hearing stories of the sons and families of the pilot and crew of the bomber until one of them said to him "Sir. The only reason that We can actually make this reunion today is because of you. No one deserves to be here more than You"
While in training Stigler was told by his commanding officer “If I ever see or hear of you shooting at a man in a parachute, I will shoot you down myself. You follow the rules of war for you - not for your enemy. You fight by rules to keep your humanity.” Stigler later commented “To me, it was just like they were in a parachute. I saw them and I couldn’t shoot them down. “ "You fight by rules to keep your humanity.” That is a powerful statement
Oh no!!! You didnt watch the video to the end!!!! The best and most emotional part is at the end. NEVER end a Sabaton video before its really over. Sabaton often save the best to last
By far, my favorite Sabaton song, and the one I can most relate to. I live near Bremen (the place they bombed) and Oldenburg (where they almost crashed), and one of my Opas (Grandpa) was a AA-gunner at the Atlantikwall, in the Netherlands. I wonder if he saw a BF-109 escorting a B-17? Good reaction.
Great video man. While I didn't tear up, the song did fill me with a triumph of goodwill, so to speak. Proud to be in a place where people risk everything to help someone they see hurting.
Noo you missed last scene. But great reaction! Next please react to "The attack of the dead men lyric video" by sabaton and "en livstid i krig" by sabaton. Don't forget to turn on caption.
Some bomber missions were protected by accompanying fighters, but most missions were not because of the shorter ranges of the fighters of the day. Bombers were constructed to go on long missions deep into enemy territory, fighters were made to wait on the ground until they had targets coming in to their area, then take to the sky and to be very fast and agile. Another way to say it is that fighters have shorter legs then bombers in general, this is true to this day. That was the reason the bombers back then had so many defensive guns and flew in formation, they knew they would have to fend for themselves the majority of the time in the air...
If this story doesnt get you emotional, you are not human. I love the song and the story behind it. As others already have said, you missed a bit of the story but Im sure you have watched the end by now. Emotional and heartwarming
My father flew in the US Army Air Corp during WW II. He had 13 completed (bombs dropped) missions in B-17 ... as a fill in. He was assigned to C-47 which primary mission was paratroop drop, C-47's were unarmed. My dad was one of many from the Greatest Generation and he was very quiet about most of what he experienced. I still have the picture he took of two friends in the cockpit of their B-17 he took it just before a mission that those men never returned from ... dad did not know if they became POW's or if they were killed when their plane went down. Still even though my namesake and my dad's beloved older brother did die at the hands of the Nazi's dad loved the German people and the country. I was born long after the war and near the end of dad's service he was sent to Germany as an attache to Germany. He loved taking us around the country and introducing us to as much of the culture as possible. For my dad the enemy was the Nazis not the everyday Germans. Like you when I first saw this story and then to see Sabaton do their thing ... CHILLS!!! My dad would have balled his eyes out hearing this story and would have loved the Sabaton take. Dad gave me several wonderful gifts in life ... love of dogs, photography, music, woodworking and skiing. To all who appreciate this song and story on behalf of all the men and women who serve or served with honor, thank you for recognizing they are human and not war mongers as sadly some try to claim. My dad despised war and worked hard to do many wonderful things that made him a hero to me because of how much he loved helping others.
It was about -60°C up there for the crew. It usually doesn't even get this cold in the worst Siberian winters. Antarctica is warmer than that. I really don't wanna imagine how it felt like for crew. You're literally freezing, getting shot at from all sides, your plane basically shouldn't even be flying at that point anymore, and you can't even fire back because your guns are full of ice. Also... NEVER stop a sabaton video until the end. you missed a part.
It is not just you, I have heard it many times it still gets me every time, quite the story. Watch the rest of the video though, there are even more feels to be had.
As an aviation fan, I can tell you that back then, fighter planes used to escort bombers lacked the range to keep up with the bombers. Until the P-51 Mustang, which was designed for the task.
@@VonSchnitzelCrumREACTS Also, check out Slaughter-Fly To The Angels, a tribute to Amerlia Earhard who disappeared during an attempted solo flight around the world. ruclips.net/video/ukmobha2krY/видео.html
just some basic about aviation, bombers are usually made to go Mid to long distances, Fighters are designes to go Short to Mid distances, so a bomber in ww2 would always be alone dropping their bombs, and would be until they reached the cover of friendly fighters, if the fighters could find them in the wast empty sky. it's WW2, technology is what it is, and every side have just so much resources, so they have to optimize, at the potential cost of lives
Bro i'm with you, first time i saw this i got emotional too. Seeing that kind of brotherhood & the way Sabaton portrays it through their songs/lyrics just hits in a different way.
I am sure you have done it by now but like everybody else is saying watch it again to the actual end! The story goes even more heartwarming and amazing. Good reaction!
The earlier air raids didn’t have any escorts just cause of the distance, only after the p51 was introduced i think they started to have escorts all the way
they also flew over two german AA nests on the way aswell, but they didnt shoot because they saw that the Bf109 was directly on the B17, that also explains the line "he risked his life two times that day"
The real tragedy of this. After the story became public. Stigler would receive letters from Germany. Calling him a traitor and worse. Then received letters from his Canadian neighbors. Calling him a Nazi thug and worse.
Yet. An old friend of him that served alongside Stigler on the Luttwaffe called him and asedio if the story was true. His answer was "Well, that's what I would expect from you Stigler" meaning that He was okay with the actions of his friend.
As I recall, it was nearly impossible to get fighter escorts for strategic bombers in Europe until the advent of the P-51. It was a question of range, as Mustangs with their Rolls-Royce "Merlin" engines could fly farther and longer than any other "pursuit" aircraft in existence.
My dad flew C-47s dropping paratroopers into European combat zones. He was shot down behind German lines during Operation Market Garden. He actually knew Charlie Brown. Stigler tried to get Ye Old Pub to land so the crew would be captured. At least that way they’d live. When Brown shook his head, Stigler pointed toward Sweden, but Brown misunderstood and again shook his head. So Stigler decided to escort them out of German air space. While Ye Olde Pub’s crew were told not to talk about the incident, other pilots knew. This was an act of honor and chivalry in a modern war. Stigler was such an extraordinarily good man. NOTE: Stigler was able to fly that B-17 across the German AA gun placements because Germany had captured B-17s that they would use to fly over Allied territory to gain reconnaissance. That’s why the guns on the ground didn’t just shoot Ye Olde Pub out of the sky as it went overhead, BF-109 or no. Seeing an escorted B-17 might have been unusual, but it certainly happened. Listen to Christmas Truce and 1916.
There is a longer video where someone else did a similar reaction video, but it show a bit more where a fan of the band hearing the song was reminded of a old story told by his grandfather, and called his mother and allowed her to listen. The mother of this fan was the daughter of that German fighter, who sent a the band a thank you video for telling her father's story. If you want to check it out, the video is called: Sabaton NO BULLETS FLY ANIMATED Reaction | Just Jen Reacts to Sabaton No Bullets Fly | Oh My Heart!
Well, unfortunately, it's hard for any WWII fighters to escort bombers because they just don't have the range for it. Fighters then were designed to be as small and fast as possible, and that meant sacrificing operating time. They just didn't carry enough fuel, and I don't think drop tanks existed at the time for long range flight.
About fighter escorts-my understanding was that the B-17 had so many machine gun on it (it was called the Flying Fortress) that at first they thought they could just send bombers without escorts, later they changed because of losses, but even then there was a problem of the range of the fighters. Eventually the P-51 Mustang with drop tanks for extra fuel solved the problem.
A lot of credit for this story goes to the excellent flight instructor of the German pilot who told him in no uncertain terms that if he ever heared about him shooting at pilots on a parachute he would personally execute him with a bullet to the head consequences be damned! The pilot took this stern warning to heart, when he saw the damaged bomber and the crew barely clinging on to live he made the judgment call and equated them with pilots on a parachute and instead of claiming his knights cross chose to risk his life, his career and his honor in order to Escort them to safety.
@@HellBrYnger I mean. Richtofen was highly popular among the Luttwaffe. The book a higher call expands about this incident and gives some insight of what went inside the german air force, a good part of them followed their own moral compasses and were against the nazis. Also. The whole phrase was said by Gustav Rodel, another great ace of the Luttwaffe. The phrase ended in "We don't have this codes for the enemies but for ourselves, to be able to look ourselves on a mirror and still see a human being"
Franz Commander Gustav rodel said if they shot down parachutes he'd find them and shoot them himself so obviously the honour part rubbed off on stigler.
Fighter planes didnt have the range to escort bombers to the target and back , plus they would have had no effect on the flak , you really need to finish the video n see the ending .
So early on in the bombing campaign there was little to no fighter cover for bombers, the main reason being fighters having only a fraction of the range bombers had, they'd try to fly fighters in shifts picking up different escorts along their trip, unfortunately if a bomber flight was early or late to the meetup they'd miss their escorts or if escorts had to wait it was less time and fuel to escort meaning theyd have to leave earlier I believe at the time of this run, December of '43 P-51s with expanded fuel tanks were finally hitting front lines
It was browns first time piloting a b17 having the lives of his mates in his hands. He was lucky that he came across Stigler that day. Sadly they had to go on 35 missions to be excused from further air missions / combat...
@2:40 you call that rain? Iv heard louder rain when the sun is out in Florida. Let me know when you can't see across the street and birds are flying backwards(not jokes).
There so many more things to say about this incident. 1/ I believe there was a standing order to not spare any plane or even pilot in a parachute. If anyone had reported the incident Stigler would most likely have been court martialed and shot 2/ Stigler stayed with the B-17 to keep the AA gunners from shooting it down, not leaving it until they got to the coast. He first wanted them to land but they refused, he then wanted them to fly to Sweden as it was closer than Britain, but they didnt understand what he meant and continued to fly towards Britain 3/ When fighting in Africa, Stigler was told by his commander, Gustav Rödel, that if you follow this order to shoot down helpless enemies I will shoot you myself. You will not follow this order to save the enemy but to save your soul because you will never forgive yourself. Stigler has said that he remembered this when he was thinking about shooting down the bomber 4/ Brown told his commander when he was debriefed and to an intelligence officer. However he was ordered not to tell anyone and the whole thing was kept secret. There was two reasons for this, one was that they didnt want other bomber crews to think that the next german fighter would spare them, and the other reason was they they didnt want the enemy to be portrayed in a humane way. 5/ Everyone in the B-17, except the initially killed gunner survived the war, with the last member dying in 2016 6/ The reason Stigler didnt fire in the first place was that he saw that the tail gunner machineguns were pointing upwards, showing no one was using them. When he came closer he saw the dead tailgunner and when he got closer he saw that the mid section gunners were either injured or trying to save other wounded crew members. 7/ Stigler wasnt part of the fighters that shot at the plane, they saw the plane fall and thought they had shot it down. Stigler was actually on the ground when the plane flew by having just come back from another mission 8/ Brown searched German records for 4 years but found no mention of the incident, for obvious reasons because Stigler never reported it. It was first when he put an ad in a german flying magazine that Stigler responded 9/ The B-17 crew used to have reunions and Stigler was invited and at that first meeting felt out of place and didnt think he deserved to be there. Brown felt something was wrong and asked Stigler what was wrong, so Stigler told him. Brown brought him to a large group that was gathered to the side and asked Stigler if he knew who these people were? Stigler obviously said no, so Brown told him, these are some of the children and grandchildren of the men you saved and if it werent for you they wouldnt be here, so no one deserves to be here more than you To me Stigler was a true hero and human who was in a war, but was still able to feel mercy
Check the phots of the Ye Olde Pub. How it flew, I don't fathom. On the last run of B17 production in 1945 they named one " Ye Olde Pub " it still exist I think.
The thing to remember it wasn't just the enemy that was deadly to them. If they vomited in their masks it would freeze. If they touched the metal with no gloves their hand would freeze to the gun.
You missed one interesting part, I mean the ending part by the way loved the reaction,same here watch a lot times still the same emotion ❤ try 1916 written by Lemmy Kilmister from Motorhead and was covered by Sabaton ❤
recently discovered you so jumping in late with these, but please react to more songs from the nightwish end of an era concert with tarja, nemo, over the hills and far away and sleeping sun are all good ones, i also love ghost love score and it is my favourite version, but i will admit that is mostly nostalgia that helps it win over floors version.
new sub. great reaction, and we all cry, its good to be human. :) also check out Liliac, id suggest an initial viewing of one of their early covers like Crazy Train or Paranoid, or The Trooper. :)
Literally do Sabaton. Literally. just do Also... yes. Sabaton has this weird habit of peeling garlic whenever I'm listening to their music. Super weird.
What many people dont understand is that the Wehrmacht were the SOldiers of the country no matter who ruled it and soldiers were drafted basically every man older than 17. That was the Wehrmacht the army. That was not something political. The SS was political but the Wehrmacht and SS had inernal fights all over the place. In this video you can see how he veterans of WW1 drilled the Army with respect. The Brits did the same with their soldiers in WW1. Not shooting medics, not shooting parachuters on the way down, no war crimes... That was a code usually. The war crimes were done by the SS and then by brain washed young people in their late teens that grrew up with propaganda in their brain . You can see that in the Islamic state now. Brain Wash PS: He took down 33 other planes totally and the B17 took down an good share as well even civilians that day. That is not the moral. Its an order and Iam sure nobody is waking up and having to kill someone. This is about two people who killed but they show you a face behind the killer
4:40 you think this was scary? immagine to be one of the poor guys down on earth, that are hiding in their cellars with their kids, and hope and pray that they don`t get killed by the bombs....
Hi Everyone, Just letting you know i did watch all of the video. Unfortunately the video capture started to tear the image/video and i couldnt use it. So i had to edit it out and what you see is what i could save. Apologies i didn't let you know earlier. Cheers VSC
loved your reaction... keep the good work... but Why did you "liked" your own comentary? heheheh
Definitely go back and watch all the way to the end. You'll love it. (And just a hint, never stop a Sabaton video before it comes to a stop on its own; there is often something of significance at the end.)
A former commander (trainer? I don't remember...) of Stigler's once told him, "If I ever see you shooting down a man in a parachute, I'll shoot you myself." Stigler considered Ye Olde Pub to be a parachute, as it was so badly damaged and completely helpless, and so he didn't shoot it down - even though that would have been the kill to win himself the Knight's Cross.
As for what next? Sabaton has another animated story video, Night Witches. You might find that one interesting.
Yes! See the whole thing.
at the start of the war, the commanding staff of the luftwaffe was perhaps the last air force to stick to the WWI "knights of the sky" motto, fighting like gentlemen, of course by the end of the war, this mentality had almost totaly disapeared
Interesting fact: Stigler was made an honorary member of Brown's bomber group and was invited to a reunion of the descendants of Ye Olde Pub.
He felt uncomfortable being there hearing stories of the sons and families of the pilot and crew of the bomber until one of them said to him "Sir. The only reason that We can actually make this reunion today is because of you. No one deserves to be here more than You"
Watch it until the end. You will cry even more. Big surprise at the end.
While in training Stigler was told by his commanding officer “If I ever see or hear of you shooting at a man in a parachute, I will shoot you down myself. You follow the rules of war for you - not for your enemy. You fight by rules to keep your humanity.”
Stigler later commented “To me, it was just like they were in a parachute. I saw them and I couldn’t shoot them down. “
"You fight by rules to keep your humanity.” That is a powerful statement
Oh no!!! You didnt watch the video to the end!!!! The best and most emotional part is at the end. NEVER end a Sabaton video before its really over. Sabaton often save the best to last
WATCH IT ALL! YOU NEED TO WATCH IT ALL!!! Great reaction bud...
Hey, great reaction to a very cool story video!
But you missed the end, really, you should go back and watch the ending! 😎☺️
You're not the only one. Ninjas must be cutting onions near me every time I hear this song too
Beautiful reaction. This video gets me every time
By far, my favorite Sabaton song, and the one I can most relate to.
I live near Bremen (the place they bombed) and Oldenburg (where they almost crashed),
and one of my Opas (Grandpa) was a AA-gunner at the Atlantikwall, in the Netherlands.
I wonder if he saw a BF-109 escorting a B-17?
Good reaction.
Wow thats amazing. Can understand why its your fav
Great video man. While I didn't tear up, the song did fill me with a triumph of goodwill, so to speak. Proud to be in a place where people risk everything to help someone they see hurting.
Noo you missed last scene. But great reaction! Next please react to "The attack of the dead men lyric video" by sabaton and "en livstid i krig" by sabaton. Don't forget to turn on caption.
First time I heard this song and saw this video I was crying so much I had to get tissues. It hits you right in the heart for sure.
Very emotional story
Some bomber missions were protected by accompanying fighters, but most missions were not because of the shorter ranges of the fighters of the day. Bombers were constructed to go on long missions deep into enemy territory, fighters were made to wait on the ground until they had targets coming in to their area, then take to the sky and to be very fast and agile. Another way to say it is that fighters have shorter legs then bombers in general, this is true to this day. That was the reason the bombers back then had so many defensive guns and flew in formation, they knew they would have to fend for themselves the majority of the time in the air...
If this story doesnt get you emotional, you are not human. I love the song and the story behind it. As others already have said, you missed a bit of the story but Im sure you have watched the end by now. Emotional and heartwarming
My father flew in the US Army Air Corp during WW II. He had 13 completed (bombs dropped) missions in B-17 ... as a fill in. He was assigned to C-47 which primary mission was paratroop drop, C-47's were unarmed. My dad was one of many from the Greatest Generation and he was very quiet about most of what he experienced. I still have the picture he took of two friends in the cockpit of their B-17 he took it just before a mission that those men never returned from ... dad did not know if they became POW's or if they were killed when their plane went down. Still even though my namesake and my dad's beloved older brother did die at the hands of the Nazi's dad loved the German people and the country. I was born long after the war and near the end of dad's service he was sent to Germany as an attache to Germany. He loved taking us around the country and introducing us to as much of the culture as possible. For my dad the enemy was the Nazis not the everyday Germans. Like you when I first saw this story and then to see Sabaton do their thing ... CHILLS!!! My dad would have balled his eyes out hearing this story and would have loved the Sabaton take. Dad gave me several wonderful gifts in life ... love of dogs, photography, music, woodworking and skiing. To all who appreciate this song and story on behalf of all the men and women who serve or served with honor, thank you for recognizing they are human and not war mongers as sadly some try to claim. My dad despised war and worked hard to do many wonderful things that made him a hero to me because of how much he loved helping others.
It was about -60°C up there for the crew. It usually doesn't even get this cold in the worst Siberian winters. Antarctica is warmer than that.
I really don't wanna imagine how it felt like for crew. You're literally freezing, getting shot at from all sides, your plane basically shouldn't even be flying at that point anymore, and you can't even fire back because your guns are full of ice.
Also... NEVER stop a sabaton video until the end. you missed a part.
Subscribed, just let the videos finish, completely. We aren't in a hurry to move along, and these great European metal bands deserve a full play.
🙂
It is not just you, I have heard it many times it still gets me every time, quite the story. Watch the rest of the video though, there are even more feels to be had.
As an aviation fan, I can tell you that back then, fighter planes used to escort bombers lacked the range to keep up with the bombers. Until the P-51 Mustang, which was designed for the task.
Ahhh that's interesting ! I'm always curious about aviation stories and advancements.. Anything you would recommend me watching or listening too ??
@@VonSchnitzelCrumREACTS Check out L.A. Speed Story told by an SR-71 pilot
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@@VonSchnitzelCrumREACTS Also, check out Slaughter-Fly To The Angels, a tribute to Amerlia Earhard who disappeared during an attempted solo flight around the world.
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just some basic about aviation, bombers are usually made to go Mid to long distances, Fighters are designes to go Short to Mid distances, so a bomber in ww2 would always be alone dropping their bombs, and would be until they reached the cover of friendly fighters, if the fighters could find them in the wast empty sky.
it's WW2, technology is what it is, and every side have just so much resources, so they have to optimize, at the potential cost of lives
Bro i'm with you, first time i saw this i got emotional too. Seeing that kind of brotherhood & the way Sabaton portrays it through their songs/lyrics just hits in a different way.
Thanks for a great reaction! :)
I am sure you have done it by now but like everybody else is saying watch it again to the actual end! The story goes even more heartwarming and amazing. Good reaction!
The earlier air raids didn’t have any escorts just cause of the distance, only after the p51 was introduced i think they started to have escorts all the way
they also flew over two german AA nests on the way aswell, but they didnt shoot because they saw that the Bf109 was directly on the B17, that also explains the line "he risked his life two times that day"
I have seen this video a lot and still got chocked up every time.
I think this Song is the Best Song ever.... and the Olde Pub still flys today!
The real tragedy of this. After the story became public. Stigler would receive letters from Germany. Calling him a traitor and worse. Then received letters from his Canadian neighbors. Calling him a Nazi thug and worse.
Yet. An old friend of him that served alongside Stigler on the Luttwaffe called him and asedio if the story was true. His answer was "Well, that's what I would expect from you Stigler" meaning that He was okay with the actions of his friend.
As I recall, it was nearly impossible to get fighter escorts for strategic bombers in Europe until the advent of the P-51. It was a question of range, as Mustangs with their Rolls-Royce "Merlin" engines could fly farther and longer than any other "pursuit" aircraft in existence.
Really liked your reaction.
You stopped too early...... The end is another tear jerker!
Sabaton-night whitches-animated .... listen until the end
Make sure it's the long animated version too.
You’re not the only one mate. Emotional and beautiful story.
Wow. That's my first reaction aswell I also shed a couple. Killer song and an even better message. Will be listening to more of them.
Yes it gets to all of us. If you haven't already done so, you need to listen to Sabaton's Ballad of Bull. Australian Corporal Leslie Allan.
If you want to hear more of the story - look up (on RUclips) Sabaton History No Bullets Fly - it's only like 15 min long, and it's great.
Beautiful reaction
My dad flew C-47s dropping paratroopers into European combat zones. He was shot down behind German lines during Operation Market Garden. He actually knew Charlie Brown. Stigler tried to get Ye Old Pub to land so the crew would be captured. At least that way they’d live. When Brown shook his head, Stigler pointed toward Sweden, but Brown misunderstood and again shook his head. So Stigler decided to escort them out of German air space. While Ye Olde Pub’s crew were told not to talk about the incident, other pilots knew. This was an act of honor and chivalry in a modern war. Stigler was such an extraordinarily good man. NOTE: Stigler was able to fly that B-17 across the German AA gun placements because Germany had captured B-17s that they would use to fly over Allied territory to gain reconnaissance. That’s why the guns on the ground didn’t just shoot Ye Olde Pub out of the sky as it went overhead, BF-109 or no. Seeing an escorted B-17 might have been unusual, but it certainly happened.
Listen to Christmas Truce and 1916.
👍🏻 nice react
One of my favorite songs by them (it's my ringtone)
There is a longer video where someone else did a similar reaction video, but it show a bit more where a fan of the band hearing the song was reminded of a old story told by his grandfather, and called his mother and allowed her to listen. The mother of this fan was the daughter of that German fighter, who sent a the band a thank you video for telling her father's story.
If you want to check it out, the video is called:
Sabaton NO BULLETS FLY ANIMATED Reaction | Just Jen Reacts to Sabaton No Bullets Fly | Oh My Heart!
Well, unfortunately, it's hard for any WWII fighters to escort bombers because they just don't have the range for it. Fighters then were designed to be as small and fast as possible, and that meant sacrificing operating time. They just didn't carry enough fuel, and I don't think drop tanks existed at the time for long range flight.
ahh thats interesting
About fighter escorts-my understanding was that the B-17 had so many machine gun on it (it was called the Flying Fortress) that at first they thought they could just send bombers without escorts, later they changed because of losses, but even then there was a problem of the range of the fighters. Eventually the P-51 Mustang with drop tanks for extra fuel solved the problem.
No bullets fly is my favorite song
Its a bloody good song !
A lot of credit for this story goes to the excellent flight instructor of the German pilot who told him in no uncertain terms that if he ever heared about him shooting at pilots on a parachute he would personally execute him with a bullet to the head consequences be damned! The pilot took this stern warning to heart, when he saw the damaged bomber and the crew barely clinging on to live he made the judgment call and equated them with pilots on a parachute and instead of claiming his knights cross chose to risk his life, his career and his honor in order to Escort them to safety.
that sounds like the Red Baron's teachings,
@@HellBrYnger I mean. Richtofen was highly popular among the Luttwaffe. The book a higher call expands about this incident and gives some insight of what went inside the german air force, a good part of them followed their own moral compasses and were against the nazis.
Also. The whole phrase was said by Gustav Rodel, another great ace of the Luttwaffe. The phrase ended in "We don't have this codes for the enemies but for ourselves, to be able to look ourselves on a mirror and still see a human being"
As one American WWII Bomber Crewman put it, "It was a million dollar experience, that he wouldn't pay a nickel to do again."
Franz Commander Gustav rodel said if they shot down parachutes he'd find them and shoot them himself so obviously the honour part rubbed off on stigler.
this music video gets me every time 😭
Fighter planes didnt have the range to escort bombers to the target and back , plus they would have had no effect on the flak , you really need to finish the video n see the ending .
So early on in the bombing campaign there was little to no fighter cover for bombers, the main reason being fighters having only a fraction of the range bombers had, they'd try to fly fighters in shifts picking up different escorts along their trip, unfortunately if a bomber flight was early or late to the meetup they'd miss their escorts or if escorts had to wait it was less time and fuel to escort meaning theyd have to leave earlier
I believe at the time of this run, December of '43 P-51s with expanded fuel tanks were finally hitting front lines
It was browns first time piloting a b17 having the lives of his mates in his hands. He was lucky that he came across Stigler that day. Sadly they had to go on 35 missions to be excused from further air missions / combat...
A wounderful story ... its hope for the human.. love
Man you have to do screaming eagles next by sabaton
It was minus 60°C. That's why the guns were frozen after the plain took that much damage.
NO!!! You missed the best part with stopping to early. But otherwise I loved your reaction.
when will people learn to watch sabaton video to the end...
the "fortresses" as long as they were in packs could hold up pretty well with all their turrets
Wow you missed the ending... :O
@2:40 you call that rain? Iv heard louder rain when the sun is out in Florida. Let me know when you can't see across the street and birds are flying backwards(not jokes).
yes it did!
also you missed the actual ending of this video. :)
The bomber was out of the fight. No longer a threat. Stigler was a warrior, not a killer. There was no glory in shooting down a defenseless bomber.
So sad, that you don`t see the end of the video.....
I did watch it fully.. Unfortunately the last few mins of the vid corrupted and couldnt use it. So i had to edit it out
My man said cheap to yarn hub...
There so many more things to say about this incident.
1/ I believe there was a standing order to not spare any plane or even pilot in a parachute. If anyone had reported the incident Stigler would most likely have been court martialed and shot
2/ Stigler stayed with the B-17 to keep the AA gunners from shooting it down, not leaving it until they got to the coast. He first wanted them to land but they refused, he then wanted them to fly to Sweden as it was closer than Britain, but they didnt understand what he meant and continued to fly towards Britain
3/ When fighting in Africa, Stigler was told by his commander, Gustav Rödel, that if you follow this order to shoot down helpless enemies I will shoot you myself. You will not follow this order to save the enemy but to save your soul because you will never forgive yourself. Stigler has said that he remembered this when he was thinking about shooting down the bomber
4/ Brown told his commander when he was debriefed and to an intelligence officer. However he was ordered not to tell anyone and the whole thing was kept secret. There was two reasons for this, one was that they didnt want other bomber crews to think that the next german fighter would spare them, and the other reason was they they didnt want the enemy to be portrayed in a humane way.
5/ Everyone in the B-17, except the initially killed gunner survived the war, with the last member dying in 2016
6/ The reason Stigler didnt fire in the first place was that he saw that the tail gunner machineguns were pointing upwards, showing no one was using them. When he came closer he saw the dead tailgunner and when he got closer he saw that the mid section gunners were either injured or trying to save other wounded crew members.
7/ Stigler wasnt part of the fighters that shot at the plane, they saw the plane fall and thought they had shot it down. Stigler was actually on the ground when the plane flew by having just come back from another mission
8/ Brown searched German records for 4 years but found no mention of the incident, for obvious reasons because Stigler never reported it. It was first when he put an ad in a german flying magazine that Stigler responded
9/ The B-17 crew used to have reunions and Stigler was invited and at that first meeting felt out of place and didnt think he deserved to be there. Brown felt something was wrong and asked Stigler what was wrong, so Stigler told him. Brown brought him to a large group that was gathered to the side and asked Stigler if he knew who these people were? Stigler obviously said no, so Brown told him, these are some of the children and grandchildren of the men you saved and if it werent for you they wouldnt be here, so no one deserves to be here more than you
To me Stigler was a true hero and human who was in a war, but was still able to feel mercy
Check the phots of the Ye Olde Pub. How it flew, I don't fathom. On the last run of B17 production in 1945 they named one " Ye Olde Pub " it still exist I think.
They have no fighter cover as they didn't have the range to do so early on in the war.
Wait. You didn't see the end of the video..?
I buckled!
Nawwwwwww, kitty! Hey, buddy!
Nice!
Don't know if you have heard it but tender surrender from Steve Vai.
Im sorry, but you sort of missed the punchline to the video... you have to go back and record thst to
Next time don't quit before the real ending... you missed out on about the best part
Wow you missed the last scene 😮
You missed the last part! :(
The thing to remember it wasn't just the enemy that was deadly to them. If they vomited in their masks it would freeze. If they touched the metal with no gloves their hand would freeze to the gun.
You missed one interesting part, I mean the ending part by the way loved the reaction,same here watch a lot times still the same emotion ❤ try 1916 written by Lemmy Kilmister from Motorhead and was covered by Sabaton ❤
recently discovered you so jumping in late with these, but please react to more songs from the nightwish end of an era concert with tarja, nemo, over the hills and far away and sleeping sun are all good ones, i also love ghost love score and it is my favourite version, but i will admit that is mostly nostalgia that helps it win over floors version.
Everdream from that concert too
new sub. great reaction, and we all cry, its good to be human. :) also check out Liliac, id suggest an initial viewing of one of their early covers like Crazy Train or Paranoid, or The Trooper. :)
Did you ever checked the whole video?
You missed the last part
Imagine that most german soldiers at this time where regular soldiers forced to fight and only want to survive another day. 😉
ADS ruined it !
you didnt saw the all video !
rewatch the end !
it even better !
Literally do Sabaton. Literally. just do
Also... yes. Sabaton has this weird habit of peeling garlic whenever I'm listening to their music. Super weird.
Wtf where is,the end? Bro really you missed the best. Anyway great reaction. But you must watch till the end.
Dude you must do En livstid i krig live.... and TURN ON THE SUBTITLES alot of reactors miss that.. and you lot dont understand swedish so... ;)
Oh no, you missed the end of the story.😢
You didn’t play the end really
What many people dont understand is that the Wehrmacht were the SOldiers of the country no matter who ruled it and soldiers were drafted basically every man older than 17. That was the Wehrmacht the army. That was not something political. The SS was political but the Wehrmacht and SS had inernal fights all over the place. In this video you can see how he veterans of WW1 drilled the Army with respect. The Brits did the same with their soldiers in WW1. Not shooting medics, not shooting parachuters on the way down, no war crimes... That was a code usually. The war crimes were done by the SS and then by brain washed young people in their late teens that grrew up with propaganda in their brain . You can see that in the Islamic state now. Brain Wash PS: He took down 33 other planes totally and the B17 took down an good share as well even civilians that day. That is not the moral. Its an order and Iam sure nobody is waking up and having to kill someone. This is about two people who killed but they show you a face behind the killer
Dude, you stopped too early! Go back and finish the video!
Every time dude, every time...
Btw, ever seen Night Witches?
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Dude, why did you stop the Video?!?! Watch the video TO THE END. YOU MISSED THE BEST PART STILL!
You didn't finish the vid!!!!!!
U didn’t watch it fully
4:40 you think this was scary? immagine to be one of the poor guys down on earth, that are hiding in their cellars with their kids, and hope and pray that they don`t get killed by the bombs....
i agree, they should have fighters escort for situation like this 3:44
unescorted bombers easy prey for enemy fighter squadrons
Dude...last scene wanker. lol
damn, never ever stop a Sabatron video before the end, you missed the best part. sorry, due to that no like.