Panasonic 24-70mm f2.8 - The Best Video Lens for LUMIX S5II/S5IIX/S5?
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- Welcome to my Panasonic 24-70mm f2.8 S Pro Zoom Lens review. This is the best zoom lens for the Panasonic S5II and S5IIX mirrorless camera. This deep dive review will cover everything you need to know about the LUMIX 24-70mm Panasonic lens for the L-Mount.
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00:00 - About this Video
00:15 - Discalimer (Loaner)
00:39 - HD120p Sample Video Footage Vlog Graded
01:17 - Build and Design (focus/zoom/focus clutch/filter thread)
02:07 - Manual Focus Clutch & Filter Thread Size
02:34 - Minimum Focusing Distance + Chromatic Aberration
03:23 - Handling
03:46 - Panasonic 24-70 full frame vs. Panasonic 12-35mm M43
04:09 - the 24-70 focal range overview
04:35 - Video Autofocus Performance
05:28 - Photographic Autofocus
05:49 - Focus Breathing
06:31 - Parfocal?
06:47 - Shooting Video Handheld
07:31 - F2.8, Background Blur, and 3D Pop
08:03 - Low Light Performance
08:25 - Full Frame vs. Micro Four Thirds
09:53 - Final Thoughts
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Good informative video. Thanks so much. You save me time in researching equipment due to your well explained demonstrated tutorials. You are honest and have a well trusted reputation, why I recommend your videos to everyone interested in non bias information. To me they get better every time, always worth watching.
As a GH5 -> S5ii convert, I had the 12-35 2.8 and 35-100 2.8 lenses form Pana, and have replaced those for the S5ii for the equivalent sigma 24-70 f2.8 and S Pro 70-200 f4. I consider the f4 tele-zoom the equivalent (or even better) due to the depth of field conversion between MFT and FF, giving me even at f4, a whole stop better separation (I care less abt the low light as the S5ii has insane ISO performance). I can honestly say that for similar MP sensors on GH5 and S5ii, the full frame glass is giving me much much sharper and overall better pictures as far as colour as well. All this to answer the question of “which would I take for travel” and my answer is the full frame setup, it’s just so much better in my experience.
Great video! I have this lens and agree with your assessment. It’s awesome! It doesn’t get the respect it deserves. Would love to see you review the LUMIX 70-200 f2.8 as well
24-105 is pretty decent too. And you get the synchronous dual image stabilization.
Yes, it is a pretty good lens and the dual image stabilization is really nice. To me it's a bit of a shame that the lens barrel extends so much when zooming (makes it more difficult to use on a gimbal), and if shooting 60p, with an aps-c crop, it is now a 35mm field of view. Also, on the S1 and original S5 series, the autofocus is pretty bad. My understanding is that the primes and the 20-60 might have better AF on the S1 and original S5 series. Don't know if there is much difference on the S5 II / IIX though.
24-105 also has great autofocus
This lens is good, however its major problem is the price.
I can buy the 24mm, the 35mm and the 50mm Lumix S Primes at f/1.8 for LESS than the cost of the 24-70mm f/2.8
And for around 2-300 Euro (depending on sales) I can add the traditional for portraits 85mm f/1.8 Lumix S
You also have the Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 for half the price (even if it is not as good in video)
To get the Panasonic Lumix S Pro 24-70mm f/2.8 you have to
1) Value the lens clears Leica Standards (that might be enough of a reason for you to buy it)
2) Be OK with the weight
3) Be OK with the size (I do not think a lot of people will use it for street photography)
4) Be OK with f/2.8
5) Be OK with the fact that you can buy 3 - 4 Panasonic Primes for the cost of one lens
Or you can look at investing in amazing glass and getting Leica results for half the price.
Me personally - as I need a second camera I will be spending money on the S5 IIX with the 50mm f/1.8
I already have the kit lens and the 35mm f/1.8 and as I want to develop my RUclips channel and want to take Night Club photos - the compactness and the f/1.8 of the primes suits me more.
@@JerimiahCook It is good that as consumers we have choices.
And even better that the primes being more affordable are still great quality lenses.
Great review Shane, especially since up until now, there haven't been many reviews of this lens.
My dream kit is this 24-70 s pro, the 18, and 85 1.8’s. Just waiting on the 18 and the camera to arrive so I can actually start using them all
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Video Chapters:
00:00 - About this Video
00:15 - Discalimer (Loaner)
00:39 - HD120p Sample Video Footage Vlog Graded
01:17 - Build and Design (focus/zoom/focus clutch/filter thread)
02:07 - Manual Focus Clutch & Filter Thread Size
02:34 - Minimum Focusing Distance + Chromatic Aberration
03:23 - Handling
03:46 - Panasonic 24-70 full frame vs. Panasonic 12-35mm M43
04:09 - the 24-70 focal range overview
04:35 - Video Autofocus Performance
05:28 - Photographic Autofocus
05:49 - Focus Breathing
06:31 - Parfocal?
06:47 - Shooting Video Handheld
07:31 - F2.8, Background Blur, and 3D Pop
08:03 - Low Light Performance
08:25 - Full Frame vs. Micro Four Thirds
09:53 - Final Thoughts
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Solid review. I’ve been considering this lens for a while.
I've been a stills shooter for years with MFT, but recently bought an S5 with the Sigma 24-70/2.8 DG DN. I love the S5, but it reinforces my contention that MFT kit will definitely be lighter and smaller than full frame no matter how small the camera gets because of the lenses. Mirrorless lenses are a bit smaller than old DSLR lenses, but not by that much. My G9 is about the same size as the S5, but tack on a lens and it's a whole different experience. BTW, the Sigma is also an outstanding lens. Thanks for the great review.
Brilliant video - would love to see a review of the 16-35mm PRO and even a comparison to this behemoth.
That lens is now on my 'want' list. Will go nicely with the Lumix 35, 50 & 85 f1.8 Primes and Lumix 20-60 Kit lens.
I've been geeking over this lens for a while...i have a 35, 50 and 85 which shorta covers the range but I hate switching lenses while doing work. Considered selling them to get this but resell value vs the cost of this lens made me stick with my primes until i earn enough to get it. The images and video with the 24-70 just look so good though 😅
For sure gonna get this lens
Thank you! :)
Thank you Shane for this great lens review video.
Thanks ! :)
@@GeekyNerdyTechy 🙏
Purchased this lens on sale with my S5ii body a couple of weeks ago. Great lens! Worth the investment!
Also, I wanted to say outstanding video and channel! Keep up the great work!
Thanks 🙏
Awesome rig! 😊
There is no doubting the value of the lens. The negatives are: The weight, and the lack of OSS, as well as its price.
If it's easy for you, I'd like to see a test with the Panasonic 24-105, f4 and the s5ii/s5iix.
It's lighter, has OSS, and half the price.
Thank you for the excellent review. How would you compare this to the cheaper Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 art lens?
I currently have the 20-60mm on my S1 as the standard walkabout lens. It's quite decent but not spectacular. I like spectacular. I also have some Canon EF L lenses adapted for L mount. Debating right now if I should get the Pana 24-70. One drawback I see is the lacks of OIS. I know there's IBS but OIS + IBS together is much better than one or the other. Also L-rumors has a teaser out about a possible new 28(?)-70 on Panasonic's roadmap.
I think people will be deciding between this and the Sigma version. I sold the Sigma 24-70 for the Lumix version because of the much better build quality and focus clutch. The Sigma has a nice image but can be a pain to handle for video shooting. The Lumix 24-70 is a dream for video.
My next lens ❤
Can you compare lumix 24-70 s pro with sigma 24-70 for L mount ?
This should perhaps been compared to the Leica 10-25 f1.7 instead. That even have the focus clutch. And better aperture. The only reason besides size to want the 12-35 is the possibility of Dual IS 2.0. Sadly you can't have it all in the same package.
Thanks for the review, Shane. While in a normal world, 24mm is plenty wide enough. But if you are going to shoot 4K at 50p / 60p (with the resulting aps-c crop), I think I would really want the slightly wider FOV of the 20-60mm. I was shooting a commercial in a small store with the Panasonic 24-105mm f/4 and the FOV was just too narrow :( Mark in Marin County
I wish panasonic released a pro 20-60 2.8
@@YanFries That would be sweet, but I would absolutely want lens stabilization on it. I've seen enough vidoes of the the current 20-60 when people are flogging to be concerned about the corner warping. that's one of the reasons why I am still holding on to my Canon EF 16-35 f/4 L, since it has pretty darn good lens stabilization, and when combined with the S5 / S1, avoids a lot of the corner warping at wide angles.
I was hoping for the size it was internal focusing and did not have to extend
Awesome review! Would you say this lens optically performs better than the Panasonic S-Series F1.8 primes?
Hi Shaun, thanks for the kind words. Overall, this lens is great but I'm not sure it's better than their prime lenses. The primes are small, fast, and light as well so it might be a deciding factor. If you are happy with F2.8, then this is a great choice as it will no doubt be cheaper than buying all of the other primes in this range.
Good point!. I enjoy using primes, although the 1.8 series seems to suffer from intense chromatic aberration. The flexibility of the 24-70 seems like a good alternative. I guess there’s a plus and minus for every camera purchase. Thanks for replying.
Great Video! Am thinking of getting a 85 1.8 for Portraits. Will this 70 f1.8 be good enough for that? Your opinion please.
Yes, but the 24-70 is a lot heavier than the 85. The 85 will also give you more background blur, but it's a little too much for some people. The 24-70 has a 2.8 and not 1.8 so it really depends on your requirements.
@@GeekyNerdyTechy Ok. Sorry I meant 28-70 f2.8 vs 85 f1.8 So this 70 mm f2.8 is also good for Portrait and may not a 85mm?
I thought about getting a G9 for wildlife because of the size of lenses. I ended up picking up the Fuji 150-600 (found a great price) which weighs 1605 grams. Guess I need to start lifting again 😂
Can you do a video comparison against New Sigma 24-70mm ii?I dont know if you have the opportunity to try, but what do you reckon?i didn't find any comparison about them
Sadly, I don't have the Sigma lens sorry mate.
Nice lens, but I’ll be sticking with M4/3 for travel. That weight, for that focal range, ouch.
Sad we don't get Panasonic Leica 16-35 F2.8. I need a lens like this that doesn't focus breathe, parfocal and have great contrast.
Panasonic has the best lenses for video. Little or no focus breathing. With Panasonic's ibis, it's a killer combo.
I want to sold sigma 24-70mm 2.8 and buy this lens, should I ?
If the sigma is doing the job, there's no reason to sell it.
In manual focus mode, the focusing speed is linear?
You can set your linear options in the camera preferences with the S5, S5II, and X.
how does it compare to sigma art?
need a comparison between the sigma 24-70 f2.8. Would like to know if the panasonic 24-70 is worth being double the price of the sigma.
The Sigma is a great lens optically. I actually owned it for a day for the E-Mount, but it was too big and heavy for me and I heard a lot of complaints with dust getting stuck under the elements pretty quickly so I took it back. I'll see if I can try the L-Mount one coming up.
@@GeekyNerdyTechy nice! Thanks
And also the Sigma is not as good for video applications.
So it depends on your needs and budget.
And for S5 ?? Auto focus performance?
It'll be about the same as the kit lens if you have that. Anything 2.8 or 3.5 usually performs pretty well on the original S5 for video. For Photography, it'll work great.
does it shoot 24fps cuz its not in the options?
Yes. You can set it to NTSC or true 24HZ. Check out my S5II tutorial videos for the timestamps.
@@GeekyNerdyTechy you should have just pasted the link
The 20-60 has no OIS.
We've had this lens for some years now. The overall quality is indeed amazing.
HOWEVER: for filmmaking, you should be aware that manual focusing is not smooth. You will be seeing "stepping". which is very noticeable on the longer side of the focal length. It will render the footage unusable.
This is a huge bummer. Panasonic praises the stepless motors inside this lens but they could not manage to assure that manual focusing stays smooth as well.
We've found a workaround that seems to reduce the issue a little bit: instead of pulling the focus clutch to manual, we leave it on autofocus and switch to manual on our camera.
Can you explain this phenomenon? I am considering buying it but if you can’t pull focus i might reconsider
@@KobusGevelspar well, you can focus but not smoothly, especially on higher focal length like 70mm. The problem is that, whether you focus in manual or auto mode, the motor is doing the focussing. With the Lumix 70-200 f4, the stepping is even worse.
Ever tried switching your copy for another one? We have two s pro lenses and both have smooth manual focus. I’ll also test it thoroughly in the camerashop for this model.
Will it work with Gh5?
This is a Full Frame L Mount lens it won't work on M43.
Why are people comparing the primes that cost $350-$1200 to the pro lens they are not on the same level . They are good but in certain situations they will show u why they are not pro . That’s why u pay the premium for better glass and in actuality the Panasonic 24-70 2.8 is prices below canon Rf ,Sony gm 24-70 2.8 lenses . The Panasonic may be the most superior of all 3 if not a close 2nd to canon Rf 24-70 2.8
I agree, the Panasonic is the best zoom I had with the SL 24-90mm, they are sharp yes, but they also have excellent contrast.
The Panasonic 24-70 2.8 is Damm near the same glass as the Leica version of the 24-70 2.8 that cost $3000 Panasonic 24-70 2.8 pro : 18 in 16 groups . Leica 24-70 2.8 : 19 elements 15 groups
Not really. The S Pro is much closer of the 24-90mm SL. They both draw almost the same. The 24-70mm Leica is very similar to the 24-70mm Sigma DG DN though, almost the same lens with different coating and build.
@@slows728 the Leica 24-70 2.8 is no place close to a sigma . lol Leica beats it easy ! Not even close . I have sigma primes which beat sigma zooms . Much sharper too . As for Panasonic pro zoom being close to the 24-90 I don’t know , I’m sure the Leica quality is superb but not much better and it’s not ideal for video because the Aperture on the leica 24-90 changes as u zoom which will change exposure unless u stay at f4 throughout the entire zoom ..I been there done that with Leica zooms . That’s why the Leica 24-70 2.8 is better than the Leica 24-90 2.8-f4 for video …2.8 throughout the entire zoom range . As for Panasonic pro zoom ..I talked with a leica rep about this that’s how I know the Panasonic pro 24-70 2.8 is the better choice and value per dollar over any of those Leica Branded lenses. The Panasonic 24-70 pro is a Leica lens ! Even he said so plus it’s more compatible with the s5ii as well . Panasonic 24-70 2.8 pro is one of the best zooms ever made from any brand
@@creativegreatsvisuals
I have/had all these lenses. You can search on the web, the optical formula of the Leica 24-70mm is exactly the same than the 24-70mm DG DN, this is the exact same lens rebadged by Leica.
However you can be sure the Leica version has better quality control and you will likely get better sharpness, better coating and better build quality than the Sigma (my sample of the Sigma was slightly less sharp and it was full of dust after some months ...).
And this is just my opinion but the 24-70mm S Pro and the 24-90mm have nicer output in my opinion, something about the contrast in the shadows in incredible.
But yes, the S Pro is a much better value. Some people prefer the f2.8 throughout the zoom, some people prefer the reach. I kept the 24-70mm S Pro because I prefer the fast aperture over the reach and also because of the price, but both are great (even if my sample of the S Pro 24-70mm is slightly sharper than my 24-90mm was).
The only difference, other than reach/aperture, are the colors, the Leica 24-90mm has nicer colors in my opinion, but it doesn't justify the much higher price of the Leica.
And I agree, the 24-70mm is the best 24-70mm you can get, even the 24-70mm GM II is not as good.
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Are Panasonic deliberately getting sponsors to ignore the original S series cameras? Strange especially as this lens is far better balanced on those larger bodies.
I just asked if I could borrow the lens to test as I've never tried it before. I have done quite a few videos on the original S5, I really dig that camera.
Whatta helpful wife ..😮
Great lens, too bad it's more than the camera Lol
These lenses have come down in price about 20% or so in some regions. This is their best lens and it's less expensive than the new G Master 24-70 :) (it's still pricey!)
Actually it wasn’t more expensive then the cameras. It‘s a S Pro designed für S1 &S1R. Small size was not really a target. All S Pro fit perfect to S1/S1R in regards handling. S1/S1R we’re much more expensive then the S5 range