forScore includes the same functionality as MIDI-Wrench - you can switch on the Bluetooth-MIDI-IN/OUT plugs on forScore: Settings -> MIDI -> Bluetooth-Midi-Devices -> MD-BT01 "connect"... Maybe this may help... 🙂
@HansMartinHoyer Hello Hans! Yes, when this video was made (now several years ago), I don't believe forScore had the ability to do this. It has since added this connection capability, and MIDI Wrench may no longer be needed.
This just changed my life as a gigging musician with hundreds of sounds for specific songs. Thank you soooooooo much, can’t wait to see it in action! Just programmed my entire setlist 😍
Hello @Fabian Janiczek This is so wonderful to hear and to know that these videos (and the work it takes to research and produce them) are all worth it. Thanks so much for reporting this and congrats on getting your entire setlist sorted out!!
@@MyKeysToMusic thanks for the response! Do you know about a pdf list of some sort, that represents all the nord banks/presets and the midi Programm changes that refer to/ trigger them? I haven‘t found such a list, but would be helpful to get things done faster without calculating all the time. I might make that list, if it doesn’t exist already.
@@Fabricks_music Great idea about the program changes list. In fact, I have made a list for this already for the Nord Stage 3, the Nord Wave 2, and the Nord Electro 6. These lists (PDF files) are all available within each professional course in the lesson for "OnSong" where I demonstrate how to change programs using OnSong. (OnSong is a bit like forScore and can change programs in a similar way). So, these lists are available to all students enrolled in those courses as an additional way to add value for those making the investment in the pro training. 👍 In addition to finding it within each of the pro training courses, I also make these lists available on my Patreon account which is a very simple way to get all the lists by becoming a member of that. The price is much lower if you just want to grab and go and are not ready to take on the full training. On Patreon, you'll find the lists under the post for "OnSong". Here are the links for both sources: www.MyKeysToMusic.com and www.Patreon.com/MyKeysToMusic
Glad to hear this! Have a good time on your cruise ship work. I have a few students enrolled in my courses who also work on cruise ships and use Nord boards.
Marc, another fantastic video. I have been using forscore for the last 12-15 months. A bassist, who was also a university student with me - and who is a pro musician on the side - recommended it to me. I have been very happy with forscore, but was probably only using 5% of it‘s potential. When it comes to my Electro 6 that number may be 25%. With your help I am constantly increasing my usage of my equipment - now true also with forscore. Thx Marc!
Wow, great to hear about all this. I guess the combination of Electro 6 and forScore is not so unusual after all! You mentioned you are a university student. Are you attending music school?
My Keys To Music ... no, no, misunderstanding - I am a university professor, but not in music (technology & management). I had a student who has started his management career by now. He financed himself during his university studies thru gigs as a professional musician on the weekends; he has a lot of live experience and he used forscore for a while and actually nothing else when he did his gigs
My Keys To Music And Thx to you Marc ... for your attentiveness and for your great Nord centered channel ... I have already learned a lot about my Electro 6 that without your help had remained a secret to me!
Hey Marc, I just ordered the NS4 😀 Since it has no songmode (unfortunately) I'm gonna use my Androidtablet with the Mobilesheets app (= essentially forscore for android) to do the part changes. As bluetooth wireless device I'll use the CME Widimaster which seems to have beter specs then the Yamaha you demonstrate. (I've no connection with CME btw) . In the NS4 manual the midi controller list doesn't mention yet the numbers to use so I'll try those from NS3. This just to let you know. And thanks for your livestream on NS4. You were right on most expectations. I change from NS3 to NS4 especially because of the keybed. And the extra synth is nice too. Unfortunately no more then 2 Gb piano memory already on NS3 and I regret also they didn't re-implement the led-accompanied effect buttons (as on NS2) which I found particularly useful when using morph: on NS3/4 you can't see what morphing does. But still: Nord makes great instruments! Greetings, Michiel
Hello @Michiel Pam Thanks for your comment and perspective. I agree with you on your points here. Song Mode s the biggest potential deal breaker for people looking to upgrade but in most other ways, the Stage 4 has it all. I think people will especially like how the Extern and Dual Keyboard options work now along with scenes. Thanks for following the channel and for your support! Now, the only hard part left is waiting for it!
Woah Marc. Had no idea this existed! Game-changer. I use forScore a lot but needed a way to quickly access Nord Stage 3 programs that aren't necessarily in a pre-planned order. Thanks Marc!
This could be a real game changer in my case. I am playing tons of different songs using specific programs on a gig and have a spreadsheet notating all of them. And since I’m already using ForScore on the gig, being able to automatically change programs for a given song would make my life SOOOOO much easier! I plan to try this out ASAP. Thank you (and the student with the idea) for making this video! Otherwise I would have not known this was possible
Hey @Karl Montzka Thanks for sharing the story here and it's so rewarding to know these videos are helping people discover new ways to save time and be efficient (and also to have some fun along the way). Drop us a line if you get it working.
Can you please advise on which iPad I should buy for this whole procedure you videoed. This is exactly what i want to do live. i will put the ipad on a holder probably. also, i will sing and maybe use some mp3 tracks that I create. So, an iPad that will give me all these functions. Thanks again.
@solojim Hey Jim. Anything being sold in an Apple store today should easily handle anything that forScore can throw at it. So, find the size you like and get something in your budget in that size. If you want something that will "last longer" - from a processing standpoint, you could go Pro. You might like the really big screens they offer too. However, even the basic "IPad" model (their base model) could easily run forScore. Honestly, I'd let size be your biggest decision and then work your way back from that. *More commentary about this:* If this is your first iPad, consider this. They are very versatile. You could use it for your music on one day, and then watch movies from it the next. If you do plan on getting into "music composition/recording" and want to use it as a DAW, then you might lean a little towards getting a more powerful one. However, I'm of the opinion that it's easier to compose music with a DAW that is computer-based versus an iPad. But that could be me just being a computer-oriented dude since 1986. My mouse and keyboard can run circles around anything I could possibly create on the iPad. But for the forScore stuff, it's great and many musicians (as you know) are using the iPad to replace the piles of paper-oriented sheet music running around everywhere. It does work well for a set-list controller, too. 👍 Best of luck!
Wow! I love your video's but used it not enough to justify payment. But his video makes me go to patreon right away. You deserve it! (I rather would pay 1 amount of money at once, but a subscription is also ok). I have tried to get this midi to work for almost a year... no change. Bought the Yamaha stuff, but never could use it. After this video it worked right away. Your brilliant!!
Wow, that's terrific news! So glad this video got you over the hurdle and now you can use your stuff! Thanks too for being a Patron! Yes, I'm looking for a donation site that will help me accept one-time payments rather than the subscription model of Patreon. Thanks again for sharing this progress with us. Hopefully, it will get others over the hurdle too.
Hi Marc. Thanks again for this video. I wanted to ask if this midi cable will work with my Nord E6 and StagTraxx3 wirelessly. I might get both programs, but ST offers a bit more. I wonder if I need MIDI-wrench for the ST hookup>
@solojim Hey Jim. I love the look of that program you found, "Stage Traxx3" because it seems to specialize in just the chord chart (versus the complete sheet music). Also, the MIDI-wrench was required for older versions of the iPad and software. Nowadays, you will likely be able to directly connect your device to a given wireless MIDI solution without the need for a helper program such as MIDI wrench. By the way, I'm now recommending the WIDI products from CME as they are more modern and flexible than the previous versions of Yamaha products etc. Here's an affiliate link to research this solution: - Wireless MIDI system (CME WIDI Master, Wireless MIDI): amzn.to/3wTcWOt
Super helpful! One question: If I just used the MDI usb port from my NS4 to my iPad (USB-A --> USB-C) do you think it might connect withoud using the mentioned Wireless MIDI device?
It appears that starting with forScore 3.1, there is no need for MIDI Wrench to make the wireless (using the Yamaha MD-BT01) connection. I've been successful connecting with only Forscore Settings / MIDI / Bluetooth MIDI Devices / MD-BT01 and no MIDI Wrench.
This is fantastic news @Jazz Man - thanks for reporting that. Anything to make life easier for people making these connections is a step in the right direction!
Heya Mike! To "reset" the synth engine on your Nord Stage 3 while on any program, you can hold the shift button while pushing the "Sound Init" button. Then select "OK' using the buttons below the main OLED display in the middle of the keyboard. Pro tip: You can hold the shift key while pushing the Sound Init button twice to accomplish the same thing. Resetting the synth engine is helpful to create a synth sound from scratch. Don't forget to save it to a program if you like what you're creating. 😄
Your videos are outstanding ! Thank you sir! I’d like to request that you show how to send MSB and LSB program changes to external modules using the extern function on the nord stage 3. I have a motif XS module, an Integra 7, and a Korg Triton and would love to be able to send program changes via saved patch’s on the nord to incorporate the sounds. Would I need a midi patch bay or would daisy chaining them together work? I’d be willing to pay for your research on this topic. Please keep up the stellar work that you are doing here on RUclips your information is clear and concise and valuable. Best... Daniel Colfer.
Thanks so much Daniel for your comment and request. I have a video that explains the MSB and LSB stuff via the Extern feature in the full paid course on my site and in the interest of keeping value in the course for the existing students, I'm going to keep it there. But it's the same concept on the Stage 3. When a program changes, you can have the Stage 3 send "on load" program changes through the Extern area and you'll find this in the system settings of your Stage 3. There you'll see the same MSB and LSB options just like you do in the video here. Good luck with this and thanks for watching! Full course link in the description above if interested.
My Keys To Music Does your course provide step by step instructions on how to connect multiple modules, set midi channels, discuss wether a midi patch bay is needed and if so how to incorporate that device? Align with how to identify and apply MSB and LSB values along with program change midi CC so I can press a program on the Nord stage 3 and have it change the programs on all of my modules? If so, Id be glad to pay for your course. I would prefer a one time charge as opposed to a monthly commitment as most of the other content I am fairly familiar with. Again... thank you so much for your great work here on RUclips. I would love to have the knowledge to be able to present the information as you do with clever graphics and sound quality. Id be interested in a course that teaches that as well. I guess that would be RUclips production and presentation techniques. Best...
@@danielcolfer4671 Hi Daniel. Sorry for the delay on this response here. The answer is yes and no. I have a lesson that explains how to use the Extern function to send program changes using MSB and LSB upon load. It doesn't talk about a MIDI patch bay or what is needed in a complex setup. It assumes the Nord Stage 3 to something like the Nord Electro 6 for example with a single MIDI cable between the two. And your question about how I make my videos. I use a combination of Keynote and Screenflow for the Mac. The techniques I use are described very well here if you want to get started with that sort of thing: ruclips.net/video/_TBazwfahYw/видео.html Thanks for your questions!
My Keys To Music Thanks for your rapid reply. I’m sure you have quite a few comments and questions to respond to. I’m excited about digging into the technology surrounding hardware and soft synths and how they can be organized and controlled via computers, iPads and midi implementation. The sounds available for the iPad have become quite impressive and incorporating all of this technology (hardware like the nord keyboards, computer,s, software etc) has vast potential for music performance and creativity. The videos you present contribute greatly to this endeavor. Many thanks!
Hi Marc, I'm getting a Nord Grand in August or September when they are available at my local music store. I'm wondering is there is a piece of software for Windows 10 similar to forScore. I know a MAC is more compatible to music software but I only have PCs. Thanks for your very interesting videos.
Hello, @Maurice Richard Thanks for your comment and question. I did a little research and came up with this solution called "Mobile Sheets" found here: www.zubersoft.com/mobilesheets/ There may be others but this is the first one that showed up. I haven't used it personally so you'll have to check it out and read about it more etc. Best of luck and enjoy your Nord Grand in the fall...
Dear Marc, thank you for this great video. I've been looking for this kind of a my solution quite a while, but now I've adopted exactly your setup. The only thing that strikes me as particularly cumbersome s da right now, is the way I'm supposed to enter over 200 program changes into Forscore... Do I really have to solve this totally confusing math problem every time in order to find exactly the right memory location and enter it into each associated sheet?
Hey Marc, hope you're doing well. Happy new year ;). I've got a question, but it is a little of topic. I bought Ableton Suite to use along my stage 3, but I keep of course using the stage a lot for piano's. I make different patches now, 3-10 per song depending on the song, and put them in order in song mode. Works fantastic. Now, would it be possible to give these Nord programs a 'midi number' and let ableton time my predets? I time the ableton presets already and would like ableton to tell Nord the same ;)
Hello @Nathan Daniel. The answer is yes. You could have Ableton send a program change directly to the song mode area. The trick is that you have to set specific MSB and LSB numbers. This can be tricky at first and if you've never done it before. I have a lesson that talks about this for the program area (not in song mode) found in the Master the Nord Stage 3 course. If you were to sign up, I could make one specific to song mode and Ableton for you. I assume it's Ableton Live? If you want to tackle this directly, you can check out the Stage 3 manual in the MIDI area where it talks about MSB and LSB.
This is great!!! Can I backup the fourscore midi settings or export it .... or in other words: what is with all my midi settings, when my iPad is broken?
@huttererflorian Thank you for your comment and question. I recommend reading this excerpt directly from the manufacturer on how backups and settings are handled: forscore.co/kb/understanding-backups-syncing-and-icloud/ Thanks for watching!
Hi Marc, what a great video! Have you tried to send the PC from the ipad to the Nord through the USB cable with camera connection kit? Does it work too?
Hi Fernando. I'm not 100% sure to be honest. I'm betting you have a better than 50% chance that it will work. If you test this and find out, do report back please.
Hi,thanks for your videos.They help a lot all the time. Also partly because of them I bought Nord:) I have I rig midi 2 and can’t connect Nord with iPad. Which “midi control Change “ settings must be installed?
Hello Valeriy, I'm happy the videos have helped! So, which Nord model do you have exactly? You say you can't connect the iRig MIDI 2 to your Nord? Did you try loading the MIDI Wrench app on your iPad? Do you see the iRig MIDI 2 in your Bluetooth settings on your iPad? If yes, then you have to make sure your Nord is set to the correct MIDI channel and that's ready to accept "program changes" - you'll find this either in the "System" menu (for the Electro family) or under the "MIDI" settings for the Stage family.
My Keys To Music I have Nord electro 6d, and it’s connected to midi wrench.I rig receives “midi out” signal from virtual keyboard in iPad, but it can’t receive “Midi in”. To my mind there is a problem in this.
@@valeriylysenko576 Hmm, this is strange. Within the MIDI Wrench program on my end, I'm able to play notes on the iPad and hear them on the Nord and I'm also able to play the Nord and hear GarageBand sound on the iPad. Oh and here's a tip: GarageBand on the iPad, it will NOT send out MIDI to any instrument. Like the Desktop version of GarageBand, it doesn't appear to have the ability to send MIDI signals outbound to externally connected keyboards. So, GarageBand will only let you test MIDI coming in, not out. MIDI Wrench should let you "see" the data stream coming in when you play your Nord (the text screen on the right within the main screen of MIDI Wrench program).
Dear Marc, you are an angel. I would like to ask you if it´s possible to change Song on the Nord instead of the Program? That would be handy since many of my Songs consists of 2 o 3 Programs.
Hey Karl! Great question here. So, if you want to have it change the song instead of the program, you can simply change the MSB number to 1 instead of 0 in the software. I briefly cover that in the video at approx 12:08 ruclips.net/video/D1sWPR-k7oE/видео.html With the Nord Stage 3, you can change from four different areas like so: MSB: 0 = Programs MSB: 1 = Songs MSB: 2 = Synth Presets MSB: 6 = Live list
@@MyKeysToMusic For Programs it´s working for me, but not for Songs. When I set ForeScore to 1 1 0 12 for example, I got program 1:03 on my Nord. I hoped to get song 1:13. Do I have to do any further settings?
@@KalleCanto Hello! Not to worry here. Song mode on a Nord Stage 3 works in a slightly more advanced way. Because songs have parts (5 parts for each song to be exact), you have to calibrate your program numbers in groups of 5 instead of 1. Also, keep in mind that the program numbers are still zero-based in song mode so you have to compensate for that too. Finally, the MIDI numbers (LSB groupings) used by the Nord Song list are based on 0-124 (for a total of 125 locations). So, you'll have to think in MIDI groups of 125 every time you increment the LSB number. Note this differs from what is written in the manual (English version, Edition "L", page 52). The manual states that LSB grouping is 0-99 for song lists but I have found it to be similar to the program list which is grouped as 0-124. Here are some examples which will make this a bit more clear hopefully: Song 1:01, Part 1 = LSB: 0, Program: 0 Song 1:01, Part 3 = LSB: 0, Program: 2 Song 1:02, Part 1 = LSB: 0, Program: 5 Song 1:02, Part 4 = LSB: 0, Program: 8 Song 1:13, Part 1 = LSB: 0, Program: 60 Song 1:13, Part 5 = LSB: 0, Program 64 Song 1:26, Part 1 = LSB: 1, Program 0 Song 1:27, Part 2 = LSB: 1, Program 6 Song 1:48, Part 3 = LSB: 1, Program 112 Song 2:01, Part 1 = LSB, 2, Program 0 Song 2:05, Part 1 = LSB: 2, Program 20 Song 3:17, Part 3 = LSB: 4, Program 82 Someone who has time could create a mathematical formula to calculate this perhaps! Since there are 8 banks of 50 songs each, that means there are 2,000 song parts that are selectable in this way!
@@MyKeysToMusic Ok, I understand, since you are so great at explain things. Yes it should be good to have an excel sheet to quickly see which settings correspond to songs one, two, three, four etc.
@@KalleCanto You can find a brand new chart called "Nord Stage 3 Song Mode (MIDI Program Change Chart)" available as an exclusive perk to my Patreon Patrons here: www.patreon.com/MyKeysToMusic. I had to create a database/script routine to auto calculate the increments to do the math for the 2,000 song part records. Without a chart, it's going to require a calculator and some head-scratching if anyone is new to this. Great suggestion today! 😄
Hi first of al: brilliant tutorial. I have one question. Is it possible to turn a page in the app with the third pedal on the nord triple pedal unit. I am looking to buy a page turner but if I can use it like this that wouldn't be necessary. Thanks in advance. (Sorry for my bad english)
Thank you Milan! Unfortunately, I don't think this is possible at all. The Nord Triple Pedal is a one-trick wonder designed to imitate pedal noise and all the things that these traditional piano pedals do for the Stage 3 piano engine. There is no way to reprogram these pedals or use one as an external MIDI page-turner trigger as you suggested. This is a NEAT idea however and you are really good to think outside the box on that one. This is the first time anyone asked a question like this but I really like the concept.
@@MyKeysToMusic I got the idea from the roland keyboards. I am looking around for a new keyboard and I read that it was possible with the roland fp 90. But on the roland the ports to plug the pedal in are seperated. So you can plug in 3 different pedals with 3 different jacks. And I think that is not possible on the nord. But thanks for your fast response.
Wow!! TOTAL game changer! THANK YOU!! Got the Yamaha MD-BT01 and MIDI Wrench app and was changing patches in the Nord within 5 minutes of connecting the iPad via Bluetooth. I also use the IK Blueboard foot pedal for page turns in ForScore via bluetooth - and everything there still works like a charm too. Could this day get any better?
@@GraceE-Free I love stories like this. And thus, we witness first-hand the power of RUclips and the amazing era we live in. Sure, there's a LOT in the world which isn't going so great right now, but online learning is alive and healthy! Give yourself a pat on the back because you've done some pretty advanced MIDI stuff with all this. So, about your question. If forScore can send out MIDI clock data, the Nord can receive it so long as it's on the global channel on the Nord.
@@MyKeysToMusic I don't think forScore has an option to send out MIDI clock data. When I select MIDI in song info, the only SEND options are Program Change, Hex Codes, Song Select, Delay, and Learn... I'm not sure what LEARN does and I can't seem to find forScore documentation on the MIDI send features.
@@GraceE-Free So you're right. It doesn't look like there is any kind of MIDI clock capability which means that there is no way to control the BPM on the Nord from forScore. And I think "Learn" allows you to quickly assign a program by switching to it on the Nord while you are setting things up on forScore (saves you a step in figuring out the numbers). Incidently, another program (the competition to forScore) called _OnSong_ does provide MIDI clock out - so that's interesting.
@@MyKeysToMusic hey, but that's helpful about the "learn" option. That will be a big time saver, as the patch numbering system for the Nord is cumbersome to calculate and convert. Thank you yet again!
Hello, thanks a lot for this video, it is a great solution. When using 2 keyboards on stage, do I use 2 MD-BT01 to make the program change, on the keyboards at the same time? Or do I have to connect the 2 keyboards together trough midi.
Hello Jean-Paul. Great news! I just tested connecting two Nord Keyboards with MIDI over Bluetooth. One keyboard was connected to the MD-BT01 and the other was connected to the UD-BT01. I then used MIDI Wrench to connect the two on the iPad. Then in forScore, I simply added a second program change when the song opens. (I could also make 2 buttons - one button for Nord 1 and one button for Nord 2). When you do this, just make sure that you assign the keyboards to different MIDI channels. I think this method would be much easier (more reliable) than trying to daisy chain one Nord to the other. So use 2 Bluetooth devices and you should be good to go. Please report back if you take these steps and confirm after you test on your end too pls.
I am trying to figure out how to receive not send. Where I send MIDI notes or Program changes with a DAW (Ableton Live) to call up a song and even turn pages automatically along the click timeline. I have done this with Music Stand and On Song. But ForScore seems to be a little tougher to figure out how to get MIDI in... when I choose Receive Shortcuts MIDI won't even appear in the Metadata panel. I know this is more about the Nord application, but you seem to be the most reliable source I have found with the MIDI side of thing in ForScore.
Hello Geared for Worship! So, I have figured out one small part of this and it inspired a video where I featured you comment here: ruclips.net/video/88R3bNeO4iQ/видео.html. Haven't figured out how to turn the pages. My recommendation at this point is to upgrade to the Pro version of forScore and then work directly with their tech support people to ask the same questions. They should be able to point you in the right direction. If and when you find out how to do this, please share back here and perhaps I'll do a follow up video or at the very least, I can help others who ask down the road. Many thanks!
I have verified that this does work with the apple USB-C to Digital AV adapter using a Nord Stage 2EX and an Ipad Pro 11. Global Channel 1, Midi Prog Change Mode Set to Send&Rec.
First of all: Great video! It’s really useful. Is it possible to control 2 keyboards simultaneously with 2 MD-BT01 connected to the same iPad? I need to change program at my NS3 and Wave at the same time and I used to have the Wave receive PC from the NS3, which isn’t possible with the MD-BT01, since it’s occupying both midi in + out.
Thanks Andreas! So yes, this should be very possible because forScore allows for MULTIPLE MIDI settings (program changes) when you load a new piece of music thereby allowing you to change to multiple keyboards at the same time (each on their own MIDI channel of course). Along with this, the MIDI Wrench software also allows simultaneous connections to multiple Bluetooth MIDI devices which is also necessary. Although I didn't test this personally, I'm feeling confident that this should work for you based on the two MIDI devices I have here from Yamaha and the fact that both can be connected via the iPad at the same time. Good luck and please report back if you pursue this to confirm it for all of us. Thanks!
@@MyKeysToMusic It works - and it's really simple to do the setup: It requires 2 x MD-BT101 + the software "MIDI Wrench" and "forScore" mentioned in the video. Simply type two different MIDI-commands for your normal program-change - I made it work by using the commands: NS3: Ch 1, MSB 0, LSB 0, (program destination) Nord Wave: Ch 2, MSB 0, LSB 0, (program destination) Good luck, guys!
Hi Frank. In theory, you should be able to do this because ForScore allows you to send multiple program changes upon opening (or within a button, etc.) Of course, you'll need to set the keyboard and BeatBuddy to different MIDI channels. But yes, it should work no problem. Note that I didn't personally test this. Good luck! On a side note, I've been considering a beat buddy or something like it. I'll have to research it more to ensure it sends out clock signals.
Hey Marc, first off all good tutorial. Is it possible to power the MD-BT01 from only 1 connection? So does it work when I only want to recieve midi messages and I don't plug in the send midi connector? Maybe it is a weird question, but I'm also a guitar player and I use a multi effect peddal and this only has a midi out port and no midi in. So I wanted to know if I could use it with that too. Thanks in Advance.
@Milan Michielsen-Stevens Thanks for your question and sorry for the delay. Yes, I tested this just now and it works with JUST the MIDI out (from the Nord keyboard MIDI out only). In fact, the MIDI out port appears to be where the MD-BT101 gets the power from. Let's hope that your multi-effect pedal powers the MIDI out port too. So yes, I think you should have no problem with this. Incidentally, I tested it with only the MIDI In and that doesn't work because the power light didn't on the MD-BT101. So, the MIDI out is the minimum requirement so it would seem. Good luck and report back if you can.
So Marc, great video. Really informative. Just a question... if you go down the Yamaha route to implement wireless program changes, can you still wirelessly turn pages? If you use the wireless Bluetooth for the program changes I assume you then can’t turn pages. Thoughts and comments would be appreciated.
Hi James. I don't see why this wouldn't work. I assume that the signals to turn the pages are independent of the signals that send the program changes. The question is will the page turn mechanism force the "on load" mechanism as well? I'm leaning towards "no problem, this should work" but I don't have a definite way to prove it at the moment. If you come to find this out before we do, let us know how it goes please! Thanks for the great question.
Hi Claudio! Yes, no problem at all. I use my Nord Stage 3 all the time as a MIDI controller to Logic Pro X. In fact, I have a somewhat related video talking about recording the Nord Stage 3 into GarageBand as well. I use the Focusrite 18I8 interface which handles audio and MIDI of course: ruclips.net/video/UU6j5o3YfaA/видео.html
@@claudiobenitez6665 This is potentially a loaded question. The short answer is no, not really. When it comes to sending MIDI from the Stage 3 out, there is an Extern section that provides accommodations to send MIDI CC (control changes) out but it's not really designed to be a true controller in the traditional sense with a built-in stop and play button like you see on most MIDI controller keyboards these days. I hope I'm understanding your question correctly.
forScore includes the same functionality as MIDI-Wrench - you can switch on the Bluetooth-MIDI-IN/OUT plugs on forScore: Settings -> MIDI -> Bluetooth-Midi-Devices -> MD-BT01 "connect"... Maybe this may help... 🙂
@HansMartinHoyer Hello Hans! Yes, when this video was made (now several years ago), I don't believe forScore had the ability to do this. It has since added this connection capability, and MIDI Wrench may no longer be needed.
@@MyKeysToMusic Hello Marc, thank you so much for your video - it was very helpful at all! :-)
@@HansMartinHoyer Happy to do it - thanks for watching!
This just changed my life as a gigging musician with hundreds of sounds for specific songs. Thank you soooooooo much, can’t wait to see it in action! Just programmed my entire setlist 😍
Hello @Fabian Janiczek This is so wonderful to hear and to know that these videos (and the work it takes to research and produce them) are all worth it. Thanks so much for reporting this and congrats on getting your entire setlist sorted out!!
@@MyKeysToMusic thanks for the response! Do you know about a pdf list of some sort, that represents all the nord banks/presets and the midi Programm changes that refer to/ trigger them? I haven‘t found such a list, but would be helpful to get things done faster without calculating all the time. I might make that list, if it doesn’t exist already.
@@Fabricks_music Great idea about the program changes list. In fact, I have made a list for this already for the Nord Stage 3, the Nord Wave 2, and the Nord Electro 6. These lists (PDF files) are all available within each professional course in the lesson for "OnSong" where I demonstrate how to change programs using OnSong. (OnSong is a bit like forScore and can change programs in a similar way). So, these lists are available to all students enrolled in those courses as an additional way to add value for those making the investment in the pro training. 👍
In addition to finding it within each of the pro training courses, I also make these lists available on my Patreon account which is a very simple way to get all the lists by becoming a member of that. The price is much lower if you just want to grab and go and are not ready to take on the full training. On Patreon, you'll find the lists under the post for "OnSong".
Here are the links for both sources: www.MyKeysToMusic.com and www.Patreon.com/MyKeysToMusic
Super helpful, thank you
@mypocketdojo Glad you found it helpful!
Thanks a lot. I used this to control my Beatbuddy.
Oh that's cool! Great use for this feature @Aaga
so awesome thank you
@solojim Thanks Jim!
Awesome! Going to work on a cruise ship soon and this comes handy. Thanks a lot!
Glad to hear this! Have a good time on your cruise ship work. I have a few students enrolled in my courses who also work on cruise ships and use Nord boards.
Marc, another fantastic video. I have been using forscore for the last 12-15 months. A bassist, who was also a university student with me - and who is a pro musician on the side - recommended it to me. I have been very happy with forscore, but was probably only using 5% of it‘s potential. When it comes to my Electro 6 that number may be 25%. With your help I am constantly increasing my usage of my equipment - now true also with forscore. Thx Marc!
Wow, great to hear about all this. I guess the combination of Electro 6 and forScore is not so unusual after all! You mentioned you are a university student. Are you attending music school?
My Keys To Music ... no, no, misunderstanding - I am a university professor, but not in music (technology & management). I had a student who has started his management career by now. He financed himself during his university studies thru gigs as a professional musician on the weekends; he has a lot of live experience and he used forscore for a while and actually nothing else when he did his gigs
@@MehrSpaamSpaHabenHaben Ah got it! Thanks for the clarification and sharing this.
My Keys To Music And Thx to you Marc ... for your attentiveness and for your great Nord centered channel ... I have already learned a lot about my Electro 6 that without your help had remained a secret to me!
@@MehrSpaamSpaHabenHaben Great to hear this! Thanks for watching and for being part of the group here.
Hey Marc, I just ordered the NS4 😀
Since it has no songmode (unfortunately) I'm gonna use my Androidtablet with the Mobilesheets app (= essentially forscore for android) to do the part changes. As bluetooth wireless device I'll use the CME Widimaster which seems to have beter specs then the Yamaha you demonstrate. (I've no connection with CME btw) . In the NS4 manual the midi controller list doesn't mention yet the numbers to use so I'll try those from NS3.
This just to let you know.
And thanks for your livestream on NS4. You were right on most expectations. I change from NS3 to NS4 especially because of the keybed. And the extra synth is nice too. Unfortunately no more then 2 Gb piano memory already on NS3 and I regret also they didn't re-implement the led-accompanied effect buttons (as on NS2) which I found particularly useful when using morph: on NS3/4 you can't see what morphing does. But still: Nord makes great instruments!
Greetings, Michiel
Hello @Michiel Pam Thanks for your comment and perspective. I agree with you on your points here. Song Mode s the biggest potential deal breaker for people looking to upgrade but in most other ways, the Stage 4 has it all. I think people will especially like how the Extern and Dual Keyboard options work now along with scenes. Thanks for following the channel and for your support! Now, the only hard part left is waiting for it!
Woah Marc. Had no idea this existed! Game-changer. I use forScore a lot but needed a way to quickly access Nord Stage 3 programs that aren't necessarily in a pre-planned order. Thanks Marc!
Happy to do it @Gene Kelly An thanks for the support on the channel and in the My Keys To Music school. 👍🏻Keep up the great work!
This could be a real game changer in my case. I am playing tons of different songs using specific programs on a gig and have a spreadsheet notating all of them. And since I’m already using ForScore on the gig, being able to automatically change programs for a given song would make my life SOOOOO much easier! I plan to try this out ASAP. Thank you (and the student with the idea) for making this video! Otherwise I would have not known this was possible
Hey @Karl Montzka Thanks for sharing the story here and it's so rewarding to know these videos are helping people discover new ways to save time and be efficient (and also to have some fun along the way). Drop us a line if you get it working.
Very good!
@caduevivi Hi Carlos - Thank you!
Thank You🙏🏻 Those are good tools for me.
Glad to help at this! Thanks for the comment…
Can you please advise on which iPad I should buy for this whole procedure you videoed. This is exactly what i want to do live. i will put the ipad on a holder probably. also, i will sing and maybe use some mp3 tracks that I create. So, an iPad that will give me all these functions. Thanks again.
@solojim Hey Jim. Anything being sold in an Apple store today should easily handle anything that forScore can throw at it. So, find the size you like and get something in your budget in that size. If you want something that will "last longer" - from a processing standpoint, you could go Pro. You might like the really big screens they offer too. However, even the basic "IPad" model (their base model) could easily run forScore. Honestly, I'd let size be your biggest decision and then work your way back from that.
*More commentary about this:* If this is your first iPad, consider this. They are very versatile. You could use it for your music on one day, and then watch movies from it the next. If you do plan on getting into "music composition/recording" and want to use it as a DAW, then you might lean a little towards getting a more powerful one. However, I'm of the opinion that it's easier to compose music with a DAW that is computer-based versus an iPad. But that could be me just being a computer-oriented dude since 1986. My mouse and keyboard can run circles around anything I could possibly create on the iPad. But for the forScore stuff, it's great and many musicians (as you know) are using the iPad to replace the piles of paper-oriented sheet music running around everywhere. It does work well for a set-list controller, too. 👍
Best of luck!
Thanks for sharing
Thanks for your comment, Iñigo
Wow! I love your video's but used it not enough to justify payment. But his video makes me go to patreon right away. You deserve it! (I rather would pay 1 amount of money at once, but a subscription is also ok). I have tried to get this midi to work for almost a year... no change. Bought the Yamaha stuff, but never could use it. After this video it worked right away. Your brilliant!!
Wow, that's terrific news! So glad this video got you over the hurdle and now you can use your stuff! Thanks too for being a Patron! Yes, I'm looking for a donation site that will help me accept one-time payments rather than the subscription model of Patreon. Thanks again for sharing this progress with us. Hopefully, it will get others over the hurdle too.
Thank you Marc, very usefull tutorial!
Thanks Cees!
Great video thanks for this !!
Happy to do it Paul! Thanks for your comment here.
Hi Marc. Thanks again for this video. I wanted to ask if this midi cable will work with my Nord E6 and StagTraxx3 wirelessly. I might get both programs, but ST offers a bit more. I wonder if I need MIDI-wrench for the ST hookup>
@solojim Hey Jim. I love the look of that program you found, "Stage Traxx3" because it seems to specialize in just the chord chart (versus the complete sheet music). Also, the MIDI-wrench was required for older versions of the iPad and software. Nowadays, you will likely be able to directly connect your device to a given wireless MIDI solution without the need for a helper program such as MIDI wrench. By the way, I'm now recommending the WIDI products from CME as they are more modern and flexible than the previous versions of Yamaha products etc. Here's an affiliate link to research this solution: - Wireless MIDI system (CME WIDI Master, Wireless MIDI): amzn.to/3wTcWOt
Great content! Really helpful! :)
Glad to hear this Sonic Acoustics! - Thanks for watching and your comment...
This was EPIC!!!! So awesome. Thank you!!!
Glad you like it Trevor!
Brilliant Stuff!
Thanks Web! Glad you like it...
Super helpful! One question: If I just used the MDI usb port from my NS4 to my iPad (USB-A --> USB-C) do you think it might connect withoud using the mentioned Wireless MIDI device?
It appears that starting with forScore 3.1, there is no need for MIDI Wrench to make the wireless (using the Yamaha MD-BT01) connection. I've been successful connecting with only Forscore Settings / MIDI / Bluetooth MIDI Devices / MD-BT01 and no MIDI Wrench.
This is fantastic news @Jazz Man - thanks for reporting that. Anything to make life easier for people making these connections is a step in the right direction!
Awesome video Marc! What were those three buttons you push to clear the synth screen? I know “sound initiation” was one of them...
Heya Mike! To "reset" the synth engine on your Nord Stage 3 while on any program, you can hold the shift button while pushing the "Sound Init" button. Then select "OK' using the buttons below the main OLED display in the middle of the keyboard. Pro tip: You can hold the shift key while pushing the Sound Init button twice to accomplish the same thing. Resetting the synth engine is helpful to create a synth sound from scratch. Don't forget to save it to a program if you like what you're creating. 😄
My Keys To Music thank you!
@@mikecampbell4349 Always a pleasure Mike!
Your videos are outstanding ! Thank you sir! I’d like to request that you show how to send MSB and LSB program changes to external modules using the extern function on the nord stage 3. I have a motif XS module, an Integra 7, and a Korg Triton and would love to be able to send program changes via saved patch’s on the nord to incorporate the sounds. Would I need a midi patch bay or would daisy chaining them together work? I’d be willing to pay for your research on this topic.
Please keep up the stellar work that you are doing here on RUclips your information is clear and concise and valuable.
Best... Daniel Colfer.
Thanks so much Daniel for your comment and request. I have a video that explains the MSB and LSB stuff via the Extern feature in the full paid course on my site and in the interest of keeping value in the course for the existing students, I'm going to keep it there. But it's the same concept on the Stage 3. When a program changes, you can have the Stage 3 send "on load" program changes through the Extern area and you'll find this in the system settings of your Stage 3. There you'll see the same MSB and LSB options just like you do in the video here. Good luck with this and thanks for watching! Full course link in the description above if interested.
My Keys To Music
Does your course provide step by step instructions on how to connect multiple modules, set midi channels, discuss wether a midi patch bay is needed and if so how to incorporate that device? Align with how to identify and apply MSB and LSB values along with program change midi CC so I can press a program on the Nord stage 3 and have it change the programs on all of my modules? If so, Id be glad to pay for your course. I would prefer a one time charge as opposed to a monthly commitment as most of the other content I am fairly familiar with. Again... thank you so much for your great work here on RUclips. I would love to have the knowledge to be able to present the information as you do with clever graphics and sound quality. Id be interested in a course that teaches that as well. I guess that would be RUclips production and presentation techniques.
Best...
@@danielcolfer4671 Hi Daniel. Sorry for the delay on this response here. The answer is yes and no. I have a lesson that explains how to use the Extern function to send program changes using MSB and LSB upon load. It doesn't talk about a MIDI patch bay or what is needed in a complex setup. It assumes the Nord Stage 3 to something like the Nord Electro 6 for example with a single MIDI cable between the two.
And your question about how I make my videos. I use a combination of Keynote and Screenflow for the Mac. The techniques I use are described very well here if you want to get started with that sort of thing: ruclips.net/video/_TBazwfahYw/видео.html
Thanks for your questions!
My Keys To Music
Thanks for your rapid reply. I’m sure you have quite a few comments and questions to respond to. I’m excited about digging into the technology surrounding hardware and soft synths and how they can be organized and controlled via computers, iPads and midi implementation. The sounds available for the iPad have become quite impressive and incorporating all of this technology (hardware like the nord keyboards, computer,s, software etc) has vast potential for music performance and creativity. The videos you present contribute greatly to this endeavor. Many thanks!
@@danielcolfer4671 Thanks Daniel!
Hi Marc, I'm getting a Nord Grand in August or September when they are available at my local music store. I'm wondering is there is a piece of software for Windows 10 similar to forScore. I know a MAC is more compatible to music software but I only have PCs. Thanks for your very interesting videos.
Hello, @Maurice Richard Thanks for your comment and question. I did a little research and came up with this solution called "Mobile Sheets" found here: www.zubersoft.com/mobilesheets/ There may be others but this is the first one that showed up. I haven't used it personally so you'll have to check it out and read about it more etc. Best of luck and enjoy your Nord Grand in the fall...
@@MyKeysToMusic Thank you I'll look for it and try it out.
@@maurrich61 Sounds good. Report back if you get the chance.
Dear Marc, thank you for this great video. I've been looking for this kind of a my solution quite a while, but now I've adopted exactly your setup. The only thing that strikes me as particularly cumbersome s da right now, is the way I'm supposed to enter over 200 program changes into Forscore... Do I really have to solve this totally confusing math problem every time in order to find exactly the right memory location and enter it into each associated sheet?
Hey Marc, hope you're doing well. Happy new year ;). I've got a question, but it is a little of topic. I bought Ableton Suite to use along my stage 3, but I keep of course using the stage a lot for piano's.
I make different patches now, 3-10 per song depending on the song, and put them in order in song mode. Works fantastic. Now, would it be possible to give these Nord programs a 'midi number' and let ableton time my predets? I time the ableton presets already and would like ableton to tell Nord the same ;)
Hello @Nathan Daniel. The answer is yes. You could have Ableton send a program change directly to the song mode area. The trick is that you have to set specific MSB and LSB numbers. This can be tricky at first and if you've never done it before. I have a lesson that talks about this for the program area (not in song mode) found in the Master the Nord Stage 3 course. If you were to sign up, I could make one specific to song mode and Ableton for you. I assume it's Ableton Live? If you want to tackle this directly, you can check out the Stage 3 manual in the MIDI area where it talks about MSB and LSB.
This is great!!! Can I backup the fourscore midi settings or export it .... or in other words: what is with all my midi settings, when my iPad is broken?
@huttererflorian Thank you for your comment and question. I recommend reading this excerpt directly from the manufacturer on how backups and settings are handled: forscore.co/kb/understanding-backups-syncing-and-icloud/ Thanks for watching!
@@MyKeysToMusic Thanks, you are great!!!
@@huttererflorian Thank you!
Hi Marc, what a great video! Have you tried to send the PC from the ipad to the Nord through the USB cable with camera connection kit? Does it work too?
Hi Fernando. I'm not 100% sure to be honest. I'm betting you have a better than 50% chance that it will work. If you test this and find out, do report back please.
Now it’s much easier to do it with the external midi plugin in Logic Pro for iPad , if you use that program 😊
@niellseen Niels, good point. In fact, a lot has changed just in the 3 years since I recorded this video. Things are moving fast in this area...
Hi,thanks for your videos.They help a lot all the time. Also partly because of them I bought Nord:) I have I rig midi 2 and can’t connect Nord with iPad. Which “midi control Change “ settings must be installed?
Hello Valeriy, I'm happy the videos have helped! So, which Nord model do you have exactly? You say you can't connect the iRig MIDI 2 to your Nord? Did you try loading the MIDI Wrench app on your iPad? Do you see the iRig MIDI 2 in your Bluetooth settings on your iPad? If yes, then you have to make sure your Nord is set to the correct MIDI channel and that's ready to accept "program changes" - you'll find this either in the "System" menu (for the Electro family) or under the "MIDI" settings for the Stage family.
My Keys To Music I have Nord electro 6d, and it’s connected to midi wrench.I rig receives “midi out” signal from virtual keyboard in iPad, but it can’t receive “Midi in”. To my mind there is a problem in this.
@@valeriylysenko576 Hmm, this is strange. Within the MIDI Wrench program on my end, I'm able to play notes on the iPad and hear them on the Nord and I'm also able to play the Nord and hear GarageBand sound on the iPad. Oh and here's a tip: GarageBand on the iPad, it will NOT send out MIDI to any instrument. Like the Desktop version of GarageBand, it doesn't appear to have the ability to send MIDI signals outbound to externally connected keyboards. So, GarageBand will only let you test MIDI coming in, not out. MIDI Wrench should let you "see" the data stream coming in when you play your Nord (the text screen on the right within the main screen of MIDI Wrench program).
Dear Marc, you are an angel.
I would like to ask you if it´s possible to change Song on the Nord instead of the Program? That would be handy since many of my Songs consists of 2 o 3 Programs.
Hey Karl! Great question here. So, if you want to have it change the song instead of the program, you can simply change the MSB number to 1 instead of 0 in the software. I briefly cover that in the video at approx 12:08 ruclips.net/video/D1sWPR-k7oE/видео.html
With the Nord Stage 3, you can change from four different areas like so:
MSB: 0 = Programs
MSB: 1 = Songs
MSB: 2 = Synth Presets
MSB: 6 = Live list
@@MyKeysToMusic For Programs it´s working for me, but not for Songs. When I set ForeScore to 1 1 0 12 for example, I got program 1:03 on my Nord. I hoped to get song 1:13. Do I have to do any further settings?
@@KalleCanto Hello! Not to worry here. Song mode on a Nord Stage 3 works in a slightly more advanced way. Because songs have parts (5 parts for each song to be exact), you have to calibrate your program numbers in groups of 5 instead of 1. Also, keep in mind that the program numbers are still zero-based in song mode so you have to compensate for that too. Finally, the MIDI numbers (LSB groupings) used by the Nord Song list are based on 0-124 (for a total of 125 locations). So, you'll have to think in MIDI groups of 125 every time you increment the LSB number. Note this differs from what is written in the manual (English version, Edition "L", page 52). The manual states that LSB grouping is 0-99 for song lists but I have found it to be similar to the program list which is grouped as 0-124. Here are some examples which will make this a bit more clear hopefully:
Song 1:01, Part 1 = LSB: 0, Program: 0
Song 1:01, Part 3 = LSB: 0, Program: 2
Song 1:02, Part 1 = LSB: 0, Program: 5
Song 1:02, Part 4 = LSB: 0, Program: 8
Song 1:13, Part 1 = LSB: 0, Program: 60
Song 1:13, Part 5 = LSB: 0, Program 64
Song 1:26, Part 1 = LSB: 1, Program 0
Song 1:27, Part 2 = LSB: 1, Program 6
Song 1:48, Part 3 = LSB: 1, Program 112
Song 2:01, Part 1 = LSB, 2, Program 0
Song 2:05, Part 1 = LSB: 2, Program 20
Song 3:17, Part 3 = LSB: 4, Program 82
Someone who has time could create a mathematical formula to calculate this perhaps! Since there are 8 banks of 50 songs each, that means there are 2,000 song parts that are selectable in this way!
@@MyKeysToMusic Ok, I understand, since you are so great at explain things. Yes it should be good to have an excel sheet to quickly see which settings correspond to songs one, two, three, four etc.
@@KalleCanto You can find a brand new chart called "Nord Stage 3 Song Mode (MIDI Program Change Chart)" available as an exclusive perk to my Patreon Patrons here: www.patreon.com/MyKeysToMusic. I had to create a database/script routine to auto calculate the increments to do the math for the 2,000 song part records. Without a chart, it's going to require a calculator and some head-scratching if anyone is new to this. Great suggestion today! 😄
Hi first of al: brilliant tutorial. I have one question. Is it possible to turn a page in the app with the third pedal on the nord triple pedal unit. I am looking to buy a page turner but if I can use it like this that wouldn't be necessary. Thanks in advance. (Sorry for my bad english)
Thank you Milan! Unfortunately, I don't think this is possible at all. The Nord Triple Pedal is a one-trick wonder designed to imitate pedal noise and all the things that these traditional piano pedals do for the Stage 3 piano engine. There is no way to reprogram these pedals or use one as an external MIDI page-turner trigger as you suggested. This is a NEAT idea however and you are really good to think outside the box on that one. This is the first time anyone asked a question like this but I really like the concept.
@@MyKeysToMusic I got the idea from the roland keyboards. I am looking around for a new keyboard and I read that it was possible with the roland fp 90. But on the roland the ports to plug the pedal in are seperated. So you can plug in 3 different pedals with 3 different jacks. And I think that is not possible on the nord. But thanks for your fast response.
@@milanmichielsen-stevens Oh I see now. That's a cool feature about the Roland FP-90 that I didn' realize - very cool.
Wow!! TOTAL game changer! THANK YOU!! Got the Yamaha MD-BT01 and MIDI Wrench app and was changing patches in the Nord within 5 minutes of connecting the iPad via Bluetooth. I also use the IK Blueboard foot pedal for page turns in ForScore via bluetooth - and everything there still works like a charm too. Could this day get any better?
Wondering...can you set BPM in ForScore for each song, in addition to patches, that will send that data to the Nord??
@@GraceE-Free I love stories like this. And thus, we witness first-hand the power of RUclips and the amazing era we live in. Sure, there's a LOT in the world which isn't going so great right now, but online learning is alive and healthy! Give yourself a pat on the back because you've done some pretty advanced MIDI stuff with all this. So, about your question. If forScore can send out MIDI clock data, the Nord can receive it so long as it's on the global channel on the Nord.
@@MyKeysToMusic I don't think forScore has an option to send out MIDI clock data. When I select MIDI in song info, the only SEND options are Program Change, Hex Codes, Song Select, Delay, and Learn... I'm not sure what LEARN does and I can't seem to find forScore documentation on the MIDI send features.
@@GraceE-Free So you're right. It doesn't look like there is any kind of MIDI clock capability which means that there is no way to control the BPM on the Nord from forScore. And I think "Learn" allows you to quickly assign a program by switching to it on the Nord while you are setting things up on forScore (saves you a step in figuring out the numbers). Incidently, another program (the competition to forScore) called _OnSong_ does provide MIDI clock out - so that's interesting.
@@MyKeysToMusic hey, but that's helpful about the "learn" option. That will be a big time saver, as the patch numbering system for the Nord is cumbersome to calculate and convert. Thank you yet again!
Hello, thanks a lot for this video, it is a great solution. When using 2 keyboards on stage, do I use 2 MD-BT01 to make the program change, on the keyboards at the same time? Or do I have to connect the 2 keyboards together trough midi.
Hi Jean-Paul! Great question. Let me play with this and I'll test a few things out for you.
Hello Jean-Paul. Great news! I just tested connecting two Nord Keyboards with MIDI over Bluetooth. One keyboard was connected to the MD-BT01 and the other was connected to the UD-BT01. I then used MIDI Wrench to connect the two on the iPad. Then in forScore, I simply added a second program change when the song opens. (I could also make 2 buttons - one button for Nord 1 and one button for Nord 2). When you do this, just make sure that you assign the keyboards to different MIDI channels. I think this method would be much easier (more reliable) than trying to daisy chain one Nord to the other. So use 2 Bluetooth devices and you should be good to go. Please report back if you take these steps and confirm after you test on your end too pls.
I am trying to figure out how to receive not send. Where I send MIDI notes or Program changes with a DAW (Ableton Live) to call up a song and even turn pages automatically along the click timeline. I have done this with Music Stand and On Song. But ForScore seems to be a little tougher to figure out how to get MIDI in... when I choose Receive Shortcuts MIDI won't even appear in the Metadata panel. I know this is more about the Nord application, but you seem to be the most reliable source I have found with the MIDI side of thing in ForScore.
Hello Geared for Worship! So, I have figured out one small part of this and it inspired a video where I featured you comment here: ruclips.net/video/88R3bNeO4iQ/видео.html. Haven't figured out how to turn the pages. My recommendation at this point is to upgrade to the Pro version of forScore and then work directly with their tech support people to ask the same questions. They should be able to point you in the right direction. If and when you find out how to do this, please share back here and perhaps I'll do a follow up video or at the very least, I can help others who ask down the road. Many thanks!
@@MyKeysToMusic Thanks I appreciate.
Happy to help!
I have verified that this does work with the apple USB-C to Digital AV adapter using a Nord Stage 2EX and an Ipad Pro 11. Global Channel 1, Midi Prog Change Mode Set to Send&Rec.
Thank you @Bellflower Landscaping for the help!
First of all: Great video! It’s really useful. Is it possible to control 2 keyboards simultaneously with 2 MD-BT01 connected to the same iPad? I need to change program at my NS3 and Wave at the same time and I used to have the Wave receive PC from the NS3, which isn’t possible with the MD-BT01, since it’s occupying both midi in + out.
Thanks Andreas! So yes, this should be very possible because forScore allows for MULTIPLE MIDI settings (program changes) when you load a new piece of music thereby allowing you to change to multiple keyboards at the same time (each on their own MIDI channel of course). Along with this, the MIDI Wrench software also allows simultaneous connections to multiple Bluetooth MIDI devices which is also necessary. Although I didn't test this personally, I'm feeling confident that this should work for you based on the two MIDI devices I have here from Yamaha and the fact that both can be connected via the iPad at the same time. Good luck and please report back if you pursue this to confirm it for all of us. Thanks!
@@MyKeysToMusic It works - and it's really simple to do the setup:
It requires 2 x MD-BT101 + the software "MIDI Wrench" and "forScore" mentioned in the video.
Simply type two different MIDI-commands for your normal program-change - I made it work by using the commands:
NS3: Ch 1, MSB 0, LSB 0, (program destination)
Nord Wave: Ch 2, MSB 0, LSB 0, (program destination)
Good luck, guys!
@@andbek95 Awesome that you got this to work and you are reporting back on it. Thanks for sharing this!
This is so cool!
Glad you like it Teera!
Can ForScore send a program signal, simultaneous to a keyboard and BeatBuddy ?
Hi Frank. In theory, you should be able to do this because ForScore allows you to send multiple program changes upon opening (or within a button, etc.) Of course, you'll need to set the keyboard and BeatBuddy to different MIDI channels. But yes, it should work no problem. Note that I didn't personally test this. Good luck! On a side note, I've been considering a beat buddy or something like it. I'll have to research it more to ensure it sends out clock signals.
Hey Marc, first off all good tutorial. Is it possible to power the MD-BT01 from only 1 connection? So does it work when I only want to recieve midi messages and I don't plug in the send midi connector? Maybe it is a weird question, but I'm also a guitar player and I use a multi effect peddal and this only has a midi out port and no midi in. So I wanted to know if I could use it with that too. Thanks in Advance.
@Milan Michielsen-Stevens Thanks for your question and sorry for the delay. Yes, I tested this just now and it works with JUST the MIDI out (from the Nord keyboard MIDI out only). In fact, the MIDI out port appears to be where the MD-BT101 gets the power from. Let's hope that your multi-effect pedal powers the MIDI out port too. So yes, I think you should have no problem with this. Incidentally, I tested it with only the MIDI In and that doesn't work because the power light didn't on the MD-BT101. So, the MIDI out is the minimum requirement so it would seem. Good luck and report back if you can.
@@MyKeysToMusic Thanks for the response. I will report back if it worked.
@@milanmichielsen-stevens Sounds good thanks!
So Marc, great video. Really informative. Just a question... if you go down the Yamaha route to implement wireless program changes, can you still wirelessly turn pages? If you use the wireless Bluetooth for the program changes I assume you then can’t turn pages. Thoughts and comments would be appreciated.
Hi James. I don't see why this wouldn't work. I assume that the signals to turn the pages are independent of the signals that send the program changes. The question is will the page turn mechanism force the "on load" mechanism as well? I'm leaning towards "no problem, this should work" but I don't have a definite way to prove it at the moment. If you come to find this out before we do, let us know how it goes please! Thanks for the great question.
Hey James H, Were you able to implement the wireless program changes AND turn pages?
good good video! he nord stage 3 can be used as a midi controller in logic pro x ?
Hi Claudio! Yes, no problem at all. I use my Nord Stage 3 all the time as a MIDI controller to Logic Pro X. In fact, I have a somewhat related video talking about recording the Nord Stage 3 into GarageBand as well. I use the Focusrite 18I8 interface which handles audio and MIDI of course: ruclips.net/video/UU6j5o3YfaA/видео.html
@@MyKeysToMusic can I assign play stop loop rec etc. In the nord stage???
@@claudiobenitez6665 This is potentially a loaded question. The short answer is no, not really. When it comes to sending MIDI from the Stage 3 out, there is an Extern section that provides accommodations to send MIDI CC (control changes) out but it's not really designed to be a true controller in the traditional sense with a built-in stop and play button like you see on most MIDI controller keyboards these days. I hope I'm understanding your question correctly.
@@MyKeysToMusic ok thanks