I think the black spotting in the backs of the leaves could be from higher light, mine tend to do this but less so when I pull them back from the light.
I had a polyneura with almost identical black dots but they were on the stem also as well as the backs of leaves. I thought it was some type of fungus and it did seem to resolve itself after a couple of treatments from a fungicide. But nothing I could find on the internet really answered my questions about it.
Oh Adam!! You should make this a series! Bring on different RUclipsrs or followers that ask their curious questions. Even if it is a bit repetitive the various personalities in the end just discussing would be so fun! I’m voting for an Ask Adam series!
No one should feel shame in the time that they started their plant journey and no one should make anyone feel less than if they aren't a 10 years old vet. Plant love should be just that plant and love.
Hello, greetings from a hoya collector in Sweden. A tip regarding false spider mites and using sulfur agents. As far as I know, you should treat 4 times 1 week apart to be sure to have treated their entire life cycle. You should not rinse off the agent in the meantime, but leave it on the leaves. In this way, the mites get the sulfur when they crawl around. Otherwise, the risk is high that the infection starts again when new eggs hatch. Good luck!
FLAT MITE ADVICE, Y'ALL! You guys talked about flat mites, the teeny tiny microscopic red mites. These mites are very hard to get rid of and they build up a tolerance to pest products (from what I have read and heard from many people). This year I bought a hoya (supposed to be very fast growing) and it did nothing for a couple months, which I thought was weird. I suspected it might be mites, so I checked with a jewelers loupe and lo-and-behold there were little red mites on each leaf (where the leaf meets the stem - that is where they like to hang out). I did a LOT of research on how to kill them and I inevitable decided to try wiping the plant down with alcohol and dipping it in alcohol etc (I spent an hour carefully doing this). The mites were literally back the next day, so it obviously didn't work. I read in a hoya FB group that sulfur works well for these mites, so I decided to try it out myself. I got outdoor plant sulfur treatment, mixed it with water in a spray bottle, sprayed the entire plant down (including the top of the soil) and let is sit for a couple hours, then rinsed it off. It's now been flat mite free for months and I regularly check it and do not see anything - it only took ONE treatment, guys!! I really highly recommend trying the sulfur treatment! It was a life saver. I was so distraught when I found flat mites on my plant, because people say they're impossible to get rid of, but they're not!
I am so glad that you discussed all of this because there is NO BOOKS on Hoyas. I couldn't believe no one has wrote a book on them.... the different species.... etc
Love this!!! I actually found both of you at different times! What a joy to watch you guys talk about a broad spectrum of questions! I definitely would love more like this!
Hi! Late to the party, but just watched your video. I love the great Hoya information you share! I wanted to say that the villosa shown around the 29 minute mark that is dropping new growth has a lot of brown “scabby” scarring on the tops of two leaves. I’ve found that this almost always points to a long-standing mite issue. When my Hoyas were attacked last year, I had some minor scarring, but what I had a lot of were all these gnubs of “aborted growth points” where the plant would try to start a new stem, but the flat mites would attack it, and it would die off. And then the plant would produce a new growth point in the exact same place, only to have the mites kill it again (over and over). I live in the US, so I used a commercial miticide that targets both eggs and adults, but most people use repeated sprayings of sulfur diluted in water. The difficult thing about the mites is that even with a handheld electronic microscope, the mites only appear as tiny dots under the strongest magnification. I’ve found it easiest to detect them on the stems right at the base of leaves. Thanks again for the great videos (your one on flat mites was really great) and I hope I was able to contribute something to the conversation 😊
Interesting discussion. I tried the orchid mist, however, I found that the leaves then had a dried film on them, and you are supposed to keep the leaves clean to help photosynthesis, so I wonder if the orchid mist is good or bad? 🤔
What I use on bugs in general is clove oil with water in a small hand held sprayer. It numbs them to death, I've used on ants, spiders, roaches, wasps. Haven't needed to use on Indoor houseplants yet but will if needed. Thanks for a great video! Very helpful!
I love this video! I think splash depends on the Hoya but I notice better splash with high humidity and temp drops at night when new leaves forming…more light does not seem to help my conditions. I have noticed more peduncles more activated peduncles and more blooms with foliar feeding. I use regular old miracle grow bloom booster per package directions in my mister bottle at least once a week during growth season. I think these comments will be a great resource for all of us!
A lot of times the black dots can sometimes show up as black veins and are a nutrient deficiency. If the Hoya has a good root system I would fertilize it with a balanced fertilizer and let it soak up that fertilized water.
Great video, Adam! I l had to laugh when you talked about how bougie you were for ordering purified water for your plants. Santa brought me an RO system for my house last Christmas and I was freakin’ ecstatic! That’s got to be a new level of plant nerdiness…🤓
Adam, I wanna thank you for warning us with those flat mites. I came back from my holiday and I found out my Maranta has some pest, probably thrips. The damage on the leaves was similar to thrips, actually. Magnifying glass in hand I saw red mites on the stems. I said, oh, no spider mites! 😠But no spider web on the plant. Anyway, I sprayed with my regular pesticide and isolated the plant. One week later, the plant was covered with those evils again! Then I remember your stories on Instagram about those mites. I bought a microscope and I found them in a Hoya which it's like 5 metres away from the Maranta. 🤔 I around 100 Hoyas so I'm still checking 🧐 I'll look for that sulphur fungicide asap You're the best 💚💚💚
I also started collecting plants during the pandemic! I've watched hundreds of RUclips videos and have learned so much through it! Before I killed my first hoya but because of the plant community on RUclips my newest hoya is thriving! Any tips on how to promote blooms is appreciated!
I have a hoya that keep dropping new growth!!! It’s driving me crazy and I can’t figure out the problem. I am tempted to take it out of soil and put it in pon
Crap, I just found tiny red mites on the Hoyas I’ve looked under the microscope with, thanks for the info. Question-how often did u spray the fungicide? Also have u found the mites on any other type of plant, like philodendron?
You can always chop off the new growth and hope the next vine that grows will have more splash. My friend Lydia did that with a splashy cutting I gave her. She chopped it 5 times before she got a splashy vine!
Sorry, I already replied to this comment but RUclips must have hidden it because it contained a link 🤪 The jewelry is by a small business owner called Mica Peet, I won't include a link this time around but you should be able to find her if you just google her. She's got a wide range of beautiful planty jewelry (90% of which I own 🤣) and I think she even ships worldwide, hope that helps! 💕
i just started treating all of my hoyas that haven't grown for a while, and guess what mimi, some are pushing out new growths! check your hoyas for mites yall
Interesting that sulfur powder is used to keep chiggers off of people by dusting the shoes. Chiggers are unseen red bugs that get under your skin and itch like crazy! It's a Midwest thing! Lol Makes total sense to me hearing this!
Oh I am well aware of Chiggers. I've had many attacks. Grew up in NE and spent 10 years in IL. They are THE WORST! However I did not know sulfur was used against them! Thanks for that info!!
@@KnotDude an elderly garden friend used it. I might be worried about putting it directly on the skin but many around here at least in KS we're dusting lower pants and shoes. My husband is from Ireland and we always joke that you can roll in the grass there with no torture afterwards! Lol No mosquitos, snakes or chiggers! Heaven! Love your channel! Thank you for all the Hoya info!
Brilliant video with Josie 😁 super useful insights too. In Josie’s video you mentioned we shouldn’t be using the term ‘variegata’ anymore and I saw Miro mention this in one of his videos too. May I ask why? 🤔
I linked an article in the description about Hoya nomenclature. People will still use it and that's ok but I'm trying to use best practice by stating "inner variegated" or "outer variegated".
I have not had hoya mites but live in fear so I bought a microscope(cheap usb kind). I have heard of a really effective and fairly simple technique to get rid of them. Basically you soak the whole plant in very warm water for 10-15 minutes. Have you tried this?
I did. I used my sous vide to soak them in 120 degree water for 15 minutes on 4 of my really long vined hoyas. For the most part they are all good now. I do not think I would go 120 anymore. lots of new growth died/burned and all peduncles fell off but the plant is still happy.
@@joannanovara815 I think for some it would work but I would say try at your own risk and maybe with a Hoya you are less attached too. The temp needs to be very closely monitored.
Very informative! That was great information, but I couldn't watch anymore of it... the sucking air through her teeth was like nails on a chalkboard. 😖
If anyone has any other advice on some of the questions asked, please let us know!
I think the black spotting in the backs of the leaves could be from higher light, mine tend to do this but less so when I pull them back from the light.
I had a polyneura with almost identical black dots but they were on the stem also as well as the backs of leaves. I thought it was some type of fungus and it did seem to resolve itself after a couple of treatments from a fungicide. But nothing I could find on the internet really answered my questions about it.
Oh! I paused and commented before you mentioned polyneura, how interesting!
the black spots can also be a sign of thrips
Oh Adam!! You should make this a series! Bring on different RUclipsrs or followers that ask their curious questions. Even if it is a bit repetitive the various personalities in the end just discussing would be so fun! I’m voting for an Ask Adam series!
That would be so fun!!
No one should feel shame in the time that they started their plant journey and no one should make anyone feel less than if they aren't a 10 years old vet. Plant love should be just that plant and love.
Hello, greetings from a hoya collector in Sweden. A tip regarding false spider mites and using sulfur agents. As far as I know, you should treat 4 times 1 week apart to be sure to have treated their entire life cycle. You should not rinse off the agent in the meantime, but leave it on the leaves. In this way, the mites get the sulfur when they crawl around. Otherwise, the risk is high that the infection starts again when new eggs hatch. Good luck!
Another pro is that all my hoya look splashy! hahaha. Thank you so much for the information!
FLAT MITE ADVICE, Y'ALL! You guys talked about flat mites, the teeny tiny microscopic red mites. These mites are very hard to get rid of and they build up a tolerance to pest products (from what I have read and heard from many people). This year I bought a hoya (supposed to be very fast growing) and it did nothing for a couple months, which I thought was weird. I suspected it might be mites, so I checked with a jewelers loupe and lo-and-behold there were little red mites on each leaf (where the leaf meets the stem - that is where they like to hang out). I did a LOT of research on how to kill them and I inevitable decided to try wiping the plant down with alcohol and dipping it in alcohol etc (I spent an hour carefully doing this). The mites were literally back the next day, so it obviously didn't work. I read in a hoya FB group that sulfur works well for these mites, so I decided to try it out myself. I got outdoor plant sulfur treatment, mixed it with water in a spray bottle, sprayed the entire plant down (including the top of the soil) and let is sit for a couple hours, then rinsed it off. It's now been flat mite free for months and I regularly check it and do not see anything - it only took ONE treatment, guys!! I really highly recommend trying the sulfur treatment! It was a life saver. I was so distraught when I found flat mites on my plant, because people say they're impossible to get rid of, but they're not!
Sulphur fungicide is what I have used also and worked like a charm.
@@KnotDude While on the topic of sulfur fungicide - do you know if it works on spider mites and mealy bugs by any chance?
@@torikane8967 I believe yes definitely for spider mites, unsure of mealies.
@@KnotDude It works on mites, thrips, and scale. Mealy's weren't mentioned on the bottle.
Omg Adam. Beautiful job editing. This was so easy to watch! I can sure appreciate some great editing
Oh thank you so much! I do love the editing part of making these. Probably more than filming lol
@@KnotDude yes we can see how much love and effort you put in ❤️☺️
I am so glad that you discussed all of this because there is NO BOOKS on Hoyas. I couldn't believe no one has wrote a book on them.... the different species.... etc
Favorite statement in this video:"We are all just trying to figure our shit out". Word.
word
Love this!!! I actually found both of you at different times! What a joy to watch you guys talk about a broad spectrum of questions! I definitely would love more like this!
Hi! Late to the party, but just watched your video. I love the great Hoya information you share! I wanted to say that the villosa shown around the 29 minute mark that is dropping new growth has a lot of brown “scabby” scarring on the tops of two leaves. I’ve found that this almost always points to a long-standing mite issue. When my Hoyas were attacked last year, I had some minor scarring, but what I had a lot of were all these gnubs of “aborted growth points” where the plant would try to start a new stem, but the flat mites would attack it, and it would die off. And then the plant would produce a new growth point in the exact same place, only to have the mites kill it again (over and over). I live in the US, so I used a commercial miticide that targets both eggs and adults, but most people use repeated sprayings of sulfur diluted in water.
The difficult thing about the mites is that even with a handheld electronic microscope, the mites only appear as tiny dots under the strongest magnification. I’ve found it easiest to detect them on the stems right at the base of leaves.
Thanks again for the great videos (your one on flat mites was really great) and I hope I was able to contribute something to the conversation 😊
Interesting discussion. I tried the orchid mist, however, I found that the leaves then had a dried film on them, and you are supposed to keep the leaves clean to help photosynthesis, so I wonder if the orchid mist is good or bad? 🤔
What I use on bugs in general is clove oil with water in a small hand held sprayer. It numbs them to death, I've used on ants, spiders, roaches, wasps. Haven't needed to use on Indoor houseplants yet but will if needed. Thanks for a great video! Very helpful!
I love this video! I think splash depends on the Hoya but I notice better splash with high humidity and temp drops at night when new leaves forming…more light does not seem to help my conditions. I have noticed more peduncles more activated peduncles and more blooms with foliar feeding. I use regular old miracle grow bloom booster per package directions in my mister bottle at least once a week during growth season. I think these comments will be a great resource for all of us!
It was helpful to hear your encouraging words about cutting hoya. I won't be so hesitant to cut in the future!
What a fun and information packed video! That shirt looks amazing too!
I need more of these videos! Loved it!
This was such a great video! Super informative and fun to watch! Thanks for this!!!
Thank YOU for watching!
A lot of times the black dots can sometimes show up as black veins and are a nutrient deficiency. If the Hoya has a good root system I would fertilize it with a balanced fertilizer and let it soak up that fertilized water.
Thank you Jacob! Appreciate the info 🥰
So enjoyed this video. Two beautiful humans talking about plants!
Thanks for watching!!
Great video, Adam! I l had to laugh when you talked about how bougie you were for ordering purified water for your plants. Santa brought me an RO system for my house last Christmas and I was freakin’ ecstatic! That’s got to be a new level of plant nerdiness…🤓
Adam, I wanna thank you for warning us with those flat mites. I came back from my holiday and I found out my Maranta has some pest, probably thrips. The damage on the leaves was similar to thrips, actually. Magnifying glass in hand I saw red mites on the stems. I said, oh, no spider mites! 😠But no spider web on the plant. Anyway, I sprayed with my regular pesticide and isolated the plant. One week later, the plant was covered with those evils again! Then I remember your stories on Instagram about those mites. I bought a microscope and I found them in a Hoya which it's like 5 metres away from the Maranta. 🤔 I around 100 Hoyas so I'm still checking 🧐
I'll look for that sulphur fungicide asap
You're the best 💚💚💚
ugh they are literally the worst. sending good vibes to your mental health and your plants!
I also started collecting plants during the pandemic! I've watched hundreds of RUclips videos and have learned so much through it! Before I killed my first hoya but because of the plant community on RUclips my newest hoya is thriving! Any tips on how to promote blooms is appreciated!
Bright light and fertilize often!
I was totally thinking Sir Mix-a-lot too! Must be my age because Sir Mix-a-lot was very popular when I was younger.
I like big…..
plants and I cannot lie.
@@Nikibaby74 LOL!
I have a hoya that keep dropping new growth!!! It’s driving me crazy and I can’t figure out the problem. I am tempted to take it out of soil and put it in pon
I also have some hoya with those black spots on the back...thought it was more of a mildew thing....but plant seems just fine
Basie plants has a great video on plant names.
Hi from New Zealand.Love your videos Adam,glad you are posting more often 🥰
Thanks for watching!!
Crap, I just found tiny red mites on the Hoyas I’ve looked under the microscope with, thanks for the info. Question-how often did u spray the fungicide? Also have u found the mites on any other type of plant, like philodendron?
There is another comment on this video explaining how to treat with the sulphur fungicide! Very informative!
My question is!
When you buy a cutting of Hoya something splash and is very splashy but grows less splash! How can I get the splash back
You can always chop off the new growth and hope the next vine that grows will have more splash. My friend Lydia did that with a splashy cutting I gave her. She chopped it 5 times before she got a splashy vine!
I think you guys just gave me my final user handle. 😊 you guys are so fun to watch 😊
That is a beautiful pendant! Where did you get that?
Sorry, I already replied to this comment but RUclips must have hidden it because it contained a link 🤪 The jewelry is by a small business owner called Mica Peet, I won't include a link this time around but you should be able to find her if you just google her. She's got a wide range of beautiful planty jewelry (90% of which I own 🤣) and I think she even ships worldwide, hope that helps! 💕
My mind went right to Sir mix a lot too 😂
Would you share what US company you use for beneficial insects? And what type of beneficial mite?
My Hoya Lacunosa is super viney! I have trouble keeping them all trellised!
i just started treating all of my hoyas that haven't grown for a while, and guess what mimi, some are pushing out new growths! check your hoyas for mites yall
YES! im glad you are seeing new growth. That shows me they were probably there sucking the life out of your hoyas :(
Interesting that sulfur powder is used to keep chiggers off of people by dusting the shoes. Chiggers are unseen red bugs that get under your skin and itch like crazy! It's a Midwest thing! Lol Makes total sense to me hearing this!
Oh I am well aware of Chiggers. I've had many attacks. Grew up in NE and spent 10 years in IL. They are THE WORST! However I did not know sulfur was used against them! Thanks for that info!!
@@KnotDude an elderly garden friend used it. I might be worried about putting it directly on the skin but many around here at least in KS we're dusting lower pants and shoes. My husband is from Ireland and we always joke that you can roll in the grass there with no torture afterwards! Lol No mosquitos, snakes or chiggers! Heaven! Love your channel! Thank you for all the Hoya info!
I instantly thought of Sir Mix Alot. But I'm old school 😂
same lol
@@KnotDude 😭💀
I noticed my plants bloom best when root bound.
Great video! The black spots may be caused by Oedema 🤷🏼♀️
Brilliant video with Josie 😁 super useful insights too. In Josie’s video you mentioned we shouldn’t be using the term ‘variegata’ anymore and I saw Miro mention this in one of his videos too. May I ask why? 🤔
I linked an article in the description about Hoya nomenclature. People will still use it and that's ok but I'm trying to use best practice by stating "inner variegated" or "outer variegated".
@@KnotDude thanks Adam, I’ll take a look!
@@nehab4148 I tried to reply on Josie's video but it wont post. I promise I was not ignoring you!
@@KnotDude haha no worries man!
I have not had hoya mites but live in fear so I bought a microscope(cheap usb kind). I have heard of a really effective and fairly simple technique to get rid of them. Basically you soak the whole plant in very warm water for 10-15 minutes. Have you tried this?
I did. I used my sous vide to soak them in 120 degree water for 15 minutes on 4 of my really long vined hoyas. For the most part they are all good now. I do not think I would go 120 anymore. lots of new growth died/burned and all peduncles fell off but the plant is still happy.
@@KnotDude would you still recommend this as a non chemical option(at a slight lower temp)?
@@joannanovara815 I think for some it would work but I would say try at your own risk and maybe with a Hoya you are less attached too. The temp needs to be very closely monitored.
Black dots can also be fungus.
What was on the leaves of the one plant she was showing with bare nodes?
I was thinking that too. Also, the Alocasia leaf behind her has something on its leaf. I wonder what that is.
it's beneficial bugs for thrips I believe. She has them on most of her plants
like, the bugs come in the "flakes" the flakes aren't the bugs just to be clear lol
@@crochetqueen6440 Oh I see. Thank you for clarifying 🤍
The commenters are correct! It is beneficial bugs, they come in that wood chip type material and you sprinkle them around!
Very informative! That was great information, but I couldn't watch anymore of it... the sucking air through her teeth was like nails on a chalkboard. 😖
Hello gorgeous