This Character Can Beat Goku Easily

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  • @wicked.a950
    @wicked.a950 Год назад +1071

    Kumagawa is more than just his powers, his mindset itself is so warped that he can put people into despair just with his words or presence

  • @ozyisgoated
    @ozyisgoated Год назад +371

    Removing devils from Chainsaw Man would make them lose a fight against Kumagawa (obviously). But it would also make like 99% happy, considering they just wanna live in peace.

    • @etherios5673
      @etherios5673 Год назад +15

      Except Kumagawa can never win a fight, that's a part of his character 😂😂😂

    • @cryptic_insanity
      @cryptic_insanity Год назад +22

      @@etherios5673 exactly, he lost the fight because everyone now has a better life free of devils

    • @raitoiro
      @raitoiro Год назад

      I'm not sure they would be happy. If a Devil being permanently removed by All Fiction has the same consequences as when CSM does it, then a lot of things are gonna disappear.
      Including some very useful stuff like muscle or the future.

    • @YaroosanChetty
      @YaroosanChetty 5 месяцев назад

      That's way wrong as kumagawa can't beat the overall natural or physical strength of the characters as there still assassin's, spy's and the fact normal human can survive so attacks from monsters attack,so your,the dumbest thing is saying they only have devils abilities

    • @walterwhite5764
      @walterwhite5764 4 месяца назад

      Goku one taps this fodder

  • @RhyaKahnum
    @RhyaKahnum Год назад +682

    The thing about Giorno is that GER is so conceptually simple and that's half of what makes it so busted. It's basically the most powerful defensive move ever conceptually to the point where anything that beats it literally has to state outright that it supersedes or ignores it. It doesn't mean it can necessarily beat anyone, since it doesn't necessarily imply destructive power, but with Giorno's intelligence it pretty much means that anyone who isn't able to instantly blink him out of existence is fucked.

    • @alliewhite8100
      @alliewhite8100 Год назад +40

      True but toru and wonder of u has the power that if any of these characters stepped on a pebble it can paralyze them or kill them
      And soft and wet is insta killl and tw oh rewrite them out of history

    • @acesgaming9467
      @acesgaming9467 Год назад +1

      Please who's tw

    • @JustARandomDudeHere
      @JustARandomDudeHere Год назад +27

      @@acesgaming9467 Tw stands for the world, twoh stands for the world over heaven

    • @thewifelessguythatissilent
      @thewifelessguythatissilent Год назад +17

      and also dont forget about hamon , spin , vampirism , GUNS , and other shit like the charactesrs are also very strong

    • @amvso2.0backup82
      @amvso2.0backup82 Год назад

      @@JustARandomDudeHere is the world over heaven canon ?

  • @collindavis1876
    @collindavis1876 5 месяцев назад +42

    “Dawg you don’t even exist to me”
    “What do you mean I don’t exi-“
    Literally disintegrated

    • @I_Kni
      @I_Kni 4 месяца назад +1

      his hax wont work because in dbz, to counter someones power you simple have to be stronger, he just has hax which contributes to his power, without his hax he aiant nothing

    • @andotv9320
      @andotv9320 3 месяца назад +1

      @@I_Kni first of all its simply* not simple second of all its aint not aiant third of all learn power scaling kid

    • @I_Kni
      @I_Kni 3 месяца назад

      @@andotv9320 goku could go 8.6 quadrillion times the speed of light when he was travelling in hell in his base form buddy idk why they are making anime goku trash they just be hiding stuff and not showing it again and it was in his base form. so he could go 50x that speed. so hes dead and sit down buddy

    • @gazzmania150
      @gazzmania150 2 месяца назад

      @@I_Kni people with hax just outscale him anyway.
      In his own verse theirs people he can't use his power on and can stop him using it on himself

    • @polarity_editz
      @polarity_editz Месяц назад

      @@I_Knidosent make him invisible idiot

  • @leonardosantana937
    @leonardosantana937 8 месяцев назад +8

    The tv remote solos just gotta shut off the tv 💀

    • @JackAndTom610
      @JackAndTom610 4 месяца назад

      Bro hes fiction
      Stop being a hater cuz he strong😂

  • @erno404
    @erno404 Год назад +270

    The thing about kumagawa i find so great, is how twisted his sense of reality is. All-Fiction itself wasn't even what it is now when he first got it, his mind is so warped it transformed to be even more terrifying and that's actually so cool to me.

    • @KONG-z4v
      @KONG-z4v 5 месяцев назад +1

      One punch man can easily beat him. All he needs to do is use his speed to kill him he won’t have enough time to use his ability but is my opinion in this video is your opinion too I think

    • @Airmaster545
      @Airmaster545 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@KONG-z4v he literally only needs to think ik it's subjective but he could just think that opm never existed also death don't exist to him so it doesn't really matter. even if saitama speed blitzed him he could make it so every nail was stabbing out of him since he doesn't feel pain and saitama will touch it and turn into normal

    • @ionisator1
      @ionisator1 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@KONG-z4v I'd imagine he probably has the concept of his own death or harm constantly turned off, so no. Then he turns Saitama into nothing.

    • @alathreon8315
      @alathreon8315 3 месяца назад +5

      @@KONG-z4v except that All Fiction automatically activate on Kumagawa death to erase his death, basically making him immortal.

    • @SCP-CBT
      @SCP-CBT 3 месяца назад +1

      @@KONG-z4v kumugawa CANT die, at all, All Fiction Auto deletes the fact he died, as soon as he dies

  • @MrAlmaerith
    @MrAlmaerith Год назад +296

    Hell yeah, my favorite Manga of all times! I've been telling that story for years, but people don't believe me or think the series is bad when I tell them how powerful Kumagawa is. For the game itself, you forgot one important rule: The Universe hates Kumagawa, so he can never win. At best, he can get a draw or hand his opponent a Pyrrhic victory. The times he "wins" in the manga, it's because his stated objective is not what the main cast wish to happen. Real Score should be 0-14 for him.
    2:40: actually, the power is sentient and brings him back to life by itself, I forgot which chapter, but Kumagawa mentions that he tried to let himself die and the power still activates.

    • @overseerpjoe9477
      @overseerpjoe9477 Год назад +26

      100% agree. Kumagawa cannot let himself win, since that would ruin his image of being the lowest, the most Minus amongst Minuses. And if we don't include the popularity polls (which he won ever single one after his introduction by landslides) then he ever won once in the entire series, and that was when he bet Medaka would be back from stopping the moon before graduation. And she showed back up about ten seconds after the graduation ended.

    • @IamJFD
      @IamJFD Год назад +8

      i wish they continued with the anime. Kumagawa deserve more screen time like 1 to 2 seasons worth

    • @ERESHKIGALNIGHTCORE
      @ERESHKIGALNIGHTCORE Год назад +1

      exactly,i have been telling many people too,but they dont agree

    • @overseerpjoe9477
      @overseerpjoe9477 Год назад +9

      @@ERESHKIGALNIGHTCORE the anime literally ended right before the manga became amazing. The Minus Arc felt like it's when the series finally found its footing.

    • @ERESHKIGALNIGHTCORE
      @ERESHKIGALNIGHTCORE Год назад

      @@overseerpjoe9477 yeah that is true,but i think thought that they would get more views as a manga rather than as a anime.and it is true,more have read the manga than anime

  • @Niki_v6778
    @Niki_v6778 Год назад +172

    I adore Kumagawa, for all his strength in manga, he constantly loses. (There are conventions here, for example, he easily copes with battles that do not matter to him, but loses where he wants to achieve something) This is due to the fact that he is the embodiment of a loser.Nothing will ever be good for him. But nevertheless, there is one thought in the manga: "Even a loser can win." This is confirmed at the end of the manga, where he "wins" (although before that he still achieved his goal in the battle with the "minus"). Kumagawa passed his arc and grew up as a character, learned how to win. As a reinforcement, he gets the ability to cancel his ability, this is a symbol that he is ready to face problems again that he previously avoided by erasing them. From a "good loser" he turned into a character capable of coping with any failure, so conceptually Kumagawa became the strongest character (At least this is my vision of the character)

    • @mistake1197
      @mistake1197 Год назад

      what chapter is it confirmed that he won? I only saw that his fight happened off screen.

    • @tomasdqwx2781
      @tomasdqwx2781 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@mistake1197 That guy read some fan fiction i think. He lost anyways when he tried his best. Medaka copied his skill and even upgraded it. Kumagawa was always right.

    • @sachadossantos7972
      @sachadossantos7972 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@tomasdqwx2781 SPOILER OF THE END
      Kumagawa effectively never won a fight but at the end he bet that Medaka will came back and she did hence he won because he won his bet something that he never did before

    • @tomasdqwx2781
      @tomasdqwx2781 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@sachadossantos7972 That because medaka is born winner. He would always win by betting on her. Problem is that he can t win directly.

    • @sachadossantos7972
      @sachadossantos7972 9 месяцев назад

      @@tomasdqwx2781 Medaka did looses several time so while being a "born winner" it's not 100% true unlike Kumagawa looses and no the problem is that he can't win at all but him acknowledging that find way to get what he want without having to win.

  • @ITACHIOG9
    @ITACHIOG9 Год назад +90

    You can limit him to just 1 move.
    He basically have to say "No one exists except him" the fight is over. 😮‍💨

    • @danger_1189
      @danger_1189 5 месяцев назад +4

      he can erase anything but everyone except him doesnt really work as it isnt one single concept its a bunch of diff concepts (he could erase humans but that erases him as well)

    • @nahmanwth5056
      @nahmanwth5056 5 месяцев назад +1

      G.E.R. nuh uh button :

    • @snoozerrr_
      @snoozerrr_ 4 месяца назад +1

      @@nahmanwth5056 GER can't press the nuh uh button if it never existed in the first place

    • @samariskyers
      @samariskyers 4 месяца назад

      ​@@snoozerrr_thats the thing, he can create a false name having time to activate it

    • @haku8866
      @haku8866 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@danger_1189
      1st use:I don't count as a living thing
      2nd use: erase all living things

  • @Javetts
    @Javetts 9 месяцев назад +3

    The fact there are characters that still no diff him...
    There is no ceiling in fiction.

  • @d3vout719
    @d3vout719 Год назад +51

    Main character from
    The power of instant death
    Bro is beyond unfair

    • @LargeMetalCube
      @LargeMetalCube Год назад +4

      finally found the right comment

    • @yamiru3417
      @yamiru3417 Год назад +1

      well rimuru would still be the most op atleast in the end

    • @LargeMetalCube
      @LargeMetalCube Год назад +1

      but can he survive being killed?

    • @randomthings8732
      @randomthings8732 Год назад +4

      He and the guy would probably draw or kinda are the same thing. Since they're similar but it's still two different universes we can't really say how it would go..

    • @randomthings8732
      @randomthings8732 Год назад +3

      ​@@LargeMetalCube yes. Yes and yes. From what I've read, dude is basically (spoiler below)
      The end incarnate, like the **end** incarnate.

  • @GentleDude63
    @GentleDude63 Год назад +145

    If Aizen just makes him think he's alive after he's killed him, can't Aizen seemingly kill Kumagawa without him knowing?

    • @theonewayroad3867
      @theonewayroad3867 Год назад +88

      Yea, except All Fiction activates automatically upon death independent of his thoughts so Aizen fucking with his head like that wouldn't mean much if anything at all.

    • @brick-2000
      @brick-2000 Год назад +26

      also he could just say "oh spirtual energy doesnt exist" and boom aizen cant beat him

    • @NicoNicoKneeCaps69
      @NicoNicoKneeCaps69 Год назад +9

      Kumagawa can just say "you don't have a shikai release or bankai release"

    • @MadoMacid
      @MadoMacid Год назад +4

      aizen can negate hax if the opponents are way weaker than him so all fiction shouldnt even work on him if kumagawa is way weaker

    • @brick-2000
      @brick-2000 Год назад +29

      @@MadoMacid oh but dear sir (or ma'am) there is one stark difference kumagawa is self aware and has read and watched all manga and anime sooo if he wanted he could just say that the bleach manga never existed and poof aizen is gone, no amount defense he has would save him. There are also kumagawa's screws that could just make him a normal human if he gets touched by them soooo yeah.

  • @Hank_the_Hankester
    @Hank_the_Hankester Год назад +66

    Dude, you should make this a section where you talk about incredibly strong characters! You could make a video about Accelerator, too!

    • @arandomweeb1
      @arandomweeb1  Год назад +15

      That... Is actually a really great idea! Thanks for that, I'll definitely work on that!

    • @RiseStreamer
      @RiseStreamer Год назад +1

      Ay, my man Accelerator gonna get a talk?

    • @King_Tempest
      @King_Tempest Год назад

      Bro I was just about to say Accelerator -_-

  • @kkhlufris
    @kkhlufris Год назад +28

    Finally people are giving him the love he deserves

    • @pingspoofer832
      @pingspoofer832 Год назад +3

      He's been getting attention from tiktok powerscalers who know nothing about his manga and only know he can erase stuff, but I've seen him get love he deserves in some places yeah

    • @kkhlufris
      @kkhlufris Год назад +5

      @@pingspoofer832 OK cool, and if u really know him
      You'd know he never win any fight, it ends in a draw at best.
      He is the greatest loser
      He can erase the concept of saiyan, marital arts buts that's about it.
      You can't take away strength n ki, n if he can screw Goku that will make Goku the same as him.

    • @walterwhite5764
      @walterwhite5764 4 месяца назад

      Goku one shots this fodder nobody 😂

  • @bluegamer4781
    @bluegamer4781 Год назад +9

    One problem is that you could just erase all supernatural phenomenon in one use

  • @docgoid
    @docgoid Год назад +63

    I was hoping you would put him up against the Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo universe, because I’m curious as to if Hajike could maybe find a way to beat him or something like that.

    • @MKTyphon
      @MKTyphon Год назад +18

      Bobobobo would win, because all fiction would not work since bobobobo can outdo reality warper. You get thanos with the infinity stone, and all he say, it candy and eat them, and thanos is powerless, or popeye and he will rig the fight and turn his spinach into cabbage.
      With this fight, he will rig it too make him win or that he is immune since reality has no meaning on bobobbobbo

    • @thiagotoloza2028
      @thiagotoloza2028 4 месяца назад

      Kumagawa simplemente tiene que borrar la realidad y ya.​@@MKTyphon

  • @trevordoherty6560
    @trevordoherty6560 Год назад +78

    Hasn’t he also read all manga and pieces of fiction in the multiverse or is that just ajimu?

    • @darkhound34
      @darkhound34 Год назад +12

      He reads manga as well

    • @pingspoofer832
      @pingspoofer832 Год назад +5

      He's a huge dragon ball fan so I really doubt he'd actively try to fuck up any of the DBZ cast

    • @alexispacheco9647
      @alexispacheco9647 9 месяцев назад

      @@pingspoofer832yes I agred

  • @blitz_cuby5450
    @blitz_cuby5450 Год назад +117

    Kumagawa vs demon slayer = remove breathing

    • @sinfuladam
      @sinfuladam Год назад +7

      So basically, he gets rid of breathing, right?

    • @blitz_cuby5450
      @blitz_cuby5450 Год назад +12

      @@sinfuladam they just insta die

    • @sinfuladam
      @sinfuladam Год назад +1

      @@blitz_cuby5450 i’m asking you Does he get rid of the ability for them to breathe or does it get rid of the techniques of breathing?

    • @blitz_cuby5450
      @blitz_cuby5450 Год назад

      @@sinfuladam the ability to breathe so he loses

    • @sinfuladam
      @sinfuladam Год назад +1

      @@blitz_cuby5450 so the concept of breathing he takes away from the world right

  • @DrStealthbug
    @DrStealthbug Год назад +3

    The big factor here is that Kumagawa's whole thing is that he never wins. He loses, and then uses All-Fiction to make his losses fiction.

    • @nonamepetko
      @nonamepetko Год назад +2

      We still see him defeat people in the story, he just doesn't see those occurrences as wins tho. Still the people who he fought were for the ER at best and he was pretty much untouched due to all fiction.

  • @Chwebuu
    @Chwebuu Год назад +8

    Goku so Iconic everybody can't stop trying to find a way to kill him

    • @Sir.BlackHole
      @Sir.BlackHole 4 месяца назад +1

      A way?😂 There are infinite ways

    • @Guts_Tod
      @Guts_Tod 4 месяца назад

      @@Sir.BlackHoleD1 level hating?

    • @captainb.mccrea5480
      @captainb.mccrea5480 4 месяца назад

      He’s fodder lmao there’s hundreds of characters in anime ALONE that could slam him and verse

    • @陈小明-k7u
      @陈小明-k7u 3 месяца назад

      @@captainb.mccrea5480 Non cannon gokus left the chat

    • @gazzmania150
      @gazzmania150 2 месяца назад

      @@captainb.mccrea5480 he being Kumagawa? Because bro already knows what happens when he tries something against someone with "anti-hax" or hax of their own.
      I love him as a character, but power scalers gas him up way to much.
      He has limits and things he can't erase, even in his own verse

  • @flaccidpancake7003
    @flaccidpancake7003 Год назад +14

    You didnt also mention his Imagination Manifestation which isn't even considered a skill that medaka can copy. Since its literally his own sheer willpower that brings things to existence. This is how he makes his endless supply of screws. Hell he could even make any weapon and give it any ability or property he wants. He just uses screws because he thinks its stylish. Theres also his Hundred Gauntlets which he can use to reverse cause and effect. Broken as hell.

    • @davidedavide2100
      @davidedavide2100 11 месяцев назад +1

      Sorry for asking these things now, but:
      - when was it stated and/or demonstrated that he can give any ability and property he wants to what he creates, without any limit, if this is what you meant?
      - can he actually use Hundred Gauntlets? It seemed that it was just a part still not twisted of All Fiction, which just made All Fiction complete. Also, I theorize that Hundred Gauntlets got distorted completely when Misogi obtained Non-Fiction, since Non-Fiction should be a perfect, complete All Fiction and maybe All Fiction wasn't complete because Hundred Gauntlets hadn't been twisted completely yet

    • @Fau499
      @Fau499 9 месяцев назад

      @@davidedavide2100all fiction was already beyond insane, but non-fiction? an even more insane version of all fiction? oh god

    • @davidedavide2100
      @davidedavide2100 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@Fau499 Yeah, All Fiction had the limit that it couldn't be used on it's own effect and then it evolved surpassing this limit and Misogi named the evolution of All Fiction "Non-Fiction"

    • @davidedavide2100
      @davidedavide2100 9 месяцев назад

      @@Fau499 Is All Fiction really beyond insane though? It is indeed cool, powerful and dangerous

    • @Fau499
      @Fau499 9 месяцев назад

      @@davidedavide2100 like I meant it being so broken that it's beyond insane trying to fight against it, but the fact there's an even stronger version of it

  • @clancygilroy3001
    @clancygilroy3001 Год назад +5

    rimuru survived deletion, like, the enemy deleted his existence, his ENTIRE existence, past, future, all of it, but he survived it, deleting the universe would not kill him.

    • @EepyDaSleepy
      @EepyDaSleepy 4 месяца назад

      But what if he says that slimes don't exist

  • @spawsome1756
    @spawsome1756 Год назад +14

    What if for DC and Marvel, Kumagawa used all fiction by erasing the concept of superheroes, supervillains, and the concept of species other than humans? Would that still work?

    • @000-v7j
      @000-v7j Год назад +2

      a little late but no, he couldn't because of the gap is cosmology and their are some Tier 0 characters in both so even f he did it wouldn't matter because they scale above him and would just be unaffected

    • @spawsome1756
      @spawsome1756 Год назад +1

      @@000-v7j that does make a lot of sense. Thanks for your input.

    • @andotv9320
      @andotv9320 3 месяца назад

      actually it would work and all of them would cease to exist

    • @DeidaraSanji
      @DeidaraSanji 3 месяца назад +1

      I don't think Kumagawa can erase concepts above his understanding and since he is a regular human in the end, he shouldn't be able to completely erase Galactus, Eternity, Infinity, Anti Monitor, etc. However, Medaka and Ajimu (who is a Tier 0 entity, according to Issin's EXPO statements) can actually erase them pretty casually except maybe other Tier 0 entities.

  • @sharky-vr-s7w
    @sharky-vr-s7w 3 месяца назад +1

    light novel rimuru: yeah imma just... *rewrites charater to be a litt baby with no powers * GLUTTONUS KING:BELZEBUB

  • @monkeydluffy-fu3vj
    @monkeydluffy-fu3vj Год назад +3

    lol i like whole universes are seen as "underdogs" against this guy

  • @mint3863
    @mint3863 Год назад +13

    also if kumagama made himself immortal and got rid of, chi and magic in the db verse, there are a lot of techniques used such as ultra instinct and destruction that the gods use to kind of break the laws of physics to turn matter into nothing (but into energy really, which makes annihilation) But I don't know, a lot of things to consider

    • @steelersfan367
      @steelersfan367 Год назад

      Kumagawa IS immortal, all fiction makes him immortal.

  • @Bobo-IsKool
    @Bobo-IsKool Год назад +3

    Another funny thing abt why kumagawa removed all colors from the world is not because his enemies uses atk based off of colors or something like that, it’s prob because the writer did it so that way when drawing, it’s much more easier. And much more faster. 😂
    But still I don’t think it’s true. Since I just got that thought lol.

  • @QuazarNovaPrime
    @QuazarNovaPrime Год назад +19

    To determine the Strongest/Powerful Anime Character is to determine the most superior, highest Dimensional, detailed anime verse's Strongest character.
    Probably Hajun, but the strongest Fictional Character in my opinion is the strongest fictional verse with the strongest character belongs to the SCP Foundation verse, because for what I've heard the SCP Verse belongs to everyone and anyone that has made an SCP has an influence on to how Big the Dimensionality, Scaling, cosmology the SCP verse gets
    While Shows like DBZ and OPM can only be influenced by a 1 or 2 or more authors the SCP verse is just the ultimate Verse with the internet as it's author.

    • @omnipresentl1316
      @omnipresentl1316 Год назад

      Well, there is also The World of Darkness. I don't have much experience with it but from what I've seen it's comparable to SCP and even above a lot of characters. Hell, humans from that universe can be busted if they know what they're capable of.

    • @namesdontmattergaming2756
      @namesdontmattergaming2756 Год назад

      Whose Hajun?

    • @omnipresentl1316
      @omnipresentl1316 Год назад +6

      @@namesdontmattergaming2756 a boundless God from Shinza Bansho who has a complex explanation for how scaling in his verse works and he transcends all things or something like that. I think someone said he beat two other boundless beings with 3 fingers or something.

    • @flowclown9179
      @flowclown9179 Год назад

      The Chinese SCP foundation can be stronger but not strongest in fiction, there are fanmade stuff and chinese mythology, japanese mythology stuff, Buddhism and Hinduism
      Lord Shiva third eyes and Lord Buddha are that just boundless being and beyond human comprehension

    • @joshjo9405
      @joshjo9405 Год назад

      What about Bobobo?

  • @Toji-hs4om
    @Toji-hs4om 4 месяца назад +2

    Rimuru has the ultimate skill resistance witch lets him survive the destruction of thousands of universes

  • @Narrativerse
    @Narrativerse Год назад +27

    Small correction for 9:00
    Its not magic, but Ethernano that are the source of all power in Fairy Tail. (well, mainly you also have demono particles that use curse instead of spell or Being cursed by a God that leads to concept manipulation, like Life and Death)
    Ethernano are nanoparticles that exist within a planet athmosphere, once they are absorbed by a mage (usually at rest, with a specific bonus organ they have) they will convert it into magic power over time.
    And magic power is used to use spell and magic. (Ethernano can also support anti-magic spell)
    But you can have entity inside of the Fairy Tail universe that have infinite magic power without the need of Ethernano (or vice versa) like Fairy Heart.
    Or a breach in space-time that create a true void fill with temporal magic power.
    Basically converting ethernano into magic automatically without the need of time or space.
    You also have fusion power inside Fairy Tail, with Etherion and Wall Eatho body. (particles fusion that can reach 200 millions degree Celsius)
    Or power that bypass concept such as time, space, invulnerability to fire and infinity. (See how Natsu can just get angrier and burn those)
    Its because emotion are also linked to magic, with ''Love'' being the first one.
    For the range of the concept of ''magic'', there is also spell which magic can reset countless timeline branch, like Neo Eclipse. (Basically reaching outside of time itself)
    And finally for the most recent chapters of 100 Years Quest, there are also now Guns and Alchemy in FT.
    So yeah, I get the power but trying to cancel all of that with one short thought is probably impossible.
    I can see removing Ethernano, removing demono particles and removing Alchemy.
    But what about Fairy Heart? Or object charged with magic power prior to All Fiction use, like in Edolas? (And all the other tech they have to fight too)
    For me he don't have the point. (He can remove the atmosphere of Earthland and kill 99% of the main cast overtime though)

    • @randomthings8732
      @randomthings8732 Год назад

      In that case, our score is 7-6, pretty close sheesh.

    • @damdoggy5630
      @damdoggy5630 Год назад

      a small correction...?

    • @abelangelo4124
      @abelangelo4124 Год назад

      I aint Reading all that

    • @Narrativerse
      @Narrativerse Год назад

      @@damdoggy5630 Took me about 3 mins to write so yes

    • @luissaumeth8000
      @luissaumeth8000 9 месяцев назад

      "so yeah, i get the power but trying to cancell all of that with one short thought is probably impossible" kumagawa erased the whole concept of colors once, erasing by addition: bloodlose, damage, etc. just by thinking the colors just don't exist

  • @boulevardofbrokenmemes1170
    @boulevardofbrokenmemes1170 Год назад +10

    I suppose it comes down to outpacing the speed of thought, right? most characters get their asses kicked because they aren't faster than his thoughts, but of course, there's concepts like Hakai and the Shadow Realm, which are debatable.

    • @TheArtDump
      @TheArtDump Год назад +4

      Even if they outpace his thoughts it doesn't really mean much. They wouldn't be able to actually kill him making them attacking him fast kinda not mean much

    • @overseerpjoe9477
      @overseerpjoe9477 Год назад +9

      All-Fiction would undo his death automatically, he doesn't need to think about it, so speed blitzing, like so many comments are saying, wouldn't do anything. They would kill him, and he would get right back up.
      Being sent to the Shadow Realm, or being sealed away somehow, is also something he could undo. In fact, there was a story arc in Medaka Box where a bunch of characters got sealed away, including him, and he was the first one to get out. So, that wouldn't work.
      Hakai/something to erase his existence would work, since All-Fiction can't undo undoing something. However, he gets a new ability in the epilogue chapter called Non-Fiction, that allows him to undo undoing something, so he could possible come back from being erased from existence with Non-Fiction the same way he comes back from being dead using All-Fiction.

    • @paragonandarky
      @paragonandarky Год назад

      ​@@overseerpjoe9477 No prove he can come back from non existence?

    • @overseerpjoe9477
      @overseerpjoe9477 Год назад +5

      @@paragonandarky I just said that he has a power that can undo the erasure of existence. I'm not 100% saying that he could some back from being hakai'd or whatever, just making conjecture.
      Since he has All-Fiction that brings him back from dying, it wouldn't be that hard to assume he could come back from erasure with Non-Fiction.

    • @paragonandarky
      @paragonandarky Год назад

      @@overseerpjoe9477 Not soul erasure but physical maybe

  • @mydeadlyadventuredescanorj9756
    @mydeadlyadventuredescanorj9756 Год назад +24

    Hao from shaman king usually comes to my mind when I think about OP as hell characters or anyone who can beat Goku like Rimuru, Anos, Giorno, Saint Seiya & Sailor Moon

  • @nidadecastro7916
    @nidadecastro7916 10 месяцев назад +1

    Below kumagawa is basically takatou ngl one shotting people

  • @spinothenoooob6050
    @spinothenoooob6050 9 месяцев назад +2

    speed is a factor
    thought speed is also imp.

    • @DeidaraSanji
      @DeidaraSanji 3 месяца назад +1

      Kumagawa has access to infinite speed via erasing the concept of speed on himself and uses it pretty casually throughout the series.

  • @cluesquard1801
    @cluesquard1801 Год назад +11

    Might guy and rock lee does not have any chakra the aura around them is just a lot of sweat. To prove this when kishame tried to absorb his charkra while might guy was using fifth inner gate he was not able to do it and when kishame asked might guy told hime about the sweat aura thingy
    BTW nice videoes💗💗

  • @dpo8922
    @dpo8922 Год назад +15

    With DBZ, Kumagawa could just make Martial Arts and Non-Human Sentient life forms "fiction" so that could've been a point to him for DBZ

    • @777gers
      @777gers 7 месяцев назад +1

      I think Mystical Goku from DB-GT can fight back Kumugawa or all fiction cuz cuz Goku is already omnipotent omnipresent no time exist on him or limit after he fuses as a dragon god

    • @lookherelooklisten7850
      @lookherelooklisten7850 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@777gersbruh Goku ain't shit, he isn't even top 10 in his own anime, stop trying to always make Goku win with any character out there, if he isn't even powerful in his own anime just don't bring him up.

    • @Did_I_ask
      @Did_I_ask 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@lookherelooklisten7850first stop projecting, second Goku is actually powerful scaling to low comp multi, lastly nobody cares about your rage bit and I don't remember kumagawa blizting a time skipper, nearly destroying his universe whilst also having feats of beating people who walks through a time prison like a morning also that little power he has is useless if he can't back it up with actual strength he's getting gut checked and killed the moment the fight starts

    • @Did_I_ask
      @Did_I_ask 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@lookherelooklisten7850 Genuine question can people in his verse destroy multiple universes also dragon ball like 12 universes are all 6-7D structures it's no big deal

  • @badcake4915
    @badcake4915 Год назад +8

    didn't he have a sealing ability too? y'know when Ashinshin-san appear for the first actual time, she has multiple screw that was sealing most if not all of her power? so, i reread chapter 151 and bookmaker is not just turning people to be just like him, its also a seal. Ashinshin-san can break the seal after 3 years with her 4 quadrillion skills. so it doesn’t mean much if the bookmaker is used against Medaka or Ajimu, but for other people that’s the worst thing ever happened

  • @stephenbeatty9856
    @stephenbeatty9856 2 месяца назад +2

    That’s cool but why tf the thumbnail be looking like bad apple

  • @billy1611
    @billy1611 Год назад +1

    7:27 said he will need to use 3 to get rid of all that powers
    Kumagawa be like: saiyans don't exist anymore your done [all-fiction]

  • @BRAINDEADWASTAKEN
    @BRAINDEADWASTAKEN Год назад +3

    Kumagawa could just all fiction the rules of this video 😂

  • @delanofawkes6807
    @delanofawkes6807 Год назад +17

    dude he is invincible,all he has to do is use all fiction and all the universes cease to exist
    no one is immune to his power other than him,he can even basically make himself immortal

    • @darkhound34
      @darkhound34 Год назад +1

      Flaw. All fiction activates automatically when he dies.

    • @paragonandarky
      @paragonandarky Год назад +2

      Hakai will take care of that

    • @wake6000
      @wake6000 Год назад +1

      ​@@paragonandarky ...you do realise that all fiction overwrites anything that affects him right?

    • @randomthings8732
      @randomthings8732 Год назад +1

      Against a character like yogiri Takatou though, either they'd be at a draw, or it just wouldn't happen at all cause their powers are so very similar..
      Though, I'm pretty sure yogiri has a good chance to win since there's a possibility he might just be "the end" incarnate but it's hard to say.
      (Yogiri is from "Instant Death fyi)

    • @markjustinbultron7371
      @markjustinbultron7371 Год назад +1

      ​@@randomthings8732 oh he would definitely win that battle, since Yogiri is the Complete Embodiment of the End after all, since much like everybody else Kumagawa also has an End after all, since if Kumagawa even thinks of killing, attacking or harming Yogiri, he would die Instantly without him realizing what happened, since Instant Death instantly without any delay would kill anyone that thinks to harm Yogiri from Existence itself, it would even kill his Parent so that he wouldn't been born and existed in the first place really

  • @beckbrofanboy
    @beckbrofanboy 4 месяца назад +3

    Curious Jorge is getting curious and put this man in a pack

    • @uri8v647
      @uri8v647 4 месяца назад

      Curious George might have some trouble fighting but we all now who’s winning curious George

  • @ruthbarnes1660
    @ruthbarnes1660 4 месяца назад +2

    8:56 (fairy tail) In the Tartarus arc there are demons that use a power called curses the demons tried to remove magic from the world so that they could revive END, if there's no magic there are curses, curses are used by demons, you failed to mention that...

  • @lucasrummel5550
    @lucasrummel5550 Год назад +2

    The thing is with this character nobody really cares about characters like him who never really worked hard to get were he was or has a variety of skills/moves all he has to do is think of making Goku or whoever he’s fighting disappear and there is really no fight it’s just kinda a five second thought

    • @KumagawaMisogi
      @KumagawaMisogi Год назад +2

      Oh trust me, Kumagawa didn’t gain all this power by being lazy. In the most twisted of ways he had to develop some of these skills through actual effort.

    • @lucasrummel5550
      @lucasrummel5550 Год назад +1

      True but also compared to other characters who work just as hard or even harder don’t even get close to how strong he his

    • @lucasrummel5550
      @lucasrummel5550 Год назад

      It’s like the same thing why a lot of people dislike one punch man because even though many charters in anime train harder than Siatama but still are not even close to his power. and even the person who made this video he agrees at 3:41 we’re he says the powers are completely BS because all he has to do is just think hey I want this person to die and then he just wins with a flawless performance and victory just like that and also anyone can make a op character from any media like i could write a book we’re the main character for practically no reason is impossible to kill and has unlimited power but the road to achieving the power is what makes comparing characters fighting abilities so fun and that’s why this character is so unrecognized because it’s not even fair

    • @KumagawaMisogi
      @KumagawaMisogi Год назад +1

      @@lucasrummel5550 tbh that’s the whole point of his character, he’s suppose to be busted in the most ridiculous of ways with powers that even defy the common trope of characters training for years to get stronger (Ironically that’s been done to death so many times to the point where it’s just not even worth what it was years ago) but regardless of the fact that he is so powerful it ultimately doesn’t matter.
      His character isn’t suppose to be the strongest at all, he’s truthfully the weakest character you’ll ever meet in the fact that he is unable to win. Ever.
      It’s honestly that simple. In fact Kumagawa is actually written so well that he single-handedly saved his own manga from being cancelled when he was introduced. Heck he was pretty famous in Japan for a time to. He actually has masterful and poetic levels of writing when you delve into his character but I digress.
      Kumagawa would lose even with these bs abilities that’s his whole character. No matter what he cannot win. He isn’t just OP just to be OP. There’s a reason he is known as the “Good Loser” Kumagawa would lose to anyone. Goku, Naruto, Luffy, a snail, even a something as simple as paper could defeat him. Even if Kumagawa does train like Goku, he would still lose. That’s just the sad reality of his character.

    • @lucasrummel5550
      @lucasrummel5550 Год назад

      My main point is that this is why none likes comparing him to other fighters in anime because all he has to do is think about defeating his opponent and that’s why none likes to compare him I understand why you would say that he is a poetic character and it’s creative but it’s not my point also when he does not have a verity of moves that are comparable it is just more annoying to compare him to others

  • @Imagine8849
    @Imagine8849 Год назад +11

    Kumagawa is great but we all truly know that ajimu is strongest if we're not using medaka with plot armor

    • @poopoo7107
      @poopoo7107 Год назад

      didn't kumegawa beat ajimu? this was before even gaining all fiction.

    • @Imagine8849
      @Imagine8849 Год назад +2

      @@poopoo7107 he sealed her with book maker

    • @poopoo7107
      @poopoo7107 Год назад

      @@Imagine8849 yea which is a crazy feat considering he's way stronger than he was at the time

    • @Imagine8849
      @Imagine8849 Год назад

      @@poopoo7107 the story works in an odd ways its already clear that ajimu is beyond everyone but she never really tries to interfere cause every time she tried the author steps in. Ajimu is consider to be one of the strongest anime/manga characters ever. While kumagawa all fiction Is powerful its was ajimu 100 gauntlet first. And does get given back. For example medaka winning is guaranteed no matter who it is cause that's how the story is. If you were to drop the whole db series from Canon to non Canon into the medaka box story medaka would win

    • @poopoo7107
      @poopoo7107 Год назад +1

      @@Imagine8849 i mean yea because "plot" is just the most busted part of a story, if it wasn't presant, ajumu should by all means be on a whole diff level from medaka, that being said i doubt plot would ever favor misogi, so i still count it as a win since even ajimu was threatened enough by bookmaker to take it away, only to realise that she made a mistake after all fiction appeared

  • @xuotami
    @xuotami Год назад +5

    I'd argue Akuto Sai would be stronger with his Causality Manipulation, Acausality, and all the other abilities. But no doubt that Kumagawa is indeed a force to be reckoned with.

    • @xuotami
      @xuotami Год назад +2

      I just believe that All Stories > All Fiction. Yeah ik it isn't called All Stories but it's basically what it is.

    • @thiagotoloza2028
      @thiagotoloza2028 4 месяца назад

      Kumagawa también interfiere con la causalidad, y a nivel conceptual.
      Lo que determina la victoria es quien tiene más capas en el uso de manipulación conceptual.

  • @wolfherojohnson2766
    @wolfherojohnson2766 Год назад +9

    I’m curious as to how many uses it would take to neutralize the Persona/SMT series.
    Two would already need to be used to get rid of demons and personas. As for the third, he would have to choose between either: Getting rid of special cases (Demifiend and The Nahobino), getting rid of alternate worlds (TV World, Tartarus, the Metaverse), or getting rid of shadows

    • @mr_dino4222
      @mr_dino4222 Год назад +2

      Problem with this is that no amount of uses would allow him to neutralize. Like, all the things you mention, they're capable of coming back from outright existence erasure, and often wield conceptual manipulation on a FAAAAR greater scale than All Fiction.

    • @wolfherojohnson2766
      @wolfherojohnson2766 Год назад

      @@mr_dino4222 How so?

    • @mr_dino4222
      @mr_dino4222 Год назад

      @Wolfhero Johnson The Phantom Thieves get essentially All Fiction'd near the end of P5, but get erased from KNOWLEDGE as well as existence. They ignore it and make themselves exist anyway. Many other far more powerful entities would be capable of similar things, assuming All Fiction could even do anything to them to begin with, which, on the scale that SMT functions, is highly doubtful.
      Also, a thing I didn't mention in my prior comment that makes it even *less* possible for All Fiction to work is Observation. Observation is a metaphysical force in SMT, including Persona, that essentially makes it so that anything one perceives as real, is. Generally, the more powerful an entity in the series is, the more powerful their Observation, with one exception: humanity. An individual human's Observation is incredibly weak, not really affecting anything, but it has compounding effects across the incredibly highly complex multiverse that is the franchise, to the point that CHEMTRAILS, for example exist as a Demon. As long as either a powerful entity or the collective humanity believes something to be real, All Fiction simply can't impact it, and the list of such things is as follows:
      Demons
      Gods
      Humanity(and by extension shadows and personal, as they are parts of humans)
      Basically everything else.
      Adding onto all of this, if he somehow knew about Observation to try and All Fiction that, he'd now be facing the wrath of The Axiom for messing with its gift to mankind, who would respond by erasing him from existence, history and thought, and then reinstate Observation anyways making the one thing worth affecting that he could even hope to, pointless.

    • @wolfherojohnson2766
      @wolfherojohnson2766 Год назад

      @@mr_dino4222 Huh. No wonder Persona scales to multiversal

    • @sonicbenchino.6324
      @sonicbenchino.6324 10 месяцев назад

      yeaaah but all fiction just brings him back from the erasure, kumagawa's all fiction activates automatically when he gets killed and he returns back, he cant die, dudes basically immortal, more in the manga that is when he gets non fiction and one hundred guantlets wich he can destroy restore and make anybody piss they're self only by his thought, upgraded minus all fiction can just erase the concept no matter what.@@mr_dino4222

  • @Jamiroquai_real_
    @Jamiroquai_real_ Год назад +2

    There is another stand that can beat Kumagawa but the stand isn't cannon. Its called "Beyond" or "Go Beyond", its user is Jesus Christ and it allows Jesus to change Fate. Fate is a massively big thing in JoJo because if Kumagawa just erased fate, there is no longer a guarantee he is going to win. Like DIO explained, Fate is like a gravity that pulls people towards each other (im sure most people know this) so if someone were Fated to defeat someone else then Fate will make that happen. If Kumagawa erased Fate, it gives both Jesus and Kumagawa 50/50 chance to win even if it looks like Kumagawa has the advantage with his bolts.

  • @spinothenoooob6050
    @spinothenoooob6050 9 месяцев назад +1

    0.33
    goku, jiren, frieza, gohan, piccolo, gas, moro, uub, granolah, all G.O.Ds, all angels, zeno, super shenron, zalama, zamasu, black, hit, anos, rimuru, hajun, fetherine, akuto sai, anti-spiral, simon, hadou gods(i considered hajun seperately cause in his own worlds, he can crush all of then with a finger), celestial sapiens, thanos, CAS, lucifer, TOAA, TOBA, TOBA hulk, etc can all destroy a uni+ plus more casually

  • @crayjay11
    @crayjay11 Год назад +4

    Couldn’t Kumagawa make it fiction that his power is ONLY for making stuff fiction? Then his power could also just edit reality.

  • @carrot708
    @carrot708 Год назад +14

    Even if Goku got hit with a flat screw, he'd still be dangerous. Even without strength or a high power level, the techniques and tricks Goku knows alone make him pretty busted. You'd have to make the entire concepts of martial arts and ki fiction

    • @logan12satcom83
      @logan12satcom83 Год назад +1

      I mean he could just think that Goku universe is fiction and win that way

    • @PompeiSurvivor
      @PompeiSurvivor Год назад +3

      @@logan12satcom83 better yet, just make all sayians fiction. that one action removes some of the biggest hurdles.

    • @thatanonwholurksmoar7386
      @thatanonwholurksmoar7386 11 месяцев назад

      ​​@@PompeiSurvivorpretty much. Saiyans, Angels and Gods are fiction and thats gg

    • @ItsAlkey
      @ItsAlkey 9 месяцев назад +1

      “What do you mean, sayians don’t exist” boom clapped game over

    • @Dripy7247
      @Dripy7247 9 месяцев назад

      We must remind you how capable Goku is.

  • @PhantomRage21
    @PhantomRage21 Год назад +8

    i have a theory, will kumagawa's all fiction even work a against fictional characters? because they already are fictional characters, so what's kumagawa gonna do?

    • @pillowmaster4818
      @pillowmaster4818 Год назад

      Erase the concept of fiction, any concepts can be erased as long as he thinks about it. I mean if fictional characters were to fight him they would no longer be fiction would they?

    • @randomthings8732
      @randomthings8732 Год назад

      ​@@pillowmaster4818 but can the concept of concepts be erased I wonder? If so, then his power becomes useless. You can't erase something that technically doesn't exist.. Also, I think that might just end the universe so nvm

  • @SatrouGojo1
    @SatrouGojo1 Год назад +1

    you forgot kumagawa can say to goku you are now a human

  • @Anto4writting
    @Anto4writting Год назад +2

    What about Stain? Even without his quirk phisicaly the man is a fucking beast. And even then he has that bloodlust ability

  • @machaxy6201
    @machaxy6201 Год назад +4

    Question, for jjk how would Kumagawa fair against Toji? Sure he uses cursed weapons but he's still strong as hell without them.

    • @zellnogami
      @zellnogami Год назад +2

      Well if Toji dont get screwed then he win probably ? I dont know

    • @sanicboi9187
      @sanicboi9187 Год назад +1

      Bro can still just erase him out of existence I think

    • @zellnogami
      @zellnogami Год назад

      If he could he would won in his own manga i think? Did he erase someone ??? I dont know

    • @anthonynguyen1289
      @anthonynguyen1289 Год назад +3

      He could erase Heavenly Restrictions which is the reason why Toji is strong. Also erasing curse energy may already cancel Heavenly Restrictions since those rely on either taking away your cursed energy for a stronger body or giving you more cursed energy in exchange a weaker body.

    • @zellnogami
      @zellnogami Год назад +2

      Wait Toji is strong because of that ? I thought he was strong because he is strong even if he dont have cursed energy

  • @PLATTYVR
    @PLATTYVR 4 месяца назад +53

    *Curious George solos*

  • @ahmedgosai4391
    @ahmedgosai4391 Год назад +11

    there are literally people that can negate this dudes power, like hajun for example, he is a boundless being, A.K.A, A tier 0 being which means he isn't bound to concepts nor anything of that, even though Kumagawa isn't bound to concepts.

    • @joyd7530
      @joyd7530 Год назад

      nuh uh bro, boundless is too overkill, take someone else who is not bound to reality, then they already solos kumagawa

    • @ahmedgosai4391
      @ahmedgosai4391 Год назад

      @@joyd7530 akuto sai

    • @ahmedgosai4391
      @ahmedgosai4391 Год назад

      he is only tier 1-A, or high outerversal

    • @ahmedgosai4391
      @ahmedgosai4391 Год назад

      @@joyd7530 scp-682, lucifer morningstar, featherine, the batman who laughs and many more

    • @joyd7530
      @joyd7530 Год назад

      yeah thats it 🗿🍷

  • @noobzery226
    @noobzery226 Год назад +1

    I thought medaka box was just a calm anime about two people going around and doing task but one episode EVERYTHING changed and I was shocked that's, why o love medaka box so much

  • @siringc
    @siringc 5 месяцев назад +2

    correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that the androids are able to get infinite ki from tapping into another dimension or something like that, meaning that erasing ki would also affect that.

  • @psychic-friend-toy-freddy
    @psychic-friend-toy-freddy Год назад +4

    I feel like truth and anti spiral are some characters that have potential to be the strongest

  • @cooldude9755
    @cooldude9755 Год назад +16

    You should look at takato yogiri from the manga instant death. He has probably, if not the most, broken power in all of fiction that allows him to kill anything.

    • @randomsmartguy9544
      @randomsmartguy9544 Год назад

      not really their are tons of people who can erase their death or just come back for example kumugawa can erase his death and lots of them have soul minip so that is most of the time insta death and even if it's permanent some could just ignore it and still come back

    • @cooldude9755
      @cooldude9755 Год назад +4

      @random smart guy the thing that makes it so broken is that they can't just ignore it. If someone has immortality or an ability that keeps them from dying, he can just kill it.

    • @Greenst4rX
      @Greenst4rX Год назад

      ​@@randomsmartguy9544 it's just that you can't ignore it. Either way you die, you literally can't escape death as long as he say it.

    • @uteriel282
      @uteriel282 Год назад +2

      @@cooldude9755
      and kumagawa can just erase the existence of that ability.
      all fiction is one directional omnipotence in that theres no limit to what it can erase including itself.

    • @maskedinari7705
      @maskedinari7705 Год назад +2

      @@uteriel282
      Well, you see it's not a ability, some spoilers
      (English is not my first language, so any error please understand)
      .
      Yogiri is in actually the concept of The End in itself, if all things have a path Yogiri is the end of that path
      So Yogiri can "kill" All Fiction, because All Fiction path ends within Yogiri
      Which means in a fight between them the first to use their ability wins, considering that All Fiction could erase the concept of The End

  • @PaperAirplane1589
    @PaperAirplane1589 Год назад +4

    I'd love to see how All Fiction VS DIO Over Heaven/The World Over Heaven would go. Both powers can manipulate reality, so it seems like a fair fight. Correct me if I'm wrong.

    • @nothingness4068
      @nothingness4068 9 месяцев назад +3

      Dio over heavens ability is limited to his hands and not a passive like kumagawas but if Dio stops time before kumagawa does anything then he would win

    • @thiagotoloza2028
      @thiagotoloza2028 4 месяца назад +1

      Su manipulación de la realidad afecta todo el multiverso, tanto en ap como en rango. Pero nada más, AF aún es superior.

    • @thiagotoloza2028
      @thiagotoloza2028 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@nothingness4068Kumagawa puede moverse en tiempo 0.

  • @qhouI
    @qhouI 5 дней назад +1

    First of all, Goku’s speed and strength alone is enough to overpower Kumagawa, clearly you weren’t paying attention to Goku’s feats while think about making this video, or anyone’s feats, if it takes Kumagawa to think what he wants to happen then all the character has to do is be faster than a thought, something that Goku transcends far beyond. Second of all, if we’re talking about Giorno’s stand being able to go back in time and reverse Kumagawa’s thought, you should’ve brought up the fact that there’s an ability in Naruto called Izanagi, where the sharingan user changes the reality of the fight, or just any genjutsu user in Naruto, as Kumagawa will be in the genjutsu before he even knows he’s in the fight. Third of all, his thought is all that counts right, meaning that Gojo, the same character he used saying that people would think that he is one of the strongest anime characters, literally has an ability where the opponents mind is fluffed with infinite information, meaning Kumagawa wouldn’t even be able to think while in Gojo’s domain. One piece, Luffy, conqueror’s haki, literally putting you to sleep meaning your brain is on rest mode. You could’ve used many examples from the same anime’s you debunked to say that Kumagawa is actually not as powerful as people think, he’s not even as powerful as he thinks, and that’s supposed to be his power, make it make sense.

  • @markjmarkjack
    @markjmarkjack Год назад

    Haven't read Medaka Box in 10 years but immediately remembered Kumagawa when I saw the thumbnail.

  • @joshuadworschak8914
    @joshuadworschak8914 Год назад +4

    great vid, keep it up!:) i agree with everything except Anos. he's shown in season 1 already that he stands above multiversal concepts and above the erasure of those concepts. Anos would mop the floor with him pretty easily as no conceptual things can bind him

  • @QuasarKnightGaming
    @QuasarKnightGaming Год назад +5

    Actually there is an answer to "Can Kumagawa beat X?" and its "Nope." He will lose every time. He'll always justify any win other than an absolute clear win without using any of his abilities as a loss, a cheap trick, or another "unreal win". Nihilism is a cruel mistress, and his powers will always ensure he loses every fight he is in. Why? He cannot IMAGINE his own victory. Its a plot point.

    • @davidedavide2100
      @davidedavide2100 11 месяцев назад

      He still defeated other characters in terms of fighting abilities, if we compare him with another character in terms of fighting abilities, should we really consider his personality? In this case, the winner is just who is more powerful and skilled at fighting, his personality should be another matter, no?

    • @777gers
      @777gers 7 месяцев назад +1

      This is interesting somebody remember X🫡
      You talking about kamui? it's been decade if my memory serve correctly Kamui's ability is destruction not but... he was the literal Destruction unlike Beruss from Dragon ball Super

    • @danger_1189
      @danger_1189 5 месяцев назад

      towards the end he was getting better, unlocking nonfiction and april fiction, he also won his bet with medaka. his first true win, so he could probably win things now

  • @Bread_Pugs
    @Bread_Pugs 5 месяцев назад +9

    is she gokuversal tho?

  • @FFire777
    @FFire777 Год назад +1

    **Sun Wukong walks in* *Ahh finally a worhty opponent.

  • @robbycooper6787
    @robbycooper6787 Год назад +1

    0:05 pucci

  • @demonic_wolf9795
    @demonic_wolf9795 Год назад +4

    Actually you just remove chakra And they all die because if you Run out of chakra in The naruto universe You Die

    • @arandomweeb1
      @arandomweeb1  Год назад +4

      Wait, really?! Boy, I thought they'd at least have a bit of a chance, not that they'd get wiped out instantly! XD

    • @alibeknorbekov5963
      @alibeknorbekov5963 Год назад

      Kuwa- i don't remember his name
      Just Uses Science fiction
      Chakra just didn't even existed
      If you take off from like Naruto his all chakra he dies
      But that ability is different

    • @TheTrueProtoganistOfLife2321
      @TheTrueProtoganistOfLife2321 Год назад

      ​@@arandomweeb1 now compares kumagawa to scp

    • @TheTrueProtoganistOfLife2321
      @TheTrueProtoganistOfLife2321 Год назад

      ​@@arandomweeb1 also hajun is the strongest anime character

  • @Doberman_1
    @Doberman_1 Год назад +4

    I think that Darkstalker from wings of fire (a book series about dragons) could beat Kumagawa because Darkstalker has the powers of being immortal, being able to read minds, being a dragon (which makes him super strong, super smart, super fast and he can fly), being able to see into almost an infinite amount of futures and he is an “Animus”( which makes it so anything that Darkstalker thinks/says comes true but the one thing he can’t do is bring humans or dragons back to life) for instance Darkstalker could think/say enchant myself to be immune to any of Kumagawa’s attacks/magic or think/say enchant this pebble to go at the speed of light into Kumagawa’s head then get logged inside of his brain then explode with the power of 100 atom bombs but only have the blast radius of 10 meters(so I doesn’t destroy the hole country) or he could think/say enchant Kumagawa to not have any powers. So that’s why Darkstalker could beat Kumagawa in a fight.

    • @Recon-601
      @Recon-601 Год назад +6

      This is assuming Kumagawa dosnt just say "immortality is gone" "Animus are gone" "dragons are gone"

    • @clarashun2848
      @clarashun2848 Год назад

      Kumagawa could just erased those concepts bro 😂

  • @omegaalpha8380
    @omegaalpha8380 Год назад +4

    Problem here is that ppl like rimuru & anos have resistances to things that could effect their existence of himself and his abilities although he could effect other things i'm 99% sure there's nothing he can do to straight get rid of ppl like anos and rimuru. Rimuru even has the ability to accidently destroy universes like his move turn null. I will edit this if i realize something different.

    • @otakufengmin1582
      @otakufengmin1582 Год назад +2

      Yeah but this man can just erase you by just thinking it, resistance or not you just dont exsist to him

    • @zxbplayshd
      @zxbplayshd Год назад +1

      @@otakufengmin1582 ok but what if you're resistant to being erased? what if the concept of not existing cannot be applied to you?

    • @poopoo7107
      @poopoo7107 Год назад +1

      unfortunately, people like rimuru pretty much live and die by their system, take that out and they become way more managabe, so making it so that the system would have never existed should be enough

    • @omegaalpha8380
      @omegaalpha8380 Год назад

      @@poopoo7107 Possibly

    • @clarashun2848
      @clarashun2848 Год назад

      ​@@zxbplayshdKumagawa could just erased the concept of "Resistance" and boom he can completely erase him now lol

  • @tyrant-hachi
    @tyrant-hachi 14 дней назад

    Kumagawa: "People who are my equals and stronger than me to be removed from existence 😝"
    The Verse: "Really-"

  • @Chris_vs_Games
    @Chris_vs_Games 9 месяцев назад +1

    Wang Ling can also erase the universe by accident without his amulet

    • @stevjoshuapal-ing2263
      @stevjoshuapal-ing2263 8 месяцев назад

      Still he use energy power or qi meridian
      All fiction will erase it

    • @Chris_vs_Games
      @Chris_vs_Games 8 месяцев назад

      @@stevjoshuapal-ing2263 I'm saying he can erase the universe on accident do you even read

  • @MikeyX01
    @MikeyX01 4 месяца назад +3

    sorry but king from opm solos🔥🔥🔥

    • @LerixCz
      @LerixCz 4 месяца назад

      He will just erase him

    • @MurderousPenguin
      @MurderousPenguin 4 месяца назад

      His luck would somehow probably find a way to conjure up the most rediculous way for him to win

  • @tylerjames7841
    @tylerjames7841 4 месяца назад +14

    Goku solos everyone

  • @NormalNeu001
    @NormalNeu001 6 месяцев назад

    Kumagawa can canonically spawn his screws inside his opponents. The moment he is aware of your location it's over

  • @NullyDH
    @NullyDH Год назад +1

    btw kumagawa can imagine that they get hit by a screw so yeah

  • @The_Gaeilge_Man
    @The_Gaeilge_Man 5 месяцев назад +1

    dont even need to watch one second to know its sogeking from one pice

  • @Neptoon_dev
    @Neptoon_dev Год назад +2

    Three words gold expierance requiem

  • @renailearoy5193
    @renailearoy5193 Год назад

    11:35 Fun fact: it has been pointed out that even 100 years (I forgot the exact number) the people's bodies (yes even the regular people like ramen guy) have evolved to be so dependent on chakra that if they ever ran out... They die... If Kumagawa just removes chakra That's it, that's the whole verse just dead for the fact the author himself states how chakra has been so ingrained into their evolutionary history that it's literally what keeps anything and everything alive... Don't believe me, feel free to look it up yourself.

  • @StickmanStuff17373
    @StickmanStuff17373 5 месяцев назад +1

    It’s Tutorial Terry from Blocktales

  • @shiki9850
    @shiki9850 4 месяца назад

    I just remembered that kumagawa canonically knows everything about anything from other manga cause he has actually read pretty much every bit of manga lol.

  • @spinothenoooob6050
    @spinothenoooob6050 9 месяцев назад +1

    so by your logic
    lets say there is a saiyanite and it weakens a saiyan if it hit them and it will attach to their body as well and it makes them weaker than a new born human so they are preety much dead as inorder to take it off you need a great deal of strength which a normal saiyan could generate but this saiyan is infected so they can't do it and would need another saiyan with special equipments to help
    so lets say deku got a gun and he have a bullet made of saiyanite
    so deku slaps goku because he has this gun

    • @Espurr.8
      @Espurr.8 8 месяцев назад

      That not really a comparison

  • @something990
    @something990 Год назад

    Him vs SCP-682 that thing legit stopped existing and adapted to it to make himself exist again. He is so overpowered that I can’t name all of them.

  • @randzanime7656
    @randzanime7656 Год назад +1

    You forgot one point. Bookmaker erases the power of whoever it touches so once it hits Giorno, it's over

    • @davidedavide2100
      @davidedavide2100 11 месяцев назад

      Sorry for the maybe useless precisation and for writing it now, but for what I remember Book Maker doesn't erase powers, it seals them

  • @pine2850
    @pine2850 3 месяца назад

    "Azathoth"
    "So you like little girls anime? 🤣🤣"
    "What's anime?"

  • @Dos-Compadres
    @Dos-Compadres 4 месяца назад +2

    GER be like during the intro
    WHAT ABOUT MEEEEEE

    • @DeidaraSanji
      @DeidaraSanji 3 месяца назад

      GER's power null works by setting the opponent's will to absolute zero. Kumagawa's will is already zero, his other and original Minus, Bookmaker actually works on that concept too.

  • @zyxerian
    @zyxerian 5 месяцев назад +1

    bro miwa soloes all of fiction

  • @four-en-tee
    @four-en-tee Год назад +1

    Only problem is that he'd still lose somehow

  • @orkhanabdullayev-sr5xe
    @orkhanabdullayev-sr5xe Год назад

    1:38
    NOONE :
    Kars : hovv dare you take my spot you failure of a being!

  • @Trekov1
    @Trekov1 Год назад +1

    he's the funniest guy because his power is "nuh-uh"

  • @azuraquinlilax1245
    @azuraquinlilax1245 Год назад

    Kreia said it best “ without the force a Jedi is no more powerful then a normal man woman or child “

  • @echo3-196
    @echo3-196 Год назад

    Doesn't matter how op this guy is, the wacky wohoo pizza man still slams

  • @shiningjoot6369
    @shiningjoot6369 Год назад +1

    I told my friend who thinks goku solos all of fiction about this character and he just kept saying goku speed blitzes even when I told him goku can't win and he couldn't come up with anything other then goku speed blitzes then he left

  • @ghitaianis9022
    @ghitaianis9022 Год назад +2

    The problem with fights like this as soon as you get to the point where the characters have reality altering powers there is no reason in arguing in them fight cuz the winner is the authors choice

    • @victorvirgili4447
      @victorvirgili4447 5 месяцев назад

      Powerscaling wasn’t made to say “the writer decides”. That was the baseline. Powerscaling is here to say “but what if they didn’t?”. Powerscalers know that from a writer’s POV they are pointless. But they don’t care. Because powerscaling is all about bringing meaning to the meaningless fiction around us and taking cold-hard facts from pure conjecture. And for that, I respect all powerscalers.

  • @robbycooper6787
    @robbycooper6787 Год назад +1

    Can you put him against fanfiction OC’s.

  • @Nurix09
    @Nurix09 3 месяца назад

    3:17 That's because Kumagawa's natural hair color is actually White, he dyes his hair to Black.

  • @Fandom_Man
    @Fandom_Man 5 месяцев назад

    Another thing about Kumagawa is that he has read manga including the ones in the real world so if he goes into a anime universe he will already know all the powers of his opponent before the battle even starts

  • @excalibur981
    @excalibur981 Год назад +1

    Not an anime character but sun wukong literally blinks him away