Raven Tells Oprah She's NOT African-American | What's Trending Now
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- Ever wanted to see Oprah look really uncomfortable? Watch this interview. Raven-Symone is best known for starring in the Disney Channel's That's So Raven, for playing Olivia on The Cosby Show, and for that time she sang an awkward duet with Julie Andrews in the Princess Diaries sequel. Now she can add "making confusing statements about race" to her resumé-- right next to "having amazing hair." Subscribe for more videos! full.sc/NfhdwD
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She's NOT African-American, she's an American who also happens to be black. That's it. She's not saying "I'm not black" she's saying "I'm not African-American" 2 completely different things
No....she's African who happens to be American!!!
+Marc Walker black is an all encompassing term because not all people who are black have roots that are African
+DatVideoDoe....i totally disagree! Black is defined as it is, an individual with African descent. I don't classify, and most people don't classify all individuals who are of darker complexion black. It's totally based upon descent!
Your argument is invalid because Raven-Symone is of African decent but chooses to label herself as an American who happens to be Black! Somewhere down the line ignorant people have become to equate African American as black. In some cases that isn't quite true.
In Raven-symone case she is and always will be American but of African descent.
+Marc WalkerAfrican who happens to be American? She was born in America. If you wanna dig that far down her history, then she is just as African as she is European. Ger your facts straight.
+ScoopDeWOOP I have my facts straight thank you very much... It seems to me that there are so many ignorant people in the world today. There is a difference between nationality and race or heritage for that matter Google it. Learn the difference!
A blue eyed, blond hair woman who was born in the U.S from European parents, is simply called and referred to as an "American" from people all over the world
She isn't called "European-American"
But when a woman with African origins, born in the U.S and stems from a family with generations born in the U.S, she is called "African-American"
Are the two women different types of American?
Both carry the U.S nationality, and no one is less or more American than the other.
exactly! And what about people who are not even from Africa at all. Like none of their relatives came from there. Why in the world would we call them African American in the first place. None of it makes sense. Why don't we just start calling everyone in America Pangaean American lol. Everyone came from there at some point right?
Juliet Waleya theres no point to be called african American. Because in africa black Americans colored or mixed because they cant relate to tribes. We have mixed blood. Since American is a nation any born should called American. Just like a black man born in england is reffered to as a Englishmen. true african Americans are born in africa then move to usa
what any person born on usa soil should just be considered american its a nationality.
mji245 EXACTLY. Why is that so hard for people to understand?
+mji245 Well said.
i dont see anything wrong with what she said. personally i agree with her 100% if people stop labelong themselves, they cant get offended for being called 'something they are not' wish more people were like her. go Raven!
She didn't deny being black, she says she doesn't want to be labeled African American. That's what I've been saying my entire life. What little African genes I did inherit are so far back in generations that it would barely show that I have family from Africa just because that's how long ago it's been since I've had a living, actual African-American family member. I'm multiracial and I don't see anyone asking if I'm European American. I'm just American
Would be pretty hard for her to deny being black but then again you can be anything you're not in todays world. 😂
It is not an insult being called African or tagged African.Is it? Ask them
I get what Raven was saying. Being born in Britain I would not be labelled a "African-Brit" but a Brit. But America seems to love labels, though its the melting pot of the world. I think "black twitter" got into a bit of a wooha about it because they assumed she was denying her blackness as Africa is normally associated with black, but I do not think thats what Raven was doing she was just saying shes an American, like I am a Brit. Not an African-American.
Black_KateMoss I agree! here in the uk we dont label people like that. I find it so strange that america still has all these racial stigmas
Its so strange to see how the very people (like Oprah) who preach so much about inclusivity and treating everybody as humans/the same be so obsessed over race and trying so hard to differentiate themselves as a separate group, and try to shame/scare those who do not conform to that idea.
As someone non-american, I've always found the term "african-american" kind of weird. Imagine a black person whose ancestors came to America 300 years ago vs a white person whose grandparents moved there from, say, Ireland. One of them is called simply American, and the other is not. Why? Skin color.
Same reason a black can't be "called racist". Same reason a black can use the "N" word and others can't. There's a lack of intellect regarding these examples.
She meant exactly what she said: She doesnt want to be labeled.
Ergo, she doesnt want to belong in one box.
She feels her world is open, and wants the freedom to change her mind and spirit whenever she wants.
She feels like if she calls herself "Black" or "Gay" she will only be able to be black and gay, and not white and straight (i know she cant physically become white, but you know...).
I personally think she said it in the wrong way, but i get her point. She should have said "Im an open spirit, and I fly wherever i want to go. Therefore im neither gay or straight, black or white, or anything else. I may or may not be what other people think i am. I am what I choose to be in that moment, but its not something that may last forever. I am free."
Raven is right. She is an american as am I . I don't consider myself an mexican american. I am an american. I was born here, raised here as were y parents and grandparents. We were here before Texas became a state.
Don’t matter what you want to be labeled it is what it is
So what is it?
Maybe we should start calling white americans European-Americans....
I feel like she wanted to make the opposite of this point lol.
I think she's pretty impressive for saying that to Oprah.
Do you get what Raven was trying to say here?
Whether she likes it or not, she's black. Her skin color and ethnicity is not just a "label". It comes with a rich culture and heritage.
I DO get what Raven is trying to say, but IMO, I think it just send the inverse message as regards to the fact that she's gay. Ok, she doesn't wanna be called "african-american" because white people aren't called "european-americans". But in today's society, we need to show people, especially younger people like kids, that it's ok to be gay, to be a homossexual. I think that, by she saying "I refuse to be called gay", she may pass the impression that she doesn't wanna be associated with the "cause", if we can call it that, or somehow has shame of admiting she's homossexual in some way.
Either if it's the term "gay" or the label itself, I think that trying to move away from people saying "Raven has a lesbian/gay/homossexual relationship" hurts her more than does justice to her "Fight the labels" message.
Stephan Sanders of course she's black she just doesn't agree with the label "African-American", no other country calls black people like that (African-Germans).
Susie Mills Couldn't say it any better.
It is a confusing name. Many people who are called this are not from Africa. I always wondered how those people feel about being identified as something they are not just because they have a certain skin colour. That is dumb. Also she is probably talking about labels in general and not my confusion but seriously America I do not understand this label at all.
I'm comfortable with black American bc that is exactly what I am!! Black and American!!
She's saying that labels don't define who she is, a true statement
Raven may not want to be called gay, and that's her thought process. However, we live in a world where we have words to describe things. Her sexual orientation is what we call gay. For example, I am a man who is attracted to women, and therefore I am...yep you guessed it...straight. I agree with her views on African American. She is not one. I could take it a step further too. She is not black.
Incorrect. If you are "straight" and you have a crush on a person who is the same sex as you, lol, guess what...lmao. Y the mind games? Seriously. If you are gay claim it. I don't agree with that lifestyle but it's just my opinion. Stop moving or fading the line. It is what it is. If it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, looks like a duck, it's a .... you know the rest.
KAL EL she IS African American
I never knew Raven was... Umm... How do I say this without labeling her.
No I meant that she wasn't African American.
+NinjaQuinn no she's not. she is from the Lost Tribe Called in denial of self
...Olivia Kendall?
Im black and im American. I understand EXACTLY what she's saying. We are all so quick to call ourselves African-Americans even though the bloodlines get thinner and thinner with each generation that descended from african slaves. Most blacks dont know 4 things about true african heritage, And present day native africans actually HATE the fact we as americans label ourselves as african. They dont understand it. I can see why. The reason these racial prefuxes existed was to create a seperation between the natives of the land and immigrants or slaves. Last time i checked i was born here,im a native of america not africa, and if its about the "roots" of where you come from, i have yet to hear a white person call themselves EUROPEAN-American. So leave this woman alone!! Lol
What about illegal Mexicans jumping the fence?
Oprah: Tell me Raven, what makes you think your not African American?
Raven: Trivago.
Because SHE was not born in Africa.....
Yes, I understand what she was saying. I don't agree with it, but I get it. I'm sure she is tired of labels because she wants to be an individual, known as herself, not known as that black girl, or that lesbian, or probably even that cosby kid. She's probably trying to avoid the stress faced when dealing with the negative prejudice she probably gets or expects to get from everywhere. She's completely entitled to her individuality, I just say don't let the stereotypes others put on you distract you from identifying that as a part of that is within yourself. (be proud in other words)
It's not "You're black, why aren't you playing basket ball or eating fried chicken", it's "I'm also black and I have blue hair". Don't let others put the labels on you, you define the labels for yourself. If a person wants to seriously apply stereotypes to you, saying how you fit or don't fit, that's their drama, just tell them that: ("Those are your ideas, this is who I am")
I have a friend that refuses to eat Fried Chicken (Unless it is chicken strips, unless it is buffalo wings, unless it has barbeque sauce on it... the point is, this guy loves fried chicken too), he says he hates it. Me and the rest of my buddies know the only reason he is doing it is to reject stereotypes. Look, I can give the history to the origin of Fried Chicken and Watermelon stereotypes with black people, but at the end of the day, it really doesn't matter because almost everyone loves the taste of Watermelon and/or Fried Chicken, it is a silly stereotype! Similar things with Asians and rice, almost everyone eats rice! (I know there is an asterisk in there, but the point is the same, its a silly stereotype)
I get what she's saying...I'm first generation canadian and I don't go around saying "I'm Scottish-Canadian". I was born here, my ancestors were born there.
Raven knew it!!! Girl I love you
I don't think she was saying she's not "black" I think she was saying that she is not a "label" she's just an American like a white person is just an "American" they don't call white people "Caucasian American" right??
ikr, people are acting like she said she hates where she comes from, she just doesn't want to be labeled. I dont like being called black because my skin is not black, if they didnt call indian people indian, what would their name be for their skin?
African American is when your parents or grandparents are from Africa and you're from America. 😑
But many of them don't even have grandparents from Africa. Many of them have had parents in America for more than 3 generations.
but they say everyone is african american, just just looks. I dont know anyone from africa in my family. my great grandfather who passed at 102 was from syria but thats all I know about my relatives who arent in jamaica.
NO problem with what she said. She never said she wasn't black. I find an insult to called African-American. I am an American with African ancestors that were born IN AFRICA. What do you called a white person that was born in Africa?
I love Raven, she’s is a lovely person and a pristine example of someone who honors truth and being authentic. She’s not a sheep that follows over leading her authentic life!
Whereas Oprah is a blowhard who bully’s people into following her Oprah guilts, intimidates, and shames people into accepting her BS as truth.
Look at Raven standing up to Oprah. I’m an American, a colorless person, with her roots in Louisiana, she has lots of things running through her veins. Raven doesn’t label herself, she is an American!🇺🇸
Raven you never disappoint, thank you for having the courage to be yourself! 💜🙏🏻
well she wasn't born in Africa she was born in America, she shouldn't have to be referred to as African.
She simply doesn't want to be labeled I hate when ppl assume or label me as something I am not I am sure everyone can relate one way or another.
she stated "I AM PROUD TO BE WHO I AM AND WHAT I AM " I think if she was really proud of who she is and what she is she would be proud of being an African American lesbian that's my opinion.
I think she said it because she isn't from Africa, so she isn't technically and "African American" she has some type of African descent, but she herself isn't. It's the same as Mexicans, they don't call them selves "Mexican american" if they aren't from Mexico, they are Hispanic, and if they ask what descent they say Mexico. (Or somewhere else if they aren't Mexican) that's what I think she meant by that.
You don't make any sense. If you're ancestors were Mexican but you were born in America, you're Mexican-American.
+Avril Tinubu yeah but I think what bothers Raven is that you dont see the white people doing that. "Oh im European-American" "Im Irish-American". They just say "Im American" or "Im white". Its like if you're not white you automatically have to add "Mexican" "African" or "Asian" infront because people want know where you're "REALLY" from. A lot of white people dont know their background, they just see themselves as white or American. Most of them believe they're the true Americans. And they really are seen as the true Americans. People that aren't from the US instantly picture a white person when they hear "American", but thats understandble considering the majority are whites, and we all know why that is. Raven im guessing just wants to feel American enough as the whites feel.
She's saying she's not from Africa. She's right, I don't get called Irish American. Maybe she just wants to be American. I would have asked if she wants the label black to see what she'd say.
Lol I love it! I do the same thing. I dont fill check white, caucasion, or mixed anymore. I pencil in American.
Sounds like something Morgan Freeman would say...can't argue with M.F.
I'm sure she knows she is black.. She just doesn't want to be separated from all Americans
No other country in the world hyphenates their citizens. It’s a way for politicians to create division. Well said, we are all Americans. No hyphens needed.
yup! I was born here and so were my ancestors from hundreds of years ago! I have never been to Africa and don't plan on it. I would rather not be associated with a culture I know nothing of so BLACK American not African American thanks!
She was born in America, so she's American. If you're born in Africa, then get citizenship in America you're African - American. She's not saying she's not black, just that she wants to be called what she is, an American.
White people come from all over. My ancestors are from France and Ireland, I don't get called a French - Irish - American, I'm just American. It seems wrong to call someone who was born in America something other than American.
What about a Mexican anchor babies being born in America and getting free citizenship for their parents LMFAO or how about Obama the Kenyan conartist
what What about them? Born in America=American how is that hard to understand? If you seriously believe that Obama is from Kenya you're dumb af, try not watching Fox News, and I'll no longer be responding to you're ignorant comments. Have a nice day :)
vamperus you don't have to respond asstard you just have to listen, most of Obama's childhood was spent in another country and even your founding fathers aren't American from how you define it and also what about all the kids born on US military bases in other countries?
I was born here in America and I'm African so than what am I Bc I am an American
Omg this is so relevant
I totally agree with her, I was born in Louisiana that makes me an American.My mom and dad,was born in Louisiana as well. grandparent was bi- rachiel and Native American great- grandparents,great great was born in Louisiana as well. How does that make us African. I dont understand why she would get any slack from anyone by saying she's not African Americans.I I was born in African ,I would have no problem with it.I I have really good friends from Africa that I love dearly. Raven stand your ground.
She just does not want to be labeled, shes human.
Oprah tried to gaslight her into changing her answer and fails, you love to see it
I get what she's saying.. She doesn't want to be defined by her race
I think Raven was trying to say that race is an white social construct of all people of color.
I DO have a problem with labeling of any kind, must we all run around with a sign on our chest? I realized some time ago, that we seem to have been educated as children, that this form of identification is necessary. It seems to be so difficult to accept each other....and all I can think of to do about it is just take care of my personal corner of the world. It would seem to be another never-ending story.
The whole world is Africa but its divided in continents states is a song ...a very beautiful song you may enjoy listening to by a group ..One of my favorites Black Uhuru while I am simply listening to your words and viewpoint still loving you as we all do MIss Raven🙂
things should be labelled, hazardous materials should be labelled, people shouldn't.
African American is an inconsistent term denoting a generic continent goes to continue in the colonial over generalization of a giant diverse population. There are huge differences in people from Egypt, Mozambique, and Morocco. As there are between Icelanders, Scots, and Greeks. Whites are never referred to as European Americans (a quagmire for white South Africans). It doesn't take an anthropologist to see that Raven is mixed at some point in her recent family history and she says she's American. I think the American race of biracial mixing is most appropriate since we've been calling ourselves the melting pot for the last 100 years
I think this is the first time I have actually agreed with Raven... Good on her for having the courage to stand up. Ignore the trolls cause they're coming...
Good for Raven! Such an intelligent statement
She's not saying no label, she's saying she prefers to identify herself and not be labeled by mainstream words. To truly be African American by definition you would be born in Africa and immigrated to America. Otherwise you would be American with African roots. She wants to blend, after all, America is "labeled" "Melting Pot".
Good for here. Just like Morgan freeman said stop calling me black and I’ll stop calling you white
Black people from England are not called Afro-English, they are called English, those from France are called French, even Belgians are called Belgians. Why in America are they still called African Americans even if their ancestors are not from Africa?
Yeah she's an American. I'm not a Polish American.
Intelligent conversation rocks!😱
That would make Oprah uncomfortable
She's a gay, African--------------------------American, WOMAN. Wow, life sucks ass for some people.
Well, you don't say "im African Japanese" or "White Japanese" you just say, "I'm Japanese".. It's just Americans who are oddly obsessed with race, which has NOTHING to do with nationality.
Im Latino, but I also learned recently that "Latino" isnt a race because Latin America is a REGION that can carry many different races. Thats the only time you should say (optional) "white/black/asian/or Native to that region" if you're following up with a region/content, not your nationality..
Same here in Germany...if you come from the southern countries (Arab, Africa) and own a german passport they call u a german with migration background
And they do not feel bad about it...funny the started doing this after 2001
She’s not African American.But she wants reparations 🙄
Why did I just watch this it's so stupid everyone has a bias, makes a big deal over small things big people did, and then purposely misinterprets things to cause havoc... It's a wonderful day in the neighborhood.
There was some blow up on "black twitter" lmfao
Raven, you go girl!
I would have said to Oprah “Is that a threat?”
I totally understand her and where she’s coming from. She’s born and raised here yea she understands she’s black but she’s an American she was raised here. She’s not wanting to jump on the race ban wagon it’s time for people to move on and live their lives as Americans no matter what color you are. You born and raised here you r American. Everybody wanting to grab their roots from ancestors from way down the blood line and to me we all have roots else where if we really looked into it. We all probably have different race in our blood line. No matter who you are. That does nothing for the life you know and lived all your life. I don’t get deep into that like some people. I was born and raised here in the United States I know where my roots r to me my roots r where I was born and raised my parents grandparents great grandparents uncles aunts cousins and siblings that’s my roots. That’s all that matters to me I don’t give a rats ass where my roots started a 100 yrs ago
She knew what she was saying and ib fronylt of whom. Girl's nuts!
What Raven said I agree with, but wasn't politcally correct which is why opera responded the way she did.
What do you mean?
The fact that she is gay kind of ruins my childhood
HAHAHA!!!
Shawn Savage this girl need to go back to school learn something she's so stupid so dumb
all the races born in United States of america are american, native american indians European american or African american Hispanic and Latino Americans or other
black american does not exist
white american does not exist
originally Americans does not exist
America were not originally black" people or white people
if you don't know where you're from you'll have a hard time saying where you're going.
you can't know where you're going until you know where you've been.
if you don't know where you're came from you will never know where you re going.
never forget the past.
all European Americans come from Europe and African-Americans come from Africa
america is Indians homeland.
makes me laugh when 'white' people or 'black claim to be 'born in America'. if a dog is born in a stable, that doesnt make it a horse!....
Kalifa Makoma You want to talk about stupid...you are stupid...LOL!
I live in America...I was born in America!!! I am an American. I am a white woman. I am damn well blessed and proud!
patrick gola
LMAO!!! STFU!
patrick gola
Why are you talking about anyone going anywhere? She just wants to be known as an American...we can all see her race, just as you can see mine. But our race is not who we are. I am very proud to be white, but I never think about my race, unless someone brings it up. I am proud to be American and I am always reminded of that, each day. As for Native Americans, they need not worry about going anywhere. America is their home first...no one has forgotten that. We can not be blamed for what those before us have done to anyone...that was in the past...move on!
Raven's honesty is just awesome!!!
Question, on the USA a person of color is called Áfrican American. So if an Áfrican American travels to África, how do you call them??? And the people of África are called Áfrican Áfrican????
Working on a series that pokes fun at labels and stereotypes, I've decided that the world will try to label you and put you in categories enough, people shouldn't do it to themselves. I understand wanting to belong to a group but everyone is different and shouldn't limit themselves to preconceived notions based on appearance or preferences.
It her opinion. And I have to respect that.
We don’t call white Americans: European Americans and why do we call native Americans- native Americans?
People kill me when they say I'm an American no Europeans bought use over here and called use American. Now I'm native and black not American
isn't that true though? ... my parents were born in Kenya, i consider them African American because they have dual citizenship..but i was born in america, my heritage is African but my citizenship is american...if i went to Africa (and i have) they call me an American
I'm guessing she's saying that were all Americans no matter our color nor race. We should be treated as equal. (Whites, Blacks, Asians, Chinese's, Puerto Ricans, Latinos, Mexicans = America)
Reginald Williams to bad that is so far from the truth ,,,sounds good tho cause we should
Oprah Oprah Oprah when are you going away ?
actually if she takes a look at her background culture she would truly understand where she comes from its really relevant to know this kinda stuff
Is it though? Im gonna say you can do just fine by not looking back but forward. What do you do with such knowledge? You say "wow, thats quite interesting... Oh well... Lets get back to my life then"?
if we all originate from Africa anyway I suppose I'm African English....
we dont. we all orginate from ancient europe
She's right. She's American. Just like I'm not Norwegian-American...black people aren't African-American unless they were born Africa.
Im a maori in nz, KiwiLand. My great great great grandfather was chinese. My great grandfathers were irish, scottish and Maori. I dont identify as a cHiNesE iRiSh ScoTtiSh Danish MaoRi. Too much of a f*ckn mouthful, m8. i identify as a kiwi. I dont see how what she said was any bit 'contraversial'. Its just fact.
Is that is how she is feels, the. She should be entitled to claim it !
now I haven't seen the full vid with Oprah, so I could easily have misinterpreted this, but I think the point here is national ties. In the clip shown, she never says she doesn't want to be labeled as black; she isn't denying her skin color/family history/culture or anything. Raven says she'd prefer to be called American instead of African-American.
This makes complete sense. I've always been confused by the persistence of this label.
Like if you are a first generation Irish immigrant, it makes sense to call yourself Irish-American. If your family has been here 7 generations? not so much. She is denying a deep personal/political/whatever connection to the continent of Africa and any countries therein.
She is American. She is black. Why stretch that to African-American? to be more politically correct? To imply her skin color without outright saying it? That seems ridiculous.
Good for her, most people who are black dont have there origins from Africa. Can we get over the needless Victorian times labeling stuff
I understand what she's saying. The way she said it came off wrong and kind of awkward. I consider myself American because I am American. I am also a black american. However I don't like the African tied to it because I do not adopt any cultures or heritage from Africa. It seems so offensive to people but it's true.
I understand what she's saying. She identifies more with being an average American, rather than African American. Putting a different label on her differentiates her from the everyone else into a sect. She feels part of a bigger national sect.
are you saying African Americans are not American?
lordblazer
No. Shes categorized differently to other Americans due to her race. She doesn't feel any different to non African Americans. Not a race issue, more a nationalistic issue.
I feel similar as an indian born n bred in London.
African American just sounds better.
American! Right on
But she explained her statement in the same interview.
There so much discrimination because of labels to move past racism and hate I believe we have to get past labels we are all people of this world instead of trying to separate people by labeling them as American or African-American or what so ever may be the case gotta realize we are all apart of this world
If we're getting rid of the word "gay" then how are all the call of duty kids going to insult their competitors. :( Frowny face irl.
I don't care what her sexuality or her race is but her hair and makeup is hella on point.
Very smart lady
thank you raven you're not african american, you're not from africa. Lol and us africans don't like it when americans refer to themselves as african
Are we not all American. Africa isn't a country or a nationality. I am an American since 1987. Deal!
you go raven! why put labels on people!why box us into an a category or group. she s a great looking american lady and happy in her life, that should be enough label.
She should have said shes black.
I understand what she was trying to say and Black people are highly oversensitive.
i do
AWE, IM SOOOOO sorry these hollywood people actually believe this!
Why can’t she say that she is probably sick and tired of the conversation about the Color of her skin she was born in America that is it. I don’t say I’m Scotish/Irish Australian. My roots go back to Scotland and Ireland and I don’t say that. I say I am Australian
No.....She is not an African American. Where is Africa America located anyway?