At last, some recognition for the boats that started leausure cruising. Loads of boats 50 plus years old, well insulated and with all mod-cons. Well done you for daring to mention these wonderful boats.
Currently own 2 Yoghurt Pots, both narrowbeam, because of their practicality for what we need. Steerable in reverse, great power to weight ratio, light enough to tow to different waters, low/simple maintenance, no rust, low fees and licences, capable of handling a wide range of waters, absolutely love them...
A good thing about a GRP boat is you can take them across the channel to France or further North in good weather and cruise Europe. Ireland is at your footstep as well as many ocean ports in England. They are more sea worthy than a steel narrow boat and have lots more freeboard so you won't get swamped from the wake of a large ship passing you. Narrow boats are near and dear to my heart from watching many cruising videos but I have lived a life of fishing from GRP and fiberglass epoxy covered wooden boats I have built. Also plain wood boats crossing oceans and from age six going out and commercial fishing with my parents. Catamarans for sailing and mono hulls for cruising/fishing are all in my history. I am getting ready to build probably my last large boat with a sail rig and diesel engine from plywood with a fiberglass skin. Something I can cruise in the Mediterranean along the Israel coast and over to Cyprus and beyond about fifty feet long. I stay away from outboard engines with gasoline because they are fire hazards. Also stay away from boats not built with epoxy, Vinyl ester resin is a highly flammable construction medium, not so long ago a scuba dive boat in California built from Vinyl ester resin caught fire and was engulfed in flames in seconds killing many dozens of people who were asleep. Only a few crew members survived who happened to be on deck while their many many clients were below deck sleeping their final sleep. The boat burned to the water line. A vinyl ester resin built boat is not something to consider. BTW, you are the reason I want to purchase a narrow boat for cruising in England. I started watching your videos and I want a vacation boat in England because the 40 + degree heat in the summer in Israel is too hot. In winter the mountains of the Galilee where I now live is very comfortable with only occasional snow and only a few days with - degree temperatures. Summers cruising in England and sailing the Mediterranean would suit me just fine.
@Project_Servotopia - Ooh! There's more than one example of people who march to a different drum having built little "islands" with bottles lashed together to build floating tiny houses on. I remember reading about one gentleman who had built himself a good sized floating home complete with little gardens - can't remember what country he is in, somewhere in the western hemisphere I believe.
I live on a 26ft viking 26 and I love her. She's cosy and has everything I need. I did live on a 50ft narrowboat but due to breakdown of relationship I moved off and onto Cosmo.
Bought a GRP today to live aboard. Fully rebuilt from a shell. New everything including all woodwork. Fully insulated with 2.5mm and 50mm insulation board. shower, heating, hot water, electrics, solar, cooker etc all new.... £5k. A lot of boat for the fraction of a NB. Would we have preffered a NB...hmmmmm maybe and who knows if in the future we will. After watching so many vlogs about NB's and most appeared to have issues we opted for a GRP, but not one which did not have age/condition on it's side which would lead to more expense. GRP's are a cheap way to get on the cut.......to some they may not have the kudos of a NB, but so what. I see in the comments people calling GRP's not a proper boat and GRP owners regarded as 2nd class as well as being called joining the dark side...Oh the snobbery and small mindedness of the UK is alive and well on the canals!!! Basicly a floating caravan/motorhome to which you can add the things needed to live aboard anytime of the year.
Had a tiny Viking 20 on the Lancaster Canal for 3 yrs and thoroughly loved it. No way we could afford a narrow boat and disappointed with the snobbery from time to time. Well done for showing the how most people start on the canals and rivers.
Yep I got snobbery from my canal neighbours when I had a fiberglass boat on the canal. It was so bad that when it rained a lot one year. Our section of the canal flooded and my 28ft Norman seamaster ended up half on the canal bank. When the water receded my boat rolled sideways into the canal and sank. My neighbours lived on their boat and did nothing to help but had a lot to say about it after. 20 years and 3 boats later I still get it at the harbour. Lol
@@geem4973 do you mean how much is least to pay for a good boat. Its all in the engine. My boat cost 850 uk pounds with siezed outboard engine. Its a 16ft fiberglass fishing boat with small cabin. I put a brand new 25hp 4 stroke efi tohatsu outboard because I don't trust a second hand engine as the sea conditions can change quick here. The total price was less than 5000 pound. If I got the same boat with a good engine I'd pay 2500 ish pounds. The real expenses come afterwards. Like maintenance on boat and trailer. Mooring and insurance. Radio etc etc. You can get a brand new sib and outboard for less than 1500 pounds. Boats and boating is so much fun.
After having served in the US Coast Guard and having repaired numerous fiberglass boats, as well as owned my own, boats are a huge black hole that you continuously pour your money into. Those type of boats can have huge amounts of hidden structural and water damage that will cost thousands of dollars to repair, if caught in time before it has to be scrapped. I could tell you actual first hand stories that would make your hair stand on end about the problems with fiberglass boats. I wouldn't mind sharing some with you if interested.
I'm of the impression that if you want a boat you seriously intend to live on and don't expect to be constantly polishing and worrying, steel is really the only way to go. With a little bit of practice, care, and tools, you could reasonably patch it, and re-patch it yourself without negatively affecting the structural integrity of the whole boat. Also, steel can take a hit much better than fiberglass. Sure, maybe it's expensive for a new-build, but depending on what your needs are, it might be worth it. You can also find a hell of a lot of boat on the used market if you are willing to think outside the box a bit! Of course I'm speaking generally. However, even talking specifically about canal boats, steel, for living aboard, definitely still seems like the way to go. But that's just me. I'd definitely be interested in your opinion, given your experience.
Sounds like my house, never a month goes by without something costing money and needing repair, the worst weeds on planet earth springing up, the tree lopping, the lawn mowing and painting.
I don't agree. Until recently we had a fibre glass cruiser for more than 40 years .Had interior woodwork refitted once in that time and Hull painted once.We were very sad to sell it.Used it most weekends and holidays, 1st with children and then grandchildren .
There is, without a doubt, something that happens once you step foot on a boat. It’s another world where all the stress of regular living seems to vanish. I can’t wait to move back to England and buy my own narrowboat. Great vlog. Thanks.
I'm from Annapolis Maryland and we are swamped by boats of all types and sizes. Several things to remember, Boat stands for Break Out Another Thousand. The are the three days a boat owner is happy, the day they buy, the day they sell, and the day when everything works flawlessly. A thing about fiberglass at least in America is in the 70s they change the resin recipe so boats will get blisters. It is repairable but time consuming. Also stay away from ethanol blends as it will attack fiberglass tanks and hoses. Loving the videos, the rain was so calming.
A yoghurt pot was my only way in to boating as we only had £5k to spend. Try getting a narrowboat for that! We have had three years of great fun in our pot. I lived on her 9 months a year with my dog. We've now bought a large steel cruiser and live in France on the water. Everyone has to start somewhere so please don't be so critical and snobby about yoghurt pot owners. We all enjoy the same things :)
He did not call them yoghurt pots. If you bother to listen he says they are often derogatory called yoghurt pots. Which is a bit different to how you interpret it.
I started in my early twenties and, with a mate, bought a Glastron 160 for water skiing. Then a number of hire boat NB experiences with the kids and with mates before getting a Viking 26 with a different mate. That was 10 years ago and I'm now retired to 66' of NB loveliness and splendid self-isolation. Thanks for the memories.
We had a Burland 26 GRP (with a 10hp Marine engine) between 2000 and 2016, when we finally got around to buying a steel narrowboat. We cruised most of the canals of central England, mostly in one week instalments, in all weathers and at all times of year. We relied on a paraffin lamp for heat and our main source of lighting (we were a lot more resilient in those days!) I think that we just got used to the condensation and occasional drip. We didn’t need winding holes; she turned on a sixpence. The small size kept costs down (as most are calculated on boat length). The only major headache was finding garages near to the cut to buy petrol. We had a load of fun and learned a lot about canals and boating in general. I would recommend a GRP cruisers to anyone who wants to ‘dip a toe in the water’.
I used to own a fiberglass boat, built in 1965. 33' long with an 11' beam and 3 1/2' draft, diesel propulsion. It required nearly $5K in repair when I bought it, much of which I did myself (I have experience with that) and it still nearly ruined me financially, especially when the insurance rates tripled. I wound up selling it on at a huge loss. A boat is, for many, a hole in the water, surrounded by fiberglass, into which money is thrown. If it weren't for the monumental bills, it was a lovely getaway though. I very much enjoyed my time out on the water.
N°1 Biggest pain in the arse is having to take the canopy down to go under bridges and tunnels, especially when it's raining (and there are a LOT of bridges on the cut). These things are called "river cruisers" for a good reason. Other downsides include outboard motors can be a pain, V bunks are uncomfortable, you will always be aware of damaging the GRP (especially when getting bumped by big metal boats), and there is really not a lot of space in the cabins. However just for messing about on the water as a day/weekend boat when it's nice and sunny they are good fun.
A point not mentioned , depreciation. Your car will only be worth a fraction of what you paid say five years previously. Your boat , by contrast, will still be worth a high proportion of the purchase price. So overall the cost of ownership is not too onerous. However , there is a but and that is you will almost certainly spend more on maintenance and updates. We bought a Viking 26 a couple of years ago have spent out on quite a few updates, including, hood frame, TV, fridge, soft furnishings,interior lights etc, etc. I'm sure that should we sell, we'd get our purchase price back but not the updates. Has it been worth it? YES!
I love your vlogs like this one. That TV reporter background shines through when you're interviewing someone and it just feels like a mini-documentary. Well, in all fairness I guess ALL your videos have that feel... but especially in these where you've got a guest. And thanks for introducing us from across the pond to the different types of boats found on canals and waterways!
GREAT VLOG SIR ! Yogurt Pots indeed ! Lets put it in perspective... I am a narrowboat Gongoozler, even worse, I haven't seen a Narrowboat for 10 years as I live in the USA ! BUT ,,, I spent 6 years in Paris and hired thru 'Locaboats' in France ! What is this you may ask (Sorry if copying your style and cadence of speech, I will refrain) ! SO whilst steel Narrowboats are THE thing in the UK, Fiberglass cruisers are the thing in Europe. As you show, some are Narrowboat width. Plastic is jeered. We hired our first Canal holiday in France on the Sonne and a canal. It was wider than a Narrowboat and had a fly bridge, 6 berths and of a Dutch style called Penichette. The locks in France are free and have lock keepers that operate them, a tip of 1-2 Euros happily accepted. Wonderful layout etc, The problem was and is that 1 week is around GRP 2,200 for hire and second hand they seem to increase in price! A 10 year old occasional use boat as you showed looks a good investment vs a GB Pound 100,000 plus narrowboat. I had a Porsche Boxster S as a Mid life crisis car in Texas vs a 911, many laughed, but it fitted my needs and filled my gap at 30% of the price used. I am rethinking my Narrowboat strategy thanks to this video, a newish yogurt pot may fill 90% of the afloat canal cruising need at 35% of a similarly aged Narrowboat ?
Back in the 70s we had a small grp cruiser on the Thames. Took it through the Regent's Canal and up the rivers Stort and Lee, the Thames from Lechlade to Tower Bridge plus the Wey and Kennet.
I remember being on a 70ft narrowboat, with 12 of us on board, heading towards a tight bend on the outside of which someone had moored a plastic cruiser. The wind caught our boat, and the young lady at the tiller was having trouble gaining control. I had visions of bits of plastic floating in the water, with the former occupants swimming towards the bank. Luckily eleven people fending with their legs managed to avert disaster.
We love our 16 foot cruiser, bought and repaired for £850 5 years ago. about 200 miles a year on the Chesterfield, Trent, Fosdyke and Witham. Hoping for fair weather at christmas for a quiet days cruising.
Good day David. Great to show what the GRP boats are actually like. We have seen so many of them as you have cruised the waterways so I appreciate the look.
Wow, my friend Martin Grahame-Dunn! How are you? I have been enjoying these Cruising The Cut videos, never guessing I would see someone I know!!!! How great. Martin is a fantastic photographer and instructor! My wife and I are thinking about renting a long boat for vacation one day. We will have to look you up! Great job on your blog David Johns! I always enjoy them!!!
My boat is the Viking 23 “See Bass” at the very beginning of this vlog which I have rebuilt from a shell. I previously owned a Viking 26 centre cockpit bought from new back in 88 but was forced to sell in about 94 due to work commitments
As I sit on my fiberglass boat in Seattle watching your video I have a couple of comments. I think open water and salt water GRP boats need less maintenance (less money) due to needing to maintain the paint on steel boats or they rust in no time. You still have to worry about condensation, but that goes for any boat. If I am leaving my boat alone for any length of time I leave a porthole open. This has worked for keeping any condensation build up. And the weather in Seattle is warm enough that freezing water pipes has never been an issue. I spent several weeks on a narrowboat during the summer of 2019, and the collection GRP boats I saw made me believe that GRP boats go to the canals to die.
In addition to “CruisingThe Cut” I follow “Minimalist”, “Narrowboat Experience”, “Foxes afloat”, and sometimes “House Country Gent”. Each provides a unique perspective and style and I love them all. Yours is the most all encompassing of all. You cover so many different aspects of life on the canals. Not just Cruising or mooring but boat repair, painting, upkeep, cost analysis, boat shows, different types of boats etc. Maybe it’s your broadcasting background but you definitely have a polished style and really are doing a great service for promoting canal life and the whole economic industry which definitely seems to be flourishing. Keep up the great work David! You really are an asset, and are in fact doing a great public service. Your knowledgeable insights balanced with humble and self deprecating humor always puts a smile on my face. Thank you for your blogs and never doubt what you contribute is important. Cheers from Florida!👍😁 P. S. I’m definitely a fan and by the way, doing a special Christmas gift vlog to help fellow Narrowboaters who are trade boats that depend of sales for income was very classy and shows that you really support and care about your Narrowboat community. Well done! Even though a heads up would have been appreciated from Jo and Michael who had to struggle to keep up with increased sales of Jo’s Canal maps! Hehe😂. Proof of the power of your influence! 🙏🏻
I spent 3 months aboard a plastic cruiser back in 2003, and enjoyed it . . . it was called Catcho, a GRP Viking 26 stern cockpit cruiser with a 9.9 Yamaha outboard. I took it from Billing Marina on the Nene, through the Nene arm, up the GU to Warwick, down the Oxford, onto the Thames, then finally back to Oundle on the Nene, where I sold it for very nearly the same price I bought it for! Worked out well, and the only damage done to the boat was a fixed fender knocked off by a narrowboat in a wide lock - that wouldn't have happened if I'd got him to go in first. Overall, the only times I felt in any danger was when the odd hire boat in a hurry came past . . . :-)
I bought my little 19ft Dawncraft Dandy a couple of years ago. I think I paid about £2.5K for it, and since then I've spent a few hundred on some engine work, a solar charging system, general repairs and a few modern luxuries like the TV, stereo and diesel heating. For those of us who still live on the land but want an escape, it's a great option. There's no way I could afford a house AND a narrowboat! It's very low maintenance, there's nothing much to go rusty so you're not messing about lifting it out of the water and blacking the hull every 3 years, and being only 19ft long it doesn't cost the earth in CRT licensing and marina fees. Wouldn't want to live on it, but there's everything you need for a few days' adventure. Probably about the cheapest way of getting on the water!
Completely off-topic but as I'm not on social media I thought I'd ask here. Love the channel and perhaps because the algorithm notes that, I've been recommended a significant number of new narrowboat vlogger channels recently. Have you noticed narrowboating is becoming more popular and a concomitant increase in the number of boats on canals, and is the profile of the typical narrowboater changing to a younger and dare I say trendier demographic? This is not in any way meant as an implied criticism, merely an observation/question. Thanks and keep the vlogs coming!
I actually live on a 30ft grp river boat. Mine came insulated, and with a diesel heater is lovely and warm in the winter. Its also very stable, even in the recent storm there was very little movement.
Interesting video. I did about 4 months canal cruising continuously with a Viking 23 in the early part 2003, and enjoyed it a great deal - I bought the boat specifically for the purpose and actually made about £200 profit when I sold it. I previously had GRP yachts, and lived very comfortably aboard a 23ft Virgo voyager for over a year, wintering in marinas with electric supply to keep me toasty and the boat clear of condensation and dampness. Works pretty well . . .
I have a Viking 26 centre cockpit like the one in the video. (1989). Warm and snug in both cabins. I also have central heating. But a short burst on a fan heater soon warms up the cabin too. Galley, shower & toilet, TV, Wi-Fi, Fridge, 6 berth, 20hp Mercury outboard. All sorts of accessories, everything you need, especially a double bookshelf crammed full 🤓. Those rotted ends on the shelf & rear cabin boards are almost certainly due to ingress from the windows and very easily cured by applying sealant around the frames. I once spent 3 months solid on mine travelling from North Wales (Llangollen Canal) to Camden Lock in London and back. 800 miles, 500 locks, mostly solo, occasionally with my sons and a friend joining me for a few days at a time when they could get away from work. Fantastic experience. Like your interviewee said, it’s also idyllic when just moored up in the marina, such a chilled out life. 👍😎
We have a share on a (wider) syndicate GRP on the Norfolk Broads. We’ve had weeks on her in November and February (including during storm Ciara last Feb) and have been very cosy. Having access to shore power helps. On the Broads there are certain Broads Authority moorings that have electric posts, so you don’t have to stay in a marina over winter to get electric supply.
1st boat was a 1976 26' Burland with18hp Mercury in 1986 cost 2k from Long Eaton. Got married, honeymooned up T&M then Llangollen and finally craned out on the Bridgewater and moored at Galgate on Lancaster, all in that year. Had a pump-out fitted at Nantwich and new rubbing strakes fitted at Galgate. Spent around 1k in total as new canopy needed. Weekend and hols for 2 yrs and then sold for 6.2k and bought narrowboats ever since Sold up in 2019 as had enough after 40 yrs cruising/hiring. Now back to just hiring (Broads) but don't miss canal as bought a lock-keepers house 20 yrs ago - love it. Good luck with the boating and fibre-glass is a good place to start and I see the Burland (although name changed) still on the Lancy. PS - You don't need the expensive Morris oil in your lump David - B&Q Mineral at £10 /5l is the better option :-)
I have a small fiberglass *narrowboat* I'm hopefully refurbishing. Currently all on halt during lockdown and the cold weather... but if I get to a reasonable progress with it, I'll let you know how it is (cold/damp or dry/fun! ;) ).
Enjoyed your vlog and I’m glad you showed them in a positive light. Our first boat was a Viking 26 centre cockpit and it was a lovely boat in excellent condition, but we ended up selling it after only a year and getting a narrowboat due to all the negativity we got from narrowboaters, we were really made to feel like second class citizens, which saddened us as at the time it was all we could actually afford. A great boat though and I’d definitely recommend it for anyone thinking of taking the plunge.
I've had a few Grp boats over the years on the river Thames - One Narrowbeam Atlanta 24 and then onto a wider Birchwood 25. I can't see the appeal of one of the canals, especially with the risk of damage by narrowboats, but they make perfect sense on the rivers and beyond though. With boating on the Thames its width not length you need with the limited mooring spaces and Narrowboats in GRP circles are often referred to as "Slugs" or "Ditch Crawlers".
Excellent review. As a medical professional I can't help but feel for the owner of Forget Me Knot. Seems like there is a lot to his story and I feel sad for his situation. I wish him well.
A thought about those GRP boats. Most seem to be wide transom planing hulls, which are designed for big outboards and lifting out of the water (planing) at higher speeds. Narrowboats (and canoes) are displacement hulls, with narrow, lifting sterns creating oval shaped waterlines. They are designed for efficiency at low speeds. Flat, wide transoms create eddies at low speeds and are dragged back, wasting fuel. Therefore, they are not optimized for canal cruising. Displacement craft have a theoretical top speed of v=1.34X(square root of) length on the water. Length in feet, speed in knots. So a 60' narrowboat has a top speed of 10.37 knots, no more. So anyone buying a planing hull for the canals is wasting energy with that wide transom.
Very interesting observation. However would suggest none on the science ever comes into the equation. A would be owner is projecting themselves aboard attired in jaunty nautical kit cruising along, g&t in hand, collecting admiring glances from ducks and similar and, with luck, members of the opposite gender.
Steel Narrow boats rust and require painting/blacking to avoid problems GRP Boats get scratched, chipped and cracked and require repair to avoid problems. Old GRP can be prone to osmosis and that can be expensive or terminal
Started watching your entertaining videos a couple of years ago and I am afraid it sucked me in but had only managed to watch some of your first year. The Covid lockdown has allowed me to "binge" watch and I can now say I have seen all 236 episodes. I must say all that water makes an Australian rather envious as we have a distinct lack of it for this sort of activity - even less over in the west where I live which is predominantly desert. Thanks again for a fascinating peek into a wonderful lifestyle. Cheers Cameron, Ocean Reef, Western Australia.
In addition to a qualified boat surveyor checking for GRP osmosis, some of those older craft are going to require a complete refit to eliminate leaks, condensation problems and to include contemporary equipment. Quite a project!
Very interesting Dave. I often wondered what those boats were like. An excellent vessel for getting away from it all and as you said pretty reasonable prices... ...from experience if it smells like dry rot give it a pass... We had an old wooden cruiser MV Sea poppy that was a bit uh moldy...my dad would spend a bit of each summer mixing up his concoction of fibreglass resin mixed with formaldehyde , drilling lots of little holes in the 'infected ' area and filling them with the resin. Her hull was laid in 1928 so she came by the rot quite honestly. The best summers of my life were spent on that old boat! She foundered dockside when the shore power failed and the five [5] 'house style' sump pumps,not bilge pumps, that were required to keep her afloat froze in the sub arctic conditions . you could always tell when another through hull fitting had failed by the five geysers of water gushing from various portholes....time for another patch!
This post reminded me of the aussie man and his shed to get away from the other half😊👍 but that said it was interesting...we have river cruising in SA .. the mighty Murray with all types and sizes of craft...I have done a holiday on a mock paddlesteamer and loved the river....the funniest experience was comming into our mooring only to find it taken by a small pleasure craft ...a blast of our horn/the sight of our very large boat ....caused a state of pandemonium/panic with on shore crew scrambling to move said craft out of the way! The other memory was pelicans lifting off and gliding at water level in the fog ..magical...thank you for introducing me to narrow boating/canal -river cruising. Stay well,safe and sane in comming festive season
You would go bonkers not hearing that chug-chug sound of your diesel engine. There is tranquillity that wood brings to me that plastic and fibreglass cannot offer. A plus would be having windows that would allow you to see the ebb and flow of the day.
what a great vlog im so glad your doing these little gems i had two little cruisers a teal and a buckingham 252 but had to sell dew to my wife failing health manly she struggled getting on and of but miss being on the water so much
I love the cornucopia of info you put into these videos, David. There's more variety on those canals than I expected. I'll have to put a canal boat vacation on my bucket list!
Well David...if you get one of these boats, you'll have to enlarge the narrowboat basin at the canal-side house near Stoke on Trent. And then I imagine you'll need a large garage as well...for the camper van.
Great video. In the '70s my grandparents had a succession of 26' (ish) cabin cruisers on the Lancaster Canal. These had something like a 9' beam so were quite wide on the inside. I spent many holidays being allowed to do the driving (?) of these as well as jumping off and on to moor up or do the Glasson Dock run. As engines were converted car ones, we often all had to walk with fuel cans to nearby petrol stations maybe half a mile from the canal all along the way. As you say, compared to narrowboats the GRP interiors are light and have a more 'open space' feel inside. Only really suitable for warm months sleeping on board though. They suffered awfully from mildew and mould over winter. I used to love being on them.
Great vlog as usual, how you dream up these interesting off beat topics meeting interesting people along the way is amazing (still love Jules and the fuel boat the best though), keep it up and keep well.
What I find refreshing in European boats are the small outboards that power the cruisers. Here in the US, the boat manufacturers wouldn't dream of anything less than 60-90 hp on such a boat.
The U.S. customer is quite different, and not content to cruise at 4mph, even wanting to occasionally tow skiers or tubes at higher speeds. You can't do that with a narrowboat, nor would you want to, as the U.S. cruisers are much more maneuverable and can turn much more quickly. As David has pointed out, a narrowboat pivots on its center, but an outboard cruiser turns at the transom, where the engine is entirely pivoted. This is because the thrust on the outboard is vectored and the "rudder" is actually part of the motor - a better setup for maneuverability. The narrowboat has no vectored thrust from its main drive prop, which is why some add independent bow thrusters.
Cruised the canals of the Northwest and Midlands from 1976 to 1993 in a 22ft Callumcraft GRP cruiser. A huge amount of fun. A bit of a pain in a cross-wind, however.
At last, some recognition for the boats that started leausure cruising. Loads of boats 50 plus years old, well insulated and with all mod-cons. Well done you for daring to mention these wonderful boats.
My first boat is nearly 50 years old, and has outlasted many steel narrowboats that have long since rusted away.
@@MarkWalker-on2fe Give the name of a narrowboat that rusted jn 50 years? Smh... Rusted away? So they dissolved? Daft!
Currently own 2 Yoghurt Pots, both narrowbeam, because of their practicality for what we need. Steerable in reverse, great power to weight ratio, light enough to tow to different waters, low/simple maintenance, no rust, low fees and licences, capable of handling a wide range of waters, absolutely love them...
And we can turn them around anywhere on the canal, not have to wait for a winding hole.
Absolutely Nick. We have done inland coastal, crossed Loch Ness and can spin them round in most places on the canals...what's not to love :)
A good thing about a GRP boat is you can take them across the channel to France or further North in good weather and cruise Europe. Ireland is at your footstep as well as many ocean ports in England. They are more sea worthy than a steel narrow boat and have lots more freeboard so you won't get swamped from the wake of a large ship passing you. Narrow boats are near and dear to my heart from watching many cruising videos but I have lived a life of fishing from GRP and fiberglass epoxy covered wooden boats I have built. Also plain wood boats crossing oceans and from age six going out and commercial fishing with my parents. Catamarans for sailing and mono hulls for cruising/fishing are all in my history. I am getting ready to build probably my last large boat with a sail rig and diesel engine from plywood with a fiberglass skin. Something I can cruise in the Mediterranean along the Israel coast and over to Cyprus and beyond about fifty feet long. I stay away from outboard engines with gasoline because they are fire hazards. Also stay away from boats not built with epoxy, Vinyl ester resin is a highly flammable construction medium, not so long ago a scuba dive boat in California built from Vinyl ester resin caught fire and was engulfed in flames in seconds killing many dozens of people who were asleep. Only a few crew members survived who happened to be on deck while their many many clients were below deck sleeping their final sleep. The boat burned to the water line. A vinyl ester resin built boat is not something to consider. BTW, you are the reason I want to purchase a narrow boat for cruising in England. I started watching your videos and I want a vacation boat in England because the 40 + degree heat in the summer in Israel is too hot. In winter the mountains of the Galilee where I now live is very comfortable with only occasional snow and only a few days with - degree temperatures. Summers cruising in England and sailing the Mediterranean would suit me just fine.
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9:34 "A bad day on the water beats a good day in the office every time," is what my old skipper used to tell me (and I believe him!)
At 85 years of age I will not start canal boating, but for some reason I love the info you keep giving me. Thank you. Tony from OZ.
If you ever do own a second boat, we're going to have to start calling you "Admiral"
Regardless of your budget " if your Floating your'e Boating" that's the main thing, just love being on the water, great video as always!
That's good to know, because about all my budget allows for right now is a bunch of 2-liter plastic bottles held together by duct tape. :)
@Project_Servotopia - Ooh! There's more than one example of people who march to a different drum having built little "islands" with bottles lashed together to build floating tiny houses on.
I remember reading about one gentleman who had built himself a good sized floating home complete with little gardens - can't remember what country he is in, somewhere in the western hemisphere I believe.
My first boat was a Viking 22 which was a great boat and got me into inland boating
I live on a 26ft viking 26 and I love her. She's cosy and has everything I need. I did live on a 50ft narrowboat but due to breakdown of relationship I moved off and onto Cosmo.
What about the winter though? Is it chilly and damp?
I don’t know about Cosmo but my Viking is fully lined with radiator type bubble wrap foil insulation which helps
Bought a GRP today to live aboard. Fully rebuilt from a shell. New everything including all woodwork. Fully insulated with 2.5mm and 50mm insulation board. shower, heating, hot water, electrics, solar, cooker etc all new.... £5k.
A lot of boat for the fraction of a NB. Would we have preffered a NB...hmmmmm maybe and who knows if in the future we will.
After watching so many vlogs about NB's and most appeared to have issues we opted for a GRP, but not one which did not have age/condition on it's side which would lead to more expense.
GRP's are a cheap way to get on the cut.......to some they may not have the kudos of a NB, but so what. I see in the comments people calling GRP's not a proper boat and GRP owners regarded as 2nd class as well as being called joining the dark side...Oh the snobbery and small mindedness of the UK is alive and well on the canals!!!
Basicly a floating caravan/motorhome to which you can add the things needed to live aboard anytime of the year.
Had a tiny Viking 20 on the Lancaster Canal for 3 yrs and thoroughly loved it. No way we could afford a narrow boat and disappointed with the snobbery from time to time. Well done for showing the how most people start on the canals and rivers.
What’s the price roughly of a decent one ,thanks
Yep I got snobbery from my canal neighbours when I had a fiberglass boat on the canal. It was so bad that when it rained a lot one year. Our section of the canal flooded and my 28ft Norman seamaster ended up half on the canal bank. When the water receded my boat rolled sideways into the canal and sank. My neighbours lived on their boat and did nothing to help but had a lot to say about it after. 20 years and 3 boats later I still get it at the harbour. Lol
@@geem4973 do you mean how much is least to pay for a good boat. Its all in the engine. My boat cost 850 uk pounds with siezed outboard engine. Its a 16ft fiberglass fishing boat with small cabin. I put a brand new 25hp 4 stroke efi tohatsu outboard because I don't trust a second hand engine as the sea conditions can change quick here. The total price was less than 5000 pound. If I got the same boat with a good engine I'd pay 2500 ish pounds. The real expenses come afterwards. Like maintenance on boat and trailer. Mooring and insurance. Radio etc etc. You can get a brand new sib and outboard for less than 1500 pounds. Boats and boating is so much fun.
The title of this vlog gave me quite the chuckle
Me too. I remember a jingle but I can't remember what it was for!
No luxary at all
@@db8444 yeah I remember it too but what did it refer to??
Sirius Cybernetics (H2G2) "Share and Enjoy"
It's basically his garden shed. The misses is happy he's out and he's happy she's not around.
The sound of rain on the roof of a caravan is one of the cosiest sounds in the world, and I think a boat might be even better.
It is indeed - try a narrowboat with a multifuel stove in the winter - the epitome of 'cosy!
After having served in the US Coast Guard and having repaired numerous fiberglass boats, as well as owned my own, boats are a huge black hole that you continuously pour your money into. Those type of boats can have huge amounts of hidden structural and water damage that will cost thousands of dollars to repair, if caught in time before it has to be scrapped. I could tell you actual first hand stories that would make your hair stand on end about the problems with fiberglass boats. I wouldn't mind sharing some with you if interested.
I'm of the impression that if you want a boat you seriously intend to live on and don't expect to be constantly polishing and worrying, steel is really the only way to go. With a little bit of practice, care, and tools, you could reasonably patch it, and re-patch it yourself without negatively affecting the structural integrity of the whole boat. Also, steel can take a hit much better than fiberglass. Sure, maybe it's expensive for a new-build, but depending on what your needs are, it might be worth it. You can also find a hell of a lot of boat on the used market if you are willing to think outside the box a bit! Of course I'm speaking generally. However, even talking specifically about canal boats, steel, for living aboard, definitely still seems like the way to go. But that's just me. I'd definitely be interested in your opinion, given your experience.
Sounds like my house, never a month goes by without something costing money and needing repair, the worst weeds on planet earth springing up, the tree lopping, the lawn mowing and painting.
We are on inland waterways and in the UK. Things a radically different here.
I don't agree. Until recently we had a fibre glass cruiser for more than 40 years .Had interior woodwork refitted once in that time and Hull painted once.We were very sad to sell it.Used it most weekends and holidays, 1st with children and then grandchildren .
My fiberglass boat is 30 years old, the original gelcoat has had no repairs and the structure is a good as the day it was new.
We had a 30 foot cruiser for over 18 years. Water leaks, yes, Condensation issues, never. Sailed it on Lake Erie. Best sleeping I ever had!
There is, without a doubt, something that happens once you step foot on a boat. It’s another world where all the stress of regular living seems to vanish. I can’t wait to move back to England and buy my own narrowboat. Great vlog. Thanks.
I'm from Annapolis Maryland and we are swamped by boats of all types and sizes. Several things to remember, Boat stands for Break Out Another Thousand. The are the three days a boat owner is happy, the day they buy, the day they sell, and the day when everything works flawlessly. A thing about fiberglass at least in America is in the 70s they change the resin recipe so boats will get blisters. It is repairable but time consuming. Also stay away from ethanol blends as it will attack fiberglass tanks and hoses. Loving the videos, the rain was so calming.
Really enjoying this smattering of general interest, canal-related videos!
Thank you David I like looking at other kinds of boats!
A yoghurt pot was my only way in to boating as we only had £5k to spend. Try getting a narrowboat for that! We have had three years of great fun in our pot. I lived on her 9 months a year with my dog. We've now bought a large steel cruiser and live in France on the water. Everyone has to start somewhere so please don't be so critical and snobby about yoghurt pot owners. We all enjoy the same things :)
He did not call them yoghurt pots. If you bother to listen he says they are often derogatory called yoghurt pots. Which is a bit different to how you interpret it.
Eh? I wasn't critical or snobby AT ALL about GRP cruisers or their owners. Did you mis the entire section where I wanted to buy one?
@@CruisingTheCut nooo! I didn't take it that way at all don't worry :)
I started in my early twenties and, with a mate, bought a Glastron 160 for water skiing. Then a number of hire boat NB experiences with the kids and with mates before getting a Viking 26 with a different mate. That was 10 years ago and I'm now retired to 66' of NB loveliness and splendid self-isolation. Thanks for the memories.
We had a Burland 26 GRP (with a 10hp Marine engine) between 2000 and 2016, when we finally got around to buying a steel narrowboat. We cruised most of the canals of central England, mostly in one week instalments, in all weathers and at all times of year. We relied on a paraffin lamp for heat and our main source of lighting (we were a lot more resilient in those days!) I think that we just got used to the condensation and occasional drip. We didn’t need winding holes; she turned on a sixpence. The small size kept costs down (as most are calculated on boat length). The only major headache was finding garages near to the cut to buy petrol. We had a load of fun and learned a lot about canals and boating in general. I would recommend a GRP cruisers to anyone who wants to ‘dip a toe in the water’.
I used to own a fiberglass boat, built in 1965. 33' long with an 11' beam and 3 1/2' draft, diesel propulsion. It required nearly $5K in repair when I bought it, much of which I did myself (I have experience with that) and it still nearly ruined me financially, especially when the insurance rates tripled. I wound up selling it on at a huge loss. A boat is, for many, a hole in the water, surrounded by fiberglass, into which money is thrown. If it weren't for the monumental bills, it was a lovely getaway though. I very much enjoyed my time out on the water.
N°1 Biggest pain in the arse is having to take the canopy down to go under bridges and tunnels, especially when it's raining (and there are a LOT of bridges on the cut). These things are called "river cruisers" for a good reason.
Other downsides include outboard motors can be a pain, V bunks are uncomfortable, you will always be aware of damaging the GRP (especially when getting bumped by big metal boats), and there is really not a lot of space in the cabins.
However just for messing about on the water as a day/weekend boat when it's nice and sunny they are good fun.
Can’t wait until you review a sailboat! Love your videos. Best wishes. Stay safe.
Ha! No, I don't like sailing.
A point not mentioned , depreciation. Your car will only be worth a fraction of what you paid say five years previously. Your boat , by contrast, will still be worth a high proportion of the purchase price. So overall the cost of ownership is not too onerous. However , there is a but and that is you will almost certainly spend more on maintenance and updates. We bought a Viking 26 a couple of years ago have spent out on quite a few updates, including, hood frame, TV, fridge, soft furnishings,interior lights etc, etc. I'm sure that should we sell, we'd get our purchase price back but not the updates. Has it been worth it? YES!
I love your vlogs like this one. That TV reporter background shines through when you're interviewing someone and it just feels like a mini-documentary. Well, in all fairness I guess ALL your videos have that feel... but especially in these where you've got a guest. And thanks for introducing us from across the pond to the different types of boats found on canals and waterways!
GREAT VLOG SIR ! Yogurt Pots indeed ! Lets put it in perspective...
I am a narrowboat Gongoozler, even worse, I haven't seen a Narrowboat for 10 years as I live in the USA ! BUT ,,, I spent 6 years in Paris and hired thru 'Locaboats' in France ! What is this you may ask (Sorry if copying your style and cadence of speech, I will refrain) !
SO whilst steel Narrowboats are THE thing in the UK, Fiberglass cruisers are the thing in Europe. As you show, some are Narrowboat width. Plastic is jeered.
We hired our first Canal holiday in France on the Sonne and a canal. It was wider than a Narrowboat and had a fly bridge, 6 berths and of a Dutch style called Penichette. The locks in France are free and have lock keepers that operate them, a tip of 1-2 Euros happily accepted. Wonderful layout etc, The problem was and is that 1 week is around GRP 2,200 for hire and second hand they seem to increase in price!
A 10 year old occasional use boat as you showed looks a good investment vs a GB Pound 100,000 plus narrowboat. I had a Porsche Boxster S as a Mid life crisis car in Texas vs a 911, many laughed, but it fitted my needs and filled my gap at 30% of the price used. I am rethinking my Narrowboat strategy thanks to this video, a newish yogurt pot may fill 90% of the afloat canal cruising need at 35% of a similarly aged Narrowboat ?
Back in the 70s we had a small grp cruiser on the Thames.
Took it through the Regent's Canal and up the rivers Stort and Lee, the Thames from Lechlade to Tower Bridge plus the Wey and Kennet.
I remember being on a 70ft narrowboat, with 12 of us on board, heading towards a tight bend on the outside of which someone had moored a plastic cruiser. The wind caught our boat, and the young lady at the tiller was having trouble gaining control. I had visions of bits of plastic floating in the water, with the former occupants swimming towards the bank. Luckily eleven people fending with their legs managed to avert disaster.
Oh my!
John! Is that you?I think I was that young lady!!
We love our 16 foot cruiser, bought and repaired for £850 5 years ago. about 200 miles a year on the Chesterfield, Trent, Fosdyke and Witham. Hoping for fair weather at christmas for a quiet days cruising.
I've seen a lot of these in your videos.. Often wondered about them. Thank you for the inside scoop on them! Excellent as always. Cheers!
Good day David. Great to show what the GRP boats are actually like. We have seen so many of them as you have cruised the waterways so I appreciate the look.
HA. I'm still laughing at the Hitchhiker's Guide reference. Very Good!
Wow, my friend Martin Grahame-Dunn! How are you? I have been enjoying these Cruising The Cut videos, never guessing I would see someone I know!!!! How great. Martin is a fantastic photographer and instructor! My wife and I are thinking about renting a long boat for vacation one day. We will have to look you up! Great job on your blog David Johns! I always enjoy them!!!
OMG, the subtitle at the beginning of this vid (i.e., "your plastic pal...") is hysterically funny! Great tease, and great production sir! Cheers.
Fabulous place to take a read of a new paperback, with the pitter patter of the outside falling rain.
My boat is the Viking 23 “See Bass” at the very beginning of this vlog which I have rebuilt from a shell. I previously owned a Viking 26 centre cockpit bought from new back in 88 but was forced to sell in about 94 due to work commitments
Splendid isolation, I love that❤️. It is his own little club house, I think we could all use one of those😊
Love the Hitch hikers guide reference....should be one in every episode 😉👍
I am the Sandwich Maker..... Strinder, will you sharpen my knife for perfectly normal beast slices?
As I sit on my fiberglass boat in Seattle watching your video I have a couple of comments. I think open water and salt water GRP boats need less maintenance (less money) due to needing to maintain the paint on steel boats or they rust in no time. You still have to worry about condensation, but that goes for any boat. If I am leaving my boat alone for any length of time I leave a porthole open. This has worked for keeping any condensation build up. And the weather in Seattle is warm enough that freezing water pipes has never been an issue.
I spent several weeks on a narrowboat during the summer of 2019, and the collection GRP boats I saw made me believe that GRP boats go to the canals to die.
Cruisers rock.
Worth taking a look at some Broads cruisers as well.
In addition to “CruisingThe Cut” I follow “Minimalist”, “Narrowboat Experience”, “Foxes afloat”, and sometimes “House Country Gent”. Each provides a unique perspective and style and I love them all. Yours is the most all encompassing of all. You cover so many different aspects of life on the canals. Not just Cruising or mooring but boat repair, painting, upkeep, cost analysis, boat shows, different types of boats etc. Maybe it’s your broadcasting background but you definitely have a polished style and really are doing a great service for promoting canal life and the whole economic industry which definitely seems to be flourishing. Keep up the great work David! You really are an asset, and are in fact doing a great public service. Your knowledgeable insights balanced with humble and self deprecating humor always puts a smile on my face. Thank you for your blogs and never doubt what you contribute is important. Cheers from Florida!👍😁 P. S. I’m definitely a fan and by the way, doing a special Christmas gift vlog to help fellow Narrowboaters who are trade boats that depend of sales for income was very classy and shows that you really support and care about your Narrowboat community. Well done! Even though a heads up would have been appreciated from Jo and Michael who had to struggle to keep up with increased sales of Jo’s Canal maps! Hehe😂. Proof of the power of your influence! 🙏🏻
Ok, so I've not actually watched the video yet (saving it for this evening) but I absolutely love the HHGTG title!!!
Also...since when did Sirius Cybernetics Corporation start building boats???
I spent 3 months aboard a plastic cruiser back in 2003, and enjoyed it . . . it was called Catcho, a GRP Viking 26 stern cockpit cruiser with a 9.9 Yamaha outboard.
I took it from Billing Marina on the Nene, through the Nene arm, up the GU to Warwick, down the Oxford, onto the Thames, then finally back to Oundle on the Nene, where I sold it for very nearly the same price I bought it for!
Worked out well, and the only damage done to the boat was a fixed fender knocked off by a narrowboat in a wide lock - that wouldn't have happened if I'd got him to go in first. Overall, the only times I felt in any danger was when the odd hire boat in a hurry came past . . . :-)
I bought my little 19ft Dawncraft Dandy a couple of years ago. I think I paid about £2.5K for it, and since then I've spent a few hundred on some engine work, a solar charging system, general repairs and a few modern luxuries like the TV, stereo and diesel heating. For those of us who still live on the land but want an escape, it's a great option. There's no way I could afford a house AND a narrowboat! It's very low maintenance, there's nothing much to go rusty so you're not messing about lifting it out of the water and blacking the hull every 3 years, and being only 19ft long it doesn't cost the earth in CRT licensing and marina fees. Wouldn't want to live on it, but there's everything you need for a few days' adventure. Probably about the cheapest way of getting on the water!
Goid forvyou
Wilderness trailboat gets my vote over this.
I've been hoping that you might make this vlog! I've always been wanting to ask this question in the comments.
Completely off-topic but as I'm not on social media I thought I'd ask here. Love the channel and perhaps because the algorithm notes that, I've been recommended a significant number of new narrowboat vlogger channels recently. Have you noticed narrowboating is becoming more popular and a concomitant increase in the number of boats on canals, and is the profile of the typical narrowboater changing to a younger and dare I say trendier demographic? This is not in any way meant as an implied criticism, merely an observation/question. Thanks and keep the vlogs coming!
The number of registered narrowboats goes up fairly slowly but it does not seem to be de rigueur to start a vlog when you buy one!
I actually live on a 30ft grp river boat. Mine came insulated, and with a diesel heater is lovely and warm in the winter. Its also very stable, even in the recent storm there was very little movement.
Which kind of boat do u have ?
Interesting video. I did about 4 months canal cruising continuously with a Viking 23 in the early part 2003, and enjoyed it a great deal - I bought the boat specifically for the purpose and actually made about £200 profit when I sold it. I previously had GRP yachts, and lived very comfortably aboard a 23ft Virgo voyager for over a year, wintering in marinas with electric supply to keep me toasty and the boat clear of condensation and dampness. Works pretty well . . .
I have a Viking 26 centre cockpit like the one in the video. (1989). Warm and snug in both cabins. I also have central heating. But a short burst on a fan heater soon warms up the cabin too. Galley, shower & toilet, TV, Wi-Fi, Fridge, 6 berth, 20hp Mercury outboard. All sorts of accessories, everything you need, especially a double bookshelf crammed full 🤓. Those rotted ends on the shelf & rear cabin boards are almost certainly due to ingress from the windows and very easily cured by applying sealant around the frames. I once spent 3 months solid on mine travelling from North Wales (Llangollen Canal) to Camden Lock in London and back. 800 miles, 500 locks, mostly solo, occasionally with my sons and a friend joining me for a few days at a time when they could get away from work. Fantastic experience. Like your interviewee said, it’s also idyllic when just moored up in the marina, such a chilled out life. 👍😎
I'm curious if you haul it out over winter to avoid ice problems?
Sounds great.
@@CruisingTheCut How problem matic is a good condition boat over the years?. Is there such a thing as a good boat for life?
We have a share on a (wider) syndicate GRP on the Norfolk Broads. We’ve had weeks on her in November and February (including during storm Ciara last Feb) and have been very cosy. Having access to shore power helps. On the Broads there are certain Broads Authority moorings that have electric posts, so you don’t have to stay in a marina over winter to get electric supply.
Sir! Sir! I spotted the Hitch-Hiker's Guide reference in the thumbnail, sir!
1st boat was a 1976 26' Burland with18hp Mercury in 1986 cost 2k from Long Eaton. Got married, honeymooned up T&M then Llangollen and finally craned out on the Bridgewater and moored at Galgate on Lancaster, all in that year. Had a pump-out fitted at Nantwich and new rubbing strakes fitted at Galgate. Spent around 1k in total as new canopy needed. Weekend and hols for 2 yrs and then sold for 6.2k and bought narrowboats ever since Sold up in 2019 as had enough after 40 yrs cruising/hiring. Now back to just hiring (Broads) but don't miss canal as bought a lock-keepers house 20 yrs ago - love it. Good luck with the boating and fibre-glass is a good place to start and I see the Burland (although name changed) still on the Lancy.
PS - You don't need the expensive Morris oil in your lump David - B&Q Mineral at £10 /5l is the better option :-)
I too had a Burland 26, marvelous little boat!.
The Hitchiker's reference is what drew me to this video. For those that don't know, it is what the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation refer to robots as.
I have a small fiberglass *narrowboat* I'm hopefully refurbishing. Currently all on halt during lockdown and the cold weather... but if I get to a reasonable progress with it, I'll let you know how it is (cold/damp or dry/fun! ;) ).
When he is talking about his boat his eyes light up. Yay.
"Yoghurt pots". I like that. We used to refer to GRP cruisers as "Tupperware" in my younger days.
My bucket list overruns
Love the "Hitchhiker's Guide" reference in the RUclips graphic. Greetings from the other side of the world! Love the channel and your presentations.
I think you made the correct decision not to get that GRP boat. Your boat is the way to go.
Oh, I was never intending to sell the narrowboat. The GRP would have been an additional, project boat. The narrowboat is my home!
Enjoyed your vlog and I’m glad you showed them in a positive light. Our first boat was a Viking 26 centre cockpit and it was a lovely boat in excellent condition, but we ended up selling it after only a year and getting a narrowboat due to all the negativity we got from narrowboaters, we were really made to feel like second class citizens, which saddened us as at the time it was all we could actually afford. A great boat though and I’d definitely recommend it for anyone thinking of taking the plunge.
I've had a few Grp boats over the years on the river Thames - One Narrowbeam Atlanta 24 and then onto a wider Birchwood 25. I can't see the appeal of one of the canals, especially with the risk of damage by narrowboats, but they make perfect sense on the rivers and beyond though.
With boating on the Thames its width not length you need with the limited mooring spaces and Narrowboats in GRP circles are often referred to as "Slugs" or "Ditch Crawlers".
Hooray for this good to look round other types of boats for a change.
Pleasant guy you interviewed. You even got a round of cheese sarnies.
Excellent review. As a medical professional I can't help but feel for the owner of Forget Me Knot. Seems like there is a lot to his story and I feel sad for his situation. I wish him well.
A thought about those GRP boats. Most seem to be wide transom planing hulls, which are designed for big outboards and lifting out of the water (planing) at higher speeds. Narrowboats (and canoes) are displacement hulls, with narrow, lifting sterns creating oval shaped waterlines. They are designed for efficiency at low speeds. Flat, wide transoms create eddies at low speeds and are dragged back, wasting fuel. Therefore, they are not optimized for canal cruising. Displacement craft have a theoretical top speed of v=1.34X(square root of) length on the water. Length in feet, speed in knots. So a 60' narrowboat has a top speed of 10.37 knots, no more. So anyone buying a planing hull for the canals is wasting energy with that wide transom.
Very interesting observation. However would suggest none on the science ever comes into the equation.
A would be owner is projecting themselves aboard attired in jaunty nautical kit cruising along, g&t in hand, collecting admiring glances from ducks and similar and, with luck, members of the opposite gender.
Wonderful to see the difference sides of the life on the canals especially in the usual great, polite and homely style
Steel Narrow boats rust and require painting/blacking to avoid problems
GRP Boats get scratched, chipped and cracked and require repair to avoid problems. Old GRP can be prone to osmosis and that can be expensive or terminal
And then there are aluminium boats 8--)
Started watching your entertaining videos a couple of years ago and I am afraid it sucked me in but had only managed to watch some of your first year. The Covid lockdown has allowed me to "binge" watch and I can now say I have seen all 236 episodes. I must say all that water makes an Australian rather envious as we have a distinct lack of it for this sort of activity - even less over in the west where I live which is predominantly desert. Thanks again for a fascinating peek into a wonderful lifestyle. Cheers Cameron, Ocean Reef, Western Australia.
Interesting. I am sure the main advantage of the cruisers is the ease of maneuverability.
And no appreciable wake at 5 or 6 mph due to how light she is ;)
In addition to a qualified boat surveyor checking for GRP osmosis, some of those older craft are going to require a complete refit to eliminate leaks, condensation problems and to include contemporary equipment. Quite a project!
More expensive to own a "yogurt pot" in the states. Conversely, it's cheaper to own a cabin. Land is still relatively cheap.
Very interesting Dave.
I often wondered what those boats were like. An excellent vessel for getting away from it all and as you said pretty reasonable prices...
...from experience if it smells like dry rot give it a pass... We had an old wooden cruiser MV Sea poppy that was a bit uh moldy...my dad would spend a bit of each summer mixing up his concoction of fibreglass resin mixed with formaldehyde , drilling lots of little holes in the 'infected ' area and filling them with the resin.
Her hull was laid in 1928 so she came by the rot quite honestly. The best summers of my life were spent on that old boat! She foundered dockside when the shore power failed and the five [5] 'house style' sump pumps,not bilge pumps, that were required to keep her afloat froze in the sub arctic conditions . you could always tell when another through hull fitting had failed by the five geysers of water gushing from various portholes....time for another patch!
Here in the Netherlands it’s more common to see steel cruisers, you have the sturdiness of a narrowboat with the campervan feeling..
You are clearly a big Hitchhikers Guide fan. Share and enjoy share and enjoy.
wait, why, should i stick my head in a pig?...
I love the production quality of David's videos. I also like boats and vans. Win win really.
This post reminded me of the aussie man and his shed to get away from the other half😊👍 but that said it was interesting...we have river cruising in SA .. the mighty Murray with all types and sizes of craft...I have done a holiday on a mock paddlesteamer and loved the river....the funniest experience was comming into our mooring only to find it taken by a small pleasure craft ...a blast of our horn/the sight of our very large boat ....caused a state of pandemonium/panic with on shore crew scrambling to move said craft out of the way! The other memory was pelicans lifting off and gliding at water level in the fog ..magical...thank you for introducing me to narrow boating/canal -river cruising. Stay well,safe and sane in comming festive season
Oophs name missing ....incomming phone call...Jan Adelaide
You would go bonkers not hearing that chug-chug sound of your diesel engine. There is tranquillity that wood brings to me that plastic and fibreglass cannot offer. A plus would be having windows that would allow you to see the ebb and flow of the day.
Thankyou Dave for a view into a different part of canal life in the UK. I hope you stay safe and well mate, cheers.
Thanks 👍
what a great vlog im so glad your doing these little gems i had two little cruisers a teal and a buckingham 252 but had to sell dew to my wife failing health manly she struggled getting on and of but miss being on the water so much
"Please enjoy your trip through this door".. Thanks another great vlog.. HHGTTG reference jumped out at me...
Would these clear the tunnels? ,she asked, having no intention or capacity to ever own one
I love the cornucopia of info you put into these videos, David. There's more variety on those canals than I expected.
I'll have to put a canal boat vacation on my bucket list!
The Wind in the Willows ,
Great material you are putting out for those of us interested in a live aboard. Really liked last weeks show about the boats in Wales. Good stuff!
Glad you like them!
Big ups for the HHGG reference in the title.
H2G2
Well David...if you get one of these boats, you'll have to enlarge the narrowboat basin at the canal-side house near Stoke on Trent. And then I imagine you'll need a large garage as well...for the camper van.
can easily insulate a fibrglass boat..
Great video. In the '70s my grandparents had a succession of 26' (ish) cabin cruisers on the Lancaster Canal. These had something like a 9' beam so were quite wide on the inside. I spent many holidays being allowed to do the driving (?) of these as well as jumping off and on to moor up or do the Glasson Dock run. As engines were converted car ones, we often all had to walk with fuel cans to nearby petrol stations maybe half a mile from the canal all along the way. As you say, compared to narrowboats the GRP interiors are light and have a more 'open space' feel inside. Only really suitable for warm months sleeping on board though. They suffered awfully from mildew and mould over winter. I used to love being on them.
I love them all 😄even rowing boats
Love the Hitchhiker’s reference there
hope you don't get lured, your boat is much more "Wind in the Willows" nice and solid and remember the fire in winter that is unbeatable
Great vlog as usual, how you dream up these interesting off beat topics meeting interesting people along the way is amazing (still love Jules and the fuel boat the best though), keep it up and keep well.
Wonder how many people get the Hitch hiker guide reference - say hi to Marvin.....
he wont enjoy it though...
Thanks David. I had wondered about these boats since seeing them in your vlog.
What I find refreshing in European boats are the small outboards that power the cruisers. Here in the US, the boat manufacturers wouldn't dream of anything less than 60-90 hp on such a boat.
The canal speed limit is 4mph and 2-3 is more usual so anything more is unnecessary
The U.S. customer is quite different, and not content to cruise at 4mph, even wanting to occasionally tow skiers or tubes at higher speeds. You can't do that with a narrowboat, nor would you want to, as the U.S. cruisers are much more maneuverable and can turn much more quickly. As David has pointed out, a narrowboat pivots on its center, but an outboard cruiser turns at the transom, where the engine is entirely pivoted. This is because the thrust on the outboard is vectored and the "rudder" is actually part of the motor - a better setup for maneuverability. The narrowboat has no vectored thrust from its main drive prop, which is why some add independent bow thrusters.
4mph is the limit on canals so anything more is pointless.
My Honda 10hp ran almost silent all day and was Cheap to run.
Cruised the canals of the Northwest and Midlands from 1976 to 1993 in a 22ft Callumcraft GRP cruiser. A huge amount of fun. A bit of a pain in a cross-wind, however.