Leathercraft: Making Steel Rule Clicker Dies For Leather Wallets
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2018
- I am making wallet clicker dies in this film, and I am using some good manual bending tools to bend the steel rule die to shape. The bending jig was second-hand from Partwell Group, who also sell the steel rule cutting blades..I am using the Universal 60 degree 2 point rule.
www.partwell.com/
This is my second film on steel rule clicker die making and I am sharing all my latest findings to help you make very usable dies. I am band sawing out templates and then bending the rule die around them. The end result is very usable steel rule cutting dies for cutting out accurate repeatable leather shapes quickly..in this case wallet components. 
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“Why do I always take the hard way? I don’t know.” Neither do we, but we love watching you do it your way anyway, Harry! Keep on being yourself. The archetypal British ‘Man in Shed’
V isions sheds are awful, get a big workshop or garage
Boris Yoalkstein: in the UK, we like the word. We have extended it’s use way beyond the basic shed I expect you have in mind. We use it to describe anything from an open- fronted shelter to a huge well-constructed heated furnished structure. While the proper name for these rooms may be something else (garage, detached office, outbuildings etc, at times, we still affectionately refer to them as our sheds. The word ‘Shed’ has warm associations to us. Great inventions that have changed the world were begun in British sheds. (Or so we are led to believe) and many who try to re-use old broken cast-offs in their shed dream that one day they may be the next. It’s good to dream dreams; have a big vision. Even if it has to start in a shed.
V isions beautifully said my friend.
Yes, I feel the same. If I can't do it and it's practical to do so I will learn how to do it. Benefits are: The enjoyment of learning a new skill, and the enjoyment of doing it and saving money ! I have taught myself plastering, bricklaying, woodwork - alll to reasonable quality and have reaped the benefits over the years..
Harry, thanks for taking the time to show this - very useful information and a good demonstration. Yes, having someone else do something for you can be convenient, but there is a lot to be said about being self-sufficient. Keep up the good work, sir.
Your desire to learn new things and better yourself is so admirable. If money were no object I would definitely be right there with you!
Harry, you make complicated in a simple manners, thanks a lot. I start to follow you.
lol--"I just wanted to take the hard route!" So true for many of us! Thank you for de-mystifying this.
Just found this and I am so excited to find it! You are the best.
Great video. Very informative. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Awesome and very educational DYI video. Thank you so much.
I love see the bending mechine. Thankyou for sharing Sir
That was very interesting. Using a tool you made yourself is always a lot more satisfying than one you bought.
Very true Brendan, I will remind myself of that when it goes wrong!
Good Work Harry, I work for Partwell and have been in the diemaking industry for pushing 25 years! It's nice to see someone giving it a go.
Hello Sir, maybe need you an diemaker Operator, I'm from the Philippines and I work that position for almost 10 years. If you want a diemaker operator I am willing to work with your good company.. I Hope you read it Sir, Godbless and thanks..
Really enjoyed this, from someone starting off in leather craft, your videos are fascinating, informative and inspirational, thanks.
Thanks
Your hard way is our educational gift. Respect! BTW...good instructional technique.Thank you.
Thank you sir! Great detailed videos by the way!
P.S. It is not "the hard way" it is the way of a man that is interested in learning new things and in DOING things. Altogether a respectable and interesting undertaking.
thank you very much, it was very informative, i was searching for this for 1 year and just found it
Fantastic Video as always.. Great Information..
I don't know if I've ever heard of someone making their own dies. Good work.
Thank you! This is exactly what I needed to know.
Thanks Harry,it is a great video.
great job!!! loved it!
Brilliant! Thank you for sharing. 💜👍
Great video. I am going to have to give it a go.
Excellent way to diy!
More often than not, the "hard way" is also the "interesting way". Thank you for an interesting and informative video.
Thanks Lex
Todo una pistola Mr Harry, thankyou so much!!! from México.
Gracias
Harry, adding “ejection foam” inside and outside the die helps to pop out the cut pieces. Especially for small pieces of leather.
I've wondered about this process for so long and was going to attempt to do something on my own, but thanks to you, the thinking portion is done. My only wish, is that you would put details in the description. Like the brands and tools used, not that I'm going to find the same ones in the United States, but might make it easier for people to search. Added bonus, some of the smaller stuff you might get Amazon referrals. In any case, thanks. I'm so grateful for your sharing this information.
EXCELENTE TRABAJO. FELICITACIONES DESDE 🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷
Thanks for doing these videos. I was starting to think about getting some dies made, but I think I'll give making my own a swing!
Hi it is tricky...my logical side would probably now say get an expert or better still an expert with a cnc bender to do it, but it is fun learning.
@@harryrogers I have to give it a try. The metal worker in me is always up for a challenge 😊
Of course when I want to take the hard way to make something I came across one of Harry's videos. Don't worry Harry you're not alone. some of us want to do everything ourselves. Learning is half the fun. Hope all is well with you.
wow! the world is indeed a small place! howzit John?
@@bctruck As I've said before, great minds think alike.
Hello Harry, I just recently got into leather crafting and have been doing everything by hand. I found this video very enjoyable and informative. I was considering having some custom clicker dies made for some patterns I plan on using regularly, but after watching this video I would at least like to try the "hard way" at least once to have the appreciation for it and the pride in making one myself
Hi...if you do go for some commercial dies the S J West Press Knives are good. Rdgs Harry
I've watched your videos for years on my other channel - just seen you made 100k. Congratulations!!!
Thanks very much
I saved this video. Searching for those benders now. TY.
Well, of course Harry being Harry one wants to watch and learn. Thanks!
Thank you so much for your wisdom and information.❤. I noticed the press in another video and wondered what you did with it. Now I know. Ha ha. Thx
This is really impressive. Awesome work Harry!
Thanks Parker ....I think I have a long way to go! You are an inspiration to us all...loving your vlogs...Very well done. Rgds Harry
Hi Harry, I find your posts very interesting and enjoyable.
For cutting leather with my ruler dies or larger pattern embossing, for that matter, I have two heavy antique, threaded spindle, bookbinding presses, which works very well for me.
Hello Sir, I am posting my comments here, maybe if you want a diemaker operator. Thanks.
💡wow. There’s so much potential
You are my favourite bloger. Simple and easy.W.L. Ukraine.
Thanks.
Any video i can learn something from is a good video, Thx
must have a massive tooling budget. 5000 wallets later you break into profit line. Well done!
Enjoyed your video Thumbs up as well
Thanks
i am totally with you on taking the hard way and doing it yourself,
All the best,
Cliff
Pěkné video. Získal jsem dost informací.
very informative, thanks
Thank you for sharing.
Thank you for this video! ;-)
Making tools, and such, yourself isn't the hard way. It's the fun way.
I have a couple of cutters, very similar to what you made, that were used in the beer and soda industry, to cut the cardboard wrappers for 6 packs.
You massive bender! 😂 Mate...... phenomenal video. Has saved me god knows how many wasted days .... weeks... in trying to learn the same info on my own. Thank you! Legend!
I love it Harry keep up this stuff why should we pay people to do stuff when with a bit of thought we can do it ourselves .I also love the bargain searcher and budget way of doing things
AWESOME ! ! !
I want to do that
Harry..Awesome
Awesome!!!
I think the gap in the cutter edge is useful to extract the leather from the cutter.
I used to braze repair steel rule dies for heavy synthetic fabric (including the famous Eden Toy Paddington bears and Dr. Seuss Grinch toys). The dies were brazed no welded for easy parts replacement which works very, very well vs grinding and welding which is rough on the base steel. Brazing permits complex dies which can last for thousands of cuts in industrial use.
Our dies were not attached to base plates and were quite like cookie cutters.
Thanks, that sounds like a better approach than my welding attempt.
Thank you for sharing. What brand of press / machines are those?
Great fun
I'm wondering, would a 3-D printer printed block work well? I know some dies use acrylic as a base, and obviously some types of 3-D material *might* be useable. So, would a 3-D print be a good thing since you can make any shape you want with no cutting, machining, etc., and which materials would be good? Also, do you ever weld the ends like with a wire welder? Thanks Harry!
nice
Hi Harry, where do you get the steel ruler blades from.
Thank you
Hi Harry. Nice work on the dies, will certainly save a lot of time.
I don't if its technically wrong, but I was taught that those punches were Roper-Whitney or just Whitney punches, not Whitworth punches.
Hi Alex..Thanks for correcting me...yes Whitney not Whitworth...my mistake. Thanks again Harry
The hard way is what makes you , you .! Glad I found your channel , hopefully I'll be learning a few things from you .. I'm in the States do you know where I can get some of that metal ? I just can get over how easy you make things look ! Keep it going I love it ! Thanks for sharing you knowledge with us !
Perhaps Milawaukee Rule and Die, or Texas Custom rule and Die?
Harry Rogers thanks !
You provided us with much needed info on making home made cutting dies. Bless you for sharing that. Where did you buy the hole punch and bending tool? Thank you!
Thanks...Partwell Group sell the clicker die machines. Punch from Amazon.
HI there, I have contacted Partwell to see if they could supply me with a one meter of clicker for a very small dye I'd like to make for stamping out small leather pieces but they only sell 100 m rolls of it. Do you know of anywhere else I could buy a smaller piece than 100 m ? Thank you
Hi! Thanks for the video. I found it very useful. I just bought a clicker press and I want to make my own dies. Do you have links for the tools that you use to bend the metal sheets?
did you find where they sell that steel bender at?
When shops want to charge $40-$150 for a single die, and you need 10 dies, it is far cheaper to make your own. I just picked up a JA RIchards Multiform Bender and the die cutter tool back in September. I had to travel over 300 miles/480 km each way to get it. Guy was going to take them to the scrap yard if no one bought it. Cost $2,450 back in 1986 when he bought them. I also got a bunch of dies, which you can have a machine shop make for them.
I love this whole episode!!! Do you mind if I ask where you bought the Sabre bending machine/jig and all those different insets/bending-profiles?
Hi Partwell Group...on the Web.
Did u find the jig on their site? It's impossible bullshit. Doesn't exist. Fiction. They don't even have prices listed. Waste of time.
Thanks for this harry. These cost about £100 to buy!
The hard way = the fun way = the satisfying way = the easy way in the end.
Thanks for the great demonstration. Can you share any information on the forming jig that you have there? Manufacturer, cost, etc?
Hi..these manual steel rule die bending machines turn up in the second-hand market from time to time as shops put this work out to CNC specialists, or places close. To buy new from the likes of Helmold or Partwell Group they are obviously costly, but the latter does deal in some second hand. EBay is another possible, I got my notcher cutter there imported from the US at a very reasonable price using the global shipping programme which can make importing heavy items pretty cheap.
hello where do you buy this machine for bending the steel
Hi Harry, enjoyed watching you bending the Steel Rule Steel, and I had a thought, would you be able to make Spoon carving Knives from that stuff or would it be too flimsy?. Maybe a Gouge to put the groove in the bottom of Shrink Pots.Len.O
Len...the 2pt die is a bit thin at around 0.7mm but I think it might work if supported..and what a good idea for shrink pots..one could back a piece on a stick....a potential project there!
Love your videos Harry. Could you use clicker dies with a 6 tonne press? You did say 10 or 20 tonne (or was that “ton”?), but I as just wondering as I have a 6 tonne press.
Hi Yes a 6 ton press will work fine for smaller items...like wallet parts...(or larger items done with multiple passes.)
Please do list the makes and models of the to glorious machines you’re so ably using in your steel-rule die bending videos.
Hi ...that one was a Sabre I bought from Partwell, I have since sold it. It was a very good 2pt 3pt bending machine, built like a tank.
Wish you were near me so I visit and learn
Noce job Harry ! Would you mind telling me where you found the bender and attachment s? Thanks! Jason
Try EBay or Partwell Group
Do you happen to have a model number for the bending jig and accessories? I tried to find them on their website with no luck. Thanks so much. Awesome video!
It was from their used section of tools, I no longer own it...sorry.
Hi Harry, really missed your video's! If you do it yourself then its less expense and you are in control I guess. Question. Do you think you would need to weld the join? or you think it will be ok.
Hi Paul..I am thinking of TIG welding the join...another skill to learn. I have been posting films most weeks...hit that notification bell! Rgds Harry
Hi, if you can't get hold of the cutter, what is the best common tool to cut the steel rules? As i imagine a bench sheer might bend it?
Yes possibly....a ring bender works for 2pt rule up to a point.
@@harryrogers Thanks for the reply, ok, I didn't know the ring bender could cut as well, I will look into it!
@@pegelatrin Hi sorry if it's cutting then some aviation snips will cut 2pt rule, as will bull nose aviation snips. If its bending then a Pepe style ring bender works on 2pt rule for gentle curves to a limited extent....I have done a video on that.
do you prefer the steel rule or ring bender for this? I would love to know pro's and cons in each.
The large heavy steel rule bender is better, so much more power and weight than the small ring bender.
Hi, nice and informative videos. Just a question: what is the exact name of the steal rule as on their website there is a lots of types. Thanks
BHOLER 2PT UNIVERSAL EQUAL BEVEL.
where did you get your manual bending jig? Also what type of steel rule did you get? Links would be amazing!
Please see the comments and I do mention the supplier in the film...there is also another film on bending with links.
Hi Harry I enjoyed your videos, where can I buy the bending machine from the same one you were using please
Please see link in description
Hello you can contact me if you need a Diemaker operator, i work for this kind of job for almost 10 yrs. I'm from the Philippines.
Helli, Harry. What are the bending tools You are using?
Hi Its a manual Rule Bending Machine
Hello Harry, is it possible to use the same method for cutting shapes out of card, if so where can i get one made?
Probably...you need to have a chat with a steel rule die maker such as S J Press Knives in the UK or Milawaukee Steel Rule Die in the US
Whate can i buy the dy bending tool an what it called
Where can I buy it and how much this machine
Can u rivew you all tools and machines of die making
Where did you pick up the Sabre? Looking all over the net and the only benders I am finding are the auto benders. I can not find any manual benders like yours. Any help would be great. Thank you.
Ron in the UK keep an eye on Partwell Group.
@@harryrogers Thank you. Do you have a model # for that bender?
@@ronclark8992 no sorry
Great video, as always. What is the machine that you were using?
Please see the video description just below the title thanks.
@@harryrogers thanks for that! I checked the link and it looks like they've graduated to larger machines.
I remember this kind of job, when I was in Saudi. I love this kind of bending machine.. Just like my machine before
What is the thickness and width of the steel rule die you use ...thank you sir for your reply .
Please see the video description ...thanks.
Hello Roger, where do I buy this tool that you made the hole in the cutting steel?
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@@harryrogers muito obrigado. Rogers
I think you did exactly the right thing in making the die yourself, it means that you have complete control over what you get, the short blade problem is easily overcome by making the strip oversize, then cutting to length when it is folded up, the only problem I can see in your die is that the pins are in shear as it is made now, but if you saw off the wood level with the top edge of the blade the metal top load spreader plate will rest on that edge, the wood will still support the blade vertically , you can easily saw the excess of on your bandsaw. Good Luck ! Chris B.
Can you recommend anything to help sharpen them? I’ve noticed mine getting dull and harder to cut.
Hi I use a fine DMT diamond stone, but I think any fine sharpening stone or a knife steel would be good.
@@harryrogers thank you Harry!
About the laser cutter. I watch a lot of video's and there does seem to be a trend NOT to use laser cutters because of the burnt black edges. Also they are actually slower to cut leather then using a clicker die system.
its an economy of scale thing laser cutters are great for prototyping but once you have the prototype done and you want to batch them out you would be better moving across to a clicker die system
I use a laser to cut my leather. The severe burning is caused by people going too slow and trying to cut in one pass. The key is to go faster and do many passes. That way the laser vaporizes the material along its path without severely burning the surrounding material. There is still a darkened edge, but it burnished very quickly and nicely. Most of my stuff gets an edge coat dye anyway. If you are making only a dozen pieces or so per day, the laser is fine. If you want to make hundreds per day...get a clicker (I also have a 7 ton Tippman clicker press).
Thanks for the reply. But the Laser also has other advantages, because having a Laser means that you can cut a whole variety of different materials & projects, rather than just leather which the clicker dies do! So i guess, you have to think carefully about what you with it. What type of Laser do you have?
Hello! Could you tell me the exact name/type of that bending jig? I sadly can't find anything similar on the internet :( great vid and thank you
Hi it was an old Sabre from Partwell.
@@harryrogers thanks for the very quick response :)
Hello Sir, I'm from the Philippines.. Maybe if you want a diemaker operator I would like to applying for this position..
Hi Harry, may I ask you, how did you order the steel rule die, from them? I'm trying to contact but never get an answer from partwell, also I'd like to know if there's a minimum order?, Thank you Harry.
I phoned...I think min order is in place but they will tell you.
@@harryrogers Many thanks Harry, you are helping me a lot to develop my product throught your videos, new carbon fibre shin guards, the interior (stick on) is special foam, so I need to buil a custom die cutter for that, it's been really hard to get any supplier here in the UK. Thanks again.
Does the bevels affect the dimensions of the cut or finished product?
Hi, to all practical uses, no not really. For ultra precision, like medical gaskets then maybe!
Hi, I don't have the tools to make a cutter my self, so do you know anyone or anywhere I can get a couple made up.? Preferably in the UK.
S J West Press Knives