"Vegan Diet Debunked" - High Intensity Health Response
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Collagen Science Article - STATNews:
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Vegan-specific Anxiety and Depression Study:
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Red Meat and Depression Higher in Some Studies like This One:
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Plant-based but Not Fish Omega-3s Associated with Lower Depression:
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Barnard RCT on Advanced Glycation End-Products:
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AGEs and PCOS General:
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Vegan Hypothyroidism Trends Lower:
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Plant Versus Animal Protein in Elderly - No Difference:
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Exeter Vegan Protein Muscle Synthesis and Mass Study:
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Vegan C Reactive Protein Response to Intervention:
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6.8% of Americans Metabolically Healthy:
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I've been vegan 3 years now, and mostly I feel great, but the other day I stubbed my toe and it really hurt, so I think I gotta go back to exploiting animals
sure, exploiting plants is not a panacea either. your logic, as well as your humor, suffer from serious shortcomings, but one of the positive sides of animal exploitation is that at least you have more friends who understand you
@@v.a.n.e. maybe go reply in the last conversation we were having instead of just feeling triggered and looking for more conversations to insert your idiocy
@@v.a.n.e. Lolol I know I shouldn't feed the trolls, but.... do you not understand how animal agriculture works or what?
Yep it’s over for you now 😊
you asked a rather broad question. I'm familiar with many aspects of animal agriculture, but I'm not sure what you mean specifically?@@foul-fortune-feline
My husband & I have been plant based for 8 years. Best decision we have ever made. 👍🌱🥰 65 and feeling amazing!
I became wfpb to reverse diabetes 18 months ago. I had peripheral neuropathy,retina problems with one emergency surgery and fainting spells. In 4 months I revised diabetes with my neuropathy 95% gone at this point 18 months later.I had other benefits I hadn’t anticipated. I lost 40lbs, mood and memory improved, 10 years of arthritis disappeared within 2 weeks. Chronic tendinitis 90% gone. Energy massively improved. Bp down to 110/50. Lipids cholesterol and triglycérides in normal range. Visceral fat decreased froM 7 to 3, biological age reduced to 57, I am 61. Body scan reveals much higher than normal bone density and muscle composition. Am I going back to omnivore… that’s a hell no.
Now try the carnivore diet for 6 months and see what it is to feel alive and thriving 🥩
@@richardcardinale7152 troll
@@richardcardinale7152explain how they could do any better? Did you even read the comment, or are you just a meatheaded npc regurgitating the lies you’re told
For person on standard for my region diet it's weird to see all this diet wars. People say that they reversed same deceases on carnivore diet. It's so confusing.
Congratulations, that is so fantastic!! There was a line in The Simpsons were Manjula chides Apu to spend some time with his children instead of "selling fatty poisons to Americans", and it just really struck me. Sad how so many Americans in particular are harming themselves, bite by bite :(
But, congrats again on those lifestyle changes!! Life must be amazing and so much more enjoyable 🌞😎
Wow ! I use to watch High Intensity Health all the time . I was really thrown back when he came up with this study. I haven't had red meat in 43 years chicken fish and dairy 35 years . I'm 68 . I squat 175, bench press 110, deadlift 175 curl 60 pounds 70 on a good day. Haven't been sick in over 40 years., all on a plant base diet.
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I’m 66- no steak or bacon since 1976. Veg for decades and vegan for 11 yrs. Start my day with 100 push-ups before several other workouts. Still maintain excellent muscle mass ( for my age) and the same weight as my twenties!
Wow you guys are goals😊
Yes, if you want muscle you exercise, simple as that. I have not eaten meat since 1970. No dairy or eggs since 2011. Same weight as my whole adult life and healthy as ever at 65. Recently learned to hold handstands much longer, and can once again do backbends after having some problems with it in my twenties (was born with a curved spine). I also do my splits better than ever and learned to do the crow and more. Getting better at everything right now, and it's because of exercise and general health. If I had covid I didn't notice. No vaccine, but I tried to protect the weak in other ways. I've had 3 light colds in 12 years. As a vegetarian I had them every year, though.
@@carinaekstrom1 Given your past commentary, i'd say being intelligent, well-learned can be added to your resume. :) I love people who approach information scientifically and can respect it. You're going strong and healthy and hope you will for many more decades, cheers.
When you get all your data from the back of a keto cereal box
Magic spoon ?
Been vegan for over 7 years and my life just gets better and better each year 😚
Love ya bro
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Yes you are on the line haha.
When you fail , please go try the carnivore diet.
@@richardcardinale7152 if 6 years is "on the line" where does me thriving for 15 years put me? Lmao, Can we see your blood work so we can have an idea what you think "healthy" looks like? When you realize you are failing, I hope you consider a 100percent whole food plant based diet 😂
@@DavyOneness He'll have to survive his heart attack or stroke, first.
Older American vegan here, MDs and such I deal with are usually startled that I have no significant markers that show ill health and take no meds, other than vitamins B12 and D. I started taking D when I way an omnivore, who ate a fair amount of fish, and ate lots of dairy products, because my MD told me to, and I am old enough that B12 is recommended whatever my diet. As an omnivore I was healthy by US standards, asthma and autoimmune disease mediocrely controlled by meds. Diet switch meant I lost the autoimmune disease, dropped steroid inhaler, and haven’t used my rescue inhaler in years. I am so sick of people making themselves rich lying about vegan diets. I am old enough I have lost a fair number of friends to illnesses that can often be reversed by switching to a healthy vegan diet, and am looking at losing my siblings. I ate a healthy, non fast food, nonprocessed omnivore diet, and it failed me. The drop in CRP Mic mentions is not a little thing.
Thank you for sharing.
Very affirming
Aging healthy while those around my age are not doing so well sucks. But it’s better than being one of the unhealthy ones.
Here´s an anecdote: I had crippling anxiety as an omnivore, severe panic attacks almost weekly, I was considering applying for disability and quitting my one part-time job. Number of panic attacks since going vegan in 2021: 0. Working two jobs, happier and healthier than ever.
Yes ,now wait 2-5 years and see your anxiety coming back more strongly than ever.
@@richardcardinale7152 I'm so sorry to break this to you but that really isn't how any of this works. 🤣 Do you really think the anxiety is like "She's vegan now, let's wait five years and then reappear!"? 🤣
I'm happy that you feel so much better. I have a family member who suffers from the same. It's so limiting for them. (They're omnivore, but I don't see that as a cause of it. I do think it would be good for them to go vegan, but I'm not pushing that. They do eat a lot of my vegan food quite happily but going entirely vegan needs to be their own decision.)
Did you like…not just watch the video?
Sorry, meant to reply to the Richard guy
I know he's full of it, because I'm alive, healthy, and not depressed after not eating animals for over 50 years. Meanwhile most others my age are either dead or dealing with degenerative diseases.
Exactly my experience too!
Vegan for 34 years, extremely healthy and pill-free. I'm not yet old enough for most of my non-vegan peers to have died, but very few of them are doing well, and all of them are on at least one pill for hypertension, cholesterol, or some other food-based ailment. Of course, in their minds none of that has anything to do with food choices; it's all about bad luck in the genetic lottery.
I have been a vegan since 1963, only have one problem with the thyroid over the last 4 years , due to working in a CADMIUM lab and doing chemistry for 50 years, other than that no worries CHEERS
@@laserlightshowsraihill. I'm curious, did you take B12 when you went vegan?
@@carinaekstrom1 YES, and distilled or reverse osmosis water
The Rich Roll part was so ridiculous. That was from a podcast with Peter Attia as a guest, where Attia mentioned that he was having the same issues a few years back, when he was much younger than Rich Roll and eating a meat heavy diet. Could he be more biased? 😂
Back injuries are very common among gym bro's lacking real training out to break their personal best in a deadlift. It has nothing to do with diet. Attia has even talked about the foolishness of his lifting routine in the past.
@@Magnulus76 that is my point. But apparently if the injured athlete is vegan… it must be due to his diet!
Vegan 4 years, vegetarian 45 years.
Happy & healthy.
Thanks Mic. You are inspired.😊
Congrats!
Vegan for 12 years, vegetarian for 42. Happy and healthy me too 🤗👌
You know that vegetarianism is not a good thing though?
@@carinaekstrom1 So you were a hypocrite for 42 years!?
@@bengilkes7676 I actually thought vegetarianism could be done without killing someone. As soon as I leaned that it can't I went vegan. It took me too long, but I had no social media in those vegetarian days, I knew nobody who was vegan, didn't know how it could work, had not heard about B12 pills, etc.
When I ate animal products and was fat AF, my PCOS was horrible, my fibroids hurt me often, my thyroid was out of control, I was a diabetic, high cholesterol, high BP, plus I was in physical pain in my joint, I was on antidepressants all this stuff! I went plant based and within a few months I was off all meds, my PCOS and fibroids are never painful now and I've lost over 120 pounds. I hate people like this.
Omg I can totally relate, I had the worst cramps, debilitating on the first day, and super crazy heavy. After going vegan, no more cramps and lighter flow, also it went from 8 days to 5 days. Day 1, I used to be in so much pain and drained, no energy, after going vegan energy was fine and no cramps, like some kind of miracle. Also used to be anemic, went away after going vegan. I went vegan despite being anemic out of compassion and the unforseen rewards were truly great ❤
No major surprise that people are healthier if they are not overweight, but that tells us next to nothing about vegan vs. not. Not all people that eat meat are overweight and many vegans are actually underweight also and not getting optimal protein intake.
You were not because of meat. Lol.
@@GarudaLegends Read some science...
@@cyberfunk3793 vegans have normal BMI.
I've been Vegan for 5 years I don't get sick and I've never felt better at age 41 no supplements no medication only plant power. My friends say I'm reverse aging. Best thing I've done for myself. I started by going plant based was inspired by the game changers movie..
🙌🙌💖🌎💖🙌🙌 Sending Love. Thank you
What exactly do you eat? Cuz I've tried every starch and I guess I just have candida or yeast over growth and I cannot handle starches so I'm stuck with just various herbs and cruciferous veges. I can handle certain nuts like macadamia and pretty much anything expensive like that... So hard to figure out. I get the worst depression I can't even describe, legit suicidal, yea it gets that bad.. If you have any ideas I'm all ears.
@John Fish I only drink water preferably spring water and juices and coffee teas every once in a while. Try avoiding anything processed. I wake up at 5am every morning I film the sunrise just a habit of mine another reason I'm healthy..SUN 🌞🙌🙌🙌 I start with coffee in the morning I make Espresso the Cuban way then when I get hungry I eat an organic banana sometimes two. I'll have a bagel with garlic powder nutritional yeast roasted red peppers fresh dill from my garden sometimes. Also over night oats are great option too. Oats coconut milk and raisins is how i like it. I drink water all day long. Legumes Avocados any Fruits potatoes spinach arugula kale..I love garlic...just try and eat real food from the earth grown organically. For dinner I'll make a pasta with sautéed mushrooms garlic onions spinach splash of lemon and vegan white wine some capers mmmmmm. Mushrooms are your friend I actually just started growing lions mane so easy to grow perpetual food supply ;) and healthy you can use it as meat substitute for gourmet dishes ;) Just eat whenever you feel hungry forget everything they taught you about 3 meals a day food pyramid b.s. just do what you feel and follow your highest excitement at all times with no expectations of the outcome and you'll always be in the right place at the right time...the universe has your back..you will feel better...stay positive and go for nature walk or hit the beach for sunrise or sunset if your close. 🌞♾️💞
@@oceansunrisestudio So how do you get enough Omega-3 and Choline for long term brain health?
You need to supplement in B12 if not long term, you are going to have problems.
@@Crazeefish313 Do you live in the US?
Ugh...how many people will watch that video and not be able to see through it? Thanks for a stellar debunk!
Probably the same that can’t see through the vegan propaganda
Well done Mic! After 38 years of back issues, with being bed ridden for 6 days at some stage, with being off work for a month at some stage, with 7 months of pilatus physio, with many other physio visits, doctors visits, chiropractor visits, I can report that by far the best thing for my back was moving towards a whole food plant based diet.
how long are you on this diet?
chiropractor visits could be your biggest mistake. So many of them are quacks.
@@snubdawg1386 this diet being whole plants, cooked and raw but not fried +bacterial product B12 supplement
@@cyc00000 Correct, the world is full of quacks, many of them even have degrees...
@@snubdawg1386 Since 2013. After open heart surgery I decided to start my own diet-health research from scratch. Starting with the question: Where on the omnivore scale from 99.9% plants to 99.9% animal food is the healthiest and do we live the longest.
I know several anemics and they all eat meat. When I ate meat I also was anemic, which went away after I went vegan.
As a vegan of 3.5 years, man… watching Mic’s “veganism debunked” debunking videos is SO SATISFYING 🤩🤩😎😎 love it.
3.5 years is nothing. I'm vegan 12 years, and I don't put it out there as some sort of ''proof'' for anything...
@Mike Skylark .... No one said it was. 🤔🤔🤔
Your literally just getting irritated at your own assumptions lol 😂😂 t
@@mikeskylark1594 do you see a therapist? You should.
He doesn't actually do that good of a job. It's recency bias. I'd also like to mention that Mic doesn't look as healthy as he used to. I like Mic though, but he's been debunked many times by science. He's very selective as well. Just saying
Been vegan 11 years. All my anxiety is money-related. I don’t think eating a steak would fix that.
Exactly. Fleeting pleasure at the expense of an animal, won't cure depression.
Ha ha, well, we do save some money not buying meat but I hear you. My job gives me daily angina, but eating meat won’t make my company hire more people, or create logical structures for our work.
Actually, you may be deficient in lithium. Its a little known essential mineral that helps with cortisol regulation. Try getting it tested with your doctor, or you can try lithium orotate OTC 1-5mg. It has lots of interactions though so please check with your doctor beforehand. I take it instead of lithium carbonate, prescribed by psychiatrists for bipolar disorder and I have been in remission since I have started. ❤
I hope this helps.
Nonono, a steak would make you forget all you problems. Leucine is just magical. It magically makes money appear on your bank account. That’s why vegans are poor.
B vitamin related you mean
When I went vegan 5 years ago, I reversed heart disease, type 2 diabetes & hypertension. Also my depression & anxiety, which I had suffered from for many years, totally disappeared.
I'm now the healthiest & happiest I've ever been 😊
I recently stopped my antidepressants, under a doctors supervision, after taking them for over 20years. I really attribute this to my vegan diet. I'm not going to give medical advice, just my personal experience. I can only say going vegan really helped!
@guitarszen I already run 5 days a week and lift weights but thanks for assuming I was lazy
Antioxidants have been found to be helpful in treating depression. Plant based diets tend to include higher amount of antioxidant rich foods, so this makes sense. I can’t recall the study, but I believe Mike did a video showing that animal products (forget whether it was a specific product or nutrient, such as saturated fat) increased rates of depression. I’m happy that you’re well after all these years. That must be a tremendous relief.
@@user-no2mz9hl4f thanks so much
No, I’m sorry, that guy saw some people in a grocery store - probably vegan - who had chips & cookies in their cart. Ergo: veganism debunked! Can’t argue with science, man.
How come nobody can get this debunking vegan stuff right 😂
Obviously it just can't be done.
You can't exactly debunk the truth.
Can we just get rid of that chart every meat eater is referencing?!?!? It hurts so much looking at it and the misconstrued information on it 😭
💯 agreed
The whole B12 thing is such bs. My Grandmother who ate predominately meat had full on dementia from lack of B12. Also, my mom who has always eaten a lot of meat is now on a once-a-month B12 shot, that I have to give her. Some people are prone to not absorbing B12 like they should. Me? I faithfully take my B12 supplement every day because I KNOW that animal protein or plant protein humans just don't get enough B12.
Actually, now that you mention it, a person I know is anemic and he has to get B12 shots all while being a huge meat eater.
I don't know I'm skeptical to point at B12 as the reason she had dementia. There are a whole bunch of risk factors.
Hopefully you take methylcobalamin (natural) and not cyanocobalamin (synthetic).
@Michael T If you're concerned about natural nutrients, you can get your b12 from bivalves.
Like plants , bivalves don't have a brain, and so they can't mind if we eat them.
@@jeffk464 The Dr. said it was definitely the lack of B12. And the reason my mother started the B12 shots is because she started having memory issues and neuropathy, so they checked her B12, and it was severely low. So, I have my Dr. check my B12 every year.
Interestingly he has a Buddha in the background of his video. Wtf??!
You are a treasure. We are so lucky to have you to cut through all of this B.S.
I just had my 7 year veganniversary!! I went plant-based for health to reverse my autoimmune disease. The only flare I had was during my 2nd pregnancy (high WBC count), but have been so much healthier than I used to be as an omnivore!! I now have 2 happy healthy kids - both vegan since conception 🙊
Also this comment section is a wealth of vegan success anecdotes 😂❤
I’m 66 - vegan for 11yrs. Still mostly thick brown hair - no hair loss 🤦♀️
My depression and anxiety is near 0 since i went plant based, it’s actually one of the biggest reasons i’m sticking to plant based diet, as through experimentation, i know for a fact meat is the culprit here(for me personally). As for alcohol, again, i feel no need to drink now, whereas before, i would often feel the need to either drink wine or even beer after meals. It certainly has its drawbacks too, but mental health or substance abuse are hardly some of them.
Enjoy the phylic acid which comes only from non animal products 👍
You're too nice. The man's a walking example of the Dunning-Kruger Effect, and so are his viewers who credit him with any expertise. Good job picking his "facts and science" apart, and thanks for posting!
great work mic, thank you. I've been vegan for 11 years, aged 60 and still alive and healthy!! I hope he watches this.
Thanks Mic! This guy is playing the neutral evidence based mediator in his video, but he is clearly biased and entrenched in his low carb sophistry and delusion.
Well said 👏
I have an identical twin brother. I’m vegan, he’s not. I have more hair and better health. I’d say our overall happiness is comparable. But aside from my the anectotal evidence; I don’t care if being vegan is more or less healthy than being an omnivore. I care about the animals and environment and if that means I live a shorter less healthy live, so be it; so far it works out fine for me (veggy for 20 years, vegan for 6).
Frankly speaking I've been far less depressed since going vegan, even though our trajectory as a species is far more bleak than it has ever been, and worries me. the far reaching
power of disinformation echo chambers , is especially worrisome.
Also, I'm kinder and more patient since being vegan.
Also it cured my anemia.
Also my hair, nails and skin have improved tremendously. Mind you , I generally eat healthy, clean, lots of fresh greens and fruits , which has likely contributed.
If I were a junk food vegan I'd probably be no better off than a carnivor
Here again. How did you cure your anemia ( what form? ) with vegan food?
@@Gaia_Seraphina By eating properly, you eating disordered buffoon. It's called food, shocking, i know. Legumes, greens, grains, etc, all have an abundance of bioavailable iron, bioavailability naturally increased further by vitamin C. Don't blame veganism just because you don't know how to eat in the first place.
Same thing here , with the carnivore diet 🥩❤️
@Gaia Seraphina so when I went vegan I did it for compassionate reasons/ethics despite being anemic. I didn't know that anemia could be reversed. So it's just something that happened within less than a year of going vegan. It was a long time ago so there weren't many fake meats and cheeses, they weren't tasty and didn't interest me. I didn't know how to be vegan, there wasn't any social media yet. So I just the same except that my salads became the bulk of my meal where previously it was a small side dish. And I used to make fresh apple juice and pop it in the blender with 2 cups kale, a banana and about 1 cup frozen blueberries . That was my appetizer, I'd drink it while making dinner.
I'm just typing anything I can remember about the early days bc that's when the anemia got reversed.
Also, I cut out wheat and sugar, I'd use banana to sweeten my cookies and cakes. In place of wheat, I'd put oats in a food processor and turn it into flour .
Also I started eating a much greater variety of vegetables and in larger quantities to replace the meat. B4 the veggies were just a tiny portion of my meal with meat being the bulk. I loved meat. Breakfast lunch and dinner. Beef lamb pork chicken fish seafood. Once in a while I crave lobster and shrimp but it passes quickly and it's always when I haven't eaten enough. However, the smell of meat cooking males my stomach turn and burns my nostrils, though I'll be honest, I did crave meat the first few years but the knowledge of the suffering of the animals easily kept me steadfast. I also used to make butternut squash curry alot , something I never used to eat. And next day I'd turn the leftovers into cutlets using the squash and oatflour. I'd steam broccoli, pulse it in the processor with onions and garlic salt pepper, then pulse in the oatflour for broccoli cutlets. Beans weren't really on my radar, but I did make a pot of lentil vegetable soup weekly.
For my morning lattes I used ricemilk in place of dairy milk.
That apple juice kale blueberry smoothie was a daily thing, kept it up for first few years, until life changes didn't allow for enough time. Now I use water instead of apple juice.
That's all I can remember. hopeIt helps ❤
Edit
I just remembered, back then I stayed away from soy, unless it was fermented (miso), bc I had read it caused hormonal imbalances and it scared me lol
I eat alot of organic tofu now, love it.
@@teagoldleaf4137
My, that's ALL what you can remember? 😄
I can't even remember what I've eaten the day before yesterday.😅
The contrast between these two Michaels is stark. One cites anecdotes, one questionable paper, and thin air. The other cites dozens of studies, primary and meta-analyses, to back up everything he says.
High Intensity Mike likes to say "Let's look at the science." Yeah, let's.
People tell me I look healthier than ever. I can't tell if it's good nutrition or a clear conscience. Eating dismembered body parts is kind of psychotic. V4L 💚🍎🥑
I was depressed and anxious before I went vegan!🎉
😅yes I was too!
i was also, and still am. diet doesn't resolve childhood trauma. my depression comes from being alone and neglected, and not feeling loved. it is depression caused by other people, and it can only be healed by other people. not by food.
Levi Dahl
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Meat is weak
Be Strong Go Vegan
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@@BigIndianBindi-jy1cz True to a certain extent. Was on antidepressants for more than 20 years. Got finally out of it after doing a stay at Optimal Health Institute in San Diego, a raw food place with cleansing. Therapy is important to deal with childhood trauma but food plays a big role as well as cleansing or detox. Meditation also plays a role. I don't fall into those pits of despair and intense sadness anymore.
I had depressions since I was 14. At 18 vegetarian, at 21 omnivore. At 40 seizures. The medication help with my depressions. I'm still on medication and this will not change my whole life. Vegan since beeing 54. No change. Me beeing vegan have nothing to do with my depressions. 2 totally different subjects.
I went vegan while working a physical labor job. Literally only changed my diet and lost 120+lbs and have been gaining muscle without much effort 🎉 i can do SO many push ups now!!🎉 lol😂
Sweet
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Yeah nobody is going to gain more muscle due to going vegan because objectively vegans get less protein from diet on average and are often not in the optimal intake range. Losing weight might be due to going vegan, but gaining muscle not unless you mean from side effects like that the lost weight makes you go out and train more often.
@@cyberfunk3793 Pulling that out of your bottom? There is an actual study in this video showing more gains by vegans than omnis. I got more proteins in my diet since going vegan...
@@goku445 "Pulling that out of your bottom? There is an actual study in this video showing more gains by vegans than omnis."
Why are you lying? The study found EQUAL gains in a group of people that had high protein intake. Problem is, vegans don't have high protein intake on average and get clearly less protein on average than omnivores and don't typically reach optimal levels starting at about 1.2g per kg per day.
"Omnivorous and vegan diets can support comparable rested and exercised daily MyoPS rates in healthy young adults consuming a high-protein diet."
@@cyberfunk3793 If we want more protein, we can just eat more, it's not like something unavoidable, and not difficult to change. We get our protein from healthier sources.
My anecdote: I run faster than I did in high school as long distance athlete as a vegan pushing 40. My vegan pregnancies were healthier and vegan deliveries easier. My mental health since being vegan has been incredibly better than when I was a carnist/omnivore. Although, I have also been sober this whole time so I think that also contributes to this. On the superficial side, I get told I look 25-28 even though I am almost 40. My skin is always clear and I had never achieved that as an ominvore. What I appreciate most about being vegan is what is had done for my me empathetically speaking. I feel and long to act for the betterment of the planet, the animals, and my fellow humans having lived nearly 7 years with this kind of empathy and love.
Question. If his omnivore diet is so great why does he own a supplement company?
This comment, right here. Excellence 🔥
Always be closing.
I enjoy these debunking debunking videos
DDbunked
Love these debunking videos. It says a lot that you actually cite things.
Someone who doesn't understand that correlation doesnt equal causation has the guts to talk about depression.
These people love telling us how correlation doesn't equal causation when we cite the large epidemiology studies, but then they instantly forget and start making the most spurious correlations imaginable .
These people are immune to hypocrisy.
even if he was right, and it was worse than that, I would not ever go back to eating, wearing or paying for the abuse and exploitation of non-humans. veganforlife ❤
But you're fine with abusing and exploiting humans ?
I'm sorry , I'm gonna have to revoke your vegan card.
@@FreshGreenMoss where does it say I exploit humans?
@@FreshGreenMoss It is the meatindustry and fishingindustries that abuse and exploit humans on a mass scale too.
@veganforlife You excluded human animals, and that's speiciesest , so you're not a real vegan . Sorry , I don't make the rules.
Perhaps you can call yourself a misanthropic vegan.
@@FreshGreenMoss you forgot a /s there
Thanks for taking the time to properly debunk this stuff.
Well done. Oh, I always learn something. I am so glad you are on our side because you’re a very skilled at researching and reporting this information.
So I ate vegan for about a year before I started giving in again...... during that time, my anxiety and depression almost vanished. It came back when I increased the standard American diet. I'm going back on a whole foods plant based diet and it is improving again
All these people that state "vegetable are toxic" are really getting annoying, LOL. They act like just because a food has oxalates, lectins, phytates, etc, that we're just killing ourselves.. come on.
Great de-bunk again Mic! This one was almost tooo easy 😂
I was low carb for years and I was able to maintain a good weight during that time, but eventually it caught up to me and I had neurological damage. Eaten plant-based with plenty of fruit and starch healed me.
I've been vegan for 6+ yrs. Last week an incident happened where I needed to eat but there was nothing except for animal milk yogurt. I had 2 servings of it 3 days ago and my knees and ankles are still inflamed. I cant point to anything else except for the dairy. I dont ever have this problem.
I didn't expect it to be even that bad and unscientific!
Been a vegetarian for 10yrs and vegan for 4 i always regret why i didnt go vegan sooner but i was too young to know about being vegan anyways iam so proud that iam now and always feeling so energetic and a multitasker,good skin ,good hair❤❤ and the important thing is immunity
Yeah....i've been vegan for 8 years and before that a vegetarian for 40 years.....like yourself i wish i'd been vegan since the begining , although in those days veganism was not well known......
I'm also very proud
At 56 and vegan I am stronger lifting weights and more fit for cycling than I had ever been as an omnivore. My recovery time is a couple hours, not days, and DOMS is almost non existent. My cholesterol, blood pressure, and heart rate are all low. Removing animal products from my diet has done nothing but improve my life and my health.
Thank you Mic for doing the hard work to give us real data. Vegan for 7 plus years.
Vegan 6 years now, healthier than ever, never going back. Thank you Mic for the effort you put into these videos, it's comically easy to debunk these people. Where are all these deficiencies and symptoms I should be having?!?! Haha I strength train and run, recovery is fantastic, and I'm actively building muscle.
The biggest thing that hits me when I see videos like his is that they feel so dated. Like stop talking about b12, Vit D, protein, etc. We get it and it's not even an issue. Do one google search about how to get these on a vegan diet and the debate is over. Seriously. I think if they are honest and try to actually debunk veganism... they'd fail and wouldn't have a video to post.
The term vegan just says what is NOT eaten, it doesn't say anything about what exactly is being eaten which makes all the difference where diet is concerned. Seeing as how there is no one way to do a vegan diet, some vegan diets can be very healthy while other vegan diets can be very unhealthy. It all depends on what exactly is eaten in the diet.
I failed at a vegetarian diet in high school mainly because of parties and social events not being vegetarian friendly. Also that was 13 years ago and I wasn’t vegan just vegetarian. Tried again in college and it stuck. It is difficult being vegan in a non vegan world. Most places nowadays are starting to have vegan options but they are usually one option or a pathetic salad. The social aspect of being different also makes it hard.
It depends right. (UK, plymouth) everywhere at least has a vegan option although its usually burger thats available option. But there are two 100% vegan. It easy enough to grab 4 types of lunch including 1 sushi option. I think its stagnated a bit but hopefully more options and 100% vegan places appear thats not just one or two.
I believe the interview was with Dr. Peter Attia. Dr. Attia is Omnivore and has severe back pain in the past, lasted a very long time and has some psychological issues, which is written in his latest book. I listen to RR and Dr. Attia. Both incredible and knowledgeable people. It is unfortunate that we has people like the one you are talking about that have no clue about a plant based diet and puts out terrible information
about vegans. Thank your videos!
I've noticed that every day I and others are getting 24 hours older, must be because there are more vegans around.
Dude lives in matrix. Vegan did only Good in my life, no negatives effects...
6 years of keto/carnivore left me with health issues this man is trying to put on veganism: sarcopenia (and a big one, I was skin and bones), suicidal thoughts (I asked my brother to take care of my son if something should happen to me), joint destruction (left knee, right thigh, wrists), hair loss and hair thinning due to high cortisol and my thyroid slowly giving up on me, much more frequent migraines than I'd experienced before dropping carbohydrates (this was the reason why I started the keto experiment), nausea, cyclical vomiting syndrome (once a month lasting 3 days - pure agony), EXTREME methane SIBO (and I mean EXTREME), painful bowel movements every 6 days, arrhythmia and pain in the chest (I couldn't sleep on the left side for the last year on this diet), cholesterol nearly 400, LDL 270. Since I transitioned back to eating 99% plants (which was painful, I killed many of the beneficial bacteria species by eating little to zero carbs) the only thing I am left with and still trying to heal is painful joints but I understand it must take time. If anyone has been suffering from arthritis of any kind and managed to heal on a vegan diet, I'd be grateful for some tips. I still eat 80 g of sardines in olive oil once a week, other than that, zero animal foods.
If you want to go fully vegan , you can swap the sardines for bivalves such as oysters and mussels.
Like plants, bivalves don't have brains , so they can't mind if we eat them .
I like to grill them in garlic butter.
I'd ditch the sardines and olive oil, these do nothing good for your health. The fish in our oceans are all polluted with plastics, pesticides and whatnot and no oil is healthy, pufa oils get rancid really quickly forming the toxic hydroxynonenal and olive oils isn't a pufa but a mufa but still has 12% saturated fat.
Long term Fasting or long term exercise gets rid of most autoimmune disease and maybe cancers due to the breaking down / autophagy of faulty cells. Healthy eating wont breakdown autoimmune cells but does reduce inflammation from them and rebuilds healthy cells that have been broken down fom fasting or exercise.
@@ttt72772 Thank you. I have a very unpleasant experience with fasting maybe beacuse I had severe electrolyte imbalance due to zero carb diet when I tried to water fast. I know that autophagy starts at 15-16hr fast so I hope now when my electrolytes are pretty much ok I can handle it. Yes, when I don't eat the pain subsides. It must be autoimmune.
@@FreshGreenMoss than you, oysters are high in zinc so I guess it's a great substitution 👍
Ah, thank you for clapping back with all your class and knowledge, Mic!
Ten years WFPB. 65 years-old. Currently close to completing a transcontinental bicycle ride from San Diego to St Augustine, FL. But maybe I should just quit since I'm obviously so unhealthy.
Thanks Mic. You can find anything to corroborate or negate anything on the internet. Such a mine field. Happily vegetarian since 1985 and vegan since 2017. I’ve never felt better. 🌱💪🏻🤗
I’m turning 60 this year… sure I could lose some weight but I just had my blood work for my annual physical and my cholesterol is at 184! Everything else was perfect! I take no medication for anything except an occasional acid reflux( something I’ve had my entire life). I went vegan about 6 years ago…. I did it for a year and then I decided to add fish to my diet. I’ve been pescatarian ever since. Although I don’t eat it very often. Mostly beans and tofu over here… you can’t argue with your blood work.
had 1 cold in the last 10 years.
Yeah I’m depressed. Depressed by the depravity of humans and what they ignorantly do to animals whilst stating they love animals.
My anxiety went away when i went vegan 15 years ago. Ive been thriving ever since. Gaining muscle too
These people who twist the narrative are harmful. This guy shouldn't have a platform.... thanks for covering his lies, Mike.
I keep wondering about the motivation of these die hard meat eaters. Like… why?! When they want to convince people veganism is dangerous and they know they’re lying, is it just a way of being defensive about eating meat when they know they shouldn’t? Would be an interesting video to delve into the psychological phenomenon of these meat lovers. I always wonder about it and I can’t figure it out.
I've been vegan for 9 years and have had anxiety issues for my whole life. For me, going vegan didn't make it go away and it didn't make it worse either. We shouldn't pretend that being vegan will make all our problems go away. Diet is a huge part of health, but there are so many other factors to consider too.
I unsubscribed from that guy, just wild claims not backed by data.
I was depressed and anxious long before I went vegan. Actually I’m better since going vegan. Not cured but better.
I've been vegan for 13 years, vegetarian for many more before that. I am now 64 and never get sick, don't hsve a weight problem and my last blood pressure check was 117/70 even though I had a lot of salty food the day before . I also find I have a quicker recovery from muscle soreness after working out. I have 2 friends (one heavy, one very thin) that eat loads of dairy and have osteoporosis and high blood pressure . They won't listen to me to go vegan
You slam dunked on his ass! Please respond to Dr.Thomas seyfried. His claims on cancer are in stark contrast to whole food plant based or higher carb . I haven’t seen one plant based Doctor address this. Thank you Mic. Your the undisputed champion.
Hi, Mic. I love your videos and truly appreciate what you are doing. Just curious about the 15% lower rate of cancer stat you mentioned (around 19:09) for vegans: you attributed it to more antioxidant content in the vegan diet, and I am wondering about the higher IGF-1 levels coming from eating animal protein and fueling cancer-cells' growth. (I learned about this first from Dr. Milton Mills.) That would seem to me to be more significant, epidemiologically, than antioxidant activity in giving vegans lower risk of cancer. What do you think about that topic? My apologies if you already addressed this elsewhere.
This stuff is so insane to people like us who’ve been vegan for years and thriving. I had a few IBS issues (that I had before being vegan), all I needed to do was bump up my fermented foods and it’s gone.
He talks in anecdotes, so that’s why I’m giving mine. Feeling better than I have since I was in my early 20s. I’m 38, BMI is 19.4. No prescriptions.
Thank you so much for all your work!
They also never seem to know or care to mention that veganism is not a diet. It is a way of life that mirrors your ethics/morals.
Thanks for making this video and sharing it Mike. Can you do an extensive video on collagen if you haven’t already?
It's kind of hard to watch these people say the same crap. I'm glad you are here to debunk them. I like hearing your info but i can't stand watching their clips
Saludos y muchas bendiciones para todos los veganos. ❤
Could it be if you use your body hard, ie professional athlete for example, that as you age some of your joints might get a bit creaky? Age 70 and I have always been real active and I too have some back issues and as my doc said, I got a few miles on the old chassis.
Can Rich no longer roll? I laughed at this way too hard 😂😂😂
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Thanks for all your work, Mic. 💚💚💚
I have adult grandchildren and and a genetic disorder that causes joint problems. Going vegan about 6 years ago has helped my joints to the point where I’m off painkillers. I’m also not taking cholesterol medication and I’m off one of my blood pressure meds. It’s taken time for all this to happen, but I felt better and had more energy within a few days. Just saying LOL
I was going to watch it but then i knew it was going to be biased 😂 thanks for debunking it. All i can say is 60percent of americans are overweight or obesed and that is certainly not from plant based diet
Top notch, Mic! Keep on standing for Truth!
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Wow! So glad you did this video! I saw Mike Mutzel's post a couple days ago and was appalled by how sloppy it was. What the heck happened to him? I've always respected his exercise advice but now I'm suspect.
He is just trying to point out how deficiencies can be avoided, should they become apparent, and how animal foods can be helpful in that scenario.
@@TomasGrannNo he's not. He's specifically focusing on how "nutrient deficiencies may be present on a plant based diet" because animal foods aren't present. He makes essentially no mention of the much larger percentage of the population eating animal foods that is also nutrient deficient. Example - about 0.5% of the country is vegan, yet over 75% of the country is vitamin D deficient. Even if EVERY vegan was D deficient, 3/4 of everyone else is also vitamin D deficient. His logic suggests D deficient carnivores should simply eat more meat. This is nothing more than a thinly veiled and poorly executed hit piece on vegans. And for the record, no, I'm not vegan.
@@jackvegas3705 Yes, to my point of deficiencies, such as a plant based diet very much can contribute to. Is he really stating such logic in suggesting more meats, greater chances for solutions? I got the memo he advocated for a omnivorous way of eating and sees solely plant eating to be of concern. I don’t subscribe to the idea that because none vegans are also deficient (example vitamin d you give, which is an issue bigger than only in regard to food intake), thus plant based is somewhat standing in a neutral position. That’s in my opinion a lazy way of reasoning and ignores the bigger picture, one that plants and avoidance of meats will most probably not fix. Well I guess it’s of curtesy that you inform me you’re not vegan, but regardless, I don’t care. I hope you and others see through team-A versus team-B and are able to make a better quality of living by finding out for themselves what works and what doesn’t. That’s why I like to read vegans write about good results just as the ‘opposite’ that is nowadays carnivores, and with that said, wishing you to eat and live good in the bright future of yours.
Brain Defficiency is VERY COMMON AMONGST MEATEATERS
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always coming back to your videos 🙏
Haha, my wife dared me to grow out my hair like I used to have when I was younger and I swear it grows faster, fuller and stronger than it used to 10 years ago and was eating animals
Re vegans and depression: After becoming an ethical vegan and realizing there’s realistically no end in sight for the torture of animals because of people’s stubborn desire to eat them and their excretions, I became pretty depressed. RUclipsrs like this one being debunked who refuse to have an ounce of compassion or look at actual unbiased data breaks my heart for the animals. And I’m sad for those whose health is harmed because of perpetuating misinformation from animal eaters.
All you say is true, and it is heartbreaking, but veganism is growing despite far reaching corporate
carnist propaganda. There is a bright light, hang in there ❤
Good job Mic. Destroy the clowns :)
Mic, re: the whole back and joint pain thing over 50... I can only speak from my own experience here, but I have back and joint issues. After consulting several docs and trying a myriad of healing modalities, I have come to some conclusions. 1) You can wreck your future body unwittingly by eating like crap (meaning, junk food, sugar, oils, eating out of balance, etc.), not exercising at all or properly, being overweight, or being stressed out when you're younger. So, you younger folks? Get informed and take care of yourself. Your future body with thank you. 2) I've been getting my bloodwork done very regularly to see if my diet/lifestyle tweaks are pulling my numbers down. The ONLY thing that has worked on getting my inflammation markers down has been a WFPB (including no oil and sugar and low salt) diet. Does that mean I advocate that for everyone? Nope. But I am saying that it's brought my weight down, my pain down, and blood numbers down. The reality of all those issues coming up after 50 may just be flower that bloomed from what was planted earlier... if you get me.
You got to love bro caveman science
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Remember kids, if you wish to grow big and strong; eat your vegetables. 💪🏼🥑👍🏼
Mike/Mic The vegan, would you mind link the study that refer to the maximal length of an amino acid chain for absorption?
Very good. 👌 Again. 🤗. Thanks.
Go on selling your supplements and eating meat when the camera is off...