"Why I Quit Carnivore" Videos: From Health Scares to Cult Concerns
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I’m glad they can admit this. No hate from me.
They still don't give a rat's tiny а$$ about animals, only about their own intestines.
Right on. We all wish health and happiness for ourselves and others (including non human animals)
they admit? 1she has never been carnivore 2 she eats overcooked ground meat 3 she needs a lot raw meat.
@ApexSuperior1998 You forgot the confessions of Frank Tifano? He's not a "she," and one couldn't want a more perfect or dedicated "carnist" than that dude...
@@ApexSuperior1998 , don't be cringe.
Broccoli more delicious than bacon! 🥦🥦
It's the lack of class 1 carcinogens.
Roccoli is amazing.
You don't honestly believe that.
I agree.
You have taken Lillis broccoli comment completely out of context! I watched that video, she has not quit carnivore.
Dr.Caldwell is amazing ❤ his whole family is just so energetic.
that james blunt joke was gold
Carnivore hybrid, sensible diet is it for me. Low carb, Whole Foods. No processed. Still helps to achieve the goals and feel good.
A Harvard study: Association of Animal and Plant Protein Intake With All-Cause and Cause Specific Mortality.
Researchers brought in a large group of people and they looked at the protein they ate and who lived and who died. They controlled for the cholesterol and the fat so they could look just at the effect of the protein. Conclusion: Animal protein is always associated with higher mortality. Plant protein was inversely associated with all cause mortality.
I think why people who start carnivore experience health improvement is because they dont eat processed foods anymore!
5 year vegan. I suffered from metabolic syndrome (obesity, high cholesterol, high triglycerides, and high blood sugar). I went whole food plant based no sugar or oil and low salt and I lost 65 pounds, all my conditions greatly improved, my gums stopped bleeding, and erections and energy returned. I used to have an appetite that was never satisfied; whole foods cured it. I no longer use a sleep apnea machine. Finally, the food is cheap-Beans, lentils, sprouted flourless grain bread, rice, potatoes and seasonal apples. Also, I save money by not having to buy pills or visit the Doctor. I am thankful to all the vegans who suffered attacks to reveal the truth to me.
It's refreshing to see someone post eating plant based, that has had a myriad of ailments fixed through eating plant based. (Not surprising) but every video I see is someone who did carnivore that says "It literally made my bank account say one billion dollars bro!!!!" And I'll just be like "I Eat what I want....I just lost weight and switched to a more whole food diet (still some processed stuff, yes) and had literally all of the same benefits / weight loss etc.
I respect anyone who is vegan as well, especially if they are doing it for the betterment of animals.
I do mix- healthy plant based and healthy grass fed meat and pasture raised eggs. It is a balance. I know many vegans are unhealthy too.
@@GuitarsAndSynths Grass fed won't save you. Here is a Harvard Study, I have other studies that conclude the same. A Harvard study: Association of Animal and Plant Protein Intake With All-Cause and Cause Specific Mortality.
Researchers brought in a large group of people and they looked at the protein they ate and who lived and who died. They controlled for the cholesterol and the fat so they could look just at the effect of the protein. Conclusion: Animal protein is always associated with higher cardiovascular mortality. Plant protein was inversely associated with all cause mortality.
I foresee a few people going, "If no *longer vegan videos* are just anecdotal but not a flaw with the diet, then how is carnivore different?" As FiftyPlusBeauty mentioned, there are no long term studies on a carnivore diet but we have countless long term studies on vegans showing lower disease rates. The Esselstyn study I mentioned in the context of her stroke and going on an Esselstyn diet was 12 years, showing a halting of cardiovascular disease as well as the other studies I briefly covered in the video. People will have issues on all diets but when you only have anecdotes, the counter anecdotes matter more. You are only playing at the bottom of the hierarchy of scientific evidence. These people are like canaries in the coal mine. Carnies in the coal mine?!!
Also, ex-vegans have no evidence for their anecdotes, while many ex-carnivores state specific health problems that can be measured and often have blood work to prove it.
Fifty plus beauty seems like a lovely person, but she also failed to mention if she had a certain medical intervention these last years , the Jab that is, and how many boosters. It is a known fact that that causes clots. I alone know 10 ppl that have had them since, young and old.
The fact you used lilie Kane is hysterical. You either didn’t watch her video or are lying. She still meat based. She tried adding things back in and it made her sick
@@flugmodus9214she also had a whole in her heart that caused the stroke.
You could mention the millions of animals that lose their habitat and existence from farming plants. Also the chemicals being sprayed on all plants including organic are of concern to many. I eat meat based but to keto which is some plants. There are thousands that have fixed their problems by removing plants, sugar, grains, and processed food. I agree that clean plant based could work but the sugar addiction is real and causes issues to those addicted to the sweet tastes. No diet is perfect and your arguments are woth consideration. I believe ketogenic is the answer as I tried plant based and quit in 2 weeks as it made me sick. To each their own and good luck finding their proper human diet. Peace out.
I have a congenital heart value issue (PFO) and had a stroke. My cardiologist recommended that I stay WFPB for the rest of my life. Now I'm too old to consider heart surgery so there's no way I'm ever eating meat. I see meat and immediately think stroke. Thank goodness my coronary arteries are blockage free.
Praise God you're ok.
@@user56gghtf Fast forward 15 years and I've had no further issues. No meat for this old lady ever again!
@@user56gghtf God ain't got nothing to do with it
actually seed oils block arteries, and calcifications from the bones in reaction to seed oils, cooked dairy and flesh. the plaque that blocks arteries is an immune reponse - like inflammation - so meat itself doesn't block anything except maybe the colon; but if it's very often then it would have this response.
you wanna avoid seed oils. no fried shit.
not sure what meat has to so with your heart valve stroke, that's from clotting factors not diet.
You wanna try watching Lillie Kane's video again, she went back to 95% carnivore and goes over the reasons towards the end of the video...
She says that she currently eats 2 servings of fruit a day, vegetables when she wants, etc. but yes, as I mention right after her LDL number that she is still eating a pretty animal-based diet which matches with her not seeming to be concerned about her high LDL. So not carnivore anymore but l'd say closer to a high animal keto diet.
@@MictheVegan it was a 6 week experiment that didn't go well and at 22 mins in the video she explains that she has returned to just 60g of carbs a day... Most of that from dairy.
@@bongovonzippernice try Shlomo :^}
Goatis(Sv3ridg3) Made a response saying all her issues were happening because she wasn't eating the meat raw 😂
😂😂😂
Bro is grasping at excuses and anecdotes till death.
That’s true though. Cooking food destroys the nutrients
but its true ... she eats a lot overcooked ground meat ... obviosly she has health issues. some carnivore like me that eat at leats 60 % raw meat and 50 % cooked meat ( not overcooked ... rare or medium rare ) we dont have any health issues,
@@ApexSuperior1998 It seems to be working wonders for your cognition too. Really giving it 110%
Carnivore for life. Cant take away from me the healing ive had because of it. If vegan is working for u. Good for u. No one can tell u what to eat and what to believe. I'll continue to get healtier. Hopefully u will to
I agree I feel better on carnivore but agree everyone should do them!
Gonna be a short life
@@mauricec7070 shouldn’t comment on something you don’t know 100% enjoy your life I’ll enjoy mine!
Kudos to all these people for being honest.
Imagine going back in time 30 years and someone asking you what the impact of the "information superhighway" would be and you reply, "you know scurvy, that sailors disease from hundreds of years ago? Thanks to the internet it's making a comeback"
Laughing so hard!
🤣🤣🤣
Although I get what you mean, more information is a good thing. How to process that info is another. I will always advocate for free speech. There is no such thing as a democratic society without it. I do feel sorry for the gullible. There are so many pitfalls out there for them, like liquor, drugs, porn and gambling. I just wish that animals never had suffer more because of fools.
@@balderdashery1More information is a good thing not more misinformation. That's the problem
@@anopinionatedlaymanappears9052 for sure. The internet's signal-to-noise ratio is pitiful.
I’ve done carnivore and vegan at different times , lost alot of weight on both , but the blood work was much better on vegan.
vegan is not a diet, it is a state of kind.
@@catherinehoy5548 yes a delusional state of mind where morons think they have 3 stomachs to process fiber and extract nutrients from trees and flowers.
But how you felt?
better by which standards again?
Do you have any clue how those blood markers are established and by who and why?? Anyhow, if you feel good I'm happy for you.
Lily Cane is still doing carnivore.
No she isn’t cus she eats some fruit she clearly even says “animal based “ cus she knows you can’t be carnivore while eating non carnivore foods
She has never been Carnivore.
@@sebk174 she was 😂 did you get your meat feelings hurt also lol
She says that she currently eats 2 servings of fruit a day, vegetables when she wants, etc. but yes, as I mention right after her LDL number that she is still eating a pretty animal-based diet which matches with her not seeming to be concerned about her high LDL. So not carnivore anymore but l'd say closer to a high animal keto diet.
@@MictheVegan LDL isn't a bad thing, genius. But hey, trust your jab pushing Dr's that have no nutrition training that make bank off pushing statins, so trustworthy.
doesnt she say at the end of the vid shes back on meat?
Yes. This video leaving our context like that is the problem with some influencers. Blatantly dishonest and just hoping their viewers don't go to the source material.
@@mattg7977 im still vegan 15 years but yeah.
She says that she currently eats 2 servings of fruit a day, vegetables when she wants, etc. but yes, as I mention right after her LDL number that she is still eating a pretty animal-based diet which matches with her not seeming to be concerned about her high LDL. So not carnivore anymore but l'd say closer to a high animal keto diet.
@@MictheVegan ok, thanks. u do great work.
@@MictheVegan not at all , she says at the end that she is back to where she was with one piece of fruit and she doesn't mention veggies (at the end), I also saw some of the other videos you showed and you are cherry picking parts. You seem so dishonest and biased... you give me very bad vibes.
Thanks, Mic. People need to know what happens when people attempt this long term.
There's some videos out there about an 82 year old that has eaten like this for all her life. She looks 60.
Hey Mic! Just wanted to say I like your videos and that you helped convince me to go vegan. I've been vegan for about 4 months now :)
Wow, that is so awesome!!!
Nice virtue. Such signals.
@@bigmambahful Get a life.
Me also and love it
The auto subtitles changed carnivore to carnival, pretty accurate if you ask me.
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I can hear the carnival jingle in my head now
I do called them carnies sometimes :o)
Vegans rejoicing at carnivore quitters, just like carnivores rejoice at vegan quitters.
I just look at both and shake my head, and eat my meat and veg.
I mean it's good news, but when the carnivore dieters quit it's a win for their health and the animals and planet.
When a vegan quits, no one wins. (Except for the %1 of people who have an imbalance and need some meat.)
Because the carnivore diet is built on anecdotes and now, we have plenty of anecdotes to the opposite
So happy to see this 😮❤
I love this video! It was sooo informative about this carnivore diet. This diet is insane. All the troubles of following this diet. I really felt sorry for the older woman who had a stroke/heart attack and now she is going through Esselstyn to repair herself. Sad what these people went through. I have so much appreciation for my plant-base diet/life style because it doesn't do any of that.
It takes years to build up enough plaque to have a stroke. Plus it’s the triglycerides that cause plaque. No carbs = no triglycerides 😊
Not informive about the carnivore diet. Same thing here as we see with conservative Christians - finding bits and pieces of info to support your belief, rather than learn (or believe) anything new. Totally not informative about the carnivore diet.
They found a small hole in her heart. Similar cause as plant choppers stroke.
only because did not happen to you does not mean that plant based food is the right one.
i have a friend who was a vegan for 4 y. and now she had leukemia....
everyone will get sick ay some point in life because our environment is very bad ...and nothing is good any more.
Do you and others will do them! 😉
How can someone with a PHD in nutrition eat a carnivore diet?! Where's he got that phd from? 😂
I know right. It's baffling how many "academics" are completely ignorant when it comes to looking for studies and evaluating them.
@@randomgal269 Could be he just wanted to experiment to make content and then discredit it. Who knows.
You should at the thousands of good results and you'll understand why. There are actually more exvegan people switching to carnivore than the other way around.
@@palmajavier and million failures lol, carnivore diet is idiotic and unhealthy
@@randomgal269 Who funds the studies?
Excellent content. I missed this ex carnivore trend. Love it!
A lot of those people are not ex-carnivore lol
Whole food plant based diet, for the win! ✌️🍉
👍🙂🌱 As a near 15 year vegan I genuinely believe that.
Then I go shopping and see the Spicy/Sweet Chili Doritos. Goes great with Tofurkey Italian sausage. ☹️
The WEF loves plebs like you.
@@EngineersQuest You fall for the slopp, grats.
@@bigmambahful Yup. It's been awhile though. I can admit my faults and correct them.
Lillie Kane is absolutely insane. Although she "quit" carnivore she still eats mostly carnivore. Hope you will cover her more.
I remember when non-starchy vegetables got the thumbs-up from every dietary faction, even the low carb faction. Only the carnivore faction insists that vegetables are unhealthy, and nutrients like dietary fiber and Vitamin C are unnecessary.
I don't want to know how nasty the constipation is on a carnivore diet. I've learned to stop at a store to buy fruits and vegetables when I travel, because there's no way I can consume enough from restaurant foods. Being deficient in fiber gives me nasty constipation.
If you are on carnivore diet for a longer period of time, your intestines get used to it. Also you are forgetting how easy it is to take tasteless powered fiber that you can add to any drink , even water, and you can't tell it is in there. I was on carnivore for about a year like 6 or 7 years back, and had no constipation issues whatsoever (AND I was on opioids at the exact same time due to chronic pain issues)
There are chemicals in plants called anti-nutrients, Sally K. Norton wrote "Toxic Superfoods" about the poison called Oxalate which is in spinach, black pepper, soy, raspberries, almonds, etc. Thes compounds block mineral absorption and deposit irritatin compounds in body tissuesthat cab cause disease, like gout and kidney stones.
@@rdizzy1Your intestines and gut microbiome "get used to" fibre a lot easier bro...
Have absolutely no issues with constipation… I had constipation when I was eating fibers.
@@JappaKneads No, they don't. It takes a lot of time for any change. And when you are on carnivore for a decent amount of time, adding real plant fiber back into the diet can cause quite a lot of horrible symptoms, for many people. (Which even include constipation) The entire make up of microbes in your intestines changes on any long term diet. (These microbes heavily effect anything involved, like intestinal motility for example, or how much gas is produced, what ends up making it through undigested or what gets fully broken down, etc)
Which is why the mass majority of people on carnivore diets don't have constipation issues, strangely, yet they consume very very little dietary fiber.
A vegan taking about a cult 🤦😂 Please now do a video on the TONS of ex vegans and all their issues in the diet.
After switching to vegetarian then vegan diet my brain fog dissipated in a couple of weeks. I'm a teacher and I was having serious memory lapses before changing diet. I was really worried..... Can't be a teacher and have a bad memory.... Also, my skin went from bumpy, broken out to smooth, chest pains went away, took off weight, ....
Butter, cream cheeses and full fat cream are recommended on the carnivore diet.
Just maybe, consuming large amounts of progesterone and oestrogen on the carnivore diet in these dairy products isn’t good for testosterone levels in men who follow this kind of diet?
But soy in huge amounts is fine right?
@@Pabz2030 Mic has a video on soy I think you should check it out
@@Pabz2030 Yes.
At least if we trust the best sources of knowledge available at the moment. Of course it depends on what you count as "large amounts". There's a "too much" for everything.
Soy has a big carbon footprint for many as well! Vegans forget the effort that goes into some of the food they eat! My goal is to try to eat food as local to me as possible so that means no veganism for me which in turn means my B12 and other vitamin levels are good 😊 I live in Wales which means we grow pretty much all of the food I need to eat...
@@welshjon84 Welsh lamb has one of the lowest carbon footprints for red meat. 11 to 16 kg of carbon dioxide per kg of meat, the global average being 37kg. For soybeans it is 0.36kg of carbon dioxide at point of production and can be as high as 6.5 kg by the time some processed soy products hit the shelves of supermarkets. Even welsh lamb at point of sale is 3 or 4 times that figure when transport and processing costs are factored in.
I'm convinced the meat industry are spending some of their advertising budget on promoting some of the more high profile "influencers". It would be great for their bottom line as every person going on the carnivore diet would probably triple the amount of meat they bought a week. It happens across the spectrum with other products. I.e: Promote this dietary supplement, bike brand, shoe brand etc etc and we'll give you "x" dollars per video. So why not with meat etc? Makes perfect sense. Why wouldn't they do it? This is where u get all the vegan hate, plants are poison and are the causes of all sickness, just eat meat and you'll be superman/woman. All of which drives meat industry sales. But they've pushed too far and it looks like people are waking up and its potentially blowing up in their faces imo. But yes as a just turned 30yr long vegan I'm biased ;)
very true, people like Bart Kay have admitted taking money and what about that Nina Teicholz (sp) she’s taken millions, total shill
Exactly, they counter vegan by heavily supporting carnivore and constipation...
haha i've said the same thing
Yes, I believe they will do anything to keep their
customers. The BIGGEST threat to them is veganism telling the truth, so what better way to kill more gentle animals than convincing humans that plants are bad and you can eat 2-4 pounds of corpse every day and be healthy. cheers.
Honey, me for over 30 years, never regretted it.
7:54 I laughed so hard! 🤣🤣🤣 You're brilliant!! 💚
I know someone that did it for a few months.... they got gout.
Well deserved
Your video, like many others by prominent RUclipsrs, can be misleading. For instance, Lily never completely abandoned the carnivore diet; she simply incorporated some fruits, which is a common adjustment. Moreover, it seems you've selectively cherry-picked information to fit your narrative, leaving out crucial parts of the examples used and failing to provide viewers with the full story.
I don't advocate for any specific diet, but the key element missing here is that both extreme diets-carnivore and vegetarian-can be effective because they eliminate seed oils, processed foods, sugar and other harmful substances often found in supermarket products. I've personally been on a carnivore diet for quite some time now, and the results have been remarkable. In less than six months, my health issues, which had plagued me into my mid-50s, disappeared. While my diet mainly consists of meat, I do occasionally incorporate fruits and low-sugar vegetables.
It's important to acknowledge that there's no one-size-fits-all approach when it comes to diets. It's crucial to experiment and find what works best for you as an individual. I recommend trying both diets for at least a year, regularly monitoring your health with blood tests every three months. This way, you can determine which approach suits you best.
It's worth noting that many RUclips influencers prioritize profit over providing accurate health information. However, it's reassuring to know that several prominent carnivore influencers are actual doctors with years of experience in human medicine. They base their recommendations on extensive research and practical experience, rather than simply aiming to maximize their earnings.
The discussion surrounding the woman who suffered a stroke while on the carnivore diet is also rife with misinterpretation. It's important to recognize that the development of arterial blockages leading to strokes or heart attacks typically requires decades of poor dietary habits and unhealthy lifestyle choices. We must consider several crucial factors before drawing conclusions. Do we have information about how long she adhered to the carnivore diet? What were her dietary habits and lifestyle like prior to adopting this approach? Was she perhaps a vegetarian before transitioning to the carnivore diet?
Regrettably, these significant aspects are often overlooked or omitted from discussions. Even if the woman had provided this information, it seems that these critical details were overlooked in your video. Additionally, the woman in question is in her 50s, implying that she likely did not consume a meat-centric diet throughout her entire life. It's plausible that her time on the carnivore diet comprised only a fraction of her 50 years.
Furthermore, it's essential to consider other lifestyle factors such as smoking and alcohol consumption, which can significantly impact cardiovascular health. Rather than solely attributing the stroke to her carnivore diet, we should explore these broader questions to gain a more comprehensive understanding of her situation. Simply showcasing the effects she believes were caused by her diet without addressing these critical contextual factors does a disservice to viewers seeking accurate information.
This guy is unwell. He does this every single time. Biased as hell.
I think there is enough evidence that animal agriculture has a huge environmental impact plus causes the suffering of millions of animals.Why don't you try to be a bit more balanced in your dietary choice instead of this selfish way of living. I find all these carnivore doctors, bloggers never mention the suffering they indirectly cause, because they don't care. For me the emphasis is compassion,isn't that the most important quality a human can have ?
Very true and well said. I had just stumbled on this channel today and have watched a few of the other videos mentioned in Mic's video here and was confused because a few of those videos are still following Carnivore and made minor or temporary adjustments overall. It's difficult to appreciate the wealth of information people across this platform can *seem* to have when the info becomes hard narrative driven; instead of humble and honest approached.
@@chrishourigan3276 And whats about the millions of insects and little animals which get "murdered" in veggie agriculture? Do you eat avocado? Your eating style kills thousends too. Just because a insect has not a face like a cow its not worth nothing. To say carnevores are impacting enviroment and causes suffering is nonsense. Stop eating Avocados or other agriculture stuff, that also kills animals and is not environmentally friendly. This is selective outrage and closing the eyes to the truth due to ego. No condemnation for both sides. Killing is sadly unavoidable...
"Lily never completely abandoned the carnivore diet; she simply incorporated some fruits". Absurd. She is no longer carnivore. She is an omnivore at that point.
That is like saying a vegan never really abandoned veganism, they just incorporated some venison...
That might be the best ad bro!!!! Literally laughed out loud 😂😂😂
100%
Points for "I'm scurvy-full" too.
Agreed 😂
Thanks, I had fun making it. Even whipped out the old green screen :)
The same thing happens with vegans and 'Why I'm no longer a vegan' videos. They are both cults
Exact
exactly
Dishonest, misleading video. I don't eat meat btw.
not really, meat eaters are way weirder and defensive about this. deciding to not pay to kill and torture animals is just something you can do
Well... If someone's vegan for non ethical reasons.. it can look really culty.. but when it has an ethical reason... then lemme tell you .. does become very very practical..
Raw diet, piss diet.. water fasts .. they're all "vegan" but are they healthy no
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Mediterranean diet is plant centred but it's really health promoting.. but some might choose to completely eliminate animal products becuz they're against injustice...and wanna stay logically consistent..
Some of the health claims by people can be bizzare and it is rooted in some truth but extremists like freelee should obviously be heavily criticized and actually banned from the internet..
Working on my 7th year of being vegan, best decision I ever made. 60 years old, reversed my heart disease and digestion issues among a long list of other issues that have disappeared. I know you've all heard this before, my only regret is not doing it 40 years ago. I would like to point out I am more than just vegan, I consume no added sugar, salt or fat like olive oil or avocado oil, I also eat no processed or refined foods.
What a coincidence I’m also seventh year, but I am Whole Foods plant-based so it’s a strict healthy form of veganism.
@@RiDankulous yep, same as me WFPBV
It is not veganism but the lack of processed foods and added sugars, etc.
@@jameezybreezy9030 I would agree except I didn’t cut out processed, refined foods, salt, sugar and oil until I had already been vegan for 26 months. At week 8 of going just vegan, before cutting out refined and processed foods, added oil, salt and sugar, my cardiologist cut all of my meds in half and at nine months I was off all Rx medications and most over the counter medications. I still take the occasional Tylenol for pain and a 5mg gummy for sleep when my demons come knocking at 2 AM. I’m a retired combat veteran, always in pain and have a pretty good case of PTSD but it’s getting better. I went from 78% cardiovascular blockage to less than 14% without the use of drugs or surgery/stents.
you will get what GOD already sign for you.... a friend vegan for 4 y now have ....leukemia.....so what about this diet a??? she got cancer, so this diet is crap ....which is true....you gays eat so much chemicals in your ,,plant based food" so please dont make single comment based only on you !
6:02 If carnivore didn't remind you of the raw vegan purity spiral the whole cooked broccoli connection here just really is the chef's kiss.
If you watch Lillie’s video you would see she is still following meatbased diet with 2 pieces of fruit a day. Eating carbs started making her sick again
@@hermonorossco7988😅😅😅😅😅
At least she didn't claim that she just felt how that first piece of broccoli totally revived her in every way.
@@hermonorossco7988 If that's the case she has really ruined her gut.
@@hermonorossco7988 that still isn’t the carnivore diet cus in her video she clearly states animal based because she also says you can’t be carnivore while eating non carnivore foods which is why Paul saladino changed his name to
I can attest when the majority of my diet consisted of meat and eggs, i felt very bad (hard to describe, like my blood wasnt flowing normally, anxiety attacks, heart palpitations?) and my acid reflux was out of control, hickups, just burning throat all the time and constipated. Plant based saved my life.
Is there a reason why you ate tons of meat? even water is toxic in large quantities.
Yeah having a constant case of the meat sweats can't be a good thing.
@@bastianena actually, it's a result of a histamine intolerance, which is typically present in aged meat. did you know that?
@@v.a.n.e. No, it's actually the fear of the animal oozing out of you. Bet you didn't know that.
@@bastianena that's an interesting idea, I've never thought of it that way. your thinking is too advanced.
19:00. Mind. BLOWN. This will revolutionize humanity. If only we had figured this out hundreds of years ago instead of right this second.
Lillie Kane did quit carnivore, but she wasn't fully carnivore beforehand anyways and is basically returning to that despite the health problems it created. At the end of the video, she admits that she's going back to her animal-based diet.
She for sure ain’t carnivore diet anymore no matter how in denial yall are 😂 she is adding back more carbs she just added back sweet potatoes and is adding up towards to 100g of carbs on her leg days , she is basically going the Paul saladino route
@@jeovanniperez3949 Did you not understand what I wrote? I didn't say she is a carnivore. I said she's back on basically the same animal-based diet as she was when she changed her diet due to health problems. Animal-based is not carnivore, just like plant-based isn't vegan. They refer to what the majority of food comes from - animal or plant. Is a vegetarian plant-based? Yes. Is a keto follower animal-based? Depends on WHICH keto diet. You can eat predominantly animal OR plant food on keto and paleo (which is mostly a sham anyways since its "historical" basis has been disproven by scientists in anthropology, archaeology and paleontology)
@@jeovanniperez3949 I just want to add that your efforts to build your muscles are impressive...assuming that's your back in your profile pic.
@@GlennsFastReviews I am vegan to btw lift heavy 5x a week including heavy deadlifting
She said in this vd that she eats less red meat and more turkey/chicken (due to high iron), dairy and some fruit. So she is basically meat based with fruit and maybe occasionally broccoli.
I'm not vegan or anything, but I just feel better overall when the majority of my foods come from veggies and fruit. More energy, better sleep, better mood .. less weight
Im so happy fit over 50 realized the risk she was putting herself in- and is now plant-based, yay!! 💓🙏🌷
Who is plant based? She says at the end of the video that she is back to animal based.
@@jeanettenejadi1777They are talking about fit over 50. She is no longer carnivore and is now plant based. Not talking about Lillie Kane.
This diet attracts people that need extremes.
And veganism is not extreme?
@flugmodus9214 compare the list of foods a strict vegan can eat to a list of foods a strict carnivore can eat.
Well it's pretty common with these people to go from restricted vegan to carnivore.
@@flugmodus9214 No, veganism is not extreme. Killing animals for no reason is extreme.
@@carinaekstrom1 nourishing yourself and your family is not “no reason”.
Making a statement like that indicates a detachment from reality of how food is produced and how it reaches your plate….especially city people ….living in concrete jungles claiming to “know” what’s good for the environment is quite absurd.
Did you know you kill way many more animals as a vegan whether you buy mono cropped produce or you produce in your back yard? That is something you might not be aware of and can look into.
And then ofcourse there are the hypocrites that know this, but have decided for some reason that some animals are ok to kill(because they are not as cute? Or as big?) ….i don’t see how one can make the argument that “I don’t eat meat because I don’t want to kill animals” and at the same time be aware how many thousands of animals of many different species are being abolished to produce vegan food, and yet claim eating cows, pigs and chickens is bad….
And please don’t regurgitate the argument “those monocrops are used to feed animals”…..bcs I have found no evidence of that, you might like to provide some.
I do however see an increasing amount of veggie “burgers” veggie “steaks” veggie “cheese” and so on….
Eating meat can be done humanly and sustainably, it does not have to be meat factories. It’s also inhuman to starve people, bcs veganism is chronic starvation. There is a reason why overlords fed grain to the slaves and not meat. It keeps you fed just enough to work, but not enough to feed the brain so that you get any ideas of revolution. Look it up, it’s called history.
P.S. I was vegan once. I understand the good intentions behind it.
People that eat carnivore without animal ehtics are doomed to believe what they are doing is for their health. I don't eat animals for ehtical reasons, if it's good for me all the better.
I do eat animals. For ethical reasons.
Washing your hair with egg yolks and tallow 🤢. What? Lol
Just completely insаnе heartless wасkаdооdlеs
I remember adding an egg yolk to my shampoo once after I was told it was so good for your hair. The lingering smell!
@@thatsalt1560 I can understand the yolk (although not ethical), but the fat from animal corpses! Yayks!
Like the Victorians!
They solve every problem with tallow, I read that some of them use tallow as moisturizer.
You are just talking clips from videos without any context to further your vegan agenda. I have seen a lot more people going from vegan to carnivore than from carnivore to vegan. You are ridiculous.
Yes this was one of his most misleading videos i have seen, and he has done so many misleading ones
Thanks for posting this. I cringe with the whole carnivore movement and I especially cringe when they make the case that plants are trying to kill us.
I'm not aware of any carnivorous plants that eat humans. Carnivorous animals, on the other hand... 😄
@@xlntnrg what about that plant in that Steve Martin movie? "Feed me, Seymour!".... LoLs.
How can a PhD in nutrition like Marc Morris can even try carnivore diet in the first place while thinking it is good for health????
Because other people come to different conclusions than you and are open minded to experiment
@@alex_4trth You call it being open minded. I call it complete ignorance of basic understanding in nutrition.
Imagine this guy giving advice to people. He should be revoked.
What this youtuber wants??? Who is he trying to deceive??? I just saw 2 segments from videos from carnivore people that are out of context. Meaning for instance at 0.34 the woman is saying she got a stroke after gone carnivore but hey! when she says she believes carnivore saved her life that is not shown here, she knows the stroke was coming because the way she used to eat BEFORE carnivore. I was never vegan I'm not carnivore either but please people be honest. This is not a competition!!! You wanna be either one, go for it!! uJst don't deceive people!! Yu don't need to lie!! Don't lie!! Mic the vegan you are been dishonest whit this information!!
I've tried the carnivore diet twice and it makes me so sick!! Never again!! Besides vegetables are so colorful, beautiful to look at and delicious! Luv my veggies 😊
It's so cute to see these carnivore gurus learning things.
Im not carnivore. When you watch "Why i quit being vegan," the comments are filled with vitriol. "You did it wrong," etc. Most people have problems eventually with extreme elimination diets.
@dyldabeast9176 It is an elimination diet. Veganism is a relatively new phenomenon. We've been omnivores almost our entire human existence. Any diet that requires supplementation (b12, vitamin c, etc) is not ideal. Both extremes, when done for long enough, will cause problems.
There are plenty of animal products that do not inherently require suffering or exploitation.
However, I know you'll disagree as an ethical vegan.
It's not elimination as appropriately planned (all healthful diets are) vegan diets are backed by global nutritional bodies as "healthful for ALL life stages"
Meaning all nutrients can be obtained. Many go on to say promote health benefits and lower all-cause mortality or ... insert lifestyle disease of choice here.
British dietetic, Australian dietetics, heart foundation, diabetes association, Canadian dietetics, Swedish, UK-NHS, oxford, Harvard, Cleveland clinic and on and on and on. Literally dozens and dozens of health bodies have given their "stance"
It's global consensus at this stage.
Well planned vegan IS healthful and can promote health.
I think I’ll listen to the experts as opposed to those suffering from Dunning-Kruger effect
@@thatguy1729 "There are plenty of animal products that do not inherently require suffering or exploitation"
name one
@@thatguy1729 In other words meat and dairy are not a requirement of good health. (100+ year old adventists and jains prove this) Normal, natural and necessary just doesn't cut it. Carnism (which you just demonstrated) that underpins your belief system is just conditioned ideology.
ALL nutrients in meat, come firstly from plants or bacteria.
@@thatguy1729 You do realise that B12 is a bacteria found in the soil and waterways right? Some ruminants make their own but only with the adaquate mineral cobalt (Also found in soil/dirt), which unfortunately is depleted the same as b12 these days.
Majority of livestock are supplemented with b12 or it's pre curser cobalt (cobalamin).
"Cobalt deficiency can be prevented by a range of
cobalt supplements-drenches, licks, foliar sprays
and fertiliser top-dressing, as well as pellets and
vitamin B12 injections. Vitamin B12 is only
syrithesised from dietary cobalt in the rumen and is
poorly absorbed. Therefore, animals require regular
and frequent oral dosing with cobalt to satisfy their
(33) vitamin B12 requirements and drenches must be
administered weekly or at most fortnightly to be
completely effective."
SOURCE: Agriculture VIctoria trace element vic pastures 6. cobalt/B12
but drenches and b12 or cobalt supplementation is standard practice of intense farming globally.
In other words supplementation of the animal so humans don't have to.
Sounds counter productive to me.
She ate sweet potatoes for at least 2 years during that time.
Word of the day (just saying, you carnivores...): Grifters, most of them...
If it wasn't for my vegan diet, I can assure you I wouldn't be here today!
Also, of course, vegan for the Animals and our planet.
I heard of a lot of these folks back in 2019/2020 when I followed a lot of fitness influencers. I stopped following them because they mocked veganism but mainly cause they revealed themselves to be Covid-denying, MAGAts. Glad they came to their senses in at least one way.
As always, a balanced diet is best.
I hope that this is the beginning of the end of the carnivore fad. I hope it soon gets thrown onto the scrap heap of dietary history, just like the Cabbage Soup Diet.
Cabbage is good for the liver. I speak from experience.
@@ursulasmith6402 Cabbage is healthy. The cabbage soup wasn't what made this diet a dangerous fad. It was the lack of other foods. In other words, it was just a glorified crash diet.
Keep wishing. We have been eating meat for over 2 million years. It is the vegan diet that is a fad.
Look at the Google search trend. Interest in the carnivore diet has literally never been higher. Whether you want it to or not, carnivore diet isn't going away any time soon.
There's a lot of money to be made from promoting carnivore diets, And a lot of industry money available for 'research'.
Then there are all those people who just want someone who calls themself
"Dr" to tell them that eating steak, bacon amd butter is healthy. Such people are often happy to believe that guidelines and the underpinning scientific evidence about diet and health are merely 'dogma'.
As well, there are the conspiracy theorists who claim hat all the evidence on diet and health is fabricated. And let's not forget all the geniuses who believe ha the entire human race lived almost entiely on meat throughout the Paleolithic period and that this means meat must e the natural/optimum human diet!
It's the unthinking led by the unscrupulous. So I don't think it will disappear entirely.
So France is a carnivore capital and it's the best place to have a stroke. They have it down from the transport to speciality equipped clinics ... fatty, rich, meaty foods ...and cigarettes. ... se la vie.
You will own nothing and be happy
Much like the "I'm Leaving or " videos, clearly they are popular. Why I am continuing with Carnivore video would get 3 views, why I am ditching it will get 200K at least. Negative videos seem to always get clicks (thanks to the YT algorithm)
I'm currently making a video on her. I've made a couple videos about her in the past. She lies all the time.
Dr. Ken Berry will be disappointed.
😳😬
who seriously could consider a carnivore diet to be healthy? lol
Peterson and his daughter
I agree that it’s depressing that none of these people quit because of the environment or animal suffering or communicable disease risk of animal farming. Or that you can feed more humans on plants than animals. It’s such a myopic view of diet-all focused on just themselves. It’s just sad.
In before the carnivore cultists arrive!
She still eating meat
@@duckman2173 And she's no longer carnivore.
@@victim21
True She Omnivores she even said she eats a lot of meat still
@@duckman2173 The other person in the video went vegan.
@@victim21
For how long
Omnivores must be looking at vegans and carnivore and thinking we’re 2 sides of the same coin because we all know exvegan vids look like this too 😂😂
No, ex-vegan videos do not look like this. They are always very vague. They never show any specific health problems or any blood work.
Never saw a "why I'm not vegan anymore" video saying they quit because they had a stroke.
@@barbaraibielnot true. The most common issues are just not getting enough calories and the eternal bloating.
@@stargazerbird But they don't say that. It is always something vague.
Ex Vegans are vague about "health concerns" because ex vegans dont want to admit the real reason they quit, social pressure.
some of them actually saved their lives - great news for everyone! The best part about this video is: living proofs that cognitive dissonance does not kill neither does admitting to being wrong! Can you imagine?!
Most of them are not in Carnivore diet anymore but not Vegan either, they switched to Animal based diet which is 80-90% animal product if you finish most of the people in the video you'll know this. Still close to carnivore if you ask me.
The portrayal of Lillie Kane is wrong. If you watch her video in full you will see that she went back to mostly meat diet for multiple reasons including increased hunger, acne and gut issues.
im so glad these people quit that diet.Not only bad for the animals but so so bad long term for your health
Off topic but you are the fifth vegan I’ve met that has a asmr account lol idk why so many vegans are also asmr RUclipsrs
I will never understand how anyone can believe eating high saturated fat/extremely high cholesterol all meat diet is healthy.
that's probably because you still have a lot to learn. an all meat diet is not high in saturated fat nor high in cholesterol. try to find online resources that will help you learn more about it.
Because they are stupid
@@v.a.n.e. You are usually amusing in your tween girl cattiness, but this comment is so blatantly untrue, I wonder if you haven't received a closed head injury recently. Poor widdle spider.
@@v.a.n.e. An all meat diet is not high in cholesterol compared to what diet? Has some idiot come up with an ancestral butter diet?
@@v.a.n.e.😂
can we just call a spade a spade?
people spreading carnism and the carnivore diet are ether suffering from psychosis or exploiting people suffering from psychosis for some easy money.
both are awful and i hope they can get the help they need greed.
Yep!
Yes , previously I thought they where stopid , now I'm inclined to think it's more than likely mental illness
Sad for them and the animals .
Nothing wrong with cutting our ultra processed foods and sugar, especially when trying to lose weight. But to eat only red meat seems a bit too strong a direction.
I'm sure big agra that has trillions invested in monocrops and plant based foods that end up destroying vast tracts of ecosystems are the good guys, amiright?
No.
Now do Vegan videos. You'll find way more people quit vegan.
Agree with most things you're saying, but "Covid has been gone for a while" 06:29 - is just not true. It hasn't gone anywhere, people are still dying and getting disabled from it daily and post-viral issues are running rampant, plus the immense numbers predicted by science regarding Long Covid cases over the next decades are insane. Please don't dismiss these scientific facts while you're so on point regarding other issues. Looking forward to the Long Covid video that I read you're working on! 👍🏻Thanks from Europe.
So true, @MictheVegan the covid pandemic is not over, very far from it. the World Health Organization has only lifted its PHEIC status, but has never called the pandemic over. Maria Van Kerkhove (her tweet on December 31st 2023) announced that we are in the fifth year of the pandemic.
I expect a lot better from you Mic, especially considering that you studied Public Health, this should be the basics for you. Stay up to date with actual data and not politicized PSAs.
As the nutritional arguments for animal products fade away, the moral arguments for animal exploitation become malevolent.
There are so many "tradition" arguments ingrained in people. They think every homestead or farm needs animals to be a proper farm, for instance.
good sentence! those false health benefits were the cloack that hide the dagger
It doesn't fade away. Meat is essential for longevity and survival. This is why vegans are all deficient and unhealthy
the nutrition arguments for animal products are not fading away because some people think they should only eat that...
By going vegan, you r also destroying the planet...
I don't know why many guys complain about their test getting low when it is above 500. Mine is always in the low to mid 400's and I feel fine and perform quite well for my age as a cyclist. The "normal" range is quite large: 300 to 1000.
Test of what?
@@DutchmanAmsterdam test 'o' sterone
@@DutchmanAmsterdam testostersone.
Wasn't the issue that the guy in the video's test levels almost halved? Wouldn't that be a cause for concern?
I just turned 72 and have been carnivore almost 2 years. My blood work last month showed my testotesrone was 802.
Carnivore person; “yeah, I’m carnivore because someone on TikTok told me it was the way to go”
Normal person; “hmmmm…righto”
Same with veganism
Many doctors like Ken Berry, Jason Fung advocate it
unlike... vegans ...?
Most that I know do it because they're trying to heal the damage veganism did to them.
@@bushpig6837 The carnivore diet (also called a zero carb diet) is a high-protein fad diet in which only animal products such as meat, eggs, and dairy are consumed.
The carnivore diet is associated with pseudoscientific health claims.
Turns out, carnivore is the beta male diet. LOL the irony of life.
I have been waiting for this movement to implode.
These people have to learn the hard way apparently because dietary guidelines and doctor recommendations are a huge "conspiracy"
I bet the true believe Trump won .
It really is so dumb. They go from pigging out on fast food to the carnivore diet and saying “the food pyramid is a lie.”
General doctors only get the equivalent of 3-4 weeks training on the human diet. Doctors are paid to push pills, and do surgeries, nothing more
it is like the bleach you needed to inject to get rid of COVID.... it looks more and more like natural selection to me.
You mean those doctors who would prescribe smoking cigarettes decades ago? You mean doctors who would tell you to eat bread ? :D or the ones who tell you to get Covid jab?
I love how you've been adding back in more skits and jokes!
I'm to scurvy for my body, to scurvy for my body, to scurvy to admit!
Eaten animal souls are taking a revenge on people who ate them. 🙂
Animals don't have souls and meat eaters live the longest.
@@GarudaLegends proof please
Google "oldest ppl to live", if you are uneducated. Non of them are vegan. All vegans are unhealthy and deficient.
@@AgyatTatva Google "oldest ppl to live", if you are uneducated. Non of them are vegan. All vegans are unhealthy and deficient.
@@AgyatTatva Hong Kong
I was never carnivore but very strict keto. 2 years and cholesterol went sky high! Decided to go to Mediterranean/plant based! Much better! Blood values great now!!
"Mediterranean" is utter BS. How do I know? I live on the Mediterranean and we eat meat every single meal.
@@pdblouin It was never a plant based diet. The diet around the Mediterranean has always been based on a lot of seafood, a lot of locally hunted/farmed meat, locally produced dairy - particularly from goats - and some locally grown fruit and nuts (mostly almonds, citrus and olives) and some short grain "paella" rices. Modern vegetables such as brassicas are a recent introduction and are mostly grown to be sold to foreign markets
I think Jordan Peterson, and his massive influence, with his daughter, have had a great deal to do with the popularity of this diet. Just because a person is an expert in one field, does not make them more knowledgable than the average person about diets. With her TED talk, and how it cured all her ailments, and his huge influence, they have inadvertently cost people their health, and their lives.
Jordan loves a word salad
@@dj.h7424😁 My issue with him and his daughter is that they have a lot of influence. I personally think they would have the intelligence to supplement, but that is not what they are telling their followers. I personally think even if they stopped, they wouldn't advertise it. I hope I'm wrong. What they are doing is perpetuating a recipe for disaster. I really hope this dangerous fad comes to an end now. 💕
Dunning-kruger is alive and well with Peterson
I don't know what you mean. J. Peterson, and his daughter would know to supplement with vitamin C, etc. A lot of people, until they get scurvy wouldn't. He should inform people, as well as his daughter, that you can't just live on meat.
A cucumber makes her sick, but plastic surgery, botox and hard alcohol is just fine.
she didn't quit carnivore. she has a dandruff skin issue thing so she experimented with adding plants for several weeks to see if it fixed it. it didn't fix it, and it caused multiple other health conditions, so she went back to carnivore, fixing the new health conditions, but still having the dandruff
Some claim that dandruff is from too much protein (body tries to get rid of it that way).
This video is dishonest and misleading. Cherry picked parts of the Lillie Kane video. She is actually still on a meat based diet with a little fruit. Her video title is just clickbait.
Yes, I completely agree that this guy is misleading and doesn't give all the information from the videos. Cherrypicking parts of it.
For the Lilly Kane video I have watched in full, and she is on a mainly carnivore diet still with some fruit. Not sure about the veg tbh I would have to have another look at the video . Worth watching the whole video though.
Also the James blunt video MIc the Vegan isn't being truthful about it , as the video I watched James blunt said that he had visited the doctor after trying the carnivore diet for several weeks and was low in vitamin C . And could develop Scurvy, not that he had full blown scurvy which MIc the vegan eludes to So James Blunt then decided to have 1 litre of Orange juice a night and then was expierncing acid reflux.
This means that I cannot trust this guy because I don't think he is being fully honest. And there is alot of attacking energy of people who are genuinely trying to find out what is best nutrients for themselves ,. Which is difficult to do . J
Dairy consumption increases breast cancer.
Dairy is full of the hormone estradiol because the dairy cow is milked while it is pregnant and it has been measured in the milk. The 7th day Adventists are often studied because they are health conscious, don’t drink alcohol or smoke, and eagerly participate in studies. ADVENTIST HEALTH STUDY 2 showed the more milk the Adventists consumed the higher the breast cancer. This study was confirmed by a study in China, CHINA KADOORIE BIOBANK STUDY. The Conclusion: The more dairy you consume the higher your breast cancer risk. ¼ cup/day of milk increases breast cancer risk by 17%.
I still remembered as a child reading how the Vietcongs can detect American soldiers far downwind, their BO from meat consumption.
whatt? I live with a 100% vegan for 3+ years who does daily morning workouts in the loungeroom and I can tell you that BO is very strong, just as strong and bad as anyone's BO.
Sounds made up.
@@zakblue Yeah, not only that, but anecdotal testimonies from carnivores and their partners very consistently indicate that body odor seems to resolve or outright disappear after going carnivore. I'm actually curious if the same is true for basic Ketogenic dieters as well.
Since I went an animal based diet my BO has gone. I don't need to use deodorants anymore.
@@twinny12009 Same here. My teeth stay really clean, too.
3 years Keto. High LDL. Dr wanted me on statins. BP dangerously high at 185/95. Sure, I lost weight-15 kilos! But it was mostly water/muscle mass.
Went on the Penn Jillette potato reset. Then WFPB. WOW! LDL plummeted, BP tumbled, visceral fat lost (about a kilo) and I have all my old energy levels back. Not a carnivore anecdote, but relevant. ❤️🙏
Did you eat a lot of vegetables when you were on Keto? It is very confusing. I see others who are very sick with high BP near death and totally recovered with Carnivore. I think it depends on individual
@@danpan001 30 grams of low glycemic carbohydrate is the mandated maximum for Keto. You should know this.
@@danpan001 I think it depends mostly on how much weight they lost.
@@carinaekstrom1 well I dropped my weight from 210 to 170 lbs on vegetarian diet according to Dr. McDougal but my fatty liver became severe. So I am on Carnivore now
@@danpan001 The first part sounds extremely unlikely, unless you lost weight so fast it damaged your liver. Or you caused some other damage that you are not disclosing.
The ad... Lmao 🤣
That was quite entertaining. Wasn't even tempted to skip.
Oh yeah, a hoot, totally 🤣
I went keto then carnivore and got a horrible virus. I hadn't been sick for two years. It took over 3 werks to get well and it wasn't covid. I have never this sick this long. I also had problems healing cuts and scab for weeks. After getting sick my gallbladder acted up and constipation. I also felt horrible and lethargic. So I went back on carbs and felt amazing. I did give up caffeine which helped my anxiety. I am not vegan. I know whole food is the best. I don't eat grain or dairy because I have celiacs and hashimoto's. I feel better. I listened to lots of carnivore youtubes that it helped their autoimmune, anxiety, gut issues and depression. I can't say it helped me. I wanted to work.
I gave up caffeine and it helped me become a calmer person.
@HimansaGeethmi I have gallbladder and liver issues still have pain. Going to a specialist.
For one, Lilly is a Ketovore she didn't give up on meat. Matter of fact she eats mainly meat. With one or two pieces of fruit a day and a little greens as a side dish. And I know this because I follow her and I do the same diet. Enjoy your plant toxins. And there are a lot of people that have been healed from a carnivore diet that I know personally and from online.
This super misleading. I just checked out Lillie Kane's video and she has gone from carnivore to an 'animal-based diet'...
I gotta say, as someone who has been both vegan and carnivore, carnivore is 100x better, no exaggeration. Plus veganism makes absolutely no sense from an evolutionary biology perspective. You think hunter-gatherers were going around sampling 20-30 different plants a day trying to stay alive and get enough protein, or killing one large mammal and feeding a group for a week? Everywhere humans have gone they have decimated the large mammal populations, why? Think it through guys...
I don't know why so many people on the Internet dislike broccoli. For me, it's one of the most delicious vegetables. I think it depends on the cooking process.
Me too!! I love broccoli and brussel sprouts!! 😄
It's even better when it's raw, chopped up and put in a salad or used instead of cabbage in a 'slaw'. Amazing.
scurvyful 🤣
When you live your life like a fad
The lady who goes from carnivore to whole-food plant-based.... Jesus lady, get a hobby
When I was a vegan I felt healthier than I ever have in my life. The only thing is that I crave meat. I miss feeling so pure though. Now I’m starting carnivore.
She now did a video where she (Lilie ruclips.net/video/89eFJFsvmMc/видео.html) measured her heart health parameters now after she ate more fruit and veg and her heart health got worse. Can you please explain it? I am genially confused