Palestinians: Should Israel annex the West Bank?
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Palestinian state is in Jordan, why don't they get Jordanian ID.
no its not jordan
So called "historical Palestine" (the area between Iraq and Egypt) is divided today in 3 parts - 2 countries: Jordan 65%, Israel 30% and some 5% of disputed unpartitioned area). Last 40 years local arabs in this area started to call themselves "Palestinians". Like Chinese living i Siberia will call themselves "Siberians", so they could ask Independent Siberian State.
The first speaker says everything, absolutely well said.. thanks to her (Thumbs up lady)
Exchatly...
She appears very educated and articulate. I wonder if she is in Academia.
SHe's a perpetual victim..
She failed to actually answer the question. The issue is whether Palestinians in the West Bank would be better off as full fledged citizens of Israel with equal rights, freedom to travel, etc. instead answering the question thoughtfully, she rambles and rants about history. Everybody already knows what Palestinians think about the history. But that’s not what the question is asking.
What is the nature of "historic Palestine"? What was it? When?
Both Israelis and Palestinians are opposed to this idea. Can neither of them see that it's perhaps the best solution for equality, stability, security, and peace?
both sides have an unforgiving agenda, that's the entire idea behind the name "The Israeli and Palestinian conflict"
Imagine thinking you understand better the Israeli-Palestinian conflict than either Israelis or palestinians
I agree, I am so sick of people telling us what the right solution is ,with out understanding the complexity and that it is not even a conflict about land.
I would prefered if they had accepted the phill comity , the 1947 u.n particion plan, 1993 oslo accords, 2000 offer of Ehud Barak, or 2008 offer of Ehud Olmert and recpect the oslo agrements (which they aren't). They keep saying time and time again in these videos they want all the land (1948 means all of the land), and until they won't understand we are not going anywhere and they can't make us disappear, peace can never happen. All they need to do is to genioanly agnolige our exsistance. In 1948 they lost the war and lost territory, they need to move on. If they want Judea and Sameria, Gaza strip, and east Jerusalem fine, if not they will forever force us to be enemies.We don't want to be enemies and want no more wars and terror, but they teach their children to hate and kill until they will re-occupy the land, with the help and funding of UNRA, which should be dismanteled for educating children to haterad rather than peace. The conflicylt is all suponsored from the western world tax money that goes to UNRA, you pay for the continuation of the conflict and than come and give us solutions which don't fit the corrent situation.
Before the re-establishment of Israel in 1948, the Arabs who call themselves Palestinians today, did not refer to themselves as Palestinians at all, and people need to know the truth here!!! It was the Jews who were proud Palestinians and used the word Palestine in all their establishments under the British Mandate of Palestine! The Arabs who lived there hated the term "Palestinian" and simply saw themselves as Syrian Arabs, or from any other Arab countries they moved to that land from! They only created their Palestinian national identity after 1948 for the first time in history. I just can't believe people are buying the "Arab Palestinian" lies today. "Palestinian" is NOT a race or ethnicity and they NEVER in history had a sovereign Arab country by the name Palestine, and if they did had one like they claim, where is their documented history in that land??? Who was their first Palestinian king or leader? And no, they have absolutely no connection to the ancient Filistines, who were of Greek origin and not Arabs! All lies! And today they cry to the world that Jews stole Palestine. Their lies boils my blood!!! With all that being said, those Arabs should settle already for what they already managed to get today, stop playing the innocent victims while terrorizing and brutally killing Jews almost every single day for the last 100 years, and build their country alongside Israel. Simple as that.
I love your interviews, I learn so much! Thank you!
Are you sure
The first lady nailed it! What a brave woman!
define bravery?
The relations between Israel and west bank are always hanging on a very delicate balance. All it takes is 1 extremist (on either side) to commit 1 violent act, which tips the scale and leads to military response. The level of trust hangs on by a needle. The only way to peace, in my opinion, is for open-minded dialogue together, to understand each other and learn to respect each other.
nice project, thanks !
I wonder if the first person thought it was colonising when Jordan annexed the West Bank…
Yeah, i guess, she thought so. And she's right in that Israel is colonising Palestine now. Though, i don't agree that generally establishment of Israel was colonizing process.
@@gagikgrigoryan6534 How is it “colonising” when Jews are indigenous to the land? Indigenous people can’t colonise the land they are from.
Its the same people. It's not really colonising when the same people "colonise" you. All those borders between countries like Lebanon, Palestine, Syria, Jordan, Iraq were just lines on a map drawn by the Europeans which just separated people leading to them forming their own national identities like Jordanian.
@@fdama Arabs are from the Arabian Gulf, not the Levant.
The Hashemites got Jordan after being kicked out of Mecca by the Al-Sauds. It is absolutely colonising.
@@deans5086 Modern Arabs are from Arabia, the Levant, and North Afrca. Modern Jews are not indigenous to Palestine.
Thanks for your important work.
Im a Puerto Rican Israeli. Lol I liked that you mentioned Puerto Rico to a Palestinian.
Language rights are important. But just like English Speakers should learn Spanish in School, Hebrew Speakers of Israel should also learn Arabic. If not, sólo la persona que habla dos o más idiomas va a poder entender de que están hablando los demás. ?נכון
Absolutely incorrect - Arab students should learn Hebrew in Israeli schools, and Israeli schools have nothing to do with the arab language. maybe they can optionally teach it, but obviously absolutely not as an obligation.
They live in our country, we don't live in theirs.
@@yonishachar1887 Arabic Palestinians: lineage that goes back hundreds of years that strongly connects them to this land.
You (second or third generation): that's my country.
English speakers should not have to learn Spanish. Maybe it's a good idea to learn another language as an elective, but it shouldn't be mandatory. Me entiendes? Si tu vives en los estados unidos, necesitas hablar inglez. Son los estados unidos de America, no los estados unidos de Mexico, o El Salvador.
Not so important today with google translate
For a start, the more languages one is able to speak, to read, to understand, the better. Why not? Learning a second language, no matter what it is, is good for the brain and what better language to learn than the one most commonly spoken where one lives? Hence Spanish in the US, Welsh and Scottish Gaelic/ Irish Gaeilge in the UK, Arabic in Israel and Hebrew in Palestine. Seriously: how can people in conflict understand each other without understanding each other? The fact that there's already an underlying mistrust can only be made worse when there's a language barrier.
Arabs have no historical claim on the Land of Israel prior to 640 AD. Islam did not become the majority religion of Palestine until at least the 9th century and possibly even as late as the Mamluk era (1250-1516). The Islamization of Palestine was a long process that included immigration of Muslim Arabs, as well as other Muslims, from other regions as well as conversion to Islam by some of the indigenous Christian, Samaritan and the Jewish population of the area.
they are not indigenous palestinians though. they speak arabic and have arab traditions and religion.
This proves otherwise. www.un.org/esa/socdev/unpfii/documents/5session_factsheet1.pdf
Well I do think the Askenazi Israelis have DNA from semetic area.
Israelis speak Hebrew and practice judaism like their ancestors once did.
Most Palestinian Arabs speak the language from Arabia and practice an arab religion, who invaded in the 7th century.
Free Kurdistan.
I can't stand these Palestinian deniers. Just makes colonisation of the West Bank easier.
DrPanetto54 you are wrong Filistine is Palestine in Arabic/Aramaic...like Jesus...Jews have no claim to that land in the first place
If by "West bank" you mean Judea and Samaria ,then yes.funny how easily the Arabs lie about Israel occupaying A Palestinian state that never existed from a people who never existed before 1967.Fact ,Pals never ruled anything .
So they lived there for 1000s of years but never ruled.
They certainly were ruled by other peoples like turks peninsula arabs Egyptians etc
0:55 woman could be any Mizrahi or Ashkenazi woman, but because she is light-skinned Arabic speaker, nobody equates her pale skin with a lack of indigeneity to the Shami region
@CrossWood Productions People of the coast of the Mediterranean are much lighter then inland Arab who are situated more "North" so this is not so simple...
@CrossWood Productions You tell me I live next to them lol
@CrossWood Productions You study what?
CrossWood Productions Arabs are Caucasian. Caucasian is a race or to be more specific skeletal figure. White skin does not mean Caucasian, that is the stupidest thing I’ve heard.
Zionists also like to say that all arabs are from the arabian peninsula. Doesnt this statement contradict that?
"currently there are many laws that differe palestinians and israelis in israel....I can't remember any of them"
Screenfreak Productions lol
j senor this is false and not based on "racist laws." also I am commenting on the fact that he could give justification to his previous statement
j senor because they aren't Israelis citizens. you need to be a citizen to vote
Go to the Adalah website and they will break down over 50 Israeli laws that specifically discriminates against Palestino Israeli citizens ........here, you may learn a thing or too about the institutionalized discrimination in the State Of Israel. www.adalah.org/en/content/index/2003
Comedy gold.
don't forget Jews lived under segregation and Islamic lands sure sure sure it was usually better than in Christian lands but that's not saying much sure sure sure they didn't have a holocaust but that's not saying much Jews lived under segregation Islamic lands for over a thousand years
It should be two states but one country ....they need each other alot more than they think and God will show both of them why.
It's not a Corey-Gil Shuster vid without @LiberateAmericaFromIsrael showing up to troll everyone.
when will america send that loser back to the shithole he crawled from?
i hope he pay taxes :D
It's interesting how, after watching many many of these videos, Palestinians and Israelis generally appear to not be nearly as extreme in their opinions as their official spokespeople.
what are you talking about? complite the oppsite. not even one (!) palastinian recognize the moral right of israel on its land (of 1948)! they dont accept us here in any border. im amazed.
@@jony22555 What are a bunch of Russian and German Jews doing in Palestine in 1948?
@@jayqueue6784 Returning home. To the birthplace of Jewish culture and identity.
@MRLEBOZ1 It's a Jordanian territory, gained by a defensive war. And apparently, the Jordanians don't want it back.
The local population, who had no problem with any Arab Muslim rule, suddenly decided they want a state of their own, after refusing before. Since the very beginning, they try to acquire it by acts of violence. Not once did they attempt a peaceful solution in which we could have been good neighbors. They always focus on gaining more before they have anything.
Nothing immoral about defending yourself from a hostile population in your own territory, especially since almost no one gets killed because of the conflict in the west bank, only those who try to kill others, maybe one stabber a month.
Typical, even in the US. The politicians accentuated all the differences and make drama. And the people are closer than you think. But, divide and conquer. The kleptocrats would be thrown out of the people got together.
All the questiones to the Palestinians are not fair because they can't say anything against the Palestinian authority which oppresses them, they don't have freedom of speech at the west bank or Gaza under Hamas, except when it comes to talk about the Israeli military occupation in the west bank, on that topic they have complete freedom of speech and strangly enought are not in danger for saying whatever they think. (As long as they don't say that they have intentions to kill jews)
So to accpect them to say what they really think on sevral topics here is ridiculous
Corey was trying to ask Palestinian Christians to see if any would say Yes. Didn't work...
From watching the videos it seems the Palestinian Christians are less anti-Semitic than Palestinian Muslims.
They are scared of Muslims
Arabs calling people colonizers is just rich.😅
The state that the first interviewed mentioned is Israel. It has Jews and Arabs together.
"Raise their children on false beliefs and to hate us"...So much projection lol.
it happens on both sides.
It happens yes, but in Palestine this kind of stuff is taught in schools on state level and is considered quite normal.
and you guys aren't hating on them right now. fuck outta here hypocrites
@@bingow you dont know shit. Is that type of person that thinks that know how the things works. The truth is that israeli kids are as much doutrined as palestinians kids. You just cant see it because this doutrination style has its roots covered in patriotism and the false thought of free speach. They claim to be democratic but they Aren't. Exemples of what i'm saying is in simple things like israeli streets and avenues names. The people that they honor made awful things in the past, including assassination of civilians in Palestinians villages. Google "bulldozer president" they love him. In the education matter, they doutrination is covered in the admiration and trust in the army. The kids go to military bases as "pleasant school visitations" there they can sign missiles that will be used in Gaza. There are lots of photos.. and there are people that want to kill every single Palestinian. You can find photos of these people too. And in the parliamentary you will hear about politicians that wants to kill palestinians mothers and sons burned alive.
Stop being "too smart" and maybe you will understand how things really works.
Excellent!
Good job!
7:44 Yeah. Also, before 1948, there was no Palestine either.
Only Palestine was not a sovereign state, but simply a name that the British gave (taken from the Bible) to a territory it was given as a mandate.
As a matter of fact, up until Israel was established in 1948 (if not afterwards), the term "Palestinian" only referred to people living in the land that is now Israel - only after Israel was established, did local Arabs turn it into a name of a people and claim that's what they were.
What connects Jews from Israel is the fact that they originated from the Israelites who lived in Israel 3000 years ago. Those who call themselves Palestinians nowadays don't have anything in common apart from being Arabs who are descendants of Arabs who moved into the West Bank. The Arabs living now in the West Bank who call themselves "Palestinians" and think of themselves as occupied, have nothing in common except for the fact that they all live here. They are all descendants of Jordanians, Egyptians, Lebanese, and others.
Of course, Jews in Israel are also descendants of people who are originally from Europe and Arab states (mostly); however, they moved here and are considered a people because they actually were originally here. Arabs, NOT Palestinians, are a people (a more general one), because they also originated in the same place - AND THAT COMMON ORIGIN IS *THE ARAB PENINSULA*, NOT ISRAEL.
+Nazgûl What does that has to do with what I said. I said the land were an Egyptian land and you just lived on it just like how you lived in the Arabian peninsula, Iraq, North Africa in the west and in the east, in ethopia and so many other nations, you didn't have a exact land you ever been on for your whole existence, only Moses wanted to enter the holy land with your tribe, but sadly he was shocked when he left to write the Torah with the most faithfull believers of the tribe and they asked him "show us" your god to believe you, and when he came back he found that you're praying to a some kind of a bull or a cow statue made of an Egyptian stolen gold and saying that's "Moses' God!", he still offered your tribe to enter the holy promised land with him but what did you say? " this land has a very dangerous tribe, go fight them alone with your *god* ", I can't translate it very well in English. But it could be your promised land but you just refused. And then long after 2 centuries of the Egyptian kingdom collapse you finally established a kingdom there. It was never your land and you never had a homeland, and the only one that was giving you land for your own kind and rescued you from slavery you did that with him.
Ibn Al-Dawaymah
"palestine" was the Latin name of the holy land used in Europe. the land wasn't called palestine during the Arab or ottoman periods, it wasn't a separate entity withing the arab/ottoman empires neither a state by its own, its borders were not the one of the mandate, its inhabitants didn't see themselves as a nation or a separate nation from their neighbours...
basically nice try.
muslims are been kept the most illiterate by their imams , and religion ....
Nazgûl yes it was Palestine.
There was no Israel for many years.
Current day Israel is within the previous borders of the Palestine region.
It was not a country, but it was a region.
when thinking about... why not? problem solved
the question you should ask palestinians is, if that was jewish land and they always lived there, and they adopted muslim religion under occupation does it makes them arab or are they still jews with a diff, religion?
Corey almost always argues with Palestinians if he doesn't like their answers.
Exactly! and he provokes the way they answer his questions in a way that would make them look bad
Hasbaracists 101
@@coolstuff7137 on the contrary, he gives them a second chance to consider their answer, so that they wouldn't make themselves look like the rejectionists that they are.
He also argues with Israelis. Have you seen his videos in Israel?
hah the obvious answer i was expecting is "if it leads to a better life then yes" but they would rather say no.
MrOsiric They want a nationality that fits their principles and keep alive their history on that land. How is that unexpected?
Oceano Pracs they have no history
Maor Mizrahi Oh my friend, would you mind explaining why? No I don't want you to do that actually, I'm sure you'll come up with the argument that there were no such thing as palestinians before. And while that is true that doesn't actually makes any difference, all the palestinian families (that lived for centuries there) have a lot of culture and have the right to fight for it as well. Whether you think their history is important or not, it's still there, so stop claiming biased information.
Oceano Pracs no, they just want to keep their honour. It's more important to them to imagine some future victory than to actively pursue their welfare.
Oceano Pracs because they have no history as a people.
The Abrahamic land covenant rules the day. Israel have only a portion of its land right now and will repossess successively until fully repossessed. They came back on May 15th, 1948 as foretold by 2 ancient prophets who foretold to the very day 1790 years before.
All Palestinians I've met wanted this option with two hands.
Is that Fairouz in the background with the first speaker?
I have a problem with the translator's ability to comprehend and interpret the Palestinian dialog. Several terms and some times full sentences are being translated through out this video with more of "an academic" rather than a comprehensive sense of the language. I grew up in the WB (Shkeam or Nablus) and I think it would be more appropriate to translate "jews" into, well, Jews rather than Israel. such language shows the anti-semitisim which is displayed in Arabic rather than, the not much better, claims of nationalism.
I would've offered my help, but unfortunately I half the way across the world.
Are you a Christian by any chance?
"If they became part of us, lived like us" lived with out Healthcare, indoor plumbing, left the swamps..,.. what did Ottoman Palestine have to benome part of?
7:46 "Before 1948 there was no Israel" but neither was Palestine. 😓😓
no bro it was palistine it called palistine and we have passports too
@@mosadrof9974 it was called "British Mandate of Palestine" not "State of Palestine" and these passports was British not Palestinian.
Before it was Israel, it was the British empire, and before that, it was the Ottoman empire, and before that, the Crusaders, the Seljuks, the Byzantines, the Romans, the Jews, the Seleucids, the Persians, the Assyrians, the Jews again, the Canaanites, etc. There has never been an Arab nation state called "Palestine". There might be a Palestinian state in the future, but there never has been.
They have so much hatred. It makes me sad. When will people recognize Israel's right to exist and that it was Jewish land before it was Arab land??
it wont happend my friend
André Nunes it was Arab before Jewish... canaanites!!
they are jealous of the jews :D
Yussuf Daher Canaanites were not Arabs. lol..... they were a Semitic people related to Jews and Arabs. Arabs come from Arabia, hence their ethnic name, just like Jews come from Judea.
It was never Arab Land though
the turquoise tshirt dude at 8:31 is the future
Here's a more important question:what makes anyone think they can have peace with Islam ?
Israel has 1.6 million Muslim citizens living in Israeli society peacefully, I guess it just got lucky and got the good ones.
@s l - Are you FUCKING crazy. France and Germany are 2 European Christian countries. Here we are dealing with an Arab Fascist ideology that aggressively conquered half the world and today is still slaughtering the non-believers. Even cutting their throats in church. Israel is a modern democracy. Followed Fascist Hamas and corrupt dictatorship Fatah lately ?
I'm Jewish and I agree with annexation with full rights. Yes I understand Jewish nationalism blah blah why can't we be one with the Palestinians? The only way any country could survive is with diversity. They'll get drafted in the IDF, well fight for them and they'll fight for us. This might be an unpopular view in Israel but I'm all for it. And if an arab prime minister gets voted in down the line I woudnt hate in it. The divide I see currently that doesn't allow this to happen is putting religion over peace and success. If the religion is put as a secondary priority (which it should) this can and should happen.
Zionism and the belief that Isreal is only for the Jews and should be a ethnically pure state is the real roadblock. Zionism is just as bad as Hamas when it comes to pursuing peace in the region.
It’s like assimilation of the borg.
"Historic Palestine" Haha
Kills me laughing every time
I'm sure the Nazi's laughed every time a Jew identified as German as well.
The Palestinians gave surprisingly well informed answers.
except the last woman.
I think from a European perspective. Muslims who have come and still come to Europe come with a completely different religion and social model and yet Europeans cannot say that we can never build a partnership with them because we would be stigmatized as racists and Xenophobic. But do we have to hear from the mouth palestinians Muslims that they cannot create societies for religious matters? wtf?
I understand the sentiment of the Palestinian people and as a human being I empathize with them but Muslims cannot wield contradictory arguments, there must be reciprocity.. But it's clearly not that way. Islamic societies are theocratic social models, they demand to be able to live in the west and practise their religión(Without renouncing to implant in the future an Islamic state in western societies) but where historically they have been lands dominated by Islam do not accept secular laws and insist on segregate the Societiee. Basically what this woman is confirming is that Muslims understand religion as a model of society and political rules. That is a horror and will only bring conflicts to Western society. Yes, the Palestinians are suffering a lot because of Israeli expansionism and the West will suffer a great deal to allow the mass migration of Muslims. The war is served.
Felix Lagemann they’ve had plenty of time to have it brainwashed into them.
That's quite a patronising comment.
fuck i want to study ok
someone pleas tell me were do i can fide history on palestine for the lost 1000 years |
someone pleas? because i found nothing!
need help
First lady is brilliant.
let's hang out "they are stupids" - said the dumbass...
Brilliant in painting an answer that still fits her narrative while masking her hatred, yes. Notice how she replaces Israel annexing the WB with "Palestine" annexing Israel instead and then claims it's something every human being would stand for. She would be up in arms against Israel extending rights and citizenship to all Palestinians, but if it was to merely change names to "Palestine" then all of a sudden it's the best thing ever.
In short, something as trivial as the name of the country is more important to her than her actual rights. She cares more about (literal) bloody Muslim honour than she does about welfare. That, to me, is neither brilliant nor moral.
..masking her hatred? What are you on about? She was talking about the one state solution, not the annexing of Israel by Palestine. She quite litteraly mentioned South-Africa's apartheid as an example as to why such measures would never work; you're a bad, bad liar.
Except there are already Israeli Arabs, who have Israeli citizenship and equal rights under Israeli law, and the question was about Israel extending those rights and citizenship to her. And she would have none of it, because her honour won't let her accept anything but peace on HER terms. Peace where the country is called "Palestine". Have you even read my comment or did you just get to "hatred" and immediately started typing your reply?
If Israelis were guaranteed peace and equal rights under Palestine, I guarantee you many would instantly agree to that deal. This is not the issue for Israel, nor a real option; there's already an Israeli state, and there is no functional Palestinian one. On the other hand, Israeli Arabs have equal rights in Israel, so Palestinians *should* know that their rights will be secure, at least under the law. I say should because in reality many of them are brainwashed to think Israeli Arabs are living in apartheid.
Would I hate Israelis as a Palestinian? Sure, I believe I would. But that's only because I would have been raised in a culture and environment that kept me uninformed to the actual reality and history behind the conflict; to the fact that the Arab league instructs Arab countries to deny Palestinians citizenship; to the fact that Israel has offered to grant every single one of the Palestinian demands for peace on multiple occasions, save for one: the absurd demand to have both a Palestinian state and have millions of refugees return to Israel following a peace deal - and that those offers have been turned down, exactly for that reason.
Because the Palestinian leadership, and the leaders of other Arab countries are not interested in peace. They are not interested in advancing the welfare of Palestinians. They view them as pawns in the game to defeat Israel, and always have. I wasn't raised a Palestinians, so I have access to all this knowledge, and I don't hate Israel nor do I view Israel as the cause for the Palestinian suffering.
It's not always black and white where the side fighting rocks with guns is always evil.
Doesn't look like third world to me. If no money how can they afford cars and nice houses?
With US tax to chosen People
They live in a better way because they are a peaceful cohesive, hard working people,who are not a front for terrorist organizations!!!!!!!!!!!
How about S'audi segregation?
Saudi Arabia isnt a democracy. That shit is expected from those pigs. Israel is a developed country and a democracy, they are held to a higher standard.
Fred you need to keep up. The Saudi's and the Israelis are friends now. Mossad might be monitoring.
Palestinian land?? ha ha ha! Never was one!
You are brainless
@@mrhand3350 the typical answer of someone who can't fight not facts, but literally a claim.. so he responds with a brainless answer.
OH the IRONY
@@yonishachar1887 fake fact
@@mrhand3350 You've just proved what I said OH the IRONY
Annex= occupation. Just because you get a citezenship does not mean you're a free citizen
Ahmad Alshihabi Exactly!!!
like fakestinan lebanese or jordanins ?
Jace_From_Spaaace !
My reply is: use punctuation correctly please. I didn't understand what your point is. I also don't think it has anything to do with my comment
Ahmad Al Shehabi exactly.
Just because you're a "Palestinian" living under Palestinian rule doesn't mean you're better off than being under enemy rule.
It's true you're right.
Yes thats what should have happen in 1967, the golan and gaza, them you would have had less problem and a national identety for all
National Identity? are you drunk? how the fuck can Palestinians accept an Israeli national identity that doesnt represent any of their traditions, or language, or religion or anything else. The Israeli flag and national anthem dont represent anything about Arabs or Muslims. And it's not just the Palestinians, the Israelis too would never accept to live under a national identity that's mainly Arab/Muslim ... the one state solution will never work.
this is so tricky question putting into consideration that he asked the Arab Israels why did you surrender to Israel in 1948, so they are not trying to surrender now too.
The only problem is that historically ,🙄 there is no Palestinians nor Palestine ...
What historical Palestine? There is no such country or people. History recorded that that land belongs to the Jews. The Quran declared it so.
Perhaps if IL/PL were to become part of the USA, like Puerto Rico?
(overlooking the near bankruptcy of Puerto Rico)
The First Lady is a Legend ❤️❤️❤️
What is called the West Bank originally belonged to the Hebrews and was Judeah and Samaria. This is land GOD chose for his Chosen People the Israelites. Palestine never was a race of people or land. It was a name given during Roman occupation of Israel derived from the Philistines by man.
Tommy Carter agree, Palestinians were basically arabs(also non arab) that lived on the holy land for centuries, during the crusades until now. And israel was a race named after prophet jacob(peace be upon him)’s descendant. So what i think is, palestinians should be given independence for their country, not occupied because they were considered as “native” to the land. On the other hand israelis could have their own country because of their heritages,history, and so on. But in this case,Israel force palestine to be the part of israel, which doesn’t seem like a good idea for the palestinians. If they could make a country not based on israel, palestine, or something like that, i think it would solve the problems.
Palestinians had the opportunity to be born with the honor of being
Knights, And to die having this honor, It`s just their identity of being Palestinians, Do you think they will just give it up !!! NO WAY.
Palestinians will live with honor and they will die defending it.
I went to Ramallah two and a half years ago. I came to the conclusion that the Palestinians are more comfortable than the Syrians, Iraqis and Yemenites combined. The whole Palestinian thing was a massive exaggeration. It was a big realisation for me! The sensationalism portrayed in Arab media, I was expecting to see widespread begging, homelessness and hunger everywhere. I paid attention to things around me. The food and drink...The Shops and businesses...General Life! According to the world bank GDP per Capita in the Palestinian territories for 2019 was $3463. That's more than most Arab countries excluding the Arab countries of the Gulf and far better than most African countries.
And Palestinians who have taken Israeli citizenship aka Arab Israelis are more comfortable than millions of people who live in Europe and America. There are Arab Israelis in the Parliament... There are Arab Israeli university professors and judges. There are Arab Israeli businessmen.
That's why I generally stopped caring about the Palestinian cause!
typical logic of some ..."there are many laws..." give me an example..."errr derp?"
Heres is how it was summed up by the UN's human rights council: www.un.org/unispal/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/AHRC43NGO185.pdf
@@zem6152 lol good luck with all that, sonny 😂
plot twist: The whole earth is not ours and we all originally have been kicked out from heaven 🙈
Great video
how people can be so ignorants?? and racists!! i saw it there on this video
The West Bank was always Jewish in history. The Palestinians in the West Bank would finally become normal citizens if Israel would annex it. So it is a good idea to annex the West Bank by Israel.
Colonization is normal?
@@SomeoneSomewhere-el3cl Going back to ones land is not colonization
@@davidroscoe3815 it is not ur lands. U are dis*usting europeans. Soon we will send ou back to con*entrationcampstan🤣🤣
Ok, Mr Israel
It was never "Palestinian" land, it was British land, Ottoman land, and Byzantine land. Palestinians already had their arab state, jordan and Israel got it in 1967 war.
Annexation is the key to freedom and liberty so yes I'm all for it and every Palestinian I speak to wants this to happen and they want birthright citizenship. Many Palestinians hold Israeli birth certificates but yet are denied Israeli citizenship on the basis of their ethnic background. So yes I'm all for Caroline Glick and her one state plan for peace.
just change the name to the holy democratic land and give everyone the same rights
can't tell the difference between them because they are looks like each other . all semitic people should stand together .
the result would just be all the Jews slaughtered by the Arabs.
They may look similar but they have very different cultures. Islam does not integrate well with other cultures.
@@mirabrown2271 Neither does Judaism.
@@thetruth9494 every religion is like that lol
@@Maorio Yes almost true of almost all religions. But some religions are more fundamentalist or more exclusive or more rigid than others.
The question is offensive and racist and only serves to legitimise illegal occupation of other people's land. The first woman summarised it perfectly.
corey gil shuster.ask izraelis,why they support isis,way they support saudi arabia but not iraq or iran or syria.will they .will they recaive eu refugees if russia or musllims atack europe
Excellent answer of the first lady in the video, pretty clear! 👏👏👏
s l I’ve never seen educated idiots who use “lol” at the end of a sentence.
I will just put it this way: If you are a true believer of the Torah and the prophets and the Messiah Yeshua, you know for certain that all of the Israeli land belongs to the Jews and eventually Israel will succeed in full restoration to the land. It's not my words. I charge all Christians to read their bible. I believe "Palestinians" should be granted the right to become Israeli citizens. This is because God also makes promises to allow people living in Israel to become part of the land.
I hate to say that "Palestine" is not a people. They occupied Israel and were given occupational authority by Rome. They kept out Israelis during Roman rule. And although the ethnic groups changed under "Palestine", they kept most of the land desolate and had no real national organization. They are just Arabs from Jordan and Saudi Arabia.
I pray for peace. While I pray for peace, I know certain things are imminent because they are written in scripture. It may not all be peace, but GOD'S WORD WILL TAKE PLACE. I am just one man. I can't do anything.
funny
are you friends with any israelis/palestinians?
Strange question. Israel already has annexed the West Bank.
Nope, too many hostile Arabs to do that. Population of Arabs in Israel is already 20%.
Occupied. Not annexed. If Israel annexes the West Bank *everyone* that lives there would be a citizen (like the Golan, which is annexed, not occupied) and could therefore vote.
Under the occupation the only people living in the West Bank who are citizens and can vote for the Knesset are settlers...
الفلسطيني في اسرائيل يعيش برفاهية .. تأمين صحي وضمان إجتماعي .. يعيش حياة أفضل من الحياة التي يعيشها 22 شعب عربي .. راتب العامل الفلسطيني في اسرائيل ضعف راتب 10 عمال عرب مجتمعين من المحيط للخليج .. الفلسطينيين في اسرائيل يدرسون في أرقى الجامعات ويحصلون على أعلى الشهادات ويصلون الى رتبة نواب في الكينيست الإسرائيلي .. يعيشون في أجمل البيوت والمنازل ويمتلكون أحدث السيارات .. وإن دخلتم الى صفحاتهم على الفيسبوك ستجدون أنهم في العام الواحد يسافرون عدة مرات للسياحة في باريس ولندن واستنبول وروما .. وبالطبع هم يفضلون اسرائيل على حكم سلطة عباس أو أن تحكمهم حماس ..
عزيزي العربي .. لا تشفق ولا تتعاطف مع فلسطيني يعيش تحت إحتلال إسرائيل .. بل إشفق وتعاطف على من لم تحتلهم إسرائيل بعد ..
عزيزي العربي .. حتى الفلسطيني الذي يعيش في الضفة بين الحواجز والمستوطنات وضعه الإقتصادي أفضل من وضعك بكثير ..
عزيزي العربي يا من تموت من الجوع والفقر والمرض .. تعاطف واشفق على نفسك يا مسكين .. فالنقود التي صوت فيها الفلسطينيون في الضفة واسرائيل لبرنامج غنائي تافه في ليلة واحدة فقط تفوق ميزانية بلدك الفقير المديون ..
عزيزي العربي .. هل تعلم أنه إن زار أي فلسطيني من الداخل المحتل بلدك سيشفق عليك ويقول لك : يا حرام انتو كيف عايشين!!
Moranini T اذا بتفكر من ناحية حياة زي الحيوانات عشان توكل و تشرب اتفق معك ، بس الموضوع اكبر من هيك الموضوع موضوع هوية و حق لازم يرجع
معك حق من الأفضل الاشفاق على الفلسطينيين الذين يعيشون في المخيمات في الدول العربية
ويعانون من العنصرية اكثر مما يعانيه فلسطينيو الداخل
The past lady had interesting opinions. There are 2 people's. There are actions, violence,agression, and reactions ( more violence ). She ended saying Israelis raise their children to hate palis. But that's what palestinian do. They raise their children to hate Jews. All in all she had interesting ,common sense, opinions. Violence leads to violence. If children raised to hate, that is bad. Palestinian ,Israeli Jews are 2 people's. Single state impossible.
I don't know the Israeli gov at the time of this video, but if they were a similar bunch we watch today in the YT videos, then I understand the reluctance to be under Israel instead of a fresh new country.
The first person mentioned "Historic Palestine". Please show me a picture of that? What dupes.
Is it ok if Palestinians take Texas and call it Palestine instead?? ISISs goal is to cause commotion in surrounding countries and detract from the Palestinian issue so they can expand Israel.
Of courses it's ok. After all, the whites took it from the natives. Let them try. I'm rooting for them.
RamoSFTT bro I think your tin foil hat fell off
Of course they wouldn't agree to the annexation of the West Bank!!! That would be like legalizing the occupation and the building of Israeli settlements. And Palestinians want a total sovereign state, not one subordinated to Israel (like Puerto Rico and the USA). The only real solution is a a two states one, both independent from each other. The West Bank and Gaza should become and independent and sovereign Palestinian state!!!
As one of them said, they would have Israeli passports, and (in theory) the same rights. But anyone can expect that reality would be different and Palestinians would be asked to obey Israel without any complaint!!! Palestinians would be like second class Israeli citizens, an of course they would hate that; because it means they will loose their culture, traditions and identity as a nation.
If you want your own Palestinian State, why not get your leaders to stop saying no to the idea.
Why not to say it to Israel? Israel doesn't want to deoccupy Palestine. That's the answer.
Problem is Israel keeps creating more and more settlements all over Arab land disconnecting its territory more and more
@@gagikgrigoryan6534 Not now we dont. No. We deoccupied Gaza in 2005 in exchange for peace and all we got are 18 years of rockets and beheadings. Israel cannot survive such attacks from West Bank. Besides the PA has turned down every de-occupation peace offering from Israel since 1947 to present
Its a nonesense question ..We dont have Palestine ..We have only official Israel ..
Whatever Palestinians dream will not come into reality ..Because Israel is the command and will of the lotd god ..That has not came into reality because of the will of Israelites ..The lord god has commanded Israelites to eastablish over the head of Palestine .Even Quran Surah Ashuara Ayah 59 reemphasized the will of the lord god ..and according to this and other four si.ilar verses Only Israelites are the owner of the land which is called Israel ..Palestinians cannot challenge with their Quran and their Allah 's will ..or else they will face the problems which the tribe of Lut and Pharao faced when they wanted to disobey the ruler of all the universe ..
The history doesn't begin and end in 1948. Israel released in 1948 and 1967 only part of the historical land of Israel. this land is not Palestine nor shoes.
They will never give you the answer you want. The whole point is they think they own the land. So what's the point of asking.
"10% of historical palestine" lol
Yes ✌
most israelis would also agree this is a ridiculous idea
Why do they keep saying there was no Israel before 1948 simply because Israel got independence? The legal right existed since 1917 and the Palestinians didn't begin to have a presence there (by forced occupation) until late 1920s.
Based on the Palestinian argument Jordan should be returned to the UK and only became a country in 1946. Bahrain and UAE should be returned to the UK and only became a country in 1971. Kuwait should be returned to the UK and only became a country in 1961. Iraq should be returned to the UK and only became a country in 1932. Brunei should be returned to the UK and only became a country in 1984. Afghanistan should be returned to the UK and only became a country in 1919. Yemen should be returned to the UK and only became a country in 1967.
Just a comment on the legal aspect. If you are referring to the Balfour declaration, I am sorry to inform you that it is not a legal document and does not create a "legal" right. Palestine was under the British mandate and categorized as "Territory A" that is entitled to independence under the Leauge of Nations Mandate. More importantly, Britain did not own Palestine. In fact, Early Jewish immigrants including for example Golda Meir (Former Israeli PM) had a Palestinian passport. Palestine was also a party to multiple bilateral international agreements including with Britain. In other words, Palestine had an international legal personality. To claim that the Belfour declaration gave a legal right, you would be also claiming that when Britain and France colonized Africa they owned the land and the people there! Your argument clearly fails from a logical and legal perspective. I stress that my comment is only from a legal perspective on the situation before 1948. Today the legal situation is entirely different. Have a good one!
Since the creation of the United Nations in 1945, no country has violated as many UN Security Council Resolutions as the state of Israel. In spite of this fact, as a permanent member of the UN Security Council, the United States has the power to veto any Resolution it wishes, and has used this veto power more than 20 times since 1973, to thwart the will of the Council, and to shield Israel from any consequenses for its actions.
The United Nation's General Assembly has repeatedly condemned Israel's occupation of the territories as illegal (see UN resolutions 338, 1397, and 1402, among others). Israel's continued occupation of Palestine, sanctioned and maintained by the US, is one of the most serious obstructions to a just and lasting peace in the Middle East.
So Israel is worse than the Arabs that killed about 10 million people in thier civil wars including millions of children? I DON'T THINK SO.
The conflict between the Arabs and Israel is the least bleeding conflict in the middle east, and this is not thanks to the Arabs.
typo: Islam is the most serious obstruction to a just and lasting peace in the Middle East.
ask if they think african americans are the jews of the bible
כבוד, כבוד וכבוד 😒
You should be asking ''what gives Israelis the right to steal Palestinian land even if Jews lived there thousands of years ago''?
It is not stolen. It was given back during the British mandate by the British. Pocession is 9/10 of the law.
Jews have always lived in this land, whereas Arabs colonized it.
@@davidroscoe3815 You're just choosing to start history from a certain point. Go back long enough and before the ancient Israelites there were the descendants of what is now the Lebanese people living in the area that we now call Israel.
Now, according to your argument, if people have a right to conquer land because they lived there during ancient times, then Lebanon would have a right to invade Israel and forcibly remove Jews from there.
So if you wouldn't accept that done to you, why would you do it to the Palestinians?
It's not right that a Palestinian, born in the land, should be forcibly removed to make way for a Russian, or a New Yorker, who were not born there and have no connection to the land other than an ancient link from their paternal lineage.
In a sane world, Zionism would be considered a far right, racist cult. But we don't live in a sane world, and we have to give special treatment to Israel and allow it to wipe Palestine off the map and erase Palestinian identity and history, because Jews suffered.
I don't think that's right and I will speak against it. I think Zionism is morally repugnant.
@@nomad9338 Your missing something. Jews and Lebanese are the direct descendants of the Canaanites. If you learn a little about the Hebrew language you will quickly understand its routes. Scholars widely accept the fact that the Israelites were in fact a Canaanite tribe. But the point is this, both people have a claim to this land and neither will leave, so how should Jews and Arabs coexist and will the Palestinians ever have enough of bashing their heads against a brick wall?
@@nomad9338 Zionism is simply the right of the Jewish people to self determination in their homeland of Israel. If that is morally repugnant to you then perhaps you should seriously consider your morality or lack of. Jews were and still are more than willing to share with Arabs, but unfortunately the Arabs flat out rejected any notion of a Jewish state no matter how small. When the Arab army's attacked they vowed to "push the Jews into the sea" (code for genocide) well we all know how that little miscalculation turned out.
give each their own nation.
They tried that but the Palestinians didn't want that.
@@joanketelby752 They tried to give the palestinian a part of the Israeli land, it never was a part of a place/country formally recognized as Palestine.
one country is a great idea, some will stay and some will move away. time to live in peace and love one another. make babies together and work it out. god loves you all
"Because it's our land!" it was someone elses land before the moslems colonised it. (historic)
The moslem countries fought 3 wars against the Israelis and lost. There is no war in history where the losers kept all their lands.
YOU SHOULD HAVE ACCEPTED A 2 STATE IN 1948
These people expect Israel to give them rights and democracy but they are totally incapable of governing themselves in the first place, every time they are given a chance to do it.
Maybe it’s time they stop blaming others for their own problems.
Palestine was never a country. Palestine historically had no borders, no government. Its name is from Roman colonizers, the borders were drawn by the British in the 1910s, the identity was given by the KGB and PLO in 1964. Palestine has NO history, No archeology, they are amazing, there are over 2 millions Arab citizens in Israel, it amazes me that not 1 Jew can live in what they consider Palestine!
*Judea and Samaria
let's hang out Why? Because that is what it was called before Palestine? You probably believe Samaritans are 'European colonisers' too?
jerusalem mentiond 667 times in our torah
0 in your quran
i think its says alot about what religion connected to where :)
your religion started in mecca our religion started in jerusalem !
of all Islamic countries why do people want to criticize the only one Jewish state...I know the Israelis have problems with human rights but look at most of the Islamic countries even before the Caliphate ended in 1924 many Christian and Jews had to pay the jizya tax in order to live and Christians and Jews were titled as *Dhimmi* in Islamic Countries which means second class citizen, filth & dogs..and over hundreds of millions of non muslims killed under the sword of Caliphate and now most of the Islamic countries still persecute non muslims in their countries even women are being persecuted....if i speak false correct me but if I speak the truth and that is the truth
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so i thought you have nothing
I am a Moroccan Jew.
I support the 2 state solution!
I hope the Palestinians can get their state soon and live in peace fully separate from Israel.
I have a question I have met many Moroccan Jews whose parents and grandparents had fled Morocco to Israel and I've heard so many conflicting stories from them.some said the Muslims treated them wonderfully some said the Muslims treated him terribly some say they treated him over all pretty well but they certainly weren't treated as equals
What is your viewpoint
The first lady should be in a formal debate
Question to palestinians: Why do palestinians want a state now, but did not claim one during the Ottomans, british and jordanian occupations, nor accepted the creation of an arab state proposed by the partition plan of 1948? Likewise, why do they not consider Jordan being their state if they are the vast majority their and were fine during the Jordanian occupation or the actual Jordanian control of their holy sites in Jerusalem?
But who said that Palestinians wasn't hoping for establishment of palestinian state in 1948? You're not right
@@gagikgrigoryan6534 who said? Written in history: themselves, as the only struggles and fights they have had back then was to get control over the whole territory (kick the jews out)... They themselves refused a state in 1948, and again didnt care about one under jordanian and egyptian occupations...
"Palestine" was never an independent country. "Palestine" was the name given to the area by Rome - an occupying power. From then until recent times, the land passed from the control of one occupier to another. It only gained independent nation status again as "Israel." It was the Jews who drained the swamps and built the land and it was the Jews who fought the occupiers until they fled. It was Jews who organized a government and grew an economy that today provides for modern transportation, medical care, communication and education from which Arab peoples calling themselves "Palestinians" derive benefit.