Surface Laptop Studio vs Surfacebook 3: Choose the RIGHT one!
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2021
- The Microsoft Surface Laptop Studio is here and instead of doing a traditional Surface Laptop Studio Unboxing I thought I would do a full Surface Laptop Studio vs Surfacebook 3 comparison! I thought this would help Surfacebook 3 owners to see if they need to upgrade or not. This does serve as a Surface Laptop Studio Review but I will do doing a longer term review once I use it for about a month or so to really gather my thoughts. Here I cover surface laptop studio performance, surface laptop studio gaming and all the other things that help make a buying decision. Let me know which one would you pick Surfacebook 3 vs Surface Laptop Studio? Is this the best laptop 2021?
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Is the Surface Laptop Studio better than the detachable Surfacebook 3?
Both are over hyped and you can get a cheaper option in Lenovo and dell with similar performance
Hello Danny, I'm waiting for iPhone 13 pro-Max vs Galaxy S21 Ultra camera comparison when that will be?
This week. Editing it today!
I prefer the studio...
The Surface Book Hinge never bothered me at all but I understand everyone doesn't share the same opinion on it that I do. I had a SB1 on initial release and now have a SB3 (15", i7, 1TB, 32GB RAM, RTX 3000). I have been a big fan and I was ready to upgrade to whatever was announced but this just doesn't feel like a worthy upgrade. No 15" option. No SD card slot. A downgrade from in graphics card tier to the 3050 series instead of 3060 series (or in my case the RTX 3000 and A2000 perform nearly identical). 4GB instead of 6GB in VRAM. No XBox wireless. It also seems like the keyboard may no longer be backlit. It seems like they downgraded a good chunk of the computer despite attempting to create a form that should have offered improvements in these areas. I love the idea of a better CPU and Thunderbolt but these tradeoffs should not have to be made for it. It almost feels like it was better to just keep the hinge and add Thunderbolt and newer generation internals.
The Surface Book's design is just so good, I wish they still selled them
I'm going to grab a Studio. I rarely used the tablet by itself anyways, but I love the fold down style and I use the pen daily.
Just the review I was looking for! Thank you, sir.
Loved this comparison. Thanks
I just got my Laptop Studio today. I am blown away. not only does look a lot better in person but it works really well. I don't need the multiple positions. the 3 positions it has are all I need. but what really blows me away is the sound. the sound is the best I've ever heard in a laptop. and the plinth. it isn't even noticeable in person. I don't even notice it. and it's lighter than I expected. I know its 3.8 lbs for the I-5 that I got but it doesn't feel it. Probably because my laptop at work which is Dell is heavier and feels heavier. so far, I am loving it.
Glad you like it! I have been using a lot lately. It’s a great laptop.
Do you think this masterpiece could fit in on of the larger 13 inch bags?
Can u make some workflow comparison videos? Like ipad air+ macbook air sidecar vs surface laptop studio for art and general computing ?
The new one is interesting. But Surface Book still looks more premium.
This was super handy, I subscribed.
Thank you for such a delightful video. I will definitely go for the Laptop Studio. Both designs are great, but the Studio one brings me peace. So well done...
Btw, new subscriber
Just got my Surface Laptop Studio yesterday. I had the SB2, skipped SB3, didn't see much of an improvement to upgrade. I'll admit I was a bit worried about the 1600p vs the 2160p from my SB2. I will say there is no noticeable difference. by default the SB2/3 will scale 200% so effectively you are operating in 1080p as far as screen space, but with more pixels images are a bit sharper. The SLS, scales 150% by default which again puts you around 1080p real estate size. Here's the kicker, you can operate the SLS in 125% and the scaling is still super smooth. 100% on the SB2 is way too small to read and 150% the scaling is awful. Also if you're using an external monitor, i have a 4K Lenovo and the scaling is super smooth between screens. This could be a Win 11 thing but I'm sure you've all experienced lag drag moving a word doc or something from one screen to another and then Windows has to rescale the font. That is all gone. I am amazed. Not sure I like the new Win 11 start, but most other features of Win 11 are a huge improvement.
I should also point out, the screen fold on the SLS is really the best for this device. On the SB2 for me to go from laptop mode to note taking, I have to detach the screen, flip it around reattach, fold down, get the screen to reorient. The new form factor you go straight from laptop to taking notes in seconds seamlessly. For the advantages of having a detachable tablet, you go from a 15 watt CPU to a 35 watt CPU, plus anyone who owned a SB dealt with the pain of the GPU being ejected in laptop mode from the bug introduced in the 2019 fall creator's update.
@@bmbell71 ... I had the SB1 and SB2, but both i didn't had the nvidia discreet GPU on it. Didn't really need it. So never experienced the bug of detaching to switch from nvidia to iGPU. I used the SB for photo-retouching in Photoshop with the pressure sensitive pen, for which an i5 is more than enough. And having an assistant on shoot with just the detached tablet monitoring things with the camera tethered to it via wifi. So yeah personally, for my use case i'm kind of sad there isn't a SB4.
What about surface pen 2 and 120hz screen? 🤣
Nice comparison. I'm going to keep my book 3 for now and wait for the Gen 2 or 3 of the studio. Hopefully they'll change the keyboard color back to magnesium because it looks just like a MacBook.
Very fluent talking, thanks for your video!
Great review and bad ass sneaks too.
Great review! I just wonder Wich one has better battery life?
Great information. Thank you
This was a great vid, thanks. As a PhD student, I've always found the slim detachable tablet of the Surface Book extremely useful for reading and annotating PDFs. So I'll be going for the SB3. I also appreciate the clean design of the SB too. I would only consider the SLS as a desktop replacement, although I'd much rather have the actual Studio Desktop 😏
Surface pro8 with external graphic card is better than SB3. The battery on the tablet part of SB3 is just awful with an Intel i7 core
I have been using SB3 and it's sad there may not be further versions of it. It's beautifully clean design with a balanced spec. Not to mention, it's the biggest tablet with full pc...I must admit that I am not docking/undocking the screen all day, but it definitely feels more seamless when I use it as laptop for work during the day (in clamshell or studio mode) and just the screen as tablet for media consumption and lightweight productivity in the evening...all this without any need to jump between different OS and devices... I feel the surface book (and surface line in general) doesn't get enough credit for pushing the boundaries with their innovative and original designs while 'balancing' power and performance with versatility and productivity. SLS looks nice indeed while having beefier specs, but the trade off is that SB3 is 2 [seperable] devices, while SLS is a 2-in-1 device. It made my ipadpro redundant, which started feeling very limited and unexciting.I never knew I would be saying this being a lifelong apple user up until a year ago. However, most reviews are like Olympics tally chart with highest scores in geekbench, cinebench, gaming and video editing and don't fairly represent the majority of us who are non/light-gamers and not video editors.
@@NeKa.. docking/undocking while a surface dock2 attached with multiple devices to your SB3’s base could result in Blue Screen Dead frequently. That's why I kind of hate this device.
@@alexhamilton2867 In my 1+ year experience BsoD has never happaned. Then again, I don't need to dock/undock it all the time, maybe 3-4 times a day max. Most of the devices it's connected to are bluetooth (screen) so not an issue. If I am working in an app that use the GPU (base) it just simply wont detach with message "close xyz app to detach". It is mostly in Studio mode for writing and drawing for my work or the classic clamshell when it's typing heavy work days. I only really detach it for changing modes or use it as tablet for media consumption or reading or entertainment. But that's the beauty of it, I can do so when I want. With say SLS, I cannot use it in potrait mode for reading in bed. i think both SB3 and SLS fill different gaps that's why it not called SB4. I am glad there is more choice now because not many may have my use case indeed.
@@NeKa.. In my 1+ year experience, I am forced not to dock/undock while it's running, which is pretty inconvenient for me as a coder who needs to do some study and software design work, and constantly changing between the usage scenarios.
Thanks for the comparison video :) I have an SB3 so it’s a pass on the SLS…
Great video really good comparison. thx!
Great video review!
Great comparison. My favorite is the surface book 3
Everyone is different, so maybe you will be less sensitive to this, but I wanted to share my experience.
I have the SB215 and I was able to test out the SLS at Micro Center a few months ago. I have to be honest, I went in very excited about upgrading to the Studio as my next, and left pretty confident it wouldn't be.
I run my SB215 at 200% to maximize the sharpness of text and icons-think of the first retina display iPhone-and looking at the lower res menus and desktop items, I was very disappointed to the point I knew I couldn't make the switch. This is after watching hours of reviews and really getting my hopes up, so I definitely wasn't biased against the new design. If anything, I was hoping to be able to defend M$'s new direction, but it's sadly a miss for me.
Reviewers are emphasizing the new hinge as the major difference, but since I rarely use the SB in other modes, the biggest difference for me is definitely the display. I was immediately struck-kinda surprised-by how blurry the screen looked compared to the Surface Book, and it only took me about 20 seconds of use to come to my conclusion.
FWIW, in-person, the new XPS 15 and Razer Blade Stealth-they oddly didn't have the full-size Razer Blade-made a much better impression, although I'm pretty sure my upgrade is a ways off now. Hope this helps someone!
Thanks, interesting review!
Book3 is already no longer being manufactured--no mention of a Book4 so at this point the Studio is the only powerful Surface laptop with current gen GPU. Good news is that the Studio is still fully compatible with the old docks.
I'll still go for the book 3, really love the design especially that hinge and the flexibility
And, display already cracked for you?
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Great video! A lot of good informations, ty from Brazil ☺️
I own the Surface Laptop Studio and I absolutely love this thing. The pen is just amazing. The only complaint I have is that the trackpad isn't great, but everything else is amazing.
That’s very interesting because a lot of people say the trackpad is the best they’ve had!
I have a surface book 2 which I am not planning on selling, but this device is very tempting. As a university teacher I do a lot of annotations every week and this is much more stable than the book in tent mode. I’ll have to see the angle in person however. Still I am afraid it will be redundant with the book 2…
photographer run adobe. you sold me on the studio. Thanks for the video
Nice comparaison, great job 🔥
Thank you!
Can then Studio handle software such as Solidworks, Ansys, Matlab, and so on?
Great Details!
I have the surface book 2. Should I upgrade?
I was thinking about the Pro 8 or the Studio Laptop.
I had both and I ended up returning the Studio, because detachable keyboard wins over all the other positives in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, I really liked the studio, however the bulky keyboard not being detachable makes this computer an inconveniet extra weight when I travel.
What do you think of using an eGPU with the laptop studio?
Studio. Good review, thanks
Can this machine edit 4k video without lagging?
The SB is buggy with the detachment system. It stops working about a third of the time for me
No SD card slot? Lowered screen resolution? How is this for creators?
Yeah honestly I can’t think of a use case where I wouldn’t be taking off the tablet unless I’m reading an ebook. Might try and see how heavy the studio laptop is to hold in my hands on the couch.
Very well crafted review, thank you!
I'm torn between selling my Surface Book 2 and getting this Laptop Studio or keep my 4 years old machine.
My biggest concern is the screen pixel density, 267 on the SB2 and only 201 on the SLS.
I'm a pianist and composer and I read and write music on my Surface daily, so I wonder if this aspect could be a deal breaker in your opinion.
Have a good rest of the day, Danny!
I don’t think it’s a deal breaker. I can tell the difference but at the same time on everyday use I think you will find it to be just fine.
Maybe the 120hz would be a nice change for you? Perhaps that may make your work a little more buttery smooth doing your writing and composing.
IM IN THE SAME BOAT! I'm a pianist and architecture student. The surface laptop studio looks more useful for drawing but compromises only slightly on the detachable screen for reading sheet music. But...I personally think I'm willing to give up a little bit of the sheet music versatility for the display upgrades.
@@isaacdorio is the Pro 8 too underpowered/small for your work or could you consider that? No dGPU but supports external GPU now I believe
@@DanielHarrisCodes for me, it's the screen size and quality. I ended up buying the surface studio laptop a while ago and i love it. It does have some glitches, but they're easy to live with.
13.5" is borderline for a tablet. I doubt many ever used the 15" as a tablet. Surface Pro X is Microsoft's optimal tablet form factor.
I have a Surface Book 2 and I have a tablet holder that holds it in place above my treadmill, so I'm able to use the computer, walk, run, while doing work or watching RUclips videos. The only reason why that's possible is because the detachable screen is lighter in weight then the full 4 lbs if you include the keyboard.
It's a very useful feature to have a detached screen, so I would say making improvements to a detached screen is better than making a screen that isn't attached in order to avoid problems.
Make a comparison between m1 macbook pro 13 and surface laptop studio
Moving from the Surface Book 2 to the Surface Laptop Studio even though the design with the kind of 2 stage base isn't appealing.
The order is made, Microsoft is sending it in February/March in Europe so wait & see :)
Is surface laptop studio can support architecture software? 3d rendering & architectural drawings software
The killer reason to get the sb3, aside from price (700-1500 now) is it does not get too hot on your laplike EVERY other pc laptop.
Not gonna lie, I own one with Nvidia quadro rtx 3000 and the performance is 👌... build quality is up there
There's actually 4 modes = Laptop, Tent, Tablet and the reverse mode for other users.
After seen your excellent comparison.
I choose Surface Laptop Studio.
Really this is best Surface Laptop Studio video right now in the RUclips.
Kudos to
1. Thermal Test
2. Audio Test
3. Display (Little Winget 😍)
4. Keyboard and Trackpad comparison.
Appreciate it!
i5 with iris xe igpu : may i know its good enough for light video editing?
Great review, Danny. But your forgot to mention battery life. How is it?
Battery is better on the Surface Laptop Studio. Just didn’t include it because I didn’t have numbers to show because I only have had this for 48 hours when I made this video. I didn’t want to give out false information I wanted to use it for a while to see what the actual gains are but in my Daily usage so far the battery is better.
@@dannywinget thanks!
most wanted video!
this was a really helpful video, thank you! I'm looking for a laptop to run softwares like revit/enscape while also hoping to use it moreso only for personal entertainment, art/digital drawing etc in the future once I dont have to use my personal computer for rendering anymore. I agree, I really wish they provided more options for the GPU, because according to enscape spec requirements, the GPU for the studio is bare minimum so im not sure how smooth it'll run but I'm willing to risk it for all the other features... still debating it though because if softwares get a little more demanding in another year or 2 im out of luck .. I'll do a little more research but i really want the surface studio to be enough, I love everything else about it and have had my eye on it since 2019...
Did you end up getting it? I'm in architecture so I also need Revit/Enscape and I'm considering this laptop.
@@mgjnsn i did get it! I got a pretty good deal too, got it discounted as it was a returned model out of the box. It works great with revit,i havnt had any issues there. I will say tho im having trouble running enscape, it just wont run. I need to figure out how to make sure it's using the NVIDIA gpu & i think im doing something wrong so im probably not the best reference for this cuz my last laptop also had the same issue even tho it used to work with enscape perfectly until suddenly the gpu stopped doing its job or something happened. I'll update this comment if i figure out how to make it run
@@sherinloveschocolate ok thanks for the info!
@@mgjnsn an update!!! I managed to get enscape to work, works just fine now - the issue was i hadnt downloaded the nvidia drivers, once i did that it immediately started working & renders with no lags or slowdowns, i can fly thru my model withour issues, tho probably model size is a factor too -my file is 296MB
@@sherinloveschocolate nice!
Yoooo incise!!!! 7:58 ❤
not sure why everyone seems to be moaning about the internals of the new SB so much; they're absolutely fine and easily comparable to other laptops in the price range - plus the versatility of the three modes, plus much better stylus support makes it a winner in my eyes! Can't wait to try it :)
Not comparable to others in price. Weak gpu and processor lol 😂 product is overpriced. You’re paying for the Microsoft logo like the Apple logo. The difference is Apple retains its value 6 months later.
Should have at least an RTX 3060 and i5 11500H/i7 11800H. With the thick base you'd expect better parts.
@@eggyrepublic Do you run a trillion dollar company? End of story...
@@msp5138 what is the point of your comment?
I think anyone in the educational industry, teacher or student, will prefer the SB's detatchable tablet display for productivity, especially if they actually know how to utilize stuff such as drawboard and onenote
I have the surface book 3 and there are definitely both pros and cons when it comes to using the SB3 in the classroom.
In tablet mode, the battery life is very poor. I can get 2-3 hours of continuous use before needing to charge which isn’t great. The 15 inch model is very big and sometimes gets heavy to use. Also, you cannot detach if some programs use the GPU instead of integrated graphics. For example, Chrome by default uses the GPU so you’ll have to close it before detaching.
The SB3 is a really neat concept, and the tablet is really good when I need to quickly do live demonstrations of math problems because it connects so well with projectors, but I feel that the rotating screen of the SBS might help me more in the long run.
@@naenae5393 does the tablet position for SLS stays on tight? Is it too heavy to use a tablet? For example on a sofa or bed
@@TheSunshineRequiem I don’t have the SLS so I couldn’t say
The tablet gets heavy to use? It's so light.
Nice piece Danny. Thank you. The surface book 3 15" 32 gb ram and 512 gb ssd is $2099 after the $700 discount. The surface studio i7 16 gb ram and 512 gb ssd is $1889 after student discount. which one would you choose?
Depends if you need the detachable screen and the extra ports but personally I would go studio.
Thank you
Tablet mode and the hinge mechanism looks very fragile..
It isn't at all.
How about the weight?
Waiting for your S21 Ultra vs 13 Pro camera comparison...
which one for python and game programming and maybe run a virtual machine?
Acceptable for adobe illustrator?
will you compare the surface pro book 3 and the surface pro 9
Never knew why the surface book never had a functionality to use the keyboard via Bluetooth when it was detached, that would probably have stopped me from upgrading to the studio
What practical use would that have though?
@Bravadon Lol for real. Why wouldn't you just...Connect it lol
As a SB3 owner, I'm sad to see its demise even though it's a flawed product. You really need to be using it in laptop mode most of the time for it to be a good laptop, but wasn't the point to be able to use it as both a tablet and a laptop? It's almost the same size as my wife's 12.7 in iPad Pro once she has it in a case so while it's big it's usable in tablet mode with the caveat of being near an outlet or using it for really small periods of time. I was hoping for a future incarnation with better tablet battery life. My Surface Book in tablet only mode gets only about 45 minutes to an hour of RUclips before it's dead! Longer with web browsing but not by much. A surface go gets much better battery life in tablet mode! Seriously I'd take this thing when I'd wait for my daughter in the carpool lane at school right when schools reopened after covid, and it was dead when I got home every day! When docked forward or backwards it gets real respectable run times that competes with my 13in MacBook Pro as most if the unit's battery capacity is in the battery that's in the base. While he does mention turning the screen around on the SB3, he doesn't mention plugging the surface connector directly into the tablet. This helps with that battery life if you're near an outlet. It will also charge the tablet but not the whole PC if you have a smaller wattage surface charger. I for example tend to sit in my favorite chair in the morning by a window, criss-cross applesauce with a cup of coffee using it in tablet only mode, and since I have a surface Go 2 as well, I leave its lower wattage plugged in by that chair so I can charge both devices there. The full wattage one is in my room and charges both devices there as sometimes I do more serious work there to get away from noise, and I have the surface dock at my desk. A solution that can charge both devices in 3 places. Again, another battery solution is to turn the screen around and use it as a tablet with a large base which I find great for writing or drawing due to the angle, and in bed using the base to hold it at a good viewing angle on my belly in a 90-degree angle with the screen facing toward me and keyboard facing away. I sometimes consider giving up the book and the go for a pro 8 with LTE. If it were 5g I'd already be there.
Stupendi. Non saprei quale prendere.
slim pen 2 work in surface book 3?
Can you use Apple's XDR display on the new surface sense it has thunderbolt?
I tried. It doesn’t work for some reason. I am sure it will overtime because my other windows laptops do
remove that extra vent part and i am buying it
Nice t shirt. Where can I get it ?
Should be able to games above medium settings, no reason why you should be gaming at the native resolution on a PC with this small a screen. The high res is for text clarity and creative applications.
Book 3 all day! Detachable screens is super usable! Imagine a fully capable windows 11 tablet in you hand
I still got the SurfaceBook 1 and still love it
Same, still fast and responsive, I see no reason to upgrade yet. 🤷🏾♂️
it’s a bit slow even after i reset
Currently typing from a SB3, and whatever you do DO NOT GET THIS THING. Countless people including myself have had an issue with the gpu 'disappearing' and disconnecting from the system (not showing in device or task manager), and there is no permanent solution. U are essentially relying on your warranty, and that cannot last forever. This is my 6th SB3 (gotten replacements from the gpu issue), which shows the consistency of this issue. Proceed at our own risk.
I do think laptop studio is overall a better device but nowadays you can grab some good condition used surface book3 for less than half the price of the laptop studio it's a no brainer for me😂
I love the idea of the studio, but at that price point, I want to run games at high settings. But for work, I'd absolutely love the decent power combined with the color accurate folio screen. I just don't know if it's worth the cost, or if I could just get a separate tablet with a more powerful computer.
It’s definitely a niche market. For me the ability to move around the house with a drawing tablet/PC in one is worth it, and it could be the difference between getting something done or not. But if you tend to work at a desk and stay put it’s probably a better option to get a separate drawing tablet.
Definitely the new Microsoft Surface Laptop Studio!
I was excited when they included thunderbolt ports but then disappointed when they didn't use a detachable screen. You say there were no great use cases for it but the OS is literally designed for tablet use but what about the use case of watching movies or RUclips? The screen is light and not as bulky to hold and you can take it with you without much effort and it's still useful on the road.
can you tell us more about the battery life between these two? the studio more specific.
Sorry I was saving that for the full review since I have only been using it for a few days but the battery is better on the Studio.
@@dannywinget thank you, i'll wait for the full review. nice content, keep going 😁
0:49 what is that song!!!!????
What about Surface Book 3 with RTX Quadro 3000 vs Surface Laptop Studio?
Unfortunately I don’t have that one but general performance and everyday use the Laptop Studio is going to be a better choice.
Quadro 3000 in the SB3 is equal to 2070 Max-Q, which is double the performance of 3050 Max-Q in SLS. The Intel's H35 CPU is practically identical to Intel's 28W U-series chip in Cinebench R23 Multi-core, both scoring around 6,000 points with 500 points margin of error. So the old Surface Book 15 is a _much_ more powerful system overall than the new Laptop Studio.
@@mini9503 the 1660 ti performs better than the 3050ti mobile in many benchmarks. I didn't know the Quadro is that much superior - have you any info on the rtx 2070 matching capabilities?
I am team Surface Laptop Studio!
what about the battery life comparison between these two laptops?
Sorry I should of included it but I just didn’t have enough time with it yet when I made this video. Battery life is much better on the Studio.
@@dannywinget Thank you
the sacai waffle reference LMAO 😂
I find it a bit hard to turn it into the studio mode. always accidentally hit the keyboard. hahaha
Sup Mister Winget and everyone
The speaker difference is INSANE!
RIGHT?
@@dannywinget It's a huge difference! Thanks for the comparison. MKBHD complained about the speakers, apparently they are bad. Watched like 5 reviews besides his and nobody else complained about them.
i want Toshiba laptop review plz
Its funny, when you listen to video's sound comparison on the _very_ machine with the inferior sound and the other machine sounds better.
surfacebook 3 wont let you render things in different software because it makes the keyboard detach.
Mine is fine.
Surface Book design😍
Waiting for Aldor lake for 6+ cores
Does the screen flip vertically?
In tablet mode just rotate yes
@@dannywinget Great. Thanks 👍
3:58 Nope. If this is truly geared towards creators then instead of 4 thunderbolt ports, they should've included an SD card slot, and also offered a 4k display option. The thunderbolt ports should also be on both sides
It’s not geared towards creators specifically and I feel is more focused on productivity like other surface devices. I agree though I would of liked to see more ports and a SD card slot.
Is surface book good for gaming?
There should be a Surface Book 4 and I will buy it
8:10 THE VIDEO ISN'T ON
P R I C E ? Why doesn't anyone make a habit of telling prices?
watching this on the surface laptop studio
Damn, How is it working for you?
Congratulations!
The Surface Laptop Studio is similar in size to the 13.5" SB3 which has a GTX 1650 Max-Q, which it replaces.
Your comparison is with the much bigger 15" SB3, which is in a different class, for which they will probably make a replacement for, next year.
And don't forget that the Surface Laptop Studio has H series CPU this time, which has to be cooled too in the same base, and they have to be able to keep the screen cool when in Studio mode.
I mentioned the size in the video. That was the point of the video. The 15” was the best and most powerful and the laptop studio is better in every way besides the ports. I think it came across correctly.
it’s similar in overall size, but the screen is closer to the 15in, thanks to small bezels and the device is actually heavier than the 15in book