The Horrifying Case of Tiahleigh Palmer
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- Опубликовано: 3 июн 2021
- Tiahleigh Palmer lived with the Thorburn family, a foster family, near Brisbane. However, when Tiahleigh disappeared from school one day, the search began. She would be found, but it wouldn't be good and the investigation looked everywhere and found nothing, until an anonymous tip flipped the case on its head.
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It is beyond disgusting to me that during the interviews they all say that 'Tia had sex with Trent', instead of 'Trent raped Tia' like it's all her fault that this happened. She didn't deserve any of this
That’s exactly what I was thinking! And then when he said he “couldn’t look at either of them” , I was like huuuuuh?? There’s such a disconnect it’s disgusting.
We don't have statutory rape laws as strong as America. He was charged with incest and not sexual assault of a minor.
@@annaohare8263 You have rape laws though and this was rape for sure. I guess they couldn't prove it though, this whole story is sickening, I've heard of it before I think I blocked a lot of it out of my head. I hate hearing about things like this done to helpless kids.
@@Nikki_the_G Yeah I'm guessing that they couldn't prove it or the proof wasn't strong enough because we actually are pretty strict regarding statutory rape laws in Australia, so they had to settle charging him with incest instead. It makes me sick that he is out free walking the streets now
I noticed that too. It’s deeply upsetting to see how they’ve justified his actions in their minds.
“Family meeting: we’re going to kill the foster child.” They’re all responsible.
exactly. that's ridiculous how some here fail to realize this simple fact
Im absolutely not defending anybody. But he murdered her before they had the meeting.
Yup. 10 seconds watching the mother's reaction tells you all you need to know
That’s the most astonishing thing about the whole case. The whole family of psychopaths just agreed that murdering a child who was already horrifically abused was the strategy. I hate them for their cruelty, I hate them for their indifference, and I hate them for their weakness.
@@justintatman2244
Maybe, but they are still in on it.
Fostered at age 7, murdered at 12.
Human kind failed deeply with Tia.
So sad! My heart cried out loud for her. What has she done to deserve a life like this? This family is so evil.
Absolutely 💯 💯 💯 💯 yeah
You forgot:
Raped at 12
We certainly did...so deeply saddened by Tia's story, god love her..An evil family should have all been lifed off..
As with many others
I keep Tia's picture on my planning board. Her story keeps me going when I am discouraged in my journey to buy a larger house and become a foster mom. No matter her troubles or trauma, Tia deserved a safe home. We as adults have failed, and everyday children like Tia pay the price.
🙏 I hope you are able to help many children. Best wishes ♥️
Yes
That's a noble thing to do, and you will be blessed with a big housem & foster children that will be blessed to have you ♥
This is beautiful but so sad it's needed. Thank you for your wonderful dream. My little brother was abused in the foster system before we got him...among other things he was left in his car seat so long the back of his head was flat. He has trauma that resonates to this day. The world needs more people like you. Thank you and I'm sending you love, prayers and wishes that your dream becomes a reality.
I hope you get what’s needed to foster children. They need someone like you, more people like you.
Further to this tragic story, the father was recently convicted of the sexual abuse of a number of children in the care of his wife’s home daycare centre. In my opinion the wife has a lot to answer for. These stories absolutely break my heart 💔💔💔
At best she turned a bind eye, at worst she was supplying him the kids, either way makes her very complicit
Just appalling and boy was her mum on the money about not living with 2 teenage lads!
I wouldn’t be surprised if he sexually abused his own children as well. Sick, evil man.
Yes he mentions that briefly in this video.
@@lilyt18 Or the victim, Tia. If Trent, a grown adult man, had “sex” (it’s rape, even if Tia agreed to it) with Tia I’m sure Rick could’ve done stuff too. The entire family is disgusting. They all murdered her by failing to do the right thing and Trent being charged for what he did. Instead Rick decides to “take care of it” and killed an innocent child that they were supposed to protect.
I hate stories about kids where every adult failed them miserably and in turn , never really stood a chance at a decent life. Everybody deserves a damn chance!
😞..💖
Poor babies never get a chance...they really do deserve a chance..
@Andy White the "system" freaking sucks
Well said😪
@@starlightsparkles4697 yeah that’s why it’s important to vote!! It’s the judges who fail these children and not the child protective workers, Those workers are way underpaid and overworked trust me I know first hand. Sad the rich conservative higher ups makes all the decisions. They rather spend millions on housing children in Random hotels with other bad kids having sex and all kinds of nonsense while the workers are getting punched and kicked and spit on by these kids and made into glorified baby sitters just because the state refuses to find them proper placement/homes. It’s very sad. Please vote for better judges and state representatives.
Knew the mother was in on it as soon as she told the police she said "How could you let that happen?" to Trent, instead of "How could you do that?" Passive language instead of acknowledging his fault.
How can the she blame others, she should have kept that child with her no matter how much she have to struggle.. (that's just me)
The Mother committed conspiracy pure and simple. Where’s THAT justice!
She did a year and a half? Do people not understand how these things work??
@@fuckRUclipsBringBackDislikes we heard that. Year and a half isn’t enough
She probably saved herself from that by not being present in the house when the murder took place. If she'd been there I think she would have picked up a conspiracy charge, if not be a codefendant to the murder charge. Australian law is relatively similar to US in regard to those offences, even if the court proceedings have some differences.
“Tia demanded sex or else she’d kill our dog” Absolutely horrible liar.
That's why he got 4 years. He's acting like a juvenile.
@@Scorch428 Please that's an obvious lie
I skipped that part of the video, and now I am glad I did.
@@Scorch428 you’re sick
Jaba the Hutt here has bars around his property like it is a jail, so . . .
I think what frustrates me most about this story is every single one of them saying "he had sex with". No. That was not sex. He raped that poor girl. So infuriating
Yeah, grinds my gears. And also this "SHE had sex with him" as if it was her initiative, as if she wanted the rape. All BS. :(
EXACTLY. I’m so glad Mike makes a point in these stories to stress when they call it “sex” it’s actually rape.
Agreed! There is justice for them in the next life. They will not escape
@@elainep8873 you are delicious
Seriously had me screaming....it's not sex, not incest, it's RAPE!!!
@13:30 That unnatural mother, telling about when her son confessed a “sexual encounter “ with Tiah. “Oh mate how could you *let* something *like that* happen?”
I’m an Aussie, live quite close to all the named sites, but I’ve never heard that particular little gem before.
I don’t think there’s many people who hear of sending a twelve year old girl into a foster situation with two teenage males and don’t think it’s a bad idea. If it’s been a long term foster and they’ve grown up as brother and sister, that’s one thing. But at the ages of all the children, when the foster care started it shouldn’t have happened.
What a nightmare. A vulnerable mum trying to do the right thing, and a middle class family of monsters in essence grinds up and devours her child like the junk food they peddled. I am horrified and so sorry for this poor young girl.
All because of money
She did nothing when she was told by her daughter she was being sexually abused.
worst
family
ever
How can this woman talk about the rape and murder of a child like she's talking about shopping. Evil.
Or like he just made a mistake, and what do you do with mistakes? Erase them! Shocking in its selfishness.
Maybe it was because she treated it like shopping when picking a foster kid. They were shopping for a victim. Sick
@Salty Syren A lot of them aren't even damaged. They are simply just incapable of feeling any emotion except 2. Happiness they are getting what they want or anger that they aren't.
That foster 'mother' got off lightly. She knew but did not protect the child from evil. What a horrible family.
True dat!!! Gets me sooo mad 😡🤬🤬 poor lil girl... She have done nothing wrong.. She was taken in a very cruel way... 😪
_Trent got beat up in prison_
*Everyone liked that.*
But...but... =(
Not enough...
not the dead girl
Recently a facebook post has gone around telling girls to be aware of his Tinder account, but disgustingly a lot of women don’t care about what he did.
I'm sorry but I would beat the hell out of him too, being 18 looking like Justin Bieber tried out for bts and failed. 😂
This was heart wrenching. What a horrible, tragic life this little angel lived.
I lived 15 minutes away from where they lived and it’s always hit so close to home, Tia didn’t deserve any of this and at the beginning of this I was already calling the family POS because well, they are! Trent should’ve gotten more time, and when the report came out that he was beaten up in jail, well that made me smile he deserves it and more. I hope Rick is getting the same treatment. That family can burn in hell.
RIP Tia you beautiful soul, I wish you never had to go through this, you would have still been alive today ❤️❤️
The irony over 600 people at her funeral...but no one to turned to when she needed it help ...society failed her , heartbreaking
Exactly. The definition of "care" in many families seems to be having their kids name or face printed on stupid T-shirts at their funeral, rather than putting the child's needs FIRST, from birth - and raising them properly. It's too late to show "love" once the child is gone.
well first of all, her Mom failed her. Don't have kids if you're not capable of taking care of them
@@michaela9967 sometimes people don't know this till it's too late :(
@@michaela9967 you can say that but sometimes you think you can. You think you have the right capabilities and support systems and then realize after the baby is born you can't, and that parenthood is way harder than anyone tells you it is.
Mum thought she was doing the right thing giving her up because she couldn't take care of her. Unfortunately the people who were supposed to take care that baby were demons in the flesh.
Foster "care" can be a child's worst nightmare.
This is too sad. Everyone failed that kid.
THE mother especially
@@piva1358 not her biological mother? The foster mother, yes
@@binnes117 her biological mom chose to do drugs, party and dump her responsibilities for the child she chose to bring into the world of on the system. She ABSOLUTELY failed her daughter. Are you kidding me???
Literally everyone. Sooo sad.
@@binnes117 the biological mom should have been responsible enough to take child out of the family after hearing about the abuse.
Such a Heart breaking story! 😢 The social services are partly to blame for that. It wasn't a good idea to put a young girl of that age in a home with two teenage boys not knowing anything about them or the family. That was a no no. Poor little girl 😢 So So Sad 😢🤧
Both Tia and her mother were strikingly beautiful (obviously that doesn’t matter - the story is just entirely heartbreaking) - what that disgusting monster did to Tia makes me so furious. She was thrown to the wolves, and that sociopath acted like he was heartbroken. That girl deserved a chance in life and that “good boy” stole her life.
The person at child protection services who ignored the reported abuse had a duty of care to get Tia out of that situation. They should have stood trial also.
Precisely !! But why is it that every time something like this happens, and Dear God it happens far too often, the people responsible for looking out for these children never seem to be punished ?
Yes absolutely all on trial 😢😢😫😇🌺☮️rip 😇 kind angel
It The judges that have the final word not the workers. Some y’all need to do more research before you make yourself sound stupid on social media. All those workers are way overworked and underpaid. Trust me I know first hand. Meanwhile the states conservatives are at home in the air conditioned making 100,000 a year and the workers who are getting kicked, pinched and spit on by these kids are not even making half that and have to work their asses off for a small salary and put in 60 hours a week to be glorified babysitter because the state don’t want to find proper placement/homes for them. Some y’all have no clue what really goes on.
@@Jordanfiend361 what are you talking about...foster carers are paid over 450 a week for each child and for kids with special needs much more...social services deliberately ignore abuse in foster placements as they don’t want to admit they take kids from loving homes and put them with abusers. The system is broken and diseased from the core.
@@Jordanfiend361 Overworked and underpaid ? So is everyone !!
If you're paid to protect a child, PROTECT THEM !! Don't blame it on the judges, in MY personal experience they almost never go against the recommendations of the case worker. Maybe you should do more research before you spout off about others looking stupid.
That poor girl betrayed by absolutely everyone. Even by life itself.
He had to do it...to protect his family's reputation!
@@Scorch428 Troll
@@StamfordBridge Woulsn't say a troll probably sarcasm
I don't know why, but stories about young girls like this absolutely destroy me. This poor girl...
@@generalgrievous262 Hope so. Still doesn’t quite work as a response here.
Her mom failed her, her biological dad failed her, the system failed her, these foster monsters failed and destroyed her by taking advantage of her vulnerable state. She had nobody to turn to and these monsters knew it. Just because it’s possible to take advantage of someone in a vulnerable situation, doesn’t mean you should. These foster monsters should’ve all been given life in prison or the death penalty. I cringed when I heard the sentencing for the mother and sons. Poor Tia never had a chance!!!😔😔😔
I remember this happening, I live just around the corner from Marsden High school where Tia went to school. The place they found her body me and my family were fishing/visiting just weeks before. This death put a hold on the whole of Logan, we were all searching and when everyone found out she'd died the whole of Marsden High held a day in her honour. Such a sad way for a beautiful young girl to go. This left a mark on our whole city and we'll all always remember this girl.
The fact they tried to paint her as a troubled child, bc she would run away but she was trying to escape. My heart was heavy watching this bc she didn't deserve this.
If only she could've got to someone to tell them what was going on and them actually do something about it. It's so heartbreaking that her mother gave her up to give her a better life and these pieces of ish did this do her. I hope the father and son gets battered daily.
Yes, this one made me really sad. This poor, beautiful little girl was just handed off to those monsters. How sick and warped is that entire family?!
That is the worst life a person could be dealt in my opinion. Born to parents that don't want you then given to people like this while going through your most important development years as a person. I don't see how anybody could be normal growing up this way that beyond sad and shows how unfair life can be.
yah their version of child protective services is as inept as the United States'....
@@robbybee70 it's honestly a desperate situation especially now in the US with the opioid epidemic. There are so many children going into the system and not enough families to take them. The ones that would be good parents usually don't apply to become foster parents for whatever reasons and unfortunately many that do don't for the best reasons of the children. It's a sad situation most people aren't even aware of they need to make adoption easier for American parents. But because of the difficulties many go overseas to adopt. I have a family member that works as a social worker she has a big heart and that job crushed her so to speak.
The killer acting as pallbearer at his victim's funeral, wearing a purple shirt to blend in with those grieving for the child he murdered. I'd give him twenty years for that alone.
Exactly thier home is full of narcissistic people all should fry
This happened to my friends Dad. His friends shot and killed him over a bottle of pills, was a pallbearer and only got 5 years! Disgraceful!
The worst kind of person is someone who will kill another then go to their funeral and cry like there is a special place in hell for you if you do that
that was the scariest part of this case.
I like your cat picture
That poor girl went from one nightmarish world straight into one much even worse . What an evil family through and through.
Sorry but I think dad Rick may well have been abusing Tia himself giving his own history - also, his own younger son said his father would murder him if he tried to protect Tia! Josh knew his father was a psychopath.
The fact that Trent confessed to doing that to the poor girl and yet wasn’t charged nor did he face any extended time in jail shows that this is an international problem of under-punishing such heinous crimes against kids.
Yes! And so many times foster children are treated as disposable.. it’s bullshit.. poor kid didn’t choose her situation.
And that crime lead to her death. it was heinous enough to kill her yet he got away with everything.
He did get charged with perjury, interfering with the course of justice and incest. He got four years, of which he probably served a minute amount. And while his ass did get beaten whilst in jail, I think he should've been charged with her death as well, murder three (it is a charge), and should've served a lot more time (which would've meant a lot more ass whoopings.) RIP Tia, I'm so,so sorry everyone failed you.
Abortion for the win.
The western “justice” system is committed to white privilege and supremacy, and allowing white men to do whatever they want and to whomever with simply a slap on the wrist
“We have to protect Trent.” Most disgusting sentence of this video
Yep, that family's priority was to protect the 19 year old rapist, not his 12 year old victim. They all belong in jail for life! It's utterly sickening that vulnerable child was delivered on a plate to her rapists and murderer.
I know. Trent was doing an excellent job of protecting his whining, lying, self serving self.
But I think the dad wanted to also protect himself because if the authorities came to investigate the rape of Tia, they'd also find out about the dad abusing the dayhome kids so it was also out of self preservation too. Pieces of shit, the lot of them.
@@kikidee6033 He was probably worried he was the dad too. Sick family put em all down oxygen thieves. World would not mourn the loss of any 1 of them
I know Tialeighs Paternal Father Andy well, there is more to this case anyway one disgusting point about self preservation with that Trent was he accused Tialeigh of threatening to kill his dog if he did not sleep with her, the lying rat, it just goes to show how narcissistic these people really are he got off basically Scott free couple of months in jail no problem...What sort of imbecile in child safety would put a teenage girl in a house with 2 teenage boys anyway unbelievably stupid...Rip sweet girl Tia...⚘
I really feel for the bio mother in this case. Was she a good mum? No, clearly not. But she knew that, she loved her daughter and knew that she wasn't able to give Tiah the life she deserved. She trusted the care system to keep her safe and find her a loving home. But instead Tiah was handed over to monsters.
I admire the mothers admittance that she was incapable of looking after her child, as so many children have to suffer under the care of unfit parents. But the care system is broken. There are too many examples of tragic cases. Tiah, bless her. She deserved so much better from life.
I’m sick and tired of women like you. Her mom literally chose Dick over her own daughter. You feel sorry for her? Great. Just continue To give “mothers” like this a free ride and slap on the wrist so that the system can keep cleaning up their messes and more kids can be murdered because god forbid these worthless whores use sex toys instead of needing Dick over their own kids. Right. It’s the “system” that failed Tia.
I don't feel bad for her because she completely failed her daughter.
@@Joelswinger34 are you serious? She failed her by trying to give her a better life? Cindy did not and could not have known she would be MURDERED. You are disgusting. Grow up.
The mom caused this situation. She should get life in prison because she is the one that put little Tiah in this situation. Disgusting how anyone can feel sorry for th person who caused their child to be raped and murdered.
@@Joelswinger34 are you that arrogant?
Just when I think I have something to complain about, I hear a tragic story like Tia's. Her mother Cindy's fatalism led her into drugs and homelessness. Sad. I don't know her story. She tried to do right by Tia given her downward spiral. Thought she was protecting Tia from herself. Didn't realize those who were to protect Tia were harmful and deadly. RIP Tia. Blessings.
Can’t BELIEVE that vile excuse for a human fucking being carried that precious baby’s casket after robbing her of her life! There’s a special place in Hell for monsters like him. This case is absolutely heartbreaking. Everyone failed her and she never really had a a chance. RIP Tiahleigh🕊
Yeah. 😔
That enraged me!
They say our world is becoming overpopulated. Those committing murder and sex crimes against children should be the first to give up their space and air. I don’t want to share with this bastard.
@@treasurehunter3193 absolutely!!!
@@ArbitraryFilmings agreed..... this one hurt my soul. I feel achey and sad..... 😥
I'm not a big fan of people in general, but people who hurt kids and/or animals... They are a special kind of garbage.
Cheers mate. There are some of us nice folks out there. However, I can be cruel, but I want to be kind at the end of the day. Continue to try
I am with you on all accounts!
There's a special place for them in hell waiting for them!
...AND the elderly, AND special needs😢
I have zero mercy for those who prey on our most vulnerable.
I've said it before and I'll say it again "eyewitnesses" cannot be trusted at all. No one should ever go to jail based only on an eyewitness as people make stuff or create false memories all the time. We think our memories are like recording devices but in reality, every time we think about an event we remember it differently, as we remember remembering it and not the original memory.
They send people to jail after picking someone out from photographs based on a stranger they saw for moments during a high-stress crime. Now, these kids at school knew this girl and say they saw her when she was not there. They were convinced they saw her that day. That is how unreliable our memories are as they could just as easily remember seeing someone they know at a crime scene when they were not there. So imagine how much worse it gets when they are trying to remember someone they don't know.
You are so right. Compare with science where eyewitness is the lowest form of evidence.
I have extremly good memory (99,75 %-ile) when I actively memorise. Still, when it comes to typical non spectacular eyewitness situations, I remember them as bad as everybody else.
I feel bad for her mother having to live with the fact that she thought she was giving her daughter a better chance at life by putting her in foster care and having to live with that lose
I don't. She could have pulled herself together and gotten sober, or just not had a child she couldn't care for.
@@Joelswinger34she was a victim of domestic violence. Watch this again and blame the beater.
One of the more horrifying stories I’ve seen on here. These people literally discussed how they were going to get rid of her, like she was dirty laundry or a bag of trash. Simply horrific
and that poor girl was treated that way her entire, short life. I wonder if she ever had a happy day not having to worry about something
I'm sure if on those rare days she was happy the thought of no1 truly caring was always lingering. That was my case anyways. I was never truly happy I just pretended to be. It's a survival mechanism.
@@DavidSmith-fg5su I'm really sorry you feel like this..So many people suffered as children. It isn't fair or right.
It was a very huge story here in Australia and very sad. I'm surprised they were even allowed to foster care because we have very strict rules and regulations and red tape that it makes it very hard. I spoke to one of the foster care organisations managers and she said I wouldn't be approved because I had some clutter neatly arranged but no space for it to go in a cupboard. My home isn't dirty and it is kept neat and tidy but just that pile would be enough to not be approved, oh and also 1 small window in my house had a white sheet as a curtain at the time because I hadn't found the specific size curtain needed for that window. I would have to fix that LOL
Nope
The fact they said she ran away often is a huge red flag. Disgusting this poor child was put with these monsters
Your right the dad was a terrible person. Prob beat his wife and maybe her. No one defending him. My dad used to beat me with a belt till I was bleeding and broke my nose a few times. But as a 8 year old child I couldn't stop him if he hit my mother. He never did just making a point a child is scared of his father.
Not necessarily. It’s not unusual for foster children to run away but it really depends on diagnosis, history etc. it’s not just a sign of abuse.
@@roninkraut6873 My Mother was raised in foster homes along with her 6 siblings I know it can be bad
Might sound wrong but I would want too foster A girl cause listening to what my mom and her sisters went through. Just rather a girl shouldn't have to go through that.
@@drxcyclopessdrx3920
For sure. Foster care can really be misunderstood. I don’t know which is worse, being abused/neglected by your bio parents or by foster parents? Both are awful and I wish it never happened
Well done Mike, you can easily tell you wasn’t comfortable at all doing this story but you did it with honour xxx RIP Tia xx
Poor girl breaks my heart deeply
The fact that were more than 300 sex offenders only in one locality is already appaling enough
Logan is big
Every city in the world has those kinds of numbers and just a small percentage are ever caught. I do not let my kids out of my sight.
Not surprising since between 1788 and 1868, about 162,000 convicts were transported from Britain and Ireland to various penal colonies in Australia and almost 20% of modern Australians, in addition to 2 million Britons, are descended from transported convicts.
Oh and that many convicts were also sent to the US from Britain as well. If you look up the history, you will see that around 52,000 were sent to America and they settled mostly in the US. You have a look at our crime rate and the deaths related to crime, you will see our stats is so much lower. We don't have drive by shootings or shootings in nearly every area, ha we don't have a high stabbing rate either. Its also rare for us to get any mass shootings. Our last mass shooting occurred back in 1996. We have had a few horrible incidents since then but nothing on a massive acale such as what they get in the US. Our kids are safe in school cause their is limited risk of a kid coming in and shooting each other
My thought exactly
That one boy making the claim in his message that she threatened to kill his dog if he didnt sleep with her is disgusting. Lying about the situation and shaming her in death to make himself appear more innocent. Real p.o.s.
He was giving such bullshit. I'm glad the person he sent it to gave the info to the police. Thank God one person didn't buy this bullshit.
@@Ant509y yeah but where was their call to crime stoppers before the reward was offered? I wonder if they claimed it?
And to think that POS only got 4 years and is off continuing his life. Disgusting!
Ruthless bastard!
How do we know he lied? I could be wrong but I believe he sent those messages before she died, so that's not "shaming her in death", either.
Obviously she didn't deserve death, but that doesn't make him a liar.
WHY do people like this have kids?!!! What can they POSSIBLY teach them?!! Poor Tia.....
I love how in Australia even mothers call their sons "mate."
They do in the uk too at least some do
We call everyone mate, I call my dog, my son, the guy at the servo, my boss, everyone mate. It's a great default word.
@@007BlondeAussie Aha, so thats where the word 'mating' came from.
I work in the legal industry and even my bosses/professional colleagues call me mate...and I'm a girl!
The mother should also be in prison, she knew what was going on
Agreed
Yea, she did
100% she did….
lets get her
She got 18 months. A joke.
My dad would LITERALLY, in the most legit sense of the word, kill me if I did anything CLOSE to this and then go to jail for it. This is disgusting. That's not saving your child, it's enabling it. Legit disgusting.
This is such a sad story. That poor little girl.
Same dude and I live in a 3rd world country where our culture is called "Backward"
This is close to me and exposes the how society is all about apearance's
If you really beleive it had anything to do with 'saving' his son, you really have no insight into the sort of character Rick Thorburn is.
@New Guy. Weren't you listening?
Of course, considering the father also molested a bunch of smaller kids from his wife's in-home daycare... it's not even a matter of protecting his child. It's just a monster finding excuses to destroy anything that threatens him.
In what world was it okay to send a 12 year old girl to a home with 2 teenage boys?? As soon as I saw the family pic, it was INSTANT RED FLAG. Should have never happened, it's sickening and entirely preventable.
I used to live in Logan, this case is devastating and made me realise how fucked our docs system is, as someone who grew up in foster care it really broke me hearing about this case. You’re the first channel I’ve seen cover this case, so thank you
This story is worse than the dude that put his mom’s head in a pot. And that was crazy as hell. Everybody needs to go to jail imo. Camera man too
Yup! All of’em, including the morons at CPS (with the ironic name “dept of child safety”)! At least that weirdo Joel Micheal was solely responsible, here there are many ppl who got away with no punishment
Agreed!
Their mail man and milk man as well
Right! I didn’t think we could get worse than that one, yet here we are with this story.
Yeah that guy lived in my town not far from my parents house actually. Very strange and horrific case.
“I told her to stay in her room and put herself to bed”... that poor girl had no one caring for her
Right!??! I'm seriously furious the foster "mom" only got 18 fucking months!!! You get more in the US for selling drugs! She deserves LITERALLY everything bad that happens to her for the rest of her life.
That one really broke my heart. How alone she must have felt. My son is 13, almost 14 and I still at night get his bed ready, often we talk and laugh before he goes to sleep and I always still kiss him on the forehead as I have all his life and I tell him how much I love him, and yeah he is a very typical teenager but I know deep down he appreciates this and wants it also cause also I am his only parent. Every child deserves at least one person in their life that will do anything for them, love them unconditionally no matter what and go to any lengths for them and their safety and welfare and that will always have a time for them also. It is so heartbreaking that Tia didn´t have anybody, she was all alone and placed with 4 monsters and one monster raped her and other monster killed her !!!!
@@IrisFlowerAndRainbow It's so nice to know that some kids have such a loving parent!
@@alexalandy8714 Thank you so much for saying that ❤ Lots of love from Iceland to you ❤🇮🇸
I’m not even 5 minutes in and my heart is broken. This poor baby girl deserved better.
The sentences seem so minor in this case. I truly hope the daycare children received the help they needed to have the best chance of a healthy life after the tragedy's the had suffered in that home. As for the boys, growing up in that sort of environment obviously affected their decisions. With that said, they all had a choice and they choose poorly. Life is hard and I don’t pretend to understand the dynamics of this situation. But, I do think listening to stories that Mike puts out will help some who may be currently naïve to trouble and have others rethink their behaviors. Thank you Mike for your narratives.
"And Julie ran a daycare out of the house." Uh-oh...
That’s EXACTLY what I said! ‘Uh oh’ indeed 😑😬😓
And Rick was accused of sexual abuse of kids in her care.
So she was an enabler of the 'men's in her family when it came to their despicable behaviour
@@dshe8637 she must get some thrill out of it. It's like a family of psychos poor girl
Never ever leave your kids in an at home daycare! Period.
That really scared the life out of me when I heard that.
It's a shame how many people failed this poor girl. She deserved so much better.. 😞
@Arna Cook So you actually lived near her at the time?
Starting with her mother..
This is just the world we live in. This happens all over the world, there is always someone who is falling through the cracks of society.
@@IChIDH her mother gave her up because she knew she couldn’t keep her safe. Her mother did the absolute right thing
@@TheJillers her mothers actions directly lead to her death, how could it have been the absolute right thing? Unbelievable.
This is literally up the road from where I live and I feel like I've learned more from this than what the local News told.
Poor kid 😞
She never got a fair chance at life
But she’s in Heaven now 😇 where she will feel loved 🥰
I’m kind of saddened by the huge number of people who showed up after she was dead than the people who helped her when she was alive. She obviously was running away for a reason and no one took it seriously. I know foster care case workers are over worked and the system is horrible. The fact that everyone in her life who was supposed to protect her ended up leaving her, failing, and hurting her is just so sad.
good point
I think Rick had abused Tiah as well.
When there's cameras running everyone's surrounding the victim with love...SHAMEFUL shit indeed
Kids run away for little reasons all the time. My own sister ran away because she didn't want to have a curfew when she was 14 or so.
Hindsight is 20/20. I can imagine just how many kids in the foster system just don't want to be in the home they're placed in. Having a family forced upon you who may be nothing like what you are used to, who don't connect with you because you're just different. Not bad or a problem child, just different.
The fact that cps needs to exist is a tragedy in itself, and all the good intentions people have can only go so far.
I'm sure there's a caseworker out there whose shoulders carry a lot of guilt over misreading Tia's plight. But the only people who deserve blame are the ones directly responsible.
@@skachor that foster family cared more about their social standing then that poor little girl! I can't imagine how tortured her birth mother must be!! Giving her up to keep her safe rather than giving up the abusive relationship. My mom did kinda the same but I was 17 and it turned out very successful but her choice hurt as you can imagine.
The fact that he's carrying her coffin, is brewing a different kind of anger ...
RIPP Babygirl 🤍🕊
I can’t imagine the guilt her mother feels. The guilt of putting your child into care would be bad enough, whatever her reasons, but knowing if you’d never done that she’d still be alive would be soul destroying
her mother chose an abusive d*ck over the wellbeing of her own daughter. I hate it that so many singel mothers chose their boyfriend/sexual partner instead of their own child, and then cry crocodile tears. I have zero sympathy for Tialegih's mother.
Um no. Tia’s mom should’ve used birth control instead of birthing 4 kids she would abandon to maintain her sex life with an abusive boyfriend.
i don’t understand what there is to unlike about any of Mike’s videos. what’s with the 1k dislikes? smh. Mike’s one of my favorite creators on here honestly. Mike, I love all your videos and look forward to the new ones every week!! sometimes while i’m waiting i’ll go back and rewatch old ones lol
I think that people may down vote because of the subject matter.
@@smarttrout5562 that makes sense, i didn’t think of that
He got the shite kicked out of him in prison.
Best part of this horrifying story. RIP BABY GIRL RIP.
@@xmikeox Mike says it in his video towards the end.
good. just like gabriel fernandez’s “mother”
@@bia-py2ry she was beaten? so glad to know!
Good. This is like Robert Hughes needing to wear jackets in summer due to the other inmates hurling urine and faeces at him.
@@ausgamecollector eweeee but bhhhaaaaa lol
It’s possible that the father was abusing her, too. And then killed her because he feared he might have impregnated her.
I agree!!!!!!
I am confused though, wouldn't her body show if she had been pregnant? They never mentioned if she was or not just that it was a fear.
@@bedwards6867 they said her body was too decomposed a week after the murder in australian heat, too decomposed to determine cause of death. that also meant: they wouldn't have been able to tell if she was pregnant, asuming the sex was only a couple weeks before the murder.
@@carlcushmanhybels8159 I was under the assumption the abuse had been going on awhile, considering the fathers history with young children, but perhaps that is the reason, I just assumed it would be easy to tell if there was something there or not, maybe some animals got to it also.
Everything is possible
so very sad, and heartbreaking,, poor Tiahleigh,, what's really sad is that she probably trusted her foster parents, and they did this to her,, very sick foster family. :'(
Mike, you just crack me up. Probably the only person i know that could make people laugh during such horribleness. Im so glad i stumbled onto your channel. Cheers!
I'm glad that the inmates gave the son a nice warm welcome :)
What did they do??
@@inkeri2741 🤦♀️
@@inkeri2741 Kicked the living shit out of him.
Yeah but just 4 years for raping and ruining a girls life which also lead to her death is pretty terrible.
@@neobogard He should have got a life sentence. 4 years is pathetic for such serious child sexual abuse. Neither him nor his father should ever have the privilege or freedom to rejoin society.
This poor kid, everywhere she is, she is treated so badly.
the poor little girl didn't stand a chance.
@@suzyrottencrotch5132 Your surname is fitting.
@@ludibrium8154 I’m a professor of logic
@@suzyrottencrotch5132 cringe
@@suzyrottencrotch5132 nah, you're just a troll
I feel bad for Josh bc he honestly seemed terrified to talk bc he thought his dad would kill him too. He was the only good one of the bunch; the rest, including his mother, were monsters. RIP Tia...
Her mom chose to give her up over geting out of a bad relationship? Had she manned up, taken responsibility & cared for her daughter this horrible thing wouldn't have happened.
She was taken from the danger of an abusive man just to be put into the danger of other abusive men AND a mother who didn't care about her. God I am so sick.
Yes, for all the ‘concern’ that mother showed when Tialeigh went missing I call fake. Dumped the kid instead of making a new life with her, nah, drugs much more important. Didn’t listen to her daughter about the sexual abuse, hope she rots in hell. Poor kid.
@@jillgarlick2122 You are confusing the bio mom and foster mom. Bio mom gave her over to ensure her safety. She had no idea about the abuse. Foster mom knew about the abuse and probably even the murder plan.
Thats the world we live in. Horrible isnt it?
the family should get more time... the fact they became a foster family and run a daycare ??? who are the social workers who approved them
It's called small government , cutting back on staff till the social workers are over loaded with work and can't do their job properly . We have money for war but no money for protecting children , mental health or homelessness .
@@romanbrandle319 well duh, we need to save all our money to give to rich people for home improvements. We can’t be wasting it on the needy.
Tia's story really broke me. She is always smiling in her pictures, but behind that smile is a world of pain. Being shifted from home to home only to be handed over to a house full of devils... This little girl was never able to feel safe and secure throughout her short life. There are so many people who would have taken this beautiful little girl into their home and given her the life she deserved. The system failed her. It threw her to a bunch of monsters who wanted her for all the wrong reasons. R.I.P Tia.
Children don't run away from happy families, even foster families.
The whole family was cold and calculating, no tears for Tailiegh they even carried her coffin at the funeral Allow them should have been jailed for so much longer. Poor kid paid the ultimate price for a teen boy who couldn't keep his hands to himself.
I have a feeling that the father agreed to take in Tiahleigh because he had plans to abuse her himself. He was, after all, found to have previously abused other children in the past.
@Sinan Alas
WeLl, I’d only clarify that she was never his kid, period. It wasn’t only in his mind. Fostering a child is not the same thing as them being their kid. They are just a guardian.
Thank the disease of liberalism for the slap on the wrists they got
I hope with your mindset you aren’t around children. It doesn’t take sperm to be a parent
@@davedibin2981 "life without the possibility of parole (but only for 20 years)" That's aome bullshit along with the far too short sentences of the rapist older brother and evil mother.
Indeed it is a twisted worldview that leads to laws like this.
She was failed by everyone who should’ve been protecting her. RIP beautiful girl. So sad.
The worst part (for Cindy) was that she did the right thing. She gave up her daughter that she loves to protect her.
Why would they place a 12 year old girl in a house with teenage boys?
How have I just found this channel? In my opinion is the perfect channel for my tastes in entertainment, more specifically my preferred RUclips content. Please don't ever stop! I would cry!
Isn’t it just amazing how many killers suffer severe memory loss after being caught and just can never seem to remember anything about what happened.
It always pisses me off when i see 100’s of people at a funeral for someone that nobody cared about when they were alive, if even a fraction of those people cared about her before she died she probably wouldn’t have.
on point!
EXACTLY. I can't stand all the false empathy these days.
Not necessarily. You can feel genuine sadness for cases like that. Last summer we got an Amber Alert that gone wrong here in Quebec, I was just crying reading the news. ( That said I don't know why people actually shows up at funerals for people they don't know.... To show their support I guess )
What makes you think any of the people who showed up at the funeral knew Tia in life?
Good to see our children's services living up to their *stellar* reputation.
what else is new?
I keep saying it, but one day, ONE DAY, someone is going to blow the lid off child "so-called" services. One day......
Adult protective services is just as bad or worse.
Um no. Tia’s mom should’ve used birth control instead of birthing 4 kids she would abandon to maintain her sex life with an abusive boyfriend.
That’s the core problem, not an agency enlisted to clean up the messes they made. Use your brain.
I cried and wanted to end some of the Thorburns when I first saw this! I am glad you covered it too. This needs out there! Now to hear your version :)
To answer your question, Yes some people in Australia celebrate Halloween but it's a newer thing and adults like to have the parties more than I hear of kids trick or treating. It has really picked up in popularity over the last decade or so though.
Of the (to date) 65 other videos of you I've gotten through to date... This one is that special kind of disgusting. It's sad to see that to at least some extent the abuse caused the rest to become complicit, a classic case of Stockholm syndrome. Kudos to the first responders and medical staff that brought him back from a quick escape so that he could properly suffer the consequences.
Sounds like the poor child never had a chance.
It’s so unfortunate
Sad
basically...
Honestly this is probably one of the worst cases i have heard on this channel.
Taking the innoncence of a child is one of the lowest things you can do imo.
This is why I'm childfree. So many people just pop out kids with zero regard for their welfare. No stability, no plan for the future, nothing.
“Life without the possibility of parole for twenty years”. That makes no damn sense! The son and mother’s sentences are way too short! Sickening! That poor girl. She endured so much. Truly horrible.
Why do you think the son should have been given a bigger sentence?
@@AlexV6 the justice system here is incredibly weak compared to other countries. I know someone who murdered his girlfriend he was given 7 yrs altogether...
@@leahhuntz6236 " I know someone who murdered his girlfriend he was given 6 yrs altogether..." I guess jury felt she deserved it?
There's a man who only got 56 years for raping and murdering his own daughter in Washington. The wide inconsistencies in every judicial system is sickening.
A single 'life sentence' in Australia is only 25 years 😪
Social Services must be staffed with idiots, placing a 12 year old girl in a house with three grown men non- blood related. Regardless of which of the two initiated the sexual activity, it's not surprising it happened, and the more I think about it and knowing what a train wreck the foster care system is, it almost seems as if the social services agencies make these kinds of ABSOLUTELY STUPID placement decisions ON PURPOSE.
Life without the possibility of parole for 20yrs that doesn’t make sense 🤦♂️
It seems like all these foster kids who end up in shitty foster homes, just get the short end of the stick. Isn't child services supposed to check in with the child/family every so often? Maybe this could have been avoided if someone actually listened to her. Just because she was a child, doesn't mean she didn't know what she was talking about. She just needed someone to listen and love her as a human and not as a paycheck.
R.I.P. Tia
Child Service ___ sucks just about everywhere.
Child services is a joke. I grew up in "state custody" and was in a terrible foster home, I would tell case workers weekly about the abuse done to myself, my sisters and all the other kids who came into that home. After 3 years they allowed the people to adopt us. It wasn't until 8 years after going through tremendous abuse did they finally do something. The foster families lie and say the children are making up the abuse or neglect because they want to go home to their families or so forth. Mine would say I was leaving bruises and wounds on myself to try to get taken off of them intentionally, my 2 older sisters were too afraid to speak up after the first year since they knew it was pointless. I was finally 16 when I watched my adopted mother be arrested and charged with child abuse. At age 20 I got into legal trouble for driving on suspended... my probation officer was my old case worker who ignored my pleas for help. She was in tears apologizing for what happened years prior and for not believing me, because she was related to the foster family and "thought she knew them". Turns out she left the line of work after feeling like she failed me and many other kids. I just wish more would open their eyes and truly investigate when children cry out for help. So many children have ended up dead because CPS failed to do their jobs.this is just 1 story. Imagine how many innocent children are out there right now dealing with pure hell due to CPS not doing their jobs!
Even if checked on, these children often clam up. Whether it is out of fear, or whatever the circumstances, they won't talk about the abuse. They pretend like everything is fine until they implode.
How can you trust an official from the agency that places you in a shifty situation to begin with? Why risk making things worse? What if the foster family finds out the child spoke up, and the abuse worsens? What if they get sent to an _even worse_ foster home?
Who _can_ you trust?
You couldn't imagine what's going through a child's head after they've been through so much. Some of these situations would be difficult for an _adult_ to process...
Just what I think 100%>
@@Ams_5590 Thank you for sharing your experience. I’m truly sorry you had to endure what must have been absolute hell for you. As a survivor of a different type of childhood abuse, I totally understand the ongoing and lifelong trauma it causes. It takes a lot of inner strength to overcome childhood trauma. My heart goes out to you and I hope dearly you come to some level of healing after all you must’ve been through. I hope life is better for you now. Hugs ❤️
Wow! Trent messaging a friend that Tiahleigh forced him to have sex with her otherwise she'd "kill his dog Lewis" is the absolute cherry ontop of disgusting. Even the most gullible person in the world wouldn't believe that 🤦🤢🤮
Sadly, it is plausible. I had a friend who had been abused, and her way of acting out was to get sex. I was asked to talk to her about her putting the moves on. Maybe it was a way of taking control.
@Jim Marbaz Maybe you should look up the word "plausible." If you weren't there, you can't know what happened.
@@scallopohare9431 Are you seriously that naïve? I doubt it....
@@scallopohare9431 she’s 12 and he is a 19 year old man !!!!! Don’t be ridiculous
@@scallopohare9431 Was your friend 12 ????
The police are so talking to the family in the press interviews!
Idk why the word “ Legger “ makes me giggle every time . Bless your heart Mr . Chapter
These cases make me want to foster children more. There’s so many horrible, horrible foster homes. I’d like to be one of the good ones.
That makes two of us. These children already have to deal with why their parents gave them up the least foster homes can do is show them someone cares for them
@@glamglam8347 Me too. Been thinking about it on and off for a few years. For most foster caring is just job and you're not supposed to get attached. I believe this is wrong. As you said hey need to see that there is someone who does want them and will care for them. X
@@markwaldonjohnson A family {UK} down the road used to foster ''Hard to place'' older children, and said girls were much harder work than boys, mainly because of the seedy men they attract {Teenaged girls}..I had no idea that this would be an issue, but it appeared to be a significant problem, that of keeping the girls ''Safe''.
In the end they only had boys, as far 'Easier'.
One boy {Of a different racial profile to them} was with them so many years and fitted in so well he asked if he could be formally adopted by them.
Amazingly it was allowed and he is now their legal son.
They have had lots of broken windows in their house..Fostering is not easy as the children have been so traumatised..but fostering teens is probably as ''Hard'' as it gets.
What happened to Tia is absolutely appalling, reminiscent of a ghastly case here of Becky Watts.
@@Oakleaf700 Yes. My Sister in law said girls are actually harder to foster too. Her siblings grew up in the system and I can see the effect it has had on them. The homes they were in weren't necessarily abusive but they were seen more as a job. But for some I guess the fact they have been abandoned is just too much and they develop a coping strategy which then stops them from being able to love or receive love. So sad.
DO IT.
And to think, Tialeigh’s mom gave her up thinking she’d have a better, more prosperous life💔
@Guerrilla Warfare COD ok incel
@Guerrilla Warfare COD what is wrong with you?
@Guerrilla Warfare COD I do realize arguing with you is going to be pointless but how is this girl's bio mother to blame whatsoever? I get that you think defending her is "tribalism" feminist bs but she did nothing wrong?
@Guerrilla Warfare COD I feel so sorry for you.
Yet she didn't take custody back when she was able to, so had more children and left Tia in foster care. Disgusting. Her "mother" is 100% to blame
Poor little girl, she never stood a chance in life. 😢
You have a way to bring humour into very grim stories without mocking the victims or making light of the situation. Well done 👍
This is actually in the coroners court at the moment, at no stage has the father ever denied sexually assaulting the poor kid, sounds like the entire family are predators.
It feels like the whole family was in on it but when they got caught, they had another "family meeting" and decided to pin the blame on the father so the others would get out in a couple of years. Why have the entire family doing life when just one is enough to take the fall?
@@phebes well said sister
@@phebes 😒 OMGOSH, SO SICK! THAT MOTHER & OLDEST SON DEFINITELY NEED TO BE IN PRISON! OLDEST SON NOT LOCKED UP LONG ENOUGH FOR RAPING YOUNG TAIHLEIGH. THAT
"MOM" IS AS SICK AS THEM! EVIL, ALL OF THEM 😠😠
💜 I'M SO SORRY TAIHLEIGH, MAY GOD HOLD YOU IN HIS LOVING ARM'S. YOU WILL NEVER BE HURT AGAIN ANGEL 🕊️👼🙏💜💜💜
@@katymcginn4644 Tiahleigh*
@@rollinstone6622 oh shut it
The photo of Tiahleigh with her mom, where she's smiling up at her with such love, breaks my heart. Rest in peace now, Tia 😢
She obviously adored her mum. Must have been devastating to be given up for adoption
Those sentences show how far Australia’s justice system has fallen. Absolutely disgusting…
I watch a lot of your videos but you have a few of them that makes me ill, this is one of them 😥 Keep making the videos I'm a long time subscriber, Be safe and always be aware of your surroundings!!
Hearing that Trent got beaten up in prison, fills my heart with joy😇
Shame he survived.
Yessssssss
And it annoys me that hypocritical murderers think they are better than sex offenders.
Whatever happened to treating people with respect? Let’s bring that back.
That ship sailed a long time ago my friend
well, Mike, you have covered a lot of disturbing stories
yet this one is, most likely, one of the most disturbing
you did a good job once again
I can't believe how horrifying this case is! She went to live with a foster family to make her life better and then they abused her and killed her. It's just so sad :(((((
heartbreaking and that mother should also do time for neglect. serious neglect.
@@patrickhamos2987 No. Neglect would be if she _didn't_ put her child into foster care. If she didn't have the money and will to care for her daughter _that_ would be neglect. Hindsight is 20/20.
She was safe being at a foster home until when she turns 18 when she is able enough to decide for her own good rather than being in the home of pervs
Thanks for killing the outcome of the story for me. Selfish prick! I agree tho, if that’s what happened…
@@erockstoenescu6171 How about watch the whole video before going to comments!