The Horrifying Case of Tiahleigh Palmer
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- Опубликовано: 3 июн 2021
- Tiahleigh Palmer lived with the Thorburn family, a foster family, near Brisbane. However, when Tiahleigh disappeared from school one day, the search began. She would be found, but it wouldn't be good and the investigation looked everywhere and found nothing, until an anonymous tip flipped the case on its head.
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It is beyond disgusting to me that during the interviews they all say that 'Tia had sex with Trent', instead of 'Trent raped Tia' like it's all her fault that this happened. She didn't deserve any of this
That’s exactly what I was thinking! And then when he said he “couldn’t look at either of them” , I was like huuuuuh?? There’s such a disconnect it’s disgusting.
We don't have statutory rape laws as strong as America. He was charged with incest and not sexual assault of a minor.
@@annaohare8263 You have rape laws though and this was rape for sure. I guess they couldn't prove it though, this whole story is sickening, I've heard of it before I think I blocked a lot of it out of my head. I hate hearing about things like this done to helpless kids.
@@Nikki_the_G Yeah I'm guessing that they couldn't prove it or the proof wasn't strong enough because we actually are pretty strict regarding statutory rape laws in Australia, so they had to settle charging him with incest instead. It makes me sick that he is out free walking the streets now
I noticed that too. It’s deeply upsetting to see how they’ve justified his actions in their minds.
I think what frustrates me most about this story is every single one of them saying "he had sex with". No. That was not sex. He raped that poor girl. So infuriating
Yeah, grinds my gears. And also this "SHE had sex with him" as if it was her initiative, as if she wanted the rape. All BS. :(
EXACTLY. I’m so glad Mike makes a point in these stories to stress when they call it “sex” it’s actually rape.
Agreed! There is justice for them in the next life. They will not escape
@@elainep8873 you are delicious
Seriously had me screaming....it's not sex, not incest, it's RAPE!!!
Fostered at age 7, murdered at 12.
Human kind failed deeply with Tia.
So sad! My heart cried out loud for her. What has she done to deserve a life like this? This family is so evil.
Absolutely 💯 💯 💯 💯 yeah
You forgot:
Raped at 12
We certainly did...so deeply saddened by Tia's story, god love her..An evil family should have all been lifed off..
As with many others
Knew the mother was in on it as soon as she told the police she said "How could you let that happen?" to Trent, instead of "How could you do that?" Passive language instead of acknowledging his fault.
How can the she blame others, she should have kept that child with her no matter how much she have to struggle.. (that's just me)
“Family meeting: we’re going to kill the foster child.” They’re all responsible.
exactly. that's ridiculous how some here fail to realize this simple fact
Im absolutely not defending anybody. But he murdered her before they had the meeting.
Yup. 10 seconds watching the mother's reaction tells you all you need to know
That’s the most astonishing thing about the whole case. The whole family of psychopaths just agreed that murdering a child who was already horrifically abused was the strategy. I hate them for their cruelty, I hate them for their indifference, and I hate them for their weakness.
@@justintatman2244
Maybe, but they are still in on it.
Further to this tragic story, the father was recently convicted of the sexual abuse of a number of children in the care of his wife’s home daycare centre. In my opinion the wife has a lot to answer for. These stories absolutely break my heart 💔💔💔
At best she turned a bind eye, at worst she was supplying him the kids, either way makes her very complicit
Just appalling and boy was her mum on the money about not living with 2 teenage lads!
I wouldn’t be surprised if he sexually abused his own children as well. Sick, evil man.
Yes he mentions that briefly in this video.
@@lilyt18 Or the victim, Tia. If Trent, a grown adult man, had “sex” (it’s rape, even if Tia agreed to it) with Tia I’m sure Rick could’ve done stuff too. The entire family is disgusting. They all murdered her by failing to do the right thing and Trent being charged for what he did. Instead Rick decides to “take care of it” and killed an innocent child that they were supposed to protect.
I keep Tia's picture on my planning board. Her story keeps me going when I am discouraged in my journey to buy a larger house and become a foster mom. No matter her troubles or trauma, Tia deserved a safe home. We as adults have failed, and everyday children like Tia pay the price.
🙏 I hope you are able to help many children. Best wishes ♥️
Yes
That's a noble thing to do, and you will be blessed with a big housem & foster children that will be blessed to have you ♥
This is beautiful but so sad it's needed. Thank you for your wonderful dream. My little brother was abused in the foster system before we got him...among other things he was left in his car seat so long the back of his head was flat. He has trauma that resonates to this day. The world needs more people like you. Thank you and I'm sending you love, prayers and wishes that your dream becomes a reality.
I hope you get what’s needed to foster children. They need someone like you, more people like you.
The Mother committed conspiracy pure and simple. Where’s THAT justice!
She did a year and a half? Do people not understand how these things work??
@@fuckRUclipsBringBackDislikes we heard that. Year and a half isn’t enough
She probably saved herself from that by not being present in the house when the murder took place. If she'd been there I think she would have picked up a conspiracy charge, if not be a codefendant to the murder charge. Australian law is relatively similar to US in regard to those offences, even if the court proceedings have some differences.
Can’t BELIEVE that vile excuse for a human fucking being carried that precious baby’s casket after robbing her of her life! There’s a special place in Hell for monsters like him. This case is absolutely heartbreaking. Everyone failed her and she never really had a a chance. RIP Tiahleigh🕊
Yeah. 😔
That enraged me!
They say our world is becoming overpopulated. Those committing murder and sex crimes against children should be the first to give up their space and air. I don’t want to share with this bastard.
@@treasurehunter3193 absolutely!!!
@@ArbitraryFilmings agreed..... this one hurt my soul. I feel achey and sad..... 😥
The irony over 600 people at her funeral...but no one to turned to when she needed it help ...society failed her , heartbreaking
Exactly. The definition of "care" in many families seems to be having their kids name or face printed on stupid T-shirts at their funeral, rather than putting the child's needs FIRST, from birth - and raising them properly. It's too late to show "love" once the child is gone.
well first of all, her Mom failed her. Don't have kids if you're not capable of taking care of them
@@michaela9967 sometimes people don't know this till it's too late :(
@@michaela9967 you can say that but sometimes you think you can. You think you have the right capabilities and support systems and then realize after the baby is born you can't, and that parenthood is way harder than anyone tells you it is.
Mum thought she was doing the right thing giving her up because she couldn't take care of her. Unfortunately the people who were supposed to take care that baby were demons in the flesh.
Foster "care" can be a child's worst nightmare.
This was heart wrenching. What a horrible, tragic life this little angel lived.
What a nightmare. A vulnerable mum trying to do the right thing, and a middle class family of monsters in essence grinds up and devours her child like the junk food they peddled. I am horrified and so sorry for this poor young girl.
All because of money
She did nothing when she was told by her daughter she was being sexually abused.
worst
family
ever
The person at child protection services who ignored the reported abuse had a duty of care to get Tia out of that situation. They should have stood trial also.
Precisely !! But why is it that every time something like this happens, and Dear God it happens far too often, the people responsible for looking out for these children never seem to be punished ?
Yes absolutely all on trial 😢😢😫😇🌺☮️rip 😇 kind angel
It The judges that have the final word not the workers. Some y’all need to do more research before you make yourself sound stupid on social media. All those workers are way overworked and underpaid. Trust me I know first hand. Meanwhile the states conservatives are at home in the air conditioned making 100,000 a year and the workers who are getting kicked, pinched and spit on by these kids are not even making half that and have to work their asses off for a small salary and put in 60 hours a week to be glorified babysitter because the state don’t want to find proper placement/homes for them. Some y’all have no clue what really goes on.
@@Jordanfiend361 what are you talking about...foster carers are paid over 450 a week for each child and for kids with special needs much more...social services deliberately ignore abuse in foster placements as they don’t want to admit they take kids from loving homes and put them with abusers. The system is broken and diseased from the core.
@@Jordanfiend361 Overworked and underpaid ? So is everyone !!
If you're paid to protect a child, PROTECT THEM !! Don't blame it on the judges, in MY personal experience they almost never go against the recommendations of the case worker. Maybe you should do more research before you spout off about others looking stupid.
That poor girl betrayed by absolutely everyone. Even by life itself.
He had to do it...to protect his family's reputation!
@@Scorch428 Troll
@@StamfordBridge Woulsn't say a troll probably sarcasm
I don't know why, but stories about young girls like this absolutely destroy me. This poor girl...
@@generalgrievous262 Hope so. Still doesn’t quite work as a response here.
@13:30 That unnatural mother, telling about when her son confessed a “sexual encounter “ with Tiah. “Oh mate how could you *let* something *like that* happen?”
I’m an Aussie, live quite close to all the named sites, but I’ve never heard that particular little gem before.
I don’t think there’s many people who hear of sending a twelve year old girl into a foster situation with two teenage males and don’t think it’s a bad idea. If it’s been a long term foster and they’ve grown up as brother and sister, that’s one thing. But at the ages of all the children, when the foster care started it shouldn’t have happened.
I lived 15 minutes away from where they lived and it’s always hit so close to home, Tia didn’t deserve any of this and at the beginning of this I was already calling the family POS because well, they are! Trent should’ve gotten more time, and when the report came out that he was beaten up in jail, well that made me smile he deserves it and more. I hope Rick is getting the same treatment. That family can burn in hell.
RIP Tia you beautiful soul, I wish you never had to go through this, you would have still been alive today ❤️❤️
“Tia demanded sex or else she’d kill our dog” Absolutely horrible liar.
That's why he got 4 years. He's acting like a juvenile.
@@Scorch428 Please that's an obvious lie
I skipped that part of the video, and now I am glad I did.
@@Scorch428 you’re sick
Jaba the Hutt here has bars around his property like it is a jail, so . . .
My dad would LITERALLY, in the most legit sense of the word, kill me if I did anything CLOSE to this and then go to jail for it. This is disgusting. That's not saving your child, it's enabling it. Legit disgusting.
This is such a sad story. That poor little girl.
Same dude and I live in a 3rd world country where our culture is called "Backward"
This is close to me and exposes the how society is all about apearance's
If you really beleive it had anything to do with 'saving' his son, you really have no insight into the sort of character Rick Thorburn is.
@New Guy. Weren't you listening?
Of course, considering the father also molested a bunch of smaller kids from his wife's in-home daycare... it's not even a matter of protecting his child. It's just a monster finding excuses to destroy anything that threatens him.
Such a Heart breaking story! 😢 The social services are partly to blame for that. It wasn't a good idea to put a young girl of that age in a home with two teenage boys not knowing anything about them or the family. That was a no no. Poor little girl 😢 So So Sad 😢🤧
Her mom failed her, her biological dad failed her, the system failed her, these foster monsters failed and destroyed her by taking advantage of her vulnerable state. She had nobody to turn to and these monsters knew it. Just because it’s possible to take advantage of someone in a vulnerable situation, doesn’t mean you should. These foster monsters should’ve all been given life in prison or the death penalty. I cringed when I heard the sentencing for the mother and sons. Poor Tia never had a chance!!!😔😔😔
This is too sad. Everyone failed that kid.
THE mother especially
@@piva1358 not her biological mother? The foster mother, yes
@@binnes117 her biological mom chose to do drugs, party and dump her responsibilities for the child she chose to bring into the world of on the system. She ABSOLUTELY failed her daughter. Are you kidding me???
Literally everyone. Sooo sad.
@@binnes117 the biological mom should have been responsible enough to take child out of the family after hearing about the abuse.
The fact they tried to paint her as a troubled child, bc she would run away but she was trying to escape. My heart was heavy watching this bc she didn't deserve this.
If only she could've got to someone to tell them what was going on and them actually do something about it. It's so heartbreaking that her mother gave her up to give her a better life and these pieces of ish did this do her. I hope the father and son gets battered daily.
Yes, this one made me really sad. This poor, beautiful little girl was just handed off to those monsters. How sick and warped is that entire family?!
That is the worst life a person could be dealt in my opinion. Born to parents that don't want you then given to people like this while going through your most important development years as a person. I don't see how anybody could be normal growing up this way that beyond sad and shows how unfair life can be.
yah their version of child protective services is as inept as the United States'....
@@robbybee70 it's honestly a desperate situation especially now in the US with the opioid epidemic. There are so many children going into the system and not enough families to take them. The ones that would be good parents usually don't apply to become foster parents for whatever reasons and unfortunately many that do don't for the best reasons of the children. It's a sad situation most people aren't even aware of they need to make adoption easier for American parents. But because of the difficulties many go overseas to adopt. I have a family member that works as a social worker she has a big heart and that job crushed her so to speak.
Both Tia and her mother were strikingly beautiful (obviously that doesn’t matter - the story is just entirely heartbreaking) - what that disgusting monster did to Tia makes me so furious. She was thrown to the wolves, and that sociopath acted like he was heartbroken. That girl deserved a chance in life and that “good boy” stole her life.
I remember this happening, I live just around the corner from Marsden High school where Tia went to school. The place they found her body me and my family were fishing/visiting just weeks before. This death put a hold on the whole of Logan, we were all searching and when everyone found out she'd died the whole of Marsden High held a day in her honour. Such a sad way for a beautiful young girl to go. This left a mark on our whole city and we'll all always remember this girl.
I hate stories about kids where every adult failed them miserably and in turn , never really stood a chance at a decent life. Everybody deserves a damn chance!
😞..💖
Poor babies never get a chance...they really do deserve a chance..
@Andy White the "system" freaking sucks
Well said😪
@@starlightsparkles4697 yeah that’s why it’s important to vote!! It’s the judges who fail these children and not the child protective workers, Those workers are way underpaid and overworked trust me I know first hand. Sad the rich conservative higher ups makes all the decisions. They rather spend millions on housing children in Random hotels with other bad kids having sex and all kinds of nonsense while the workers are getting punched and kicked and spit on by these kids and made into glorified baby sitters just because the state refuses to find them proper placement/homes. It’s very sad. Please vote for better judges and state representatives.
The killer acting as pallbearer at his victim's funeral, wearing a purple shirt to blend in with those grieving for the child he murdered. I'd give him twenty years for that alone.
Exactly thier home is full of narcissistic people all should fry
This happened to my friends Dad. His friends shot and killed him over a bottle of pills, was a pallbearer and only got 5 years! Disgraceful!
The worst kind of person is someone who will kill another then go to their funeral and cry like there is a special place in hell for you if you do that
that was the scariest part of this case.
I like your cat picture
Sorry but I think dad Rick may well have been abusing Tia himself giving his own history - also, his own younger son said his father would murder him if he tried to protect Tia! Josh knew his father was a psychopath.
That poor girl went from one nightmarish world straight into one much even worse . What an evil family through and through.
_Trent got beat up in prison_
*Everyone liked that.*
But...but... =(
Not enough...
not the dead girl
Recently a facebook post has gone around telling girls to be aware of his Tinder account, but disgustingly a lot of women don’t care about what he did.
I'm sorry but I would beat the hell out of him too, being 18 looking like Justin Bieber tried out for bts and failed. 😂
The fact they said she ran away often is a huge red flag. Disgusting this poor child was put with these monsters
Your right the dad was a terrible person. Prob beat his wife and maybe her. No one defending him. My dad used to beat me with a belt till I was bleeding and broke my nose a few times. But as a 8 year old child I couldn't stop him if he hit my mother. He never did just making a point a child is scared of his father.
Not necessarily. It’s not unusual for foster children to run away but it really depends on diagnosis, history etc. it’s not just a sign of abuse.
@@roninkraut6873 My Mother was raised in foster homes along with her 6 siblings I know it can be bad
Might sound wrong but I would want too foster A girl cause listening to what my mom and her sisters went through. Just rather a girl shouldn't have to go through that.
@@drxcyclopessdrx3920
For sure. Foster care can really be misunderstood. I don’t know which is worse, being abused/neglected by your bio parents or by foster parents? Both are awful and I wish it never happened
I really feel for the bio mother in this case. Was she a good mum? No, clearly not. But she knew that, she loved her daughter and knew that she wasn't able to give Tiah the life she deserved. She trusted the care system to keep her safe and find her a loving home. But instead Tiah was handed over to monsters.
I admire the mothers admittance that she was incapable of looking after her child, as so many children have to suffer under the care of unfit parents. But the care system is broken. There are too many examples of tragic cases. Tiah, bless her. She deserved so much better from life.
I’m sick and tired of women like you. Her mom literally chose Dick over her own daughter. You feel sorry for her? Great. Just continue To give “mothers” like this a free ride and slap on the wrist so that the system can keep cleaning up their messes and more kids can be murdered because god forbid these worthless whores use sex toys instead of needing Dick over their own kids. Right. It’s the “system” that failed Tia.
I don't feel bad for her because she completely failed her daughter.
@@Joelswinger34 are you serious? She failed her by trying to give her a better life? Cindy did not and could not have known she would be MURDERED. You are disgusting. Grow up.
The mom caused this situation. She should get life in prison because she is the one that put little Tiah in this situation. Disgusting how anyone can feel sorry for th person who caused their child to be raped and murdered.
@@Joelswinger34 are you that arrogant?
Just when I think I have something to complain about, I hear a tragic story like Tia's. Her mother Cindy's fatalism led her into drugs and homelessness. Sad. I don't know her story. She tried to do right by Tia given her downward spiral. Thought she was protecting Tia from herself. Didn't realize those who were to protect Tia were harmful and deadly. RIP Tia. Blessings.
The fact that Trent confessed to doing that to the poor girl and yet wasn’t charged nor did he face any extended time in jail shows that this is an international problem of under-punishing such heinous crimes against kids.
Yes! And so many times foster children are treated as disposable.. it’s bullshit.. poor kid didn’t choose her situation.
And that crime lead to her death. it was heinous enough to kill her yet he got away with everything.
He did get charged with perjury, interfering with the course of justice and incest. He got four years, of which he probably served a minute amount. And while his ass did get beaten whilst in jail, I think he should've been charged with her death as well, murder three (it is a charge), and should've served a lot more time (which would've meant a lot more ass whoopings.) RIP Tia, I'm so,so sorry everyone failed you.
Abortion for the win.
The western “justice” system is committed to white privilege and supremacy, and allowing white men to do whatever they want and to whomever with simply a slap on the wrist
How can this woman talk about the rape and murder of a child like she's talking about shopping. Evil.
Or like he just made a mistake, and what do you do with mistakes? Erase them! Shocking in its selfishness.
Maybe it was because she treated it like shopping when picking a foster kid. They were shopping for a victim. Sick
@Salty Syren A lot of them aren't even damaged. They are simply just incapable of feeling any emotion except 2. Happiness they are getting what they want or anger that they aren't.
That foster 'mother' got off lightly. She knew but did not protect the child from evil. What a horrible family.
True dat!!! Gets me sooo mad 😡🤬🤬 poor lil girl... She have done nothing wrong.. She was taken in a very cruel way... 😪
I've said it before and I'll say it again "eyewitnesses" cannot be trusted at all. No one should ever go to jail based only on an eyewitness as people make stuff or create false memories all the time. We think our memories are like recording devices but in reality, every time we think about an event we remember it differently, as we remember remembering it and not the original memory.
They send people to jail after picking someone out from photographs based on a stranger they saw for moments during a high-stress crime. Now, these kids at school knew this girl and say they saw her when she was not there. They were convinced they saw her that day. That is how unreliable our memories are as they could just as easily remember seeing someone they know at a crime scene when they were not there. So imagine how much worse it gets when they are trying to remember someone they don't know.
You are so right. Compare with science where eyewitness is the lowest form of evidence.
I have extremly good memory (99,75 %-ile) when I actively memorise. Still, when it comes to typical non spectacular eyewitness situations, I remember them as bad as everybody else.
Well done Mike, you can easily tell you wasn’t comfortable at all doing this story but you did it with honour xxx RIP Tia xx
One of the more horrifying stories I’ve seen on here. These people literally discussed how they were going to get rid of her, like she was dirty laundry or a bag of trash. Simply horrific
and that poor girl was treated that way her entire, short life. I wonder if she ever had a happy day not having to worry about something
I'm sure if on those rare days she was happy the thought of no1 truly caring was always lingering. That was my case anyways. I was never truly happy I just pretended to be. It's a survival mechanism.
@@DavidSmith-fg5su I'm really sorry you feel like this..So many people suffered as children. It isn't fair or right.
It was a very huge story here in Australia and very sad. I'm surprised they were even allowed to foster care because we have very strict rules and regulations and red tape that it makes it very hard. I spoke to one of the foster care organisations managers and she said I wouldn't be approved because I had some clutter neatly arranged but no space for it to go in a cupboard. My home isn't dirty and it is kept neat and tidy but just that pile would be enough to not be approved, oh and also 1 small window in my house had a white sheet as a curtain at the time because I hadn't found the specific size curtain needed for that window. I would have to fix that LOL
Nope
“I told her to stay in her room and put herself to bed”... that poor girl had no one caring for her
Right!??! I'm seriously furious the foster "mom" only got 18 fucking months!!! You get more in the US for selling drugs! She deserves LITERALLY everything bad that happens to her for the rest of her life.
That one really broke my heart. How alone she must have felt. My son is 13, almost 14 and I still at night get his bed ready, often we talk and laugh before he goes to sleep and I always still kiss him on the forehead as I have all his life and I tell him how much I love him, and yeah he is a very typical teenager but I know deep down he appreciates this and wants it also cause also I am his only parent. Every child deserves at least one person in their life that will do anything for them, love them unconditionally no matter what and go to any lengths for them and their safety and welfare and that will always have a time for them also. It is so heartbreaking that Tia didn´t have anybody, she was all alone and placed with 4 monsters and one monster raped her and other monster killed her !!!!
@@IrisFlowerAndRainbow It's so nice to know that some kids have such a loving parent!
@@alexalandy8714 Thank you so much for saying that ❤ Lots of love from Iceland to you ❤🇮🇸
I feel bad for her mother having to live with the fact that she thought she was giving her daughter a better chance at life by putting her in foster care and having to live with that lose
I don't. She could have pulled herself together and gotten sober, or just not had a child she couldn't care for.
@@Joelswinger34she was a victim of domestic violence. Watch this again and blame the beater.
@@susanelaine1644 I have mixed feelings about the mom., I actually think I just don’t have enough information to really have an opinion … on one hand, she sent her daughter away at first bc of the abusive relationship, but then instead of working on making things better for herself so she could get her daughter back (safely), she turned to drugs … but at the same time, people DO have things happen to them that destroy their lives, and having kids doesn’t make anyone immune from that … I guess I’d really want to know more about her situation. Did she choose the abusive man over her daughter? Some people have options, but choose to stay with their abuser out of “love” 🙄 or was she in a lose/ lose situation? Was the drug use a result of wanting to party, or was she given a prescription for something and was addicted before she realized it? There are so many variables where the mom is concerned that I can’t truly sympathise with her, or blame her. Either way, I do feel badly for her in that her life was obviously a mess, and now she has to live with this, regardless of if she could have done something to stop it or not.
The sentences seem so minor in this case. I truly hope the daycare children received the help they needed to have the best chance of a healthy life after the tragedy's the had suffered in that home. As for the boys, growing up in that sort of environment obviously affected their decisions. With that said, they all had a choice and they choose poorly. Life is hard and I don’t pretend to understand the dynamics of this situation. But, I do think listening to stories that Mike puts out will help some who may be currently naïve to trouble and have others rethink their behaviors. Thank you Mike for your narratives.
“We have to protect Trent.” Most disgusting sentence of this video
Yep, that family's priority was to protect the 19 year old rapist, not his 12 year old victim. They all belong in jail for life! It's utterly sickening that vulnerable child was delivered on a plate to her rapists and murderer.
I know. Trent was doing an excellent job of protecting his whining, lying, self serving self.
But I think the dad wanted to also protect himself because if the authorities came to investigate the rape of Tia, they'd also find out about the dad abusing the dayhome kids so it was also out of self preservation too. Pieces of shit, the lot of them.
@@kikidee6033 He was probably worried he was the dad too. Sick family put em all down oxygen thieves. World would not mourn the loss of any 1 of them
I know Tialeighs Paternal Father Andy well, there is more to this case anyway one disgusting point about self preservation with that Trent was he accused Tialeigh of threatening to kill his dog if he did not sleep with her, the lying rat, it just goes to show how narcissistic these people really are he got off basically Scott free couple of months in jail no problem...What sort of imbecile in child safety would put a teenage girl in a house with 2 teenage boys anyway unbelievably stupid...Rip sweet girl Tia...⚘
I’m kind of saddened by the huge number of people who showed up after she was dead than the people who helped her when she was alive. She obviously was running away for a reason and no one took it seriously. I know foster care case workers are over worked and the system is horrible. The fact that everyone in her life who was supposed to protect her ended up leaving her, failing, and hurting her is just so sad.
good point
I think Rick had abused Tiah as well.
When there's cameras running everyone's surrounding the victim with love...SHAMEFUL shit indeed
Kids run away for little reasons all the time. My own sister ran away because she didn't want to have a curfew when she was 14 or so.
Hindsight is 20/20. I can imagine just how many kids in the foster system just don't want to be in the home they're placed in. Having a family forced upon you who may be nothing like what you are used to, who don't connect with you because you're just different. Not bad or a problem child, just different.
The fact that cps needs to exist is a tragedy in itself, and all the good intentions people have can only go so far.
I'm sure there's a caseworker out there whose shoulders carry a lot of guilt over misreading Tia's plight. But the only people who deserve blame are the ones directly responsible.
@@skachor that foster family cared more about their social standing then that poor little girl! I can't imagine how tortured her birth mother must be!! Giving her up to keep her safe rather than giving up the abusive relationship. My mom did kinda the same but I was 17 and it turned out very successful but her choice hurt as you can imagine.
I used to live in Logan, this case is devastating and made me realise how fucked our docs system is, as someone who grew up in foster care it really broke me hearing about this case. You’re the first channel I’ve seen cover this case, so thank you
Have you done a story about Zahra Baker? That is a sad sad story, it happened in Hickory NC, which is where I live but she and her dad was from Australia as well.
Childhood bone cancer,
Deafness from the chemo,
Leg loss from the cancer,
Wood chipper, yea it is a lot to take in.
The fact that he's carrying her coffin, is brewing a different kind of anger ...
RIPP Babygirl 🤍🕊
The photo of Tiahleigh with her mom, where she's smiling up at her with such love, breaks my heart. Rest in peace now, Tia 😢
She obviously adored her mum. Must have been devastating to be given up for adoption
In what world was it okay to send a 12 year old girl to a home with 2 teenage boys?? As soon as I saw the family pic, it was INSTANT RED FLAG. Should have never happened, it's sickening and entirely preventable.
I love how in Australia even mothers call their sons "mate."
They do in the uk too at least some do
We call everyone mate, I call my dog, my son, the guy at the servo, my boss, everyone mate. It's a great default word.
@@007BlondeAussie Aha, so thats where the word 'mating' came from.
I work in the legal industry and even my bosses/professional colleagues call me mate...and I'm a girl!
The fact that were more than 300 sex offenders only in one locality is already appaling enough
Logan is big
Every city in the world has those kinds of numbers and just a small percentage are ever caught. I do not let my kids out of my sight.
Not surprising since between 1788 and 1868, about 162,000 convicts were transported from Britain and Ireland to various penal colonies in Australia and almost 20% of modern Australians, in addition to 2 million Britons, are descended from transported convicts.
Oh and that many convicts were also sent to the US from Britain as well. If you look up the history, you will see that around 52,000 were sent to America and they settled mostly in the US. You have a look at our crime rate and the deaths related to crime, you will see our stats is so much lower. We don't have drive by shootings or shootings in nearly every area, ha we don't have a high stabbing rate either. Its also rare for us to get any mass shootings. Our last mass shooting occurred back in 1996. We have had a few horrible incidents since then but nothing on a massive acale such as what they get in the US. Our kids are safe in school cause their is limited risk of a kid coming in and shooting each other
My thought exactly
It's a shame how many people failed this poor girl. She deserved so much better.. 😞
@Arna Cook So you actually lived near her at the time?
Starting with her mother..
This is just the world we live in. This happens all over the world, there is always someone who is falling through the cracks of society.
@@IChIDH her mother gave her up because she knew she couldn’t keep her safe. Her mother did the absolute right thing
@@TheJillers her mothers actions directly lead to her death, how could it have been the absolute right thing? Unbelievable.
I’m not even 5 minutes in and my heart is broken. This poor baby girl deserved better.
How have I just found this channel? In my opinion is the perfect channel for my tastes in entertainment, more specifically my preferred RUclips content. Please don't ever stop! I would cry!
It always pisses me off when i see 100’s of people at a funeral for someone that nobody cared about when they were alive, if even a fraction of those people cared about her before she died she probably wouldn’t have.
on point!
EXACTLY. I can't stand all the false empathy these days.
Not necessarily. You can feel genuine sadness for cases like that. Last summer we got an Amber Alert that gone wrong here in Quebec, I was just crying reading the news. ( That said I don't know why people actually shows up at funerals for people they don't know.... To show their support I guess )
What makes you think any of the people who showed up at the funeral knew Tia in life?
"And Julie ran a daycare out of the house." Uh-oh...
That’s EXACTLY what I said! ‘Uh oh’ indeed 😑😬😓
And Rick was accused of sexual abuse of kids in her care.
So she was an enabler of the 'men's in her family when it came to their despicable behaviour
@@dshe8637 she must get some thrill out of it. It's like a family of psychos poor girl
Never ever leave your kids in an at home daycare! Period.
That really scared the life out of me when I heard that.
Mike, you just crack me up. Probably the only person i know that could make people laugh during such horribleness. Im so glad i stumbled onto your channel. Cheers!
WHY do people like this have kids?!!! What can they POSSIBLY teach them?!! Poor Tia.....
This story is worse than the dude that put his mom’s head in a pot. And that was crazy as hell. Everybody needs to go to jail imo. Camera man too
Yup! All of’em, including the morons at CPS (with the ironic name “dept of child safety”)! At least that weirdo Joel Micheal was solely responsible, here there are many ppl who got away with no punishment
Agreed!
Their mail man and milk man as well
Right! I didn’t think we could get worse than that one, yet here we are with this story.
Yeah that guy lived in my town not far from my parents house actually. Very strange and horrific case.
That one boy making the claim in his message that she threatened to kill his dog if he didnt sleep with her is disgusting. Lying about the situation and shaming her in death to make himself appear more innocent. Real p.o.s.
He was giving such bullshit. I'm glad the person he sent it to gave the info to the police. Thank God one person didn't buy this bullshit.
@@Ant509y yeah but where was their call to crime stoppers before the reward was offered? I wonder if they claimed it?
And to think that POS only got 4 years and is off continuing his life. Disgusting!
Ruthless bastard!
How do we know he lied? I could be wrong but I believe he sent those messages before she died, so that's not "shaming her in death", either.
Obviously she didn't deserve death, but that doesn't make him a liar.
You have a way to bring humour into very grim stories without mocking the victims or making light of the situation. Well done 👍
Poor girl breaks my heart deeply
She was taken from the danger of an abusive man just to be put into the danger of other abusive men AND a mother who didn't care about her. God I am so sick.
Yes, for all the ‘concern’ that mother showed when Tialeigh went missing I call fake. Dumped the kid instead of making a new life with her, nah, drugs much more important. Didn’t listen to her daughter about the sexual abuse, hope she rots in hell. Poor kid.
@@jillgarlick2122 You are confusing the bio mom and foster mom. Bio mom gave her over to ensure her safety. She had no idea about the abuse. Foster mom knew about the abuse and probably even the murder plan.
Thats the world we live in. Horrible isnt it?
the family should get more time... the fact they became a foster family and run a daycare ??? who are the social workers who approved them
It's called small government , cutting back on staff till the social workers are over loaded with work and can't do their job properly . We have money for war but no money for protecting children , mental health or homelessness .
@@romanbrandle319 well duh, we need to save all our money to give to rich people for home improvements. We can’t be wasting it on the needy.
Thank you for all your hard work mike. stay safe out there, because we indeed Love Ya!
I watch a lot of your videos but you have a few of them that makes me ill, this is one of them 😥 Keep making the videos I'm a long time subscriber, Be safe and always be aware of your surroundings!!
I'm not a big fan of people in general, but people who hurt kids and/or animals... They are a special kind of garbage.
Cheers mate. There are some of us nice folks out there. However, I can be cruel, but I want to be kind at the end of the day. Continue to try
I am with you on all accounts!
There's a special place for them in hell waiting for them!
...AND the elderly, AND special needs😢
I have zero mercy for those who prey on our most vulnerable.
My heart aches. That poor girl, tossed around in the world like a rag doll until finally that POS tossed her out like trash because she was inconvenient.
So true. They're despicable, all of them.
Another cracking video Mike, love your work. Everything you upload is ALWAYS brilliant stuff. Thank you.
You are an excellent story teller Mike. Thanks!
How Disgusting To Carry Her Casket Right After You Killed Her 😩
Psycho in my opinion
Yep that sticks in my craw too.
Good to see our children's services living up to their *stellar* reputation.
what else is new?
I keep saying it, but one day, ONE DAY, someone is going to blow the lid off child "so-called" services. One day......
Adult protective services is just as bad or worse.
Um no. Tia’s mom should’ve used birth control instead of birthing 4 kids she would abandon to maintain her sex life with an abusive boyfriend.
That’s the core problem, not an agency enlisted to clean up the messes they made. Use your brain.
Great work with your commentary.... you are one of the funniest people on RUclips... I get all your jokes and they're great !!!!! Keep up the great work !!!!
Do love your videos along with your dry sense of humour you have but you always keep it real. Keep up the great work you do.
The system failed this poor child. They were notified about the abuse and didn't immediately act.
Scary to think how many more out there that have gone under the radar thanks to such incompetence!
Yeah kinda like what happen to Gabriel Fernandez, it’s just absolutely sick sick sick sick fk up mentally deranged coward individuals. I couldn’t finish his documentary bc it pissed me off so much. It is just absolutely despicable absolutely senseless, and deranged
Euclid ave in S.D? Lol
It is worse than incompetence, it is indifference.
It seems like all these foster kids who end up in shitty foster homes, just get the short end of the stick. Isn't child services supposed to check in with the child/family every so often? Maybe this could have been avoided if someone actually listened to her. Just because she was a child, doesn't mean she didn't know what she was talking about. She just needed someone to listen and love her as a human and not as a paycheck.
R.I.P. Tia
Child Service ___ sucks just about everywhere.
Child services is a joke. I grew up in "state custody" and was in a terrible foster home, I would tell case workers weekly about the abuse done to myself, my sisters and all the other kids who came into that home. After 3 years they allowed the people to adopt us. It wasn't until 8 years after going through tremendous abuse did they finally do something. The foster families lie and say the children are making up the abuse or neglect because they want to go home to their families or so forth. Mine would say I was leaving bruises and wounds on myself to try to get taken off of them intentionally, my 2 older sisters were too afraid to speak up after the first year since they knew it was pointless. I was finally 16 when I watched my adopted mother be arrested and charged with child abuse. At age 20 I got into legal trouble for driving on suspended... my probation officer was my old case worker who ignored my pleas for help. She was in tears apologizing for what happened years prior and for not believing me, because she was related to the foster family and "thought she knew them". Turns out she left the line of work after feeling like she failed me and many other kids. I just wish more would open their eyes and truly investigate when children cry out for help. So many children have ended up dead because CPS failed to do their jobs.this is just 1 story. Imagine how many innocent children are out there right now dealing with pure hell due to CPS not doing their jobs!
Even if checked on, these children often clam up. Whether it is out of fear, or whatever the circumstances, they won't talk about the abuse. They pretend like everything is fine until they implode.
How can you trust an official from the agency that places you in a shifty situation to begin with? Why risk making things worse? What if the foster family finds out the child spoke up, and the abuse worsens? What if they get sent to an _even worse_ foster home?
Who _can_ you trust?
You couldn't imagine what's going through a child's head after they've been through so much. Some of these situations would be difficult for an _adult_ to process...
Just what I think 100%>
@@Ams_5590 Thank you for sharing your experience. I’m truly sorry you had to endure what must have been absolute hell for you. As a survivor of a different type of childhood abuse, I totally understand the ongoing and lifelong trauma it causes. It takes a lot of inner strength to overcome childhood trauma. My heart goes out to you and I hope dearly you come to some level of healing after all you must’ve been through. I hope life is better for you now. Hugs ❤️
Thank you Mike for your story telling on such a brutal crime.
Truly sickening case. Poor baby girl. No one stood by her. No one was there to protect her or to save her.
Starting who should have above all, her sorry stupid biological mother.
I am super confused what government agency would put a young girl in foster home with 2 teenage boys and no other girls
What are you suggesting, that all girls with only older brothers are taken into care? I appreciate what your line of reasoning is, but the incidence of older brothers molesting their younger sister(s) is very rare.
What if you had 300 kids to take care of/monitor. This happens a LOT. The idea is that all kids can be placed in a safe environment......The truth is the supply of kids grossly outnumbers safe places to live. It's a supply/demand issue.
This was my question. I was a social worker for foster care and we NEVER would have done that
You act like government actually cares about people lmao
@@donicegreen7340 well if you'd "never" place a girl with a family that has only boys older than the girl that would cut out a significant percentage of potential families.
And what difference would it _actually_ make if there were _only_ older brothers v a family with older brothers and also a sister(s)? Wouldn't the brothers be more likely to target the fostered/ adopted girl anyway, regardless of the age of their blood sister(s)?
Taking it a step further maybe you should only place girls in familes that _only_ have girls? .... And no resident father either? And you'll want to check out the neighbours in case any of them are "creepy" too. And of course you should eliminate any family from consideration if they live witin half a mile of a registered sex offender.
You _can't_ eliminate _all_ the risk, no matter how hard you try, and I sincerely doubt that "older brothers and no sisters" is a risk category that holds up to actual scruitiny.
I like your videos…you’re my 3rd favorite true crimer and that’s actually a compliment because I watch a ton of them
I just wanna say that ur channel, Mike, is my all time favorite channel on youtube!!! U r one of the best narrators I've ever listened to!!! I have a suggestion for a case to cover. Chris watts. I've seen some videos on that case already but I'd love to hear ur take on the whole thing, if u ever get time or may be interested
Guy wanted to save the reputation of his kid so he killed someone and got his entire family arrested. Solid logic.
Seems like exactly it
It's suspected the father was also sexually abusing her.
@@amariluna would not surprise me in the least, what a family of monsters.
“Life without the possibility of parole for twenty years”. That makes no damn sense! The son and mother’s sentences are way too short! Sickening! That poor girl. She endured so much. Truly horrible.
Why do you think the son should have been given a bigger sentence?
@@AlexV6 the justice system here is incredibly weak compared to other countries. I know someone who murdered his girlfriend he was given 7 yrs altogether...
@@leahhuntz6236 " I know someone who murdered his girlfriend he was given 6 yrs altogether..." I guess jury felt she deserved it?
There's a man who only got 56 years for raping and murdering his own daughter in Washington. The wide inconsistencies in every judicial system is sickening.
A single 'life sentence' in Australia is only 25 years 😪
I cried and wanted to end some of the Thorburns when I first saw this! I am glad you covered it too. This needs out there! Now to hear your version :)
To answer your question, Yes some people in Australia celebrate Halloween but it's a newer thing and adults like to have the parties more than I hear of kids trick or treating. It has really picked up in popularity over the last decade or so though.
This is literally up the road from where I live and I feel like I've learned more from this than what the local News told.
As a former foster child I know what it's like to be abused and have nobody believe you. This poor little girl never had a chance to grow up. 💔
Me too, it was terrible! As a mother myself now I devote my life to them so they'll never have to go through what I did and what millions of other innocent children go through everyday as the system FAILS most children!
I hope you both are in a good place now. Good luck to both of you in the future.
@@Ams_5590 I'm so glad you were able to firstly survive and secondly become a good mother. Love and continued strength to you.
I'm so angry that happened to you. I wish you all the best in life.
Hearing that Trent got beaten up in prison, fills my heart with joy😇
Shame he survived.
Yessssssss
And it annoys me that hypocritical murderers think they are better than sex offenders.
Thank you again Mike for honoring this young girl and for the story behind her murder. I love watching you Mike. 🥰
well, Mike, you have covered a lot of disturbing stories
yet this one is, most likely, one of the most disturbing
you did a good job once again
He got the shite kicked out of him in prison.
Best part of this horrifying story. RIP BABY GIRL RIP.
@@xmikeox Mike says it in his video towards the end.
good. just like gabriel fernandez’s “mother”
@@bia-py2ry she was beaten? so glad to know!
Good. This is like Robert Hughes needing to wear jackets in summer due to the other inmates hurling urine and faeces at him.
@@ausgamecollector eweeee but bhhhaaaaa lol
She was failed by everyone who should’ve been protecting her. RIP beautiful girl. So sad.
The worst part (for Cindy) was that she did the right thing. She gave up her daughter that she loves to protect her.
Why would they place a 12 year old girl in a house with teenage boys?
Poor kid 😞
She never got a fair chance at life
But she’s in Heaven now 😇 where she will feel loved 🥰
so very sad, and heartbreaking,, poor Tiahleigh,, what's really sad is that she probably trusted her foster parents, and they did this to her,, very sick foster family. :'(
The mother should also be in prison, she knew what was going on
Agreed
Yea, she did
100% she did….
lets get her
She got 18 months. A joke.
This story is so heart-rending because Tia basically fled a crappy birth family only to end up in the clutches of the foster perverts. Everyone in the foster family failed to help this poor girl. The really despicable part is that they could've stopped it when the family had their first "discussion" about what to do about it. ANYONE of them could've been brave enough to stand up to the Dad and not go along with the ruse but none of them did sadly enough. I remember a famous quote that says:" All evil needs to succeed is for good people to do nothing".
I’m not sure if this video mentions this bc I haven’t watched yet but tias Mum put her into foster care because she was in a very bad domestic violence situation, she made the right choice
Then again.. if 'bad people' don't do anything.. what matters it what the 'good people' do?!
@@maddygreenb What a stupid thing to say. Obviously it wasn't the right choice to give her away or she would still be alive. The right choice for her mother would have been for her to get her sh*t together so she could raise Tia herself.
@@fruff30 Speaking as someone who was adopted, I vehemently disagree with you. We don't know if she would still be alive if she was still with her birth mother. While I agree that it's best for birth families to stay together when it is possible to do so, it seems to me that the most loving choice her birth mother felt she could make was to give her up. This is not a decision any parent makes lightly, especially when Tia was 7 years old when that decision was made. That tells me that she already tried to get her sh*t together as you so eloquently put it, but she was unable to. So she lovingly made the choice for her daughter to have what she thought would be a better and safer life. It is *not* her birth mother's fault that didn't happen. Let's hold the right people accountable here.
@@MelieneGardner she is partially responsible. The only way we can know our children will be kept safe is by not handing them over to strangers.
Social Services must be staffed with idiots, placing a 12 year old girl in a house with three grown men non- blood related. Regardless of which of the two initiated the sexual activity, it's not surprising it happened, and the more I think about it and knowing what a train wreck the foster care system is, it almost seems as if the social services agencies make these kinds of ABSOLUTELY STUPID placement decisions ON PURPOSE.
Another great video Mike. I have to say that I far more prefer to watch your stories that say any crime stories on TV. Better than ID Investigation Discovery any day. And I'm 100% sure that I'm not the only person that feels that.
I'm glad that the inmates gave the son a nice warm welcome :)
What did they do??
@@inkeri2741 🤦♀️
@@inkeri2741 Kicked the living shit out of him.
Yeah but just 4 years for raping and ruining a girls life which also lead to her death is pretty terrible.
@@neobogard He should have got a life sentence. 4 years is pathetic for such serious child sexual abuse. Neither him nor his father should ever have the privilege or freedom to rejoin society.
Wow! Trent messaging a friend that Tiahleigh forced him to have sex with her otherwise she'd "kill his dog Lewis" is the absolute cherry ontop of disgusting. Even the most gullible person in the world wouldn't believe that 🤦🤢🤮
Sadly, it is plausible. I had a friend who had been abused, and her way of acting out was to get sex. I was asked to talk to her about her putting the moves on. Maybe it was a way of taking control.
@Jim Marbaz Maybe you should look up the word "plausible." If you weren't there, you can't know what happened.
@@scallopohare9431 Are you seriously that naïve? I doubt it....
@@scallopohare9431 she’s 12 and he is a 19 year old man !!!!! Don’t be ridiculous
@@scallopohare9431 Was your friend 12 ????
Of the (to date) 65 other videos of you I've gotten through to date... This one is that special kind of disgusting. It's sad to see that to at least some extent the abuse caused the rest to become complicit, a classic case of Stockholm syndrome. Kudos to the first responders and medical staff that brought him back from a quick escape so that he could properly suffer the consequences.
Tia's story really broke me. She is always smiling in her pictures, but behind that smile is a world of pain. Being shifted from home to home only to be handed over to a house full of devils... This little girl was never able to feel safe and secure throughout her short life. There are so many people who would have taken this beautiful little girl into their home and given her the life she deserved. The system failed her. It threw her to a bunch of monsters who wanted her for all the wrong reasons. R.I.P Tia.
Imagine being assaulted like this, and already you don’t have many people to go to, but when you go to the woman who is acting as your mother, she turns her back on you and either doesn’t believe you, blames you, or is more concerned for the perpetrator. Why did this woman want to foster kids? Did the son show any signs of being an abuser? Makes you wonder if dad ever abused the boys or condoned abuse. Shameful.
Money. They were doing foster care for the money.
Unfortunately a lot of foster kids in Australia are used for government money, some set their houses up so they have up to 4 foster kids at a time to get more money. I knew a home daycare that fostered kids and then put them in daycare and got double money for them. They took care of the kids but it was always about money for their kids and lifestyle. They also wanted kids with high functioning autism, adhd or other issues so they got extra money on top. The system sucks
@@jfraserfisher whooh! That’s hectic, I didn’t know the foster/daycare double dip was going on? I’ll be going down the rabbit hole on that one. And the Autism/ADHA/High Needs extra money deal? How much do these foster parents get? I’m Australian, lived not far from where this happened, it still makes me sick. How much more of this is going on around the world? But yeah I’m shocked about the “foster parent business model”, that’s an eye opener. I know is hard raising children, I’m a single dad with 3 amazing children, watching this is gut wrenching, I know it’s hard too raise children, I understand that not all foster parents are doing this. Sometimes it’s reversed, we have been through some adversity over the years, I’ve had cancer twice, car accident, brain injury, in a wheel chair for a year. In those times, my poor kids were pretty much looking after me. I am lucky too have them. (I seem too remember reading somewhere that Taliah was pretty much helping too raise her siblings? When her mum and BF went off partying for days? Not sure if this was true or if it was the media going after her biological mother) but When I see or read about this stuff, it is a real jolt to the system. Hopefully what happened too poor Tahlia has made the QLD GOVERNMENT and the National government have had an inquiry into the foster system? Anyway @Jo Fisher thank you for opening our eyes too this scam. I suppose I need to watch more A Current Affair and be more informed? It must be a fair amount of money if foster parents are taking in 4 high need children at a time?
Cheers Haydox
@@jfraserfisher WTF! Damn.......
It happens in so many homes of origin, foster and care homes smh