WoW Is Unplayable
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- Опубликовано: 4 дек 2023
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Someone should call up Microsoft and see if they can lend blizzard some servers and people to maintain them
yeah you are spot on - they are so poor - someone should start a go fund me.....
it's not the servers the game is poorly built from the start , is Spaghetti code not bad servers
@@Saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa_ Nearly 20 years of patching the code will do that, maybe we'll get lucky and Microsoft will clean it up (I doubt this)
It's not even a server problem, see RF Online PvP during Chipwar and see the difference. That game was way back in 2006 btw.
90% of the players all follow a few streamers to a single server and then ppl complain the servers are bad -_-
There are private servers who have been able to handle fights with hundreds of people on each side. Blizzard has no excuse.
clearly, they should turn wow PvP into Advance Wars
What server??
most have been taken down cause they make blizz look bad
@@patrickcarter1820
This is trivialising the problem. The scale that blizzard deals with is incomparable to private servers
You have to remember blizzard is a billion dollar indie company
Man... Imagine if the game was actually playable, these battles would be awesome...
Imagine if it was controlled like say Wintergrasp was in WotLK. The idea of having it be totally open world pvp was doomed to fail in execution
Something is lost without collision imo. Not to say it wouldn’t be cool, but feels weird without space being occupied. Idk it’s just something that feels particularly dated
Tbh i think these battle are totally do-able, but you don't realize the amount of traffic asmon creates on the server doing this. If this was independently setup it would have 50x less people, but still visually look the same probably.
@@HeyImBoschea this is to you but also every other comment in this thread, look up archeage blob world pvp and see how smooth it is and how this should be. 100s people having battles pushing zones back and forth, it was great fun.
It worked on nostalrius and other private servers just fine with the same amount of ppl. Blizz is just dogshit. They can afford much more but instead they just make the game unplayable. Why even waste our time with this. It's not even epic or whatever in my eyes.
Imagine if WoW was free to play. The amount of people would be really insane
it would be exactly the same.
@@monalisa-bs4zsthere would be way more players...
There would be more bots you mean @@YehNahYehAyy
@@YehNahYehAyy Yes and no... More players playing the game overall ? Absolutely... More players in any zone ? No Blizzard can`t afford proper servers as they are a small indie company --> more phasing... The game will feel exactly the same as before when it comes to seeing and interacting with others. Empty.
@@monalisa-bs4zs i would try it if it was F2P (or even just cheaper). not gonna pay 120$ for a 20 year old game
This is why you dont roll on streamer server
Yeah, multiplayer networking scaling problem. If you have 2 people on screen, each one needs information on 1 other person, which is a total of 2 'updates' the server needs to send out. If you have 3 people on screen, they each need data on 2 other people, which is 6 total updates to send, 2 per each of the 3 people.
updates = n * (n - 1)
So if you have 20 people on screen, you need 20 * (20 - 1) = 380 updates, just to handle making sure all clients are seeing everyone move and use abilities.
In the case of battle for Ashenvale, wouldn't be surprised if each side has a couple raids going right now, which would be 80 on each side, so a total of 160 players all told in one spot. This is 160 * (160 - 1) = 25,440 updates.
And those updates need to be sent out at a rate equal to your ping, so every like, 30 milliseconds, send out 25,440 updates. Yeah it can't keep up with that.
Very few servers in the world could just 'handle' that mess, so just saying 'upgrade the servers', yeah that wouldn't help. You can't solve n * (n - 1) with 'bigger server'. You have to try to solve the n * (n - 1) problem itself, and it is very difficult to do. One of the ways they usually do so is just cap how many people can play at once (aka, make a battle ground).
The thing I find most surprising is that the WoW dev team thought that open world pvp that lets as many people in as wants to show up wouldn't just implode like this.
Wowee, an actual decent comment instead the usual spergs
This comment should be pinned at the top
World pvp works fine
This is a crusader strike exclusive issue because asmons fans tail him constantly in game
You say that but somehow Return of Reckoning, a private server of a shitty dated Warhammer MMO with comparable graphics to WoW can have 800 people on screen doing shit and have barely any lag (and the lag isn't server lag)
@@invictus7736 800?
This was over 2 thousand
Last night I finally came across the quest mobs I’ve been trying to kill for about 2 days. I was the only one there. I moved in and stood next to the mobs as I set up my totems. Then I was immediately phased into an area with more players where the quest mobs were already dead and being farmed. Thanks Blizzard.
Enjoy crusader strike :)… it’s wonderful on chaos bolt
@@joshh390 Yeah I'm actually glad they have a streamer server.. so I know where to not to make a character.
@@joshh390ye boy, I couldn't imagine being on crusader. Today I farmed 3 pearls in chaos bolt and it was crowded enough and don't even want to know how many people are farming murlocs ikr cs lol.
yep yep same here tho not 2 days but after that i gave up on sod f that.
@@joshh390I agree I do enjoy crusader strike my guild has bfd on farm with three raid groups, and world pvp is awesome. Thanks for the ego boost!!!
Would be cool is Bobby sacrificed a single Yacht for servers that can handle the player count in an area.
Woah now.... don't be ridiculous.... he only has 5 or so, so you really expect him to be a loser with only 4?? Bobby the dollar gremlin?? Never. Actually we're lucky we got this good of servers. I mean all the white suits and James cordens won't pay themselves so....?
it's the netcode, not the servers
@@Dekatelon Doesn't matter, the resources exist in 2020+, they won't pay for them and this being a monthly subscription game too. I'm not listening to any excuses for why this small indie company can't do it. Players do have to load in every other players inventory, so I can't be too hard on them I guess...
I hate to be that guy: but it's not even Bobby's fault, nor Blizzard for that matter.
isnt this just because everyone is purposefully layering over to asmonds layer?
To fix this, Blizzard needs to disable the API call that returns what EVERY player is doing within 41 yards of you. Imagine having 300 players all calling that every time they cast a single spell times 300 players times how many spells those 300 players are casting as well and boom the server cannot handle it. Sorry, DPS meters will have to go. Either that or Blizzard needs to make that API call much more efficient to not return so much data. There is no need to tell each client what someone else is doing if it has no affect on them. Disable DPS meters outside of instances is the easiest fix.
To add even more problems, each single step the API tells every player within 41 yards the movement of each player and renders that animation on top of any ability those players use. It is a lot of data. This is fixable, but it requires a lot of simplifying code and making hiding things from other players who don't need to have that information. It's why the whole zone lags because the server cannot handle the massive amount of data going back and forth at the same time.
@@Khaltazarits not the server but the client how it process all the data if it was the server the whole server will lag and d/c the problem is the client how it recieve the data and takes a shit ton to process and lags the shit out, some private servers modified the client to optimize and process the data, but blizz is too lazy or maybe afraid to update it
@@Krelian89 lol it is server problem, same as 50 vs 50 in tf2
you need optimization and power to handle it
@@Krelian89 - Right, that is what I mean, the server is sending the client too much data from the API calls that tell the client where everyone is and what abilities they are casting and parsing it all. They could tone those API calls down, but it would be a good amount of work to do right and not speed patch it.
it was lagging the whole server
@@Krelian89
Probably lagging so bad because everyone has to load everyone elses bag and inventory...
Load bag and inventory ??
You just know those lines of code are buried somewhere in all that 🍝
@@Redstripe921 it is a reference to D4, they coded the game where everyone had to load EVERYONE ELSES bags and inventory for some stupid fucking reason which causes all kinds of issues
@@kwerby3285 100% there is some shit code in there like that. There is zero reason the game should lag like this
That's not why, the game just isn't designed to have 1k+ people in a small area, probably closer to 1500+ people.
Blizz cant handle more than 100 players in the area, meanwhile private servers can handle more than 1k
The highest event in one area was 200 players on a pserver
Asmons attemp here was over 400 + other layers
@@V2ULTRAKillbullshit, nostalrius alone had multiple events way over 200 people for years.
@@JimmyRond show proof
@@JimmyRond no they didn't??? it was like 2 raids of 40 sometimes 3 at most, this is more like 10-15 raids. See the difference? No ptr could handle this load. I would argue for a ptr to maintain servers let alone host 1-2k people battles in 1 area, they would for sure need to sell lots of gold or items to pay for it.
@@peterkent6250 Your just wrong. Go blow blizzard harder, Bobby needs a new car.
Imagine this would happen in a 19 years long optimized game ^^
ya i totally remember the open world battleground in ashenvale with lvl 25 mounts in the og game.
@AszkalonWOAH NO WAY
blizzard moment
bro this days prv servers are much better then blizz ! :))) can't wait for vanilla +++ Duskhaven serv !
@Aszkalonand AoC PvP will be just as laggy as New World PvP lmao
I remember back in original vanilla on Akama like 4-5 horde raiding guilds got together, it was maybe 8-9 full raids of people, and we all attacked Iron Forge one night. We almost had the king down when the server finally died. It was a slide show getting there and eventually the GMs restarted the server and teleported a bunch of us away from Ironforge. This, of course, ruined one of the top guilds' Naxx progression raids and so they weren't very happy with us. All of our raiding times were posted and public so the next time we got together to raid the alliance had locked down the raid entrances and we had to battle to get in. Good times.
I love all the alliance players on the server being assmonglers because the ratio of good assmonglers to terrible assmonglers is like 1 for every 500 so its so easy as a horde player to farm them for honor.
Last night 3 friends of mine were ganking some ally from asmon guild, they are terrible bad for pvp
@@Krelian893v1??
@@caseytaylor5772 they were in a grp of 5 to 10
@@Krelian89 lol well then I’d say it was deserved.
Well if they were good a PvP they wouldn’t be following asmonbald.
How can private servers achieve big PvP battles while a multi billion dollar company cannot?
Guaranteed there is absolutely 0 private servers that run as many people that are on season of discovery right now
@@TheSinsOfAvarice97 I played in one; it was in Wintergrasp. Like 5K players, if you stayed more than a millisecond in caster range, you were dead. There was some lag, sure, but it was very playable.
@@tavo123micro5k is less then sod not defending blixzard tho cuz they rich and can afford not ass servers.
How come that in the 20 years this game has been out they can't manage to make large scale battles work?
Its more how the client handle the data more than the servers, idk why blizz hasn't updated that shitty 128kbs on old client
The old client could run this no problem, it's all the updates to it@@Krelian89
This reminds of of the massive battles in GW2 WvW play. It can be quite confusing. Especially if you're running around trying to wack someone instead of using ranged weapons.
I've played GW2 for a couple years now, never seen this amount of lag in a WvW, frame drops maybe, but the second you lower your settings it goes away. This is the fault of a terrible host server setup
except in GW2 it doesn't freeze everyone in place and you can actually play (even if it's a slideshow on your end)
That's funny, as a old guy this reminds me of Ashran in WOD, which was so bad it was called Trashran in the community, I can't believe some nob in Blizzard thought recycling this was a good idea! 😂
At least gw2 is playable
Yea except it can handle huge zergs of players clashing with dozens of different siege weapons
World PVP: You think you do, but you don't.
Why just cause blizz cant be bothered to fix their game? Lol
We do. Bobby just needs to sell of Yacht and make it work.
PvP stands for Profit vs Players when it comes to WoW.
South shore vs TM gone be lit again 4 u retail andy scrubs who missed it wpvp was op fun af 4 both sides no lagg on classic🎅
It was gonna be fun if the servers worked, you are right.
I reminded back of when the Horde attacked IF back in Classic... Course in that case there was zero movement and abilities that would work due to the lag.
Brings back memories. Vanilla World PVP was awesome experience.
Yes and no, it was nowhere close to what we're experiencing right now. It;s just too much. Before it was an issue with processing power due to PCs not being the best back in the day, now its just such a massive amount of people the server is what cant handle it now.
@@Jaybe8891 It was exactly the same when Classic WoW was released with world PvP, that had nothing to do with processing power of the people's PCs, servers couldn't handle it just like now
yeah this is exactly how I remember south shore and Taren mill.
World pvp (without lag) in any expansion awesome experience
TM SS 2.0 lol
Im glad to see everybody enjoying the beta 😂
I didn’t join the raid because I figure it would be unplayable. I was right but I still regret not going
Yeah its still a cool experience, just like this stream was cool eventho it was lagging like hell !
That is why nobody will remember you 😢
I was there, I basically stood in the back as a rogue, before Asmon and Esfand even got there the lag was about 2-3 seconds. After it was about 10-15 seconds per cast.
Reminds me of Warhammer: Online's RvR. It was almost identical, you've had players just randomly load in on top of you and be dead when the zerg hit because it couldnt populate everyone at once. It was insanity.
Im really surprised that the goal for this first level tier was to funnel everyone into one zone. I thought they learned from TBC and Hellfire to not do that again.
It seemed like a fun idea.
The Asmongold experience by Nixxiom never been so real lol
The new PoE Minion build looks tight
Imagine creating/running an online game for 20 years and still not knowing WTF you're doing. Even with all that subscription money, they'll spend a little as possible and the fact that it's that laggy and unplayable is inexcusable. Absolute incompetence.
Wintergrasp at release had the same identical issue.
Nice to see Blizzard never learns from their mistakes.
I sure loved playing this with my kids when it first came out. Wild and fun vid.
Imagine how epic this would be if it *actually* worked… lol
i had no problem like that even with 5 alliance and 5 horde raids in the zone but when a streamer makes a 2000man raid i can see this happening.
Reminds me of Year 1 Tauren Mill. Mass PvP back and forth. I don't remember it breaking like this, though. That resembles an old Dark Ages of Camelot raid.
imagine one single giant server that didn't lag
Eve online?
It would be unplayable with the same amount of players, but for another reason
@estebanslavidastic4382 eve online has no where near the players
I like how classic has connected realms but SoD doesn’t *sarcasm 😒
So true man, Blizzard should be embarrassed, if you're going to have a MMO it should be able to handle large online battles. This is pathetic.
they try beta with you guys, they troll you
I mean this almost seems better than what I saw on Lava Lash which was 1 horde in Ashenvale.
IS that a MASSIVE Multiplayer Online Game??? More like Small Offline Game
This isnt the experience on my server
This would be cool if it wasn't so one side and if you could attack
Horde still ended up winning
@@Chaosmos_1349how
@@Chaosmos_1349 "winning" alliance ignored the bosses and went for the peons thats why. It's a win of the ashen event but they lost their fucking town in ashen XDDD
They just need to add Time dilation fights would take longer but they'd actually work
So many Divine Storms. Are Ret Pallys popular in season of Discovery since they can do more than auto attack?
Imagine if it worked as smooth as WvW in GW2. Too bad WoW's spaghetti code cannot handle more than 50 people in 1 place using skills.
I had just stopped playing GW2 for this and it's embarrassing how bad this is.
Huge zergs raiding bases with dozens of siege weapons and the game functions just fine.
This is not even a slideshow
I do cut the SoD dev team some slack as there are only a handful of them. I hope they get this fixed soon as it could be incredibly fun.
understaffed and overrun, they do deserve credit, let's hope they can keep up with it!
Lineage 2 came out 1 year before wow. Its a sandbox mmo with a fully open world. No instances or layering with loading screens anywhere (this was the state of the game 15-20 years ago, not sure todays versions tho). Everyone at the server is logged into the same world. This combined with mass scale pvp or raiding is what made it a great game.
I know Steven from Ashes of creation is/was a big L2 fan so I hope they manage to pull it off
L2 is mmo with mass pvp. It is still the best in this
imagine the biggest mmo where the MMO part doesnt work that be insane if that battle didnt had any server issues
I dunno what you'd expect when you bring over 1000 players to one place. I don't know any game that's been able to do that with the kind of combat WoW has.
Exactly, idk why people are shocked and coming at blizzard for this
Lineage 2.
The lagfest with large scale pvp in WoW is one reason i never stayed playing the game very long. Planetside 2 doesn't have these lag issues. Which is why Ashes of Creation is using some of the same tech on the backend. Also DAOC was way better than this in 2001.
You're right, but I don't like the Planetside 2 comparison. It's not a MMO that has to worry about/handle a bunch of other stuff outside of large scale PvP. It's built specifically for large scale PvP and that alone.
@@COA5T what? the servers need to handle every bullet in the entire map, every rocket, everything . Every bullet in the air need to be tracked because it exist every moment until hit something.
@@XBPReginleif Yes, I know that. Like I said, the entire game is designed to handle large scale PvP, and that's it. It does not also need to know how to handle raids, dungeons, player hub areas, a billion types of gear, weapons, mounts, and other MMO-based character data. In PSO2 you spawn into one large instance the entirety of the game is specifically built around. It only does one thing. That's it.
those are so many stash inventories to load
Got layered twice last night mid fight into a layer that didn’t have an event active… felt awesome
Even with hundreds of players on the screen and tons of spells going off, you still have better visibility of your character than the average 5-man dungeon in retail. 😌
What an unnecessary dig. I play both and retail has lots to offer. For example, my abilities work in retail. That should count for something in a game about pressing abilities, right?
@@r_e046they wont if there are 100s of ppl around tho
Trash argument
??
Retail sucks why would I want to re grind all my gear for a new season ?
I just wish that Blizzard could somehow figure out how to operate large populations to make these massive PvP events actually fun. Although, knowing blizzard and the fact that the code for this game is at least 20 years old, I imagine there is just some huge data leak that makes netplay really hard to streamline without there being some massive overhaul of the whole backend.
Yeah. I heard they had to lay off a lot of people because they've only made $12 billion in subscription revenue.
only@@ShaneLochlannBlack
Nothing with much more than 10v10 actual *ACTIVE* combatants is even fun. Even Altetac Valley, the real fun was in smaller skirmishes around the map rather than the literal 40v40 Zerg where the first idiot to step too far forward instantly dies.
They should put some kind of debuff (player number can be tuned, but for example’s sake we’ll start with 10 same faction players). For every additional [same faction] player above 10 within 50 yards of you, your stats are reduced by a percentage. Encourage world PvP events like Ashenvale to be a zone wide battle for however many players (100? 200?) but which results in smaller strike teams skirmishing all over the zone rather than a giant 200 player lagfest clusterfuck.
The server choking makes this large scale fight progress at a rate similar to a child moving around plastic Army Men and narrating the battle.
2:30 How is it 2023 and a game from 2004 is making servers lag with a couple hundred people in one spot? This is how MMORPG's SHOULD be... we've gone too long with dead servers in games and layering to make you feel alone. Get better servers and get rid of layers. Bring back the MMO experience. Besides the lag, this is absolutely awesome and looks like so much fun!
Couple thousand*
Aside from the lag, they need to make the guards level 25 instead of 40. It makes no sense to have skull level guards running around when it's supposed to be a zone for level 25 pvp.
The last time I saw something this bad was during the great Blackrock War on Benediction when the Allies broke the tide of the horde seeking to enter Nefarian's lair. Or when we broke the horde again when chaos broke out when the gates of AQ opened.
Reminds me of the old Southshore fights between Ally/Horde.
@Asmongold TV I've heard that its so laggy because it has to load each persons inventory to include their bank tabs.
It's the new faction balance feature! The more players a team has, the more lag to compensate.
Man they need to stop outsourcing during launches and peaks and just bring it all back in house, and deal with the ISPs directly. It's gotten worse not better and it's so very important that you can have large scale battles.....
Dude this is what I imagined raids on capital cities looked like. When I was a child talking about this in elementary school during the early days before Burning Crusade; We'd talk about stuff like this and this is what I imagined it to be.
I can't imagine WoW ever expected a 500 v 500. That was wild.
Reminds me of the massive fights we'd have in Azshara when Azuregos would spawn back in the vanilla days. Though it was actually playable back then, and those were some of the most fun times I ever had playing WoW. I'm pretty sure this unplayable garbage is a result of diversifying their dev team until there was no trace of competence left.
Oh it kicked off over Azurgos. Plenty of guilds rolling up for their run
Imagine not making your character on the faction balanced server and being surprised that factions are imbalanced.
well, 80% of those people are attention seekers. Asmongold milking content out of it is the issue here.
Simple facts people are their own demise
...who cares about faction imbalance when the servers make mass pvp unplayable anyways?
@@powerbeard5653 I don't think the servers were planned for Streamers bringing hundreds of players at the same time to one spot. It can probably hold itself quite well when there are not spergs that follow Streamers around.
I'm surprised they haven't made dedicated servers for streamers by now
If they knew the limitation in Winterspring, why didn't they do the same for this battle? Limit the total number of players in the zone and have a queue for replacements if needed.
Then people would cry because there is a queue
@fluxx7217 so true. But after a month, it will calm and less time in queue (if any).
Do you know if it like wintergrasp where winning opens a raid for the faction, or it more just a quest thing like Ashran? Wonder how long before it is a waste of time, like the old eastern plaguelands tower pvp zone.
Six pounds of **** in a five pound bag. Blizzard's world-class game design, everybody. Let's give them a big round of applause.
Planetside 2 is a game that can handle a lot of players in one spot (300+) and be fully playable with everything rendered. Game is from 2012.
This is way more than 300
True
I don't really think 300+ can really be compared to 3000+
@@Jack_Rakan 300+ is a playable number in planetside 2. 3000+ doesnt count for much when its unplayable bud XD
@@sunsetcreative6541thats the point
Planetside 2 wouldn't handle this number either
even though the combat is broken, its still impressive to see THAT many people in a world zone . This when blizzard figure out how to get it to be playable and not a lagfest would be fkin epic compared to any wpvp you've seen before on scale!
I really hope they get this to work, its a shame that the servers clearly can't handle that storm of players but imagine if it could :P
Horde and Alliance both showed up ready to fight. Little did we know, we had a common enemy who flanked us all... Blizzard
i mean, when you're a streamer and the entire server is on your team, kinda hard to lose.
But they lost... 🤣
I really don't get what is enjoyable about ganking the other faction in such a way. At least they lagged out of their minds.
Streamers are on horde side as well.
20 years ago this shit worked better on dial-up
Me and my buddy almost died on Hardcore servers, due to lagg, most likely because of this and SoD server instability.
Still, a crazy event to see :)
Imagine flying over that with a potato connection, and disconnecting lol.
The best thing is that you were able to have large scale battles on private servers without any kind of slow down.
I love the fact he is surprised they are winning when they have 500 people on the team 😂
It originally was like 100v100 then turned into 500v500 then turned into like 1300v1000
but he was losing , lol
dark age of camelot was able to pull off battles like this back in 2001. how can blizz still not do this in almost 2024
the game might handle like a regular 100v100 sized battle with npcs but there must be thousand players in the same zone from that raid
But like... obviously when your entire stream is filling out the server. for example, on my server i dosent lag, cause there arent an entire livestream at the same place, at the same time
I think its worth mentioning they didn't do any PTR or testing to help keep the runes secret, and they will hopefully be able to balance the servers out in the future. (its blizzard tho so realize I am huffing a fair bit of copium as I write this.)
Blizzard already said they have no intention of balancing anything except extreme instances
@@Shaky80 personally I was referring to server balance for players not skill balancing, also curious where’d you hear that from? Got a link or anything I can check out?
there is no place for "class balance" in WoW. This is WoW not league of legends or whatever. Get the right Items, make sure you have the right professions, and learn how to play. Youre g2g then. And stop crying for everything what you cant handle to make it less difficult just for you.. Back in the times blizzard laught at ppl who couldnt handle the game like; "Is it too hard for your brain ?😂" There was also an Handbook when you bought the CD, there you could learn all things.
@@ef2038 again as I said to the guy above I was referring to server balance in order to allow more players during events and less lag and latency issues. I understand how to play the game lol.
@@ef2038 u ok?
EVE Online had time dilation to combat large space fights which also lagged like here. i have to wonder if blizz ever considered doing something similar
That’s actually a great idea.
So no, Blizz never thought of that.
To be fair we did have like 10 alliance raids on the same layer 😂
it honestly blows my mind how much money blizzard has and this is still a problem
Why waste time fixing something like this? They literally have so many people playing that it's breaking the server. All of them already bought the game and paying the monthly fee lol. No need to make it better. No point. Better to focus on a new shop item or something
No amount of money can make that kind of battle smooth and playable. EvE online fixes it by literally putting the server node in slow motion called TiDi. The money is there but the technology is not for what you want or expect.
You do realize a 20 year old game wasn't designed to have 1000v1000 pvp battles right?....
This is what happens when you outnumber the Horde 6 to 1.
All part of the classic experience. Making it feel like 2005 :)
Shouldn't blizzard be able to handle this many people by now? is it really that hard to scale the Virtual machine to a few racks in the data center?
its netcode, which increases exponentially when you add additional clients. 100 pcs needing info on every 100 players is 100*100 requests. 1000 would be 1000*1000. Big difference scaling with netcode
Then they should integrate rollback netcode@@the__man
You play classic, you get a classic experience. Welcome to old school lag fest.........
Same lag in retail during mass world pvp.. Nice try tho 😂
@@jbryan8864there is no mass world pvp in retail. Nice try tho lol
Reminds me of the old days, the OG world pvp Zerg spot was always Hillsbrad. Was amazing.
Did the battle last night. No issues. had a max of maybe 2 horde raids in the zone, 1 alliance raid tops. Mind you there were no streamers aside from Soni present. Sadly blizzard servers cant handle 100v100+
Anyone who has fought in a real skirmish before knows that this is alot closer to reality than people think, lmao.
You can always play watered-down version of WoW, which is Guild Wars 2 (not really watered-down though ;) it holds it's own )
I don't understand why people are blaming Blizzard for not putting more money into servers to fix this.
Don't you all get that Bobby needed a few more yachts instead???
im thinking this might be a crusader server issue only, never see that amount of lag there ever on my server, unless it was something that happened like on day 2 or 3 since i had to work right as sod launched and missed witnessing this issue.
some badly content less gooo
BALD CONTENT!
It s the same at the start of any Wintergrasp in wrath classic. Their servers can not handle more players in the same place.
How can Battle Bit run 254 flowlessly? That s what I don't understand. Could it because all the different stats an multipliers?
Just delete flying mounts, and you have proper world PVP.
This video needs to go viral and just remind blizzard that this is unacceptable. Great job editors lol
I don't think there's much they can do it about it, objectively. They're playing on an old as shit game. Even modern MMOs with up to date practices would hitch a bit with this many players - Blizz needs to overhaul their entire netcode to deal with this, which they wont because it's probably a gordian knot.
Unacceptable? Bro this is peak vanilla content. Yeah we could have a seamless war with tons of people but then it wouldn’t be funny or have good content
@@Leronnic 😂😂🤣
Server flooded by a streamers community. They cant do shit about this.
@@mr.gamingz ???? They have a problem without streamers, can't do shit in AV when we meet in the middle
On lone wolf we had massive 100v100 clashes and it was epic, virtually 0 lag
Can’t imagine doing this, just seems unfun
Reminds me of queueing up for Ashran ever week back in WoD
Imagine having a Starforge PC and still not able to pay a 20 yr old game.
Are you saying the problem resides in his computers performance?
he's probably being sarcastic but who the fuck knows nowadays