As an update, Firestar did gain a lot of viewers and success from it. And some people finally understood the context, so he didn't lose anything in the end, debuff is almost finished too.
@@valegrumby Also funny how little boys get angry when the villain they fabricated in their mind gets something out of the injustice in the end. Can't think for yourselves, can you?
@@jaden344 He didn't cheat he cleverly used game mechanics to put a loser in their place. The prep just to try and kill a streamer only to be embarrassed like this is hilarious.
Imagine logging onto your guild to prepare for your first hardcore raid, only to find out that your guildmaster spent all his 87 raid buffs on a 1 v 1 duel, with support from another player, and lost.
@@Whillyy the resistance pot doesnt absorb any damage. He is using the lvl 28 frost resistance potion, and probably has used it many times to roll max amount absorption (2250) to prepare. This potion is also commonly used in naxx during trash and progress runs, also when you got the content on farm to save money. Imagine trying to lecture people about pots not knowing shit. The definition of the players asmon talks about playing classic right here.
Now that I think about it, all the gold he used on those consumables and trinkets was probably from guildee dues. I bet he told them he was saving the dues for raid consumables and repairs.
To be fair, mage in wow is one of the two most OP classes with unique abilities and ways of playing that are like 20-50% stronger than any other class. That, along with rogue.
@@a-my9ql Every class and spec counters something. He choose the worst class against mage and the worst place for a duel in a open field. Especially since both are not max level yet. Mage is just one of the best classes early game against melee classes.
@@begetti why would u want to immortalize a loser? For "permanent shame"? Thats dumb Ur the one with the bad opinion lmao. Ur basically no better than the French guy trying to kill ziqo with raid buffs. I'd rather immortalize the winners.
Dunno, the amount of time Ziqo spent saying the same shit over and over instead of just showing the duel is painful. We get it - he went all out with buffs, we understand english...
Ya frost mage gets mad cuz he doesn't insta win like the class should, and has to resort to cheese to live instead of dying like a man. Frost requires no skill. None. A ferret off the street could play it, and play it well. Stop praising people who play op classes to duel with and actually do what the game design allows. If anyone ever lost to any melee as a frost mage it just means ur trash. Big trash. Also I loved watching his 2 chars die in the arena. Actually realistic gameplay for once.
Yall need to chill, it wasn’t that crazy what Ziqo did. I was expecting ziqo to actually win, *that* would’ve been crazy. It was his fault for accepting a duel against a guy with 40 buffs to begin with.
A Frenchman, vain and full of pride, Challenged a foe to mortal tide. With twenty buffs to aid his might, He sought to prove his martial right. But when the foe advanced with grace, The Frenchman's courage left his face. His buffs, a useless, empty show, As fear within his heart did grow. He turned and fled, a coward's flight, His honor lost, a shameful plight. The jeers and taunts, a bitter sting, A haunting mark, a shameful thing. But worse than shame, a debuff's blight, Three days of weakness, a mournful plight. His strength diminished, his spirit low, A living testament to his foe. Forever branded as a knave, His name a byword, a living grave. The duel's end, a tragic scene, A Frenchman's cowardice, a shameful stain.
It's like that episode of Samurai Jack where a team of bounty hunters go through an entire montage of planning and setting up the perfect trap to kill the samurai, overcoming their personal differences and egos to utilize all of their unique individual skills to maximum effectiveness, only for Jack to defeat them in the time it takes a drop of water to hit the ground.
@@CzDelta92 yeah, reminds me a bit of Dark Souls 2 where a big boss charges you like a bull and falls to his death. Video is called "Dark Souls 2 How To Cheese The Dragonrider"
LMAOO I was in tears watching your reaction to this Asmon it's like you said, this was like a movie script 🤣🤣🤣 the comments & reacts on this has been an absolute gold mine. Keep up the good work fellas.
This is definedly one of the WoW moments to be remember. The two perspectives and the build up, just make it so perfect. Hells I didn't know who Ziqo is, but the first few minutes tells the full story. From there you can sit back and hold your breath to see how it's going to end.
Ziqo didn't even break a sweat, he was so calm throughout it all. The paladin was so confident with his 500 buffs lmao his face was priceless. Best video ever lol.
Why would ziqo sweat. Frost mage is broken and my dead grandma could beat any melee class as well with frost. Seriously no skill required yall just like the taste of z's nuts I guess.
that one dude who was playing and watching ziqo's stream and whispered him to bait into coward debuff right near the start of the duel was an unsung hero tbh. gave ziqo something to grasp his focus to in such a hard moment when the reality of this raid-buffed duel hit him
The fact that he streamed it is just a cherry on top. Giving all of us a frontline view of what its like to get so epicly owned you will never be able to recover.
That's because he didn't do anything wrong, Ziqo couldn't win the duel so he had to flee the makgora by magic dusting a Paladin out of the makgora zone as a MAGE, he's a loser.
@@Carpatouille The loser has the debuff..... Its a fight to the death, both players knew the rules. WTF did the sniper do in following Ziqo out of the duel area? He opened the door & Ziqo took it. He fooked up, its his own fault. He was outplayed & should consider giving up WOW & playing tiddly winks
@@sticktothefacts8905 Blizzard SPECIFICALLY said before the HC servers were out that they wanted to avoid people getting CC'D out of a Makgora. A DUEL TO THE DEATH. Are you guys so dense you can't comprehend that? Are you guys so much of NPCs blindly following and trust what your your gourous say to the point you ignore what you SAW? Zyqo LOST. He effectively cheesed out and FLED the duel, because he ADMITTED he COULDN'T WIN. Also, Firestar was the highest rated ret paladin in Cataclysm, a known Gladiator at the time and I think he's better than all of you NPCs combined.
@@sticktothefacts8905 Also, Zyqo ASKED for the makgora. HE'S the one who fucked up. He just used an unintended cheese to avoid the debuff or dying. In a duel to the death, as a Makgora, HE lost.
Moments like this are what makes WoW such a great game. This was like watching part 1 Naruto Chunin Exams and using some 3000iq strategy to beat your opponent
@@UNSCconnor Ah, WW2... Too many american movies for you kid, you better get back to school! And even there, they will still teach you that USA saved the world...and ignore the fact that it was Russia who actually stopped Germany completely, at an insane cost (millions of deaths). America, as the RAT, came by the west when Germany was completely weaken to take the win. And I won't go into more recent events, when you see americans running like cowards out of Afghanistan after 20 years of useless occupation haha
@@Thatdudewiththedogs he's basically saying "come here ziqo, give me your ears, i'm coming for you, stop running etc, and then at the end he's like "oh bitch"
@@MellonVegan yeah I mean, think about the whole context of the video and this dudes goal, he’s most likely a sociopath for sure. Unhinged to say the least.
@@Thatdudewiththedogs check thibautm's comment pretty much sums it up. But the tone in which he was saying it was very odd. Like a damn molester or something.
A friend and I were doing 2v2 arena in Cata, I was a rogue and had the legendary daggers. I was a reasonably good player and raided with a hardcore guild. Anyway, we enter this arena and soon realise there is a druid, no partner, just sat there like he was AFK. I immediately though this will be a quick win and move on. This druid bear owned us, stunlocked me, killed my buddy in seconds and just went to town on me after. Never, underestimated another player ever again. Sub rogue with those daggers in PVP were pretty OP back then, but get cocky and OP means nothing.
@@Long-Horse sounds like ur a noob that only knew how to dps a target that didnt fight back. you were never a reasonably good player, you just a pve andy.
Holy shit, this is one of the most iconic things I’ve seen in classic! xD Little bro was so proud, planning like a fucking psychopath, even decided to stream it so everyone could witness. Even if he had won, he‘d still be clown, but the fact he got put in the dirt, in the most embarrassing kind of way, with his character now having „Coward“ written on his forehead, just makes this fucking perfect. :‘D
@@malbazz Nah even better. :D He played for the whole duration of the debuff, struggling his way through it and made like 8 levels iirc, just to die the exact same day he lost the debuff. It’s so perfect, it’s almost hard to believe. :‘D
@@malbazzyall are too far up z's ass. It's a game, and the dude did something fun for a change. Instead of just letting a frost mage frost bolt someone to death, and the mage still didn't die cuz they are a broken class on classic. Maybe it would be better to see this duel in retail where the classes are actually somewhat closer to balanced.
@@trentongardner2106 the mage didn't die because the french guy was so dumb, he left the area and lost lol. I cant stop laughing, its like watching someone drown or die to the elevator boss.
@@Alex-wd4is That would be BS if they removed it, he got played despite treating it like a raid boss. Hell, if it were me and I lost, I'd seppuku my character for such a disgrace.
@@daedelous7094 If I were Blizz I'd change the debuff for him to 6 days and also change the rules that the debuff timer only ticks down for while you're in combat. Frenchie bonus right there
@@LeorioSusano He got challenged and he accepted, Ziqo is a high skill player theres not that many people who would win as a melee vs a frost mage so no reason to really decline free content As to "why" its because he's unaware of all buffs the opponent has since you couldn't check that in classic and obviously whatever resources he had in his backpack
@@LeorioSusano Ziqo is one of the best players in the game, he also does it for content so of course will duel. Ziqo had no way of seeing those insane buff before the duel started, Paladin is probably the first person to ever do that countless hours getting the mats to make the potions get the buffs set up a situation where it was impossible to lose all on a mid level char.... that he ended up losing anyway is perhaps the greatest fail in pvp WoW history. All that prep work weeks worth and to just get outplayed out thought out IQed, I have not played wow in near 16 years the level of pathetic the paladin displayed cannot be described.
the man couldve started his streaming career if he laughed about it afterwards or something but the fact that he took it so serious is what makes it entertaining to us as the viewer
Well its entertaining up to the point you play HC and some rando invites you to a duel and hold and behold its nr1 just wiping a floor with you and if you prepare for the fight like this guy you are only ridiculed, and if you win you would have been made into a villian which is.. kinda sad.
@@noha112 but it isn't... "lo" means "look" in the context of this phrase. This is very easily checked if you look up the meaning and origin of the saying. Not sure why you wouldn't have done that before attempting to correct somebody lol
I just imagine the pain and horror he’s experiencing at this situation. First he gets the debuff which would sting. Then it goes viral that would REALLY sting. Then he boots up RUclips and asmons reacted to it
Asmon reacting is the worst thing that could happen on it all if you don't care about getting views and viewers. Lot of harassment from 2IQ fans, even in the guild. Insults, people going full racist and hate speech, it can even be viewed in the comment section. It's not as bad as in the beginning, but we still get idiots harassing from time to time in game. Thankfully Firestar and the guild actually recovered well and went even further from this situation.
@@Carpatouille Oh nooo, mean words. Words that probably won't even be said in French for him to understand. This was his own miscalculation, and people will forget after a week.
i'd just like to add here, for posterity's sake: Firestar went to SM with his guild to level there, basically to just ignore the debuff and continue on with his life. They wiped, Firestar was like level 43 then. RIP classic french villain, your character arc may have been of a side character and not the main villain you hoped for. but if Ziqo's Hardcore Adventures was a series, you were the the most memorable character.
Considering Firestar is the only one who reached 60 in HC on a PvP realm, Firemaw, I would say it's not true, though he did prepare a lot for Makgoras, as anyone who plans to do so should. It's a clownish mistake to come unprepared to a duel that seals the fate of your hard earned character in this game.
@@Carpatouille Hey you! I've noticed you frequently defending someone who's referred to as a loser, a stream sniper, and a wannabe content creator who tries to hurt others for his own entertainment. I'm curious about your motivation, and I'd appreciate it if you could share.
@@caginkansal3896 came back to this video to check if he was still commenting trying to defend this guy and apparently he is a guild mate to him and is just salty that everyone is spiting on his coward stream sniper piece of shat friend Surprised that after a week he is still coming back to try and defend him
Bro that was probably one of the most satisfying things I've ever seen Asmon. As always you're the man and fuck off 😂. Love to see you still going strong after all these years. I remember watching you years ago spazzing tf out and now look. Good shit man
Would have gone differently for the Firestarter dude if he didn't pop his bubble and trinket so aggressively. Holy crap Ziqo did amazing even though 20 of his spells were resisted and his poly was breaking so fast. Legendary, Will remember this forever.
nah this is better than that, ziqo didn't have to change the conditions of the test and basically cheat like kirk, he just outsmarted him on the spot using mechanics of the game itself
This may be a hot take, but all I see is a man who really lives the sentence: "If you take a shot at the king, don't miss." He knew his target was a Rank 1 Glad who loves killing people in Mak'gora... so he decided he's going to make him regret his life choices... and so he spent more time prepping for this than Batman would to fight Superman. He then got help to scout and bait a perfect trap and Ziqo fell into it hook, line and sinker. Insane props to Ziqo, of course, as he proved to everyone why he's #1 because he found a way to win in a borderline unwinnable situation. All in all, amazing PvP event happened - one for the ages - and it took both sides to make it happen EDIT: Just saw to the end where the dude asked his guild to mass report Ziqo. N/M, he's a little whiny bitch boy - can respect the way this all went down, but should have taken his L like a man.
Also, Blizzard answered Firestar's ticket, and confirmed it indeed is a bug, and that they planned to fix it as they overseen magic dust CC for the rule of not being able to get CC'd out of a Makgora like he was. People misinterpretation because of Asmongold's retardation in this case is probably why they didn't remove the buff, even though Blizzard pretended they couldn't remove it. But the debuff is almost over, and the guild is going stronger than ever. Personal opinion, Zyqo is the one who should have taken the L like a man as you say. Dude admitted himself he couldn't win, so in a duel to the death, he either deserved death or coward debuff, especially as a mage playing against as paladin, and challenging Makgora unprepared.
@@Carpatouille firestar is a pathetic weasel and so is anyone in his guild if they watched this incident. He cheated and 100% deserved the coward debuff.
This is pure gold, I praise the guy for the mega preparation he really "went to war" there and went all out guns blazing but even so the gap between Mage and Pala is to big to be covered even with so many buffs, he may have failed the mission but his sneakiness will live on!
@@p0ntess you need to stay out of bounds for a few seconds for it to trigger and he would go out and in of bounds before the timer ran out while putting him to sleep made him stay outside for the necessary time
@@JimmyTheAI oh he would definetly be a bastard if he randomly attacked players by surprise. But those are "Duels to the death", you know what you risk, and you can expect the player who callenged you to be good. they were free to get away, but if they accept and loose, i don't see what makes him a bad guy. they played they lost.
@@someboredguy972 iam saing you can hate on one and praise the other, one goes around trying to bait players to die.. because they werent prepared for what came.. and then he ridicules a guy that comes prepared becasue he comes prepared, pretty narcistic behaviour
Duel is not a bait at all. He challenges ppl, and if they accept, they also accept the risks of facing someone way stronger that them. And as for that guy, he's not mocked because he was overprepared, sure he spent countless ressources, got every single buff in the game, got every useful items, spec'd for Ziqo in particular, basically made sure to leave no single chance to Ziqo, and still lost, but if that was just it, he wouldn't have been mocked, ppl would've just praised Ziqo and move on. No, he's mocked because he was arrogant, wanted to snipe Ziqo, was certain he could defeat him, came fully prepared, and when he lost, he raged and tried to have Ziqo mass-reported, this is all of these combined that have him mocked.
@@someboredguy972 problem is that uts what ziqo says, no? For all i know he could have been killed before went after him and got baited and lost, the ticket was unnecessary but you know, he spent time and got marked a runner when he didnt ran. Also many times they commented on how he is focused and smirks he really didnt not that it changes anything.
@@lswallie Blind on one eye (glas eye) then on my remaining eye I had to do surgery to save eyesight, but after that I get pain in eye while playing anything that has lots of effects or movement, so basically all 3d games are off limits for me nowadays. I adapt lol it just is abit sad I can't play all the games I want anymore, but could always be worse (^_^)
@@Zycoreination Damn dude, sorry you have to go through that. I dont know if it's possible but I hope it get's better with time! I dont know you but I wish you the best broski
@@Zycoreination Wow man, this is heartbreaking. So sorry to hear that. But in my book, you're a total badass for overcoming this adversity. I have eternal respect for you my bro. Keep being a legend.
He wouldn't have cared, Ziqo CHOSE to accept the makgora KNOWING. Yet when he couldn't win, he chose the coward way to magic dust out of duel. Dude had to cheese a makgora before by leveling up during one.
@@Carpatouille look better, he didn't know about the rows of buffs, since Alliance/Horde don't see buffs of each other when they aren't hostile (aka when they are outside of combat) You can see it when Ziqo show his own POV; before the duel, he targets the Paladin, and there's no buff shown, and later during the duel, when he goes out of battle (to drink to regen his mana) the buffs also disappear
A reminder and a cautionary tale. Being the very best is never just a simple matter of having the best stats and abilities, especially not when you hold the title for so long.
@@wewuzkangz2505 you also need to be able to play the class really good to be able to pull this off. Lets not pretend that everyone would have survived this just by playing mage
@@razien9941 Indeed, but that goes for any class. It's just that mage is a crutch, it adds +20% to your base skill level on its own, you don't have to think about certain things, and you aren't punished for others.
@@wewuzkangz2505 sounds like you play a melee class. there are plenty of ways to beat mages. Druid outright counters them, warlock beats them, and hunters/shamans are skill matchups, rogue is slightly disadvantaged but can win as well, the other classes are supposed to lose to mage so they will only win if they're much better players than the mage
I remember playing as a priest and an enemy paladin was attacking Thunder Bluff. I could see all of his buffs and dispelled them. He came back, and I dispelled them again. He never saw it coming.
He has the smug look of satisfaction that I imagine every Reddit contrarian has when they think they zinged you because you didn't cover 1000% of your bases when making a point.
Not only that, but the contrarian is WRONG when making the point too but he doesn't know that and too many idiots agree with him, so he's literally drowning in smug.
Whole time I kept thinking what kind of person would go through all this trouble and put in the time… then Ziqo mentioned he’s French. At that moment it all made sense
@@dakineprotoss ok first of all if buffs would be removed, such beautyful scenes wouldnt exist and we had no base to talk. Second thats what i ment: with gigabrain and a small toolbox you can outsmart fools. But needles to say in this discussion i am the mage and you are the pala... have a great day/night
This is so good. I see many people complaining about the buffs in makgora but imo it is exactly how it should be, precisely for moments like this to exist. Everything goes.
@@pm_me_ur_gluons no it isnt lol, it's basically duel to the death with rules determined by participants, if you don't discuss it beforehand and type "I agree" you agree to using everything the game has to offer. I guess you watched the Warcraft movie? The makgora there is not a defnitive way that it's done in the universe, its a plot device.
I watched this wondering "How is this frost mage going to beat through this paladin's frost absorb potions and kill him?" The ending was surprising, but somehow even better than if he killed him.
Yeah, Ziqo rat of the year, can't win a makgora so he calls the guy a streamsnipper for equipping gear with resists for mage, so he had to flee out of the duel by magic dusting out of duel zone, when Blizzard said they didn't want it to happen. Is it in a MAKGORA spirit to do that stuff? Nope.
@@Carpatouillewhat do you call it then? The dude stalked him and cheesed the fight for the win…but, he got played back by Ziqo. At least he got to keep his toon.
@@whataday2624 I don't blame Zyqo for keeping his toon, it's the way he did it and basically unfairly made Firestar look like an asshole, it's the lies and the fact people blindly trust him. Dude tries to makgora people without gear, level up while in a duel to the death because he was about to lose, he exploits every single bug mechanic he can. Yet when others play the game normally, it's unfair because Zyqo was too dumb to challenge to a Makgora someone who was prepared for it. Also he didn't stalk, Zyqo asked for challengers so he used his stream to get to him, and Zyqo asked for it. If Blizzard didn't fuck up, Zyqo would have had the debuff or died, which he was lucky not to seeing how low his health was at times regardless. And a viewer gave him the magic dust outside of duel idea, and he was so proud of himself for that. I don't get how anyone but dishonorable scums can see zyqo as a winner here, in a duel to the death where the dude just escaped death, he did not win.
And I thought the priest that got lay on hands'd at 1 hp by a paladin to then abandon that said paladin was the most pathetic thing I was gonna see. Turns out it wasn't, and the worst/best part is that he also recorded it himself because he was so sure it was impossible for him to lose LMAO I've never felt so much cringe from an unknown person and at the same time felt happy at the outcome
I have never played WoW in my life, and even I understand the level of OWNED that this is. This is worse than losing to your little sister in tekken when all she does is pick the pretty girl and press press Square.
@slof69 I get it. Mages are powerful in gaming. I play pillars of eternity 2, so I know, but I've always liked when people take gaming seriously like this, so I wouldn't call the guy a rat, lol it's always been fun abusing people in games it's just that it failed miserably this time lol
I was wondering how the paladin was gonna lose that, but didn't account for that ending. Although seeing this duel pan out like that, i wonder how retri pally ever would win a fair duel to a frost mage, it's most likely impossible?
Not really frost mage so you can't be good just do what the game intends for you to do. Recap if you play frost you can't be good. Only average or bad.
@@Stalloner It's just weird to me that people think that anything a frost mage does is skill related. It ain't. Frost mage is just not hard to pvp on at all, and I hate seeing people be prased for something that isn't praise worthy.
@@trentongardner2106 not in this case tho, frost mage had 0 chance of killing that stream sniper with that build and all those buffs. So wining was actually just pure unadulterated skill.
As someone who played WoW a decade ago, and havent touched it since and became a casual dad. I love this new content. So godamn much. Literally jumped after the pally was slept out of bounds 😂😂. Laughed my ass off. Soo.. good.. Maybe ill play again. 😅
This is like farming green titanite shards in DS1 for an hour to upgrade your weapon enough to beat 4 kings on a no death run and then getting 2 hit by them on your attempt
Seriously agree. All those buffs, all that prep, and Ziqo(sp) the mage was able to pull enough Tricks and stunts out of his belt to outlast the pally, live, and pull out a W. On that same note, whatever happened to Diminishing Returns on CC affects? Like, that dude got Sheep'ed, a dozen times or more. What kinda BS is that?
@@anthonychristy9239polymorph also heals you to full, so it's not neccessarily quite the "gotcha" in duels in all situations.. but yes mages were relatively powerful in vanilla if you knew what you were doing... I think the main thing that helped ziqa here is that the streamsniping french loser is bad at the game.. and relying on so much ultimate cheese that he doesn't feel the need to optimise his gameplay or ability use... if he had used his abilities a bit better, ziqa may have failed in kiting him around for long enough to find a solution. Ziqa could've also gotten much more unlucky with resists, given the cheese potions... so there was some luck involved rather than simply the mage class' "strength"
It's not exactly that mages are OP but a paladin is one, if not THE worst class to fight with against mage. That streamsniper should've taken something like a rogue, hunter, warlock etc.
Yeah, and instead he got cheesed because Ziqo knew he was dead, so he chose the worst, most dishonorable way to flee the duel. CC'ing someone out of a Makgora.
@@pewthepuny2849 And he asked for it. He deserved either death or coward debuff, but he prefered to chose the most dishonorable way, and in addition, to brag about it and send his army of NPCs harass Firestar's guild for a duel 99% of the guild didn't even know was going to happen.
@Carpatouille are you really so dense as to talk about honor while supporting Firestarter in yhe same breathe? He and his guild are getting what they deserve. That's what happens when you're GM is a rat and a coward, the epitome of dishonor. Leave the guild or deal with the backlash. Poetic justice
@lordcarl3094 Firestarter knew exactly what he was doing but got caught slacking. In a fight to the death, anything goes. Firestarter should've known better not to run outside of the duel zone. But 8n the moment he didn't. He got greedy. And now he's paying for it. Hopefully, Firestarter thinks about the lesson learned while he's leveling his next character. Do I actually want Firestarter to be clowned on forever, no. I want him to come back, start leveling again, and have fun. But this is the internet, people will clown on you for much less. Takes your licks and move on.
It really depends on what you're up against, but yeah they're damn versatile and hit hard - Tho hunter, lock, shaman or even priest could've killed mage easy
@@anttihakkarainen1520 In my mind its a quest from Sen'Jin village, but I searched a bit and cannot find it. I think you are correct 😊. Its a reward for a low level quest.
@@anttihakkarainen1520 Yes! Sticky Glue, thats the one I ment! But doesnt have much effect against a ranged player 😁. The sand is more effective, but the glue has more charges. thanks for the correction :)
"He wanted the ad revenue, but instead he became the ad revenue." is probably one of the top 5 throw away lines I've heard online. That's gold.
As an update, Firestar did gain a lot of viewers and success from it. And some people finally understood the context, so he didn't lose anything in the end, debuff is almost finished too.
@@CarpatouilleLook everyone, we found the loser's guild mate.
@@valegrumby You don't seem to have many friends, do you?
@@valegrumby Also funny how little boys get angry when the villain they fabricated in their mind gets something out of the injustice in the end. Can't think for yourselves, can you?
@@CarpatouilleYou are the paladin, aren't you?
This is by far the best thing to come from hardcore wow, this was like prepping for naxx and wiping on the first trash pull with full world buffs
what a bad example, ziqo cheated and should have the 3 days buff
@@jaden344 check your brainrot, it is a serious medical condition
stop it, get some help! @@jaden344
@@jaden344 He didn't cheat he cleverly used game mechanics to put a loser in their place. The prep just to try and kill a streamer only to be embarrassed like this is hilarious.
@@bakabaka73eh the duel zone should be increased imo
Imagine logging onto your guild to prepare for your first hardcore raid, only to find out that your guildmaster spent all his 87 raid buffs on a 1 v 1 duel, with support from another player, and lost.
I would spit on his face ingame, and leave the guild.
@@Whillyy the resistance pot doesnt absorb any damage. He is using the lvl 28 frost resistance potion, and probably has used it many times to roll max amount absorption (2250) to prepare. This potion is also commonly used in naxx during trash and progress runs, also when you got the content on farm to save money.
Imagine trying to lecture people about pots not knowing shit. The definition of the players asmon talks about playing classic right here.
@@Whillyy i don't know what raid buffs are because I could never afford the subscription service to play the game
Now that I think about it, all the gold he used on those consumables and trinkets was probably from guildee dues. I bet he told them he was saving the dues for raid consumables and repairs.
If he was a warrior he could have had a redemption arc but nah this sucks lol
Bro came in there with 20 buffs left the duel with a loss and 21 buffs
Well i would call it a debuff
@@Lithanell its a buff multiplied by minus one
Best comment
The face on the streamsniper when he gets put to sleep outside the duel zone 🤣
i died laughing at the pause on his face when he realised
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To be fair, mage in wow is one of the two most OP classes with unique abilities and ways of playing that are like 20-50% stronger than any other class. That, along with rogue.
@@a-my9ql Every class and spec counters something.
He choose the worst class against mage and the worst place for a duel in a open field.
Especially since both are not max level yet.
Mage is just one of the best classes early game against melee classes.
@@bundleofhumble3119 and Frost mage is countered by what exactly?
This guy needs to be an NPC that appears asleep outside every duel zone from now on.
foreal 😂😂😂
Dont immortalize losers, ziqo deserves an npc more.
@@davidsantiago7808 bad opinion. permanent shame is the best punishment and can never be a good thing for the loser.
@@begetti why would u want to immortalize a loser? For "permanent shame"? Thats dumb Ur the one with the bad opinion lmao. Ur basically no better than the French guy trying to kill ziqo with raid buffs.
I'd rather immortalize the winners.
This is one of the best wow videos of all time. Instant classic.
Dunno, the amount of time Ziqo spent saying the same shit over and over instead of just showing the duel is painful. We get it - he went all out with buffs, we understand english...
@@alwynkotze9891 Yeah him trying to explain the situation ruins his perfect play. Id like to see you throw grenades that good or keep up with kiting.
@@alwynkotze9891 Asmon was the one pausing the vid, not Ziqo lol
@@alwynkotze9891Found another guildie of Firestar
the french guy doesnt ahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahaha@@alwynkotze9891
Something poetic about a Frenchman losing a duel by being a “coward!”
😂
Aftermath: He subsequently waited out the full 72h, then died half a level later in Scarlet Monastery. Ziqo laughed his ass off
No way
Ya frost mage gets mad cuz he doesn't insta win like the class should, and has to resort to cheese to live instead of dying like a man. Frost requires no skill. None. A ferret off the street could play it, and play it well. Stop praising people who play op classes to duel with and actually do what the game design allows. If anyone ever lost to any melee as a frost mage it just means ur trash. Big trash. Also I loved watching his 2 chars die in the arena. Actually realistic gameplay for once.
@@trentongardner2106 True
Really hope this is true
@@trentongardner2106the salt lmao Ziqo did what the game allows.
that face the guy made the second he realized he got played is fucking priceless. you almost never see a smile wiped off someones face that clearly
😂😂😂
I've watched this 5x just for that one part. The realization, Asmon's reaction, Ziqo's laugh, it's a trifecta of genius.
'...see a smile wiped off someomes face that clearly...'*AND THAT FAST😂*
Yall need to chill, it wasn’t that crazy what Ziqo did. I was expecting ziqo to actually win, *that* would’ve been crazy. It was his fault for accepting a duel against a guy with 40 buffs to begin with.
@@JohnLourd-xj8pohe couldn’t see the buffs until after the duel started.
Wow, Ziqo is an absolute gamer. Never panicked and found the option
Yeah with the duel heart pumping, I would have tunnel-vision'd and not think about that.
* a abuse, not option
@@Warchrist abuse? are u fuckin kidding me? The only abuse user in this duel is the paladin, and HE lost
@@Warchrist was Firestar your GM KEKW
@@Pokechamp653 he's probably the druid HAHAHA
A Frenchman, vain and full of pride,
Challenged a foe to mortal tide.
With twenty buffs to aid his might,
He sought to prove his martial right.
But when the foe advanced with grace,
The Frenchman's courage left his face.
His buffs, a useless, empty show,
As fear within his heart did grow.
He turned and fled, a coward's flight,
His honor lost, a shameful plight.
The jeers and taunts, a bitter sting,
A haunting mark, a shameful thing.
But worse than shame, a debuff's blight,
Three days of weakness, a mournful plight.
His strength diminished, his spirit low,
A living testament to his foe.
Forever branded as a knave,
His name a byword, a living grave.
The duel's end, a tragic scene,
A Frenchman's cowardice, a shameful stain.
bars
Beautiful poetry
Beautiful
Amazing
Bro cooked up a Mitchelin star meal here holy
This is like having a full training montage/character arc and once it's showtime your opponent just kicks you in the balls.
no no he is immune to everything, more like lured into the edge of the ring and losing by charging him head on like a caveman lmao
It's like that episode of Samurai Jack where a team of bounty hunters go through an entire montage of planning and setting up the perfect trap to kill the samurai, overcoming their personal differences and egos to utilize all of their unique individual skills to maximum effectiveness, only for Jack to defeat them in the time it takes a drop of water to hit the ground.
@@TheDoctorofOdoIsland Hah holy shit Samurai Jack, that takes me back 😂😂
@@CzDelta92 yeah, reminds me a bit of Dark Souls 2 where a big boss charges you like a bull and falls to his death. Video is called "Dark Souls 2 How To Cheese The Dragonrider"
80s Karate movie music playing
LMAOO I was in tears watching your reaction to this Asmon it's like you said, this was like a movie script 🤣🤣🤣 the comments & reacts on this has been an absolute gold mine. Keep up the good work fellas.
you got him good bro instant karma for mr. trash pala 🤣
all these years of experience, you are a machine my friend the way you keep your cool is insane. mad respect.
Absolutely insane gameplay from your part. Legendary
The black lizard 🦎 is the dueling goat 🐐
best mage
Ziqo is the new hardcore raid boss 🤣
Until 3 non elites with trash come and own him.
@@kurisu100 well, 1 elite is harder than this paladin
gl next circus Firestar
Bro I’m waiting for his returning day for the revenge 😂
The new spongebob looking guy who has to magic dust people out of duel zones of makgoras, because he can't win. A loser.
That French guy has the same energy as Influencers boxing old Boxers.
you accept you strap in and go.
This is definedly one of the WoW moments to be remember.
The two perspectives and the build up, just make it so perfect. Hells I didn't know who Ziqo is, but the first few minutes tells the full story. From there you can sit back and hold your breath to see how it's going to end.
this is early 2000's MMORPG shit but in the era of streaming, this were the legend stories you hear back in the days LOL
Never even played WoW and this was still amazing to watch lol
@@TheToxicDoom Un-Ironically got my interest to this game, downloading it right now
what are some others I can watch? this was way too entertaining
This is nothing compared to legend LEEROY JENKINS
Ziqo didn't even break a sweat, he was so calm throughout it all. The paladin was so confident with his 500 buffs lmao his face was priceless. Best video ever lol.
Why would ziqo sweat. Frost mage is broken and my dead grandma could beat any melee class as well with frost. Seriously no skill required yall just like the taste of z's nuts I guess.
@@trentongardner2106Hey look its the sniper 😂.
@@trentongardner2106ziqo is a pvp legend, the dude his arguably the best mage player in pvp. The truth is that the pally got what he deserved.
why break sweat when polly existsts?
that one dude who was playing and watching ziqo's stream and whispered him to bait into coward debuff right near the start of the duel was an unsung hero tbh. gave ziqo something to grasp his focus to in such a hard moment when the reality of this raid-buffed duel hit him
The fact that he streamed it is just a cherry on top. Giving all of us a frontline view of what its like to get so epicly owned you will never be able to recover.
That's because he didn't do anything wrong, Ziqo couldn't win the duel so he had to flee the makgora by magic dusting a Paladin out of the makgora zone as a MAGE, he's a loser.
@@Carpatouille The loser has the debuff..... Its a fight to the death, both players knew the rules. WTF did the sniper do in following Ziqo out of the duel area? He opened the door & Ziqo took it. He fooked up, its his own fault. He was outplayed & should consider giving up WOW & playing tiddly winks
@@Carpatouilleis that you french sniper failerino?
@@sticktothefacts8905 Blizzard SPECIFICALLY said before the HC servers were out that they wanted to avoid people getting CC'D out of a Makgora. A DUEL TO THE DEATH. Are you guys so dense you can't comprehend that?
Are you guys so much of NPCs blindly following and trust what your your gourous say to the point you ignore what you SAW? Zyqo LOST. He effectively cheesed out and FLED the duel, because he ADMITTED he COULDN'T WIN.
Also, Firestar was the highest rated ret paladin in Cataclysm, a known Gladiator at the time and I think he's better than all of you NPCs combined.
@@sticktothefacts8905 Also, Zyqo ASKED for the makgora. HE'S the one who fucked up. He just used an unintended cheese to avoid the debuff or dying. In a duel to the death, as a Makgora, HE lost.
Moments like this are what makes WoW such a great game. This was like watching part 1 Naruto Chunin Exams and using some 3000iq strategy to beat your opponent
Frenchie just got 1000 years of pain'd
The words of a child
I always knew that the biggest rat in wow history had to be a paladin
Or a hunter
He is a frenchie. What else would you expect from those cowards? Look at WW2
@@UNSCconnor Ah, WW2... Too many american movies for you kid, you better get back to school! And even there, they will still teach you that USA saved the world...and ignore the fact that it was Russia who actually stopped Germany completely, at an insane cost (millions of deaths). America, as the RAT, came by the west when Germany was completely weaken to take the win.
And I won't go into more recent events, when you see americans running like cowards out of Afghanistan after 20 years of useless occupation haha
you have a few mistakes in the word rogue
french paladin*
Remember we got an entire history of frenchies waving their white flag
Wow, that is pathetic as hell. He brought a gun to a boxing fight only to be tripped out of the ring.
This is the best analogy for this situation 🤣
More like a spiked kevlar vest since he had eye for an eye aswell to counter the mage and bunch of rezistance.
That scene of World War Z with the scientist trying to leave the plane
He was dueling a mage.... do you think any paladin can beat a mage without buffs?
@@benjamenmobley5924So what
As someone who speaks french this guys gives off the biggest psycho vibes I have ever seen from a wow player. I'm so glad for this ending.
Rough translation??
Im not surprised. Given how much time he wasted to lose a 1v1 in a videogame
@@Thatdudewiththedogs he's basically saying "come here ziqo, give me your ears, i'm coming for you, stop running etc, and then at the end he's like "oh bitch"
@@MellonVegan yeah I mean, think about the whole context of the video and this dudes goal, he’s most likely a sociopath for sure. Unhinged to say the least.
@@Thatdudewiththedogs check thibautm's comment pretty much sums it up. But the tone in which he was saying it was very odd. Like a damn molester or something.
A friend and I were doing 2v2 arena in Cata, I was a rogue and had the legendary daggers. I was a reasonably good player and raided with a hardcore guild. Anyway, we enter this arena and soon realise there is a druid, no partner, just sat there like he was AFK. I immediately though this will be a quick win and move on. This druid bear owned us, stunlocked me, killed my buddy in seconds and just went to town on me after. Never, underestimated another player ever again. Sub rogue with those daggers in PVP were pretty OP back then, but get cocky and OP means nothing.
No one asked.
@@Long-Horse sounds like ur a noob that only knew how to dps a target that didnt fight back. you were never a reasonably good player, you just a pve andy.
Holy shit, this is one of the most iconic things I’ve seen in classic! xD
Little bro was so proud, planning like a fucking psychopath, even decided to stream it so everyone could witness. Even if he had won, he‘d still be clown, but the fact he got put in the dirt, in the most embarrassing kind of way, with his character now having „Coward“ written on his forehead, just makes this fucking perfect. :‘D
I've heard that he died 1-2 days later when he still had that debuff. If it's true, then it gets even better.
@@malbazz Nah even better. :D
He played for the whole duration of the debuff, struggling his way through it and made like 8 levels iirc, just to die the exact same day he lost the debuff. It’s so perfect, it’s almost hard to believe. :‘D
Haha. Serves him right @@JamCie
@@malbazzyall are too far up z's ass. It's a game, and the dude did something fun for a change. Instead of just letting a frost mage frost bolt someone to death, and the mage still didn't die cuz they are a broken class on classic. Maybe it would be better to see this duel in retail where the classes are actually somewhat closer to balanced.
@@trentongardner2106 the mage didn't die because the french guy was so dumb, he left the area and lost lol. I cant stop laughing, its like watching someone drown or die to the elevator boss.
He's lucky he has so many potions to compensate for the debuff. Gold well spent.
They won't last all 3 ingame days lol.......and he has only 19 or so silver left I think it was said.
I've just checked his stream, he's playing without pots and I think he said Blizz will remove the debuff (my French is not great)
@@Alex-wd4is That would be BS if they removed it, he got played despite treating it like a raid boss. Hell, if it were me and I lost, I'd seppuku my character for such a disgrace.
@@daedelous7094 Man that made me laugh out loud so hard. That's exactly what I would do.
@@daedelous7094 If I were Blizz I'd change the debuff for him to 6 days and also change the rules that the debuff timer only ticks down for while you're in combat. Frenchie bonus right there
Dr. Strange: i saw 14 million futures, you only win in 1
Thats a good callback
Bro can you explain why Ziqo challenged him to duel(or why he accepted the duel) when he didn't know anything about his enemy ? I dont play wow
@@LeorioSusano He got challenged and he accepted, Ziqo is a high skill player theres not that many people who would win as a melee vs a frost mage so no reason to really decline free content
As to "why" its because he's unaware of all buffs the opponent has since you couldn't check that in classic and obviously whatever resources he had in his backpack
@@LeorioSusano Ziqo is one of the best players in the game, he also does it for content so of course will duel. Ziqo had no way of seeing those insane buff before the duel started, Paladin is probably the first person to ever do that countless hours getting the mats to make the potions get the buffs set up a situation where it was impossible to lose all on a mid level char.... that he ended up losing anyway is perhaps the greatest fail in pvp WoW history. All that prep work weeks worth and to just get outplayed out thought out IQed, I have not played wow in near 16 years the level of pathetic the paladin displayed cannot be described.
This just shows how fucking broken frost mage is - that you literally have to come prepared for a raid boss to beat one
tbf hes not some random mage hes got countless rank one titles
I‘ll get that. But even then if you are a professional you‘ll use the best tool you have at hand.@@monkeydragonravenking5653
@@monkeydragonravenking5653
Zico became a legend after this ❤❤ true sportsman soul , respect!!😊
or how broken ret pally is? took 0 damage and still lost hahahahhahahhaa
True
Wow classic is giving us memories again. Truly a unique game.
WoW Classic was Blizzard's best decision in a Decade.
Useless company shit the bed with wc3 reforge
the man couldve started his streaming career if he laughed about it afterwards or something but the fact that he took it so serious is what makes it entertaining to us as the viewer
Well its entertaining up to the point you play HC and some rando invites you to a duel and hold and behold its nr1 just wiping a floor with you and if you prepare for the fight like this guy you are only ridiculed, and if you win you would have been made into a villian which is.. kinda sad.
@@JimmyTheAIjust so you know, it's "lo and behold"
@@TheTuttle99and just so you know it is low
@@noha112 but it isn't... "lo" means "look" in the context of this phrase. This is very easily checked if you look up the meaning and origin of the saying.
Not sure why you wouldn't have done that before attempting to correct somebody lol
this is still just epic
I just imagine the pain and horror he’s experiencing at this situation. First he gets the debuff which would sting. Then it goes viral that would REALLY sting. Then he boots up RUclips and asmons reacted to it
than he remembered he was himself streaming with webcam on :D
Asmon reacting is the worst thing that could happen on it all if you don't care about getting views and viewers. Lot of harassment from 2IQ fans, even in the guild. Insults, people going full racist and hate speech, it can even be viewed in the comment section. It's not as bad as in the beginning, but we still get idiots harassing from time to time in game.
Thankfully Firestar and the guild actually recovered well and went even further from this situation.
@@Carpatouille Oh nooo, mean words. Words that probably won't even be said in French for him to understand. This was his own miscalculation, and people will forget after a week.
@@Mr.Ford3350 Been a week so far and it's still being talked about
i'd just like to add here, for posterity's sake: Firestar went to SM with his guild to level there, basically to just ignore the debuff and continue on with his life. They wiped, Firestar was like level 43 then.
RIP classic french villain, your character arc may have been of a side character and not the main villain you hoped for. but if Ziqo's Hardcore Adventures was a series, you were the the most memorable character.
That did not go how I expected. I love it
This dude put more effort into fighting one guy in wow than he probably has in anything else in his whole life.
and failed :D :D :D thats a rope situation :D :D
@@Artifexmaholifts my goodness, is it that time again?😊
Considering Firestar is the only one who reached 60 in HC on a PvP realm, Firemaw, I would say it's not true, though he did prepare a lot for Makgoras, as anyone who plans to do so should. It's a clownish mistake to come unprepared to a duel that seals the fate of your hard earned character in this game.
@@Carpatouille Hey you! I've noticed you frequently defending someone who's referred to as a loser, a stream sniper, and a wannabe content creator who tries to hurt others for his own entertainment. I'm curious about your motivation, and I'd appreciate it if you could share.
@@caginkansal3896 came back to this video to check if he was still commenting trying to defend this guy and apparently he is a guild mate to him and is just salty that everyone is spiting on his coward stream sniper piece of shat friend
Surprised that after a week he is still coming back to try and defend him
These are exactly the kind of stories I was hoping HC would produce. Epic story! Never give up!
I love that even after all of this time stuff like this can still be etched into WoW history.
mage op. trash.
Bro that was probably one of the most satisfying things I've ever seen Asmon. As always you're the man and fuck off 😂. Love to see you still going strong after all these years. I remember watching you years ago spazzing tf out and now look. Good shit man
That guy deserves a meme. Or several memes, to be remembered forever in the MMORPG genre.
Jeah man
IT must be iconic
It Made Itself.
The Angry Frenchie
That's a certified /spit moment. Amazing control from Zigo against a legit unwinnable opponent.
Would have gone differently for the Firestarter dude if he didn't pop his bubble and trinket so aggressively. Holy crap Ziqo did amazing even though 20 of his spells were resisted and his poly was breaking so fast. Legendary, Will remember this forever.
Dude can't play pala to save his life
Dude underestimated one of the best players.
Using magic dust on a paladin out of a duel isn't legendary, it's a coward piece of shit move man.
@@Carpatouille Kek! 😂
bro did you even see the vid lol.......@@Carpatouille
Imagine having all the advantage and still losing 😂
Ziqo is like Captain Kirk winning in the unwinnable Kobayashi Maru scenario
is that a sushi restaurant?
probably@@pineapplesmoovey7898
incredible reference
Kirk cheated
nah this is better than that, ziqo didn't have to change the conditions of the test and basically cheat like kirk, he just outsmarted him on the spot using mechanics of the game itself
Sometimes when you can't win, make your opponent lose 😂
This dude had a ticket ready even before the match ended lol
The most well played duel i’ve ever seen 😂😂😂
Imagine if he used all those buffs just for Zeeko to decline his duel and walk by LMAo
Ziqo is the one asking for the duel.
THAT WOULD BE LEGENDARY
is he? he say oops i accept it at the start@@maximef.994
Firestar is playing RIGHT NOW and the debuff is STILL UP.
Literal clown. I'd delete that character and create a new if i were him, lmao.
And he insta bans everyone mentioning the buff 😂
and he bans whoever mentions it XD
Confirmed, INSTA ban when mentioning the debuff LMAO
This may be a hot take, but all I see is a man who really lives the sentence: "If you take a shot at the king, don't miss." He knew his target was a Rank 1 Glad who loves killing people in Mak'gora... so he decided he's going to make him regret his life choices... and so he spent more time prepping for this than Batman would to fight Superman. He then got help to scout and bait a perfect trap and Ziqo fell into it hook, line and sinker. Insane props to Ziqo, of course, as he proved to everyone why he's #1 because he found a way to win in a borderline unwinnable situation. All in all, amazing PvP event happened - one for the ages - and it took both sides to make it happen
EDIT: Just saw to the end where the dude asked his guild to mass report Ziqo. N/M, he's a little whiny bitch boy - can respect the way this all went down, but should have taken his L like a man.
I agree, great prep from the pala, even greater gameplay from Ziqo.
Also, Blizzard answered Firestar's ticket, and confirmed it indeed is a bug, and that they planned to fix it as they overseen magic dust CC for the rule of not being able to get CC'd out of a Makgora like he was. People misinterpretation because of Asmongold's retardation in this case is probably why they didn't remove the buff, even though Blizzard pretended they couldn't remove it. But the debuff is almost over, and the guild is going stronger than ever.
Personal opinion, Zyqo is the one who should have taken the L like a man as you say. Dude admitted himself he couldn't win, so in a duel to the death, he either deserved death or coward debuff, especially as a mage playing against as paladin, and challenging Makgora unprepared.
@@Carpatouille firestar is a pathetic weasel and so is anyone in his guild if they watched this incident. He cheated and 100% deserved the coward debuff.
@@Carpatouillenah firestare stream sniped like a true rat
@@Carpatouille delusional
This is pure gold, I praise the guy for the mega preparation he really "went to war" there and went all out guns blazing but even so the gap between Mage and Pala is to big to be covered even with so many buffs, he may have failed the mission but his sneakiness will live on!
His emotions when he is chasing Ziqo out of bounds and then getting slept out of bounds:
😎😎😎🤔🤨😮😦😭🤡
I dont play wow buy can you explain why is ziqo not get out of bounds but the other does?
@@p0ntess you need to stay out of bounds for a few seconds for it to trigger and he would go out and in of bounds before the timer ran out while putting him to sleep made him stay outside for the necessary time
Love how he has like instant knowledge of where exactly you go to open a support ticket
All the buffs in the world wont stop a pro mage/rogue from endlessly resetting a pally in vanilla, epic ending
Of all the classes to duel with he chose paladin wut….
Perfect example of "you come at the king, you best not miss" 😂
the most hilarious thing is that he would've got away with it if he laughed about it and said a friendly gg to Ziqo xD
So Ziqo is the good guy here trying to kill off random ppl in hardcore that has no idea who are they about to fight?...
@@JimmyTheAI oh he would definetly be a bastard if he randomly attacked players by surprise. But those are "Duels to the death", you know what you risk, and you can expect the player who callenged you to be good. they were free to get away, but if they accept and loose, i don't see what makes him a bad guy. they played they lost.
@@someboredguy972 iam saing you can hate on one and praise the other, one goes around trying to bait players to die.. because they werent prepared for what came.. and then he ridicules a guy that comes prepared becasue he comes prepared, pretty narcistic behaviour
Duel is not a bait at all. He challenges ppl, and if they accept, they also accept the risks of facing someone way stronger that them.
And as for that guy, he's not mocked because he was overprepared, sure he spent countless ressources, got every single buff in the game, got every useful items, spec'd for Ziqo in particular, basically made sure to leave no single chance to Ziqo, and still lost, but if that was just it, he wouldn't have been mocked, ppl would've just praised Ziqo and move on.
No, he's mocked because he was arrogant, wanted to snipe Ziqo, was certain he could defeat him, came fully prepared, and when he lost, he raged and tried to have Ziqo mass-reported, this is all of these combined that have him mocked.
@@someboredguy972 problem is that uts what ziqo says, no? For all i know he could have been killed before went after him and got baited and lost, the ticket was unnecessary but you know, he spent time and got marked a runner when he didnt ran. Also many times they commented on how he is focused and smirks he really didnt not that it changes anything.
I can't play wow anymore due to eye, but this wow hc series is pure gold and gives me both enjoyment and nostalgia, very entertaining Asmon 👍
whats wrong with your eyes? that sucks!
@@lswallie Blind on one eye (glas eye) then on my remaining eye I had to do surgery to save eyesight, but after that I get pain in eye while playing anything that has lots of effects or movement, so basically all 3d games are off limits for me nowadays. I adapt lol it just is abit sad I can't play all the games I want anymore, but could always be worse (^_^)
@@Zycoreination Damn dude, sorry you have to go through that. I dont know if it's possible but I hope it get's better with time!
I dont know you but I wish you the best broski
@@SuperDynaZty Thanks bro 👊 I'll be alright, whatever happens I'll just adapt and keep enjoying what I am able to do (^_^)
@@Zycoreination Wow man, this is heartbreaking. So sorry to hear that. But in my book, you're a total badass for overcoming this adversity. I have eternal respect for you my bro. Keep being a legend.
This may be one of the most legendary duels ever. That ending was better than I could have ever imagined. 3 days in-game. LOL.
Yea so legendary spaming sheep over and over again 😂
@@RichyRich2607 is it as legendary as using raid buffs and getting your friends to buff you before "1v1"ing someone?
@@BlackfeatherMain This only further supports my statement...there was nothing legendary about it.
@@RichyRich2607 I'd call the mage actually thinking ahead enough to plan out the sleep powder use on the pally mid fight a pretty amazing outplay.
whats with the play button in the middle of the damn shot...
Fun fact: firestar was trying to report ziql and to have the coward rebuff remove by support
He just asked the support to remove the debuff because it's a bug. Stop making drama
@@jaxteller5974 how is the coward debuff a bug?
@@jaxteller5974 how the f is this a bug?
@@jaxteller5974found firestar’s burner
@@jaxteller5974 he asked all his guild to mass report
That's crazy, I had no idea the duel was so intense prior to the epic sleep. Nicely done.
I haven’t even played WoW before. I just enjoy watching the loss and pain of hardcore players anyways 🙂
so...buffs are big deal in vanilla wow?
Imagine he did all those buffs and he just declined the duel
Take a closer look, Zilqo sent the duel challenge.
He wouldn't have cared, Ziqo CHOSE to accept the makgora KNOWING. Yet when he couldn't win, he chose the coward way to magic dust out of duel. Dude had to cheese a makgora before by leveling up during one.
@@TheBaconShaman Yeah, people overlook shit and take his words as facts, when it didn't happen that way.
@@Carpatouille look better, he didn't know about the rows of buffs, since Alliance/Horde don't see buffs of each other when they aren't hostile (aka when they are outside of combat)
You can see it when Ziqo show his own POV; before the duel, he targets the Paladin, and there's no buff shown, and later during the duel, when he goes out of battle (to drink to regen his mana) the buffs also disappear
@@Carpatouille Found the druid friend! Frenchie got clapped because he's stupid.
I don't think he had enough buffs. He came unprepared.
I never get bored of watching this clip. Hardcore history. Ziqo BASED.
Man prepared for armagedon just to be put to sleep
“Know your place” couldn’t of said it better. Love this
So much amazing content coming out of hardcore WoW even if you don't play it. Beautiful.
A reminder and a cautionary tale.
Being the very best is never just a simple matter of having the best stats and abilities, especially not when you hold the title for so long.
Yea and just make sure to also be playing a broken as fuck class like mage in vanilla. XDDDD
@@MetalStorm909 100% this. The guy had all the buffs, all that advantage, and the mage still held its own. The class literally plays itself.
@@wewuzkangz2505 you also need to be able to play the class really good to be able to pull this off. Lets not pretend that everyone would have survived this just by playing mage
@@razien9941 Indeed, but that goes for any class. It's just that mage is a crutch, it adds +20% to your base skill level on its own, you don't have to think about certain things, and you aren't punished for others.
@@wewuzkangz2505 sounds like you play a melee class. there are plenty of ways to beat mages. Druid outright counters them, warlock beats them, and hunters/shamans are skill matchups, rogue is slightly disadvantaged but can win as well, the other classes are supposed to lose to mage so they will only win if they're much better players than the mage
I remember playing as a priest and an enemy paladin was attacking Thunder Bluff. I could see all of his buffs and dispelled them. He came back, and I dispelled them again. He never saw it coming.
He has the smug look of satisfaction that I imagine every Reddit contrarian has when they think they zinged you because you didn't cover 1000% of your bases when making a point.
Not only that, but the contrarian is WRONG when making the point too but he doesn't know that and too many idiots agree with him, so he's literally drowning in smug.
Why in the world are you arguing with obnoxious redditors? Watch paint dry instead.
Easily one of the most epic and hilarious moments in wow and backfires in gaming in general!
Your high-pitched voice when talk/laughing is epic.
Whole time I kept thinking what kind of person would go through all this trouble and put in the time… then Ziqo mentioned he’s French.
At that moment it all made sense
Duels to the death should remove all buffs from both players
This is the best example why it doesent matter...
obviously it matters, if ziqo didnt have the magic dust and gigamind IQ he wouldnt have been able to ever kill that paladin@@GarbanzoPlays
why? it's part of the game, anything goes
@@dakineprotoss ok first of all if buffs would be removed, such beautyful scenes wouldnt exist and we had no base to talk. Second thats what i ment: with gigabrain and a small toolbox you can outsmart fools. But needles to say in this discussion i am the mage and you are the pala... have a great day/night
It's fine when you don't deliberately make ally to chase horde and hide your 3+ rows of buffs and pots.
This is so good. I see many people complaining about the buffs in makgora but imo it is exactly how it should be, precisely for moments like this to exist. Everything goes.
It's like no one watched Baki
Buffs are fine, if you don't deliberately try to hide them by making an Alliance character and then running around chasing Horde streamers..
"Everything goes" is the exact opposite of the idea of a mak'gora.
@@pm_me_ur_gluons no it isnt lol, it's basically duel to the death with rules determined by participants, if you don't discuss it beforehand and type "I agree" you agree to using everything the game has to offer. I guess you watched the Warcraft movie? The makgora there is not a defnitive way that it's done in the universe, its a plot device.
@@TheSnHIMshowno one has
He wanted his 15 minutes of fame. He got three days :D
I watched this wondering "How is this frost mage going to beat through this paladin's frost absorb potions and kill him?"
The ending was surprising, but somehow even better than if he killed him.
Epic. This ought to be immortalized somehow (and mentioned again, in the future, or at least at the end of the year!).
Yeah, Ziqo rat of the year, can't win a makgora so he calls the guy a streamsnipper for equipping gear with resists for mage, so he had to flee out of the duel by magic dusting out of duel zone, when Blizzard said they didn't want it to happen. Is it in a MAKGORA spirit to do that stuff? Nope.
uuuu the salt🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 @@Carpatouille
@@Carpatouillewhat do you call it then? The dude stalked him and cheesed the fight for the win…but, he got played back by Ziqo. At least he got to keep his toon.
This should become a title like Jenkins.
@@whataday2624 I don't blame Zyqo for keeping his toon, it's the way he did it and basically unfairly made Firestar look like an asshole, it's the lies and the fact people blindly trust him. Dude tries to makgora people without gear, level up while in a duel to the death because he was about to lose, he exploits every single bug mechanic he can.
Yet when others play the game normally, it's unfair because Zyqo was too dumb to challenge to a Makgora someone who was prepared for it.
Also he didn't stalk, Zyqo asked for challengers so he used his stream to get to him, and Zyqo asked for it.
If Blizzard didn't fuck up, Zyqo would have had the debuff or died, which he was lucky not to seeing how low his health was at times regardless.
And a viewer gave him the magic dust outside of duel idea, and he was so proud of himself for that.
I don't get how anyone but dishonorable scums can see zyqo as a winner here, in a duel to the death where the dude just escaped death, he did not win.
And I thought the priest that got lay on hands'd at 1 hp by a paladin to then abandon that said paladin was the most pathetic thing I was gonna see.
Turns out it wasn't, and the worst/best part is that he also recorded it himself because he was so sure it was impossible for him to lose LMAO
I've never felt so much cringe from an unknown person and at the same time felt happy at the outcome
I have never played WoW in my life, and even I understand the level of OWNED that this is. This is worse than losing to your little sister in tekken when all she does is pick the pretty girl and press press Square.
nah, that's just the vanilla mage being OP as always
@chiffa37 don't know anything about wow like I said, but it seems like he won because he outsmarted the guy, not by force.
@@kingjabon people hate mages so much that they justify the rat behaviour its psychopathic
@slof69 I get it. Mages are powerful in gaming. I play pillars of eternity 2, so I know, but I've always liked when people take gaming seriously like this, so I wouldn't call the guy a rat, lol it's always been fun abusing people in games it's just that it failed miserably this time lol
@@slof69 @chiffa37 mage is strong, but he also slept him with an item that anyone can get, in the end any class can dq the guy
I was wondering how the paladin was gonna lose that, but didn't account for that ending.
Although seeing this duel pan out like that, i wonder how retri pally ever would win a fair duel to a frost mage, it's most likely impossible?
Man powered up like Goku on Namek, only instead of golden hair he got a clown wig.
The druid was doing more than watching. He was staying close enough to give him the survival of the fittest buff also
That was insanely well played. Just the fact that he bought enough time and CCed him outside of the duel range.
Not really frost mage so you can't be good just do what the game intends for you to do. Recap if you play frost you can't be good. Only average or bad.
@@trentongardner2106 why are you so mad? did your hero lost a duel? hahahah
@@Stalloner It's just weird to me that people think that anything a frost mage does is skill related. It ain't. Frost mage is just not hard to pvp on at all, and I hate seeing people be prased for something that isn't praise worthy.
@@trentongardner2106 not in this case tho, frost mage had 0 chance of killing that stream sniper with that build and all those buffs. So wining was actually just pure unadulterated skill.
@@Stalloner well he didn't win. He pulled a guldan and cheated
"He's just resisting everything dude"
Yeah, sounds about right when dueling a paladin
As someone who played WoW a decade ago, and havent touched it since and became a casual dad. I love this new content. So godamn much. Literally jumped after the pally was slept out of bounds 😂😂. Laughed my ass off. Soo.. good.. Maybe ill play again. 😅
Haven't played wow in a long time, but I'm so glad I played it so I can appreciate content like this.😂
This is like farming green titanite shards in DS1 for an hour to upgrade your weapon enough to beat 4 kings on a no death run and then getting 2 hit by them on your attempt
a propeller hat on top of the debuff would be incredible
I feel like this just shows how ridiculously op mages are in classic.
If anything it shows the endurance you have to have to be a mage.
Paladin should have bopped him many times over with all those buffs
Seriously agree. All those buffs, all that prep, and Ziqo(sp) the mage was able to pull enough Tricks and stunts out of his belt to outlast the pally, live, and pull out a W. On that same note, whatever happened to Diminishing Returns on CC affects? Like, that dude got Sheep'ed, a dozen times or more. What kinda BS is that?
@@anthonychristy9239polymorph also heals you to full, so it's not neccessarily quite the "gotcha" in duels in all situations.. but yes mages were relatively powerful in vanilla if you knew what you were doing... I think the main thing that helped ziqa here is that the streamsniping french loser is bad at the game.. and relying on so much ultimate cheese that he doesn't feel the need to optimise his gameplay or ability use... if he had used his abilities a bit better, ziqa may have failed in kiting him around for long enough to find a solution. Ziqa could've also gotten much more unlucky with resists, given the cheese potions... so there was some luck involved rather than simply the mage class' "strength"
It's not exactly that mages are OP but a paladin is one, if not THE worst class to fight with against mage.
That streamsniper should've taken something like a rogue, hunter, warlock etc.
If you accept a duel for death, you literally ask for being dead.
Yeah, and instead he got cheesed because Ziqo knew he was dead, so he chose the worst, most dishonorable way to flee the duel. CC'ing someone out of a Makgora.
Which was his only option tbh. The guy was basically handed a toy gun and asked to defeat a Sherman tank.
@@pewthepuny2849 And he asked for it. He deserved either death or coward debuff, but he prefered to chose the most dishonorable way, and in addition, to brag about it and send his army of NPCs harass Firestar's guild for a duel 99% of the guild didn't even know was going to happen.
@Carpatouille are you really so dense as to talk about honor while supporting Firestarter in yhe same breathe? He and his guild are getting what they deserve. That's what happens when you're GM is a rat and a coward, the epitome of dishonor. Leave the guild or deal with the backlash. Poetic justice
@lordcarl3094 Firestarter knew exactly what he was doing but got caught slacking. In a fight to the death, anything goes. Firestarter should've known better not to run outside of the duel zone. But 8n the moment he didn't. He got greedy. And now he's paying for it. Hopefully, Firestarter thinks about the lesson learned while he's leveling his next character.
Do I actually want Firestarter to be clowned on forever, no. I want him to come back, start leveling again, and have fun. But this is the internet, people will clown on you for much less. Takes your licks and move on.
Ret pally's reputation would've suffered either way. It was lose/lose for him from the start.
Ziqo making so much money of him, best sub sound 😂
HC sure makes for some fun content. Thank you Ziqo for putting the video together with context so that we can laugh at him together. 😁
the france guy is the reason why we can laugh, so pls be thankful for it, and not be disrespectful as an noname viewr
@@issolol❄️❄️
The look on that guy's face during this whole encounter was priceless
yeah, unbalanced games are trash
This is easily one of the best thing's i;ve seen on youtube this year. Just shows how ridiculously OP mages are.
It really depends on what you're up against, but yeah they're damn versatile and hit hard - Tho hunter, lock, shaman or even priest could've killed mage easy
@@anttihakkarainen1520Totally right 👌
@@anttihakkarainen1520 and what do they have in common. They're all ranged.
Mage is just a melee counter lmfao, only maybe rog can onetap mage caught by a surprise, for the rest, it's over
Nah pallies just suck, one stun and weapon swing is all they can do
As a Horde you get a sleepdust with 10 charges from a quest in Durotar. Smart people save that for moments like this!
Isn't it from Tirisfal Glades tho?
@@anttihakkarainen1520
In my mind its a quest from Sen'Jin village, but I searched a bit and cannot find it. I think you are correct 😊. Its a reward for a low level quest.
@@eddohan I think Sen'Jin had the 'Really Sticky Glue', which is also amazing + the Life Drain skull 😇
@@anttihakkarainen1520
Yes! Sticky Glue, thats the one I ment! But doesnt have much effect against a ranged player 😁. The sand is more effective, but the glue has more charges. thanks for the correction :)
"Hes treating Ziqo like hes a raid boss" Welp you are totally right (:
Dude, huge respect to Ziqo! Unbelievable skills.
Everything about this is great. I think this fits the spirit of classic and hardcore.
mage op is trash game.
I love Ziqo even more now