The juxtaposition of the title is hilarious. An Arab from the area who was deeply embedded in the terrorist organization, a direct victim of the terrorist organization who was taken hostage and saw the terrorists from up close, vs... a random American dudebro who was never even to the land and only read about it.
Can you provide some facts besides a generic statement? There is no privilege. What you're saying is that anybody that wanted to abolish slavery was arrogant. At the end of the day slavery is wrong. Occupation is wrong. Palestinians have been occupied since 1967. Do you understand how inhumane that is? Palestinians are poor. They don't have an army They don't have money. I don't know if Gaza even qualifies as a third world country. The Arab league has guaranteed Israel's security. They guaranteed there won't be any attacks on Israel. All they have to do is give Palestinians the right for self determination. To stop occupying them.
@@DjJoeKhourythere is no "slavery" involved in the interactions between Israel and so-called Palestine, nor is there any colonization for that matter since the Ottoman Empire were the last non-Western colonial force in The Levant before the British stepped in after WWI (and left a few decades later), so that's first-off. Second, there IS privilege paid to the so-called Palestinians since they're allowed to skate by without condemning (indeed, instead condoning strongly in the majority) the continued obstinance of their governing body (i.e. the terrorist organization Hamas), nor do they condemn the actions of said body since their election nearly two decades ago, namely slaughtering and banishing their political opponents, and since then diverting billions in aid dollars from infrastructure maintenance towards building a network of military access tunnels connecting the civilian buildings they use as weapon's depots and command centers, THEN remachining water pipes into rockets to fire indiscriminately into supposedly-tyrannical Israel, not to mention their genocidal actions on October 7th and their hiding behind civilians over the past 13 months and more. If Gaza isn't even a third world country as you say, do you not place any of the blame for this at the feet of their governing body, whose top leaders are (some, thankfully, WERE) billionaires hiding luxuriantly in Qatar since the late unpleasantness..? Thirdly, you've trotted out the common trope of "occupation" and cite 1967 as an important year... do you not acknowledge that Egypt, Syria, and Jordan are lucky to have retained their sovereignty after their attempted (and utterly failed) eradication of Israel which responded with their miraculous performance during the Six Days War, and that the occupation of Judea and Samaria has only continued, and rightly so, due to the prolonged belligerence of so-called Palestinians in the region? Are you not aware of the contradiction in the current "grabbing land" allegations against Israel and their abdication of total control over these assaulting countries in 1967? How about treating so-called Palestinians as though they're people who have made decisions on how they interact with their neighbours, and are therefore beings of agency who are subject to the consequences of their actions, rather than using them as useful widgets for your anti-Western crusade? Spin me a track on that, bud.
@@DjJoeKhoury Some facts: 1 - Hamas leaders are worth $11B while their people is starving. They didn't make this money because they are business geniuses.. 2 - Israel left agricultural equipment (greenhouses and heavy machinery) that produced 30% of Israel's produce when they left the Gaza strip. Doyle is mentioning the Gaza agricultural misery in his answers. Hamas destroyed this equipment on purpose. Hamas is responsible for the starvation. 3 - Hamas/PIJ shot a rocket into their own power plant more than a decade ago (cant remember the exact year). Israel has been the exclusive provider of electricity since then. The Gazan government never even tried to repair it. As a matter of fact, the kibbutzim who were massacred on October 7th had clean renewable electricity set up on their own lands to help their Gazan neighbors. So here are 3 undeniable facts. I could keep going on about how Israel was treating Gazans better than their own government. P.S. I spent almost 3 years in Gaza myself from 2001-2004
@@sirobw28 1. I don’t really question how much they’re worth, but Sinwar kind of debunked that when he was killed in battle with his men. When have you seen another leader fighting with his men? I’m sure Bibi is a billionaire as well. But how do you know how much they’re worth? Is this just based on Israeli propaganda ? You’re giving a specific number. Where is the number coming from? 2. I would like to see the facts on them destroying equipment to supposedly starve people. I don’t even support Hamas, but show me where they destroyed agricultural equipment. 3. Israel has a complete blockade on Gaza. Nothing goes in or out without Israel controlling it. Israel controls the power in Gaza. Along with water and gas. They also pour concrete in water wells and make it illegal for Palestinians to collect rain water. You should see what the settlers are doing in the West Bank. I’ll look up the nuclear power plant they have. Never heard of that. You were a settler in Gaza or in the IDF? Can you also tell us about how the IDF would harass Gazans at 3 am and arrest them without charge? Or how they carpet bomb Gaza every few years? Do you need references or videos of IDF discussing what they’ve done? We also have international doctors talking about kids being shot in the head by IDF snipers. We can also talk about March of return where the IDF snipers shot peaceful protestors. Why do you think so many IDF soldiers have committed suicide recently? Any thoughts?
@DjJoeKhoury 1 was published by Forbes and fact checked all over the place. 2 is very well documented. The power vacuum after Israel left created chaos. Hamas killed their opponents and anyone speaking against them. They destroyed every piece of infrastructure left behind. Also very well documented, journalists from all over the world covered it. 3 Israel didn't have an embargo on Gaza in 2005. Do you want to guess why it happened? Tens of thousands of Gazans used to cross the border to Israel via Erez crossing on a daily basis. All imports were allowed. See for yourself what they did with all the cement and fertilizer they brought in. Egypt also has a closed border with Gaza. As a matter of fact they always kept that border sealed. Wanna guess why again? I am not for the continuous occupation of the west bank and practices like sealing water wells are not something I will defend. Yes, us Israelis also have morals, we're not all a bunch of Bibis. And lastly, I was an EMT in Gaza in the Idf. I also worked in an ambulance team there and saved many Palestinian lives. Even under Hamas fire. I distributed food to gazans at the Rafah crossing. What did YOU do for them except trashing an entire country on RUclips?
As far as "taking money" goes....Interesting how Aidan deflects from the fact he makes money himself off of Tik Tok as an "influencer" "advocating" for Hamas. He stated at the beginning that part of his motivation has been that he's always wanted to be "a political commentator"...that implies as a "career"...for which, I'm sure, he'd like to be paid handsomely...yet, he hurls "getting paid" at Mosab as somehow delegitimizing anything Mosab has to say....Interesting how much self-reflection this arrogant child is missing.
I felt so sorry that Moran Stella and Mosab had to put up with this arrogant rude know it all. Aidan wanted to be popular and read a book and started an encampment to terrorise Jewish students. Aidan can pretend he is helping the cause for this Palastinian movement but he is just in the end a useful idiot to Hamas
So the whole world is wrong, just racist Americans and Zionists? Have you see the votes during the UN meetings. Only the US is against a ceasefire. Are you justifying the murder of innocent children? If it's to get to Hamas, tell me something, how will you know when every Hamas fighter is dead? Can you tell us what defeating Hamas looks like exactly.
I think you're the one who's confused here... he never said that Christianity came to Africa because of missionary, he just made an observation missionaries made about Africans...most of the things this kid is saying is actually recorded by Israeli historians, and instead of belittling him, address his points. Get real
@@sarelbongani3691 I think you misunderstood just like this doyle snotty boy. It is true that 98 percent of what Doyle said was misinformation and hatred of Israelis. The history of Israel is written in the Bible and the Torah. This boy, just like you and other Muslims, is brainwashed and hates the Jews.
@sarelbongani3691 So if some israeli "historians" said it it means it's true? The fact that there are way more israeli historians saying other wise is not a factor, right? You realize you sound like a flat earther who sights the same 3 "scientists" who thinks like him again and again? All most every single claim by those "new historians" has been debunked over and over again. Look, Israel is a democracy and everybody is entitled to their own opinions (unlike most of tbe countries in the region). So, of course, we have voices on both sides. Its ok but it doesn't mean they are right. And yes, a lot of israelies see the violence and the desperation of the palestinias and think its israels fault. Typical left victim mentality (and i say it as a lefty). Still, its ok but it doesnt mean its the truth. You want to adress a point? Right from the jump he is saying the palestinians are a nation and they saw themselves as such from the begining of last century. That is factually incorrect. There is no sign of arabs in the region calling them selves palestinians or claiming a palestine nation/people/state. If there is one, you are welcome to show any proof you got (there is none so dont bother searching). Since the begining it was about a jewish state and an arab state (the greater syria). Plus, he claims there is a difference between arabs in palestine to arabs from the region. Again, its incorrect. Alot of the arabs in palestin came from other arab countries (most of them soudis and egyptian who came for work when the british took over. Hell, most of them today still have egyptian and soudi names). So ya, the man is seriously misinfored. Btw, dont you think is funny that an american who started "researching" the conflict about a year ago think he can "educate" mossab about who and what he is? Dont know about you but i think its hilarious.. Anyway, Im only at the beginning but im sure ill have planty of examples of more misinformation on his behalf.
Moran Yanai was the star of the night. She was so calm and her agenda was to talk that boy around, and to a small extent I think she did. I wonder if they ever met up afterwards. I hope he will wake up and realise the truth of the situation one day. He is totally wrong in his opinion and knowledge but I think he heart might be in the right place. He has no real world experience and it shows. I love Mosab, always have. Totally enjoyed this debate.
oh, this kid, this kid.....IF he ever matures, will be so embarrassed by his behavior and his words....He will be so embarrassed when he realizes how much he thought he knew and how much he will realize he didn't know and couldn't grasp....But, sadly, that's a huge IF.
Probably because they are not willing to have a calm, civilized two-way discussion. They have made up their minds already and they are only interested in silencing the minds of those who disagree.
Encampment Doyle is a very useful idiot who thinks he knows it all. I really hope his eyes will be opened to the spiritual nature of the conflict and he will have a change of heart.
Rene is spot on! 🎯 And she gave the best definition of this guy and everyone else who participates in the encampments, classifying them all as White Entitled Spoiled Americans who want to get attention. 👏🏻👏🏻
And she gave the best definition of this guy and everyone else who participates in the encampments, classifying them all as White Entitled Spoiled Americans who want to get attention. 👏🏻👏🏻
I want to talk to her, because i doubt she's Arab. Not only do almost all Arabs not stand with Israel during this genocide, but the whole world is protesting against what Israel is doing. The Jordanian people don't support their own government because their kins is a sellout. He takes a Billion dollars of US tax payer money. As Americans, why can't our govt invest in our country like China does. China is thriving. They don't attack other countries. They build good relations. The US is doomed and our govt is to blame for our downfall.
The juxtaposition of the title is hilarious. An Arab from the area who was deeply embedded in the terrorist organization, a direct victim of the terrorist organization who was taken hostage and saw the terrorists from up close, vs... a random American dudebro who was never even to the land and only read about it.
The privilege and arrogance shown by the pro pali side is actually mind blowing
Can you provide some facts besides a generic statement? There is no privilege. What you're saying is that anybody that wanted to abolish slavery was arrogant. At the end of the day slavery is wrong. Occupation is wrong. Palestinians have been occupied since 1967. Do you understand how inhumane that is? Palestinians are poor. They don't have an army They don't have money. I don't know if Gaza even qualifies as a third world country. The Arab league has guaranteed Israel's security. They guaranteed there won't be any attacks on Israel. All they have to do is give Palestinians the right for self determination. To stop occupying them.
@@DjJoeKhourythere is no "slavery" involved in the interactions between Israel and so-called Palestine, nor is there any colonization for that matter since the Ottoman Empire were the last non-Western colonial force in The Levant before the British stepped in after WWI (and left a few decades later), so that's first-off.
Second, there IS privilege paid to the so-called Palestinians since they're allowed to skate by without condemning (indeed, instead condoning strongly in the majority) the continued obstinance of their governing body (i.e. the terrorist organization Hamas), nor do they condemn the actions of said body since their election nearly two decades ago, namely slaughtering and banishing their political opponents, and since then diverting billions in aid dollars from infrastructure maintenance towards building a network of military access tunnels connecting the civilian buildings they use as weapon's depots and command centers, THEN remachining water pipes into rockets to fire indiscriminately into supposedly-tyrannical Israel, not to mention their genocidal actions on October 7th and their hiding behind civilians over the past 13 months and more. If Gaza isn't even a third world country as you say, do you not place any of the blame for this at the feet of their governing body, whose top leaders are (some, thankfully, WERE) billionaires hiding luxuriantly in Qatar since the late unpleasantness..?
Thirdly, you've trotted out the common trope of "occupation" and cite 1967 as an important year... do you not acknowledge that Egypt, Syria, and Jordan are lucky to have retained their sovereignty after their attempted (and utterly failed) eradication of Israel which responded with their miraculous performance during the Six Days War, and that the occupation of Judea and Samaria has only continued, and rightly so, due to the prolonged belligerence of so-called Palestinians in the region? Are you not aware of the contradiction in the current "grabbing land" allegations against Israel and their abdication of total control over these assaulting countries in 1967?
How about treating so-called Palestinians as though they're people who have made decisions on how they interact with their neighbours, and are therefore beings of agency who are subject to the consequences of their actions, rather than using them as useful widgets for your anti-Western crusade?
Spin me a track on that, bud.
@@DjJoeKhoury Some facts: 1 - Hamas leaders are worth $11B while their people is starving. They didn't make this money because they are business geniuses.. 2 - Israel left agricultural equipment (greenhouses and heavy machinery) that produced 30% of Israel's produce when they left the Gaza strip. Doyle is mentioning the Gaza agricultural misery in his answers. Hamas destroyed this equipment on purpose. Hamas is responsible for the starvation. 3 - Hamas/PIJ shot a rocket into their own power plant more than a decade ago (cant remember the exact year). Israel has been the exclusive provider of electricity since then. The Gazan government never even tried to repair it. As a matter of fact, the kibbutzim who were massacred on October 7th had clean renewable electricity set up on their own lands to help their Gazan neighbors. So here are 3 undeniable facts. I could keep going on about how Israel was treating Gazans better than their own government. P.S. I spent almost 3 years in Gaza myself from 2001-2004
@@sirobw28
1. I don’t really question how much they’re worth, but Sinwar kind of debunked that when he was killed in battle with his men. When have you seen another leader fighting with his men? I’m sure Bibi is a billionaire as well. But how do you know how much they’re worth? Is this just based on Israeli propaganda ? You’re giving a specific number. Where is the number coming from?
2. I would like to see the facts on them destroying equipment to supposedly starve people. I don’t even support Hamas, but show me where they destroyed agricultural equipment.
3. Israel has a complete blockade on Gaza. Nothing goes in or out without Israel controlling it. Israel controls the power in Gaza. Along with water and gas. They also pour concrete in water wells and make it illegal for Palestinians to collect rain water. You should see what the settlers are doing in the West Bank. I’ll look up the nuclear power plant they have. Never heard of that.
You were a settler in Gaza or in the IDF?
Can you also tell us about how the IDF would harass Gazans at 3 am and arrest them without charge? Or how they carpet bomb Gaza every few years? Do you need references or videos of IDF discussing what they’ve done? We also have international doctors talking about kids being shot in the head by IDF snipers. We can also talk about March of return where the IDF snipers shot peaceful protestors. Why do you think so many IDF soldiers have committed suicide recently? Any thoughts?
@DjJoeKhoury 1 was published by Forbes and fact checked all over the place. 2 is very well documented. The power vacuum after Israel left created chaos. Hamas killed their opponents and anyone speaking against them. They destroyed every piece of infrastructure left behind. Also very well documented, journalists from all over the world covered it. 3 Israel didn't have an embargo on Gaza in 2005. Do you want to guess why it happened? Tens of thousands of Gazans used to cross the border to Israel via Erez crossing on a daily basis. All imports were allowed. See for yourself what they did with all the cement and fertilizer they brought in. Egypt also has a closed border with Gaza. As a matter of fact they always kept that border sealed. Wanna guess why again? I am not for the continuous occupation of the west bank and practices like sealing water wells are not something I will defend. Yes, us Israelis also have morals, we're not all a bunch of Bibis.
And lastly, I was an EMT in Gaza in the Idf. I also worked in an ambulance team there and saved many Palestinian lives. Even under Hamas fire. I distributed food to gazans at the Rafah crossing. What did YOU do for them except trashing an entire country on RUclips?
As far as "taking money" goes....Interesting how Aidan deflects from the fact he makes money himself off of Tik Tok as an "influencer" "advocating" for Hamas. He stated at the beginning that part of his motivation has been that he's always wanted to be "a political commentator"...that implies as a "career"...for which, I'm sure, he'd like to be paid handsomely...yet, he hurls "getting paid" at Mosab as somehow delegitimizing anything Mosab has to say....Interesting how much self-reflection this arrogant child is missing.
I felt so sorry that Moran Stella and Mosab had to put up with this arrogant rude know it all. Aidan wanted to be popular and read a book and started an encampment to terrorise Jewish students. Aidan can pretend he is helping the cause for this Palastinian movement but he is just in the end a useful idiot to Hamas
So the whole world is wrong, just racist Americans and Zionists? Have you see the votes during the UN meetings. Only the US is against a ceasefire. Are you justifying the murder of innocent children? If it's to get to Hamas, tell me something, how will you know when every Hamas fighter is dead? Can you tell us what defeating Hamas looks like exactly.
Don't waste your time with this fella
Why in the world they are debating a guy who clearly has no clue what he’s talking about
What are you referring to specifically? Do you know more than he does? Can you be specific?
46:52 Christianity existed in Africa before Europe.. this kid is severely misinformed about everything
I think you're the one who's confused here... he never said that Christianity came to Africa because of missionary, he just made an observation missionaries made about Africans...most of the things this kid is saying is actually recorded by Israeli historians, and instead of belittling him, address his points. Get real
@@sarelbongani3691 I think you misunderstood just like this doyle snotty boy. It is true that 98 percent of what Doyle said was misinformation and hatred of Israelis. The history of Israel is written in the Bible and the Torah. This boy, just like you and other Muslims, is brainwashed and hates the Jews.
@sarelbongani3691
So if some israeli "historians" said it it means it's true?
The fact that there are way more israeli historians saying other wise is not a factor, right?
You realize you sound like a flat earther who sights the same 3 "scientists" who thinks like him again and again?
All most every single claim by those "new historians" has been debunked over and over again.
Look, Israel is a democracy and everybody is entitled to their own opinions (unlike most of tbe countries in the region). So, of course, we have voices on both sides. Its ok but it doesn't mean they are right.
And yes, a lot of israelies see the violence and the desperation of the palestinias and think its israels fault. Typical left victim mentality (and i say it as a lefty). Still, its ok but it doesnt mean its the truth.
You want to adress a point?
Right from the jump he is saying the palestinians are a nation and they saw themselves as such from the begining of last century.
That is factually incorrect. There is no sign of arabs in the region calling them selves palestinians or claiming a palestine nation/people/state. If there is one, you are welcome to show any proof you got (there is none so dont bother searching). Since the begining it was about a jewish state and an arab state (the greater syria).
Plus, he claims there is a difference between arabs in palestine to arabs from the region. Again, its incorrect. Alot of the arabs in palestin came from other arab countries (most of them soudis and egyptian who came for work when the british took over. Hell, most of them today still have egyptian and soudi names).
So ya, the man is seriously misinfored.
Btw, dont you think is funny that an american who started "researching" the conflict about a year ago think he can "educate" mossab about who and what he is?
Dont know about you but i think its hilarious..
Anyway, Im only at the beginning but im sure ill have planty of examples of more misinformation on his behalf.
@@sarelbongani3691 They just criticize and bully. It's a mob mentality. They don't have any facts or context.
Moran Yanai was the star of the night. She was so calm and her agenda was to talk that boy around, and to a small extent I think she did. I wonder if they ever met up afterwards. I hope he will wake up and realise the truth of the situation one day. He is totally wrong in his opinion and knowledge but I think he heart might be in the right place. He has no real world experience and it shows. I love Mosab, always have. Totally enjoyed this debate.
oh, this kid, this kid.....IF he ever matures, will be so embarrassed by his behavior and his words....He will be so embarrassed when he realizes how much he thought he knew and how much he will realize he didn't know and couldn't grasp....But, sadly, that's a huge IF.
One thing we know for sure is that the perpetrator war criminal natanyahu will be arrested soon!
First things first. Hes gotta shave that embarrassing mustache.
But if we're being as honest and genuine as possible... he's taking these stances and doing this for liberal tail.
@@Reblwitoutacause and the curly mullet look doesn't really help much, if we're going to go there.
Genuine question: where are the people from the encampment? Why are they not joining to have a discussion except for Doyle?
Probably because they are not willing to have a calm, civilized two-way discussion. They have made up their minds already and they are only interested in silencing the minds of those who disagree.
Encampment Doyle is a very useful idiot who thinks he knows it all.
I really hope his eyes will be opened
to the spiritual nature of the conflict and he will have a change of heart.
Wow this boy is so uneducated.
What's he uneducated about? Pick something he said. I'm curious what you're referring to.
1:54:00 you dont speak for "our" people ;)
Rene is spot on! 🎯 And she gave the best definition of this guy and everyone else who participates in the encampments, classifying them all as White Entitled Spoiled Americans who want to get attention. 👏🏻👏🏻
And she gave the best definition of this guy and everyone else who participates in the encampments, classifying them all as White Entitled Spoiled Americans who want to get attention. 👏🏻👏🏻
I want to talk to her, because i doubt she's Arab. Not only do almost all Arabs not stand with Israel during this genocide, but the whole world is protesting against what Israel is doing. The Jordanian people don't support their own government because their kins is a sellout. He takes a Billion dollars of US tax payer money. As Americans, why can't our govt invest in our country like China does. China is thriving. They don't attack other countries. They build good relations. The US is doomed and our govt is to blame for our downfall.
Do you know who's violating human rights Israel!
Go back to bed.
Have they arrested that work criminal natanyahu yet?