When you realize that Serie's restrained mana output is like Frieren's unrestrained output, it puts things in perspective. I think it's also one of the reasons Fern can tell Serie is suppressing her mana, since she's trained with Frieren at such an early age. She's grown up being very acute to it.
Fern was naturally adept to concealing her own mana at an early age. But it’s also curious because Serie dogs on suppressing mana but also does it? Pretty silly
@@tylorscharinger2486 you have to take into account that Serie was Flamme's teacher. So, it's not that farfetched to assume that Serie was the one to teach it to Flamme. Maybe it's just a facade? I mean, even her disciples believe that she isn't suppressing her mana because of how big it is. And, if you remember what happened to Aura, that is to Serie's benefit.
@@tylorscharinger2486I think that maybe the cultural discouragement to suppressing your mana comes from pompes or arrogant mages that derived social rank from their mana I think maybe humanity unwittingly copied the demons in this regard
Eh. It's a bit more nuanced. It wasn't necessarily like "ew, no" moreso just like a flat "No" whereas generally in English it would be more polite to say "no thank you" and just saying a very direct "No" to a generous offer is ever so slightly jarring, but not outright or blatantly rude.
@@iamTnastiiits not tho, there is a difference between shook n awe, there is a friggin famous quote about it all called shock n awe. Why am i giving an english lesson
@@feeltherose Serie literally said she was frozen from the amount of mana she has. The context equates to being shook. The urban slang for shook means you are shocked, in awe, wowed...its the same thing bud.
Every time Serie bullying Frieren, somehow, Fern always give her a payback in a place of Frieren. The first payback is this scene, and the second is the laundry magic, lol.
@@nathanfernandes7085Also, none of her current apprentices match up. NONE of her current apprentices were able to detect that Serie was restraining her mana. Fern is special because she is the only human who saw Serie’s full potential
Lernen could see Frierens mana fluctuating for a short moment with some luck but couldn't see Series mana fluctuating through out a whole lifetime standing by her side. So when Fern could see it right away it put her in top tier.
However, this was mere luck, since in that moment Frieren was emotional and this is when she shortly loses tight control over it. Serie never gets emotional, because anything that could surprise her already happened thousands of years ago ;). Fern was trimmed from early age to work on perfect suppression. So her eye was very trained on little imperfections.
Fern is part of Serie’s School of Magic, literally she is her great grand student of hers, especially Flamme’s branch. As such Fern prefer more “modern” approach of magic taught by Frieren rather than “classical” approach by this millennia old sage. Thus she asked for laundry spell,LOL.
It's not a matter of ''modern'' vs ''classical''. It's a matter of peaceful mages vs battle mages. Serie is a battle mage who thinks every spells that aren't useful in battle are useless. Frieren and Fern are peaceful mages. Fern quite literally has never even learned any offensive magic outside of Zoltraak, every other spells that she's ever learned have peaceful applications.
It's not that deep bro Fern is just attached to Frieren. Fern is a human, not an elf. She ain't weighing between classical or modern. Humans don't put a lot of emphasis on their far future. Getting to "greater heights" simply was never her goal.
@@giantWarioYeah, if anything, the laundry spell would be classical, as it would fall into the category of "folk magic" (like capturing birds or bird-like creatures so long as you can get really close) that Frieren likes to collect. Yet Frieren helped study and develop Zoltraak after the Demon King's defeat, so new vs. old magic means nothing to her. It's the application and purpose of magic, not the origin, that Frieren and Serie don't see eye-to-eye on.
@@giantWario Fern is absolutelly a battle mage - a duelling specialist to be exact, sacrificing wide range of versatile spells for absolute mastery of Zoltraak and modern defensive barriers combined with mana control and detection. Learning some random combat spells would make her WEAKER, therefore she doesnt need them and chooses a useful utility spell that will give her more time to work on actually beneficial skills.
I love how conflicting of a character Serie is. She sees no value in "worthless" magic, but she knows all of them. She gets annoyed at her students' choice of favorite spells, but never forgets them. She is one of the most knowledgeable beings in Frieren, but is emotionally immature.
Serie reminds me a lot of my colleges teachers. Most of them are doctors from prestigious colleges around the world but always prepared to be bad, selfish and arrogant people with anyone, including their our colleagues. Well they're all immature. Knowledge isn't be the same as good in general.
It sound most like she doesn't know how to deal with her feelings. She acts for fully by the logic when there are things that logic can't explain. Emotions can't be comprehended by logic
To put things in perspective that is far simpler, imagine Fern has like 230 IQ but stop learning at grade 12 to enjoy her career, only Frieren realizes this because she has raised/taught Fern since she was a kid, the conversation between Serie and Frieren is basically: "I know you will fail her because she is only grade 12" - said Frieren - "But she will impress you" "Not really, she is just like all other students" - Thought Serie - "Wait, are you solving one of those math problem for professors?" * Grinds * - "Become my student Fern, and you will be smarter than ALL Scholars out there"
Serie: I'm not foolish enough to overlook a promising mage Also Serie: I know your top two in the verse Frieren, And my best students best student, but not only do you fail, your banned for 1000 years!
@@bradthunderpants3283 Read people's mind? Were you watching X-Men? Thats a different show.🤣 Serie is very limieted that she can't even save the people that were turned into gold in the manga.
My guess is, the VA is playing boys sounds all the time, so it sticks into your mind. I actually like her mature voice given to possibly the oldest creature on of this universe.
Fern has plenty of potential, no doubt about it. She could very likely become the most powerful human mage of her generation. But you must have backflipped off of your rocker and landed in the middle of a summer picnic if you actually believe that she could potentially surpass Serie someday. Not even Flamme managed to surpass Serie. Let’s be guided now. Also, this is nothing more than a fan theory that has something of a hint in the anime/manga, but it’s very likely that the person who mentored Serie was none other than the Goddess of Creation that is mentioned multiple times in the story. It is stated that Serie is the closest being in the Freiren universe to the Goddess. The idea of Serie being her student doesn’t seem too far fetched. A human mage surpassing Serie just doesn’t sound plausible.
Serie's VA is the reason i'm not watching this, how is she supposed to have this old mature voice while she's supposed to be some kind of forever child ?
Goofy ass reason lmao you're missing out on peak. Also she's not a forever-child. She's an elf like Frieren. She's a few thousand years old, so she must be around 35 in human years, who knows.
@@A_zafirov Few thousand years old and still like a goddamn child that's what OP's implying. Elves in Frieren are so OP they can live thousands of years and there's no learning cap. Yeah they got slaughtered by demons but that doesn't disqualify them from being broken.
Tf are you on about. None of the elves have a “child” voice. Serie is described as acting like a child and speaking like one about her wants and goals, not that she sounds like one
The art of japanese voice, english dub always ruin every anime... Only english talker thinks it is good, for non english, your language is stoic, bland, merely have impression, just overall trash. When you guys said "it's better!!" Trust me, every non english speaker disagree.
My goodness, we are so fortunate you were willing to use our barbaric tongue to impart your enlightened wisdom. It’s not better or worse. I understand English. I don’t understand Japanese. You can say it’s better all you like, but I’ll have to read subtitles in English to understand as it’s all gibberish to me otherwise. I do not have the time to learn an entire language just to understand audio from a television show. So. Obviously. I prefer to watch in my language. But thanks for dropping by to let us know how superior you are.
@@Elysiumlost not willing, but forced to be exact. If i use my own or other country language, english speaker who only understand english will not understand.
Bro, chill. English VA sounded strange just the same way you watch any American film in Japanese (the famous Thor: Ragnarok "Get Help" Japanese DUB is the perfect example). And historically speaking, English VA is nowhere near as organized as Japanese VA agencies. In fact, in the early days of English Dub, they simply just find "famous" English-speaking actors to do the VO. And if you know how to speak multiple languages, you should know the translation is also a big hurdle. You can translate and it would READ okay, but when you SAY IT, you need to significantly tweak it due to speech pattern, grammar, language/user preferences.
lol english doesnt ruin anything. it's a language. It's not like there's some special aspect to japanese anymore than german, russian, spanish. You have a preference, nothing more. There are english dubs where it's obvious the english VAs far outstrip the originals in acting skill for example
When you realize that Serie's restrained mana output is like Frieren's unrestrained output, it puts things in perspective. I think it's also one of the reasons Fern can tell Serie is suppressing her mana, since she's trained with Frieren at such an early age. She's grown up being very acute to it.
Fern was naturally adept to concealing her own mana at an early age. But it’s also curious because Serie dogs on suppressing mana but also does it? Pretty silly
@@tylorscharinger2486 you have to take into account that Serie was Flamme's teacher. So, it's not that farfetched to assume that Serie was the one to teach it to Flamme.
Maybe it's just a facade? I mean, even her disciples believe that she isn't suppressing her mana because of how big it is. And, if you remember what happened to Aura, that is to Serie's benefit.
@@tylorscharinger2486 she need to suppress her mana. I believe anyone will didn't even try to approach her if she let all of her mana.
@@tylorscharinger2486I think that maybe the cultural discouragement to suppressing your mana comes from pompes or arrogant mages that derived social rank from their mana I think maybe humanity unwittingly copied the demons in this regard
I think though that unlike Frieren, she hasn’t devoted her life to hide her mana
Serie: "Be my student."
Fern: "What? No."
*Cut to Fern absolutely messed up*
Unintentinally hillarious
Lol
Serie: "you give me emotional damage, I give you physical damage"
The nuance is Fern rejected Serie closer to "Ew no!" than "I refuse."
JP Dub's even funnier considering Fern's "formal"-ness,
" Eh, no please! " is closer due to the -desu, alone.
Eh. It's a bit more nuanced. It wasn't necessarily like "ew, no" moreso just like a flat "No" whereas generally in English it would be more polite to say "no thank you" and just saying a very direct "No" to a generous offer is ever so slightly jarring, but not outright or blatantly rude.
She noticed how Fern was able to see her mana fluctuations. Fern saw that she was restraining her true mana output. She was literally shook lol.
She had to ask "what do you see" just to make sure someone Freiren taught actually saw through her mana concealment.
she was not shook, more like an awe of how seeing people other than frieren have that kind of mana output
@@feeltherose in awe, shook, same thing really.
@@iamTnastiiits not tho, there is a difference between shook n awe, there is a friggin famous quote about it all called shock n awe. Why am i giving an english lesson
@@feeltherose Serie literally said she was frozen from the amount of mana she has. The context equates to being shook. The urban slang for shook means you are shocked, in awe, wowed...its the same thing bud.
Every time Serie bullying Frieren, somehow, Fern always give her a payback in a place of Frieren.
The first payback is this scene, and the second is the laundry magic, lol.
Fern choose laudry magic
Pissed off Serie extend Frieren ban by an additional millennia.
Man, you really got this! Thank you for the observation
Serie:
Also Serie:
Serie is a tsundere
@@nathanfernandes7085Also, none of her current apprentices match up. NONE of her current apprentices were able to detect that Serie was restraining her mana. Fern is special because she is the only human who saw Serie’s full potential
I love that everytime Frieren and Serie are like :3
And Fern is always like 🧍
Fern over here single handily representing the next generation of human Mages. It’s simply beautiful.
Lernen could see Frierens mana fluctuating for a short moment with some luck but couldn't see Series mana fluctuating through out a whole lifetime standing by her side. So when Fern could see it right away it put her in top tier.
The best answer here
However, this was mere luck, since in that moment Frieren was emotional and this is when she shortly loses tight control over it.
Serie never gets emotional, because anything that could surprise her already happened thousands of years ago ;).
Fern was trimmed from early age to work on perfect suppression. So her eye was very trained on little imperfections.
...and btw, you're banned from entering this place for a thousand years.
Fine.
Fern is part of Serie’s School of Magic, literally she is her great grand student of hers, especially Flamme’s branch. As such Fern prefer more “modern” approach of magic taught by Frieren rather than “classical” approach by this millennia old sage. Thus she asked for laundry spell,LOL.
It's not a matter of ''modern'' vs ''classical''. It's a matter of peaceful mages vs battle mages. Serie is a battle mage who thinks every spells that aren't useful in battle are useless. Frieren and Fern are peaceful mages. Fern quite literally has never even learned any offensive magic outside of Zoltraak, every other spells that she's ever learned have peaceful applications.
@@giantWarioSo its like Competitive Player vs HaveFun Player type
It's not that deep bro Fern is just attached to Frieren. Fern is a human, not an elf. She ain't weighing between classical or modern. Humans don't put a lot of emphasis on their far future. Getting to "greater heights" simply was never her goal.
@@giantWarioYeah, if anything, the laundry spell would be classical, as it would fall into the category of "folk magic" (like capturing birds or bird-like creatures so long as you can get really close) that Frieren likes to collect. Yet Frieren helped study and develop Zoltraak after the Demon King's defeat, so new vs. old magic means nothing to her. It's the application and purpose of magic, not the origin, that Frieren and Serie don't see eye-to-eye on.
@@giantWario Fern is absolutelly a battle mage - a duelling specialist to be exact, sacrificing wide range of versatile spells for absolute mastery of Zoltraak and modern defensive barriers combined with mana control and detection.
Learning some random combat spells would make her WEAKER, therefore she doesnt need them and chooses a useful utility spell that will give her more time to work on actually beneficial skills.
that small smile has been burned into my brain, this anime needs to get more love
The manga panel showed half her face. She had a wide smile with wide eyes.
It's topping all the rankings, how can you show it more ove than it already has ?
Clothes cleaning magic is useful in life and could save a lot of time either for travellers or dwellers
It wasn’t until this episode that it finally dawned on me that Fern was the MC of this anime all along, not Freiren…
Then in near future there's the prequel "Himmel, the journey begins" where the MC is freiren not himmel, lol
This some zelda type shit LOL
"Era of Human"... hope we could see Starks adventure after there journey.
I love how conflicting of a character Serie is.
She sees no value in "worthless" magic, but she knows all of them.
She gets annoyed at her students' choice of favorite spells, but never forgets them.
She is one of the most knowledgeable beings in Frieren, but is emotionally immature.
Serie is a tsundere ... a magic tsundere.
Serie reminds me a lot of my colleges teachers. Most of them are doctors from prestigious colleges around the world but always prepared to be bad, selfish and arrogant people with anyone, including their our colleagues. Well they're all immature.
Knowledge isn't be the same as good in general.
It sound most like she doesn't know how to deal with her feelings. She acts for fully by the logic when there are things that logic can't explain. Emotions can't be comprehended by logic
"Worse she can say is no"
*Her
its fluctuating shows serie also did suppress her mana, even though she "mock" that way of fighting demon
how much mana did she has???
@@anomolisagag2270it gets shown a little bit after this scene when Serie finishes talking with Lernen
To put things in perspective that is far simpler, imagine Fern has like 230 IQ but stop learning at grade 12 to enjoy her career, only Frieren realizes this because she has raised/taught Fern since she was a kid, the conversation between Serie and Frieren is basically:
"I know you will fail her because she is only grade 12" - said Frieren - "But she will impress you"
"Not really, she is just like all other students" - Thought Serie - "Wait, are you solving one of those math problem for professors?" * Grinds * - "Become my student Fern, and you will be smarter than ALL Scholars out there"
Fern choosing QoL rather than Power Buff Bonuses.
Serie: I'm not foolish enough to overlook a promising mage
Also Serie: I know your top two in the verse Frieren, And my best students best student, but not only do you fail, your banned for 1000 years!
Serie wants the shroom but the shroom belongs to Frieren the Rock 😅
I have the idea that she refused because she doesnt wanna do the chores she do with frieren
Nice edit
Just try to pretend calm and say you see mana fluctuation then you will simply get a pass. Serie is easy to be fooled.🤣
Bro watch the show. She can see everything within hundreds of miles psychically, and read people's minds. She's damn near omnipotent.
@@bradthunderpants3283 Read people's mind? Were you watching X-Men? Thats a different show.🤣
Serie is very limieted that she can't even save the people that were turned into gold in the manga.
@@rena4050She's maintaining the Balance
Tell me you dont understand the whole story without telling me that you dont understand the whole story 😂😂😂
@@MudMud-ui9mf You think Serie can mind reading? People truly over thinking nowadays like they are the author.🤣
Fern: "Whether she coached me or not, I wanted her to."
Anyone know the song at the end?
It is called "Knife to the Throat" from the Frieren OST.
So, a smile like thar appear in another anime, can u help me to remember which is?
Serie has same seiyuu as reg
Her intuition must not be THAT good, considering just about every judgement she tried to make on the two was wrong.
ゼーリエのキャラも声も好きだけど、フェルン良いよね…😊
こういう、衣服の音好きなんだよね
Serie goes barefoot because she is tired of how fast shoes wear out👣
Hearing Kirua's voice perturbes me xd. I prefer english voice. I mean, RECENTLY, i started watching most anime in dub, idk why
the quality of eng dubs in anime has become better now.👍
Yeah dungeon meshi dub is pretty good
My guess is, the VA is playing boys sounds all the time, so it sticks into your mind. I actually like her mature voice given to possibly the oldest creature on of this universe.
sakamoto
Fern has more potential than Serie its so evident here, even she accepts it. The fools in the comment section.
Serie is Legendary
Frieren is a Warrior
Fern has plenty of potential, no doubt about it. She could very likely become the most powerful human mage of her generation. But you must have backflipped off of your rocker and landed in the middle of a summer picnic if you actually believe that she could potentially surpass Serie someday. Not even Flamme managed to surpass Serie. Let’s be guided now.
Also, this is nothing more than a fan theory that has something of a hint in the anime/manga, but it’s very likely that the person who mentored Serie was none other than the Goddess of Creation that is mentioned multiple times in the story. It is stated that Serie is the closest being in the Freiren universe to the Goddess. The idea of Serie being her student doesn’t seem too far fetched.
A human mage surpassing Serie just doesn’t sound plausible.
@@angelchavez4245 you got more likes then the actual comment
@@frosty98-t9h yeah it's called ''ratio'' and that's because he is most definitely right.
@@Depressed_until_dead lol someone replied after 2 month
weird edit...
It’s elf killua
Allat for that spell..
the editing is terrible jesus, just show me the scene
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nah She'd win
Yes killua
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Jesus would you stop jumping around. So annoying
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Serie's VA is the reason i'm not watching this, how is she supposed to have this old mature voice while she's supposed to be some kind of forever child ?
Goofy ass reason lmao you're missing out on peak. Also she's not a forever-child. She's an elf like Frieren. She's a few thousand years old, so she must be around 35 in human years, who knows.
@@A_zafirov Few thousand years old and still like a goddamn child that's what OP's implying. Elves in Frieren are so OP they can live thousands of years and there's no learning cap. Yeah they got slaughtered by demons but that doesn't disqualify them from being broken.
By being an elf? Frieren voice actor is literally the child from spy family, elfs just age extremely slowly and some are basically immortal
@@alilweeb7684if the VA can do a child voice then she did an even worst job than I anticipated then.
Tf are you on about. None of the elves have a “child” voice. Serie is described as acting like a child and speaking like one about her wants and goals, not that she sounds like one
The art of japanese voice, english dub always ruin every anime...
Only english talker thinks it is good, for non english, your language is stoic, bland, merely have impression, just overall trash. When you guys said "it's better!!" Trust me, every non english speaker disagree.
My goodness, we are so fortunate you were willing to use our barbaric tongue to impart your enlightened wisdom.
It’s not better or worse. I understand English. I don’t understand Japanese. You can say it’s better all you like, but I’ll have to read subtitles in English to understand as it’s all gibberish to me otherwise. I do not have the time to learn an entire language just to understand audio from a television show. So. Obviously. I prefer to watch in my language.
But thanks for dropping by to let us know how superior you are.
@@Elysiumlost not willing, but forced to be exact. If i use my own or other country language, english speaker who only understand english will not understand.
Bro, chill.
English VA sounded strange just the same way you watch any American film in Japanese (the famous Thor: Ragnarok "Get Help" Japanese DUB is the perfect example). And historically speaking, English VA is nowhere near as organized as Japanese VA agencies. In fact, in the early days of English Dub, they simply just find "famous" English-speaking actors to do the VO.
And if you know how to speak multiple languages, you should know the translation is also a big hurdle. You can translate and it would READ okay, but when you SAY IT, you need to significantly tweak it due to speech pattern, grammar, language/user preferences.
lol english doesnt ruin anything. it's a language. It's not like there's some special aspect to japanese anymore than german, russian, spanish. You have a preference, nothing more. There are english dubs where it's obvious the english VAs far outstrip the originals in acting skill for example
@@dingzhuxi you're talking about the english dubs of 30 years ago, not today.