Strangely there is no park assist in mazda like a vw or Mercedes or many other cars where steering automatically steers for normal parking and even for parallel parking
@@viewsonvehicles I wonder why they decided to do it that way. I was seriously contemplating PHEV GT trim, however without CTS, it’s a harder sell for me.
oncerning the PHEV vs Inline 6; Put them side by side with a PHEV full charge in EV mode. In 25 miles, the PHEV will use 0 gas but the battery will be depleted. The inline-6 gets 25 mpg combined so it will have used 1 gallon of gas. Any further driving and both the PHEV and inline-6 will operate on ICE at 25 mpg combined. I just filled up at $3,27 per gallon. The 17.8 Kwh battery only uses 80% but with charging inefficiencies it would take ~ 15 Kw to fully charge. Based on my electric rate, taxes, fees, I pay 0.20 cents per Kw ( most areas pay more) or $3.20 to fully charge the PHEV battery. There are many reasons to buy an EV or PHEV but in this case, saving money is not one of them.
@@ibz.a Same thing to me. CTS is not available even for the PHEV GT (In Canada), and I am thinking to cancel my order now. I have a 2021 Subaru Crosstrek at an MSRP about 28k CAD, but lane centering assist comes as standard and makes my highway driving much easier.
can you bypass the start/stop feature and if so how does the ICE continue to run if it has no torque converter? Also does it have an electric heat pump?
Yes. Mazda calls it i-stop and there's a button to shut the system off to the left of the steering wheel. There's is a wet clutch pack in lieu of the torque converter to disconnect the engine from the drive wheels. I do not know about the heat pump, but I doubt it.
@@viewsonvehicles If you bypass the start/stop, the ICE keeps running and the wet clutch pack opens when you stop. So when you let up off the brake and depress the gas, the wet clutch pack closes? Without a torque converter to take up the shock, wouldn't that be like dumping the clutch in a manual transmission? And wouldn't that result in clutch pack wear every time you stop and then start? I can understand how that system could work but not how it works without shuttering starts and clutch pack wear.
Wet-clutch packs are bathed in oil not too dissimilar to torque converters, so while not quite as smooth, they do not wear (that's how PDK equipped Porsches can repeat epic launch control launches without worry). Second, all CX-90s have electric drive motors as part of the powertrain. And I presume that they help smoothly launch the CX-90 from zero speed and then the wet-clutch couples to the engine. Regardless of the exact method used, in my experience with the car, it felt fine during stop and go traffic. No issues.
@@viewsonvehicles I have been able to find detailed information on how the CX-90 ICE/electric motor/ 8 speed multi-cultch automatic works in different scenarios. The only logical operation I can think of is as you say, the electric motor provides motive force below a certain mph, say 5 mph. Since an electric motor is completely variable, it would allow smooth operation of any speed from 0 to 5 mph and since it is also spinning the engine, auto start would also be seamless. The only downfall to this would be the 0.3 Kwh capacity of the mild hybrid. If you are stuck in stop and go traffic for any length of time, the battery would deplete and than what happens? Also that would mean start/stop could not be bypassed. A torque converter is a fluid coupling and it is not like a multi-clutch wet clutch which is a hard direct coupling when closed. Mazda specifically says that their transmission is not a DCT. Maybe they mean it is a MCT (same difference) , in any case, an automatic trans that has uses clutches in place of a torque converter is a DCT or MCT. These transmissions are essentially manual transmissions that automatically shift faster than any human ever could but still have the issue with clutch wear. That Mazda transmission is very narrow and that means small diameter clutches. Manual transmission clutches are the large diameter of a torque converter so I would not expect a multi wet clutch system to last any longer than a larger dry clutch. Hopefully, some one will eventually provide specific details. Concerning the PHEV vs Inline 6; Put them side by side with a PHEV full charge in EV mode. In 25 miles, the PHEV will use 0 gas but the battery will be depleted. The inline-6 gets 25 mpg combined so it will have used 1 gallon of gas. Any further driving and both the PHEV and inline-6 will operate on ICE at 25 mpg combined. I just filled up at $3,27 per gallon. The 17.8 Kwh battery only uses 80% but with charging inefficiencies it would take ~ 15 Kw to fully charge. Based on my electric rate, taxes, fees, I pay 0.20 cents per Kw ( most areas pay more) or $3.20 to fully charge the PHEV battery. There are many reasons to buy an EV or PHEV but in this case, saving money is not one of them.
@@viewsonvehicles Oh, also, it’s become such a huge problem, car reviewers are invited to talk about it sometimes versus always assuming everyone is a giant. Mazda seats go *just* high enough. VW is good. Toyota depends on model. Honda is an absolute no go across the board. Etc.
@@katiecannon8186 That's really interesting. For me personally, it's hard to judge. I'm just under six feet tall and would have a hard time judging that. But I really appreciate you pointing it out.
Line assist is not available on the PHEV . So disappointing
Strangely there is no park assist in mazda like a vw or Mercedes or many other cars where steering automatically steers for normal parking and even for parallel parking
Cruise & Traffic Support (CTS), is that not available on the PHEV models at all?
Yeah, unfortunately, it's available on all three 3.3 Turbo S CX-90s, but neither of the other two powertrains, including PHEV.
@@viewsonvehicles I wonder why they decided to do it that way. I was seriously contemplating PHEV GT trim, however without CTS, it’s a harder sell for me.
@@ibz.a I agree.
oncerning the PHEV vs Inline 6; Put them side by side with a PHEV full charge in EV mode. In 25 miles, the PHEV will use 0 gas but the battery will be depleted. The inline-6 gets 25 mpg combined so it will have used 1 gallon of gas. Any further driving and both the PHEV and inline-6 will operate on ICE at 25 mpg combined.
I just filled up at $3,27 per gallon.
The 17.8 Kwh battery only uses 80% but with charging inefficiencies it would take ~ 15 Kw to fully charge. Based on my electric rate, taxes, fees, I pay 0.20 cents per Kw ( most areas pay more) or $3.20 to fully charge the PHEV battery. There are many reasons to buy an EV or PHEV but in this case, saving money is not one of them.
@@ibz.a Same thing to me. CTS is not available even for the PHEV GT (In Canada), and I am thinking to cancel my order now. I have a 2021 Subaru Crosstrek at an MSRP about 28k CAD, but lane centering assist comes as standard and makes my highway driving much easier.
ah, he is the guy decided not to put a touch screen in the top model in Mazda's lineup CX-90.
there is a touchscreen, it works by default in android auto and apple car play
@@radug.9896 not in Canada for phev model
can you bypass the start/stop feature and if so how does the ICE continue to run if it has no torque converter? Also does it have an electric heat pump?
Yes. Mazda calls it i-stop and there's a button to shut the system off to the left of the steering wheel. There's is a wet clutch pack in lieu of the torque converter to disconnect the engine from the drive wheels. I do not know about the heat pump, but I doubt it.
@@viewsonvehicles If you bypass the start/stop, the ICE keeps running and the wet clutch pack opens when you stop. So when you let up off the brake and depress the gas, the wet clutch pack closes? Without a torque converter to take up the shock, wouldn't that be like dumping the clutch in a manual transmission? And wouldn't that result in clutch pack wear every time you stop and then start?
I can understand how that system could work but not how it works without shuttering starts and clutch pack wear.
Wet-clutch packs are bathed in oil not too dissimilar to torque converters, so while not quite as smooth, they do not wear (that's how PDK equipped Porsches can repeat epic launch control launches without worry). Second, all CX-90s have electric drive motors as part of the powertrain. And I presume that they help smoothly launch the CX-90 from zero speed and then the wet-clutch couples to the engine. Regardless of the exact method used, in my experience with the car, it felt fine during stop and go traffic. No issues.
@@viewsonvehicles I have been able to find detailed information on how the CX-90 ICE/electric motor/ 8 speed multi-cultch automatic works in different scenarios.
The only logical operation I can think of is as you say, the electric motor provides motive force below a certain mph, say 5 mph. Since an electric motor is completely variable, it would allow smooth operation of any speed from 0 to 5 mph and since it is also spinning the engine, auto start would also be seamless. The only downfall to this would be the 0.3 Kwh capacity of the mild hybrid. If you are stuck in stop and go traffic for any length of time, the battery would deplete and than what happens? Also that would mean start/stop could not be bypassed.
A torque converter is a fluid coupling and it is not like a multi-clutch wet clutch which is a hard direct coupling when closed. Mazda specifically says that their transmission is not a DCT. Maybe they mean it is a MCT (same difference) , in any case, an automatic trans that has uses clutches in place of a torque converter is a DCT or MCT. These transmissions are essentially manual transmissions that automatically shift faster than any human ever could but still have the issue with clutch wear. That Mazda transmission is very narrow and that means small diameter clutches. Manual transmission clutches are the large diameter of a torque converter so I would not expect a multi wet clutch system to last any longer than a larger dry clutch.
Hopefully, some one will eventually provide specific details.
Concerning the PHEV vs Inline 6; Put them side by side with a PHEV full charge in EV mode. In 25 miles, the PHEV will use 0 gas but the battery will be depleted. The inline-6 gets 25 mpg combined so it will have used 1 gallon of gas. Any further driving and both the PHEV and inline-6 will operate on ICE at 25 mpg combined.
I just filled up at $3,27 per gallon.
The 17.8 Kwh battery only uses 80% but with charging inefficiencies it would take ~ 15 Kw to fully charge. Based on my electric rate, taxes, fees, I pay 0.20 cents per Kw ( most areas pay more) or $3.20 to fully charge the PHEV battery. There are many reasons to buy an EV or PHEV but in this case, saving money is not one of them.
Can you please tell us if Mazda CX 90 phev have the personalization option or just turbo s?
I believe the top trim PHEV does, but I am using months old memory to answer.
I have a Phev and I dont have the vehicle personalization@@viewsonvehicles
@@gogglespgapaisano9418 which trim level? If I remember correctly, it’s only on the top trim PHEV
Sorry I failed to mention, i just took delivery last week of my CX-90 GT Phev@@viewsonvehicles
I’m 5 feet tall. Few cars support short people anymore. The seats don’t go high enough 😳
That's a shame. I wish they went higher for you.
@@viewsonvehicles It was one factor for me buying a GTI. Otherwise, there’s always an adult booster seat - lol.
@@viewsonvehicles Oh, also, it’s become such a huge problem, car reviewers are invited to talk about it sometimes versus always assuming everyone is a giant. Mazda seats go *just* high enough. VW is good. Toyota depends on model. Honda is an absolute no go across the board. Etc.
@@katiecannon8186 That's really interesting. For me personally, it's hard to judge. I'm just under six feet tall and would have a hard time judging that. But I really appreciate you pointing it out.
Niiiiice
Huh? So it's a cruise control then.. lol