The Bad Batch - Why Cut's Chip Didn't Activate
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- Why didn't Cut Lawquane's chip activate during Order 66? How do the chips work, and is it possible for a clone to overcome the chip's programming on their own? That's what we're exploring today!
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The very fact that Cut was independent enough to desert in the first place may be a sign that his chip was simply defective to start with.
That's exactly what I have been saying for a while, his desertion was probably only possible because the chip was inactive/malfunctioned, allowing Cut to express atypical behaviour in comparison to the rest of the clones. It would also make sense considering his distaste for the Empire, something that the inhibitor chips also wouldn't allow.
@@Daniel_Paterson The Umbaran arc shows that regular clones are capable of independence and a refusal to carry out orders.
Still agree that his chip was probably broken, though since no other clones refuse to take part in the war from the beginning.
@@nathandts3401 arent the Umbara clones generally trained for independance though? From what I think now seems to be the case, is that the order 66 protocol enhances a clones will to follow orders, more in line with how crosshair was affected. Biggest problem however is that Jesse has shown a lot of independence in for example the Umbara arc, while he was still immediately affected by his chip. What I feel like the Bad Batch series is trying to establish that the chips are more in line with extra safeguaring for following orders, ala what the kaminoans said, instead of making it a purely jedi killing device, more in line with loyalty in clones and how legends tackled the order 66 scenario.
@@nathandts3401 Those clones are from the 501st, like Rex. So again they were "brought up" by Anakin to be outside the box thinkers
I think you are spot on with this, the fact that he deserted proved that his conditioning on Kamino was defective and became so independent that the chip was useless.
In the Vader Comic on Mon Cala when Vader and the Inquisitors were hunting down Jedi, Ferren Barr activated the chips in Vader’s purge troopers who were from one of the last batches of clones, this causes them to turn on Inquisitors and Barr alike, this would suggest that the command is required for it to activate. However, this is all from a comic and they could retcon or change that if they want
I hate that you even had to include that caveat. I sincerely hope they don't pull "a Filoni" on the Darth Vader comics. They were excellent!!
It might be worth noting that Ferren Barr also seemed to have used the Force when he said that, so maybe he actually force-switched the chips on or something.
Well, it proves that the trigger words are one method to activate the chips. There could still be a backup method in addition to that.
@@Compucles as well as the fact it doesn't have to be Palpatine giving the command, seemingly anyone could do it
I think Cut Lawquane's chip was inactive from before Geonosis, which allowed him to desert the Republic. This would also explain his distasteful feelings towards the Republic, Clone Wars, and Galactic Empire seeing as Order 66 wasn't the only purpose of the chip, but to also ensure loyalty to Palpatine and the Sith.
My new headcanon is that Tup's chip activated because someone told him to order 66 pizzas for the whole squad for the battle's afterparty.
I can get behind this
Isn’t that Yarael Poof’s job though?
@@joemullarkey5719 "They didn’t have calamari pizza because Mon Calamari are people and I did not know that."
@@optillian4182 “*gasp* Is everyone on the council dead? I must hurry then. My time is short.”
@@joemullarkey5719 "HeY eVeRyOnE, I’m YoDa! TaLk WeIrD i Do. FeAr lEaDs To AnGeR aNd AnGeR lEaDs To never letting anyone else talk!"
I think it’s like how the winter soldier in the mcu needs to be activated with a voice line , same with the clones
I hope we get to see clone commandos in bad batch at some point and see how they coped with order 66
I REALLY hope they import a few things from the old Karen Travis novels. It makes sense clone commandos can resist the compulsion.
@@CardCaptorDeadpool well….
Tangentially related thought I have always had: The command "Execute Order 66" is not telling the Troopers to kill the Jedi. Order 66 is itself the flipping of the switch on their chips, and it's that switch is what tells them to kill the Jedi (and also to completely shift their loyalties from the Republic to the Empire). Order 66 is "activate the chip" not "kill the Jedi".
The clones dont actively activate their chip though
@@user-fu7zf4ck9z No, but the Kaminoans might.
Put another way, "Execute Order 66" (as expressed from Palpatine or another ranking officer) tells the chip to turn itself on, and the clone's brain then follows the chip's effects.
"Alexa, kill the Jedi."
Well that's technically not true. The clones have a ton of different orders that are basically protocols. Order 66 is in case the Jedi turn on the rebpublic, and order 67(I believe) is in case the chancellor does the same. Of course, I don't think order 67 has anything to do with the chips, but still, their are I the order. Hell, in legends, their was order 37, which was super fucked up. Basically the execution of civilians to draw out a target.
I assume the command still needs to be heard. No precedent for a cross-galaxy signal being sent out so I don't see how the Kaminoans would just turn on all the chips.
Exactly.
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Agree, if he heard a recording of Palps executing the Order, I think he'd turn
It was interesting to me that with the exception of Crosshair, most of the Bad Batch had no idea what Order 66 even was. This seems to tell us that the entire mission profile of the assignment was stored in the chips. None of the clones were ever briefed on Order 66 or had it explained to them why such a contingency may be necessary. Attack of the Clones shows a Kaminoan explaining to Obi Wan that the Clones were conditioned to never disobey orders, but clearly, it goes deeper than that; the chips could potentially be used to send Clones any kind of information or intel.
Agreed! It was amusing to see Hunter & Co trying to figure out what "Order 66" meant, but I think you're right - the fact they didn't instantly know suggests the mission information was also encoded in the chip.
I seem to remember, either from a Wookiepedia article or from one of the Lost Missions, where they had Fives (or was it Tupp? Somebody help me out) refering to it as "The voice in our nightmares" - nightmares of betraying and murdering those they had fought beside for so long. That would suggest they were aware of the order, but only on a deep, subconscious level
I know what Alex means when he says “see some familiar faces” but my immediate first thought was “they’re clones, they all have the same face!”
Dave Filoni: *sees this video*
Also Dave Filoni: *quickly scribbling notes*
To your "Flip a switch" hypothesis: it wouldn't make a substantial enough difference.
1-The signal would be broadcast on the same communications network otherwise they would have to create a new network specifically for that signal.
2-Needing Palpatine's voice for the command give him total control over the Clone command structure. If the Kaminoans could flip the switch that would be a critical area of control out of Palpatine's reach and he would not allow that.
3-All clones active in the GAR have constant access to the communications network and can be reached at anytime. Those that don't are presumably deserters and are of no use to Palpatine anyway.
It is both more practical and gives Palpatine greater control if he were to just send his signal on repeat over the GAR communications network to activate the chips as seen on The Bad Batch.
I don't know about Cut, but I always assumed that Wolfe and Gregor's chips were both damaged as a result of traumatic head injuries. The chip also appears to regulate a clone's submissiveness and willingness to follow orders, as well as activate Order 66.. If Cut's chip was damaged on Geonosis, it could help explain why he was willing to desert in the first place.
I hope Wolffe's chip didn't work so we get to see him be like "wtf" and deal with his comrades gunning down his bro Plo
@@slashinswingin4369 We need this untold story to be told!
I think his chip probably just didn't activate since he was listed as KIA with the rest of his unit.
I truly thought you had to hear the words, and Palpatine sent it out on a certain wave which was always on in the helmets.
I’m pretty sure that how it worked so it make sense cut wouldn’t do it since he’s literally in no position to hear it
Order 66 is like The Activation Code for Bucky both incidentally both overcame those literal Trigger words
I also remember them saying when CW started that Rex was less modified than other clones which is why he duel wields pistols like Jango. I wonder if that is also why he could resist the chip for a bit.
I still feel like “execute order 66” is the key phrase - not just “order 66.” That’s how it worked on Mon Cala, against the inquisitors in the Vader Comic. It didn’t HAVE to come from Sidious, but the phrase was repeated by captains and commanders to their squads throughout the army.
Like we saw the other clones on Ashoka’s cruiser hear the order in their helmet comms before they acted.
I think it’s also very likely that many clones, overtime, would resist the programming, like Grey.
One area where I think the Bad Batch's pilot episode messed up is by telling us that the clone radio channels keep repeating "Execute Order 66" (Wrecker and Tech mention that), but not showing it. Since people seem to have been confused about this for a long time (even though, for example, The Clone Wars's finale showed the non-Rex troopers around Ahsoka getting a radio call).
Palpatine: Then we shall have peace.
Vader: So what now?
Palpatine: I have got a long list of calls so I will see you in the morning...
To be fair, I would have broken my programming too when I first laid eyes on Su given the way she used to dress.
That may or may not be a euphemism.
The Jedi ferren Barr activated order 66 by saying the words to new clones, I think the words “excute order 66” or an accidental activation
I think it didn't activate simply because he was nowhere near a military frequency when the order was issued.
Which could turn into a really nasty plot twist later if he's discovered and has his chip activated.
I always used to thought that early clone, one that fought at battle of geonosis didn't have the chip and were slowly killed off over the course of the war and replace with one that have it.
That's a neat idea but I don't think that's true if you take into account that Palpatine had all that stuff planned from the beginning. And I kind of doubt that all the first gen clones died before Order 66.
To your point about Palpatine calling up each clone commander to issue the order, my assumption was always that it was simply issued over an "emergency" channel that overrides all clone comms.
Now I just picture Anakin standing there awkwardly as palpatine calls every individual clone commander in the entire army.
So two things here
I don't think Palpatine talked to each clone commander individually, for one thing that would give a lot of Jedi more preperation time. But I think he did talk to all the Clone commanders. When we see him talk to Cody we hear Cody's name on Cody's side of the conversation... I think Palpatine probably had an auto complete. "I'm Krusty the Clown and this is my best friend >Darth Sidious
I like the idea that Cut's chip was defective, but in the opposite sense to Tupp's. We know that the inhibitor chips do cause the clones to improve their general obedience as well as to orders like 66, so the reason he deserted could have been partly due to his not working
What i think is that if somebody simply says, “execute order 66” it could happen. Like if somebody said ramdomly. “Oh they didn’t execute order 66” he’ll just fly off and hunt Jedi
I think it has to be in the context of an order from a superior - otherwise there would have been the risk that it was activated before the time was right, and then the jedi would have found out about it, like what nearly happened when Tup's chip malfunctioned.
It's true that Palpatine didn't contact each Clone Commander individually and give the order. From what I understand, after he contacted Commander Cody first and gave the order (Palpatine specifically wanted Obi-Wan taken off the board first), Palpatine basically recorded the part of the transmission where he says "Execute Order 66." and sent the recording out to the rest of the Clones Commanders simultaneously.
The order then likely gets repeated through the Clones' comms ensuring that every Clone hears the command in the Palpatine's voice.
We have seen Clones go directly against their programming before, like Slick.
I think there were just a percentage of Clones that were defective enough for their chips to not be functioning properly.
I think the chip only triggers when receiving the order from a higher rank figure. So through comlink would be the local commanders broadcasting the order.
Commanders themselves received the order from Palpatine, maybe from other admirals working under him (like Tarkin etc).
Since Cut is a deserter, and he doesn't follow hierarchy anymore, maybe it cannot active at all (though unlikely if he received it from palpatine himself since he's likely added as the supreme authority figure in the chip) or at least resist it.
In the Darth Vader comic we had seen a jedi use the mind trick on clones to trigger Order 66 by making them briefly think he was Palpatine giving the order, and it worked.
2:03 Oof, that burn...
Respectfully, Alex... 'Palpatine' wouldn't have to make individual calls to every clone trooper or clone commander... it could all be done simultaneously with a "send this hologram to every clone comlink" function (the group email of the galaxy far, far away). Surely this is within their technical capability. 😊
Agreed
I think it’s simple. The order came through their comm chatter, Cut was never given the order thus he didn’t execute it.
I dont know why anyone had this question. Why would a clone not in the clone army anymore recieve order 66?
In the first episode tech said all channels were repeating one order only, order 66. Cut didn't hear it so the chip never activated. I dont think there was some kind of mass broadcast across the galaxy to activate chips. It's triggered by hearing the order. Doesnt have to be from palpatine himself but just hear the order.
Hear’s how I see it
You hear the order, you carry out the order
You don’t hear the order, you don’t carry out the order
Simple as that
Totally. Palpy made a call, he didn't tap a switch.
I would wager that Palpatine called up specific clones that were particularly important like Cody, Rex, and any clone serving under a council member. For the others he probably just sent a recording
I’ve always assumed that as soon as a clone commander hears “Execute Order 66” in Palps’s voice the inhibitor chip in his head will send out a single to all other clone chips within a radius and the radius moves with the commander as a way of making sure all clones fall under the order. So when Commander Neyo got the order Cut was too far away and the signal never reached him.
I think they have to hear the order, and that Palpatine broadcast the order simultaneously to all clones who were responding to their coms. And I think the reason we see Palpatine make a personal call is that he actually made the generic call to all but a few important clones who he contacted personally first, and those important clones are the ones we see.
1:48 Since the chips are organic, I don't think that they could receive a signal from a different planet. Hearing the order through the coms of the helmet seems to be a much simpler and practical solution.
It could depend on what the chips actually do. The shows have been hinting that maybe Order 66 isn’t the only thing they do since they were introduced, and even in the case of Fives we see how he’s a little more aggressive even than he was before it was removed. Nala Se even says as much, how it’s designed to make them less aggressive, which could actually not be a total lie-it’s just not all they do.
The chips could just be what help the clones be such disciplined soldiers in the first place, and Order 66 is simply a dormant command that causes it to go into overdrive.
Hence the "Good soldiers follow orders" line
i like to thank that cut’s chip was initially malfunctioning because of his very early rebellious/independent ideas. maybe he never got the following orders thing because the chip wasn’t telling him to. so he sort of becomes equal to jango and boba.
in Cut’s episode in clone wars he mentions clones being programmed, maybe he knew about chip and took care of it already
Shot in the dark: He never got a direct order from a commanding officer.
Thank you someone who finally makes sense
I don't see why people are so confused by this. Its clearly the answer just based on what we've seen so far around the issuing of Order 66.
Palpatine sends out the order to the commanders and it gets broadcasted among Clone comms to trigger everyone else. We see this happening to the Clones around Rex in the final Clone Wars episodes. We hear Wrecker and Tech say as much in the 1st episode of Bad Batch.
Cut has no comms gear any more... so Cut never received the order.
I think it's because they need to hear "execute order 66". In the ROTS novel, it says palpatine contacted a few clones individually then sent out a mass message
Perhaps he felt the clone commanders most loyal to their Jedi generals could use a Force boost to make sure the order was followed. (Idk, I haven't read the book, I'm just thinking out loud)
truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view
I think cut may actually be a "mutated" clone - just not one that gained special abilities but just the "flaw" of not liking to fight and rather desert.
About Cut: I also presume that, after not being activated initially, he then had Rex take out / deactivate his chip entirely - just in case - when he visited (he mentions Rex showing up at some point before the Bad Batch did in the episode).
"Rex was here yesterday" was the line, I think
maybe we might see tarkin ordering the other clones to kill bad batch and their supporter clones or something. maybe while this happens omega grows older and hunter might tell her to run but she stays and some clones who support from the empire side might just ensure that she is safe and sound. then she might end up helping the rebellion or something.
Love the idea that it's an auditory trigger. Makes sense.
To address one of the questions you posed, one of the main themes of SW is no one is beyond redemption.
Let's just sum it up to some chips being defective. It happens. :D
Even Rex was overwhelmed by the chip he was exceptional only in that he succeeded in giving Ahsoka clues before trying to kill her. Ahsoka had to knock him out and perform surgery on him before he stopped trying to kill her. Most Clones are going to fall into this catagory. They might be able to break free but not immediately nor easily.
Cut was for all intents and purposes a defective clone, I don't think his chip works at all, despite the Kaminoans best efforts he did not take to the indoctrination. There might be others like him but not many.
Echo is literally brain damaged, the mind machine interface the Techno Union turn him into probably fried the chip without the Union noticing it. Any Clone that has survived serious head trauma or brain injury might be like Echo, Gregor might actually fit here.
Clone force 99 is different and I think Tech is right. Crosshair was a jerk but that's not what made him give into the chip, it was that although his mind was divergent from a Reg, it wasn't by much. All the others have more divergent minds from the Reg standard than Crosshair, so it didn't work or would have to be modified to do more than just give them nagging unease and a headache.
Omega is a Clone, but might not be a Jango clone, or only a a partial Jango clone. I think more of her genetic material than just a Y chromosome came from a different donor. She might not even have a chip or not one programmed the same way.
cody is the only one we see palps address specifically. I imagine because he's extremely petty, this was a special "screw you" call. every other call he just says "execute order 66" so I imagine its like a group chat
Yeah, I think Cut's case is as simple as - he's a deserter, so he's staying away from technology that could lead him to be discovered, meaning nobody would call him to give the order. I don't think Sidious or the Kaminoans have any master switch except maaaaybe the possibility of Sidious using the force to activate the chips, but you'd need the right commands for it to work (so basically, you could think of it as a mass mind trick). Basically, not crazy about the idea that you can simply overcome the chip through will alone, because the chips overriding free will is literally what they're designed to do. See my comment on Rex below. I think you'd have to do a lot to reach out to a clone that's been activated under the order. I also don't think Cut's chip was malfunctioning like some said, because I feel like it's more powerful if he is just a normal clone who deserted, instead of having a biological reason behind his decision.
For Rex, I think it's simply a matter of him knowing about what Fives told him. I think his relationship to Ahsoka and Anakin would've meant nothing if it weren't for Fives, if he got no warning and suspicion, he would've just flipped like the other clones. He could only resist like he did because he knew what was happening to him. In Tup's case, I don't think he needed to hear anything, I think his chip malfunctioning was all there was to it. There was a mention of him disappearing briefly, which is probably what caused the incident that led to the malfunction. In Grey's case, I like to think there's some Force stuff at work, like either enough time has passed for it to not be working at full capacity but I think Caleb's bond with Grey probably manifested in the Force in some way, and Caleb maybe unwittingly used the Force to reach out to Grey (think like Ahsoka using it to find Rex's chip).
I like your explanation, exactly what I was thinking 🤔
Maybe Cut has slight genetic mutations from standard clones. He looks a bit different (his hair looks more brown than black for example and has that grey stripe). Maybe this was enough to make him more independent and defect in the first place, and for order 66 not to register in the same way it didn’t for most of the bad batch
Seems to me that Cut's chip never activated because he isn't a stormtrooper.
I actually think Cut has the highest stakes of any clone in Order 66. Every other clone would lose themselves and turn on their Jedi, but Cut would lose himself and the family and the life that he's worked so hard for
I think this is really convincing, and makes sense, but the way I read it Rex would have executed Order 66 if his chip wasn't removed. He was crying and shaking, but he still would have killed Ahsoka - which is a huge, huge deal. I don't think he could have overcome it if Ahsoka hadn't removed it. Also, Cut, Suu, and the kids are just great I hope they have a nice little farm life.
Agreed! It's clear Rex is resisting with all he has, but it's still not enough
The idea of the free will part would tie into crosshair because he seemed to be the most order following of the group, in most cases he waited for call outs from everyone else
I wonder about Sergeant Slick. Would his chip have activated if he was still in the army by Order 66?
I’m thinking it is as simple as this ... Cut never heard the order. As Tech explains in the first episode, the Palpatine didn’t make individual calls, a general order went out on repeat on Clone communication channels. Any clone using normal clone communicators or who was just near one who was would hear the order at some point that day. Cut was farming. Crosshair just wasn’t mutated enough to resist the order. Tupp’s chip malfunctioned. The ONLY reason Rex resisted the order was because he already knew about the conspiracy and was prepared to have to resist it.
I’d love to think that they can overcome it by they’re own will, but there cases like Jesse that just don’t let me believe it.
Given what he experienced on Umbara and Krell. He though saw Ashoka as another Krell but this time Rex couldn't fully see it like Dogma.
@@memeking7273 that’s probably it, but I think that we’re all overthinking it.
@@Me-zl3ef fair
I’ll be real, the first thing that came to my head, as a reason for Cuts chip not activating and Rex resisting his chip, was severe head trauma
I think the only reason Cut didn't carry out order 66 is because his chip didn't activate. I believe it required the code word for the chip to activate. Of course Palpatine didn't individually call every clone trooper. There was likely a mass message transmitted to the comms in the helmet of most of them. In the case of Tup, yes it did activate without the code word. But, that was only because it malfunctioned.
I do believe it's more complicated than just hearing the words. It is possible, however unlikely, that those words could have been said at some point to a clone simply by chance, as they're not really obscure words. Like Alex mentioned, the act of Palpatine contacting clones is more for the viewer's sake I feel. More likely I think it's the "switch" idea, that someone can press a button and the clones are all basically just droids. Because Cut left after Geonosis, he was probably just presumed to be dead and maybe his chip was simply disconnected from the control. But regardless, each clone's disposition and independence can impact how they handle the order. So it's of course a complicated web of things but the fact that Cut doesn't execute the order doesn't seem strange to me at all.
I think it's a combo of all these points. He was independent enough to resist, he wouldn't have been given the order, though I'm sure he heard it, and there were no Jedi around him to purge. The real question is what happened to Slick? The clone who defected to the separatists in the first season of clone wars. I wonder if he'll show up and will they touch on if he did it didn't take part in it
Crosshair was the original Darktrooper/Shadow Trooper...
Why are so many star wars channels having this discussion? Seems pretty straight forward to me.
Honestly Just hope they give some info on Commander Cody after all this, we already have a idea of some clone who turn there back on the Empire but Cody is one of the few clones we don't know what happened to him.
In Old EU he serves in the Empire.
I don't like that the chips can be overcome by the clone's thinking, that just further devalues Palpatine and his genius plans...
Then again most clones didn't had the ability to think outside the box like the bad batch
I think it's just that over time the order becomes less effective. Standard stuff.
You got it right in the 1st few minutes of this video lol.,,,Its pretty obvious the words are a trigger for order 66. Nowhere was it ever implied there's some switch. The love folks have for the clones are clouding their judgement.
Would be a cool episode in bad batch if his chip gets activated and he rejoins the empire and his family calls the bad batch to get him back
Star Wars is built on hope. It would be deeply disappointing if every clone were a lost cause the moment that the chip is activated. And, as you said, we have evidence against that, even excluding the Batch. I would say that some clones are going to be a lost cause - for example, if they have weak wills or, even worse, want to go along with the chip's orders for some reason - but it would be bad storytelling to make all of them like that.
I wonder how many ARC troopers, if any, had a similar reaction to Crosshair or Rex. I also wonder if and Commandos resisted the order like in legends.
It's also interesting that Kamino was actively developing a way to enhance the signal on Crosshair. Admittedly, Crosshair is a very valuable and talented clone, but he is one man. Perhaps the effort they put into developing a workable amplifier suggests that other clones were beginning to resist the chip
I always thought that it was once one chip was activated it would send a signal to the other chips over the coms and activate theirs also wasn’t explained that the bad batch chips weren’t working properly because of their mutations so that could of caused them not to be effected by it.
He didn't see a Jedi, but I think Rex is proof that willpower is a significant factor.
Side note, please let AZI-3(...) be okay!
I think Cut was most likely listed as killed on Geonosis, if order 66 is activated by flipping a switch they probably wouldn’t even think to switch his chip on, he was probably removed from the system after they marked him as dead
To answer your question at the end, I say neither. If they were a list cause, then Rex would still be screwed.
And yeah, obviously Palpatine didn't call each and every clone. They passed the message along. Could be just the words "Execute Order 66" or it could be Palpatine saying it, either in person, or in a recording. Recordings were established as a thing way back in A New Hope, lol, so the could easily be the answer.
I always assumed given came in the day before that he removed the chip and cut had not heard the order yet - essentially he just showed up and asked to perform surgery on him
Well that's a possibility
Personally I theorize that the Kaminoans are able to remotely deactivate inhibitor chips of clones who are MIA or go AWOL as a means of protecting the secrets of the chip, because if it were to randomly activate in a clone who was not in the army at a random place and a random time, it could cause much bigger issues that they would be liable for but would have no way to monitor, whereas a malfunctioning chip in a clone who is still actively a part of the GAR and therefore under some level of surveillance is a much easier problem to manage
Ah, the Overthinking route. This is Star Wars man, the obvious answer is usually the correct one.
I always assumed that the transmission of Palpatine also carried an activation frequency or signal. Then Cut just would've been out've range of the signal
I straight up just think he didn't have a communications device connected to the frequency. All of the other clones got it through a frequency in their helmets, except probably the ones Palpatine contacted directly
A lot of the comic stuff could still be cannon, just not the exact situation as activation.
Maybe plap just called up commander Cody specifically for some reason or another and for the rest of the clones he just out a net call of execute order 66 over all clone frequencies. That actually gives me an interesting story idea. What if there was a company of clones who happened to have gone dark when the order was issued meaning they never heard it.
I always thought that he called Cody specifically, and probably first, due to Obi Wan. He needed Kenobi out of the picture from the start as if there was anyone who could tempt anakin away from the dark side, it could have been his closest friend and master. Anakin was too caught up in his own 'save padme' narrative that Kenobi's survival didn't make things better but rather worse at the time.
I think Palpatine wants to get rid of the clones for two reasons. Firstly, as you hope they may have a level of independence and strong minded clones that defect represent a substantial threat especially compared to storm troopers. Which leads to my second reason, the less expensive obedient storm troopers in such mass numbers are completely under Palpatine's direct control where as the clone army depends on the trust of the Caminoians.
So yes, I think the clones can overcome their programming given enough time and will power, but removing the chip is the path to true independence.
Maybe it was damaged, defective, he wasn't in the presence of any Jedi and didn't hear the broadcast, lots of reasons could be applied.
Sexy Twi'lek Sniper Lady overrides all previous programming! That is just biology!
I like the idea that Cut completely overcame it too. It makes sense
Would be interesting to see if Vader shows up in this series.
I think it's likely that there is indeed a big red button for order 66, and clones don't have to hear it to do it. And, like you said, I think that Cut is simply too independent for it to work.
There was no communication around him when the order was given
I think Rex is pretty independent and if he can't break it then for sure no regular clone or commander cannot break the chip programming. Only one of course is Cut.
But yeah it would seem clones just need to hear someone say order 66. Seen with the many clones on screen put their hand on their helmet to listen to the comms.
Someone should totally say, "Execute Order 66!" In front of Cut asap.
i think the chips are given to later iterations of troopers and cut didn't have a chip+ he had no contact with the outer worlds+ there was no jedi to be shooten at
What about the clone sergant from Christophis - that traitor who blown up all big guns needed to defend the base?