An unexpected side effect of being a Savagegeese fan is a growing respect for GM, both because of their willingness to communicate info to journalists, and showcase their honest engineering prowess
@@ariescaisip5498 Idiotic propaganda. It's kind of insane how little power a passenger car BEV actually uses. 250 Watt Hour Per Mile is just a crazy industry benchmark. FACTs dictate that is very little amount of energy thus very efficient.
@@ariescaisip5498 EVs are on average 4x as efficient as ICE vehicles. There's definitely lots of arguments in favor of the benefits of having liquid fuel instead of batteries, but there's no arguing that EVs are far more energy efficient, that's just a basic fact.
I honestly couldn't care less about the Hummer but I am amazed at their Product Managers. This was a master class in getting their people on board with thinking differently and thinking bigger. Well done to you two in telling that story!
I was curiously waiting for the Shop segment to see if the trusty old Benpaks could hold up this 9k lb behemoth tank and if the guys would actually stand under the thing while doing the segment. Thankfully looks like they didnt!
They wont even work on it bro. All the good mechanics are working on the occasional ford pickup, toyota or honda when they rarely need work. Thet retire or find a mew career when these things start showing up
You’ve clearly never seen a Hummer demonstration in the mud despite the hundreds of hours of filming of just that on this very website. Y’all are choosing to be ignorant as hell.
I ran the math a while back on this, the energy consumption and range of this while doing severe offroading is equivalent to a fully fueled ICE Ford Bronco carrying an additional 15 gallons of gasoline. I honestly don't think this will have any big issues, you'd be hard-pressed to find a stretch of offroad course in the United States that could actually tax that range to the limit. That said I'm sure somebody will drive this off the edge of black bear pass at some point.
I had an NA and miss it often, but yeah I don't feel comfortable in one anymore around even "normal" SUVs. Now make those SUVs twice as heavy and twice as fast... Yeah, maybe I'll get an ND instead so I can maintain the illusion of not dying instantly in an accident.
like you guys said in the hellcat redeye video, anyone who drives this should probably take some sedatives. 0 to 60 in 3 ish seconds in a behemoth this big will kill somebody.
@@mybro727 the raptor should never have a v6. base f150 can have a v8, why shouldnt the sporty one?! as for compensation, that's definitely all the guys with a lift kit and over sized tires. none of them use it for what those are for
The fact this car weight (with occupants and luggage) is 10,000 pounds is INSANE! If this car crashes into anything less than a mid-size SUV, you will be toast. As SUVs and Trucks are getting bigger they need to update crash test safety standards on how a vehicle impacts other smaller cars during a collision. God forbid this hits a Honda Civic let alone a pedestrian...
This vehicle has been on the market for over a year now. How many Hummer related accidents have you heard of or Hummers that have been involved in a crash? There have been more Tesla related fatalities in one calendar year than there has been Hummer fender benders reported since the vehicle has been in production, yet y’all will deem this to be _the most dangerous_ simply because of it’s capability on and off road, size and mass? Is the Raptor R and TRX trucks exempt from being so dangerous because they carry gallons of flammable gasoline? Sure, that makes complete sense. 🤡
@@mybro727 Dude, there have been less than like 1,000 total deliveries of this thing. By sheer volume of production you SHOULDNT be hearing about wrecks. Tesla has sold almost 2 million cars so obviously you haven't heard of wrecks comparatively. Also, this guy is talking about weight. Tesla's are already insanely heavy. This is NINE THOUSAND pounds. The average weight of cars prior to recent years was like 3k pounds; a proper sports car is usually in the mid 2ks (even some today are). If this thing hits anyone in a compact car or even sedan, they will be dead.
@@mybro727 in physics: force = mass x acceleration. A 4,000 pound full-size Dodge Charger running into you at 70mph will do LESS damage to your car than this 10,000 pound Hummer going 35mph. In other words: Brock Lesnar's jab is going to hurt a LOT more than a haymaker from a 6th grader.
@@seanshong2048 Sir, a “jab” from a 6,00 lb RAM TRX at 70 mph could kill you just as well as a Hummer traveling 70 mph could kill you. The RAM isn’t exactly a 6th grader’s jab and neither is a 2 ton Dodge Charger plowing into you at 70mph. A better analogy is the 6th grader shooting you with the same gun as Brock Lesnar. That’s the part that’s going right over your head, they’re both equally as dangerous under the same circumstances. The Hummer isn’t anymore dangerous than the Charger would be at the hands of the same reckless driver as both vehicles are powerful and heavy. I know this goes completely against your narrative but it is the actual *reality.*
They are slowly ramping back up. The plant was being re-tooled for the Silverado EV production which realistically is their more important product (volume seller).
Damn. Saw one in my area teh other day. Surprisingly looks smaller in person, although I'm used to seeing TRX's and Raptors so that's probably why it didn't seem as gigantic lol
Saw one locally in Nashville this week. No idea if it was a press truck or one of the 2 that were sold. It was gargantuan and did not appeal to me. But to those who desire this, more power to you!
I really find the engineering details in this video super interesting. Should be cool to see these technologies get adapted to “regular” EVs in the next few years. I’m all for EV off-leaders if we can get range and charging times that are comparable to gas 4x4s 😃
They did. The EV1, then 20-30 years later, the Bolt. But they didn't market it. Dealerships hardly carried it, and charged you out the ass if you tried to order it saw it as "the enemy", didn't send their Techs to learn it. Sold it to fleets.
@@NoodlesExtraMSG The EV1, while not perfect, was great for those times - if only they would have kept developing from there GM and the auto industry would have been in a much better place... The Bolt meanwhile is plagued with issues.
@@Jackinacox true, but to their credit, they made good on replacing the LG battery, even for cars that had a ton of miles/ past initial covered period.... even if it took a lawsuit or 2.
- insane and it makes you wonder of insurance companies will make these things impossible to insure unless the owner receives special training in advance? +1 on that IMO..
As someone who works with people who have commercial drivers licenses. I promise you It means absolutely nothing. Also you don't need a CDL untill the gross vehicle weight rating is over 26,000 pounds. 9,000 is not that much. My work truck is 14,000 pounds empty. Also this does not apply to recreational vehicles.
@@autohelix For sure, I know it doesn't meet the minimum for a CDL, however, 9,000 lbs is more than enough if you ask the person who gets in an accident against the guy driving this pig. Gob forbid the other person is in a rational vehicle that weighs much much less. I sure as hell don't want to get mowed down by the latest small penis energy brodozer while driving my mx5.
@@tylertullis6536 Yeah but how is a CDL going to make a difference? The main purpose of a CDL in my opinion is to make sure everything works lights tires and so on. But in reality it is just a way to artificially inflate wages. I wish you could take a CDL test in this thing It would be easiest test in human history.
@@autohelix Oh it sounds like it wouldn't change anything other than maybe limiting how many people buy the hummer. The price already does that though, aren't these things marked up by 50-100% at dealers? Either way, it weighs 2x as much as my first generation Tundra annnd I find that ridiculous.
A friend of mine worked a lot on this. I actually got to go for a ride while it was still in testing. One of the benefits of living in Ann Arbor for 2 years.
@Christine Sommerfeld I cant remember where all we went with it, but I do remember parking on Maynard Street downtown. We went to some bubble tea place on State St. which may no longer be there. This was back in 2021 while it was still very much in the testing phase.
To the manufacturers and their engineers, I give them all A+'s. They are implementing, with success, the whimsical dreams of some bloviating governmental bureaucrat, owned by the Chinese, who is worrying about a crisis that doesn't exist. I could go on for about as long as it takes to charge an electric car, but... Well Done
I hate how the speedometer jumps 15mph at a time during the launch, as though it can't refresh fast enough to accurately display the speed as it increases.
@@junyaiwase 😆It's not about having buyers.... it's about GM's ability to make EVs and sell them without having to constantly recall or stop sale all of them.
@@TheLastMoccasin The problem is a ramp up in manufacturing and a battery issue, supposedly since solved, not a lack of demand Between the pick up and the SUV versions, per GM there are 90,000 reservations.
I'm not a joyless scold about most things other people enjoy, but I despise this truck and truly believe it shouldn't exist. 9000-lb vehicles on public roads shouldn't be rocket ships.
This is an insane truck. I watched the documentary about the development of the new Hummer EV and I walked away from that program thoroughly convinced GM has some of the best engineers in the automotive industry today. The Hummer EV looks fantastic and if I could afford one, I would be in line to get one. Well done GM.
Really appreciate the technical overviews, and particularly for this product. There is a lot to take into account with all these 1st gen EV's, and the speed of that development cycle is definitely one of them. I am really excited to see how 'ultium' progresses in the GMS Sierra and particularly the Silverado EV.
I'm in the list for the silverado and cyber truck .. I have had 2 bolts.. have a c8 Vette... I hate to say it.. but for my life style, I prefer the EV drivetrain now.
Google "GM Ultium 4680" .... pouch cells are only used by a few manufactures, and a majority of recalls are for pouch cells. It was a mistake that will cost GM billions they can't afford and years they don't have.
I'm impressed with all of the engineering that went into this vehicle and the fact that GM could pull off something this well done in such a short amount of time. It still shows that when push comes to shove the Big 3 can still do totally amazing things. But as a driver who has to share the road with vehicles like these, it scares the hell out of me. This thing weight literally 3 times as much as my car, does 0-60 in a few seconds, and anybody with a basic driver's license can get behind the wheel. Things are going to start ending VERY badly for other motorists that get in the way of these Hummers...
I'm not sure this is impressive. They constructed an impressive heap of junk. This EV nonsense has to stop. We need to tell these people we don't want it won't buy and don't give a damn what they say.
@@AB-pl1ko f350 dually comes close to 11,000 pounds, those arent commercial. most pickups are around 7000, so this isn't that far off. even a tesla is like 3500 on the lighter side, and over 5000 on the higher side. all the cars are getting heavier these days
I still think GM did the Camaro dirty by moving Oppenheiser to EV's. That man wanted to get the 6th gen Camaro to sub 7 minute nurburgring time. I think it could have been possible.
I'd implore everyone go watch stradman take his hummer to Moab. See how that experience goes.... Hats off to savage geese for bringing us another banger of a review. Doing god's work out there.
I like this thing as a comical marvel of engineering and am simultaneously glad that GM will not sell this in large quantities. This completely defeats the reason why we need to electrify transportation: it hogs resources, is extraordinarily inefficient for such a high resource requirement, and is so heavy it is a threat to infrastructure durability when the United States is desperately in need of rebuilding and futurizing.
North America. Hey, lets have Kei cars like in Japan! "sorry they don't pass safety regulations" What about a...hmmm 9000lb Hummer which is; Insanely fast Dangerous for pedestrians Dangerous for bikers and most cars Oversized for most cities and parking lots Can't fit in most urban and suburban garages so theft will be high due to value "Perfect, let's approve it!"
Prototypes are easy.... production is.....hard. The amount of work GM put into this will pale in comparison to the work GM needs to put into scaling EV production.
I really enjoyed this video. Great mix of technical and practical/review! Your research allowed you to provide context for why GM did the things they did. It also allowed you to show us why this is different from what we've seen before. That said, I'm not going to rush right out to get one. That's a few nickels more than I'm willing to spend.
God I can't wait to get tailgated by these things on the freeway. I'll love that the last thing I see in my rearview before me and my car get pancaked is "HUMMER". That's marketing right there
I always wondered why manufacturers use a steering wheel with paddle shifts in a car that doesn't have an automatic. Like sometimes they use it for engaging rev match in a manual car, and then in EVs like this for turning regen on and off. Is it cause they just have a surplus of steering wheels with paddle shifters? I don't get why the do this
Because it is a position that can be very easily reached without taking your hands off the wheel. And they also probably produce the same steering wheel over and over so its cheaper if just all of them have it.
Have to appreciate how the tech and engineering will benefit future vehicles. Just like race vehicles are not practical, but personal vehicles have adopted many of their features.
This reminds me of that SNL skit about kitchen appliances for men, making everything pointlessly rugged-looking so they can get over their insecurities lol. That said, it sounds like they did some incredible work, I love that they beat the Cybertruck to the punch, and I'm looking forward to some of this trickling down to the Bolt!
If we thought F-150 owners were a monstrosity to pedestrians and road safety, this thing amplifies all the issues. American pedestrian and child fatalities have consistently climbed since these hit the streets while every real modern country has consistently fallen with these tanks unavailable. We need the small truck segment to continue to grow and return us to the 1950’s-70’s era of trucks.
Base price 110,000, with options 145,000, with dealer markup 185,000. That's just what we need.. another expensive big-ass vehicle in addition to what we have on the road right now. Without the infrastructure in place and charging technology that is quick and cheap, this is as useless as a condom with a hole in it.
I hate this fucking thing. Imagine how much money has been dumped into developing this instead of refreshing the Bolt with a battery pack that can actually quick charge or making ICE vehicles that actually compete in their markets. No one wanted this. This is what’s wrong with modern car companies.
@@attananightshadow yeah thanks to government subsidies and contracts unfortunately. They’re not the only offender but I do think they’re the worst offender.
You own 18 ranches, and you need a small condo that communicates power and fragility simultaneously. May I offer you the Hummer EV! I’ll still find the Hummer exceptional technology and potentially fun, but its still boggling that this is a consumer project, 100 Grand excess ultimate. Helps to visualize it as a super car/sports car equivalent like y’all mentioned
love it. And it still does not beat internal combustion where I can re-fuel in less than 10 minutes whilst peeing and buying a snack and then also go for another 450 miles on a tank. So, nope, it does not beat existing internal combustion tech at all.
Great video as always. I discovered your channel a couple of months ago and almost finished watching all of them, best car channel out there. Subscribed to patreon in the process. From the EU, my favorites of your videos are those random 5 tons SUVs, it's like going to the zoo.
I think they did a great job with the interior and exterior as well as some features and appeared quality of the vehicle. That being said, I wish they made a more practical vehicle AND I wish they’d extend quality to every other GM vehicle - which they clearly don’t.
How far can you tow on a charge? What is the weight limit to tow? What are they doing to help reduce fires once the battery pack is cracked in an accident? EV's burn far hotter than a ICE engine and can reignite days later.
Towing capacity is 7500 lbs. Car & Driver is the only publication I've seen complete a range test comparison between Lightning, R1T, and Hummer. Towing identical trailers, the Hummer had the best overall range and best towing range. Still not ideal for long-distance towing like a hotshotter or camping three states away.
What’s everyone’s thought on GM axing Android Auto/Apple CarPlay in their EVs starting with Equinox EV? I’m pretty sure most people consider that a mandatory feature in every new car now, so good luck GM 👋🏽.
EV’s still need some regression testing to be ready for the mainstream, but will get better overtime. I’ve a 2022 Ford Lightning and so far have put 10k miles on it. It’s been great but has it’s share of issues and quirks. Would I buy again? Maybe. But I do have an ICE vehicle and wouldn’t replace ICE to EV at the moment or the near future.
Thank y’all for highlighting why Ford, Stellantis, nor Tesla can compete with the engineering of this model. Only thing the haters wanna talk about is how many have been built or sold YTD because the actual product they do not care to discuss. Their favorite brands don’t even have an answer for this, but you’ll see many comments from their customers under every ZR2/AT4X video complaining about why GM hasn’t provided their GM fans a Raptor/TRX competitor. Perhaps the same or a slightly different reason neither of them have provided a Supertruck to compete with the Hummer EV twins yet. General Motors has separated themselves from the rest of the industry with vehicles like the Hummer EV and Cadillac Lyriq/Celestiq. You can tell they’re highly advanced and brand new vehicles just from admiring their exteriors before you get close enough to open a door. The attention to detail that GM dedicates to their high end products is unprecedented for American manufacturers, but they go even further in functionality. The Silverado EV with the mid-gate is brilliant. GM’s Ultium platform is the blueprint for what the new standard of EVs has become.
@@jayxj7785 Thank you, but I feel I’m just telling the truth. Too many people on the web are pretending they can’t see it too. Nobody talks about how Honda has approached GM to build their most important vehicle of the decade for them (Prologue). Honda didn’t go to Tesla with all the EVs they have sold or Ford who was first to rush a EV pickup to market, they decided to *wait* on GM. Think about that! Lol. Honda ain’t just anybody, and that’s high praise for the work GM has put into their Ultium platform and Ultifi network. I’m simply reminding GM’s haters of some *FACTS.* 🤷🏽♂️
Can you imagine some distracted soccer mom driving this 9k lb behemoth tailgating you and you have to make a sudden stop? This will pancake most small cars
I never would have believed this truck was any good. To many years of GM marketing BS, has totally destroyed GM credibility. Really impressive vehicle.
If I understand this, right, there are separate engines for each wheel? If so, what happens if one of these engines fails? Will the vehicle still drive OK? Just wondering with so many capabilities comes so many future points of failure possible ?
Only way I'd see it causing problems is if the motor seized up as theres no slip between the motor and the wheel, but thats a very rare catastrophic failure (like running an ICE with no oil till it seizes). If the MCU dies then it will likely free spin and throw all sorts of errors, but if they're stupid then they make it lock up in the event of 1 motor failure which would be a deathtrap. All software
@@james2042 Thanks. One winter storm, several years ago, we had to roll down the window to check out of a parking lot and the window wouldn't roll back up. Suddenly manual windows was something we then wish we had.
@@chuckmuysson5513 I mean anything can fail. The AC in my moms 92 crown vic runs perfectly fine to date and its all original. thats two motors right there, the ac compressor and the blower for the air. but anecdotal stories don't speak to overall reliability. How often are you replacing your well pump, or your furnace blower, or lots of other electric motors?
I drive a volt, they only get 40-50 miles of range before the gas engine kicks in. I stop by a gas station maybe three times a year, I only use public chargers that are free, like at some grocery stores or public buildings. 99% of my miles are powered from my wall in the garage. While the infrastructure does need *a lot* of work, most of the time you just treat the thing like your cell phone, at the end of the day no matter if it is at 40% or 11%, you plug it in and it's fully charged by the next time you need to use it. Now obviously if you don't actually own the EV and your just testing it, you'll have to rely on the subpar chargers, but if you actually buy one you'll want to invest the $2500 for a home charger and then you don't ever have to stop at gas stations or public charging locations.
"1 kW in to the heat pump gives you 5 kW out" "Not using the electrons to propel the vehicle I'm using the thermal energy in it" Shit man I gotta go back to school I'm way behind on this new stuff
No gas engine means no "free" cabin heat. Heat pumps transfer heat from one place to another. So you can get 5kw of heat for 1kw of heat pump compressor energy. Usable for heating the cabin without relying on electric heat strips which require at least 5kw of electricity to get 5kw of heat. The heat pump is efficiently transferring battery thermal heat to the cabin when and where needed. The suggestion that this heat pump is getting 5 to 1 efficiency (COP of 5) is the story since most heat pumps are around 3 to 1 Coefficient of Performance average. The "using electrons to propel" simply means saving more battery capacity for the motors rather than using more of it for old school electric strip heat. All of which is a bigger deal in a cold climate like Chicago than Florida or Southern California.
for the person that buys a top trim diesel truck as a non-hauler daily because “those things last forever” … just to trade it in for next year’s when that releases
Can only hope at least the R&D money and robots and design processes trickle down to smaller, sensible vehicles. Volt and Bolt were great ideas and honestly good EV's, but they could not out compete the Japanese traditonal HEV's, early BEV's and current Gen korean BEV's. So GM, in GM fashion said, screw it. Go Big!
Lol. You watched the entire review and definitely _still_ managed to *completely miss the point of the Hummer EV,* that’s for sure. It went right over your little head. Smh 😅
@@NoodlesExtraMSG sensible? Lol. So General Motors should only build boring “sensible” $110,000+ vehicles whose sole purpose is to be efficient, slow, underwhelming rebadged designs that look like preexisting models for the sake of costs cutting and conservatism? If that’s the only application of an EV that you believe the entire country is interested in, you may went to take a peek at the Hummer’s waiting list. The logic and business model you have maybe best for Tesla. I think I prefer the way Marry Barra thinks about EVs, a company as large as General Motors has more than one audience to satisfy and can actually satisfy several markets by offering it all and developing whatever the hell they want.
I'm torn between this and a Miata.
😂🤣👏👏
Get both, put it in the H2's glovebox.
por que no los dos?
You need two more vehicles for a proper drawn and quartered
Buy the Miata and get a non-electric hummer.
Finally, a truck big enough to carry all of my self-doubt and thirst for acceptance.
👏👏💯💯
idk sure u don't need a pair of smokestacks?
Like all true Americans . Yeah!!!!
JAJAJAJAJA
sorry, pal but its never big enough and the disappointment will set in after owning it for 3 months. Maybe a Oshkosh M1070 next?
An unexpected side effect of being a Savagegeese fan is a growing respect for GM, both because of their willingness to communicate info to journalists, and showcase their honest engineering prowess
Wait until you find out they’re getting rid of ApplePlay.
Thanks, We're fellowengineers and enthusiasts! Happy to see the engagement and transparency as a gm engineer.
Are ya Professional Grade, son?!
Marry led 🤡
@@mbyte84 even more based, cause my last time using it was absolute ass
Hummer: We heard our ICE models were inefficient, let's make our EV model inefficient too!
Just like Teslas.
These EV's are a scam.
@@ariescaisip5498 Idiotic propaganda. It's kind of insane how little power a passenger car BEV actually uses. 250 Watt Hour Per Mile is just a crazy industry benchmark. FACTs dictate that is very little amount of energy thus very efficient.
@@ariescaisip5498 "EV's are a scam" - The fossil fuel industry
@@ariescaisip5498 EVs are on average 4x as efficient as ICE vehicles. There's definitely lots of arguments in favor of the benefits of having liquid fuel instead of batteries, but there's no arguing that EVs are far more energy efficient, that's just a basic fact.
*slow clap*
I couldn't imagine getting something like this stuck in the mud off-road. It's so heavy that a rescue mission would take a tractor.
Hey, if you've got enough money to buy it, you can afford the Chinook to come in and air-lift it out of the hole :))
If you ever used a wench, it would probably shift tectonic plates
Call in the Ukrainian farmers
Trail mater ftw
If you watch some TFL videos. The weight really is a problem off-road. Stopping and starting on inclines and declines
Never stop being technical, this is the only place I can find that kind of information. Never change.
I honestly couldn't care less about the Hummer but I am amazed at their Product Managers. This was a master class in getting their people on board with thinking differently and thinking bigger. Well done to you two in telling that story!
Usually selling the product you manage is key........
Oh wait..... this is just a "showcase" vehicle.... 🤡
All 1st gen technology, nothing new from battery to drive unit etc. Tesla already on 3rd and 4th gen.
@Tony got stock in tesla, eh? 😅 jk. Just goofin. New EV goofin.
@@tomjoad8272 u got that right, 100k
I'm torn between this and a house.
When I think sustainability and environmentalism, this is exactly what comes to mind
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
A 9000 lbs EV with energy efficiency equivalent to a Prius is still much better than an equivalent ICE truck like a Raptor or Ram TRX.
I only ever think of the environment when flying PJ to Davos
@@grigorioschristodoulou5229 underated comment
@@bahamatodd this is way more inefficient than a raptor in every single way that actually matters..
I was curiously waiting for the Shop segment to see if the trusty old Benpaks could hold up this 9k lb behemoth tank and if the guys would actually stand under the thing while doing the segment. Thankfully looks like they didnt!
Lift screamed, “No!”
They wont even work on it bro. All the good mechanics are working on the occasional ford pickup, toyota or honda when they rarely need work. Thet retire or find a mew career when these things start showing up
Thought to myself “doesn’t matter if it makes 1000hp if it weighs 9k” but then i realized thats a better power to weight ratio than my car
Your car is probably way better than this vehicle
If you took this too far off-road and buried it…. Not many can pull 9k pounds from a stuck condition. This thing will sink in mud.
We have a back up wrecker on standby
Mud? I'm worried about this thing sinking in my concrete driveway.
You’ve clearly never seen a Hummer demonstration in the mud despite the hundreds of hours of filming of just that on this very website. Y’all are choosing to be ignorant as hell.
This thing will snap those skinny tie rods on the first major obstacle so at least the recovery vehicle wont have to travel far.
I ran the math a while back on this, the energy consumption and range of this while doing severe offroading is equivalent to a fully fueled ICE Ford Bronco carrying an additional 15 gallons of gasoline. I honestly don't think this will have any big issues, you'd be hard-pressed to find a stretch of offroad course in the United States that could actually tax that range to the limit. That said I'm sure somebody will drive this off the edge of black bear pass at some point.
I'm still stuck on the 9,000 lbs. I imagine getting rear ended by one of these in my 90s Miata because they can't see past their hood
I had an NA and miss it often, but yeah I don't feel comfortable in one anymore around even "normal" SUVs. Now make those SUVs twice as heavy and twice as fast... Yeah, maybe I'll get an ND instead so I can maintain the illusion of not dying instantly in an accident.
You are acting like there aren't heavy vehicles on the road today.
@@cwx8 9000+ pound lifted trucks that do 0-100 in 3-ish seconds are not something we have today
@@lemster101 100% My NB is about 25% of the weight.
@@lemster101 ok so if it doesn't accelerate as fast, you're ok with it?
“It’s all about girth, not length” - Dr. Jack Singapore, doggy day care owner, Epcot Day-Tripper.
9000lbs with a 3 second 0 to 60, what could possibly wrong
Now imagine getting rear ended by one in a Miata?
Wet road rage dream lol
Missing out the word "go", for example
Electric vehicles are for smoothbrain democrats that cant tell what gender they are
At least it has a speed limit I think
like you guys said in the hellcat redeye video, anyone who drives this should probably take some sedatives. 0 to 60 in 3 ish seconds in a behemoth this big will kill somebody.
I'm so glad we're building vehicles like this in order to save the planet
- LOL!
Lmao
lol
Making this vehicle is way worse for the enviorment than a gonda accord or v8 f150
No
Hummer EV- The quintessential 'im definitely not compensating for anything' vehicle
That would be the loud and obnoxious Ford Raptor R, when a V6 Raptor ain’t _Ford tough_ enough. 🤡
@@mybro727 the raptor should never have a v6. base f150 can have a v8, why shouldnt the sporty one?!
as for compensation, that's definitely all the guys with a lift kit and over sized tires. none of them use it for what those are for
@@mybro727 And 90% of them will never go off road, just like the hummer 🤡
The fact this car weight (with occupants and luggage) is 10,000 pounds is INSANE! If this car crashes into anything less than a mid-size SUV, you will be toast. As SUVs and Trucks are getting bigger they need to update crash test safety standards on how a vehicle impacts other smaller cars during a collision. God forbid this hits a Honda Civic let alone a pedestrian...
This vehicle has been on the market for over a year now. How many Hummer related accidents have you heard of or Hummers that have been involved in a crash? There have been more Tesla related fatalities in one calendar year than there has been Hummer fender benders reported since the vehicle has been in production, yet y’all will deem this to be _the most dangerous_ simply because of it’s capability on and off road, size and mass? Is the Raptor R and TRX trucks exempt from being so dangerous because they carry gallons of flammable gasoline? Sure, that makes complete sense. 🤡
@@mybro727 Dude, there have been less than like 1,000 total deliveries of this thing. By sheer volume of production you SHOULDNT be hearing about wrecks. Tesla has sold almost 2 million cars so obviously you haven't heard of wrecks comparatively. Also, this guy is talking about weight. Tesla's are already insanely heavy. This is NINE THOUSAND pounds. The average weight of cars prior to recent years was like 3k pounds; a proper sports car is usually in the mid 2ks (even some today are). If this thing hits anyone in a compact car or even sedan, they will be dead.
@@mybro727 in physics: force = mass x acceleration. A 4,000 pound full-size Dodge Charger running into you at 70mph will do LESS damage to your car than this 10,000 pound Hummer going 35mph.
In other words: Brock Lesnar's jab is going to hurt a LOT more than a haymaker from a 6th grader.
The weight eats tires as well.
@@seanshong2048 Sir, a “jab” from a 6,00 lb RAM TRX at 70 mph could kill you just as well as a Hummer traveling 70 mph could kill you. The RAM isn’t exactly a 6th grader’s jab and neither is a 2 ton Dodge Charger plowing into you at 70mph. A better analogy is the 6th grader shooting you with the same gun as Brock Lesnar. That’s the part that’s going right over your head, they’re both equally as dangerous under the same circumstances. The Hummer isn’t anymore dangerous than the Charger would be at the hands of the same reckless driver as both vehicles are powerful and heavy.
I know this goes completely against your narrative but it is the actual *reality.*
GM produced a grand total of 2 of these in Q1 2023… it is essentially a prototype by build quantity standards
They are slowly ramping back up. The plant was being re-tooled for the Silverado EV production which realistically is their more important product (volume seller).
Damn. Saw one in my area teh other day. Surprisingly looks smaller in person, although I'm used to seeing TRX's and Raptors so that's probably why it didn't seem as gigantic lol
You frigging nailed it. It's straight up marketing.
Saw one locally in Nashville this week. No idea if it was a press truck or one of the 2 that were sold. It was gargantuan and did not appeal to me. But to those who desire this, more power to you!
How much do you think does GM lose on each one made? Can it be considered a compliance product?
I really find the engineering details in this video super interesting. Should be cool to see these technologies get adapted to “regular” EVs in the next few years. I’m all for EV off-leaders if we can get range and charging times that are comparable to gas 4x4s 😃
So much engineering to the point where it’s an electrical nightmare
@@SparklingWalrusLess engineering in EV's than a conventional automobile, that's for certain.
More LITHIUM MINES! WORK CHILDREN!
@@thirstypilgrim97 .... has clearly never seen a lithium mine 🤡
Imagine if they invested this much in an actual usable EV....
They did. The EV1, then 20-30 years later, the Bolt. But they didn't market it.
Dealerships hardly carried it, and charged you out the ass if you tried to order it
saw it as "the enemy", didn't send their Techs to learn it.
Sold it to fleets.
@@NoodlesExtraMSG The EV1, while not perfect, was great for those times - if only they would have kept developing from there GM and the auto industry would have been in a much better place... The Bolt meanwhile is plagued with issues.
@@Jackinacox true, but to their credit, they made good on replacing the LG battery, even for cars that had a ton of miles/ past initial covered period.... even if it took a lawsuit or 2.
Like the Silverado, Sierra, Blazer, Equinox, Lyriq and several other EVs they have coming in the next few years?
@@bahamatodd Truck, Truck, Crossover, Crossover, Crossover .... notice anything?
like a neon sign saying "even Viagra doesn't work for me"
I have a broken dick and I just want a non ND Miata.
9,000lbs and no commercial drivers license required? Yikes.
- insane and it makes you wonder of insurance companies will make these things impossible to insure unless the owner receives special training in advance? +1 on that IMO..
As someone who works with people who have commercial drivers licenses. I promise you It means absolutely nothing. Also you don't need a CDL untill the gross vehicle weight rating is over 26,000 pounds. 9,000 is not that much. My work truck is 14,000 pounds empty. Also this does not apply to recreational vehicles.
@@autohelix For sure, I know it doesn't meet the minimum for a CDL, however, 9,000 lbs is more than enough if you ask the person who gets in an accident against the guy driving this pig. Gob forbid the other person is in a rational vehicle that weighs much much less. I sure as hell don't want to get mowed down by the latest small penis energy brodozer while driving my mx5.
@@tylertullis6536 Yeah but how is a CDL going to make a difference? The main purpose of a CDL in my opinion is to make sure everything works lights tires and so on. But in reality it is just a way to artificially inflate wages. I wish you could take a CDL test in this thing It would be easiest test in human history.
@@autohelix Oh it sounds like it wouldn't change anything other than maybe limiting how many people buy the hummer. The price already does that though, aren't these things marked up by 50-100% at dealers? Either way, it weighs 2x as much as my first generation Tundra annnd I find that ridiculous.
Bravo gentleman, bravo 👏🏼.
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Also, a big thank you to GM for the access and for helping the Geese get the information they needed to make this 🙏🏼
Props to Paige at GM to get us the technical answers!
A friend of mine worked a lot on this. I actually got to go for a ride while it was still in testing. One of the benefits of living in Ann Arbor for 2 years.
Did you drive it to Briarwood Mall? Or through Huron River Drive.(Former Ann Arbor resident)
@Christine Sommerfeld I cant remember where all we went with it, but I do remember parking on Maynard Street downtown. We went to some bubble tea place on State St. which may no longer be there. This was back in 2021 while it was still very much in the testing phase.
To the manufacturers and their engineers, I give them all A+'s. They are implementing, with success, the whimsical dreams of some bloviating governmental bureaucrat, owned by the Chinese, who is worrying about a crisis that doesn't exist. I could go on for about as long as it takes to charge an electric car, but...
Well Done
I hate how the speedometer jumps 15mph at a time during the launch, as though it can't refresh fast enough to accurately display the speed as it increases.
Yea, when I think great software... I think of GM above all else 🤣
You forgot gm is an electrical nightmare of a brand.
@@TheAnnoyingBoss Good thing Biden picked them to lead the EV transition 😂
now you can mow down pedestrians without them ever hearing you coming
I'm going to acknowledge GM's development on this. I didn't expect such progress from them.
Yes, they sold 2 this quarter...... progress 😂
@@TheLastMoccasinhey man they would even sold 3 if i could afford it
@@junyaiwase 😆It's not about having buyers.... it's about GM's ability to make EVs and sell them without having to constantly recall or stop sale all of them.
@@TheLastMoccasin The problem is a ramp up in manufacturing and a battery issue, supposedly since solved, not a lack of demand
Between the pick up and the SUV versions, per GM there are 90,000 reservations.
@@williamgechtman9287 Soo... Prototypes are easy.... Production is .... Hard?
I feel like I would need to reinforce my garage floor to support this beast.
Savagegeese out here making Good Friday a Great Friday
I'm not a joyless scold about most things other people enjoy, but I despise this truck and truly believe it shouldn't exist. 9000-lb vehicles on public roads shouldn't be rocket ships.
I somehow don't believe your joyless scold claim
You just sound like a broke hater
This is an insane truck. I watched the documentary about the development of the new Hummer EV and I walked away from that program thoroughly convinced GM has some of the best engineers in the automotive industry today. The Hummer EV looks fantastic and if I could afford one, I would be in line to get one. Well done GM.
This is literally so heavy you can't even drive it on some roads legally.
Sounds like the government’s problem, not mine
@@Rudenbehr gonna need less edge on that
what roads
@@Rudenbehr same guy 3 months later: yooo why are all the bridges and roads always under construction? I don geddit
@@papa_pt Certain bridges with weight limits. Most surface streets should be fine.
Really appreciate the technical overviews, and particularly for this product. There is a lot to take into account with all these 1st gen EV's, and the speed of that development cycle is definitely one of them. I am really excited to see how 'ultium' progresses in the GMS Sierra and particularly the Silverado EV.
Acura's new EV will use this platform, too.
I'm in the list for the silverado and cyber truck .. I have had 2 bolts.. have a c8 Vette...
I hate to say it.. but for my life style, I prefer the EV drivetrain now.
Google "GM Ultium 4680" .... pouch cells are only used by a few manufactures, and a majority of recalls are for pouch cells. It was a mistake that will cost GM billions they can't afford and years they don't have.
I'm impressed with all of the engineering that went into this vehicle and the fact that GM could pull off something this well done in such a short amount of time. It still shows that when push comes to shove the Big 3 can still do totally amazing things.
But as a driver who has to share the road with vehicles like these, it scares the hell out of me. This thing weight literally 3 times as much as my car, does 0-60 in a few seconds, and anybody with a basic driver's license can get behind the wheel. Things are going to start ending VERY badly for other motorists that get in the way of these Hummers...
I'm not sure this is impressive. They constructed an impressive heap of junk. This EV nonsense has to stop. We need to tell these people we don't want it won't buy and don't give a damn what they say.
The NHTSA is asleep at the wheel. Vehicles like this have no business being on the road.
- there should be an upper weight limit for non-commercial road vehicles where the driver is not required to have additional training to purchase/own.
@@AB-pl1ko f350 dually comes close to 11,000 pounds, those arent commercial. most pickups are around 7000, so this isn't that far off. even a tesla is like 3500 on the lighter side, and over 5000 on the higher side. all the cars are getting heavier these days
@@povertyspec9651 why not? because you're afraid of it? no one makes you get on the road.
Very nice touch with Ride the Lightning in the infotainment, probably the best cameo ever. MCU be damned
I still think GM did the Camaro dirty by moving Oppenheiser to EV's. That man wanted to get the 6th gen Camaro to sub 7 minute nurburgring time. I think it could have been possible.
saw one of these on the highway last night and my god do the LED lights give MASSIVE presence on the road, damn near looks like a ufo
I'd implore everyone go watch stradman take his hummer to Moab. See how that experience goes.... Hats off to savage geese for bringing us another banger of a review. Doing god's work out there.
i just watched Stradman's video. That was pretty crazy.
TFL took theirs to Moab and it broke down
Just wondering why Savagegeese hasnt done a Rivian yet? I would expect them to be one of the first because Rivians are made in their home state.
Great, detailed video. I hate virtually everything about this "truck".
I like this thing as a comical marvel of engineering and am simultaneously glad that GM will not sell this in large quantities. This completely defeats the reason why we need to electrify transportation: it hogs resources, is extraordinarily inefficient for such a high resource requirement, and is so heavy it is a threat to infrastructure durability when the United States is desperately in need of rebuilding and futurizing.
Did the GM engineers disclosed which rocks & trees have outlets for charging your off-road EV???
North America.
Hey, lets have Kei cars like in Japan!
"sorry they don't pass safety regulations"
What about a...hmmm
9000lb Hummer which is;
Insanely fast
Dangerous for pedestrians
Dangerous for bikers and most cars
Oversized for most cities and parking lots
Can't fit in most urban and suburban garages so theft will be high due to value
"Perfect, let's approve it!"
I love y'all so much for skipping over most of the theater and digging into the huge amount of work GM put into this truck.
Prototypes are easy.... production is.....hard. The amount of work GM put into this will pale in comparison to the work GM needs to put into scaling EV production.
I really enjoyed this video. Great mix of technical and practical/review! Your research allowed you to provide context for why GM did the things they did. It also allowed you to show us why this is different from what we've seen before.
That said, I'm not going to rush right out to get one. That's a few nickels more than I'm willing to spend.
Mission "save the planet" accomplished!!!
EVs are worse for the environment than ICE
@@cowmath77 how exactly, batteries have been developed all the time for all kinds of other devices not just for car use
@@cowmath77 its same technology, what are you talking about
The gross weight of this vehicle actually exceeds the weight limit on the alignment rack in my shop. It is gargantuan.
Can't wait to see these things taking up 3 spaces at my local shoprite
Bought by some idiot with more money than sense. They bum rushed the build too
4:49 'Ride the Lightning' ... 🤔😏
Really underwhelmed that this isn’t any bigger or heavier. I guess I’ll just stick to my Fiat 500.
God I can't wait to get tailgated by these things on the freeway. I'll love that the last thing I see in my rearview before me and my car get pancaked is "HUMMER".
That's marketing right there
These kind of videos are what make this channel so good. Love the technical discussion.
“You see that sucker over there? 0 to 60 in 4.1 seconds”
bolt heads and ends just sticking out under the vehicle going to play really well with rock crawling... 20:12
Tell me you're familiar with rock climbing without telling me you're familiar with rock climbing... That's good spotting!
I always wondered why manufacturers use a steering wheel with paddle shifts in a car that doesn't have an automatic. Like sometimes they use it for engaging rev match in a manual car, and then in EVs like this for turning regen on and off. Is it cause they just have a surplus of steering wheels with paddle shifters? I don't get why the do this
Because it is a position that can be very easily reached without taking your hands off the wheel. And they also probably produce the same steering wheel over and over so its cheaper if just all of them have it.
Over the last 15 years or so, a lot of people have become accustomed to paddle shifters and this one feels like using a downshift paddle
It's cool. So much shit in this car is just cool. I think it works.
Can somebody please do an AMA of a person that buys this? Psychology will make many advances of the Ego of humankind
Have to appreciate how the tech and engineering will benefit future vehicles. Just like race vehicles are not practical, but personal vehicles have adopted many of their features.
This reminds me of that SNL skit about kitchen appliances for men, making everything pointlessly rugged-looking so they can get over their insecurities lol. That said, it sounds like they did some incredible work, I love that they beat the Cybertruck to the punch, and I'm looking forward to some of this trickling down to the Bolt!
If we thought F-150 owners were a monstrosity to pedestrians and road safety, this thing amplifies all the issues. American pedestrian and child fatalities have consistently climbed since these hit the streets while every real modern country has consistently fallen with these tanks unavailable. We need the small truck segment to continue to grow and return us to the 1950’s-70’s era of trucks.
This is so heavy that you are required to enter weigh stations on the interstate.
If you play this at 1.25 speed it’s completely unnoticeable and way more watchable
Just watch the ending with Jack at 0.5x and get an even bigger laugh
Time to full charge: 2 weeks
I think these type of vehicles should be nicknamed “lithium guzzlers”.
That ending LMFAO
One has to admire your playlists!😊
Is this a pre-production vehicle? Looks like the front passenger electric seat adjuster didn't pass quality controls.
Garbage Manufacturing has QC?
I noticed the same thing. Looks like someone jammed it in there when it stopped working or something.
Not a vehicle I’d ever buy but kudos to the folks at GM for taking the time to explain the development and tech to our Patagonia clad hosts.
Base price 110,000, with options 145,000, with dealer markup 185,000. That's just what we need.. another expensive big-ass vehicle in addition to what we have on the road right now. Without the infrastructure in place and charging technology that is quick and cheap, this is as useless as a condom with a hole in it.
"Oh my prostate.", are words seldom uttered during acceleration runs. Truly, a WTF moment. Great review.
I hate this fucking thing. Imagine how much money has been dumped into developing this instead of refreshing the Bolt with a battery pack that can actually quick charge or making ICE vehicles that actually compete in their markets. No one wanted this. This is what’s wrong with modern car companies.
GM can develop whatever they like, they won’t go out of business.
@@attananightshadow yeah thanks to government subsidies and contracts unfortunately. They’re not the only offender but I do think they’re the worst offender.
"Ride the Lightning" on the stereo? You guys have been taking notes from Alex on Autos. 😊
To the MOON LET'S GO!!!!!!! ARTEMIS HUMMER LET'S GO!
You own 18 ranches, and you need a small condo that communicates power and fragility simultaneously. May I offer you the Hummer EV!
I’ll still find the Hummer exceptional technology and potentially fun, but its still boggling that this is a consumer project, 100 Grand excess ultimate. Helps to visualize it as a super car/sports car equivalent like y’all mentioned
Amazing! Handles like…. a 9000 lb. EV truck.
Based on the reliability stories out about this electric Hummer, I applaud GM for staying true to their (lack of) quality assurance testing.
Man, can you imagine this crashing into, well, ANYTHING, at highway speeds?
Anyone whos twlling me im going to have no choice but to buy an electric car should be locked in jail. Antifreedom slave auto industry tyranny
love it. And it still does not beat internal combustion where I can re-fuel in less than 10 minutes whilst peeing and buying a snack and then also go for another 450 miles on a tank. So, nope, it does not beat existing internal combustion tech at all.
These AI deepfake bits are so cursed. I love them. Nvidia is getting their money's worth for sure with you showcasing their tech's abilities.
Great video as always. I discovered your channel a couple of months ago and almost finished watching all of them, best car channel out there. Subscribed to patreon in the process. From the EU, my favorites of your videos are those random 5 tons SUVs, it's like going to the zoo.
6:00 - Dang look at all those cars driving in reverse, in unison!
3:54 from the damn seat switch, GM.
I think they did a great job with the interior and exterior as well as some features and appeared quality of the vehicle. That being said, I wish they made a more practical vehicle AND I wish they’d extend quality to every other GM vehicle - which they clearly don’t.
Reminds me of the Canyonero from the simpsons.
How far can you tow on a charge? What is the weight limit to tow? What are they doing to help reduce fires once the battery pack is cracked in an accident? EV's burn far hotter than a ICE engine and can reignite days later.
Towing capacity is 7500 lbs. Car & Driver is the only publication I've seen complete a range test comparison between Lightning, R1T, and Hummer. Towing identical trailers, the Hummer had the best overall range and best towing range. Still not ideal for long-distance towing like a hotshotter or camping three states away.
What’s everyone’s thought on GM axing Android Auto/Apple CarPlay in their EVs starting with Equinox EV? I’m pretty sure most people consider that a mandatory feature in every new car now, so good luck GM 👋🏽.
EV’s still need some regression testing to be ready for the mainstream, but will get better overtime. I’ve a 2022 Ford Lightning and so far have put 10k miles on it. It’s been great but has it’s share of issues and quirks. Would I buy again? Maybe. But I do have an ICE vehicle and wouldn’t replace ICE to EV at the moment or the near future.
Or never
@@andersonrodriguez8258 Or never indeed. Especially since the need to do so is entirely manufactured.
Thank y’all for highlighting why Ford, Stellantis, nor Tesla can compete with the engineering of this model. Only thing the haters wanna talk about is how many have been built or sold YTD because the actual product they do not care to discuss. Their favorite brands don’t even have an answer for this, but you’ll see many comments from their customers under every ZR2/AT4X video complaining about why GM hasn’t provided their GM fans a Raptor/TRX competitor. Perhaps the same or a slightly different reason neither of them have provided a Supertruck to compete with the Hummer EV twins yet.
General Motors has separated themselves from the rest of the industry with vehicles like the Hummer EV and Cadillac Lyriq/Celestiq. You can tell they’re highly advanced and brand new vehicles just from admiring their exteriors before you get close enough to open a door. The attention to detail that GM dedicates to their high end products is unprecedented for American manufacturers, but they go even further in functionality. The Silverado EV with the mid-gate is brilliant. GM’s Ultium platform is the blueprint for what the new standard of EVs has become.
You should run for GM's enthusiast marketing position bro, you're killing it. I mean it in a good way ✌
@@jayxj7785 Thank you, but I feel I’m just telling the truth. Too many people on the web are pretending they can’t see it too. Nobody talks about how Honda has approached GM to build their most important vehicle of the decade for them (Prologue). Honda didn’t go to Tesla with all the EVs they have sold or Ford who was first to rush a EV pickup to market, they decided to *wait* on GM. Think about that! Lol. Honda ain’t just anybody, and that’s high praise for the work GM has put into their Ultium platform and Ultifi network.
I’m simply reminding GM’s haters of some *FACTS.* 🤷🏽♂️
@@mybro727 I hear ya!
Can you imagine some distracted soccer mom driving this 9k lb behemoth tailgating you and you have to make a sudden stop? This will pancake most small cars
I never would have believed this truck was any good. To many years of GM marketing BS, has totally destroyed GM credibility. Really impressive vehicle.
If I understand this, right, there are separate engines for each wheel? If so, what happens if one of these engines fails? Will the vehicle still drive OK? Just wondering with so many capabilities comes so many future points of failure possible ?
Only way I'd see it causing problems is if the motor seized up as theres no slip between the motor and the wheel, but thats a very rare catastrophic failure (like running an ICE with no oil till it seizes). If the MCU dies then it will likely free spin and throw all sorts of errors, but if they're stupid then they make it lock up in the event of 1 motor failure which would be a deathtrap. All software
@@james2042 Thanks. One winter storm, several years ago, we had to roll down the window to check out of a parking lot and the window wouldn't roll back up. Suddenly manual windows was something we then wish we had.
Modern brushless motors are pretty much bulletproof, there is only one moving part.
@@chuckmuysson5513 I mean anything can fail. The AC in my moms 92 crown vic runs perfectly fine to date and its all original. thats two motors right there, the ac compressor and the blower for the air. but anecdotal stories don't speak to overall reliability. How often are you replacing your well pump, or your furnace blower, or lots of other electric motors?
They’re not engines, they’re electric motors.
I drive a volt, they only get 40-50 miles of range before the gas engine kicks in. I stop by a gas station maybe three times a year, I only use public chargers that are free, like at some grocery stores or public buildings. 99% of my miles are powered from my wall in the garage. While the infrastructure does need *a lot* of work, most of the time you just treat the thing like your cell phone, at the end of the day no matter if it is at 40% or 11%, you plug it in and it's fully charged by the next time you need to use it. Now obviously if you don't actually own the EV and your just testing it, you'll have to rely on the subpar chargers, but if you actually buy one you'll want to invest the $2500 for a home charger and then you don't ever have to stop at gas stations or public charging locations.
"1 kW in to the heat pump gives you 5 kW out"
"Not using the electrons to propel the vehicle I'm using the thermal energy in it"
Shit man I gotta go back to school I'm way behind on this new stuff
No gas engine means no "free" cabin heat. Heat pumps transfer heat from one place to another. So you can get 5kw of heat for 1kw of heat pump compressor energy. Usable for heating the cabin without relying on electric heat strips which require at least 5kw of electricity to get 5kw of heat. The heat pump is efficiently transferring battery thermal heat to the cabin when and where needed. The suggestion that this heat pump is getting 5 to 1 efficiency (COP of 5) is the story since most heat pumps are around 3 to 1 Coefficient of Performance average. The "using electrons to propel" simply means saving more battery capacity for the motors rather than using more of it for old school electric strip heat. All of which is a bigger deal in a cold climate like Chicago than Florida or Southern California.
for the person that buys a top trim diesel truck as a non-hauler daily because “those things last forever” … just to trade it in for next year’s when that releases
pretty fun cool car though
😁👍Lets Gooooo!
The past few videos I've noticed what they have on the radio is usually a reference to the vehicle. Ride The Lightning is perfect for an EV truck.
Somehow I feel like we’re missing the point of making EVs when we start making 9,000 pound 1,000 hp monster trucks like this
That's the paradox. Current battery tech only really makes sense on an infrastructure charge speed basis for small cars. But people want SUVs.
Can only hope at least the R&D money and robots and design processes trickle down to smaller, sensible vehicles.
Volt and Bolt were great ideas and honestly good EV's, but they could not out compete the Japanese traditonal HEV's, early BEV's and current Gen korean BEV's.
So GM, in GM fashion said, screw it. Go Big!
Lol. You watched the entire review and definitely _still_ managed to *completely miss the point of the Hummer EV,* that’s for sure. It went right over your little head. Smh 😅
@@NoodlesExtraMSG sensible? Lol. So General Motors should only build boring “sensible” $110,000+ vehicles whose sole purpose is to be efficient, slow, underwhelming rebadged designs that look like preexisting models for the sake of costs cutting and conservatism?
If that’s the only application of an EV that you believe the entire country is interested in, you may went to take a peek at the Hummer’s waiting list.
The logic and business model you have maybe best for Tesla. I think I prefer the way Marry Barra thinks about EVs, a company as large as General Motors has more than one audience to satisfy and can actually satisfy several markets by offering it all and developing whatever the hell they want.
no this is exactly what EV's need. Thats like saying "we're missing the point of making ice vehicles by putting supercharged v8's in monster trucks"