Hey Jon I have a question. Do you know how to fix the wobble you where talking about?. I have a 22 4Runner 4X4 and that wobble bothers me a lot. I’m thinking to trade mine for a 4x2 to solve the issue. Is that the only solution ? I already replaced de needle bearing for the bushing on the differential axle on drivers side. I saw some improvement but it still wobbles.
Have them both. The 4runner has way more versatility. You can sleep in the 4runner and if you have kids, access to a food cooler in the rear cargo area saves you from stopping to access the back. If I were single, I would take the Taco just cause I like trucks better.
@@PS987654321PS true and most people will drop $4k+ on a topper while still having a payoff balance of over 70-80% of the value of the car. But i’m with you. I will get that topper once the taco is paid off.
I'm single and carry passengers sometimes with the Tacoma double cab. I daily drive it. I've gotten in to a lot of DIY home improvement so I prefer the truck bed with a tonneau cover over they jeep suv I had before or a 4runner though either for camping trips would work fine.
I had both vehicles as well. For me, it came down to the rear suspension and the superiority of coil springs over leaves. The other major difference was the weight distribution in the forerunner making it a much better performer in the snow.
I’ve got a 2019 cavalry blue TRD OR DCLB, ~80,000 miles and no issues, it’s been a great truck, super solid, no shifting issues either and lived at altitude/mountains. just drove it ~3,500mi from CO to AK and it had no problems.
I test drove both and I can’t get over the small size of the the cab in the Tacoma. I honestly still want one with a stick someday but I was trading in my F-150 and needed a main vehicle and to me at 6’3, the 4runner is way more comfortable to drive. Now that I’ve had my 4runner a few months, I definitely made the right decision.
Good call! I am 5' 11" and bought a Tacoma many years ago in 2006 and found out within a few weeks (first trip longer than 25 miles) that the seating position was pure torture. I bought the truck for great reliability of course but it soured me on Toyotas for many years. I am, however, taking a very hard look at the 4 runner based on more interior room and the fact that it is still made entirely in Japan.
I’ve had 3 tacomas in the past and my wife has a 4Runner. We recently had twins and found it difficult to put them in the back seats because of the lack of space. So I purchased a ford raptor….at first I loved it, but now I find myself wanting to go back too a Tacoma. To me, there is just no comparison too Toyota vehicles!
@@josevazquez1042 the raptor is very bulky, very hard into parking spaces, and drive thrus. I just know that I won’t get the longevity as a Toyota. I purchased the raptor new 3 months ago, and I’ve already taken it to shop twice. The hinge on back door snapped, and the heating coil to the drivers seat already malfunctioned. I would totally go back to a Tacoma or 4Runner if I didn’t have a Brady bunch family lol. I would opt for a new sequoia but they are impossible to find and the wait list in my area is 2 years out.
Great comparison. Of all the brands and models on the market the choice between a Tacoma or a 4Runner seems the most prevalent and sometimes difficult for folk to decide. We had a 2020 SR5 which was wonderful. We needed a pickup to haul stuff around, fill the back with mulch for the garden, haul lumber, etc. Recreationally as sea kayakers, campers, hikers, outdoor activities it’s perfect with a wealth of options to configure the bed for your needs. Just so much more practical. Rear passenger leg room is subjective and we would never make a decision for occasional passengers to feel more comfortable. If you have kids the room is fine. Utility, flexibility is the key. We didn’t want to deal with another large SUV for long trips or even around town. The Tacoma stayed planted, is more nimble, and was a comfortable long-distance driver. Otherwise we would have gone with a Subaru Outback instead. A natural selection and was perfect for our needs. Three (3) years later we traded it in recently for a 2022 Tacoma TRD Off Road with Predator package, right at the peak of used car prices. Even with the TRD upgrade from the SR5 we almost broke even, less than a $500 difference. Here's a tip on reducing the cost of a “higher model”. Don’t buy off the lot and pay for stuff you will never use or compromise on the color. Instead, sit down with your sales rep and order your Tacoma or 4Runner off of Toyota’s National Inventory. It arrived in 3 weeks. Why? Because the sales rep can sit down with you and DELETE packages or items you do not want and add others you want. The result is that you get a vehicle configured to your specific needs without unnecessary overhead. It brought the cost down to an equally equipped SR5 even including the Predator package which was discounted by Toyota at the time. We also got an additional $x thousand's discount from the dealership (largest sales volume in the SE region) and a couple freebies like hats and free break-in oil change, checkup at 750 miles independent of the regular free schedule. Timing and patience is everything, besides having a great dealership that is responsible, welcoming and knows you as a customer by name when you drop by is important to us. There is never any reason to pay retail or above for a 4Runner or Tacoma. Aside. For the 2022 we added a Pedal Commander. We had reservations, but my wife who always complained about the “sluggishness” loves it and drives faster than ever! With a pickup we added a gun rack for our hiking poles. BTW, if you have a 3D Printer there are hundreds of Tacoma designed parts and accessories for all generations to print for free and you can design your own using a free “maker” license from AutoDesk Fusion 360 CAD program. I recently designed a console insert for my handgun as an example. Search: www.stlfinder.com and www.thingiverse.com . There are many other sites to search.
4 runner all day man the cab space in the Tacoma was just entirely too small especially if your planning on or have a family. That’s one reason. Toyota dealership near me had my taco order in I sat for 7 months no answer with the wrong trans package installed. No remorse or even tried to come to an agreement with pricing once I went to another dealership and started looking at runners. They don’t care they just want your money. Then Aprs are through the roof right now I remember getting 2%s back in the day. Any ways buying the runner was a nightmare they went friendly and they weren’t knowledgeable about the runner with all questions I was asking. Just another job for the girl I was working with. Finally came to terms with them with what I WANTED out of the deal and we made a deal cut 5 k off the msrp of the pre installed packages which to be fair weren’t too bad, 3 things I would have had them taken off but I didn’t want to wait any longer I had already been waiting 7 months for a taco and they could have came back and said they cancelled it. Hedged my bets. But I did get the car at msrp and no mark ups except for the packages with 5k off for Toyota thon. The 4 runner is smoother, bigger, has more room for cargo and I feel the suspension is better. Yes it’s slower but you have to drive the speed limit in CO or they will screw u bad cops don’t play out here. The 3d print option is great I want to have my co worker make me a couple inserts for those weird cubbies that runner has
I shopped the TRD PRO Tacoma vs 4Runner. I went with the Voodoo 4Runner. I love the space and comfort of the interior. Rear window for the dog, definitely a game changer. Peace of mind I have with bullet proof reliability is also a bonus. Overall I’m very happy with the 4Runner, it has exceeded my expectations.
There are so many advantages with the 4runner. I had a road trip 2 years ago to yellowstone, 4 people. I have an enclosed carrier on my hitch for other stuff. Used a 12v fridge and another battery and kept all our food fresh even during a night rest. All our stuff are safe inside even on rainy days and accesible. If i had the tacoma, it will be a hassle for sure and the kids uncomfortable and will forever hate road trips that long. :)
I have a 2012 Trail 4Runner and I love that thing so much. I've test driven Tacoma's in the past, thinking if I had a truck I could do more hauling, but impo the 4Runner is the smoother ride and more spacious. I like the idea of a Tacoma, but I prefer the application of the 4Runner. Thank you for your video!
I have the best of both Worlds. A Tacoma for work and anything else I want to do. A 4Runner for anything else I want to do. 👍 I remember watching that 1st video you did - that's how I found your channel
@@anthonygiordano3991 in the SR5 yes. But it's quite a bit of body roll. I have the off-road premium with the KDSS system, the body roll doesn't exist and nosedive. Handles 50 times better
I have both and haul a lot inside both, the went with the 4 runner for comfort modularity and made in japan, there’s a huge quality difference from the domestic NAFTA made vs quality Japanese craftsmanship.
I have a 19 TRD PRO 4runner and a 21 TRD off-road Tacoma and I definitely like the 4runner better. Looks better drives better. Haven't gotten a chance to test the Tacoma off-road as much as I have the 4runner. Overall both are great vehicles. I just prefer the 4runner if I had to choose one.
The Tacoma definitely looks better. 4Runner kinda looks like an insect from the front. And the overall stance on pick up trucks ALWAYS looks more rugged and muscular than suvs.
I've owned a 2007 Toyota Tacoma TRD sport with a 6spd manual for the last 11 years. I have 240,000 miles on it. It burns more gas than a f150 (15 city 18 highway) but it is extremely reliable. In it's life I have had to replace the wheel bearings, the clutch, rebuild the universal joint, and do the ball joints. It definitely doesn't have the amenities of a modern truck but if you need something to get you to wherever you need to go and back again it's perfect So far it's been a great investment.
I’ve owned both and ultimately have kept and owned my 2012 TE 4runner with KDSS for 10 solid years now. For room, comfort, and solid build quality you can not go wrong with 4runner. If you need a truck buy a Tundra!
I agree totally. In the end the Tac was too small for our needs. So, we traded it in for an Ford F-450, and added a 4R. Now the wife can pack as much stuff as she wants into the big dually and I only have to go to Costco once every other month! And, we have the 4R for off-roading! Win win. 😃
Only reason I initally considered the Tacoma TRD Pro over the 4runner TRD Pro was the chance to get it in manual. Ultimately, the 4.0L, better build quality, and space in the back/rear window for the dog outweighed my desire for a 6spd manual.
Yes, that’s the exact dilemma I’m going through.. I REALLY, REALLY want the manual tranny but it’s really hard to not want to get the 4 Runner since it’s such an excellent vehicle.. How do I make this decision? Any thoughts?
@@juliekavanaugh4993 honestly, even not needing the truck bed, I was pretty dead set on the manual Tacoma TRD PRO......but just driving the 4runner and comparing interiors sealed the latter as the better option. I HIGHLY recommend driving both. I'm a manual junkie (my other car is a Type R) and still picked the 4runner, it's just a much better vehicle. Honestly, if you can live without the cool colors and fancy off roady bits, a GX460 is probably the best option overall and a base model can be had for roughly what 4runner TRD PROs are going for......I just like juvenile looking bright colored cars 😂
@@GreekCarFreak Thanks for the reply.. I too am a manual junkie and really want to get another vehicle with a manual.. But we have a 2004 4Runner with nearly 200,00 miles that we bought new then and it’s been great, hence why we’re considering buying another one.. I’ve looked at the GX 460 and really like it, but the base model doesn’t come with a locking rear diff and to get that means even more money on a higher up trim and we are not exactly over flowing with money, so money is a consideration.. But if I had the money, I’d get the GX 460 no questions asked.. Their great vehicles that will last a really long time.. If only I had more money.. 🥲 But maybe I could look at a used one that’s a couple of years old with low miles that would maybe save us some money.. Thank you so much for your reply and you have a great Christmas tomorrow and a happy New Year! 😊
I can only afford one. So I choose the tacoma for multipurpose. Easy to carry some oversized things like furniture etc. Easy to get things out when I go camping with kids and I don’t have to unload everything from the top or back just to get something from the bottom. SUV is just pain in the buttt when you have so much stuff to bring and you have to unload everything.
2015 4Runner, LTD, 180k miles. Only gripe is the doorlock actuators do not last long, on my third driver side and second passenger side, and neither currently work. One of the parking sonar nodules does not work. I have a bearing that needs to be replaced as well. However it pretty much drives exactly the same way as when I drove it off the lot.
The Tacoma is the favorite in Hawaii! I’ve had 2 Tacoma’s, 2003 and a 2010. Sold both of them and got a nautical blue 2019 4runner. Rides better than the Tacoma for sure!! I also had 2, 87 Toyota’s pickups back in the day. Kinda miss the Tacoma for hauling to be honest.
I got a 23 Tacoma SR5 in silver. Double cab and 6 ft bed. I use the bed all the time for tools and water containers. I can dirty it up and then its easy to just spray out at the car wash. I have already moved cabinets, furniture, and other junk with it and towed a double axle cargo trailer. Great daily driver/Work truck. Truck makes more sense for me.
I had both, sold my tacoma for a 4runner. i liked my tacoma so much more. more tech and the utility of having a bed is unbeatable. especially for people like me who go camping alot and use the bed for hauling wood and what not. 4 runner has a bit more cab room but its not enough to justify the switch. i now have a silverado but thats just my 2 cents. if torn between the two, Go tacoma.
Own both, love ❤️ them. Got the 4 Runner before the Taco. The husband wanted a new truck, so he got the Taco. What man doesn't like tacos, lol. Plus, he lifted it and added all the extra big truck look, it looks awesome.
You could make like an HD 4Runner with the Taco. If you get the large cab and get a topper on the bed, you have the same or more cargo room as a 4Runner BUT without the dirtiness inside the vehicle.
I feel the 4Runner would be better off road due to less wheelbase and tighter turn radius. Also, the Tacoma has rear c-channel frame for better off road articulation while 4Runner has fully boxed frame for more rigidity. Though KDSS is available in 4Runner. Great video and thank you for saying that Tacoma has leather seats while 4Runner has softex. Not many people know that.
OUTSTANDING REVIEW. Spot on! I own both as well. 2017 Tacoma and 2024 4Runner. LOVING the 4Runner but my Tacoma is a BEAST for wheelin. 4Runner for my long trips. Need a suspension on the 4Runner.
The seating issue of the Taco is resolved if you purchase the Frontier PRO-4X. Better mileage, better power, better interior, and have a better bed. Love the colors of your vehicles.
great video! Thank you! I have had my 4Runner for 4 years, and I love it more and more each year. Badassssss. Also, I am a musician so that baby can store my entire drum kit (7 piece) PLUS 2 people and speakers for my electonics.
Been shopping for a 4Runner the last 1.5 years, and until those prices come back down I am not the guy at MSRP + or close to MSRP used. That Luna color is my current fave.
Same thing here except I wanted new. I want dual climate control and you have to pay $50k for the limited in the 4Runner. My Tacoma cost $34k and has that much used feature. I have a topper coming in for it next week hopefully. Still cost less than a 4Runner with that add on
9:07 That explains why the steering wheel on my 2005 Toyota 4runner wobbles at 57 - 59 mph. I still don't know what needs to be done to make it stop :(
I also have both. I prefer my 4runner over the Tacoma. For me, it's the comfort in the 4runner, the rear coils over leaf springs, the seating position, and more room, and my number one for why I would pick my 4runner over my Tacoma is the J-shift. I don't care for the Toyota electronic transfer case selector in the Tacoma vs the old school shifter for the 4-wheel drive in my 4runner.
The way, I always thought it was is that the Takoma was for people with an active lifestyle, and the forerunner is for people who have an active lifestyle who has now gotten married, and had kids and can’t do what they used to do, but still like to do a little something now and then.
I so wish I could. We just paid off our RX but I need to save up for the downpayment of my next vehicle. Otherwise, I’d be buying a 2024 4Runner. I don’t like where Toyota and Lexus are heading with these new engines and powertrains.
Steering dampers help with that wobble you mentioned Jon, I don't' know if the newer Toyota's have it or they aren't robust enough. I thought Tacoma at first, then after a good hard look, I would pick the 4runner because of the more security it offers. Thanks for the update. :)
On Tacoma seating position "Desert Does It" makes a seat lift (Front Seat Jackers) for the driver's side which vastly improves the seating comfort/height. I'm 6'1" and it made a huge difference. You Tube videos on this product.
Jon, great job on this video review of these two superb Toyota vehicles! I love them both, but if I went with a Tacoma I'd get an ARB camper top. The 4 RNR is just so comfortable I'm sure, and your nearly 5-year-old TRD Pro is in such great shape! I might have to start looking in the south for one without any frame rust! FYI, you should know that some creep is putting out notices that your viewers have won a prize so do let your viewers know.
Proud owner of both. 2018 aces cab trd off-road and 2024 4Runner pro. I can’t compare them. I got the 4Runner a few weeks ago and I parked it in my garage. It does not even have 30 kms on it. lol Iove my truck and don’t want to change.
My buddy has a Tacoma and it seemed pretty small inside. I also didn’t think I needed a bed since I didn’t haul much so I took the 4Runner. I do like how you can toss anything in the bed of the Tacoma and you can put an rtt in the back instead of the roof.
Short story... I own 2010 4runner and 2020 Tacoma TRD Off Road. I prefer 4runner . I use the tacoma for truck stuff but use the 4runner more often because larger interior and much more comfortable to drive. Also when off roading the 4runner has larger wheels/tires and really enjoys the rough terrain with coil rear shocks. Either way cant go wrong
I have a 4Runner and came out of a Sequoia. I am entering my third year with the 4Runner and it keeps growing on me. It is just a rock solid vehicle. I considered getting a Tacoma, but I can carry pretty much carry any cargo I need in the 4Runner. The only thing I wish I had a truck for would be when mulching the gardens, trash runs, yard cleanup, etc.
Being a Toyota master technician, I’d say 4runner hands down. I hardly ever see an issue with the 4runner. I’ve seen Tacoma’s throw rods through the block at 4000 miles. Any time a friend asks my opinion I suggest the 4runner but encourage them to drive both to see what suits their needs better
4Runner or Tundra? Sounds like the Tacoma isn’t tops on your list. I’m currently shopping and I’d love your opinion. The advice from someone like you is invaluable to me.
@@anthonygiordano3991 Very tough, I love the room the Tundra offers and would want a long bed but don't like the gas mileage. 4runner is more practical for me as I want to adventure with it, smaller to fit in tight spaces and better mpg and should be large enough for my needs but honestly I wouldn't mind either for the right price!
@@TyrantTiger85 - Sounds like you’re definitely leaning towards the 4Runner. But, I’m in the same boat as you. Can’t do much about the MPG’s, unfortunately. But, I’m looking out for a great deal on either one.. which is not easy to find! I’m even looking out of state. Dealers don’t want to budge.
Bought my 4Runner in 2021 and so glad I chose it over the Tacoma. Had a Tacoma TRDOR rental the last two times I was in Colorado and really found it uncomfortable compared to my 4Runner. Tacome impressions: The driving position wasn't great. Felt like I was sitting on the floor. Visibility wasn't great and everything felt cramped. Biggest annoyance: the transmission! It felt like it was searching for a gear on the highway all the time. Constant upshifting to just maintain 70+ mph. The 4Runner engine/trans is so much smoother and more sure of itself. While I did think the Taco was well built and solid feeling I did miss my 4R!
Driving position wise I found the exact opposite to be true. I could never get comfortable in my 4R whereas the Taco is one of the more comfortable vehicles I've driven. In fact I just completed a 1000mil in 3day trip and there was zero fatigue. OTOH I have experienced a bit of gear hunting but only in the mountains of NH, never anywhere else. I don't buy vehicles for their power so that wasn't an issue for either the 4R or Tacoma. Zero issues for either, as compared to the two Jeeps I've had which were both disasters reliability wise, which in fact pushed me towards Toyota. I had a Blazer as well but that was a huge POS.
@@-insert- - You say you were comfortable in the Taco.. how tall are you? Im 6’ and currently shopping and doing my research here. Trying to decide between Taco, 4Runner or Tundra. Taco seems more nimble, 4Runner seems too heavy and Tundra seems too cumbersome.
@@anthonygiordano3991 I'm 5'10". I sit so my eyes are just above the midpoint of the windshield. Fairly upright, virtually no lumbar. Seat is tilted similarly to the passenger seat. As for how nimble it is that's heavily influenced by which version. I had the 4R Limited which shook my fillings loose every time I hit a bump but it was relatively nimble. I have the Off-Road Taco which I wouldn't say is all that nimble but it does feel well planted to the road. The suspension setup, weight distribution, etc., is different between the various versions for both. I picked the OR not because I do a lot of off-roading but because I liked the way it felt when compared to the other trims.
@@-insert- - Thanks for the feedback. I’m going more on feeling myself. I tend to like a sportier feel and the Taco seems like you can maneuver it a little easier than the others. I’ve just never heard anyone say they felt comfortable in a Taco. Everyone always complains about that seating position.
@@anthonygiordano3991 The Taco does have a lighter feel to it. I recall driving to DC in my 4R once (500mi) and my hands were aching due to the steering effort whereas that doesn't exist at all in my Tacoma. And comfort is very subjective. If I can drive several hundred miles with zero fatigue then I couldn't care less about the driving position (as long as it's a safe position). And I'm very picky, I've traded cars just after a few months because I couldn't get comfortable. It took about a month to find my current position. And to ensure that it doesn't ever change, except for back and forth I've actually disconnected the motors under the seat. Regardless I get your concern. I too read all the same comments regarding seating position but in the end a) you tend to hear about the bad experiences vs the good ones and b) it really does come down to how your body is constructed. Toyota continues to sell around 250k per year so conclude from that what you will.
I have a 2014 FJ TTUE which has the blue paint. Absolutely love it. Gonna replace my antique Jeep '54 CJ-3B with either a Taco or 4Runner. I'm thinking 4Runner but still on the fence. Great video. Thanks for sharing this review.
I'm 6'5" and own a 4Runner and love the seating position. I couldn't even get into my brother in laws Tacoma without whacking my knee and getting cramped to the point of I'm not sure if I could safely drive it. I did know immediately that I was scratching it off my list for potential new vehicle.
Basically same truck just depending what you want. I wanted to TRD 4Runner but that thing was crazy expensive!! I have a Tacoma I just did the upgrades myself slowly!
I would have to go with the 4runner for the simple reason that I like to travel in remote areas and I have had to sleep in my current SUV on several occassions. Oh, and for the additional reason you mentioned - taking the dogs places is a lot easier in an SUV.
You are exactly right on the 4runner steering wheel. Just bought mine over two weeks ago, and noticed some vibration going betwen 60-65, but then it gets better at 70 miles plus. Brought back to dealer, they did the tires rotation even though I asked for road force balance since some people recommend it, they said the vibration no long there, however im driving back home and notice its shaking a little bit again. I figured out its just the 4runner problem overall with bigger tires.
Had 4 tacomas and a first gen Tundra, my fave truck, have a new 4RL as the change is coming. I love this vehicle. I live above 7000feet in The Rockies.
I have owned them both and loved them both. Great vehicles. I’ve owned the TRD 4Runner for a year and that would be my choice mainly because I don’t have many truck uses that I need a flatbed for. And I put a cap on the Tacoma so I could use it as a 4Runner. So, eventually I came to my senses and got the vehicle that is designed for the purposes that I use it for. Go figure, but the 4Runner is a better SUV than the Tacoma. Who would have thought. I wish I was independently wealthy as you are, then I’d have them both. 😢
Tacoma: workman trades and motorcycle friendly; 4Runner: family and dog oriented. I've got a shell on my Tacoma, so best of both. I like being able to thow muddy shovels, rags, paint cans, sand/gravel, gas cans, odd size stuff in the truck bed, then being able to hose out.
I went with the 4runner. My dad's got a tacoma that I used a few times. The tacoma drives nicer. The 4runner is an old pig of a vehicle. The tacoma stops nicer, accelerates nicer, and just drives nicer in general. BUT, the 4runner is made better. The materials on the insider are nicer. My dad's interior feels much cheaper. The door panel is already starting to come off since there isn't a bolt behind the handle on the door interior, and its only 4 years old. The sound system on the base models are also WAY nicer on the 4runner. The tacoma also hasn't had the V6 engine and transmission that long, so it's not proven near as well as the 4runner. The engine and transmission have been the same since around 2006 I think. The 4.0 V6 is a million mile engine. That doesn't mean the tacoma is unreliable or not tough, its still a toyota, but the 4runner is a tad bit tougher, and mine tanked a 160 lbs deer straight on and still drove home with no issues. But it also depends on what you're going to use it for, and the difference in quality is minimal. Just make sure with the 4runner the tires are balanced by a good shop. If it isn't balanced, the steering wheel will wobble at higher speeds. If a shop balances it correctly, it won't happen
Had a Tacoma sold it and later bought a 4Runner. Miss my 2005 Tundra acces cab with the 4.7L engine and Solo Motorsports prerunner long travel suspension set up.
Great video - I have an older Tacoma (2008 TRD Off road w/ JBL) that I will keep, I love it. (my son will inherit it.) So I am right now looking at the 4Runner. I'm older, will do less off roading, and wanted something different, maybe a little more comfortable to drive... So I decided Ill be putting a 2023 Off Road Premium on order Monday. Just bummed of all things, why doesn't Toyota offer the JBL system in the off Road Premium!!?? (rhetorical) dumbest thing ever to only offer it in the TRD Pro and Limited!?. (ridiculous really..) Ok with that off my chest, I have one question for you, I saw you had a sort of (Canvas - looking) set of covers in the back of your 4runner. It seemed to be custom fit covering the rear seat backs and sliding rear deck. What kit is that? Id like something similar for my 4 runner, but all the weathertec - style rubber mats just dont do it for me in this area.. Can you please let us know? Thanks!..
We had a 2021 Voodoo Blue Tacoma. 2WD. SR5 trim. It was OK around town but kind of floaty on the highway at 80 or so mph. Traded it in. Probably shoulda got 4WD and higher trim level. Picked up a low mileage '17 4R Off Road Premium. Loving it much more thus far. Added Bilstein 5100s and a Westin Grill Guard. Fun off road. Better on the highway, maybe due to extra weight on the back. Only complaint is that the stock headlights are too frickin' dim.
@@RagingBad Thanks. I did exactly that! It helps. Our 4R has a 3" lift, so we also aimed the front lights down a bit. Thinking of adding PIAA or KC driving lights on the front grill guard.
@@RagingBad I've not been flashed yet with LED headlights. Maybe try to aim them a bit lower? It only takes a Phillips screwdriver to adjust the 4R front lights.
I bought a 2016 almost 7 years ago TRD OFF ROAD. I kept the truck for one year and traded it for a 2500HD(towing reasons) I liked the truck in almost every aspect except for the transmission, that was the thorn in my side, grinding noises, erratic gear changes very annoying issue! If I hadn't needed to tow higher weights I would have kept it. Nice Blue on the TACO
The issue with the wobble is the fact that the wheels are lug centric wheels. When balancing, you need a flange plate adapter (Haweka is a respectable premium brand- it turns the hub centric balancer into lug centric.). You can't properly balance a lug centric wheel on a hub centric balancer that uses a cone. Toyota should cover this and make it more well known. Even certified Toyota techs don't talk about this. Then when mounting them, torque them (SLOWLY AND GRADUALLY) in a star pattern. Edited: with (of course) the wheels off the ground until you cant. You've heard this many times, but it is very important on these vehicles. It's not a rush job. Maybe look into it and make a video please. Really like the channel. It's come a long way. Thanks again for sharing
Daily driving my 1985 Toyota 4runner SR5 5 speed sitting on 35's with 5:29 gearing and bored over 22re engine. gets 22mpg. Tried the modern 4runners and Tacomas, too many things to go wrong.
4runner SR5 w/3rd row bc I have a family. This way I have an off-road capable family vehicle (& it’s not a minivan) glad I have the cloth seats as well.
always felt like the 5ft bed was so small even for a mid size truck. My dad has a 6 ft bed like yours there and it makes a huge difference imo. I'll still take my 4runner anyday though haha.
Two happy years with a 4Runner TRD Pro. If I was still riding motorcycles off road then I would have bought the Tacoma. Always surprised how much stuff I can fit into the back of the 4Runner with the passenger seats folded down. Yes it has gotten scratched up quite a bit inside. Not often I hear the 4Runner described as a mall crawler:) Nice review though.
I just traded in my charger rt that had lifter issues at 148,000 miles for a 2019 Tacoma sr5 xp and I honestly couldn’t be happier to be back with Toyota, I look forward to having a vehicle that I know will always turn on lol
It's interesting that you prefer the Tacoma off-roading with the longer wheel base. I suppose for Florida trails that makes sense where you're probably off-roading flatter and at a higher speeds. But any type of crawling, steep or technical terrain, the shorter wheel base is awesome. You get a better breakover angle and departure angle in the 4runner. So if your looking for the slightly more capable/versatile off-road vehicle I'd choose the 4Runner. If your off-roading is Baha style, or mudding and also want the versatility of a truck the Tacoma has the advantage (and is still very good a other style of off-roading, just slightly worse at crawling and technical stuff). Both are great though. I have the 4Runner and my ex had a Tacoma. The interior space difference is pretty dramatic. The 4Runner feels like the inside of a proper truck, the Tacoma feels MUCH smaller inside. At 6' tall, I've been more comfortable road tripping my old Honda Civic then road tripping the Tacoma. I also like the 4runner without a sunroof, you get even more headroom.
I worked as a stamping operator and leadman at TABC,in Long Beach, CA. making Tacoma truck beds for 16yrs. And bought my 4runner in 1999 . I've had it since. Their both great vehicles for the buck. My choice of course the 4Runner.
Nice upload 👍🏻 Have owned both. First a 17 4Runner OR. It was a great vehicle but wasn’t the most practical (for us). Needed something easier for kayaking, landscaping & home projects/lumber. Tried to make it work with certain yakima attachments and while it did, times were a bit of a hassle, particularly when doing it solo. Tried a couple different sized trailers as well. If you don’t need to haul large/heavy items often, just end the hunt and get a 4Runner. Done. I ended up trading it for an 18 Tacoma TRD Pro manual. I wanted a bed but also wanted an off the lot, off road-ready mid sz truck. Not to mention It was actually tougher finding an OR trim in the mt/options I wanted, so I found a Pro. Really used the **** out of that bed too,as intended. It was so much easier loading and unloading things than the 4Runner. I didnt feel like I had to be so careful doing so either. The manual made it more fun to drive. But It still felt underpowered. I don’t think I would’ve gotten an auto Taco tbh. After years of ownership, it was serving me quite well. With that said, I was still never satisfied with the seating and lack of adjustment. Felt like I was too close to the floor. The driving position borderline sucked. Just awkward really. Longer trips weren’t very comfortable. And again, felt power was lacking. The mt did make it more usable. On the flip side, mpg suffered quite a bit. I just put up with it and adjusted. I know, gotta compromise. Honestly, because it I wasn’t completely satisfied, I felt I over paid. It was a great truck nonetheless and if or until it gets refreshed, it’s gone for now. I’ll probably get hate for this but whatever lol. Fast fwd a few yrs, I decided to check out the 3rd gen Frontier. Having owned a pathfinder in the past. Also know a couple people who own older gen Frontiers, so this helped with my decision as well. After 2 separate trips, spending several weeks researching and hrs in person with it, sitting, test driving etc, I ordered a Pro4x in Tactical Green. It was the same excitement as when I got my Pro, and then some. Modern yet still rugged looks. I find myself just staring at it. I get approached often by people asking about it. The zero gravity seats are absolutely incredible and so is the ride quality. Oh and the power. Its sooo appreciated. I do miss the manual at times. But this motor and 9spd actually make up for it. The led lights are awesome. I heard they were nice but damn do they light up the road. Make no mistake I have some gripes like any other vehicle. Wished ground clearance was higher. A factory lift option would be cool. No mt option, manual rear window slider, wheel options are just ok. aftermarket support is nothing like Toyota. Minor things I suppose.. I still miss my Pro at times. The taco community sometimes too. Guys, it’s ok to buy a different brand. You’ll be fine lol. Buying a vehicle is not a death sentence. You want to sell it, sell it. Want to buy, buy it. Let’s see what the next gen like but for now, loving the Pro4x, 27k mi both on/offroad & counting.
The 4Runner looks very cool! After two 4runners five Toyota trucks and two FJ‘s. The Tacoma‘s is my most favorite looking vehicle in history. That cavalry blue Toyota 4Runner is beautiful.
I'll say this, I currently have a 4runner, and I had a 2014 Tacoma, and I don't know what it is, but the Tacoma feels way more rugged and powerful as a factory 4x4 off-road vehicle by far.
Tacoma is great because I can use it off-road, towing my landscape gear with a trailer no problem, use my 6ft bed to put all my other weed Wackers and blowers
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Hey Jon I have a question. Do you know how to fix the wobble you where talking about?. I have a 22 4Runner 4X4 and that wobble bothers me a lot. I’m thinking to trade mine for a 4x2 to solve the issue. Is that the only solution ? I already replaced de needle bearing for the bushing on the differential axle on drivers side. I saw some improvement but it still wobbles.
It's like comparing Toyota to a supermarket cart. Especially chevy.
ZERO comparison.
I’d take the 4Runner. And that color is gorgeous.
@@keith2076 Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder but the most practical is white.
Have them both. The 4runner has way more versatility. You can sleep in the 4runner and if you have kids, access to a food cooler in the rear cargo area saves you from stopping to access the back. If I were single, I would take the Taco just cause I like trucks better.
Perfectly said
The Tacoma is way more versatile once you put a topper, cap, camper in the back.
@@PS987654321PS true and most people will drop $4k+ on a topper while still having a payoff balance of over 70-80% of the value of the car. But i’m with you. I will get that topper once the taco is paid off.
No vehicle made in Mexico when others are available. 4Runner is what I chose.
I'm single and carry passengers sometimes with the Tacoma double cab. I daily drive it. I've gotten in to a lot of DIY home improvement so I prefer the truck bed with a tonneau cover over they jeep suv I had before or a 4runner though either for camping trips would work fine.
had 2 tacomas, finally got a 4runner. i vote 4runner all the way, feels like being a tank
Would take Japan quality over any other in a heart beat!
which one would that be
Texas quality. These are made in San Antonio Texas
@@MrTkshiu 4runner is made in Japan. Tacoma is made in Mexico now.
@@TheRedComet1821 No only the Tundra and Sequoia is made in Texas. Tacoma used to be, but now it is made in Mexico.
@@1119-w3u damn times have changed then. My 17 taco was one of the last ones made In san Antonio.
I've had my 2023 Off Road TRD Tacoma for about 3 months now and I love everything about it.
I had both vehicles as well. For me, it came down to the rear suspension and the superiority of coil springs over leaves. The other major difference was the weight distribution in the forerunner making it a much better performer in the snow.
This is the very first time that I’ve ever seen cavalry blue and voodoo blue side-by-side they complement each other
Little bit cloudy but they are both awesome colors
The tacomas blue is too vibrant for my tastes but that 4runner blue is gorgeous
I’ve got a 2019 cavalry blue TRD OR DCLB, ~80,000 miles and no issues, it’s been a great truck, super solid, no shifting issues either and lived at altitude/mountains. just drove it ~3,500mi from CO to AK and it had no problems.
Oh heck ya!!! That’s awesome! TBH idk what it is about the long beds, maybe they don’t shift around as much?
I test drove both and I can’t get over the small size of the the cab in the Tacoma. I honestly still want one with a stick someday but I was trading in my F-150 and needed a main vehicle and to me at 6’3, the 4runner is way more comfortable to drive. Now that I’ve had my 4runner a few months, I definitely made the right decision.
Thought the same thing about Tacomas. Won't need to look at them again. Thanks!
Good call! I am 5' 11" and bought a Tacoma many years ago in 2006 and found out within a few weeks (first trip longer than 25 miles) that the seating position was pure torture. I bought the truck for great reliability of course but it soured me on Toyotas for many years. I am, however, taking a very hard look at the 4 runner based on more interior room and the fact that it is still made entirely in Japan.
damn i really wanted a tacoma but im 6'5 and were basically the same height so seeing what you said might make me choose a 4runner
Same issue. Traded in my Tacoma just due to the back seat size.
@@pennwfangod what about tundra?
I’ve had 3 tacomas in the past and my wife has a 4Runner. We recently had twins and found it difficult to put them in the back seats because of the lack of space. So I purchased a ford raptor….at first I loved it, but now I find myself wanting to go back too a Tacoma. To me, there is just no comparison too Toyota vehicles!
Why don’t house like your raptor anymore? Just curious. I’m a previous taco owner now tundra
@@josevazquez1042 the raptor is very bulky, very hard into parking spaces, and drive thrus. I just know that I won’t get the longevity as a Toyota. I purchased the raptor new 3 months ago, and I’ve already taken it to shop twice. The hinge on back door snapped, and the heating coil to the drivers seat already malfunctioned. I would totally go back to a Tacoma or 4Runner if I didn’t have a Brady bunch family lol. I would opt for a new sequoia but they are impossible to find and the wait list in my area is 2 years out.
@@capoeirask8 get a Tundra then
@@RagingBad I tried, but the dealers want to give me 20k less then what I paid for the raptor.
@ggcarreras wow that sucks, that's one of the downsides of going with other brands, good luck brother
Great comparison. Of all the brands and models on the market the choice between a Tacoma or a 4Runner seems the most prevalent and sometimes difficult for folk to decide.
We had a 2020 SR5 which was wonderful. We needed a pickup to haul stuff around, fill the back with mulch for the garden, haul lumber, etc. Recreationally as sea kayakers, campers, hikers, outdoor activities it’s perfect with a wealth of options to configure the bed for your needs. Just so much more practical. Rear passenger leg room is subjective and we would never make a decision for occasional passengers to feel more comfortable. If you have kids the room is fine. Utility, flexibility is the key.
We didn’t want to deal with another large SUV for long trips or even around town. The Tacoma stayed planted, is more nimble, and was a comfortable long-distance driver. Otherwise we would have gone with a Subaru Outback instead.
A natural selection and was perfect for our needs.
Three (3) years later we traded it in recently for a 2022 Tacoma TRD Off Road with Predator package, right at the peak of used car prices. Even with the TRD upgrade from the SR5 we almost broke even, less than a $500 difference.
Here's a tip on reducing the cost of a “higher model”. Don’t buy off the lot and pay for stuff you will never use or compromise on the color. Instead, sit down with your sales rep and order your Tacoma or 4Runner off of Toyota’s National Inventory. It arrived in 3 weeks.
Why? Because the sales rep can sit down with you and DELETE packages or items you do not want and add others you want. The result is that you get a vehicle configured to your specific needs without unnecessary overhead. It brought the cost down to an equally equipped SR5 even including the Predator package which was discounted by Toyota at the time. We also got an additional $x thousand's discount from the dealership (largest sales volume in the SE region) and a couple freebies like hats and free break-in oil change, checkup at 750 miles independent of the regular free schedule.
Timing and patience is everything, besides having a great dealership that is responsible, welcoming and knows you as a customer by name when you drop by is important to us.
There is never any reason to pay retail or above for a 4Runner or Tacoma.
Aside. For the 2022 we added a Pedal Commander. We had reservations, but my wife who always complained about the “sluggishness” loves it and drives faster than ever! With a pickup we added a gun rack for our hiking poles.
BTW, if you have a 3D Printer there are hundreds of Tacoma designed parts and accessories for all generations to print for free and you can design your own using a free “maker” license from AutoDesk Fusion 360 CAD program. I recently designed a console insert for my handgun as an example.
Search:
www.stlfinder.com and www.thingiverse.com . There are many other sites to search.
4 runner all day man the cab space in the Tacoma was just entirely too small especially if your planning on or have a family. That’s one reason.
Toyota dealership near me had my taco order in I sat for 7 months no answer with the wrong trans package installed. No remorse or even tried to come to an agreement with pricing once I went to another dealership and started looking at runners. They don’t care they just want your money. Then Aprs are through the roof right now I remember getting 2%s back in the day. Any ways buying the runner was a nightmare they went friendly and they weren’t knowledgeable about the runner with all questions I was asking. Just another job for the girl I was working with. Finally came to terms with them with what I WANTED out of the deal and we made a deal cut 5 k off the msrp of the pre installed packages which to be fair weren’t too bad, 3 things I would have had them taken off but I didn’t want to wait any longer I had already been waiting 7 months for a taco and they could have came back and said they cancelled it. Hedged my bets. But I did get the car at msrp and no mark ups except for the packages with 5k off for Toyota thon.
The 4 runner is smoother, bigger, has more room for cargo and I feel the suspension is better. Yes it’s slower but you have to drive the speed limit in CO or they will screw u bad cops don’t play out here.
The 3d print option is great I want to have my co worker make me a couple inserts for those weird cubbies that runner has
I like both.I’m also a truck guy so i choose the taco…. Im adding a sequoia next year im excited. Nice setup bud.
About a year ago I asked you this question and you asked “do you do truck stuff?”. I have been very happy with my 4Runner. Thank you
That is awesome! So glad lol
I shopped the TRD PRO Tacoma vs 4Runner. I went with the Voodoo 4Runner. I love the space and comfort of the interior. Rear window for the dog, definitely a game changer. Peace of mind I have with bullet proof reliability is also a bonus. Overall I’m very happy with the 4Runner, it has exceeded my expectations.
Voodoo is a great color. Should really make your 4R stand out
What color is Voodoo? I am still waiting on my Army Green TRd Off Road premium 😐
I'm right there with you, I got a Tacoma and I also have not had any problems or issues with it.
There are so many advantages with the 4runner. I had a road trip 2 years ago to yellowstone, 4 people. I have an enclosed carrier on my hitch for other stuff. Used a 12v fridge and another battery and kept all our food fresh even during a night rest. All our stuff are safe inside even on rainy days and accesible. If i had the tacoma, it will be a hassle for sure and the kids uncomfortable and will forever hate road trips that long. :)
It works for a family. But for singles like me, truck all the way.
I have a 2012 Trail 4Runner and I love that thing so much. I've test driven Tacoma's in the past, thinking if I had a truck I could do more hauling, but impo the 4Runner is the smoother ride and more spacious. I like the idea of a Tacoma, but I prefer the application of the 4Runner. Thank you for your video!
I have the best of both Worlds. A Tacoma for work and anything else I want to do. A 4Runner for anything else I want to do. 👍 I remember watching that 1st video you did - that's how I found your channel
I'd have a horrible time choosing between cavalry blue and voodoo blue. Love both colors!
Both such good colors.
I've had both as well..4runner all day. Just feels more solid/better built
Taco flat great but 4R is a TANK
But isn’t it true that there’s too much dip and dive when you brake? I heard it seems too heavy.. body roll issues. True?
@@anthonygiordano3991 in the SR5 yes. But it's quite a bit of body roll. I have the off-road premium with the KDSS system, the body roll doesn't exist and nosedive. Handles 50 times better
@@terrynichol577 - True, I bet that makes a huge difference. You’d definitely have to go that route with a 4Runner.
@@anthonygiordano3991 well for sure. I couldn't stand the body roll in the SR5. I mean you can fix that with the new suspension but yeah
I have both and haul a lot inside both, the went with the 4 runner for comfort modularity and made in japan, there’s a huge quality difference from the domestic NAFTA made vs quality Japanese craftsmanship.
I have a 19 TRD PRO 4runner and a 21 TRD off-road Tacoma and I definitely like the 4runner better. Looks better drives better. Haven't gotten a chance to test the Tacoma off-road as much as I have the 4runner. Overall both are great vehicles. I just prefer the 4runner if I had to choose one.
The Tacoma definitely looks better. 4Runner kinda looks like an insect from the front. And the overall stance on pick up trucks ALWAYS looks more rugged and muscular than suvs.
I had a choice between 4Runner and Taco I went 4Runner don’t regret it!
4R is OG!!! Can’t beat it!
the few things that i regret about buying a 4runner are not having it lifted and on 33s yet
I've owned a 2007 Toyota Tacoma TRD sport with a 6spd manual for the last 11 years. I have 240,000 miles on it. It burns more gas than a f150 (15 city 18 highway) but it is extremely reliable. In it's life I have had to replace the wheel bearings, the clutch, rebuild the universal joint, and do the ball joints. It definitely doesn't have the amenities of a modern truck but if you need something to get you to wherever you need to go and back again it's perfect So far it's been a great investment.
I’ve owned both and ultimately have kept and owned my 2012 TE 4runner with KDSS for 10 solid years now. For room, comfort, and solid build quality you can not go wrong with 4runner. If you need a truck buy a Tundra!
I agree totally. In the end the Tac was too small for our needs. So, we traded it in for an Ford F-450, and added a 4R. Now the wife can pack as much stuff as she wants into the big dually and I only have to go to Costco once every other month! And, we have the 4R for off-roading! Win win. 😃
Those have to be the two coolest colors I’ve ever seen. I wish I could get my Tacoma in that electric blue, wow
Only reason I initally considered the Tacoma TRD Pro over the 4runner TRD Pro was the chance to get it in manual. Ultimately, the 4.0L, better build quality, and space in the back/rear window for the dog outweighed my desire for a 6spd manual.
Yea and the 5 speed auto isn't horrible in the 4R
Yes, that’s the exact dilemma I’m going through.. I REALLY, REALLY want the manual tranny but it’s really hard to not want to get the 4 Runner since it’s such an excellent vehicle.. How do I make this decision? Any thoughts?
@@juliekavanaugh4993 honestly, even not needing the truck bed, I was pretty dead set on the manual Tacoma TRD PRO......but just driving the 4runner and comparing interiors sealed the latter as the better option. I HIGHLY recommend driving both. I'm a manual junkie (my other car is a Type R) and still picked the 4runner, it's just a much better vehicle. Honestly, if you can live without the cool colors and fancy off roady bits, a GX460 is probably the best option overall and a base model can be had for roughly what 4runner TRD PROs are going for......I just like juvenile looking bright colored cars 😂
@@GreekCarFreak Thanks for the reply.. I too am a manual junkie and really want to get another vehicle with a manual.. But we have a 2004 4Runner with nearly 200,00 miles that we bought new then and it’s been great, hence why we’re considering buying another one.. I’ve looked at the GX 460 and really like it, but the base model doesn’t come with a locking rear diff and to get that means even more money on a higher up trim and we are not exactly over flowing with money, so money is a consideration.. But if I had the money, I’d get the GX 460 no questions asked.. Their great vehicles that will last a really long time.. If only I had more money.. 🥲 But maybe I could look at a used one that’s a couple of years old with low miles that would maybe save us some money.. Thank you so much for your reply and you have a great Christmas tomorrow and a happy New Year! 😊
What do you mean better build quality?
Bought my 4Runner in 2014, no problem till now, love it!
I can only afford one. So I choose the tacoma for multipurpose. Easy to carry some oversized things like furniture etc. Easy to get things out when I go camping with kids and I don’t have to unload everything from the top or back just to get something from the bottom. SUV is just pain in the buttt when you have so much stuff to bring and you have to unload everything.
2015 4Runner, LTD, 180k miles. Only gripe is the doorlock actuators do not last long, on my third driver side and second passenger side, and neither currently work. One of the parking sonar nodules does not work. I have a bearing that needs to be replaced as well. However it pretty much drives exactly the same way as when I drove it off the lot.
The Tacoma is the favorite in Hawaii! I’ve had 2 Tacoma’s, 2003 and a 2010. Sold both of them and got a nautical blue 2019 4runner. Rides better than the Tacoma for sure!! I also had 2, 87 Toyota’s pickups back in the day. Kinda miss the Tacoma for hauling to be honest.
I got a 23 Tacoma SR5 in silver. Double cab and 6 ft bed. I use the bed all the time for tools and water containers. I can dirty it up and then its easy to just spray out at the car wash. I have already moved cabinets, furniture, and other junk with it and towed a double axle cargo trailer. Great daily driver/Work truck. Truck makes more sense for me.
I had both, sold my tacoma for a 4runner. i liked my tacoma so much more. more tech and the utility of having a bed is unbeatable. especially for people like me who go camping alot and use the bed for hauling wood and what not. 4 runner has a bit more cab room but its not enough to justify the switch. i now have a silverado but thats just my 2 cents. if torn between the two, Go tacoma.
The cabin space is a huge selling point for me. Especially since I have a kid, it’s very important she’s safe and comfortable.
My choice is the Tacoma. Still love mine after 4 years.
Own both, love ❤️ them. Got the 4 Runner before the Taco. The husband wanted a new truck, so he got the Taco. What man doesn't like tacos, lol. Plus, he lifted it and added all the extra big truck look, it looks awesome.
Right on!
I bet he goes for the fish taco’s hey? 😉 😂
4Runner. Due to it being made in Tahara factory where LC/LX are being made.
You could make like an HD 4Runner with the Taco. If you get the large cab and get a topper on the bed, you have the same or more cargo room as a 4Runner BUT without the dirtiness inside the vehicle.
I feel the 4Runner would be better off road due to less wheelbase and tighter turn radius.
Also, the Tacoma has rear c-channel frame for better off road articulation while 4Runner has fully boxed frame for more rigidity. Though KDSS is available in 4Runner.
Great video and thank you for saying that Tacoma has leather seats while 4Runner has softex. Not many people know that.
It is better, he's wrong
OUTSTANDING REVIEW. Spot on!
I own both as well. 2017 Tacoma and 2024 4Runner. LOVING the 4Runner but my Tacoma is a BEAST for wheelin. 4Runner for my long trips. Need a suspension on the 4Runner.
The seating issue of the Taco is resolved if you purchase the Frontier PRO-4X. Better mileage, better power, better interior, and have a better bed. Love the colors of your vehicles.
Hey thanks!!
great video!
Thank you!
I have had my 4Runner for 4 years, and I love it more and more each year.
Badassssss.
Also, I am a musician so that baby can store my entire drum kit (7 piece) PLUS 2 people and speakers for my electonics.
I have both. 4Runner is shorter (easier to park) and back seat is wayyyy better than taco.
But I hear 4Runner is too heavy (body roll, dip and dive issues).. true?
Great video. Intelligent speaker. Nice trucks. Nice HOUSE!
Thank you kindly!
Been shopping for a 4Runner the last 1.5 years, and until those prices come back down I am not the guy at MSRP + or close to MSRP used. That Luna color is my current fave.
Same thing here except I wanted new. I want dual climate control and you have to pay $50k for the limited in the 4Runner. My Tacoma cost $34k and has that much used feature. I have a topper coming in for it next week hopefully. Still cost less than a 4Runner with that add on
9:07 That explains why the steering wheel on my 2005 Toyota 4runner wobbles at 57 - 59 mph. I still don't know what needs to be done to make it stop :(
I also have both. I prefer my 4runner over the Tacoma. For me, it's the comfort in the 4runner, the rear coils over leaf springs, the seating position, and more room, and my number one for why I would pick my 4runner over my Tacoma is the J-shift. I don't care for the Toyota electronic transfer case selector in the Tacoma vs the old school shifter for the 4-wheel drive in my 4runner.
The way, I always thought it was is that the Takoma was for people with an active lifestyle, and the forerunner is for people who have an active lifestyle who has now gotten married, and had kids and can’t do what they used to do, but still like to do a little something now and then.
Buy Both !........before the V6 is replaced .
I so wish I could. We just paid off our RX but I need to save up for the downpayment of my next vehicle. Otherwise, I’d be buying a 2024 4Runner. I don’t like where Toyota and Lexus are heading with these new engines and powertrains.
I have both and would not drive anything but Toyota!!! You need both honestly!!
Steering dampers help with that wobble you mentioned Jon, I don't' know if the newer Toyota's have it or they aren't robust enough. I thought Tacoma at first, then after a good hard look, I would pick the 4runner because of the more security it offers. Thanks for the update. :)
Most people have been able to successfully solve the wobble problem by installing the ECGS bushing
On Tacoma seating position "Desert Does It" makes a seat lift (Front Seat Jackers) for the driver's side which vastly improves the seating comfort/height. I'm 6'1" and it made a huge difference. You Tube videos on this product.
Jon, great job on this video review of these two superb Toyota vehicles! I love them both, but if I went with a Tacoma I'd get an ARB camper top. The 4 RNR is just so comfortable I'm sure, and your nearly 5-year-old TRD Pro is in such great shape! I might have to start looking in the south for one without any frame rust! FYI, you should know that some creep is putting out notices that your viewers have won a prize so do let your viewers know.
I am starting getting same here from other videos and other topics I am watching.
Proud owner of both. 2018 aces cab trd off-road and 2024 4Runner pro. I can’t compare them. I got the 4Runner a few weeks ago and I parked it in my garage. It does not even have 30 kms on it. lol Iove my truck and don’t want to change.
My buddy has a Tacoma and it seemed pretty small inside. I also didn’t think I needed a bed since I didn’t haul much so I took the 4Runner. I do like how you can toss anything in the bed of the Tacoma and you can put an rtt in the back instead of the roof.
Nice breakdown dude! I have loved my Tacoma for over 10 years!
Short story... I own 2010 4runner and 2020 Tacoma TRD Off Road. I prefer 4runner . I use the tacoma for truck stuff but use the 4runner more often because larger interior and much more comfortable to drive. Also when off roading the 4runner has larger wheels/tires and really enjoys the rough terrain with coil rear shocks. Either way cant go wrong
I have a 4Runner and came out of a Sequoia. I am entering my third year with the 4Runner and it keeps growing on me. It is just a rock solid vehicle. I considered getting a Tacoma, but I can carry pretty much carry any cargo I need in the 4Runner. The only thing I wish I had a truck for would be when mulching the gardens, trash runs, yard cleanup, etc.
Being a Toyota master technician, I’d say 4runner hands down. I hardly ever see an issue with the 4runner. I’ve seen Tacoma’s throw rods through the block at 4000 miles. Any time a friend asks my opinion I suggest the 4runner but encourage them to drive both to see what suits their needs better
4Runner or Tundra? Sounds like the Tacoma isn’t tops on your list. I’m currently shopping and I’d love your opinion. The advice from someone like you is invaluable to me.
@@anthonygiordano3991 I'm also between 4runner and Tundra and that would be great to know.
@@TyrantTiger85 - I’m leaning towards Tundra because of the open truck bed but it’s a tough decision for sure.
@@anthonygiordano3991 Very tough, I love the room the Tundra offers and would want a long bed but don't like the gas mileage. 4runner is more practical for me as I want to adventure with it, smaller to fit in tight spaces and better mpg and should be large enough for my needs but honestly I wouldn't mind either for the right price!
@@TyrantTiger85 - Sounds like you’re definitely leaning towards the 4Runner. But, I’m in the same boat as you. Can’t do much about the MPG’s, unfortunately. But, I’m looking out for a great deal on either one.. which is not easy to find! I’m even looking out of state. Dealers don’t want to budge.
Thanks alot for this video! I've been looking at these two and couldn't decide. This helped a ton :)
Bought my 4Runner in 2021 and so glad I chose it over the Tacoma. Had a Tacoma TRDOR rental the last two times I was in Colorado and really found it uncomfortable compared to my 4Runner. Tacome impressions: The driving position wasn't great. Felt like I was sitting on the floor. Visibility wasn't great and everything felt cramped. Biggest annoyance: the transmission! It felt like it was searching for a gear on the highway all the time. Constant upshifting to just maintain 70+ mph. The 4Runner engine/trans is so much smoother and more sure of itself. While I did think the Taco was well built and solid feeling I did miss my 4R!
Driving position wise I found the exact opposite to be true. I could never get comfortable in my 4R whereas the Taco is one of the more comfortable vehicles I've driven. In fact I just completed a 1000mil in 3day trip and there was zero fatigue. OTOH I have experienced a bit of gear hunting but only in the mountains of NH, never anywhere else. I don't buy vehicles for their power so that wasn't an issue for either the 4R or Tacoma. Zero issues for either, as compared to the two Jeeps I've had which were both disasters reliability wise, which in fact pushed me towards Toyota. I had a Blazer as well but that was a huge POS.
@@-insert- - You say you were comfortable in the Taco.. how tall are you? Im 6’ and currently shopping and doing my research here. Trying to decide between Taco, 4Runner or Tundra. Taco seems more nimble, 4Runner seems too heavy and Tundra seems too cumbersome.
@@anthonygiordano3991 I'm 5'10". I sit so my eyes are just above the midpoint of the windshield. Fairly upright, virtually no lumbar. Seat is tilted similarly to the passenger seat. As for how nimble it is that's heavily influenced by which version. I had the 4R Limited which shook my fillings loose every time I hit a bump but it was relatively nimble. I have the Off-Road Taco which I wouldn't say is all that nimble but it does feel well planted to the road. The suspension setup, weight distribution, etc., is different between the various versions for both. I picked the OR not because I do a lot of off-roading but because I liked the way it felt when compared to the other trims.
@@-insert- - Thanks for the feedback. I’m going more on feeling myself. I tend to like a sportier feel and the Taco seems like you can maneuver it a little easier than the others. I’ve just never heard anyone say they felt comfortable in a Taco. Everyone always complains about that seating position.
@@anthonygiordano3991 The Taco does have a lighter feel to it. I recall driving to DC in my 4R once (500mi) and my hands were aching due to the steering effort whereas that doesn't exist at all in my Tacoma. And comfort is very subjective. If I can drive several hundred miles with zero fatigue then I couldn't care less about the driving position (as long as it's a safe position). And I'm very picky, I've traded cars just after a few months because I couldn't get comfortable. It took about a month to find my current position. And to ensure that it doesn't ever change, except for back and forth I've actually disconnected the motors under the seat. Regardless I get your concern. I too read all the same comments regarding seating position but in the end a) you tend to hear about the bad experiences vs the good ones and b) it really does come down to how your body is constructed. Toyota continues to sell around 250k per year so conclude from that what you will.
I have a 2014 FJ TTUE which has the blue paint. Absolutely love it. Gonna replace my antique Jeep '54 CJ-3B with either a Taco or 4Runner. I'm thinking 4Runner but still on the fence. Great video. Thanks for sharing this review.
I'm 6'5" and own a 4Runner and love the seating position. I couldn't even get into my brother in laws Tacoma without whacking my knee and getting cramped to the point of I'm not sure if I could safely drive it. I did know immediately that I was scratching it off my list for potential new vehicle.
Can't go wrong with either one. All comes down to what do you need more? A truck or suv?
Exactly
Basically same truck just depending what you want. I wanted to TRD 4Runner but that thing was crazy expensive!! I have a Tacoma I just did the upgrades myself slowly!
I would have to go with the 4runner for the simple reason that I like to travel in remote areas and I have had to sleep in my current SUV on several occassions. Oh, and for the additional reason you mentioned - taking the dogs places is a lot easier in an SUV.
Good choice!
You are exactly right on the 4runner steering wheel. Just bought mine over two weeks ago, and noticed some vibration going betwen 60-65, but then it gets better at 70 miles plus. Brought back to dealer, they did the tires rotation even though I asked for road force balance since some people recommend it, they said the vibration no long there, however im driving back home and notice its shaking a little bit again. I figured out its just the 4runner problem overall with bigger tires.
4runner for me built like tank no rattles off roading in the interior as well solid all the way round
Super tanky for sure
Had 4 tacomas and a first gen Tundra, my fave truck, have a new 4RL as the change is coming. I love this vehicle. I live above 7000feet in The Rockies.
Thanks for sharing!
I have owned them both and loved them both. Great vehicles. I’ve owned the TRD 4Runner for a year and that would be my choice mainly because I don’t have many truck uses that I need a flatbed for. And I put a cap on the Tacoma so I could use it as a 4Runner. So, eventually I came to my senses and got the vehicle that is designed for the purposes that I use it for. Go figure, but the 4Runner is a better SUV than the Tacoma. Who would have thought. I wish I was independently wealthy as you are, then I’d have them both. 😢
Tacoma: workman trades and motorcycle friendly; 4Runner: family and dog oriented. I've got a shell on my Tacoma, so best of both. I like being able to thow muddy shovels, rags, paint cans, sand/gravel, gas cans, odd size stuff in the truck bed, then being able to hose out.
I went with the 4runner. My dad's got a tacoma that I used a few times. The tacoma drives nicer. The 4runner is an old pig of a vehicle. The tacoma stops nicer, accelerates nicer, and just drives nicer in general. BUT, the 4runner is made better. The materials on the insider are nicer. My dad's interior feels much cheaper. The door panel is already starting to come off since there isn't a bolt behind the handle on the door interior, and its only 4 years old. The sound system on the base models are also WAY nicer on the 4runner. The tacoma also hasn't had the V6 engine and transmission that long, so it's not proven near as well as the 4runner. The engine and transmission have been the same since around 2006 I think. The 4.0 V6 is a million mile engine. That doesn't mean the tacoma is unreliable or not tough, its still a toyota, but the 4runner is a tad bit tougher, and mine tanked a 160 lbs deer straight on and still drove home with no issues. But it also depends on what you're going to use it for, and the difference in quality is minimal. Just make sure with the 4runner the tires are balanced by a good shop. If it isn't balanced, the steering wheel will wobble at higher speeds. If a shop balances it correctly, it won't happen
Had a Tacoma sold it and later bought a 4Runner. Miss my 2005 Tundra acces cab with the 4.7L engine and Solo Motorsports prerunner long travel suspension set up.
FGT is the best. Taco size bit interior space and a V8
Great video - I have an older Tacoma (2008 TRD Off road w/ JBL) that I will keep, I love it. (my son will inherit it.) So I am right now looking at the 4Runner. I'm older, will do less off roading, and wanted something different, maybe a little more comfortable to drive... So I decided Ill be putting a 2023 Off Road Premium on order Monday. Just bummed of all things, why doesn't Toyota offer the JBL system in the off Road Premium!!?? (rhetorical) dumbest thing ever to only offer it in the TRD Pro and Limited!?. (ridiculous really..)
Ok with that off my chest, I have one question for you, I saw you had a sort of (Canvas - looking) set of covers in the back of your 4runner. It seemed to be custom fit covering the rear seat backs and sliding rear deck. What kit is that? Id like something similar for my 4 runner, but all the weathertec - style rubber mats just dont do it for me in this area.. Can you please let us know? Thanks!..
Nice, great info. I'll keep my 3rd gen runner all day. But definitely entertaining a new 24 tacoma.
We had a 2021 Voodoo Blue Tacoma. 2WD. SR5 trim. It was OK around town but kind of floaty on the highway at 80 or so mph. Traded it in. Probably shoulda got 4WD and higher trim level. Picked up a low mileage '17 4R Off Road Premium. Loving it much more thus far. Added Bilstein 5100s and a Westin Grill Guard. Fun off road. Better on the highway, maybe due to extra weight on the back. Only complaint is that the stock headlights are too frickin' dim.
Get LED bulbs 🤷🏻♂️
@@RagingBad Thanks. I did exactly that! It helps. Our 4R has a 3" lift, so we also aimed the front lights down a bit. Thinking of adding PIAA or KC driving lights on the front grill guard.
@Tom C mine with the LED's are very bright, people sometimes flash at me thinking my high beam is on lol I'm definitely dreaming with the KC's
@@RagingBad I've not been flashed yet with LED headlights. Maybe try to aim them a bit lower? It only takes a Phillips screwdriver to adjust the 4R front lights.
@@tomc8115 I will 👍🏼
I bought a 2016 almost 7 years ago TRD OFF ROAD. I kept the truck for one year and traded it for a 2500HD(towing reasons) I liked the truck in almost every aspect except for the transmission, that was the thorn in my side, grinding noises, erratic gear changes very annoying issue! If I hadn't needed to tow higher weights I would have kept it. Nice Blue on the TACO
Both look very nice but I like the Tacoma better 😎👍🏼
I have both and they are great ! I agree with this review after 3 years of ownership !
The issue with the wobble is the fact that the wheels are lug centric wheels. When balancing, you need a flange plate adapter (Haweka is a respectable premium brand- it turns the hub centric balancer into lug centric.). You can't properly balance a lug centric wheel on a hub centric balancer that uses a cone. Toyota should cover this and make it more well known. Even certified Toyota techs don't talk about this. Then when mounting them, torque them (SLOWLY AND GRADUALLY) in a star pattern. Edited: with (of course) the wheels off the ground until you cant. You've heard this many times, but it is very important on these vehicles. It's not a rush job. Maybe look into it and make a video please. Really like the channel. It's come a long way. Thanks again for sharing
Not sure if you have them backwards but Toyota uses hub centric
I just got a 23 Tacoma SR double cab with 4x4 and v6 for 34k out the door. It’s a solid 10-15k cheaper than 4Runners. That’s my main difference.
Daily driving my 1985 Toyota 4runner SR5 5 speed sitting on 35's with 5:29 gearing and bored over 22re engine. gets 22mpg. Tried the modern 4runners and Tacomas, too many things to go wrong.
Wow! The video I could only dream of. How did you know I was cross shopping these 2.
It’s really tough decision. I have Tacoma and want to rent out 4Runner and see what drives smoother on road and off road. On road more. Nice rig jon.
4runner SR5 w/3rd row bc I have a family. This way I have an off-road capable family vehicle (& it’s not a minivan) glad I have the cloth seats as well.
always felt like the 5ft bed was so small even for a mid size truck. My dad has a 6 ft bed like yours there and it makes a huge difference imo. I'll still take my 4runner anyday though haha.
Great info. Thanks. I am looking for new vehicle and lean towards 4Runner.
Good choice!
Two happy years with a 4Runner TRD Pro. If I was still riding motorcycles off road then I would have bought the Tacoma. Always surprised how much stuff I can fit into the back of the 4Runner with the passenger seats folded down. Yes it has gotten scratched up quite a bit inside. Not often I hear the 4Runner described as a mall crawler:) Nice review though.
I just traded in my charger rt that had lifter issues at 148,000 miles for a 2019 Tacoma sr5 xp and I honestly couldn’t be happier to be back with Toyota, I look forward to having a vehicle that I know will always turn on lol
It's interesting that you prefer the Tacoma off-roading with the longer wheel base. I suppose for Florida trails that makes sense where you're probably off-roading flatter and at a higher speeds. But any type of crawling, steep or technical terrain, the shorter wheel base is awesome. You get a better breakover angle and departure angle in the 4runner. So if your looking for the slightly more capable/versatile off-road vehicle I'd choose the 4Runner. If your off-roading is Baha style, or mudding and also want the versatility of a truck the Tacoma has the advantage (and is still very good a other style of off-roading, just slightly worse at crawling and technical stuff). Both are great though.
I have the 4Runner and my ex had a Tacoma. The interior space difference is pretty dramatic. The 4Runner feels like the inside of a proper truck, the Tacoma feels MUCH smaller inside. At 6' tall, I've been more comfortable road tripping my old Honda Civic then road tripping the Tacoma. I also like the 4runner without a sunroof, you get even more headroom.
I worked as a stamping operator and leadman at TABC,in Long Beach, CA. making Tacoma truck beds for 16yrs. And bought my 4runner in 1999 . I've had it since. Their both great vehicles for the buck. My choice of course the 4Runner.
Nice upload 👍🏻
Have owned both. First a 17 4Runner OR. It was a great vehicle but wasn’t the most practical (for us). Needed something easier for kayaking, landscaping & home projects/lumber. Tried to make it work with certain yakima attachments and while it did, times were a bit of a hassle, particularly when doing it solo. Tried a couple different sized trailers as well. If you don’t need to haul large/heavy items often, just end the hunt and get a 4Runner. Done.
I ended up trading it for an 18 Tacoma TRD Pro manual. I wanted a bed but also wanted an off the lot, off road-ready mid sz truck. Not to mention It was actually tougher finding an OR trim in the mt/options I wanted, so I found a Pro. Really used the **** out of that bed too,as intended. It was so much easier loading and unloading things than the 4Runner. I didnt feel like I had to be so careful doing so either. The manual made it more fun to drive. But It still felt underpowered. I don’t think I would’ve gotten an auto Taco tbh. After years of ownership, it was serving me quite well. With that said, I was still never satisfied with the seating and lack of adjustment. Felt like I was too close to the floor. The driving position borderline sucked. Just awkward really. Longer trips weren’t very comfortable. And again, felt power was lacking. The mt did make it more usable. On the flip side, mpg suffered quite a bit. I just put up with it and adjusted. I know, gotta compromise. Honestly, because it I wasn’t completely satisfied, I felt I over paid. It was a great truck nonetheless and if or until it gets refreshed, it’s gone for now.
I’ll probably get hate for this but whatever lol. Fast fwd a few yrs, I decided to check out the 3rd gen Frontier. Having owned a pathfinder in the past. Also know a couple people who own older gen Frontiers, so this helped with my decision as well. After 2 separate trips, spending several weeks researching and hrs in person with it, sitting, test driving etc, I ordered a Pro4x in Tactical Green. It was the same excitement as when I got my Pro, and then some. Modern yet still rugged looks. I find myself just staring at it. I get approached often by people asking about it. The zero gravity seats are absolutely incredible and so is the ride quality. Oh and the power. Its sooo appreciated. I do miss the manual at times. But this motor and 9spd actually make up for it. The led lights are awesome. I heard they were nice but damn do they light up the road. Make no mistake I have some gripes like any other vehicle. Wished ground clearance was higher. A factory lift option would be cool. No mt option, manual rear window slider, wheel options are just ok. aftermarket support is nothing like Toyota. Minor things I suppose..
I still miss my Pro at times. The taco community sometimes too. Guys, it’s ok to buy a different brand. You’ll be fine lol. Buying a vehicle is not a death sentence. You want to sell it, sell it. Want to buy, buy it.
Let’s see what the next gen like but for now, loving the Pro4x, 27k mi both on/offroad & counting.
K9,
The 4Runner looks very cool! After two 4runners five Toyota trucks and two FJ‘s. The Tacoma‘s is my most favorite looking vehicle in history. That cavalry blue Toyota 4Runner is beautiful.
Good choice!
Wish the 4Runner had a manual option :[
I'll say this, I currently have a 4runner, and I had a 2014 Tacoma, and I don't know what it is, but the Tacoma feels way more rugged and powerful as a factory 4x4 off-road vehicle by far.
Tacoma is great because I can use it off-road, towing my landscape gear with a trailer no problem, use my 6ft bed to put all my other weed Wackers and blowers
Yea utility of a truck is great.
bought a 2024 4 runner several months ago. LOVE IT
Nice! Congrats
Tacoma for single men. 4runner for married men.
Too true
True. Im a family man and got the 4runner and love it but deep down I want a tacoma for myself lol
Pretty acurate 😂
Nah 4 runner for everyone only one still.made and assembled in Japan. Tacoma is a piece of shit made in Mexico
Single dad w/ two kids?
100% 4 runner for sure over the tacoma .....
Great choice!