Even without attacking with the nazgul, if he had saced a creature to the tower then it would net him an extra mana which means they would only have 1 card either in hand or on board, presumably the 12/12. With the way the life totals were and what he had in hand I think it would have been better to force them to hedge everything on the 1 creature than to let them play out all their stuff.
…Why would you shorten it to “Torment?” There’s _13_ cards with the word “torment” in their name (and 3 “torment of” cards from Hour, as well as _30_ cards that include “torment” in general). But there’s only a single Hailfire in the whole game. Ain’t that a better way to shorten it?
@@CrusinaYep! I spent 9 of my 100+ uncommon wildcards on one of each art. Just open the little browser option on the card when you select it for your deck and make sure craft is on.
18:20: PSA for any 'draft' cards. If you right click the card it'll bring up the card to examine more closely and you can cycle through all the cards in that card's spellbook.
In that second game, attack with Nazgûl makes them either chump with ghalta and you just play it out how you did with a likelihood of not dying, or they face an x=11 torment leaving them with no non lands and no cards in hand at 3 life
(well actually voice) Gollum Patient Plotter depicts Gollum in the cave Bilbo meets him in in The Hobbit, whereas Smeagol Helpful Guide depicts the reformed 'Smeagol' who guides Sam and Frodo, so technically the Gollum card does come before the Smeagol card, unless you use the alternate art version of Gollum that depicts him (presumably) in Mount Doom!
@@BrewersKitchen Based on the past that is a guarantee, even if it's not similar at all. Your videos are the best parts of goldfish for me. But seriously rata not caring if the legends are tokens makes it really great with the ring temps you.
15:17, to answer your question Seth, yes, you should've tormented X=11. Opponent had 6 cards in hand, 4 permanents and 9 life. to stay alive, they would've needed to discard their whole hand, sac 3 things and lose 6 life to go to 3 and end up with only one permanent (probably Ghalta but it wasn't lethal then).
And before that, swing with the Nazgul which they would have needed to either trade Ghalta (unlikely) or take the 3. Taking he 3 means they have to sac everything to not die to the Torment outright. And blocking means they keep thrun lose their hand and go to 3.
There is an infinite combo with him. The landfall creature that tempts if u have no rin bearer, plus a sac outlet, plus scute Swarm or and landfall creature maker. You temp, trigger smeagol, sac ring bearer(not smeagol, scute or any other important piece), get land and trigger for the tempt, rinse and repeat
I don’t understand why he blocked with gollum in the end of the last match thinking Bombadil’s song would save, it had first strike and deathtouch, not sure why the opponent scooped either
So for historic brawl, it’s only big atraxa that’s in the op pool, not regular one. It’s kept in check by everybody playing super friends and just dying to aggro with it.
I play against big Atraxa all the time with a variety of decks. It's sadly not in the busted pile (might be to weak for the OP meta not sure but god does it wreck all my midrangy decks lacking counterspells)
@@Aronia55 when queues slow down it can sneak into other queues just bc of the massive amount of meta share it has, the pools arent strict if youre waiting for a minute or so itll just pop you into a random opp, but if you try playing atraxa youll notice that 70+% of games are mirror matches or ragavan, and youll know.
53:27 I love how ironically seth punted here as the first striker had death touch so bombadil would not save his smeagol yet the opponent i guess was so impressed with his song he had to concede
If he would’ve used the phytexian tower sacrificing the Nazgûl, and used the ashnods altar sacraficing the smegol, he could’ve cast torment and made the opponent sacrifice both their creatures and made them discard all h Their cards making it so lethal wouldn’t take place
You need to try a Dimir Mouth of Sauron historic brawl deck! I've been having using lots of interaction to set up a repeatable massive army threat to finish out the deck
FYI, you can click a card, then right click through its spellbook without having to search it. Also this seems like a shoe-in deck for Rise of the Dark Realms.
I think there's a strong argument for Ratadrabik to be a strong Nazgul commander as well? Since, w/ Ratadrabik, Nazgul, and a free sac outlet, you can make an infinitely large Nazgul - potentially at instant speed! Due to being the Ringbearer making you legendary, you can then sac the legendary Nazgul to make a token copy - and repeat ad infinitum!! It gets even more absurd if you have any kind of token doubler, like Mondrak, which also works with Ratadrabik for other nonsense!!
You early scooped again at 49:00. You could have played Witch-king of Angmar. Unless he could proliferate an additional two times on his turn, you survived with 8 or maybe 9 poison counters. And if you block the Voidwing, you force a sac of his last token off Skrelv's Hive so he has only the one generated that turn remaining. It buys you at least one extra turn, which could have been enough depending on top deck. This is moot if he had one proliferate spell and a removal for Witch-King, but he didn't have determined lethal, only possible.
I do not think Atraxa is actually in the "Hell queue" of Historic Brawl, I stopped playing the format because she seemed to be at least 50% of the meta regardless of which deck I played.
Now you see the reason I stopped playing Brawl?? We live in a time with an insane amount of legendary creatures, yet almost the only thing you see is Atraxa, Sauron, smeagol and sometimes an aragorn. it's so boring.
Will this deck works in regular commander? I don't mean for a super competitive one, but enough to make us play a fun game in a pod without dying pretty prematurely
Shadow of the enemy really sucks when you think about it. Rise of the dark realm is one more mana... shadow of the enemy you still have to pay for each creature
I got a shadow of the enemy in a draft pool recently, pack one pick one, so I went hard mono-black and did okay, but MVP was absolutely shadow of the enemy, it either allowed me to replay all the creatures my opponent spent turns killing, or let me play all my opponent's best dead creatures. Honestly I mostly cast it on myself, but I did use it on a couple of opponents, still worked to give me a ton of late-game gas.
Altar of demencia+dunedain ranger+scuttleswarm+Smeagol with 6 Land is a take all Lands from your opponent library and probably mill them with one Land trigger. You make a token the ring bearer, sac it before Smeagol trigger resolve, Land come into play, new token, ring it, sac it in response and repeat
The Torment on the second game may have not killed but still set you up for not dying.
And he could've attacked with the nazgul for another 3 damage which wouldn't have been blocked because of deathtouch.
@@sampletext6297 or would have killed the creature that killed him
Even without attacking with the nazgul, if he had saced a creature to the tower then it would net him an extra mana which means they would only have 1 card either in hand or on board, presumably the 12/12. With the way the life totals were and what he had in hand I think it would have been better to force them to hedge everything on the 1 creature than to let them play out all their stuff.
…Why would you shorten it to “Torment?” There’s _13_ cards with the word “torment” in their name (and 3 “torment of” cards from Hour, as well as _30_ cards that include “torment” in general). But there’s only a single Hailfire in the whole game. Ain’t that a better way to shorten it?
@@gaminggeckos4388 But with the context of watching the game, there’s no room for confusion
My only complaint is not using the 9 different arts for Nazgul. Truly a flavor fail
Is it even possible to do that on arena? Dark technology and all
@@CrusinaYep! I spent 9 of my 100+ uncommon wildcards on one of each art. Just open the little browser option on the card when you select it for your deck and make sure craft is on.
youre lying, they arent wildcards. theyre cosmetics and theyre like 5k gold a piece.
@@JesseS. they are 100% wildcards
18:20: PSA for any 'draft' cards. If you right click the card it'll bring up the card to examine more closely and you can cycle through all the cards in that card's spellbook.
Good shit ma boi 💪🏾
In that second game, attack with Nazgûl makes them either chump with ghalta and you just play it out how you did with a likelihood of not dying, or they face an x=11 torment leaving them with no non lands and no cards in hand at 3 life
“I’m an expert on Lord of the Rings now” into “Gollum is the before picture” is the expertise I live for
(well actually voice) Gollum Patient Plotter depicts Gollum in the cave Bilbo meets him in in The Hobbit, whereas Smeagol Helpful Guide depicts the reformed 'Smeagol' who guides Sam and Frodo, so technically the Gollum card does come before the Smeagol card, unless you use the alternate art version of Gollum that depicts him (presumably) in Mount Doom!
I really hope you'll play a Ratadrabik + the ring temps you historic brawl. It's so great with boromir and a bunch of lotr cards.
It's not exactly this, but I think you'll like my next video 😅
@@BrewersKitchen Based on the past that is a guarantee, even if it's not similar at all. Your videos are the best parts of goldfish for me.
But seriously rata not caring if the legends are tokens makes it really great with the ring temps you.
@@rupert7565 Thank you! ☺
@@BrewersKitchenoooo I’m excited
Made a deck like this and damn. 10 redundant combo pieces is nuts
SO GLAD HB IS BACK!!
Yes!
19:26 Faceless Haven remains the Ringbearer even when it's not a creature. Interesting.
15:17, to answer your question Seth, yes, you should've tormented X=11. Opponent had 6 cards in hand, 4 permanents and 9 life. to stay alive, they would've needed to discard their whole hand, sac 3 things and lose 6 life to go to 3 and end up with only one permanent (probably Ghalta but it wasn't lethal then).
And before that, swing with the Nazgul which they would have needed to either trade Ghalta (unlikely) or take the 3. Taking he 3 means they have to sac everything to not die to the Torment outright. And blocking means they keep thrun lose their hand and go to 3.
There is an infinite combo with him. The landfall creature that tempts if u have no rin bearer, plus a sac outlet, plus scute Swarm or and landfall creature maker. You temp, trigger smeagol, sac ring bearer(not smeagol, scute or any other important piece), get land and trigger for the tempt, rinse and repeat
I don’t understand why he blocked with gollum in the end of the last match thinking Bombadil’s song would save, it had first strike and deathtouch, not sure why the opponent scooped either
I think both players thought it grants Indestructible?
how does hand of enlightenment have deathtouch??
14:30 should have definitely casted the torment
8:38 You had protection ;-;
He wanted to get rid of his commander, since Seth can recast his and the opponent can not.
@@deadded5793 Seth literally said "This feels bad."
@@smegmalasagna and then said we have to trade because he was ahead on mana
So for historic brawl, it’s only big atraxa that’s in the op pool, not regular one. It’s kept in check by everybody playing super friends and just dying to aggro with it.
I play against big Atraxa all the time with a variety of decks. It's sadly not in the busted pile (might be to weak for the OP meta not sure but god does it wreck all my midrangy decks lacking counterspells)
@@Aronia55 when queues slow down it can sneak into other queues just bc of the massive amount of meta share it has, the pools arent strict if youre waiting for a minute or so itll just pop you into a random opp, but if you try playing atraxa youll notice that 70+% of games are mirror matches or ragavan, and youll know.
I like adding Ich-Tekik and the other Splicers into the deck because Smeagol is the best Gollem commander.
Definitely one of the coolest commanders from the set! More Brawl content in the future also please
53:27 I love how ironically seth punted here as the first striker had death touch so bombadil would not save his smeagol yet the opponent i guess was so impressed with his song he had to concede
Love all the Smeagol decks from mtggoldfish
Get on that brawl train!
Make the format more popular!
Eldritch Pact: Are you sure you want to win the game?
If this deck has a mill theme, wouldn’t you say the Sword of Body and Mind synergizes well with the deck? Checkmate Seth! >:D
Sad that Seth missed an opportunity to comment on how he was being murdered by a murder of crows
If he would’ve used the phytexian tower sacrificing the Nazgûl, and used the ashnods altar sacraficing the smegol, he could’ve cast torment and made the opponent sacrifice both their creatures and made them discard all h
Their cards making it so lethal wouldn’t take place
why does he talk like a teenage girl working a 9 to 5 shift at starbucks in a rich neighborhood
The torment second game would have totally saved you an you could have presented lethal next turn if they didn't draw a creature that was playable
Why wouldn't you torment there? They'd be at 3 and have no nonland permanents or cards in hand.
why not use 1 of each nazgul instead of 9 of the same? just need to click the arrow on the card when putting it in the deck
The Smeagol voice alone deserves a like! Well done, Seth! 😂
8:38 why did he block doesn't he have protection from everything
Why no binding the old gods? That card looks awesome in every aspect in this deck
When I face old Atraxa in historic brawl, I'm just relieved it's not new Atraxa.
You need to try a Dimir Mouth of Sauron historic brawl deck! I've been having using lots of interaction to set up a repeatable massive army threat to finish out the deck
Dundain with a Sac outlet and ScuteSwarm goes infinite with smeagol (mills out the opps. deck) :O
You can hear the trauma in Seth's voice when he talks about losing to birds.
FYI, you can click a card, then right click through its spellbook without having to search it. Also this seems like a shoe-in deck for Rise of the Dark Realms.
I think there's a strong argument for Ratadrabik to be a strong Nazgul commander as well? Since, w/ Ratadrabik, Nazgul, and a free sac outlet, you can make an infinitely large Nazgul - potentially at instant speed! Due to being the Ringbearer making you legendary, you can then sac the legendary Nazgul to make a token copy - and repeat ad infinitum!! It gets even more absurd if you have any kind of token doubler, like Mondrak, which also works with Ratadrabik for other nonsense!!
You early scooped again at 49:00. You could have played Witch-king of Angmar. Unless he could proliferate an additional two times on his turn, you survived with 8 or maybe 9 poison counters. And if you block the Voidwing, you force a sac of his last token off Skrelv's Hive so he has only the one generated that turn remaining. It buys you at least one extra turn, which could have been enough depending on top deck.
This is moot if he had one proliferate spell and a removal for Witch-King, but he didn't have determined lethal, only possible.
I do not think Atraxa is actually in the "Hell queue" of Historic Brawl, I stopped playing the format because she seemed to be at least 50% of the meta regardless of which deck I played.
I don't know why, but every time you say "Tom Bombadil," it gets funnier. I burst out laughing when you said "Tom Bomba-dahle" 🤣
Now you see the reason I stopped playing Brawl?? We live in a time with an insane amount of legendary creatures, yet almost the only thing you see is Atraxa, Sauron, smeagol and sometimes an aragorn. it's so boring.
Will this deck works in regular commander? I don't mean for a super competitive one, but enough to make us play a fun game in a pod without dying pretty prematurely
This is the worst Gollum impression I've ever heard. I'm in awe. (Also, fun video! Nice to see some Historic Brawl on here.)
Shadow of the enemy really sucks when you think about it. Rise of the dark realm is one more mana... shadow of the enemy you still have to pay for each creature
If youd sacced both creatures, the torment would have put them to 3 with no hand and no board. Not precisely lethal, but close enough
TIL, if a Man-Land becomes the Ring-Bearer, it remains so even when it stops being a creature.
I queued an opponent playing bombadil at the same time as you and i fr thought i died and came back as saffron olive
We wants it
By far the strongest ring tempts you commander/nazgul commander is ratadrabik of urborg
infinite mill combo with dunedain raiders, scute swarm and a sac outlet makes mill an actual wincon.
Not sure where you keep getting this 's' for the Nazgûl from. :^)
"We get protection so we are no dying to the windgracer" Blocks anyway jajajajjaaja
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I dont think that brawl Is the MOST popular choice for a video
I would put rise of the dark realms in over the similar LOTR card
"are we killing the mana dork" BOLT THE BIRD!
Imagine if Andy Circus became a pro player outta nowhere
seth, should i spend my wildcards on this? please and thank you.
I'm really disappointed you used the same art for all 9 nazgul
4 mana Atraxa isn't a very good commander in 1v1 compared to the 7 mana one
Herald of Leshrak would be a powerhouse in this deck.
I got a shadow of the enemy in a draft pool recently, pack one pick one, so I went hard mono-black and did okay, but MVP was absolutely shadow of the enemy, it either allowed me to replay all the creatures my opponent spent turns killing, or let me play all my opponent's best dead creatures. Honestly I mostly cast it on myself, but I did use it on a couple of opponents, still worked to give me a ton of late-game gas.
Altar of demencia+dunedain ranger+scuttleswarm+Smeagol with 6 Land is a take all Lands from your opponent library and probably mill them with one Land trigger. You make a token the ring bearer, sac it before Smeagol trigger resolve, Land come into play, new token, ring it, sac it in response and repeat
is there a list for that mono W draw go deck? please please please?
37:19 He says, seconds before it DOES, in fact, end.
Very happy to see more Historic Brawl content. Since Wizards ruined regular Historic for me, HB is my favorite format on Arena.
Maybe it's a bit late but can you play standard brawl with Ovika Convoke?, seems like a cool against the odds deck
Wash away is actually insane. Without playing cleave it's 1 mana stop commander, with paying its a generic 3 mana counter.
Would Rise of the Witch-king be a good thing for this
This deck made me hate brawl even more than I already do.
Played against this Smeagol in Historic Brawl. Probably one of my worst matches ever. This card is boosted.
Sauron the necromancer would really help by bringing back Nazgûl and getting another trigger every attack.
This Atraxa isn't hellqueue, it's the other Atraxa that is
Seth trying to do the voice repeatedly had me dying.
since when is there commander in MTGA? :O
Please build a deck around palantir of orthanc
@ :28
What Smeagol does
What Smeagol wants
Whatever make Smeagol happy sets you free.
I realy want to see Smeagol deck a mana less dregg deck
dunedain rangers also lets you tempt on landfall.
This is the most pile of cards I have ever seen
Great deck! Good to see you playing this format Seth! Can’t wait to see more
Love it when Seth plays Brawl. He's having so much fun with it!
the biggest punt i've ever seen Seth make was thinking that Historic Brawl is a casual format where you can do janky things.
We can have little a brawl, as a treat! =)
Why will mtg arena not let me play brawl
I feel like syr konrad would have been a perfect fit for this deck
Toxic is a terrible mechanic.
What is the draft token in the back? I have never seen one with lightning
Please make a ratadrabik deck with the ring tempts you!
I hope someday you will play Smeagol in commanderclash
I think you needed to also attack with the nazgul on the ghalta game
you can QQ to tap all the manas
Happy to see its brawl! I’m excited for this video.
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more brawl content please!
I love the brawl content!
Where is skyclave shade?
Seth's irrational hatred for poison continues 😂
I want more Phil.
So happy the content creators started to post the Smeagol decks :)
I love that Seth also appreciates the Mark Riddick lands ❤