The A770 is as good as the 3060, while costing less, but consuming as much power as the 3060Ti/3070, which is the limit for acceptable power consumption, so I'd say it's a small win.
Everyone except fanboy idiots wants Intel to get better, we really need a third player and Intel won't do wonders with their first generation, nobody will. They will get better over time, assuming they don't pull out of the GPU game entirely.
Yeah me too, but I think intel will do the usual intel thing and cancel ARC because it's first gen wasn't an immediate cash cow. Even though they have some of the best engineers in the world, econmic pressure will probably prevail
Apex Legends is now testing a dx12 mode that you can enable by putting "-eac_launcher_settings SettingsDX12.json" in the launch options, its currently not very stable but it might be worth giving a try with these intel gpus
I might grab it as a secondary GPU for AV1 decoding. It seems like a nice little addition in the case that won't consume much power while streaming and recording
It's so cute xD I am so happy Intel is finally getting into the GPU market, while it's understandable they aren't that good yet (although their top end one does compete and even surpass the 3060/6600 in some games and is a decent card) if we consider its their first consumer discreet GPU it's pretty good for a first run, in time they're probably going to be very competitive and we as the cosummers only have more to gain more competition.
careful with the buzzword 'competition', competition work isn't because it is a competition, it works because of private ownership principle and voluntary transaction. Don't be one of those 'right to repair' people who only parrot the word competition but never ask why competition among government owned companies doesn't work (ignoring 'uniting multiple companies' under government to create combined result never work).
@@unlockeduk Considering the amount of work it took to make it this far... That would be a great loss to Intel! They've been working on these cards for upwards of a decade... 5 years ago, we knew they were coming "eventually".
but have been drivers fixed? last time I checked most recording and encoding capabilities were broken anyways. so your 6900XT despite not being great would do much better than A380 in most encoding tasks until intel fix their stuff
I've seen a lot people doing this having the card and using it just for the AV1 encoder, the next gen cards will all have this as basic thankfully but if your not planning on a GPU upgrade anytime soon this is defo the way to go
If it becomes beneficial for a Plex server over my server's GTX 1650 for transcoding, I'll definitely end up getting one. I could see lots of them selling just to use as transcoder cards, even if the gaming performance isn't fantastic.
So as far as gaming performance, it’s basically a 1650 Super…I had a 1650 Super on my old rig but built a new one. Basically all my old components got reused except that I added the A380. Ran a few games and basically got same performance
Reviews like yours and from many techtubers and even from people that aren't very tech savvy, is exactly what Intel needs to gather more and more information and feedback regarding the performance of the cards, how to improve the drivers and many more. I prefer AMD cards in general but, I'm really eager to see Intel gpus expanding and becoming more competitive
Honestly, I am absolutely pumped to see what Battlemage will bring to the table. I am glad that intel is throwing down in the ring and I genuinely hope they do well with the next drop. I am not dissuaded that they will eventually kill the mid-tier market in the coming years.
Would be great if you can show the power consumption of the card during gaming. The cooler doesn't look like he can handle the 8 pin power connector :D
@@alinzelnan yep, just for a bit of safety should someone overclock it. Honestly doubt it's even taking the slot spec of 75w... looks like a 30-50w card.
@@anasevi9456 still too tall for my system. And too wide. Why won't someone put out a decent SSLP card? That's the only reason the RX 6400 is even worth a look. The T600/T1000 are good but way too expensive (after all these years, still).
I’ve been really happy with my Arc A750, but could never manage to get the A380 I tried to behave stably. Maybe I got a bad one, or maybe the drivers were just that rough in the first month. Glad to see it make an appearance here - I do hope the drivers continue to improve so the hardware can shine as brightly in older titles as it manages in newer ones.
As a daily driver of a A370m, it is surprisingly good when it works and yes there are loads of bugs, but it have been getting significantly better in the last 2 months. however, updating drivers is still currently a bit of a pain. since they are about 1.2GB in size and the installer can crash your system and takes a long time. For the power draws it is very nice for a mobile part since it allowed your CPU to have more power budget.
I think there's potential here in the future with Intel. There's almost no one else who could do this and pull it off as relatively well as Intel has so here's to hoping they keep at it. Also, I'd love to see a ray tracing comparison video between this gpu and maybe a 6600 or even a RX 6500xt, you know, for the lols.
I'd love to see a Raytracing demonstration with this card, would also make for an exciting future video to revisit the same titles and see how much the RT performance has improved after a couple months / a year
Ah finally, Intel ARC gets another spotlight in your channel, have you seen the Acer Intel Arc A770 yet, the design is very unique! I would like to see your view on this card if you decide on getting it!
l really hope you see this, because I know if anyone will test a sensible budget setup with this card and something like a 12100f and some decent ddr4 ram it's you. It would be great to see if in the most popular games people actually play right now, how good it can be
1650LP or 6400 are better. I have the 6400 and it require no connector, is small, good temps, runs everything at 1080p in medium, I even have Spiderman and God of War on it and looks good, Halo Infinite can be capped at 55 fps with around 80% render resolution and it's stable, all the competitives go smooth and overall is amazing.
@@erickalvarez6486 I really do hope we get more LP cards on the market. there are RTX 3060 6 GB cards coming out of china that are mobile variants bonded to a PBC on a graphics card running really close to 75 watts. really hope Nvidia release an official one.
@@erickalvarez6486 yeah, I mainly just want an Arc card just for the sake of having an Arc card lol. Definitely some better options out there especially LP wise. I have a 3080 in my main rig which is technically an ITX build but it's a Thermaltake P1 so not really a small ITX build lol.
I wanna trust that intel will keep at it and make their graphics cards better. But as a video editor I already know of their other types of products like the Optane drives which were genuinely good when they came out, this release is commendable at best.
Having a third manufacturer of gaming cards is great. But the problem is it's Intel. They're not known for cheap, good, reliable things. And if they do anything that's good, you can expect the price to be well outside the value of it. It is only AMD that is keeping the others honest.
Intel have to compete in the low end GPU space because AMD and Nvidia are not at the moment, and they know their software needs to be improved so they can't go big. AMD are very much not offering budget options with their new GPUs.
@@Safetytrousers; True. At the moment they are going toe to toe with each other. But AMD sometimes drop their prices in a bid to outmanoeuvre NVIDIA and at those times you can get some pretty good bargains.
it's so funny I always watch your video's and half the time I will be looking at something then your video pops up and you're looking at the same thing as well.🤣
i really cant think of a better cheaper sff gpu thats brand new, its honestly amazing for the price, with a £200 budget you can get a optiplex and the gpu and prob a 1tb hdd and boom you have a competent gaming pc for a fraction if you were to build a budget pc from the ground up
The drivers are already improving hugely on a week to week basis. I've seen 30%+ boosts to DX9/11 performance on my A770 with the Oct 27th beta drivers.
By the time they sell this card new for €100 it will worth the price, if the drivers get sorted out. Used gpus giving the same performance cost like €50. Lets hope intel will sort the driver issues soon.
@n n I just brought it up since he was already using fsr to boost performance on those two games in this video. Seemed like a good moment to show how xess did with this card.
@n n I get it, you don't value upscaling tech, a lot of peole do though. All I'm saying is MW2 and Spiderman have xess support. Considering it's supposed to be comparable to dlss 2/fsr 2 when run on an Arc card, it would have made more sense for him to use Xess instead of fsr.
@n n ok, how is that relevant here? All I said was "why not show xess since you're already using fsr in this video?" Do you see how what you are saying is a separate topic? You're just saying he shouldn't show any upscaling. That has nothing to do with my suggestion in the context of his video. Also, if there's a feature that improves performance while essentially serving as a better Anti-aliasing solution, you don't think that's relevant to a gpu review? I sure do. In the case of games I play, I always use either fsr 2 quality or dlss 2 quality since it does look better than native with TAA 90% of the time. FSR 1 and NIS are not very good, I do prefer native over those.
@n n well obviously you show the base results, but if your gpu has a special feature that works specifically on that gpu like dlss or xess (which works much better on arc cards even though it's universally compatible) you show that too.
You know, I might actually pick one of these up. Not for gaming, but for the video encoding. Currently rocking a 3060 and while the encoding is pretty good on it, I hear that AV1 encoding is noticeably better than the H.264 NVENC. Having it as a second gpu for streaming/ recording at the price point seems like a decent idea.
For gaming probably wouldn't recommend, but for a cheap av1 capable card absolutely. Also anyone who wants a cheap card for plex and or to use with handbrake and also has a new intel chip it's great with the deeplink technology.
Your right. By the time the drivers are fully optimized its going to be obsolete. Its competing with gtx 1630 of current time, which is not particularly ideal considering how hated the gtx 1630 is.
At the moment I think it's best for a dedicated av1 encoder especially with people running Radeon GPUs as their encoding for streaming is tragic Honestly an A380 for £180 and an 6900XT for £667 is a good deal for a streamer set up A380 handling encoding while the 6900XT just deals with games
@@CaliMorningstar the problem is a380 encoding is terrible, it supports max 1080p 60fps or 1440p 30fps. which makes the pair with any fast GPU pointless.
As AV1 encoder it's looking good. For gaming compared to something like a RX 6500 XT or even RX 580/GTX 1060 (two still very popular cards) it doesn't seem worth it.
@@JaimeIsJaime another thing is that it's the cheaper way to get a better encoder because I'm not upgrading my GPU for any new Nvidia overpriced card It's the best cheapest way
The only reason to buy this card, is the AV1 Encoding feature. I would use this in a server or small encoding rig. For that usecase, there is no better alternative for the price.
Even if these gpus are lesser performing in terms of fps, but are noticeably cheaper to buy, Intel will still have a vg product on their resume for consumers.
I've seen how badly the A770 performs in DX11 and earlier. Would've been nice to see some DX9 or DX10 titles tested. And maybe even compared to something like a GTX 1060 or RX 580, both still very popular cards and possibly the most common point people are upgrading from. The A380 is really only good as AV1 encoder at this point. Still great to see more competition in the GPU market.
fyi Apex Legends has a DX12 beta option available. I looked at the details and I think I remember it being a simple launch option you'd put in the steam extra options. Would love to see if performance changes there, although perhaps it'd be more interesting with an A770.
I remember in Digital Foundry where the team mentioned to the Intel Arc team that people have been using DXVK to mitigate FPS performance on their cards and they seemed to be genuinely interested with it. So I hope Intel/Microsoft can come up with a translatation layer similar to Proton for Windows. Cause ngl Vulkan > DX12.
Just got one from Ebuyer which you can get some free software and 2 games for free with it which is not too bad and I got it for the use of AV1. Also agree with early adopters too.
Arc GPUs have some magic gusto when it comes to Ray tracing. For the A770 at least the performance drops more from changing your resolution compared to adding ray tracing.
I'd love to see how this car performs in those games without Resizable Bar on. I thought about buying it for my old PC where I don't need raw power, but I don't know how it would actually perform without this kinda crucial feature.
Random, try XeSS on titles like CoD: MW2. I have the new MW2 and i've been trying XeSS on my A770, with some incredible results. Arc cards can run hardware XeSS AI upsampling and it's a really great feather in the card's hat, vs FSR options on say, a 6400. FSR is nice, but it doesn't match XeSS which is close to DLSS in visual/performance boost results. :)
Until the drivers are better hammered out, the Intel dedicated GPUs can basically be summed up as "workstation cards that also can be used to play games"
I'm from the Philippines, and these cards are available here at around or even less than the price of an RX 6400, which means people will probably snap them up for that reason alone.
Would be interesting to see, what, if anything, works playably on such an entry-level raytracing behemoth. Sure, spidey will give you single digits, but, that ain't the only game out there. It's a pity raytracing isn't the sort of thing you can just enable in settings on any old game, like antialiasing. Some Fable with rtx lighting? Would be cool...
Intel has been killing it with drivers. They are putting Nvidia and AMD's software teams to shame. The cards were ready in March. The drivers are what has taken so long and still need work but every single new video I watch, the cards all work better than the last. I'd like to see the A380 vs RX 6400 again. I have a feeling the A380 may have passed it by.
Faster than a 1050ti which I'm using right now for 1080p. It does okay but it's a lot weaker than I'm used to. My R9 290X finally died after almost 10 years of gaming. I'm getting a used 5700xt pretty soon for about 150-200. Pretty amazing price for performance. I want to buy one before people start to realize what a steal the used 5000 series cards are.
Considering a new Gtx1650 is going for about £180 would this A380 be considered a competitor for that card? Or is it a more powerful card limited by the drivers? I am looking for a good GPU for about £200 max but don't think my system would support resizable BAR.
You can check if your system supports reBAR. And if you're looking for a new card *NOW*, look at performance it'll get in *your* games on *your* system *NOW*! Performance 3 years later with newer drivers arent relevant to a current upgrade.
My guess it depends on two things: 1) What's your PSU age/power and 2) do you only game? It seem s much better to get, let's say, RX 470(and higher)/1660d6(or Ti) for roughly the same price. Yes, it's some used AliExpress refab but hey, why bother about low-tier anyway? It never was a good option for mining hence should be okay for now.
I do want see a third large player in the dGPU market even if I'm not really too keen on it to be Intel. I'd even take a card with less than ideal drivers that may become just as good as the drivers from AMD and Nvida over time. The thing that I don't like about Arc the most is the decision to effectively ditch support for older APIs - being able to reasonably play classic games is something that defines PC gaming for me and when there are competitor cards that work just as well or better than Intel Arc, are priced competitively or better and yet also support old APIs natively there's a clear choice here. For people that only care about the latest games (or are happy tinkering with things like DXVK just to get old games running decently, which helps on AMD/Nvidia too but isn't required to this extent) this may not be a problem though.
G'day Random, It was very interesting to get your take on the A380, You cannot get an A380 for your PC here in Australia unless you want an Aeroplane Model instead of a POP Character as an ornament in your case😂, so not sure how they compete for price for us compared to the RX6400/6500 or GTX1650/1650Super, 🤔fortunately 1630 is not an option where I shop either. I've heard everyone mention that the ARC GPUs have problems with the older DX Versions but as you showed some older games like GTAV run fine, so it seems more 'Hit N Miss' by game now as Intel keep working on the drivers, it will be interesting to see if stability is improved in a wider range of games by the time RX7400/7500 are released & if nVIDIA even have a new ADA GPU below RTX4050 or if they are just stagnant & keep making Turing GTX1630/1650 for this price range, Plus will Intel get stability sorted before Battlemage is released.
Hello, i was curious to know what a Good Ryzen CPU would be to pair with a 2080 Super, i sadly have to give my current build to a family member who needs it, would a Ryzen 7 5800x be well with it? Also mother board recommendations as well, at least want a single or two Nvme slots too use for windows, have a few SSD's left over from my current build as well. much love, and do take care i'd love to get your opinion.
I want Intel to get way better with its GPUs so bad, a third competitor is always the key to good prices in general.
For their first proper go at making gaming gpus they are pretty good. Over time the drivers should get good.
The A770 is as good as the 3060, while costing less, but consuming as much power as the 3060Ti/3070, which is the limit for acceptable power consumption, so I'd say it's a small win.
Amd is already pretty good though
Everyone except fanboy idiots wants Intel to get better, we really need a third player and Intel won't do wonders with their first generation, nobody will. They will get better over time, assuming they don't pull out of the GPU game entirely.
@@broodjenoodles Who cares, we need three competitors so it's not a duopoly.
I hope that Intel keeps plugging away, improves their drivers and builds a second generation of cards. The competition will be good for all of us.
Yes! I hope they keep it up. A third GPU maker out there really changes things up.
my fear is that if arc gets good what if the E series cards go the way of optane…
@@Zapdos0145 E series cards?
@@pokealong like whatever comes after the B, C, and D arc cards
Yeah me too, but I think intel will do the usual intel thing and cancel ARC because it's first gen wasn't an immediate cash cow. Even though they have some of the best engineers in the world, econmic pressure will probably prevail
you mean Intel Airbus A380 ?
😂
Dawid?
@@franscartoons most likely lol
Wish one of those could land in my country.
😂
Apex Legends is now testing a dx12 mode that you can enable by putting "-eac_launcher_settings SettingsDX12.json" in the launch options, its currently not very stable but it might be worth giving a try with these intel gpus
I tried it on my 5700xt, got better FPS average but worse 1% lows. If they can fix the stutter, will be great.
@@EmergencyChannel Same here... went back to dx11 for now, but it's actually not bad in dx12...
I might grab it as a secondary GPU for AV1 decoding. It seems like a nice little addition in the case that won't consume much power while streaming and recording
Yeah it’s solid for that
Anychance one day having a video tour around your warehouse full of video cards? Love your vids and always enjoy your cheerful positivity.
It's so cute xD
I am so happy Intel is finally getting into the GPU market, while it's understandable they aren't that good yet (although their top end one does compete and even surpass the 3060/6600 in some games and is a decent card) if we consider its their first consumer discreet GPU it's pretty good for a first run, in time they're probably going to be very competitive and we as the cosummers only have more to gain more competition.
Yeah my thoughts too. The more competition the better
@@RandomGaminginHD i hear they might not be staying in the market long.......i hope thats not true
Surpass the RTX 3060 is some games, fall behind a GTX 1050 in others
careful with the buzzword 'competition', competition work isn't because it is a competition, it works because of private ownership principle and voluntary transaction. Don't be one of those 'right to repair' people who only parrot the word competition but never ask why competition among government owned companies doesn't work (ignoring 'uniting multiple companies' under government to create combined result never work).
@@unlockeduk Considering the amount of work it took to make it this far... That would be a great loss to Intel!
They've been working on these cards for upwards of a decade... 5 years ago, we knew they were coming "eventually".
I'm planning to use the A380 as a dedicated av1 encoder while my 6900XT handles the gaming and stuff
Good idea
but have been drivers fixed? last time I checked most recording and encoding capabilities were broken anyways. so your 6900XT despite not being great would do much better than A380 in most encoding tasks until intel fix their stuff
@@JaimeIsJaime yeah and amd improved their recording recently
I use my A380 to fly to places
I've seen a lot people doing this having the card and using it just for the AV1 encoder, the next gen cards will all have this as basic thankfully but if your not planning on a GPU upgrade anytime soon this is defo the way to go
If it becomes beneficial for a Plex server over my server's GTX 1650 for transcoding, I'll definitely end up getting one. I could see lots of them selling just to use as transcoder cards, even if the gaming performance isn't fantastic.
I think it's good people perceives them as such instead of gaming cards.
thats what im debating on rn. Build a system with an effeicent ryzen cpu with a a380 or go for a 12500 or smthn instead with no dedicated.
Yup I'm just waiting on more benchmarks just for this. I am debating if it's worth getting for transcoding
@@ResidentIT_ you can probably undervolt the Ryzen and I've seen the a380 draw about 15W on idle and sometimes just over 20W while transcoding
So as far as gaming performance, it’s basically a 1650 Super…I had a 1650 Super on my old rig but built a new one. Basically all my old components got reused except that I added the A380. Ran a few games and basically got same performance
Reviews like yours and from many techtubers and even from people that aren't very tech savvy, is exactly what Intel needs to gather more and more information and feedback regarding the performance of the cards, how to improve the drivers and many more. I prefer AMD cards in general but, I'm really eager to see Intel gpus expanding and becoming more competitive
Honestly, I am absolutely pumped to see what Battlemage will bring to the table. I am glad that intel is throwing down in the ring and I genuinely hope they do well with the next drop. I am not dissuaded that they will eventually kill the mid-tier market in the coming years.
Would be great if you can show the power consumption of the card during gaming. The cooler doesn't look like he can handle the 8 pin power connector :D
I looked it up, seems like the 8-pin power connector is more for show, the card has a power target of 75W.
@@alinzelnan yep, just for a bit of safety should someone overclock it. Honestly doubt it's even taking the slot spec of 75w... looks like a 30-50w card.
You can only move the power slider to 67Watts
I’ve seen it hit 55W
Strange it has a power connector at all tbh. Would make far more sense to be a pcie slot only card
@@anasevi9456 still too tall for my system. And too wide. Why won't someone put out a decent SSLP card? That's the only reason the RX 6400 is even worth a look. The T600/T1000 are good but way too expensive (after all these years, still).
I’ve been really happy with my Arc A750, but could never manage to get the A380 I tried to behave stably. Maybe I got a bad one, or maybe the drivers were just that rough in the first month. Glad to see it make an appearance here - I do hope the drivers continue to improve so the hardware can shine as brightly in older titles as it manages in newer ones.
As a daily driver of a A370m, it is surprisingly good when it works and yes there are loads of bugs, but it have been getting significantly better in the last 2 months. however, updating drivers is still currently a bit of a pain. since they are about 1.2GB in size and the installer can crash your system and takes a long time. For the power draws it is very nice for a mobile part since it allowed your CPU to have more power budget.
Buying two a380s, one to game and one to stream 😎. Haha jokes aside, nice video!
I think there's potential here in the future with Intel. There's almost no one else who could do this and pull it off as relatively well as Intel has so here's to hoping they keep at it. Also, I'd love to see a ray tracing comparison video between this gpu and maybe a 6600 or even a RX 6500xt, you know, for the lols.
If the game is Dx10 or Dx9 you can use DXVK to replace it with Vulkan which might give a massive boost specifically to this card.
that parking skills at 3:00 is insane
I'd love to see a Raytracing demonstration with this card, would also make for an exciting future video to revisit the same titles and see how much the RT performance has improved after a couple months / a year
You need to review A770/780. Those are true bang for the buck!
2:58 okay that was so smooth
I haven't checked the computer market in several years. This is wild, Intel making a proper dedicated GPU, these are crazy times
I bought it as a novelty and as a transcoder for my plex server. It works well on both accounts.
awesome idea :)
Ah finally, Intel ARC gets another spotlight in your channel, have you seen the Acer Intel Arc A770 yet, the design is very unique! I would like to see your view on this card if you decide on getting it!
Looking forward to seeing the future of Intel's ARC cards, more competitors in the market is always a good thing for the consumer🤘🏻
Yeah definitely
l really hope you see this, because I know if anyone will test a sensible budget setup with this card and something like a 12100f and some decent ddr4 ram it's you. It would be great to see if in the most popular games people actually play right now, how good it can be
Of course we want to see an RT specific video. It's definitely terrible for raytracing, but it's the budget content we enjoy.
If I find one of these cheap enough I'm definitely going to grab one. I've had my eye on it. Just want it for a ultra compact low end ITX build.
1650LP or 6400 are better. I have the 6400 and it require no connector, is small, good temps, runs everything at 1080p in medium, I even have Spiderman and God of War on it and looks good, Halo Infinite can be capped at 55 fps with around 80% render resolution and it's stable, all the competitives go smooth and overall is amazing.
@@erickalvarez6486 I really do hope we get more LP cards on the market. there are RTX 3060 6 GB cards coming out of china that are mobile variants bonded to a PBC on a graphics card running really close to 75 watts. really hope Nvidia release an official one.
@@erickalvarez6486 yeah, I mainly just want an Arc card just for the sake of having an Arc card lol. Definitely some better options out there especially LP wise. I have a 3080 in my main rig which is technically an ITX build but it's a Thermaltake P1 so not really a small ITX build lol.
@@SpaceGamblerJR yeah I agree, we need some more options in the LP world.
It looks like this will be a very good card for AV1 encoding in the future, when prices fall quite a bit.
great video as always, can you please do a follow-up comparison video of A380 and gtx 1650s or gtx 1060 6g
I really hope people buy these, we need competition
I have it as a graphics adapter for a system that needs very basic 3D and could use av1. It's making good use of it.
I wanna trust that intel will keep at it and make their graphics cards better. But as a video editor I already know of their other types of products like the Optane drives which were genuinely good when they came out, this release is commendable at best.
Having a third manufacturer of gaming cards is great. But the problem is it's Intel. They're not known for cheap, good, reliable things. And if they do anything that's good, you can expect the price to be well outside the value of it. It is only AMD that is keeping the others honest.
Intel have to compete in the low end GPU space because AMD and Nvidia are not at the moment, and they know their software needs to be improved so they can't go big. AMD are very much not offering budget options with their new GPUs.
@@Safetytrousers; True. At the moment they are going toe to toe with each other. But AMD sometimes drop their prices in a bid to outmanoeuvre NVIDIA and at those times you can get some pretty good bargains.
@@jonathanmaybury5698 AMD have dropped their prices out the gate with the new GPUs to compete with Nvidia.
@@Safetytrousers; With their latest card they have, but not all They dropped their RX6700XT 12GB a while ago, it has since gone back up in price.
it's so funny I always watch your video's and half the time I will be looking at something then your video pops up and you're looking at the same thing as well.🤣
I hope you retest Apex Legends in DX12 mode, it was added very recently
i really cant think of a better cheaper sff gpu thats brand new, its honestly amazing for the price, with a £200 budget you can get a optiplex and the gpu and prob a 1tb hdd and boom you have a competent gaming pc for a fraction if you were to build a budget pc from the ground up
I hope intel can get drivers worked out by their next gen. I'd love to get a 3rd competitor in the gpu space.
The drivers are already improving hugely on a week to week basis. I've seen 30%+ boosts to DX9/11 performance on my A770 with the Oct 27th beta drivers.
By the time they sell this card new for €100 it will worth the price, if the drivers get sorted out. Used gpus giving the same performance cost like €50. Lets hope intel will sort the driver issues soon.
Hard to listen to you when the driving in Cyberpunk is sublime
Just out of curiosity, why not test Xess for CoD MW2 and Spiderman? I'm pretty sure they're supported.
@n n I just brought it up since he was already using fsr to boost performance on those two games in this video. Seemed like a good moment to show how xess did with this card.
@n n I get it, you don't value upscaling tech, a lot of peole do though. All I'm saying is MW2 and Spiderman have xess support. Considering it's supposed to be comparable to dlss 2/fsr 2 when run on an Arc card, it would have made more sense for him to use Xess instead of fsr.
@n n ok, how is that relevant here? All I said was "why not show xess since you're already using fsr in this video?" Do you see how what you are saying is a separate topic? You're just saying he shouldn't show any upscaling. That has nothing to do with my suggestion in the context of his video.
Also, if there's a feature that improves performance while essentially serving as a better Anti-aliasing solution, you don't think that's relevant to a gpu review? I sure do. In the case of games I play, I always use either fsr 2 quality or dlss 2 quality since it does look better than native with TAA 90% of the time. FSR 1 and NIS are not very good, I do prefer native over those.
@n n xess means something here because this a review of the Arc A380. It'd be like reviewing an rtx 3050 and using fsr 1 instead of dlss 2.
@n n well obviously you show the base results, but if your gpu has a special feature that works specifically on that gpu like dlss or xess (which works much better on arc cards even though it's universally compatible) you show that too.
ARC A380: *What is my purpose?*
Me: *You're doing AV1 encoding.*
ARC A380: *Oh My God...*
How does it run in older games (D3D9)? Like GTA4 or Sims 3. Hell, what about ancient games like Morrowind, which use D3D8?
You know, I might actually pick one of these up. Not for gaming, but for the video encoding. Currently rocking a 3060 and while the encoding is pretty good on it, I hear that AV1 encoding is noticeably better than the H.264 NVENC. Having it as a second gpu for streaming/ recording at the price point seems like a decent idea.
Nice Coverage of this card. Just curious does resizable bar works with AMD RDNA 2 cards ?
I hope Intel keeps going. while these have issues, they are interesting. they get their software and drivers sorted out, they'll be amazing
ReBar is very important for ARC. The Z370 Aorus Gaming 7 with a 5GHz 8700K (10600K) or 9900K supports ReBar and runs great with the 16GB A770.
Does XeSS available for testing? I heard XeSS performs really well on Arc GPUs compared to FSR
For gaming probably wouldn't recommend, but for a cheap av1 capable card absolutely. Also anyone who wants a cheap card for plex and or to use with handbrake and also has a new intel chip it's great with the deeplink technology.
Yeah for cheap av1 it could be ideal
These intel gpu's are proper beasts in linux matching 3080's so for linux gaming these are perfect.
This card is to update your codec to av1 encode and decode. If it can do gaming then its a plus!
In another video I saw testing ARC there were 3 games that didn't work at all in DX12 but they did all work in DX11 where they performed decently.
Your right. By the time the drivers are fully optimized its going to be obsolete. Its competing with gtx 1630 of current time, which is not particularly ideal considering how hated the gtx 1630 is.
Available in markets for 180$.
Not sure. I think even a 6500xt at 150$ is a better deal with the driver issues right now.
At the moment I think it's best for a dedicated av1 encoder especially with people running Radeon GPUs as their encoding for streaming is tragic
Honestly an A380 for £180 and an 6900XT for £667 is a good deal for a streamer set up
A380 handling encoding while the 6900XT just deals with games
@@CaliMorningstar the problem is a380 encoding is terrible, it supports max 1080p 60fps or 1440p 30fps. which makes the pair with any fast GPU pointless.
As AV1 encoder it's looking good. For gaming compared to something like a RX 6500 XT or even RX 580/GTX 1060 (two still very popular cards) it doesn't seem worth it.
@@JaimeIsJaime another thing is that it's the cheaper way to get a better encoder because I'm not upgrading my GPU for any new Nvidia overpriced card
It's the best cheapest way
Wish they would make mxm versions for older laptops and all in one systems preferably without needing resizable bar.
I might just get one for the video encoding
Yeah pretty good choice for that
Why did you use FSR 1.0 in MW2? Wouldn't XeSS make more sense given this card is built with that in mind?
The only reason to buy this card, is the AV1 Encoding feature. I would use this in a server or small encoding rig. For that usecase, there is no better alternative for the price.
I used it's smaller brother A320 to fly to my destination, pretty good! Idk if this can fly, who knows? it has a fan right?
It can fly if I launch it from my window lol
@@RandomGaminginHD 😯
Can you please do some review on it AV1 and medie encoding side?
Even if these gpus are lesser performing in terms of fps, but are noticeably cheaper to buy, Intel will still have a vg product on their resume for consumers.
2:58 We just ignore how smooth that was?
Two months and some driver updates later do you think you would recommend a380 specifically?
I've seen how badly the A770 performs in DX11 and earlier. Would've been nice to see some DX9 or DX10 titles tested. And maybe even compared to something like a GTX 1060 or RX 580, both still very popular cards and possibly the most common point people are upgrading from.
The A380 is really only good as AV1 encoder at this point.
Still great to see more competition in the GPU market.
Thanks for adding apex legends that's my favorite game right. But just know that the have a beta for directx12 that you can enable.
Cheap AV1 encoder is a good use for this class of card if you aren't going to upgrade to a card that already has it.
Im interested because it support AV-1 compression.
fyi Apex Legends has a DX12 beta option available. I looked at the details and I think I remember it being a simple launch option you'd put in the steam extra options. Would love to see if performance changes there, although perhaps it'd be more interesting with an A770.
Please re-visit with the latest driver update! :)
I remember in Digital Foundry where the team mentioned to the Intel Arc team that people have been using DXVK to mitigate FPS performance on their cards and they seemed to be genuinely interested with it. So I hope Intel/Microsoft can come up with a translatation layer similar to Proton for Windows. Cause ngl Vulkan > DX12.
Nice, now we are going somewhere.
How can you get a arc GPU here In Europe? I can't find any. Great vid though
Ccl or ebuyer here :)
We have some here in Greece tho only in 3 stores, and only from asrock
@@chrislamp Asrock is quite good though
@@gabbythegamer79 meh they are fine, asrock is usually an asia market brand like colorful
Already bought one!
3:00 Are we not going to talk about how smooth that was?
Makes you think it can do a lot better when you see it performing well in an older game. Drivers more than hardware, but as you say don't quote me.
Just got one from Ebuyer which you can get some free software and 2 games for free with it which is not too bad and I got it for the use of AV1. Also agree with early adopters too.
Arc GPUs have some magic gusto when it comes to Ray tracing. For the A770 at least the performance drops more from changing your resolution compared to adding ray tracing.
thanks
can you make a dedicated video about a380 using XeSS and DXVK to see how far it can go?
I'd love to see how this car performs in those games without Resizable Bar on. I thought about buying it for my old PC where I don't need raw power, but I don't know how it would actually perform without this kinda crucial feature.
Bad. Sometimes better than a 1050 ti but sometimes worse than an rx 550. Just depending on game. Never as good as a gtx 1060 or rx 6400.
You can use ReBar with RX 580 8gb.. i dont have mobo to test that.. but as i see for some people it work.. i found it on guru3d forum.
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Random, try XeSS on titles like CoD: MW2. I have the new MW2 and i've been trying XeSS on my A770, with some incredible results. Arc cards can run hardware XeSS AI upsampling and it's a really great feather in the card's hat, vs FSR options on say, a 6400. FSR is nice, but it doesn't match XeSS which is close to DLSS in visual/performance boost results. :)
Wonder when the Battlemage series cards will drop. Late 2023?
Until the drivers are better hammered out, the Intel dedicated GPUs can basically be summed up as "workstation cards that also can be used to play games"
Would be nice to see a follow up testi dxvk with this
INTEL welcome to the hall of shameless next to NVIDIA.
I'm from the Philippines, and these cards are available here at around or even less than the price of an RX 6400, which means people will probably snap them up for that reason alone.
Would be interesting to see, what, if anything, works playably on such an entry-level raytracing behemoth. Sure, spidey will give you single digits, but, that ain't the only game out there.
It's a pity raytracing isn't the sort of thing you can just enable in settings on any old game, like antialiasing. Some Fable with rtx lighting? Would be cool...
Intel has been killing it with drivers. They are putting Nvidia and AMD's software teams to shame. The cards were ready in March. The drivers are what has taken so long and still need work but every single new video I watch, the cards all work better than the last. I'd like to see the A380 vs RX 6400 again. I have a feeling the A380 may have passed it by.
Faster than a 1050ti which I'm using right now for 1080p. It does okay but it's a lot weaker than I'm used to. My R9 290X finally died after almost 10 years of gaming. I'm getting a used 5700xt pretty soon for about 150-200. Pretty amazing price for performance. I want to buy one before people start to realize what a steal the used 5000 series cards are.
Make a single-slot version and use it as an encoder card. People with all-AMD systems might have an option for better livestreaming.
In the USA at best buy they have XFX RX 580 GTS XXX edition 8gb cards brand new for $150 usd. That would be a decent little card with a warranty
Curious why you didn’t test XeSS in MW2 instead using FSR?
I’ve found FSR to give better results/ look better
Considering a new Gtx1650 is going for about £180 would this A380 be considered a competitor for that card? Or is it a more powerful card limited by the drivers?
I am looking for a good GPU for about £200 max but don't think my system would support resizable BAR.
You can check if your system supports reBAR. And if you're looking for a new card *NOW*, look at performance it'll get in *your* games on *your* system *NOW*! Performance 3 years later with newer drivers arent relevant to a current upgrade.
My guess it depends on two things: 1) What's your PSU age/power and 2) do you only game? It seem s much better to get, let's say, RX 470(and higher)/1660d6(or Ti) for roughly the same price. Yes, it's some used AliExpress refab but hey, why bother about low-tier anyway? It never was a good option for mining hence should be okay for now.
I do want see a third large player in the dGPU market even if I'm not really too keen on it to be Intel. I'd even take a card with less than ideal drivers that may become just as good as the drivers from AMD and Nvida over time. The thing that I don't like about Arc the most is the decision to effectively ditch support for older APIs - being able to reasonably play classic games is something that defines PC gaming for me and when there are competitor cards that work just as well or better than Intel Arc, are priced competitively or better and yet also support old APIs natively there's a clear choice here. For people that only care about the latest games (or are happy tinkering with things like DXVK just to get old games running decently, which helps on AMD/Nvidia too but isn't required to this extent) this may not be a problem though.
Can you try it with older systems that don't have reBar?
yes, this would be interesting to see
It would perform as bad as a GTX 1050 if not worse. ReBar is required for Arc to even function.
Did you try XeSS upscale in spider-man which supposedly runs best on Intel cards anyway?
Did you still have the A380? Can you test it with Control? I'm trying to figure out if RT can be enabled.
G'day Random,
It was very interesting to get your take on the A380, You cannot get an A380 for your PC here in Australia unless you want an Aeroplane Model instead of a POP Character as an ornament in your case😂, so not sure how they compete for price for us compared to the RX6400/6500 or GTX1650/1650Super, 🤔fortunately 1630 is not an option where I shop either.
I've heard everyone mention that the ARC GPUs have problems with the older DX Versions but as you showed some older games like GTAV run fine, so it seems more 'Hit N Miss' by game now as Intel keep working on the drivers, it will be interesting to see if stability is improved in a wider range of games by the time RX7400/7500 are released & if nVIDIA even have a new ADA GPU below RTX4050 or if they are just stagnant & keep making Turing GTX1630/1650 for this price range, Plus will Intel get stability sorted before Battlemage is released.
want one for just AV1 support. Haven't seen any for sale anywhere tho
Hello, i was curious to know what a Good Ryzen CPU would be to pair with a 2080 Super, i sadly have to give my current build to a family member who needs it, would a Ryzen 7 5800x be well with it? Also mother board recommendations as well, at least want a single or two Nvme slots too use for windows, have a few SSD's left over from my current build as well. much love, and do take care i'd love to get your opinion.