Of course Intel would say the A380 is _for gaming_ in the same way they insist their integrated graphics are "certified for extreme gaming" as defined as 640×480 _Low_ presets... In World of Warcraft. No, i will *never* let them live that down.
Intel Iris Xe intergrated (alder lake 2+8 i5-1235U) graphics are great for my laptop gaming. My favorite games runs pretty well with only 7W of TDP. In the first six months there were problems with drivers, damn Windows 11 just installed the old driver by itself, and the assistant installed new ones. Lately everything has become normal. It's very interesting that my AlderLake PCH platform allows for CPU and GPU undervolting. I got stable 1200 MHz GPU cores with -150 mV offset for reaching silent laptop gaming experience. Gaming performance is about the same as my old laptop with Broadwell i7-5700HQ + Maxwell GTX950M, except that the laptop is not 17", but only 14", it is much more compact and lighter.
@@jebreggie4225 The average consumer can actually play games even on integrated graphics, without any cheating. It runs games, that it is. The PC as a platform is very flexible in its essence, and choosing hardware according to the tasks and based on the budget is a really good thing. I don’t see anything wrong with the existence of the ultra-budget segment. Yes, such video cards are currently a very niche product, but for an undemanding adult aged gamer, the choice between a used (or “new” refurbished) RX580 and a new A380 will not be in AMD’s favor.
@@MarkRUSSIA100 Sir, intel arc can't even handle Team fortress 2, let alone anything made in the last three years without upscaling or frame generation nonsense, especially even at 1080p. It also decides to just give you one frame _per day_ if you're not on a platform that supports resizable bar, which by intel's arbitrary support pipeline, excuses everything below their own 11th gen cpu's. Which is deliciously ironic because even the high-end intel Arc would only be really worth getting for those older platforms if they worked as well.
With Nvidia and AMD seemingly allergic to launching cards under $249, the 380 series from Intel has a huge opportunity. As long as Intel is cheap they will be the only ones actually competing and the B380 could have killer value. All Intel needs to do is have the B380 be fast enough to actually game at 1080p in modern games and be under $200.
If their roadmap indicates anything, we're not gonna get anything low-end out of Battlemage. Rather, the roadmap implied they were going to refresh Alchemist with fixed flaws in the chip production designs so that they would work at their full intended capacity. So that being said, if they do that we'll get an improved A380... And probably will be just that for a long while too. Lol.
yeah but there is a problem with that. Intel even with that pricing will have to compete with used cards which is the reason why Nvidia and AMD moved out of that segment. It will have to compete with RX 5700XT and/or cheaper RX 6600XT and RTX 3060 or even RX 6700XT in the future, the A380 is already competing with the RTX 2060 in term of pricing. By then Intel new card even assume it perform excellently at 1080p will have to compete with stronger 1440p cards.
I was literally writing the script for my video referencing your first video on this card (which is almost finished) as a reference, for the troubled reality of owning and daily running the ARC A380. I was genuinely afraid I would have to scrap everything I have worked on when I saw this video appear. In some ways I am disappointed not a whole lot has changed, but at the same time, I don't have to completely change my script. Good on yah Iceberg Tech. Let's hope things slowly get better for this generation.
I'm in a weird state; I use my A380 for gaming and have been loving it. Then again, I don't play any of the newest, really demanding games since Well, just look at most of the newest releases these days lmao It plays the new games I actually like amazingly.
You should do a review on the ARC a580 (if you can) , it dropped back in October of 2023 and offers some pretty good price to performance in most cases
@@kushy_TV gotcha, that sucks, I was able to get mine for pretty cheap on sale for around 165 USD which converts to around 130£. So far so good, haven't had many issues with the card.
You can buy a 6500 XT for $140 US, right now, but I keep telling everyone, just spend the extra $30 for a 6600, it's twice the VRAM and gives you around 40% more performance. It's a waste to buy the 6500XT. Same goes for the A380.
@@alderlake12thThe 6600 has 8, where the 6500 XT has 4, that's twice, and given how low power the A380 is, even with 6, it still manages to be worse than the 6500XT which outright sucks.
that gpu if it was cheaper would be ideal for alot of things, but the ram and the power consumption really makes it bad, yes, if it was cheaper, perhaps, but yes, rx 6600 us better, alot better
Hmm I feel like this GPU is acceptable for some gamers. For the fairly large group of gamers that only play e-sports titles, or other older easy to run games, but don't need super high refresh rates this is probably the most sensible choice. At least here in Denmark, the Arc a380 is the cheapest GPU you can buy from a retailer that isn't basically a display adapter. It's a fair bit cheaper than even the RX 6400, which would be notably bottlenecked in a PCIE 3.0 system anyway, and the A380 is even nearly the same price as an RX 5500 XT from Aliexpress due to taxes. Don't get me wrong, I would recommend going for an RX 6600 any day, but at nearly half the price here, the Arc A380 could make sense for someone who only plays CS2, GTA V, Valorant, Fortnite and such. But going for that RX 6600 instead would make you able to get a playable experience in basically everything at 1080P.
At least over the pond in here in Norway you can get a used 6600 for hardly much mure more (or the same if you are lucky), or a used 5600xt for the same price or less, and sometimes a 5700(xt) for less as well so it's only really if you don't want to buy used or really need the up to date features of the a380 (and have a new enough system for rebar to actually make use of it) but can see that yea. It's not as overpriced as the rtx 3050s at least.
@@olnnn Yeah if you're willing to buy used then there are other great options. The A380 only makes sense if you want to build a new, low budget PC. Something like just a Ryzen 4100 or 4500 and an A380 can get you going fairly well in those e-sports titles.
I built a really tiny small form factor pc the other week and was restricted to only 17cm GPUs. So we are talking MSI Aero, Asus Phoenix, Gainward Pegasus, Palit StormX, Gigabyte ITX cards, and of course the subject of this video. It looked really tempting but I also knew how bad it was even for 1080p gaming. I eventually just waited out for a bit longer and got a 1660Ti Palit StormX for 110€ which is not too bad considering its condition and the original packaging. When you are restricted by size, your options for good deals become limited, since you are sort of paying a premium for the smaller size
10:55 dang I think it's been decades since I've had to do a manual driver installation - looks about the same way as it was on Windows XP at least - wish me luck with my Arc - thank you for the video
I had my Arc A750 for about one month now and I have encountered zero issues with it yet. I don´t know why people say Intels GPUs are bad. 60 FPS in Quake II RTX, 100 FPS in Doom Eternal with RTX on and max settings and 70 FPS in Trepang2 on maxed out settings. All that while having a pretty big RAM bottleneck with only 8GB DDR4 2666.
why people say it, ut us for the launch and how poorly it runs most games and how power hungry it is while doing aññ that, you just havent run the rigth game, measure power consumption or had windows killing itself with the intel driver you say this because you have no point of comparuson all we can do is hope for inteñ to do better, improve drivers, next gen migth do 60fps while not using 400watts on quake 2 and things migth be better but the reality is that old pc users know what kind of sh*t inteñ likes to do, how dirty they play and how often they abandon projects, so we expect this gpu idea to end up un flames, if it hasnt already and we just dpnt know it i personally invite you to squeeze every drop of juice out of that gpu and when the time comes, just move on to something better
when it launched the drivers were terrible, that was over a year ago though. things have improved a lot and now the experience is the same as AMD nvidia
Just put one in a Build I did for my niece, She plays older titles and homeschools her boy, it was 75 bucks on clearance at Microcenter. It works fine for her. Left for dead 2 worked just fine for her when she tried it out. I grabbed an Arc 750 OC 3 fan also at microcenter for 189.00 in my new desktop. Which I don't game on that. Drivers updated.
Honestly it all comes down to price. For off the shelf at $100 on sale, it’s not bad! It does stuff. More than I can say for the competition. Which is like, repainted RX560s.
Did you tried playing CS2? I have sff pc similar with yours Ryzen 5, and a380 low pwer. Whenever i play cs2, the fps wasn't that good, since somehow the Ryzen 5 got usage spam, the gpu won't reach it max potential.
As a film student. This is amazing for av1. Also when using it for gaming I would use it as a secondary gpu to focus on Losses Scaling rather than actual game tasks
Personally I don't know why anybody would complain about a $100 card with the latest features that can output playable frame rates in the latest demanding (and largely unoptimized) games. Do people really expect a low power card to drive high resolution high refresh rate games on high settings? It still wins by default because every other GPU in it's price class is a woefully inadequate and overpriced display adapter like the 1630 or 6400.
Out of all the negative reviews I've seen for this card, I have always chosen to be cautiously optimistic about it. You finally convinced me the glass was half empty all along... ...unless you need it for encoding, of course
This was the only “I can’t tell if this is discrete graphics or not” gpu that I tried years ago. Was such a bad, buggy mess. I commend you for trying to make it work again.
just bought an a380 for a workstation (no gaming intended at all on it, just basic use).. honesly only bought it because i got it for $99 bux new and i thought itd be neat to own one of intels first goes at a graphics card lo... its in the mail atm.. hope it does what i need it to do.. which is basically just be a fancy adapter for browsing and streaming services lol
i own the a380,a750, rx 570, rx5700xt and the rx 6650 xt and i have used the a 380 in my system which is a 12100f on a b660 mb and it plays alot better in my racing games than what you ended up with. ive uninstalled and reinstalled both intel cards and never have a driver not install. now i have noticed that the a380 seems a bit fuzzy or soft looking and the a750 has some slight glitches on the front bumper of cars but other than that both cards just work in my system,and yes i have rebar and xmp on.
Can you add graphs when compared to other video cards or compare it to the RX 6500? I know back in the day Intel would use more Vram than Radeon/Nvidia. Not sure if they fixed it but it would be interesting to see how it compares :)
The fact this conversation is even happening is a bit depressing. While the 6600 is great for the price I'm not feeling compelled by it's performance. The encoding aspect of the A380 intrigues me though and I'd certainly have a use for it. That driver install looks challenging to say the least but it's probably not going to put me off. I have a 7800xt for gaming so this looks like something I could use in a second build dedicated to all things video related.
Not a bad little card stuck a low profile one in an old 8th gen hp sff office pc and its fairly decent performer for gaming its dirt cheap and blows the 6400 out of the water
Daily Arc user here - 1440p A770 - i really do not understand all with people having problem installing the drivers - i would blame OR your OS bloated with older drivers from previous cards (if you switch GPUs here and there) and nothing else i mean - i can just do a fresh install of OS, download WHQL drivers for my Arc and i never had any problems :/ i mean - i had rough start when Arc came out but for past year it was no problem whatsoever
I hope Battlemage delivers so Intel can take some market share and force AMD and Nvidia to be a bit more competitive. Hopefully Moore Threads(made by nvidia china ex ceo) and Innosilicon(using license powerVR IP) in China can also get their act together and make some competitive products.
Lol this is why Intel has such a tough road ahead. You said you wanted them to succeed so AMD and Intel will be more competitive (drop prices), not because you’d like an intel gpu.
in europe or something where rtx 4090TI can be found for 15 bucks these lower price cards such as the intel arc A310 or A380 are real good if you want something more than integral and even with 1650 and 1660 being up to 200 bucks might very well be the only good cheap option but if your american just get an rtx 5090TI for 2 dollars
well it's not a hot take, it's just plain incorrect. it uses software Ray tracing, similar to lumen when RT settings are off, which is why it's so hard to run a lot of the time
You didn't encounter driver overhead because all of these titles run at DX12 which intel driver implements natively and it's for older DX versions DX9,10,11 that they implement gpu call translation to I believe it was vulkan(?). I think those are the cases where people encountered higher driver overhead which is just bound to be there since translation will always have extra work that needs to be done.
great take on the A380 , had one, sold it fast, ELSA RX 5500 XT is a much better way to go, even though its 4th gen by 8 it run pretty good on Zen 2 and a B450, a A380 will not to say the least, i am wanting to try an A580, the performance would justify a B550 and a R3 3100, and would assume with the 256 bit bus it will age well, im wondering if its not going to be the next RX 580 ounce Intel gets its drivers figured out, i mean if you look at performance of a A770 and the hardware in it , it should be trading blows with GPU in a class more than 30% higher performance, but who knows what the future will bring for ARC, and would pricing be as good as it is if Intel didnt need people to pay to be ALPHA tester
I don’t have a 1650 to test against it anymore, but from my results the Arc scores better in Cyberpunk but worse in Forza Horizon 5. They are the only tests I’ve done on both cards - except Fortnite and Warzone, and they don’t really count as those games can change quite a bit over the course of a year.
@@IcebergTech I'm after the Kalmx version but can't find any retailers out there right now. Please do a review when you get it anyway, not expecting to be impressed, but as least its low power.
Hi there, Intel arc a380 user here. I primarily use this card for video encoding along side my 7900XT. (Because AMD's encoders are just terrible and recording on x264 on 1440p60FPS is almost impossible if u want a decent looking recording without compromising on file size) And I had to send back my 7900XT recently due to overheating issues (It was a ref model so it probably had a faulty vapor chamber. Look that up if u dont know what it is) Anyways. I normally play on 1440p 165Hz. And with my little arc card it can play on 1440p with somewhat decent fps if you decide you can turn down eye candy settings a bit or even you dont play much visually demanding games. Been enjoying BTD6 on this little card and it runs it pretty much flawlessly. same with a few roblox games if you turn the graphics down a bit. For a gpu that was ment pretty much just for encoding I am genuinely shocked at how well it performs when it is not encoding (Ontop of being in my second slot of my mobo. So its not even being utilized to its absolute fullest potential.) And before anyone tells me I should move it, Yes I know. But im simply too lazy and dint wanna move it to the top slot. Then move it back after I get my 7900XT back from XFX. But overall im extremely impressed at what this little 110$ GPU can do with what I throw at it. If you dont need to play the latest and greatest and you play indies. Maybe a competitive game here n their. This little GPU packs alot more punch than 1 might think for its really really low price.
The adjective "gaming" as used in hardware advertising is meaningless. Anyway, I needed a card with three display ports to run 3 4K 60Hz monitors, and this was the cheapest brand new option I found at £108 on Amazon. It will be installed on an Intel DH55PJ socket 1156 motherboard rocking a i7 860 and 16GBs of 1333MHz DDR3, so gaming was never even a consideration. If I ever sell it, I will describe it as a 480p gaming behemoth.
I've been considering getting one to add AV1 encoding to my current PC, y already have a good enough for RX 6700, but i would really benefit from getting AV1 encoding, so i think i will try getting one used.
Something to stick into a cheap SFF Optiplex off eBay, perhaps. Low profile GPUs are a pain in general. 4060 from Gigabyte is an obvious choice if you're building a modern system, but it's too expensive for a low budget build. It also requires an additional 8-pin power connector, so in many cases you're stuck with a rat nest of adapters trying to squeeze some juice from a spare molex. From what I gathered A380 performs about the same as similarly priced 1650 and 6400. Two additional gigs of VRAM will probably help with longevity.
1:30 TBF here, Intel markets its iGPUs for gaming as well, even has an entire database of games and recommended settings, depending on which one of their glorified video decoders you actually have, usually 720p and low/ultra-low. BUT LOOK! ALL THESE GAMES WILL RUN! Somehow. Barely.
I find it interesting that the ryzen 3100 out performed the 7500f in *ANYTHING*. The 3100 doesnt even have the cores accessing the same l3 cache(its in a 2+2 config for its cores) where the 7500f, all the cores ARE using the same wad of cache. The clockspeed, PCI Bus speed and memory technology all should be in the 7500f's favor. Is it Rebar weirdness?
The Arc A380 has two advantages over a lot of other video cards -- there is a low profile version for all those people repurposing cast off Dell Optiplexes, and it's cheap enough to actually consider using. And while it may not be as fast as a Rx6400, I believe it has the video encoders that the AMD part lacks...
It's faster (usually, like Iceberg showed with the Forza results, a lot of things are a work in progress) than a 6400. The problem is that Re-Bar is *mandatory* to get there and the performance hit for not having it is worse than being on a PCIe 3.0 setup for the 6400. Unless you got a really decent deal on a 9th Gen Intel or later Optiplex, it's not worth it. It's a poor man's video encoder/e-sports card, which works for me, but I can easily see where this doesn't for a lot of people.
My experience with APUs has been in mini PCs, and they tend to stutter more in really demanding titles. I guess the stutter is related to either power or RAM speed, both of which would be better on the desktop versions, so.... I dunno, I think the Arc might have the edge.
Honestly I love it 🌟it's not the best but it's not trying to be 🙃 I bought the LP version for my HP PC that has a i5 10500 and 16gb ram I have no regrets because I know with future driver updates it will just get better
The new AMD APUs could be an alternative for media PC since they all support AV1 encode. Another reason to buy older GPU over this is that you will need rebar which you might not have on an old system.
also - fun note about that MILLSE RX 5500 8GB from Ali - it is AMD Radeon Pro W5500 flashed to be "RX 5500" there is no RX 5500 or 5500 XT with 8GB, but W5500 is using same core, same CU count, same bus etc -> but it has 8GB Techincally.... it should run on par of GTX 980, GTX 1650 Super or RX 6500 XT
At my company we just buy tons of these GPU since it's capable of handling both AV1 encode/decode and VP9 bitstream & decoding for our Conferancing Server needs & the price also cheep.
The main issue with these intel cards is the prices, there is no reason to act as a hardware tester while you could pay the same for an AMD or Nvidia and get better results. I hope they can become more competitive with the next series (if it ever happens).
A great budget card i can reccomend is RX 5600 XT, yes its has ONLY 6 Gb of Vram but its still very capable in games. In Nvidia related performance i would its between say RTX 2060 Super and 2070
The great news with Intel GPU’s is that they are supplying to a market segment forgotten by the big boys at Nvidia and to a lesser extent AMD, yes the GPU’s might be comparable to 6 - 3 year old GPU’s, but like AMD competing with Nvidia… it is early days, give it another 5 - 10 years and (assuming Intel don’t pull the plug on the Arc project and Battlemage is successful), I think Intel will be a force to be reckoned with in the GPU market… it is early days for Intel after all :) Loving the content as always good sir, yours and Random’s content are keeping me somewhat sane whilst I look after the little ones during half term… the wife couldn’t book holiday to do it herself lol. I have also used this time to complete my very own modest PC setup, having been on an ACER Nitro 5 with an i7-9750h and 1660Ti for the last 4 years… I decided to splash out £1k on Scan to treat myself to a Ryzen 5 7600, a B650m Pro RS, some 32Gb DDR5 ram kit and a 7800XT, just need a monitor and keyboard to see if I built it correctly and hopefully it will post 🤣
Anyone looking for extreme gaming performance are not going to consider an Arc A380. I picked up the AsRock low-profile Arc A380 over the holidays for a cheap Lenovo E34 SFF build, as only low-profile cards fit it. The low-profile video card market has been very limited for a while. I watched the prices of other cards, such as the RX 6400 and GTX 1650, but they never dropped their prices below $150. So when Intel dropped the price of the A380 under $100, that was when I made the decision to try the A380. And also, almost every SFF PC out there are not equipped with an 8-pin GPU connector, and usually only have 180-240 watt PSUs, so that takes the new RTX 4060 low profile card out of the equation. I got this A380 for $99. Did I expect RTX 4090 performance from a $99, 45 watt GPU? Of course not! That would be foolish. For what this card does, I'm very pleased with it. I'm only a casual gamer anyway, so I don't need more than what this card does for me. I don't understand why you had trouble installing drivers on your computer, as my installation and all subsequent updates have been flawless on Windows 10 Pro. My SFF PC doesn't support reBAR but I can still average 47 FPS on Furmark at 1080 settings. Compare that to the GT 1030 (with the GDDR5), which will only average 21 FPS. When one is considering a GPU for a budget SFF build, they usually have three things to consider: Price, purpose, and power draw. Intel delivers with the Arc A380.
For those of you who want AV1 but dont need the gaming "performance" of the a380, intel has an a310 card who's sole purpose probably is for encoding. Good luck finding one though
Honest criticism: for a card like this, you should benchmark LoL, CS2, Fortnite (ofc) and hell, FIFA. Popular multiplayer-only/first games for a casual audience. The purpose of the budget/entry card should be to tackle those types of games primarily. It's totally fair to test popular singleplayer and FOTM releases (but even there your selection is lacking - no Hogwarts Legacy, Spider-Man Remastered, Palworld, Baldur's Gate...) but IMO the only purpose for a card like this is for casual kid and MP-focused games.
I kinda agree, though it needs to be said that this level of performance in 2024 is quickly being relegated to last gen titles. That's cool for me, thanks to a backlog, but others probably want something with a little more oomph. Also, LoL? Really? I had someone play Valorant with it on my PC and while I never took any benchmarks, I could safely say that it was easily cracking 100+ on all high settings. I can't imagine LoL requiring much these days. Also, the purpose of this card is to be a dirt cheap "this machine kills encoding times" card. Outside of the A310, since all the Arc cards have the same encoding/decoding capabilities, it's the best bang for buck encoder on the market still. I would like to also think that it does okay in SD as far as broke options go, since Tom's Hardware has it beating a 6700 simply because Intel threw all their money behind AI, but OpenVINO is a headache to get working on Debian atm. I can probably get it jury-rigged, but it's going on the backburner for the moment.
@@EbonySaints That's the point tho, it's a very cheap card and people might be interested in it for playing (F2P) multiplayer games above all else - formally confirming that it DOES run those, while also confirming what settings and results are, would be helpful. If someone asks me if they should buy this card for a dirt-cheap rig, I'd like to know that I can confidently say yes/no!
hey iceberg was thinking why not a review to see if the msi gs63 7rd stealth is a good budget gaming, i only say as my little brother got one recwnrly i dont want him to have a bad experince (ebay returns)
They're still a little behind when it comes to gaming. I do appreciate to see Intel putting effort into these though. It seems like it's going through something similar that Ryzen 1000 went through when it comes to use cases. Productivity workloads seem to be decent for these little budget cards just like the 1st iteration of Ryzen did much better at productivity than gaming. I'm still mostly an AMD person, but more choice and competition is always welcome! I'd be a liar if I said I wasn't tempted to pick an A750 or A770 for some specific use cases.
no, because it is made to be a graphics processing unit in a pci express slot, not to be a accesory of power hungry intel cpus. it has to work everywhere
@@edwardelric717 are you a reviewer? can you back that up? it means it is a bad product then, you pay more to waste more electricity and get less your point is not a good point, if it is true.
I really don't wanna upgrade my platform but i do want a gpu that doesn't bottle neck with i5 4590 probably last time a checked 1050 ti is have 0 % bottle nack showing in pc-builds now arc a380 is showing 0% bottle neck so what your thoughts about getting a arc a380 for my i5 4590 i just wanna play games that's all with out getting bottle necking
There are no gamers on a budget. That segment is covered by those who wait to get a bigger budget, or those who instead make the mistake of buying a console instead. Nvidia and AMD understood this early enough.
i trust the GPU team at Intel, they have world class engineers from both other teams. the software team is currwntly grinding through 20 years worth of driver development in 2-3 years. Intel needs to keep this project funded, it will not return on investment in the first few generations, but it will soon after if the hardware and software team keep working this hard. but i can't afford to spend my money to justify the cost for them. its on them to keep the budget high enough to work, without going bankrupt. i kinda need less headaches, and for Linux, thats AMD.
You probably should've mentioned Starfield's poor optimization, and the fact it's built on an old engine. Or, given it's just an ok'eish game, omit it, it's not a good reference for benchmarking.
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I bought one of these a year ago for $120 and immediately returned it and bought a 5700xt for the same price on ebay. Huge difference.
I actually bought a 5700xt last week for 100$ great gpu
It is, indeed.
Oh the joys of the US market. 5700xts are like £150-£200 where I am
@@TakenWithout dang that is pricey, I found the Rx 590 to be great budget wise when the better performing cards were expensive here.
$100 5700xt gang!
As much as I dislike Intel's CPUs i really hope their GPUs do well
Same same.
We need their CPUs to start doing good too, if we don't want AMD to start doing the same things Intel was doing when AMD was irrelevant.
One has to make a sacrifice
....so go buy one!
GPUs are still in alpha testing
Why do you dislike Intel CPUs?
7:00 the transition is so smooth !
Of course Intel would say the A380 is _for gaming_ in the same way they insist their integrated graphics are "certified for extreme gaming" as defined as 640×480 _Low_ presets... In World of Warcraft. No, i will *never* let them live that down.
Well, it is extreme in some way....
Intel Iris Xe intergrated (alder lake 2+8 i5-1235U) graphics are great for my laptop gaming. My favorite games runs pretty well with only 7W of TDP. In the first six months there were problems with drivers, damn Windows 11 just installed the old driver by itself, and the assistant installed new ones. Lately everything has become normal. It's very interesting that my AlderLake PCH platform allows for CPU and GPU undervolting. I got stable 1200 MHz GPU cores with -150 mV offset for reaching silent laptop gaming experience. Gaming performance is about the same as my old laptop with Broadwell i7-5700HQ + Maxwell GTX950M, except that the laptop is not 17", but only 14", it is much more compact and lighter.
Any pc product aimed at average consumers will be described as "for gaming"
@@jebreggie4225 The average consumer can actually play games even on integrated graphics, without any cheating. It runs games, that it is.
The PC as a platform is very flexible in its essence, and choosing hardware according to the tasks and based on the budget is a really good thing. I don’t see anything wrong with the existence of the ultra-budget segment. Yes, such video cards are currently a very niche product, but for an undemanding adult aged gamer, the choice between a used (or “new” refurbished) RX580 and a new A380 will not be in AMD’s favor.
@@MarkRUSSIA100 Sir, intel arc can't even handle Team fortress 2, let alone anything made in the last three years without upscaling or frame generation nonsense, especially even at 1080p. It also decides to just give you one frame _per day_ if you're not on a platform that supports resizable bar, which by intel's arbitrary support pipeline, excuses everything below their own 11th gen cpu's. Which is deliciously ironic because even the high-end intel Arc would only be really worth getting for those older platforms if they worked as well.
With Nvidia and AMD seemingly allergic to launching cards under $249, the 380 series from Intel has a huge opportunity. As long as Intel is cheap they will be the only ones actually competing and the B380 could have killer value. All Intel needs to do is have the B380 be fast enough to actually game at 1080p in modern games and be under $200.
I got my rx 7600 for $250 cause it was on sale
Will it be better than rx6600 / 6600xt, which are as cheap?
If their roadmap indicates anything, we're not gonna get anything low-end out of Battlemage. Rather, the roadmap implied they were going to refresh Alchemist with fixed flaws in the chip production designs so that they would work at their full intended capacity. So that being said, if they do that we'll get an improved A380... And probably will be just that for a long while too. Lol.
yeah but there is a problem with that. Intel even with that pricing will have to compete with used cards which is the reason why Nvidia and AMD moved out of that segment. It will have to compete with RX 5700XT and/or cheaper RX 6600XT and RTX 3060 or even RX 6700XT in the future, the A380 is already competing with the RTX 2060 in term of pricing. By then Intel new card even assume it perform excellently at 1080p will have to compete with stronger 1440p cards.
@@1ace1000Are you referring to Alchemist+? Because that has long since been canceled and was left in the roadmap by mistake.
I was literally writing the script for my video referencing your first video on this card (which is almost finished) as a reference, for the troubled reality of owning and daily running the ARC A380. I was genuinely afraid I would have to scrap everything I have worked on when I saw this video appear. In some ways I am disappointed not a whole lot has changed, but at the same time, I don't have to completely change my script.
Good on yah Iceberg Tech. Let's hope things slowly get better for this generation.
I'm in a weird state;
I use my A380 for gaming and have been loving it.
Then again, I don't play any of the newest, really demanding games since
Well, just look at most of the newest releases these days lmao
It plays the new games I actually like amazingly.
same here. i already in love with it
Interesting video, I really do hope they carry on making cards. Nice work on the transition @ 6:59 btw :)
That was pretty damn clever lol
The sarcasm is strong with this one...
Thanks for another wonderfully edited and audio balanced video, always a pleasure to watch.
You should do a review on the ARC a580 (if you can) , it dropped back in October of 2023 and offers some pretty good price to performance in most cases
in the uk, where iceberg is, it's the same price or more expensive than the 6600, and the 6600 provides better performance in most cases
@@kushy_TV gotcha, that sucks, I was able to get mine for pretty cheap on sale for around 165 USD which converts to around 130£. So far so good, haven't had many issues with the card.
@@kushy_TV And thats if you can find one
You can buy a 6500 XT for $140 US, right now, but I keep telling everyone, just spend the extra $30 for a 6600, it's twice the VRAM and gives you around 40% more performance. It's a waste to buy the 6500XT. Same goes for the A380.
Agree. 6600 is about 80% faster than 6500XT on average though, not just 40%. It doubles framerates in several games, even when not VRAM limited
The A380 got more 2gb of vram bro..
@@alderlake12thThe 6600 has 8, where the 6500 XT has 4, that's twice, and given how low power the A380 is, even with 6, it still manages to be worse than the 6500XT which outright sucks.
that gpu if it was cheaper would be ideal for alot of things, but the ram and the power consumption really makes it bad, yes, if it was cheaper, perhaps, but yes, rx 6600 us better, alot better
6650 xt looks nice for buying, where I am it’s about 220
Hmm I feel like this GPU is acceptable for some gamers. For the fairly large group of gamers that only play e-sports titles, or other older easy to run games, but don't need super high refresh rates this is probably the most sensible choice. At least here in Denmark, the Arc a380 is the cheapest GPU you can buy from a retailer that isn't basically a display adapter. It's a fair bit cheaper than even the RX 6400, which would be notably bottlenecked in a PCIE 3.0 system anyway, and the A380 is even nearly the same price as an RX 5500 XT from Aliexpress due to taxes.
Don't get me wrong, I would recommend going for an RX 6600 any day, but at nearly half the price here, the Arc A380 could make sense for someone who only plays CS2, GTA V, Valorant, Fortnite and such. But going for that RX 6600 instead would make you able to get a playable experience in basically everything at 1080P.
At least over the pond in here in Norway you can get a used 6600 for hardly much mure more (or the same if you are lucky), or a used 5600xt for the same price or less, and sometimes a 5700(xt) for less as well so it's only really if you don't want to buy used or really need the up to date features of the a380 (and have a new enough system for rebar to actually make use of it) but can see that yea. It's not as overpriced as the rtx 3050s at least.
@@olnnn Yeah if you're willing to buy used then there are other great options. The A380 only makes sense if you want to build a new, low budget PC. Something like just a Ryzen 4100 or 4500 and an A380 can get you going fairly well in those e-sports titles.
I built a really tiny small form factor pc the other week and was restricted to only 17cm GPUs. So we are talking MSI Aero, Asus Phoenix, Gainward Pegasus, Palit StormX, Gigabyte ITX cards, and of course the subject of this video.
It looked really tempting but I also knew how bad it was even for 1080p gaming.
I eventually just waited out for a bit longer and got a 1660Ti Palit StormX for 110€ which is not too bad considering its condition and the original packaging. When you are restricted by size, your options for good deals become limited, since you are sort of paying a premium for the smaller size
You truly unleashed your inner Brit geezer energy in this video.
Keep it up
10:55 dang I think it's been decades since I've had to do a manual driver installation - looks about the same way as it was on Windows XP at least - wish me luck with my Arc - thank you for the video
I had my Arc A750 for about one month now and I have encountered zero issues with it yet. I don´t know why people say Intels GPUs are bad. 60 FPS in Quake II RTX, 100 FPS in Doom Eternal with RTX on and max settings and 70 FPS in Trepang2 on maxed out settings. All that while having a pretty big RAM bottleneck with only 8GB DDR4 2666.
why people say it, ut us for the launch and how poorly it runs most games and how power hungry it is while doing aññ that, you just havent run the rigth game, measure power consumption or had windows killing itself with the intel driver
you say this because you have no point of comparuson
all we can do is hope for inteñ to do better, improve drivers, next gen migth do 60fps while not using 400watts on quake 2 and things migth be better
but the reality is that old pc users know what kind of sh*t inteñ likes to do, how dirty they play and how often they abandon projects, so we expect this gpu idea to end up un flames, if it hasnt already and we just dpnt know it
i personally invite you to squeeze every drop of juice out of that gpu and when the time comes, just move on to something better
Dude chill you nVidia fanboy@@betag24cn
I have an a750 and I'm completely happy with it
when it launched the drivers were terrible, that was over a year ago though. things have improved a lot and now the experience is the same as AMD nvidia
A real step in the right direction, we almost have the features, price and now we need the FPS and VRAM.
Just put one in a Build I did for my niece, She plays older titles and homeschools her boy, it was 75 bucks on clearance at Microcenter. It works fine for her. Left for dead 2 worked just fine for her when she tried it out. I grabbed an Arc 750 OC 3 fan also at microcenter for 189.00 in my new desktop. Which I don't game on that. Drivers updated.
Oh yes, the good ol arc 380
Waiting for the ARC 1080 Ti
good? wait, did intel paid you to make this joke?
@@betag24cn nobody asked
Glass of water to a drowning man. Oml
Honestly it all comes down to price. For off the shelf at $100 on sale, it’s not bad! It does stuff. More than I can say for the competition. Which is like, repainted RX560s.
I have an ASRock A380 and use the driver update installer from Intel website about twice a month.
I built a low profile PC in a CiT case with a RYZEN 5 and a low profile ASRock A380. This is miles better than the integrated graphics of an APU.
Did you tried playing CS2? I have sff pc similar with yours Ryzen 5, and a380 low pwer. Whenever i play cs2, the fps wasn't that good, since somehow the Ryzen 5 got usage spam, the gpu won't reach it max potential.
As a film student. This is amazing for av1. Also when using it for gaming I would use it as a secondary gpu to focus on Losses Scaling rather than actual game tasks
Personally I don't know why anybody would complain about a $100 card with the latest features that can output playable frame rates in the latest demanding (and largely unoptimized) games. Do people really expect a low power card to drive high resolution high refresh rate games on high settings? It still wins by default because every other GPU in it's price class is a woefully inadequate and overpriced display adapter like the 1630 or 6400.
When available ALWAYS buy the low profile version of a GPU, they hold value way better. $$$
Out of all the negative reviews I've seen for this card, I have always chosen to be cautiously optimistic about it. You finally convinced me the glass was half empty all along...
...unless you need it for encoding, of course
This was the only “I can’t tell if this is discrete graphics or not” gpu that I tried years ago. Was such a bad, buggy mess. I commend you for trying to make it work again.
We are the beta testers for intel
years ago? It couldnt have been that long.
@@t1e6x12It released in September 2022, so you got another seven months. And if he bought it then, it *really* was that bad.
just bought an a380 for a workstation (no gaming intended at all on it, just basic use).. honesly only bought it because i got it for $99 bux new and i thought itd be neat to own one of intels first goes at a graphics card lo... its in the mail atm.. hope it does what i need it to do.. which is basically just be a fancy adapter for browsing and streaming services lol
Intel needs to do well in this market, and I think they’re (intel) wanting to keep going
I thought I was on the wrong channel with that video intro. Stomach churning.
FYI CDPR finally fixed that weird performance bug in cyberpunk 2077 with Vega GPUs.
Just in time for a replay for me.
i own the a380,a750, rx 570, rx5700xt and the rx 6650 xt and i have used the a 380 in my system which is a 12100f on a b660 mb and it plays alot better in my racing games than what you ended up with. ive uninstalled and reinstalled both intel cards and never have a driver not install. now i have noticed that the a380 seems a bit fuzzy or soft looking and the a750 has some slight glitches on the front bumper of cars but other than that both cards just work in my system,and yes i have rebar and xmp on.
i can't believe this channel isn't as big as the other tech channel what a shame
Can you add graphs when compared to other video cards or compare it to the RX 6500? I know back in the day Intel would use more Vram than Radeon/Nvidia. Not sure if they fixed it but it would be interesting to see how it compares :)
He does use graphs but if the game got updated he doesn't use old results.
The fact this conversation is even happening is a bit depressing. While the 6600 is great for the price I'm not feeling compelled by it's performance. The encoding aspect of the A380 intrigues me though and I'd certainly have a use for it. That driver install looks challenging to say the least but it's probably not going to put me off. I have a 7800xt for gaming so this looks like something I could use in a second build dedicated to all things video related.
Not a bad little card stuck a low profile one in an old 8th gen hp sff office pc and its fairly decent performer for gaming its dirt cheap and blows the 6400 out of the water
Daily Arc user here - 1440p A770 - i really do not understand all with people having problem installing the drivers - i would blame OR your OS bloated with older drivers from previous cards (if you switch GPUs here and there) and nothing else
i mean - i can just do a fresh install of OS, download WHQL drivers for my Arc and i never had any problems :/
i mean - i had rough start when Arc came out but for past year it was no problem whatsoever
Would love to see productivity benchmarks for this card.
I would love to see some other benchmarks other than gaming, like Ray Tracing, 3D Rendering, AI Image Generation etc
damn I thought you were gonna stat the video saying you were gonna trad climb cheddar gorge with that opening video
do you need my old buldozer platform for more CPU bound scenarios for driver overhead testing? /s
Was hoping you might review the lp version but this is great too
I hope Battlemage delivers so Intel can take some market share and force AMD and Nvidia to be a bit more competitive. Hopefully Moore Threads(made by nvidia china ex ceo) and Innosilicon(using license powerVR IP) in China can also get their act together and make some competitive products.
Lol this is why Intel has such a tough road ahead. You said you wanted them to succeed so AMD and Intel will be more competitive (drop prices), not because you’d like an intel gpu.
@@eli72481 I can't buy an intel gpu until it is competitive. not just a lower price
Finally an honest review of this card
I see that there is an A310 but can’t find any videos about it. I’d like to hear more about that card simply because no one talks about it.
Why didn't you run a comparison with the 6400, 6500xt and 1650 that you mentioned as peers?
babe wake up, new iceberg tech video
in europe or something where rtx 4090TI can be found for 15 bucks these lower price cards such as the intel arc A310 or A380 are real good if you want something more than integral and even with 1650 and 1660 being up to 200 bucks might very well be the only good cheap option but if your american just get an rtx 5090TI for 2 dollars
I meant cant be
It is made for gaming but honestly cheap workstation cards are needed too
Was it a hot take if I say Alan wake 2 is only demanding cus it’s using mesh shaders from UE5 which is in a way controlled obsolescence?
well it's not a hot take, it's just plain incorrect. it uses software Ray tracing, similar to lumen when RT settings are off, which is why it's so hard to run a lot of the time
You didn't encounter driver overhead because all of these titles run at DX12 which intel driver implements natively and it's for older DX versions DX9,10,11 that they implement gpu call translation to I believe it was vulkan(?). I think those are the cases where people encountered higher driver overhead which is just bound to be there since translation will always have extra work that needs to be done.
The people claiming it isn't "for gaming" are coping
If the goal was to create a media encode accelerator, it would simply be that 😜
great take on the A380 , had one, sold it fast, ELSA RX 5500 XT is a much better way to go, even though its 4th gen by 8 it run pretty good on Zen 2 and a B450, a A380 will not to say the least, i am wanting to try an A580, the performance would justify a B550 and a R3 3100, and would assume with the 256 bit bus it will age well, im wondering if its not going to be the next RX 580 ounce Intel gets its drivers figured out, i mean if you look at performance of a A770 and the hardware in it , it should be trading blows with GPU in a class more than 30% higher performance, but who knows what the future will bring for ARC, and would pricing be as good as it is if Intel didnt need people to pay to be ALPHA tester
Here as always brother. Let's see how I feel about the a380 after this vid 👀
7:25. Absolutely, that's like 2x ther perf I had running TLOU through RPCS3 on my 9750h laptop ^^
Can you test RTX 3050 6GB to see how much worse it is compared to the original version?
I have one on order, but it won't arrive until next weekend.
@@IcebergTech okay thanks!
Would like to see a RX 7600XT review
3:54 underrated pun
Still got an 1650 GTX, been wondering if the improved Arc drivers mean the A380 can outperform the 1650 now?
I don’t have a 1650 to test against it anymore, but from my results the Arc scores better in Cyberpunk but worse in Forza Horizon 5. They are the only tests I’ve done on both cards - except Fortnite and Warzone, and they don’t really count as those games can change quite a bit over the course of a year.
@@IcebergTech 3050 6GB out now, but £170 against an £120 A380, I've got mixed feelings.
@@dcikaruga Hmm. I’ve got an MSI LP model on order with eBuyer, but they’re not expecting stock until next Friday and I see Scan have it now…
@@IcebergTech I'm after the Kalmx version but can't find any retailers out there right now. Please do a review when you get it anyway, not expecting to be impressed, but as least its low power.
Hi there, Intel arc a380 user here. I primarily use this card for video encoding along side my 7900XT. (Because AMD's encoders are just terrible and recording on x264 on 1440p60FPS is almost impossible if u want a decent looking recording without compromising on file size) And I had to send back my 7900XT recently due to overheating issues (It was a ref model so it probably had a faulty vapor chamber. Look that up if u dont know what it is) Anyways. I normally play on 1440p 165Hz. And with my little arc card it can play on 1440p with somewhat decent fps if you decide you can turn down eye candy settings a bit or even you dont play much visually demanding games. Been enjoying BTD6 on this little card and it runs it pretty much flawlessly. same with a few roblox games if you turn the graphics down a bit. For a gpu that was ment pretty much just for encoding I am genuinely shocked at how well it performs when it is not encoding (Ontop of being in my second slot of my mobo. So its not even being utilized to its absolute fullest potential.)
And before anyone tells me I should move it, Yes I know. But im simply too lazy and dint wanna move it to the top slot. Then move it back after I get my 7900XT back from XFX.
But overall im extremely impressed at what this little 110$ GPU can do with what I throw at it. If you dont need to play the latest and greatest and you play indies. Maybe a competitive game here n their. This little GPU packs alot more punch than 1 might think for its really really low price.
still have my a380. will probably buy another soon.
The adjective "gaming" as used in hardware advertising is meaningless. Anyway, I needed a card with three display ports to run 3 4K 60Hz monitors, and this was the cheapest brand new option I found at £108 on Amazon. It will be installed on an Intel DH55PJ socket 1156 motherboard rocking a i7 860 and 16GBs of 1333MHz DDR3, so gaming was never even a consideration. If I ever sell it, I will describe it as a 480p gaming behemoth.
I've been considering getting one to add AV1 encoding to my current PC, y already have a good enough for RX 6700, but i would really benefit from getting AV1 encoding, so i think i will try getting one used.
Something to stick into a cheap SFF Optiplex off eBay, perhaps.
Low profile GPUs are a pain in general. 4060 from Gigabyte is an obvious choice if you're building a modern system, but it's too expensive for a low budget build. It also requires an additional 8-pin power connector, so in many cases you're stuck with a rat nest of adapters trying to squeeze some juice from a spare molex.
From what I gathered A380 performs about the same as similarly priced 1650 and 6400.
Two additional gigs of VRAM will probably help with longevity.
I think it should be good enough for Palworld..... :P
The a580 arc card looks like a good buy but iv wonder if the drivers have the same problem
1:30 TBF here, Intel markets its iGPUs for gaming as well, even has an entire database of games and recommended settings, depending on which one of their glorified video decoders you actually have, usually 720p and low/ultra-low. BUT LOOK! ALL THESE GAMES WILL RUN! Somehow. Barely.
I find it interesting that the ryzen 3100 out performed the 7500f in *ANYTHING*. The 3100 doesnt even have the cores accessing the same l3 cache(its in a 2+2 config for its cores) where the 7500f, all the cores ARE using the same wad of cache. The clockspeed, PCI Bus speed and memory technology all should be in the 7500f's favor. Is it Rebar weirdness?
The Arc A380 has two advantages over a lot of other video cards -- there is a low profile version for all those people repurposing cast off Dell Optiplexes, and it's cheap enough to actually consider using. And while it may not be as fast as a Rx6400, I believe it has the video encoders that the AMD part lacks...
It's faster (usually, like Iceberg showed with the Forza results, a lot of things are a work in progress) than a 6400. The problem is that Re-Bar is *mandatory* to get there and the performance hit for not having it is worse than being on a PCIe 3.0 setup for the 6400. Unless you got a really decent deal on a 9th Gen Intel or later Optiplex, it's not worth it.
It's a poor man's video encoder/e-sports card, which works for me, but I can easily see where this doesn't for a lot of people.
Something seems off. Performance is variable between different channels. IDK what's going on.
isn't this gpu close to the power level of the ryzen 8600G's integrated?
My experience with APUs has been in mini PCs, and they tend to stutter more in really demanding titles. I guess the stutter is related to either power or RAM speed, both of which would be better on the desktop versions, so.... I dunno, I think the Arc might have the edge.
intel wishes, do not forget that the apu has better support on old titles, while intle is doing a attempt to emulate stuff
Honestly I love it 🌟it's not the best but it's not trying to be 🙃 I bought the LP version for my HP PC that has a i5 10500 and 16gb ram I have no regrets because I know with future driver updates it will just get better
There is a Matrox Luma A380 version now, that is absolutely not for gaming but maybe more stable drivers than the other variants? :|
The new AMD APUs could be an alternative for media PC since they all support AV1 encode.
Another reason to buy older GPU over this is that you will need rebar which you might not have on an old system.
also - fun note about that MILLSE RX 5500 8GB from Ali - it is AMD Radeon Pro W5500 flashed to be "RX 5500"
there is no RX 5500 or 5500 XT with 8GB, but W5500 is using same core, same CU count, same bus etc -> but it has 8GB
Techincally.... it should run on par of GTX 980, GTX 1650 Super or RX 6500 XT
OH LORDY that cpu usage in Avatar, it might as well not be on 🤣
At my company we just buy tons of these GPU since it's capable of handling both AV1 encode/decode and VP9 bitstream & decoding for our Conferancing Server needs & the price also cheep.
i dont understand why people getting lower framerates in cp77 on medium settings than me, i keep getting 50-60 most of the time
This Video Is more of a fusion of memes and a review
The main issue with these intel cards is the prices, there is no reason to act as a hardware tester while you could pay the same for an AMD or Nvidia and get better results.
I hope they can become more competitive with the next series (if it ever happens).
A great budget card i can reccomend is RX 5600 XT, yes its has ONLY 6 Gb of Vram but its still very capable in games. In Nvidia related performance i would its between say RTX 2060 Super and 2070
The great news with Intel GPU’s is that they are supplying to a market segment forgotten by the big boys at Nvidia and to a lesser extent AMD, yes the GPU’s might be comparable to 6 - 3 year old GPU’s, but like AMD competing with Nvidia… it is early days, give it another 5 - 10 years and (assuming Intel don’t pull the plug on the Arc project and Battlemage is successful), I think Intel will be a force to be reckoned with in the GPU market… it is early days for Intel after all :)
Loving the content as always good sir, yours and Random’s content are keeping me somewhat sane whilst I look after the little ones during half term… the wife couldn’t book holiday to do it herself lol.
I have also used this time to complete my very own modest PC setup, having been on an ACER Nitro 5 with an i7-9750h and 1660Ti for the last 4 years… I decided to splash out £1k on Scan to treat myself to a Ryzen 5 7600, a B650m Pro RS, some 32Gb DDR5 ram kit and a 7800XT, just need a monitor and keyboard to see if I built it correctly and hopefully it will post 🤣
wait, it doesn't need a 6pin power plug ?
Enabled rebar?
Anyone looking for extreme gaming performance are not going to consider an Arc A380. I picked up the AsRock low-profile Arc A380 over the holidays for a cheap Lenovo E34 SFF build, as only low-profile cards fit it. The low-profile video card market has been very limited for a while. I watched the prices of other cards, such as the RX 6400 and GTX 1650, but they never dropped their prices below $150. So when Intel dropped the price of the A380 under $100, that was when I made the decision to try the A380. And also, almost every SFF PC out there are not equipped with an 8-pin GPU connector, and usually only have 180-240 watt PSUs, so that takes the new RTX 4060 low profile card out of the equation. I got this A380 for $99. Did I expect RTX 4090 performance from a $99, 45 watt GPU? Of course not! That would be foolish. For what this card does, I'm very pleased with it. I'm only a casual gamer anyway, so I don't need more than what this card does for me. I don't understand why you had trouble installing drivers on your computer, as my installation and all subsequent updates have been flawless on Windows 10 Pro. My SFF PC doesn't support reBAR but I can still average 47 FPS on Furmark at 1080 settings. Compare that to the GT 1030 (with the GDDR5), which will only average 21 FPS.
When one is considering a GPU for a budget SFF build, they usually have three things to consider: Price, purpose, and power draw. Intel delivers with the Arc A380.
For those of you who want AV1 but dont need the gaming "performance" of the a380, intel has an a310 card who's sole purpose probably is for encoding. Good luck finding one though
Honest criticism: for a card like this, you should benchmark LoL, CS2, Fortnite (ofc) and hell, FIFA. Popular multiplayer-only/first games for a casual audience. The purpose of the budget/entry card should be to tackle those types of games primarily. It's totally fair to test popular singleplayer and FOTM releases (but even there your selection is lacking - no Hogwarts Legacy, Spider-Man Remastered, Palworld, Baldur's Gate...) but IMO the only purpose for a card like this is for casual kid and MP-focused games.
I kinda agree, though it needs to be said that this level of performance in 2024 is quickly being relegated to last gen titles. That's cool for me, thanks to a backlog, but others probably want something with a little more oomph.
Also, LoL? Really? I had someone play Valorant with it on my PC and while I never took any benchmarks, I could safely say that it was easily cracking 100+ on all high settings. I can't imagine LoL requiring much these days.
Also, the purpose of this card is to be a dirt cheap "this machine kills encoding times" card. Outside of the A310, since all the Arc cards have the same encoding/decoding capabilities, it's the best bang for buck encoder on the market still.
I would like to also think that it does okay in SD as far as broke options go, since Tom's Hardware has it beating a 6700 simply because Intel threw all their money behind AI, but OpenVINO is a headache to get working on Debian atm. I can probably get it jury-rigged, but it's going on the backburner for the moment.
@@EbonySaints That's the point tho, it's a very cheap card and people might be interested in it for playing (F2P) multiplayer games above all else - formally confirming that it DOES run those, while also confirming what settings and results are, would be helpful. If someone asks me if they should buy this card for a dirt-cheap rig, I'd like to know that I can confidently say yes/no!
hey iceberg was thinking why not a review to see if the msi gs63 7rd stealth is a good budget gaming, i only say as my little brother got one recwnrly i dont want him to have a bad experince (ebay returns)
also love the video bro u deserve more subs ❤
Laptops aren’t high on my priority list I’m afraid. All my previous laptop reviews haven’t been very successful
They're still a little behind when it comes to gaming. I do appreciate to see Intel putting effort into these though. It seems like it's going through something similar that Ryzen 1000 went through when it comes to use cases. Productivity workloads seem to be decent for these little budget cards just like the 1st iteration of Ryzen did much better at productivity than gaming.
I'm still mostly an AMD person, but more choice and competition is always welcome! I'd be a liar if I said I wasn't tempted to pick an A750 or A770 for some specific use cases.
is there still no vr support
Hmm, id be interested to see Esports games tested, i reckon it might be good for that, if someone also wants to build an all intel gaming PC
the quadros, firepros and teslas are not for gaming either yet we love to tinker with them :D
i hope intel improve on the next gen battle mage
Isn't the A380 supposed to be tested with an Intel CPU
no, because it is made to be a graphics processing unit in a pci express slot, not to be a accesory of power hungry intel cpus. it has to work everywhere
@@betag24cn but it works best with Intel and Intel motherboards
@@edwardelric717As someone with an all Intel build, those results line up with what I got, at least with RE4 and Cyberpunk.
@@edwardelric717 are you a reviewer? can you back that up?
it means it is a bad product then, you pay more to waste more electricity and get less
your point is not a good point, if it is true.
@@EbonySaints Did you use XESS instead of FSR?
I really don't wanna upgrade my platform but i do want a gpu that doesn't bottle neck with i5 4590 probably last time a checked 1050 ti is have 0 % bottle nack showing in pc-builds now arc a380 is showing 0% bottle neck so what your thoughts about getting a arc a380 for my i5 4590 i just wanna play games that's all with out getting bottle necking
Rtx 3050 6 gb is launching soon i think
There are no gamers on a budget. That segment is covered by those who wait to get a bigger budget, or those who instead make the mistake of buying a console instead. Nvidia and AMD understood this early enough.
i trust the GPU team at Intel, they have world class engineers from both other teams. the software team is currwntly grinding through 20 years worth of driver development in 2-3 years.
Intel needs to keep this project funded, it will not return on investment in the first few generations, but it will soon after if the hardware and software team keep working this hard.
but i can't afford to spend my money to justify the cost for them. its on them to keep the budget high enough to work, without going bankrupt. i kinda need less headaches, and for Linux, thats AMD.
You probably should've mentioned Starfield's poor optimization, and the fact it's built on an old engine. Or, given it's just an ok'eish game, omit it, it's not a good reference for benchmarking.