Pulsed radio frequency fixes this condition. Drs and neurosurgeons know this and won’t admit to its effectiveness in reducing and curing pain. Pulsed radiofrequency rather than continuous as pulsed prevents nerve destruction at temp of 42 degrees.
Hi, I first experienced it in 2003, I was 30, I had been in a really bad accident a year before, serious back and abdominal injuries (still suffer from those today) then 10 months later was hit head on again! At some point I noticed a pain in my jaw, felt like a toothache, but it would come and go. Over days and weeks it got worse and worse. I explained it to my fam doc cause I couldn't figure it out. Her actual response to me was "Oh shit!" Took me off guard of course, she told me to look up Trigeminal Neuralgia. Only had it a handful of times back then, until a couple years ago it happened again. Last week it hit me hard. BUT, I've been getting ketamine/spravato treatments for depression, when I left the office, the TN was almost gone, and other then a few twinges, it hasn't started back up. Ask your doc about it, because my body chemistry is resistant to MOST medications and treatments, if it worked for me, maybe it'll help others!!
I have had very rare shooting pain in my gums on my left side. It’s always left me thinking maybe I have a cavity. Cut to months later and recently, I have felt a weird sensation in my left cheek… kinda feels like ants as I am out for my jogs. I thought I was over caffeinating because I have been guilty of that in the past, but now it’s accompanied by jaw joint pain (both sides). I too am pretty resistant to most meds so I’m wondering how you got into ketamine treatments. Thank you for any info you can provide.
Trigeminal’s Neuralgia is not called the “suicide disease” for nothing many doctors say it’s the worst pain known to man I had it when I was 35, like that young lady with you. I suffered for 9 months and my doctor was wise enough to send me to a neurologist surgeon I had micro decompression If I can help anyone on here on how to cope I’m here It’s horrible-I don’t wish this on ANYONE!!! Cold later was not a choice for me
Hi Canoegirl!! You can ask anything😊 They had found that normally it’s an artery pressing on the Trigeminal nerve, and they normally put a piece of teflon in between, but mine was different Here it was a almost a “ball-like” amount of veins pressing against the nerve, so they cauterized the veins and I’ve been okay now for almost 15 years So I believe they saw this in the CT scan they gave me and thought the microvascular decompression was the way to go If you ever need anything, please don’t hesitate to reach out I completely get it, and I’m a nurse and never heard of this disease Do you currently have it?? If you don’t mind me asking, if you have anymore questions or need to talk I’m here for you I had no one, I was so scared TC of you please!!!💜
@@kimee910 thank you so much! My name is Jules. I’m Canadian but live in Holland. I’m going through this now so thank you dearly for answering. I’m going to have an mri soon as I ah so feel there’s so much pressure on the right side/ ear area as well. So grateful for any advice. Xx
For the parent of the child, my heart goes out to you both. Yes, children can get it though it isn’t as common as in someone over 40 say. She needs to be properly diagnosed by a neurologist, other things can cause facial pain and you want her on the right treatment. It took an MRA ,like an MRI but focuses on blood vessels, for me to get a definitive answer. Bless you both.
Have there been any studies showing the efficacy for this treatment? Would rather see those over, no offense, what appears to be a sales rep for this specific device.
I’ve had this since 2019 I actually think I had it since I had a root canal but it didn’t bother me often .. anyway 2019 after a triple neurectomy for a hernia I started getting these 3 days later.. The pain was so bad I cried myself to sleep.. the pain was as if someone was poking at my face and brain with an ice pick from the inside out ! I’ve broken my collarbone, ankle had many surgeries have taken bad falls and this is by far the worst pain I have ever had.. don’t wish it on anyone.. can’t eat,can’t brush my teeth,wash my face,lick my lips, pucker to drink out of a straw.. it would hit So bad at points I Would see a flash of darkness.. so they put me on triliptal 4 times a day.. I got myself down to 1 A day .. I’ve had this since 2019 and medication cured it.. but now it’s back.. not as severe but I’m Constantly getting “shocks” Makes u just want to quit.. I just started gabapantan so hopefully I can get it to stop because this relapse is just defeating!
This had happened with RCT in my teeth and got this unbearable pain TGN. It's really painful, so guys, be careful when you go for the dental treatment, choose the best Doc
I’m 31 years old and I have experienced the same thing. I literally had 3 of my back right teeth pulled at different times and was told nothing was wrong with them but was desperate for relief. I decided to do some research and came across this. Thank you for this video ; I’m going to buy this laser.
I've been suffering from trigeminal mandibular chronic pain. Everything you say in the video is spot on. I do acupressure on my face and it gives temporary relief, a few minutes, but relief non the less. I will try you method with the cold therapy. I subscribed for further information. Thank you.
I have this. It’s so painful! Mine is on the left side only from my jaw line then stops at my ear canal. 8-15 times a day. I need to get this fixed. Calling Dr this week.
Thank you for this information i lost 6 tooth because of that kind of pain, all kind of scans were done to figure out the real cause of pain. The pain is so disturbing.....
Long history of TN pain. Originally from dental work. Finally after 30 some years a Chiropractor got the most recent episodes right. C1 and C2 in my neck causing most recent episodes which also triggered vertigo. Episodes not constant in the 30 years nor did I stay medicated or surgery intervention. So glad I did not as some do. I do not wish such pain in anyone.
@@user-cw5yr5ew8o the only brain scans resulted in finding an aneurysm, I choose to not have any surgery done, it is stable and has remained so for nearly 7 years now with plenty of room around it.
@@MunteanuAdrianXD I go for adjustment every 2 weeks and have not had facial pain nor vertigo for some time. If I go to long I begin to have slight facial pain and know I need to get in. Every 2 weeks works well.
I think he is a bit muddled about the causes. A bit worrying. Patient was diagnosed only 5 days ago. Did she bypass the Consultant neurologist and go straight to this company?
We don't know what causes TN, there can be various reasons. Dental work,stress, sinus infection, etc... that triggers it. Not muddled at all. I also do a neurological evaluation beforehand. We can't possibly film every visit especially the first initial exam. Chiropractors in many states do emg and NCv testing (I do them, that's a neurological test) what would a neurologist do for a patient with TN?? The same cookie cutter approach they've been doing for decades. Drugs and more drugs. Maybe some botox or gabapentin. And whatever sticks to the wall they'll go with. Not our office! We used latest since based technologies to get proven results
@SandeepKumar-xl5jw Doctor has given me pain killer. If it pains a lot then i take it. Otherwise dr says there is no medicine or treatment for it except surgery.
I developed mild TN symptons almost 1 year after the Covid vaccine. I was surprised to find this article after an exhaustive search "Central Nervous System Demyelination Following COVID-19 mRNA-Based Vaccination: Two Case Reports and Literature Review" - There are a lot of people out there in reddit and medicine forums, but search engines won't help much... Weird, huh?
@@amylejeune7128 I have MS since’98(diagnosis) and now i developed TN also,is horrible! I try not to think about mRNA-vaccines but it looks like 👍.! Is disturbing the nervous system…nobody bilive😱 Is helping (except the medication) the natural vitamins Sea Moss!!!I hope I help you understand that is difficult 😞
@@amylejeune7128so sad to hear this, at the moment supplementing (vitamin D3, NAC, Ashwaganda) have been helping me with some of the symptoms, as they are mild, sometimes they come and go in intensity. Will be trying Transfer factors soon!. So bad too many doctors can't really figure out or accept whats going on. Wish you the best to your mom, and lets hope we get better!.
@@gabikynigou2523 Massage the opposite side of the head and cut out all Seed Oils (PUFA) and cut out sugars and carbs. Lots of fatty red meat will help. I promise.
thanks for your video. i am in the process of finding out if I do, in fact have TN/ I have an MRI scheduled early december. how can i find a dr in blue ridge ga who does the cold laser? any recommendation? thanks. bon
I have TN. But all the info that I've found about it is about the jaw & the face. My TN is behind my eye & in my head - ie opthalmic & I can't find anything about it. The #1 go-to drug, Carbamazepine had no effect at all. I'm now on Gabapentin which, although taking a month to kick in, seems to be working. No-one has mentioned this laser thing, but would it work with opthalmic TN?
Gabapentin wasn't work for me, only carbamazepine or oxcarbazepine will work. I think TN patient can looking for chiropractor to check their neck and jaw
@@Muswell i think that was very hard for you and other TN patients, i was have TN too , the first i think my teeth problem after checked TN in my jaws near lips. I hope all can be relieved and cured.
I’ve had so many accidents/injuries to my spine/head, for years I’ve been in severe pain from top to toe. Not one doctor, specialist, chiro, physio has even mentioned TN to me. I recently found out from doing my own research and I can tick all the boxes. I’m so devastated, at times the pain is so bad I don’t know how to continue life. I’m going to research more, hopefully it’s not too late to find relief… I’m in Sydney, Australia. If someone can point me in the right direction I would be very grateful, thank you 🙏
If treatment is terminated too early than yes it can come back with high levels of stress, or a trigger like dental work with mouth left open for awhile. We have not seen any cases return, except for my wife. Haha, she has it and never follows through with treatment. Our family is sometimes the moat difficult to treat.
@@Synergywellnessny lol agreed. Thank you for the reply, may I ask how is the treatment protocol? As in how many weeks and times one has to go. And can this help with any cause of trigeminal neuralgia? Wether its from blood vessel compression, tmj, trauma/injury?
Mine started when I got Covid in 2020 but got much worse strangely with severe year long ear infections on the same side. The laser treatment sounds awesome. What is the laser instrument called?
I see someone liked the question and I’ve found the answer so here it is if you’d like to know: the trigeminal neuralgia involves damage to the sensory root of the nerve only and so pain is felt because the spinal root is intact. In fact the pain is surgically annulled by tractotomy of the spinal tract of the trigeminal nerve
Trigeminal neuralgia run in the family along with migraines. I think they’re very connected at this time. I’m having a migraine and migraine cheek is killing me
i bought a cool laser and started treatment. The effect/affect was slow. But at two weeks i changed from 3 times a day over 5 minutes on 3 areas to 3 times a day for 15 minutes on only one spot each time. well more time on a spot resulted in 99% of the TN pain ending. I am going to continue treatment as you can do it while watching tv or other things
Is it possible that it was subsiding on its own anyway? When my husband goes thru and episode, it slowly diminishes over the course of days/weeks, depending on the severity of the episode. I am determined to find a cure for him though. I feel so helpless when he is dealing with this horrible condition.
@@Synergywellnessny where can you buy the laser? My issue is not really pain but constant numbness on the right side of face and what feels like my right ear is blocked…
I was diagnosed about 7 years ago. I take 400mg 3 times a day. It’s been good but 2 months ago the meds stopped working. My pain is in my right eye, brow and nose. It is very hard for me to be outside in direct sun. Where can I get the laser treatment?
Would this help with electric shock feelings in face and scalp? I've had it for over two months no pain just the shocks. All on the right side of my face. I do wear a full set of dentures I wonder if this could contribute? Thanks
Sounds like you have trigeminal neuralgia. Your best bet is to have an MRI done on the trigeminal nerve root and see if there's vascular compression. If there is, you can have microvascular decompression surgery. Which is about 95% effective. There are other less invasive procedures like gamma knife, glycogen injections, cyber knife, etc. Go get an MRI and say you're concerned it is trigeminal neuralgia.
@@kkiam3928you need to get properly diagnosed first. Have you gotten an MRI that shows compression on the trigeminal nerve? If not, that's step one. I was misdiagnosed as hanging TN. Went to the brain surgeon and he said it was my tmj. Just had surgery on that a few weeks ago and is starting to improve.
What cold laser therapy brand/device would you recommend? Also is the cold laser therapy a permanent fix; or do I have to go for surgery to have the pain completely stop? My doctor prescribed me Carbamazepine, but the pain is coming more frequent now and is like an electrical shock sensation alongside my right lower jaw bone and at times rings in my ear. The pain comes sporadic and hurts more when I chew. I have had TMJ before but it was many years ago, and I relieved it by doing home remedy workouts with my jaw. I used to get severe headaches and grind my teeth a lot from just nervousness/fear/anxiety, but notice I still grind my teeth, so I try to relax as much as possible and take it easy. At first, I too made the mistake by going to my dentist thinking I had a bad cavity, but my dentist told me he didn't see anything wrong. So I then went to my primary care, and he discovered it was Trigeminal Neuralgia, and that is what he prescribed to me. If you have any recommendations on a device I can purchase, please do let me know and thank you. Your video was very helpful.
You can try Oxcarbazepine, to change carbamazepine. I think you can try to meet this doctor. And you can try looking for chiropractor to check your neck and jaw.
I am keeping my fingers crossed, I have light to moderate TN, and yes I had 3 teeth removed chasing TN, I bought a cold laser device, how many times a day should I use it?, how many minutes per session?, and how many days in a row are a treatment sessions... thank you for the video.
1200 mg daily pregabalin, 200 mg carbamazepine and 2 mg dilaudid and assorted high potency compounded ketamine and lidocaine topicals did NOTHING for a horrendous total right side neck, scalp and ear shingles coverage that made my preexisting trigeminal neuralgia absolute agony in my post herpetic stage. Nothing's helped so far, except for one general nerve block I recvd last week between the c2-c4 just in the fleshy part of the neck. Helped the scalp itching until I bled issue a bit, but not the jolting fireballs of excruciating and incessant itching and burning pain in the jaw, neck and exquisitely sensitive outer ear. I need another block, but it's hard to get one without trying to access one in the ER, and waiting for 10 hours, where you may or may not get the block, depending on the availability of the doctors on hand.
All my teeth are gone and pain in every spot around my jaw, seen dentist, oral surgeons, a face pain doctor and even seen a Trigeminal doctor who was more interested in playing with my long hair then trying to fix me. I am presently taking Gabapentin 1200 mgs lamotrigine 100 MG for pain and pilocarpine 20 mgs that keeps me getting dry mouth, all in all it really destroys your quality of life.
Worst pain ever had. No meds helped, had surgery 15 years ago in hospital 3 days, off work a month. Do not wish this pain on anyone. It 1st started after radiation treatments after breast cancer, went to remission for years , came back and 2 meds combined not helped.
I always go to doctor because of this problem.. but all of my lab test is normal. They can't even know the diagnosis. Maybe 20 times more i always go to doctor.even how many medicine i take, the pain ang lump doesnt ease..😢
A retrospective review of patients who received steroid treatment showed that steroids reduced pain levels and a need for surgical intervention. Future research that prospectively offers steroids will better define their role as an adjunctive medicine in acute trigeminal nerve pain management.26 okt 2022
I'd think that through - ***why*** would a steroid help? Please see my longer comment I made today and see if it gives you a different angle to think about. Good wishes to you!
Thank you for the wonderful information. How many sessions per week ? And do you need to repeat the sessions in the future? Also what are the parameters used like power and energy?
Typically see a patient 3x a week for 4 weeks. Then if needed 2x a week for a few weeks on severe cases. Typically it goes away and we do not see patients back. However i recommend maintenance care especially if there is spinal disc degeneration
How much is the machine. I desperately need a quick remedy. How can l get it. I have been suffering from TN for more than 10 years consecutive pain. Please
Can I ask if you have Trigeminal neuralgia on the right side of the face would you then use a cold / red laser therapy device on that same right side or the left? I only ask as I watched a video about some exercises but doing it on the opposite side. Thanks so much 🙏
I'm a civilian - but in my experience, yes. My pain went to one ear and I even tried an ER visit in 2022 - what a waste of $2,100. My pain would also be in the rear back corner of my tongue area - making swallowing (sometimes) very very difficult.
Well it dosen't seem clear does it? I have been previously diagnosed with TMJ but due to having further teeth out I haven't been wearing my tooth guard - now the symptoms have progressed and it's more like TN.
My pain started right after the clearing-up of face & inner mouth Shingles. The Shingles missed the inner eye (thank goodness)...but the needle & lightening-like pain was on & off throughout the day on the very outer eye bone & temple...with needle-like pain shooting maybe 10-15 times, lasting 5 minutes or so. I have to use pain cream for now, that's working. Called "Ascend": Silver Sulfadiazine Cream, USP 1%. (RX Only)**this is an Amazing cream for easing the pain for 3-4 hours.
Question I finished my breast radiation after 3 weeks I start this pain I went with my dentists he told me is trigéminas neuralgia do you think breast radiation
Great question , I believe some side effects of radiation can include paresthesia and numbness. I'm not sure of a correlation between trigeminal neuralgia and radiation. Hope your on the mend and cancer free 💙🙏
I was one of the patients that pulled 2 teeth! I’m still in pain and nobody knows what it is. I went to neurologist and he said there is nothing he can do. Is cold laser therapy covered by insurance or it’s an alternative treatment?
I think I need to start a TN channel! While his info is very good here, I also added a comment today. I hope it can possibly be a thought starter for folks like you to get relief. In my case, I couldn't even talk for much of about 3 years.
Just curious. Would the TQ Solo be effective for home treatment and would the best setting to use be 1000 to 3000Hz? Also how many minutes for each spot?
Hi everyone, i have this since 2019 and go to a dentist then, he said that your wisdom teeth is coming and thia pain is for that, i suffered 5 months and then pain ended, after 4 years in 2023 it came again and visit many dentists then it diagnoses TN and after 5 to 6 months suffered it gone away, now from 3 months i suffered again.. i have in my right side and effected mandibular branch.. it is so worst pain.. automatically triggers periodically.. a neurosurgeon advised me to MVD but i am afraid enough because it is very sensitive surgery. Please anyone suggest me other options
Hello! First of all , I am sorry and I feel for you. I can promise you the cold laser is very effective. You don't have many other options. The surgery doesn't always work and it's invasive! Try laser with a reputable doc that knows what he's doing. Chiropractors typically have cold laser . Praying for you! There is help put there though.
@jkrenee it will not work for trigeminal neuralgia I need a surgery to cover the trigeminal nerve in Teflon I'm booked with a neurosurgeon on the 2nd of September I can't wait 6 years of torture finally at an end
Ive had this nightmare of. This monster for 40 yrs when the pain hits I just want to die. When I run out of my meds that helps100%. I don't know what I would do without my tegretol. I would have just killed myself the pain is unbearable. it's horrible I could just die. No one should have to endure it.
Thanks for sharing this information. All this time I thought I had TMJ. I tried steroid injections and Botox, but nothing seemed to work. I was experiencing the pain around my ear and in front of my ear, accompanied by an electric shock sometimes.
Carbamezapine @@allann7333 is a generic for Tegretol. In my experience, all generics are not created equal, either. I got lucky with the first brand helping me (made by a company called Torrent) , but when the pharmacy changed to a different brand, my ears started to ring - both of them. Just sayin'. I also added a comment to this thread today. I hope it helps others.
I stopped trigeminal neuralgia within a couple of weeks completely by photon light (660, 810, 850nm), mega dose b12 methylcobalamin, and cutting gluten dairy and processed sugar. Getting to the root cause of inglammation, gut health and nutrient deficiencies (in this case damaged the myelin sheath) is the only way to stop it long term and repair the underlying issues. You can overcome this terrible condition x
I had no prior issues and started getting pain in February after I had Covid in January. My blood tests show my b12 is okay but maybe i need more. Are you okay still?
I have this sickness for over 10years and been taking lots of medication very strong medication it does not help me just temporary I plan to do surgery at Yale hospital help
The vaccine has nothing to do with it. Do you know how many millions of people got the vaccine, there’s not suddenly an epidemic of trigeminal neuralgia. Jesus Christ, you people do not think very critically do you.
Yes. Things got crazy after my shot too. I had two teeth pulled and my densest said, no moor puling teeth,,they are fine. I can’t get into see a doc for another days and I can’t eat or run my business. I only get about two hours of pain free time at a time and then it hits.
This had happened with RCT in my teeth and got this unbearable pain TGN. It's really painful, so guys, be careful when you go for the dental treatment, choose the best Doc
Pulsed radio frequency fixes this condition. Drs and neurosurgeons know this and won’t admit to its effectiveness in reducing and curing pain. Pulsed radiofrequency rather than continuous as pulsed prevents nerve destruction at temp of 42 degrees.
It didn't help me
Hi, I first experienced it in 2003, I was 30, I had been in a really bad accident a year before, serious back and abdominal injuries (still suffer from those today) then 10 months later was hit head on again! At some point I noticed a pain in my jaw, felt like a toothache, but it would come and go. Over days and weeks it got worse and worse. I explained it to my fam doc cause I couldn't figure it out. Her actual response to me was "Oh shit!" Took me off guard of course, she told me to look up Trigeminal Neuralgia. Only had it a handful of times back then, until a couple years ago it happened again. Last week it hit me hard. BUT, I've been getting ketamine/spravato treatments for depression, when I left the office, the TN was almost gone, and other then a few twinges, it hasn't started back up. Ask your doc about it, because my body chemistry is resistant to MOST medications and treatments, if it worked for me, maybe it'll help others!!
I have had very rare shooting pain in my gums on my left side. It’s always left me thinking maybe I have a cavity. Cut to months later and recently, I have felt a weird sensation in my left cheek… kinda feels like ants as I am out for my jogs. I thought I was over caffeinating because I have been guilty of that in the past, but now it’s accompanied by jaw joint pain (both sides). I too am pretty resistant to most meds so I’m wondering how you got into ketamine treatments. Thank you for any info you can provide.
Ketamine is a drug. Why would you consider a narcotic over cold laser non habit forming and safe???
@@noillusions8734 how are you now?
How long did you do the treatmentd for? And how long have you been pain free? Please respond
Trigeminal’s Neuralgia is not called the “suicide disease” for nothing many doctors say it’s the worst pain known to man I had it when I was 35, like that young lady with you. I suffered for 9 months and my doctor was wise enough to send me to a neurologist surgeon I had micro decompression If I can help anyone on here on how to cope I’m here It’s horrible-I don’t wish this on ANYONE!!! Cold later was not a choice for me
Are you okay now? May I ask why the laser wasn’t an option?
Hi Canoegirl!!
You can ask anything😊 They had found that normally it’s an artery pressing on the Trigeminal nerve, and they normally put a piece of teflon in between, but mine was different Here it was a almost a “ball-like” amount of veins pressing against the nerve, so they cauterized the veins and I’ve been okay now for almost 15 years So I believe they saw this in the CT scan they gave me and thought the microvascular decompression was the way to go If you ever need anything, please don’t hesitate to reach out I completely get it, and I’m a nurse and never heard of this disease Do you currently have it?? If you don’t mind me asking, if you have anymore questions or need to talk I’m here for you I had no one, I was so scared TC of you please!!!💜
@@kimee910 thank you so much! My name is Jules. I’m Canadian but live in Holland.
I’m going through this now so thank you dearly for answering.
I’m going to have an mri soon as I ah so feel there’s so much pressure on the right side/ ear area as well.
So grateful for any advice. Xx
Hello @kimee I am from Kenya and I have TN it's very much painful kindly assist
@@wanjamiriam5418 -I’m so very sorry to hear this How long have you had it?? Are you taking a medication for it? Have you seen a neurologist??
For the parent of the child, my heart goes out to you both. Yes, children can get it though it isn’t as common as in someone over 40 say. She needs to be properly diagnosed by a neurologist, other things can cause facial pain and you want her on the right treatment. It took an MRA ,like an MRI but focuses on blood vessels, for me to get a definitive answer. Bless you both.
Have there been any studies showing the efficacy for this treatment? Would rather see those over, no offense, what appears to be a sales rep for this specific device.
Where to buy that cold laser therapy machine?
I’ve had this since 2019
I actually think I had it since I had a root canal but it didn’t bother me often .. anyway 2019 after a triple neurectomy for a hernia I started getting these 3 days later..
The pain was so bad I cried myself to sleep.. the pain was as if someone was poking at my face and brain with an ice pick from the inside out ! I’ve broken my collarbone, ankle had many surgeries have taken bad falls and this is by far the worst pain I have ever had.. don’t wish it on anyone.. can’t eat,can’t brush my teeth,wash my face,lick my lips, pucker to drink out of a straw.. it would hit
So bad at points I
Would see a flash of darkness.. so they put me on triliptal 4 times a day.. I got myself down to 1
A day .. I’ve had this since 2019 and medication cured it.. but now it’s back.. not as severe but I’m
Constantly getting “shocks”
Makes u just want to quit.. I just started gabapantan so hopefully I can get it to stop because this relapse is just defeating!
Capsaicin treatment was a godsend for me
Pain was so bad. Had 3 teeth pulled before I learned what was going on
This had happened with RCT in my teeth and got this unbearable pain TGN. It's really painful, so guys, be careful when you go for the dental treatment, choose the best Doc
I’m 31 years old and I have experienced the same thing. I literally had 3 of my back right teeth pulled at different times and was told nothing was wrong with them but was desperate for relief. I decided to do some research and came across this. Thank you for this video ; I’m going to buy this laser.
That laser cost 15 thousand.
@@stellarhyme3 that was really expensive
Would you say the teeth pulling helped you?
Yes exactly I went to an oral surgeon today he said there’s nothing wrong with my teeth even showed me the results of the scan
Cold laser therapy is safe?
I've been suffering from trigeminal mandibular chronic pain. Everything you say in the video is spot on. I do acupressure on my face and it gives temporary relief, a few minutes, but relief non the less. I will try you method with the cold therapy. I subscribed for further information. Thank you.
I have this. It’s so painful! Mine is on the left side only from my jaw line then stops at my ear canal. 8-15 times a day. I need to get this fixed. Calling Dr this week.
Dr Spencer capsaicin treatment stopped the full on attacks on me ! I still have sensations when I eat warm food, but bearable. it worked for me
@@jamesdickson7515 Hi can you tell me what is the capsaicin treatment? And was your pain caused by artery compression or contact?
watch Dr Spencer on RUclips please
@@jamesdickson7515 how often do you do the capsaicin?
@@jamesdickson7515 how many times do you apply it? And are you pain free?
Thank you for this information i lost 6 tooth because of that kind of pain, all kind of scans were done to figure out the real cause of pain. The pain is so disturbing.....
Sorry to hear that
I think we’ve asked a few times which lllt device are you using exactly? Which class ?
Hello friendly friends
I'm 56 yrs old. I've been living with this pain (TN) fo about 3 yrs. It is becoming worse....pain + headaches
Go to a chiropractor
I think this is my health problem,tha doctor said i have tmj,its about 6 months still aching.i hope this will treat early.
Long history of TN pain. Originally from dental work. Finally after 30 some years a Chiropractor got the most recent episodes right. C1 and C2 in my neck causing most recent episodes which also triggered vertigo. Episodes not constant in the 30 years nor did I stay medicated or surgery intervention. So glad I did not as some do. I do not wish such pain in anyone.
@@user-cw5yr5ew8o the only brain scans resulted in finding an aneurysm, I choose to not have any surgery done, it is stable and has remained so for nearly 7 years now with plenty of room around it.
@billiejones9448 Me too! For me it was the atlas bone, C1 and C4
@@jkreneeare your symptoms gone i think I have upper cervical issues causing my pain
How are you now?
@@MunteanuAdrianXD I go for adjustment every 2 weeks and have not had facial pain nor vertigo for some time. If I go to long I begin to have slight facial pain and know I need to get in. Every 2 weeks works well.
Where can i buy the cold laser machine
I think he is a bit muddled about the causes. A bit worrying. Patient was diagnosed only 5 days ago. Did she bypass the Consultant neurologist and go straight to this company?
Neck pain? Stiffness?
Agreed. Please see my comment I made here today.
Exactly!
We don't know what causes TN, there can be various reasons. Dental work,stress, sinus infection, etc... that triggers it. Not muddled at all. I also do a neurological evaluation beforehand. We can't possibly film every visit especially the first initial exam. Chiropractors in many states do emg and NCv testing (I do them, that's a neurological test) what would a neurologist do for a patient with TN?? The same cookie cutter approach they've been doing for decades. Drugs and more drugs. Maybe some botox or gabapentin. And whatever sticks to the wall they'll go with.
Not our office! We used latest since based technologies to get proven results
Where can I buy I quality cold laser therapy set? Which one are you using?
We've done videos on this subject
Hi! Sir, i have Trigeminal Neuralgia. And i have all this problems. Thanks for sharing 🙏
Hi are you taking medicine?
@SandeepKumar-xl5jw Doctor has given me pain killer. If it pains a lot then i take it. Otherwise dr says there is no medicine or treatment for it except surgery.
I developed mild TN symptons almost 1 year after the Covid vaccine. I was surprised to find this article after an exhaustive search "Central Nervous System Demyelination Following COVID-19 mRNA-Based Vaccination: Two Case Reports and Literature Review" - There are a lot of people out there in reddit and medicine forums, but search engines won't help much... Weird, huh?
My mother developed TN after her vaccines too. It’s devastating to see her like this now. Hope you see some relief from this terrible condition.
@@amylejeune7128 I have MS since’98(diagnosis) and now i developed TN also,is horrible! I try not to think about mRNA-vaccines but it looks like 👍.! Is disturbing the nervous system…nobody bilive😱
Is helping (except the medication) the natural vitamins Sea Moss!!!I hope I help you understand that is difficult 😞
@@amylejeune7128so sad to hear this, at the moment supplementing (vitamin D3, NAC, Ashwaganda) have been helping me with some of the symptoms, as they are mild, sometimes they come and go in intensity. Will be trying Transfer factors soon!. So bad too many doctors can't really figure out or accept whats going on. Wish you the best to your mom, and lets hope we get better!.
@@gabikynigou2523 Massage the opposite side of the head and cut out all Seed Oils (PUFA) and cut out sugars and carbs. Lots of fatty red meat will help. I promise.
@@gabikynigou2523I read about sea moss today coincidentally. Is it helping you?
thanks for your video. i am in the process of finding out if I do, in fact have TN/ I have an MRI scheduled early december. how can i find a dr in blue ridge ga who does the cold laser? any recommendation? thanks. bon
I have TN. But all the info that I've found about it is about the jaw & the face. My TN is behind my eye & in my head - ie opthalmic & I can't find anything about it.
The #1 go-to drug, Carbamazepine had no effect at all. I'm now on Gabapentin which, although taking a month to kick in, seems to be working.
No-one has mentioned this laser thing, but would it work with opthalmic TN?
Can you please describe the procedure for taking Gabapentin? that will help a lot.
Gabapentin wasn't work for me, only carbamazepine or oxcarbazepine will work. I think TN patient can looking for chiropractor to check their neck and jaw
@@Mariadi-X Yes. Mine isn't in the face or jaw. It's the top part - behind my eye & in my head.
@@Muswell i think that was very hard for you and other TN patients, i was have TN too , the first i think my teeth problem after checked TN in my jaws near lips. I hope all can be relieved and cured.
@@Muswellhow are you now?
I’ve had so many accidents/injuries to my spine/head, for years I’ve been in severe pain from top to toe. Not one doctor, specialist, chiro, physio has even mentioned TN to me. I recently found out from doing my own research and I can tick all the boxes. I’m so devastated, at times the pain is so bad I don’t know how to continue life. I’m going to research more, hopefully it’s not too late to find relief… I’m in Sydney, Australia. If someone can point me in the right direction I would be very grateful, thank you 🙏
Hi, how often would one need to go for treatment? And is maintenance afterwards required or does pain go away for good?
If treatment is terminated too early than yes it can come back with high levels of stress, or a trigger like dental work with mouth left open for awhile. We have not seen any cases return, except for my wife. Haha, she has it and never follows through with treatment. Our family is sometimes the moat difficult to treat.
@@Synergywellnessny lol agreed. Thank you for the reply, may I ask how is the treatment protocol? As in how many weeks and times one has to go. And can this help with any cause of trigeminal neuralgia? Wether its from blood vessel compression, tmj, trauma/injury?
Mine started when I got Covid in 2020 but got much worse strangely with severe year long ear infections on the same side. The laser treatment sounds awesome. What is the laser instrument called?
Did you get the jab?
@@jenniferheenan8606 I got the jab and I definitely regret doing it :(
Can you explain the difference between cluster headaches and that? Symptons? Im correctly goinf thtough this with the VA
Question: Why do you feel pain when there’s a compression of the trigeminal nerve?
I see someone liked the question and I’ve found the answer so here it is if you’d like to know: the trigeminal neuralgia involves damage to the sensory root of the nerve only and so pain is felt because the spinal root is intact. In fact the pain is surgically annulled by tractotomy of the spinal tract of the trigeminal nerve
Where can you get this? Are there at home devices? I’m in northern California.
Thanks.
Yes you can purchase these lasers by calling us at 212-533-4900
Trigeminal neuralgia run in the family along with migraines. I think they’re very connected at this time. I’m having a migraine and migraine cheek is killing me
Get yourself to a cold laser practitioner
The pain will go forever after using laser therapy??
i bought a cool laser and started treatment. The effect/affect was slow. But at two weeks i changed from 3 times a day over 5 minutes on 3 areas to 3 times a day for 15 minutes on only one spot each time. well more time on a spot resulted in 99% of the TN pain ending. I am going to continue treatment as you can do it while watching tv or other things
What type of laser?
Awesome
Is it possible that it was subsiding on its own anyway? When my husband goes thru and episode, it slowly diminishes over the course of days/weeks, depending on the severity of the episode. I am determined to find a cure for him though. I feel so helpless when he is dealing with this horrible condition.
@@Synergywellnessny where can you buy the laser? My issue is not really pain but constant numbness on the right side of face and what feels like my right ear is blocked…
If the cause was double jaw surgery & the pain is right in the middle of the chin, would you use the laser on the chin or use the other points?
Where s your location in Frisco , Texas .
Where yo locate it?
Thank you very much! Greetings from Serbia! ❤️
Hello Serbia!
I was diagnosed about 7 years ago. I take 400mg 3 times a day. It’s been good but 2 months ago the meds stopped working. My pain is in my right eye, brow and nose. It is very hard for me to be outside in direct sun. Where can I get the laser treatment?
Try an upper cervical chiropractor
What does the cold lazer thingy do?
Would this help with electric shock feelings in face and scalp? I've had it for over two months no pain just the shocks. All on the right side of my face. I do wear a full set of dentures I wonder if this could contribute? Thanks
Sounds like you have trigeminal neuralgia. Your best bet is to have an MRI done on the trigeminal nerve root and see if there's vascular compression. If there is, you can have microvascular decompression surgery. Which is about 95% effective. There are other less invasive procedures like gamma knife, glycogen injections, cyber knife, etc.
Go get an MRI and say you're concerned it is trigeminal neuralgia.
@@kenaultman7499 hello, is mvd surgery risky? I am scared cause its open brain surgery. Is there any chance it leads to death or paralysis?
@@kkiam3928you need to get properly diagnosed first. Have you gotten an MRI that shows compression on the trigeminal nerve? If not, that's step one.
I was misdiagnosed as hanging TN. Went to the brain surgeon and he said it was my tmj. Just had surgery on that a few weeks ago and is starting to improve.
I just have numbness after a migraine no pain but it matches in the areas you just showed
Can you please tell me where I can buy this?
We are an authorized dealer for multi radiance you can call us if interested. 212-533-4900
What cold laser therapy brand/device would you recommend? Also is the cold laser therapy a permanent fix; or do I have to go for surgery to have the pain completely stop? My doctor prescribed me Carbamazepine, but the pain is coming more frequent now and is like an electrical shock sensation alongside my right lower jaw bone and at times rings in my ear. The pain comes sporadic and hurts more when I chew. I have had TMJ before but it was many years ago, and I relieved it by doing home remedy workouts with my jaw. I used to get severe headaches and grind my teeth a lot from just nervousness/fear/anxiety, but notice I still grind my teeth, so I try to relax as much as possible and take it easy. At first, I too made the mistake by going to my dentist thinking I had a bad cavity, but my dentist told me he didn't see anything wrong. So I then went to my primary care, and he discovered it was Trigeminal Neuralgia, and that is what he prescribed to me. If you have any recommendations on a device I can purchase, please do let me know and thank you. Your video was very helpful.
You can try Oxcarbazepine, to change carbamazepine. I think you can try to meet this doctor. And you can try looking for chiropractor to check your neck and jaw.
Try a mouthguard or go to a chiropractor
Get an MRI.. what if you have IAc loop!?
I am keeping my fingers crossed, I have light to moderate TN, and yes I had 3 teeth removed chasing TN, I bought a cold laser device, how many times a day should I use it?, how many minutes per session?, and how many days in a row are a treatment sessions... thank you for the video.
I just developed it over the holiday season. Ugh. Any suggestions on where I can get that cold laser?
bought mine at Amazon
@@dacfile275 Thank You! Going to order one for sure. Thanks again, I truly appreciate it!
How did it work for you?@@dacfile275
@@dacfile275hey how are you doing now?
1200 mg daily pregabalin, 200 mg carbamazepine and 2 mg dilaudid and assorted high potency compounded ketamine and lidocaine topicals did NOTHING for a horrendous total right side neck, scalp and ear shingles coverage that made my preexisting trigeminal neuralgia absolute agony in my post herpetic stage. Nothing's helped so far, except for one general nerve block I recvd last week between the c2-c4 just in the fleshy part of the neck. Helped the scalp itching until I bled issue a bit, but not the jolting fireballs of excruciating and incessant itching and burning pain in the jaw, neck and exquisitely sensitive outer ear. I need another block, but it's hard to get one without trying to access one in the ER, and waiting for 10 hours, where you may or may not get the block, depending on the availability of the doctors on hand.
All my teeth are gone and pain in every spot around my jaw, seen dentist, oral surgeons, a face pain doctor and even seen a Trigeminal doctor who was more interested in playing with my long hair then trying to fix me. I am presently taking Gabapentin 1200 mgs lamotrigine 100 MG for pain and pilocarpine 20 mgs that keeps me getting dry mouth, all in all it really destroys your quality of life.
How can I avail that laser? How much does it cost?
Worst pain ever had. No meds helped, had surgery 15 years ago in hospital 3 days, off work a month. Do not wish this pain on anyone. It 1st started after radiation treatments after breast cancer, went to remission for years , came back and 2 meds combined not helped.
I always go to doctor because of this problem.. but all of my lab test is normal. They can't even know the diagnosis. Maybe 20 times more i always go to doctor.even how many medicine i take, the pain ang lump doesnt ease..😢
A retrospective review of patients who received steroid treatment showed that steroids reduced pain levels and a need for surgical intervention. Future research that prospectively offers steroids will better define their role as an adjunctive medicine in acute trigeminal nerve pain management.26 okt 2022
I'd think that through - ***why*** would a steroid help? Please see my longer comment I made today and see if it gives you a different angle to think about. Good wishes to you!
What type of laser and how long each day? How is she doing now?
I just developed this over the holiday. Where can I get that cold laser?!?!?! This is maddening!! Help!
neurovascular conflict as evidenced by mild impingement of cisternal portion of trigeminal nerves by superior cerebellar. arteries. Is it TN
Thank you for the wonderful information.
How many sessions per week ?
And do you need to repeat the sessions in the future?
Also what are the parameters used like power and energy?
Typically see a patient 3x a week for 4 weeks. Then if needed 2x a week for a few weeks on severe cases.
Typically it goes away and we do not see patients back. However i recommend maintenance care especially if there is spinal disc degeneration
what kind of doctor to check
any kind of solution to recover the pain
@@Synergywellnessny1:10 ...where is located?
How much is the machine. I desperately need a quick remedy. How can l get it. I have been suffering from TN for more than 10 years consecutive pain. Please
15000.
Try looking for chiropractor, maybe your neck and jaw have problem.
Inflammation is caused by sugar and carbs, where can i get this cold light therapy pistol?
Clean carnivore diet and massage the opposite side of the head. Cut out all seed oils, sugars, carbs and processed products.
Can I ask if you have Trigeminal neuralgia on the right side of the face would you then use a cold / red laser therapy device on that same right side or the left? I only ask as I watched a video about some exercises but doing it on the opposite side. Thanks so much 🙏
What brand of laser do you have? How many watts?
We use 25-50watt lasers and rent 15watt lasers
Would this cause ear and throat pain on one side?
I'm a civilian - but in my experience, yes. My pain went to one ear and I even tried an ER visit in 2022 - what a waste of $2,100. My pain would also be in the rear back corner of my tongue area - making swallowing (sometimes) very very difficult.
Is the laser device DME?
Hi. How can you distinguish between TN and tmj. I have some symptoms that seem to overlap with each other
Well it dosen't seem clear does it? I have been previously diagnosed with TMJ but due to having further teeth out I haven't been wearing my tooth guard - now the symptoms have progressed and it's more like TN.
How are you now? I heard that if botox helps then its more likely tmj.
@@cindyjuan1349 I'm ok. Pain comes and goes. Borox did not work for me
@@Heinz57ish tmj can become tn if not taken care of properly?
What cold laser do you recommend?
I've done many videos on this subject please check out our playlists.
I have this and it's a nightmare. Even after MVD and Cyberknife
@KimKalli coldmlaser amd upper cervical manipulation works best
My pain started right after the clearing-up of face & inner mouth Shingles. The Shingles missed the inner eye (thank goodness)...but the needle & lightening-like pain was on & off throughout the day on the very outer eye bone & temple...with needle-like pain shooting maybe 10-15 times, lasting 5 minutes or so. I have to use pain cream for now, that's working. Called "Ascend": Silver Sulfadiazine Cream, USP 1%. (RX Only)**this is an Amazing cream for easing the pain for 3-4 hours.
I just added to what you wrote.
Is the laser treatment safe for ppl
Like me that has diabetes and also itp blood disorder? I also have one kidney as well
Wait…can this cause excruciating headaches where you feel like your head is in a vice grip???
Thank you for this video I will definitely definitely investigate cold Laser therapy. Where can I purchase a cold laser?
We sell multi radiance lasers. Contact us if interested. 212-533-4900
Where can I buy this machine
Question I finished my breast radiation after 3 weeks I start this pain I went with my dentists he told me is trigéminas neuralgia do you think breast radiation
Great question , I believe some side effects of radiation can include paresthesia and numbness. I'm not sure of a correlation between trigeminal neuralgia and radiation. Hope your on the mend and cancer free 💙🙏
Good information thanks
I have this problem It’s very painful I’ve seen a Neurologist but it’s not going away every day I have so much pain 5/15/2024
I was one of the patients that pulled 2 teeth! I’m still in pain and nobody knows what it is. I went to neurologist and he said there is nothing he can do. Is cold laser therapy covered by insurance or it’s an alternative treatment?
I think I need to start a TN channel! While his info is very good here, I also added a comment today. I hope it can possibly be a thought starter for folks like you to get relief. In my case, I couldn't even talk for much of about 3 years.
Please share name of machine
Just curious. Would the TQ Solo be effective for home treatment and would the best setting to use be 1000 to 3000Hz? Also how many minutes for each spot?
It would be but the newer pain away is more versatile
It feels like its coming from teeth but dosctors say my teethare fine..im tired
Yes thsts a common symptom
Hi Doctor how can i get this devise pls i got hard pain can not eat anything
It cost 15000.
bought at Amazon but unknown brand
Hi everyone, i have this since 2019 and go to a dentist then, he said that your wisdom teeth is coming and thia pain is for that, i suffered 5 months and then pain ended, after 4 years in 2023 it came again and visit many dentists then it diagnoses TN and after 5 to 6 months suffered it gone away, now from 3 months i suffered again.. i have in my right side and effected mandibular branch.. it is so worst pain.. automatically triggers periodically.. a neurosurgeon advised me to MVD but i am afraid enough because it is very sensitive surgery. Please anyone suggest me other options
Hello! First of all , I am sorry and I feel for you. I can promise you the cold laser is very effective. You don't have many other options. The surgery doesn't always work and it's invasive! Try laser with a reputable doc that knows what he's doing. Chiropractors typically have cold laser . Praying for you! There is help put there though.
I have it as well. I have the blood vessel around my nerves. Right now, my only solution is brain surgery
thank you doc.
Im booked in on the 20th for my MVD operation i cant wait
Please feedback after your MVD operation
Go to a chiropractor first. They can move the bones pushing the blood vessel into the nerve. It worked for me.
@jkrenee it will not work for trigeminal neuralgia I need a surgery to cover the trigeminal nerve in Teflon I'm booked with a neurosurgeon on the 2nd of September I can't wait 6 years of torture finally at an end
Ive had this nightmare of. This monster for 40 yrs when the pain hits I just want to die. When I run out of my meds that helps100%. I don't know what I would do without my tegretol. I would have just killed myself the pain is unbearable. it's horrible I could just die. No one should have to endure it.
I am in pakistan .I have trigeminal neuralgia how i can do this treatment.
Would a tens machine be effective? I have one.
Hai this what am going through and it chronic migraine how much is that laser machine I have suffered. Please help
15000
@@stellarhyme3....where You bought it?
Did you really paid that much yourself? Too much money for that small device!
I need by this instrument please help
Some dentist don’t care they are going take your teeth’s and your money and some don’t have idea what a trigéminas neuralgia is 😢
Oui ils nous massacrent sans rien nous dire
How do I find a practitioner who utilizes this laser in my area?
Dr Eric Berg
Thanks for sharing this information. All this time I thought I had TMJ. I tried steroid injections and Botox, but nothing seemed to work. I was experiencing the pain around my ear and in front of my ear, accompanied by an electric shock sometimes.
You can try carbamazepine 100mg slow released.
@@Mariadi-XThanks. Was there a noticeable improvement?
Carbamezapine @@allann7333 is a generic for Tegretol. In my experience, all generics are not created equal, either. I got lucky with the first brand helping me (made by a company called Torrent) , but when the pharmacy changed to a different brand, my ears started to ring - both of them. Just sayin'. I also added a comment to this thread today. I hope it helps others.
I stopped trigeminal neuralgia within a couple of weeks completely by photon light (660, 810, 850nm), mega dose b12 methylcobalamin, and cutting gluten dairy and processed sugar.
Getting to the root cause of inglammation, gut health and nutrient deficiencies (in this case damaged the myelin sheath) is the only way to stop it long term and repair the underlying issues. You can overcome this terrible condition x
I had no prior issues and started getting pain in February after I had Covid in January.
My blood tests show my b12 is okay but maybe i need more. Are you okay still?
I’ve not heard of photon light. I’ve heard of ozone therapy but I’m sure these are different.
Where did you get the photon light?
I have this sickness for over 10years and been taking lots of medication very strong medication it does not help me just temporary I plan to do surgery at Yale hospital help
Dr Eric Berg.
The latest treatment is Botox for TMJ, it might help TN
Mine started after COVID shots too.
How many minutes per session? Thank you very much!
It varies, as does the laser for treatment times. There are several factors but on availability 15min
Thanks
My mom got this right after she took her covid vaccine. Ruined her life.
I got mine after regular vaccines.
What do u mean it ruined her life? Are u talking about the cold laser treatment?
The vaccine has nothing to do with it. Do you know how many millions of people got the vaccine, there’s not suddenly an epidemic of trigeminal neuralgia. Jesus Christ, you people do not think very critically do you.
Maybe stop taking vaccines that haven't been tested and were all a lie.
I got it after being assaulted in 2020
Thank you.
Yes. Things got crazy after my shot too. I had two teeth pulled and my densest said, no moor puling teeth,,they are fine. I can’t get into see a doc for another days and I can’t eat or run my business. I only get about two hours of pain free time at a time and then it hits.
We hope you got the right treatment
This had happened with RCT in my teeth and got this unbearable pain TGN. It's really painful, so guys, be careful when you go for the dental treatment, choose the best Doc