vivziepop fans are so toxic, especially the ones on twitter. anytime they see someone criticizing or disliking their shows they repost it on their page and leave their followers to flame it in their comment sections. Using their platform to shit talk anyone who doesn’t have the same opinions they have over a fictional relationship. It’s such immature behavior for 20+ year olds.
There were a buncha people going “he hates asmodeus and fizz but doesn’t hate Millie and moxie because he’s heteronormative!” No, criticizing a pairing that happens to be gay isn’t heteronormative, you know what IS, though? Writing every gay relationship in a sense where one character needs to be “the woman” and the other needs to be “the man”, and I can’t help but notice that happens a lot in helluva/hazbin.
Honestly, this is incredibly immature behaviour. What full grown adult directs hate onto a 17 year old just for disagreeing on a fictional ship? People online, especially on sites like Twitter, never think before they post. If they had rational thoughts, maybe they would actually check out your channel and video first and realize that they are allowing people to hate on somebody younger than they are. Also, It's stupid that they called you homophobic just for pointing out how gay relationships in media are fetishized to such a high extent. Just because somebody criticises a gay relationship doesn't mean they are homophobic. As long as the relationship being part of a minority isn't why somebody dislikes it then it should be fine. People are so quick to defend something they like without even hearing any other perspectives on it.
They actually do think when they post, it's just completely different mindset, that's why nothing will get to them no matter what you do or say, evidence to them is fully wrong because it is against what is truth to them.
I find impressive that someone in your age can be more aware and notice a lot of bullshits in fandoms/communities in general and make reasonable criticisms than 70% of people in their 20s/30s. Seriously, this "Oh it's a minor" thing sounds like they're weirdly waiting for you to turn 18 to get the green light to bully you to death.
It is what it is, something Viv doesnt understand. Woman if you're so sensitive to negative critcism, make a second account, give yours to a PR Manager and/or stay offline. You're a globally renowned and known GROWN WOMAN creator in the big leagues, act like it.
Why are they even making a post on you in the first place? Their bio says “-18 DNI” so why are they interacting with a minor? It doesn’t make sense, its so weird that a full grown adult, a 26 yr old who SPECIFICALLY runs an nsfw account, is making a post about a minor
Dude the maturity that you have compared to these fully grown toddlers is mind blowing. I would love to see some more normal relationships in media (by normal I mean not cringey or poorly portrayed cuz rainbow flag). Hell straight ships can go through the same problems and they have no problem criticizing them, yet gay characters and ships are basically treated like the second coming of Christ. I could probably list a good gay ship and a bad straight ship rn vs the inverse examples too. Good gay ship: Luz and Amity from Owl house, super wholesome, they treat each other like normal people, and Amity actually grows as a person Before they get official. Bad straight ship: Marinette/Ladybug and Adrien/Cat Noir from Miraculous Ladybug, Ladybug treats cat like shit in the fourth season after the entire third season made her a creep, and Adrien is Way too forgiving of her nonsense. Bad gay ship: Stolas and Blitz, we all know why, but fans keep defending Stolas so I'm gonna rant anyway. Blitz is Not ready for a romantic relationship, he literally Just got his best friend back and gave Verosika a little closure, but he is just Not a person who's ready to be emotionally vulnerable with a partner, let alone Stolas who belittles, sexualizes, and gaslights him regularly. Hell Stolas doesn't even treat his own family right. Good straight ship: Gru and Lucy from the Despicable Me movies, they actually take the time to have Gru and Lucy bond, give them a falling out when Gru is obsessed with El Macho, only for him to come to the rescue of her, AND his minions. This is after he became a good person after adopting his three daughters in the first movie and when they're married they still treat each other as normal people. Hell Gru was AFRAID of dating before Lucy came along. Granted all that is my opinion but I think they are good examples. Don't let those jabbering parrots get you down.
It's never been about listening to the argument. They lie and make shit up because they didn't like how you gave criticism at all, Fandom is very anti criticism and that will be more obvious the more you get into critical content just thought I'd let you know. Oh and they'll probably tell you that you have "no media literacy" which just means that you had a take they didn't like
Lol people really think being a minor means not being capable of cirtical thinking 😔, anyways nice art man didnt knew you make art aswell! Keep up the good work dont let this people get to you 💙
yeah that's hazbin/helluva twitter fans alright. they're like the worst of the worst when it comes to criticisms of their beloved shows. i encountered several people like that talking shit to hh critics to the point starting rumors, making up lies and being racists yikes
Damn it, kremlin_art! God, I'm sorry for this whole thing, man. Though it hurts me to hear people talk negatively about the shows I love, it's important to hear not just for the work you love but for your work, too. Your videos and others, Like Mangakamen, help me to see problems in my own work and see how I can improve them, so thank you for that. But, damn, upsetting that Krem did this. I hope you have a good day, and I can't wait to see how you tear into a show I love again XD Jkjk. Have a good day- BYE!
ahh omg the speed paint?!?!♡♡ dude that's so cool I'd love you doing more commentary with speedpaints.! I'm not surprised people got upset abt the video, the helluaverse fandom is a shit show of toxicity
I'll never understand what do adults on Twitter have against minors, specially against the ones who do nothing, it's like the edgy teen who says "UgH, kIdS", and treat them like they have no right to have opinions,
I was expecting this video!!!! Yeah, I can agree with young people cause sometimes they say some smart things. Plus, these "adults" saying "You're a kid, you have no say" is taking freedom of speech away from youth. 😅
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WHY NOT?! WHY WONT YOU USE TWITTER?!
Because twitter killed my grandma, okay?!?!? Now leave me alone..
my uncle broke his neck tweeting once 😔
proud to say i’ve never had twitter nor will i ever get it because holy crap its bad
why did twitter kill your grandma? what was she tweeting?
How did Twitter kill your Grandma? What was she tweeting?
@@brenlc1412 I was the one tweeting
vivziepop fans are so toxic, especially the ones on twitter. anytime they see someone criticizing or disliking their shows they repost it on their page and leave their followers to flame it in their comment sections. Using their platform to shit talk anyone who doesn’t have the same opinions they have over a fictional relationship. It’s such immature behavior for 20+ year olds.
I mean anyone acts like that over something getting criticized so eh
@@ivoneo2806 but the helluva and hazbin fandom are another level dude
@@adinairdonascimento not really, that's nothing new to scoff about, again this world is filled with people who can't take criticism
Maybe don't put the blame on every fan.
Also Viv's toxic haters are worse than her toxic fans.
There were a buncha people going “he hates asmodeus and fizz but doesn’t hate Millie and moxie because he’s heteronormative!”
No, criticizing a pairing that happens to be gay isn’t heteronormative, you know what IS, though? Writing every gay relationship in a sense where one character needs to be “the woman” and the other needs to be “the man”, and I can’t help but notice that happens a lot in helluva/hazbin.
Grown adults and there one sided beef towards minors 😭
@@OmniscientPan exactly, over a show who’s fanbase mostly consists of minors. It’s fucking wild
It’s embarrassing at this rate.
@@crispychickenalfredo Ngl, the fact that it’s mostly of minors is already embarrassing enough
They act like they were never young before
The amount of times this happens is genuinely concerning lmao…
These crazies counting down the days until they can call you slurs for disagreeing w them 😭
Honestly, this is incredibly immature behaviour. What full grown adult directs hate onto a 17 year old just for disagreeing on a fictional ship? People online, especially on sites like Twitter, never think before they post. If they had rational thoughts, maybe they would actually check out your channel and video first and realize that they are allowing people to hate on somebody younger than they are.
Also, It's stupid that they called you homophobic just for pointing out how gay relationships in media are fetishized to such a high extent. Just because somebody criticises a gay relationship doesn't mean they are homophobic. As long as the relationship being part of a minority isn't why somebody dislikes it then it should be fine. People are so quick to defend something they like without even hearing any other perspectives on it.
They actually do think when they post, it's just completely different mindset, that's why nothing will get to them no matter what you do or say, evidence to them is fully wrong because it is against what is truth to them.
trust me,its also bad on reddit,holy cow,if you critize stolas there...
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How what was your grandma tweeting ?
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I find impressive that someone in your age can be more aware and notice a lot of bullshits in fandoms/communities in general and make reasonable criticisms than 70% of people in their 20s/30s.
Seriously, this "Oh it's a minor" thing sounds like they're weirdly waiting for you to turn 18 to get the green light to bully you to death.
Well there are people who are around her age who don't know either so I wouldn't say 70%?
It is what it is, something Viv doesnt understand. Woman if you're so sensitive to negative critcism, make a second account, give yours to a PR Manager and/or stay offline. You're a globally renowned and known GROWN WOMAN creator in the big leagues, act like it.
Why are they even making a post on you in the first place? Their bio says “-18 DNI” so why are they interacting with a minor? It doesn’t make sense, its so weird that a full grown adult, a 26 yr old who SPECIFICALLY runs an nsfw account, is making a post about a minor
Twenty six. The twitter poster is TWENTY SIX years old…
Yeah, I'm the same age as this bitch and I DON'T act like this!!!!
Dude the maturity that you have compared to these fully grown toddlers is mind blowing. I would love to see some more normal relationships in media (by normal I mean not cringey or poorly portrayed cuz rainbow flag). Hell straight ships can go through the same problems and they have no problem criticizing them, yet gay characters and ships are basically treated like the second coming of Christ. I could probably list a good gay ship and a bad straight ship rn vs the inverse examples too.
Good gay ship: Luz and Amity from Owl house, super wholesome, they treat each other like normal people, and Amity actually grows as a person Before they get official.
Bad straight ship: Marinette/Ladybug and Adrien/Cat Noir from Miraculous Ladybug, Ladybug treats cat like shit in the fourth season after the entire third season made her a creep, and Adrien is Way too forgiving of her nonsense.
Bad gay ship: Stolas and Blitz, we all know why, but fans keep defending Stolas so I'm gonna rant anyway. Blitz is Not ready for a romantic relationship, he literally Just got his best friend back and gave Verosika a little closure, but he is just Not a person who's ready to be emotionally vulnerable with a partner, let alone Stolas who belittles, sexualizes, and gaslights him regularly. Hell Stolas doesn't even treat his own family right.
Good straight ship: Gru and Lucy from the Despicable Me movies, they actually take the time to have Gru and Lucy bond, give them a falling out when Gru is obsessed with El Macho, only for him to come to the rescue of her, AND his minions. This is after he became a good person after adopting his three daughters in the first movie and when they're married they still treat each other as normal people. Hell Gru was AFRAID of dating before Lucy came along.
Granted all that is my opinion but I think they are good examples. Don't let those jabbering parrots get you down.
I see you're a fellow believer in Grucy too.
@@darkjelly944 Grucy all the way baby!
I didn't know there was more Grucy stans... Good to see that there are more
I dont think these people realize that, wether they like it or not, the vast majority of Vivzie fans are TEENS
Twitter might end humanity
Imagine life without twitter. Imagine the lower drama level.
"BECAUSE TWITTER KILLED MY GRANDMA, OKAY?"
It's never been about listening to the argument. They lie and make shit up because they didn't like how you gave criticism at all, Fandom is very anti criticism and that will be more obvious the more you get into critical content just thought I'd let you know.
Oh and they'll probably tell you that you have "no media literacy" which just means that you had a take they didn't like
Shouldn’t adults be the ones to have a common sense
Lol people really think being a minor means not being capable of cirtical thinking 😔, anyways nice art man didnt knew you make art aswell! Keep up the good work dont let this people get to you 💙
Not listening to and thinking minors arguments matter would probably leave the world in a low key shitty place 💀
The fact how the show is not just mid but how embarrassing the damn gotta be like 😭😭😭😭
I saw that post and I was like “Leave them alone they my yt goat😭”
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yeah that's hazbin/helluva twitter fans alright. they're like the worst of the worst when it comes to criticisms of their beloved shows. i encountered several people like that talking shit to hh critics to the point starting rumors, making up lies and being racists yikes
Damn it, kremlin_art! God, I'm sorry for this whole thing, man. Though it hurts me to hear people talk negatively about the shows I love, it's important to hear not just for the work you love but for your work, too. Your videos and others, Like Mangakamen, help me to see problems in my own work and see how I can improve them, so thank you for that. But, damn, upsetting that Krem did this. I hope you have a good day, and I can't wait to see how you tear into a show I love again XD Jkjk. Have a good day- BYE!
1:28 they're literally mad cuz a minor's more mature than them lol
I saw the post too and I was like "the fuck??"
2:25 I am so sorry for you, not only you are forced to be besties with Stolas but also have the same birthday with Ikuto Tsukiyomi. 😔
Why is an NSFW account even arguing with a minor in the first place💀
Twitter creatures have a habit of targeting minors.
I can't with Twitter 😭
Ah, the show fandom's echo-chamber of positive feedback has had a breach again has it? God I *love* this fandom...
He...he can get hurt?
ahh omg the speed paint?!?!♡♡ dude that's so cool I'd love you doing more commentary with speedpaints.! I'm not surprised people got upset abt the video, the helluaverse fandom is a shit show of toxicity
They obviously didn't watch the video😭
I'll never understand what do adults on Twitter have against minors, specially against the ones who do nothing, it's like the edgy teen who says "UgH, kIdS", and treat them like they have no right to have opinions,
I was expecting this video!!!! Yeah, I can agree with young people cause sometimes they say some smart things. Plus, these "adults" saying "You're a kid, you have no say" is taking freedom of speech away from youth. 😅
Twitter twatter same thing.
Ig it’s a good thing I dropped out of the vivzipop fandom
a klance shipper called me homophobic because I didn't ship it, I know how you feel.😂
What's with vivziepip fans who are adult harassing minors.
You're now an adult, so this time your opinion on this should matter to them :D
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Damn we share the exact same birthday
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