The Original Terminator T-800 Metal Endoskeleton Arm Prop!
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Adam has found another original movie prop he wants to replicate: the T-800 endoskeleton arm as seen in James Cameron's The Terminator, which is part of Prop Store's upcoming Entertainment Memorabilia Live Auction collection. Adam inspects this metal prop to see how the joints articulate and the cast metal parts that he immediately starts planning to machine back at his workshop!
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I love how after all these years Adam is still so into his own industry that he loves the work of others that he's totally capable of working alongside. I lost that spark years ago in my own career, but it's so refreshing to see people who haven't.
Tell me you work in tech without telling me you work in tech.
@@rocketsocks Yup.
He has a curious mind.
@@tbird81 lol. So young and so jaded. It must be tricky for the tiktok generation to understand actual emotion and genuine reactions when they see them.
I work in film, people get jaded there too.
But not everyone. People like adam are a joy to work with.
I love that moment where Adam looks at a prop during an interview and goes completely silent... because he's already figuring out in his head how he's going to replicate it, and his brain can't do that and talk about anything else in an interview at the same time.
Amazing comment!
He could absolutely replicate that over the course of a hour-ish long "one day build" video hint hint, Adam...
I love such auctions, the discriptions never tell if it was one of the 12 made for the movie and if it was one of the 2 actually used in the movie!
I actually had a hands on with the full endo behind them. It amazed me when I worked on it how fragile it really was. It came in on a tour and I was photographing it, the Fat Boy and the Plasma rifle. I was getting ready to do the endo when I realized several pistons were loose and falling off. I had asked permission to fix it for the pictures and was given the green light. They also took a few shots of me on the Fat Boy, wearing Arnold's stolen leather biker jacket from T2. An amazing afternoon, and I am so glad to have the pictures to prove it happened.
Further proof of how incredibly talented James Cameron truly is, also RIP Stan Winston (the G.O.A.T)...!!!!...
If I ever lose an arm, I fully intend to get a replica terminator arm to wear around as my prosthetic.
Same here dude , when I was a kid I had always hoped I would lose an arm so I could have one of these!!!!!!
Or any limbs 😂
As a curator, people like Adam are my dream and my nightmare. They know pieces of your collection much more intimately than you do, so my imposters syndrome kicks really hard. On the other hand... well they are the ones that remind me "oh that's true, my job is awesome !!"
You curators are my heroes. You make the items on display in museums and shows come to life and give them context to allow regular guys like me to appreciate the history of valuable, one of a kind artifacts and treat them with the respect they deserve. Without people like you, stuff like that T-800 arm would be lost or never see the light of day. Thanks for all you do!
@@tylerrobbins9614 Whaaa thank you so much Tyler, you really made my day :)
but even if it something that you don't know. It can add value for your piece that would not knew that was there in the first place, and can help with a future sell. If you don't let em lowball you, it is also better because you would be selling it to somewone who knows the piece value.
@@Yamagatabr yes that's very much the case for art gallerists, art dealers, auctionners!
In my case however I work for a public institution, so the cheaper my pieces are the better it is :)
We tend to deliberately be very cautious with art sellers, as they do use us to drive prices up (eg such artist was displayed in that public exhibition so let's bump up the price; this curator gave us a possible link between this piece and a bankable name, so let's use that also)
They can be amazing, honest, brilliant people, but our interests are pretty much opposite
These two gentlemen chatting about props from movies I love has become my new addiction. Moar please!
agreed! it should be a regular segment. Love seeing original props from all these movies we love!
Behind them is a full endoskeleton, a field jacket of Arnold's from T1, and the Mylar outfit worn by Pasha Afshar, the stuntman who doubled for Robert Patrick during one of the fight scenes in the steel mill as the fully liquid T-1000 (the scene where Arnold flings him against the wall and his face comes out the back of his head).
I have been building an all metal arm (T2 Version), so cool to see this one, I will make a T1 version now also. Adam if you need any help on reference or found parts let me know! I can even cast metal parts for you.
Your work is amazing! I'm stunned why you don't have massive following. People should check your work.
@@No_Plastic thanks dude, I appreciate it. I think Endo parts are a very niche subject, but hopefully people that like that kind of stuff can find my work.
Great name, I hate plastic so make everything out of metal when possible, infinitely recyclable
Dude you have some awesome shit on your channel, holy cow that was crazy cool, keep it up!
@@clarkcrossley7579 Thanks dude, hopefully have some more cool metal Terminator props coming soon. Have a few in the pipeline.
Just waiting for the day when bronze/metal castings become a bigger trend on youtube. I feel like its gotta happen some day. A lot of other niches that get huge attention even if its not super relatable
I have the same emotions that Adam is having! That is so cool!
what i would do to be able to have the opportunity to be WITH Adam for a time like this. I'd DIE to experience something like this, especially with one of my idols.
The ball joints are impact tools the small ones are swivel impact sockets and the big main one is an impact universal joint. (I use similar sockets to these, everyday)
I hope this becomes a series type thing. Work well together and the appreciation is a delight.
Always has been.
It is you can find more videos on Tested RUclips page
Oh hey, Just took a gander. There's a bunch on the Tested channel as well.
I cannot wait for that build!
A compellation of all these Propstore videos would be great
WOW!! This helps you appreciate how much work went into this movie.. I was watching some of it last night and I was like.. this movie has lasted the test of time and not is now a part of cinematic history!!
The relentless pursuit by a virtually indestructible T-1 was much more horrifying than anything in subsequent movies.
I dunno, the nuclear dream from T2 is pretty dread-inducing
sorry to be a prick, but I think you mean a CSM-101 T-800, a "T-1" is the small tank-like HK terminator from Terminator 3.
Wouldn't be surprised if Adam makes a WHOLE endoskeleton from scratch 😋
T2 Judgement Day is quite possibly my single favorite action Movies of all time. To see these props, pure elation!! And to see that the articulation STILL WORKS!!!
Holy Grail indeed….
It's always interesting to me how imperfect props are but yet you never notice that in the movie. good stuff!
It depends on whether closeup shots are used
The imperfections make it look more real.
In this case I'd assume this was not the 'hero' arm used for the close up final shots. The hero arm used in the last scene is clearly the nicest one with no real obvious casting defects, and done in a high polish.
This particular prop looks like it was mostly painted silver.
Its almost refreshing to see how raw and "ugly" it is up close. Don't get me wrong, it's a beautiful piece, but I feel like the natural instinct if you were trying to create a replica would be to grind down those rough moldings and polish everything up all smooth and pretty. That would STILL look amazing, I'm sure, but that unfinished look adds a TON of organic character (and probably caught the light really nice on film ; ) ) and I'm wondering if they kept it that way for that very specific reason. Rather than looking ENTIRELY mechanical, the bubbles, scuffs and imperfections from the molding process give the metal itself a lot of visual and textural characteristics you'd expect to find with real, organic bones from where the muscles and flesh would attach. If they were to make the same "prop" today with CGI, it would ALL be polished chrome.
And as simple as it is, the little details are pretty astounding. You can tell that someone legitimately put time and effort into making sure that it didn't just LOOK good, but could function with mechanical logic. The pistons are exactly where the hands tendons would be and it bulks out the palm of the terminators hand in a way that actually makes sense. That's not a NECESSARY detail for a prop that's going to appear on camera for what probably amounted to a few brief seconds, but that difference mattered to the artist tasked with creating it and the piece is/was all the more impressive for it.
Logically, Skynet would not be interested in having perfectly casted parts. The parts would not be polished and imperfection free. The T-800 models were made in large quantities for infantry battle as well as infiltration missions.
I could be mistaken, but I believe Richard Landon made the hands for the first film. You guys should really try to have him on. He's still working in the industry as a mechanical designer, and is one of the nicest guys.
Please make one, with the diagonal moving knuckles under tensioning, great stuff :)
As far as I know, Stan Winston Studios didn’t really get into using practical pneumatics until Jurassic Park, so yeah, I’m guessing all the actuation was done via cables, with the pistons being cosmetic articulation. But still, the workmanship that went into this… just beautiful!
I was wondering if maybe this arm was used for the shots at the end where the endo busted through the factory door, and then later when it was crawling after Sarah, grabbing a metal support during the first lunge, then clawing along through the metal press before finally trying to grasp her throat. Those are the only times I can think of that the hand required articulation… but there’s one problem: this is a left hand/forearm, and I’ve just checked to see and while there’s one shot of the left hand when the endo grabs at the pipe bomb, it’s a non-articulating hand. All the shots of the hand actually articulating are of the right hand, not the left (the left was blown off by the pipe bomb), so was this an alternate, a test piece or what? Interesting…
Image could be mirrored on film on film
@@tylerrobbins9614 Nah, by all accounts Jim Cameron is a very patient and understanding director on set, so I’m sure he wouldn’t have minded waiting while they rigged up another arm… 😉
Adam dude, your channel is the best!!!. You are one lucky dude.
All this stuff belongs in museum!
i have a lot of respect for the guy asking adam savage specific questions...... hes not afraid or arrogant enough to know that he's in the presence of adam savage....... A lot of people wouldnt ask such questions through fear of "not looking like they know their own job"
To be fair, Brandon is an expert in selling, acquiring, and marketing props from movies, as well as the business of movie props. Adam is the expert on making props. So asking questions of another expert in props is part of Brandon's job.
Knowing how the thing was made, and what parts it's made of is really good information to get from someone like Adam. Adam gets to add to the story of this prop from his own experience, which adds to the value of the prop.
It's a pretty great deal for Adam, who gets to examine the hand and take as many high-res pictures he wants, AND the propshop, who gets free promo, as well as gets to pick Adams brain.
It's nice to see these two experts able to complement each other through each of their work.
@@stevesether yeh.... so.... what i said....
@@Rob-fn1kp You could’ve just not replied lmao
it's always nice to see an SKX
After seeing the Terminator in 1984, the very next day, I drove to LA and searched out the Fantasy II studio where they did the special effects. I walked in and asked for a job application and to my delight, the secretary sent me right in to speak to special effects guru, Gene Warren Jr. He and I had a great talk, and Gene asked if I would like to tour some original Terminator sets. Suddenly, I found myself in the bowels of the studio, where I examined the life-sized terminator models, and then entered a set where they created a reduced sized steel factory, with pouring pots, loading docks and tractor trailer trucks used in one of the famous crash scenes. I was blown away! I never did work with Gene, but did spend some time at the MGM Glenco shop...
I can't wait to see the one week build
Keep up the great work team
Remember when Terminator was a great franchise?
No.
Lol. It was never a great franchise. T1 and T2 were great - everything else was just ok (at best).
It still is
Terminator has to be the greatest robot movies
Adam geeks out about this hand like I would geek out at the Bike Chain Arrow Catching hand made on Mythbusters. :)
You know he would have his phone out to take reference photos as soon as filming stopped.
Amazing. I've always loved The Terminator, the Endoskeleton and the Endoskeleton arm from Terminator 1 and 2. I had the chance to buy a replica of the arm from T2 in the 2000s via Sideshow from Stan Winston studios. Its epic, however it is static so I totally understand what Adam means. The version I have was limited to 1000pcs and is covered in chrome. Its still got a bit of weight to it. I believe that one of the differences between the T1 and T2 arm was the finger and knuckle joints, they where smaller in T2 because they wanted it to represent an accurate size that would look like they'd actually fit inside the flesh of a normal sized hand (aka Arnold's).
The total geeking-out (best way possible) of Adam over that prop is just soooo awesome. He is sooo much into his personal hobby as well as work sphere here.
Love it.
*yep...this will be one of those long term exquisite detail prop builds...i'm guessing that the use of titanium will not be out of the question either...first the arm then the entire full metal T-800 build*
Adam.
Did you ever finish the weathering of your very own T800?
What beer did you put in its hand?
Is it still sitting?
Did the red eyes get fitted?
Did you fit the T800 to have an Arduino installed to track people as they move across the room?
Adam just needs to call Stan Winston studios , to find out how it was cast .
I prefer RoboCop.., but even I will admitt to see that the Terminator's arm as a functioning prop is pretty cool
I prefer Forrest Gump.., but even I will admitt that RoboCop was a film.
I’d love a video of Adam documenting a prop for replication
Gizmo is just chillin
I can giggle to myself when Adams 12 year old boy pops out. 😂
... was waiting for Adam to raise its middle finger ...
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NO FATE! ✊🏼
I'm looking forward to videos of you building your own!! T2 is my ALL TIME FAVORITE movie!
I hope we get to see that build soon! In fact, Adam, why don't YOU buy this?
Im convinced Adam is the only person who can make a receding hairline work
The main wrist ball and socket looks like a swivel adapter for a 1/2" or larger impact driver.
Another distinct difference between that endo arm and the T-2 endo arms is the fingers of that one are like flat popsticks. The fingers of the T-2 hands are round. Looking at their shape, it seems certain that each finger piece in the T-2 endo hands were made by cutting down solid metal with the use of a milling machine. A lathe may have been using to cut the basic shape, but a milling machine was certainly used to cut the slots down the centre of each finger piece.
I have literally hundreds of reference photos of screen-used endo arms, that I've gathered over the years. I also attempted to build a Thailand knock-off resin model kit of the T-2 arm that's seen in Cyberdyne. Just like all the licensed life-size endo arms and endoskeletons, this knock-off kit is also filled with glaring errors that require a lot of reworking and scratch building to replace erroneous parts.
Love it!! … mine sadly doesn’t move
Those ball joints look like swivel sockets used by mechanics.
I may have to make one of these. Too cool.
@1984 is now. I think a lot of screen shots is probably a good place to start. Then you'll need an entire machine shop after that. Don't forget tha cad software and a lot of coffee.
Gizmo just chilling out in the back there
I think bike chain, or small scale rc car rod ends would be decent for joints. Yes? Not super recognizable for what they are. Better ideas for buyable parts?
is Adam wearing one of his temporary tattoos on his right arm? You can never have too many rulers!
Actually it is a T-one hand but it is the hero from T2 from the Cyberdyne lab Vault.
Geeking out
Adam isn't going to just make a T-800 arm, he has a T-800 standing behind them this whole video, he is going to go full T-800!
I love it!!!! Adam you are my favourite tv personality! I’d die to see the myth busters set 10000X more then terminator 😂 KEEP IT UP!
I like that Brandon points out that there are differences between the T1 Endo and those from the later films.
Ive always noticed that the Endo from the first film seems a bit unique in its texture, detailing, and proportions which sets it apart from the more "refined" versions seen in the sequels, and yet I've never EVER seen any replica or video game seem to reference that original look in any way, almost always going for the T2 look or some other "idealized" design that doesnt resemble any of the films.
Thats always bothered me on so many levels.... i wish someone would try to replicate the original Endo, as I would buy it in a heartbeat
Your videos never ceases to amaze me! I hope I finish my amor project and met you one day! Happy cosplaying my friend! 👍
It doesn’t get better than Adam geeking out on a prop. Thank you for sharing !
You could think about how you should go about making on of those.
The better question is perhaps how Skynet would manufacture it
I love how this guy is open to, and does, learn from adam as much as adam does so with access to the props, true, honest passion from both sides!
The whole interview is a great study about someone like Adam, who is a specialist (prop production mechanics), and the other guy...who is a jack of all trades within a specialty (prop curation).
Adam mentions the folding knuckles in T2 and the other guy says he never noticed and he'll go check that out. We all know he's too busy dealing with clients, insurers, and procurements to go watch T2 for the 30th time. But he knows how to act interested enough to make the gear nerd happy in a conversation and that is an impressive part of his skill set.
I really do mean this in a positive way.
@@jimjam51075 well said brother
Bet the CEO of the props company gets nervous when Adam manhandles the expensive props lol!!!
What surprises me is that this guy from Propstore never seems to really know much about these items. You think someone who is surrounded by these kinds of props for a living would have intimate knowledge of how they’re constructed, the materials they use, etc.
I watched a documentary on the 1st Terminator film recently. Stan Winston was just beaming over the creation of the T-800 endoskeleton. Normally he's a very nice chill guy but in that particular interview he was uncharacteristically selfish about making sure all the credit was his on that project, to the extent that he joked that he was fortunate to have such a talented group of people to work with even though he would make sure that none of their names end up in the credits.
yes make one
Very cool how the propstore guy immediately defers to Adam when he isn't sure about stuff. He obviously knows him :)
Iconic
I love how Brandon gets into speculating how the parts were manufactured even though he's an expert on the arms film history. You're a legend Adam.
Amazing Fantasy and Incredible Hulk comics in the background right at the end of the video. They contain the first appearances of spider-man and wolverine respectively. For the nerds out there they are slabbed, and the hulk 181 looks to be a 9.4.
Oh please ! make one, Adam.
Not sure if he should really do that, because Adam's replica would work even better than the original, making it more deadly if used by the machines 😎😆
@@SystemX1983 Hadn't thought about it that way :{
Wow man. It's so nice to know this thing is still around. I saw this movie when I was way too young and I love it more than I can even put into words.
That wrist gimbal joint looks like a universal socket or universal adaptor for a ratchet.
"We got Skynet by the balls now, don't we"
I don't remember if it was the left or right hand in the in the film, but is it possible this was the final "hero prop" that was reaching out of the press when Sarah killed the Terminator in the first movie? Because that seems like the most likely place to have needed a full, 1:1 scale practical version of this, right?
No. Two things.
This is a left hand. The final one reaching is a right hand.
This is made of really rough castings, so it couldn't have been see in close-up. All the parts in that final scene are smooth and shiny. That final prop doesn't appear to articulate at all, so it might just be a static prop.
@@blindleader42 Agreed, but it feels like it might've been used for scenes where the hand is grabbing at the door, with the rest of the Terminator off-screen. I don't think it would've been attached to the full size puppet Terminator.
Mr. Savage, were you able to make any observations regarding the articulation of the thumb? If so would you kindly share them.
Find someone who looks at you the way Adam looks at this prop
yeah the T2 hand has sideways movement at the knuckles like a human hand does. The dangers of AI aside, a proper robotic arm that actually works and isn't just some chrome visual effect would be quite beautiful. There is a lot of degrees of freedom in an arm plus any actual considerations for interfacing with a skin. A great design is one that works with a caveat when invoking future tech actuators. The terminator design is actually quite retro in a sense. Those bulky straight pistons are quite suboptimal designs.
And as a side note, we are actually fairly close to an AI level where a T800 could be made today which is pretty wild. Star wars droids too.
I think Adam means the scene where Arnold cuts the skin off his arm! And flexes the fingers! THAT was an awesome scene!
"Lost wax brass cast" _is_ hard to say.
If you take the 4K version of Terminator 1, and you pause on the scenes where the hand is visible, especially the last crawling scene, youll see that the hand in the movie differs from this hand in a bunch of ways. So im not sure where this hand is from really, cause its not "screen accurate". One big telll is that in the movie the hand is all polished, youll see the fingers have these flat and polished surface, while as on this one its FULL of "bubbles" grooves, holes in the metal.
Oh my god are telling me that adam owns the ORIGNAL Terminator prop arm?
I'm sure if it was for sale he could buy it if he wanted
One of them. There have to be at least three.
I love seeing parts I recognize from RC airplanes within this prop!
Wao this is amazing
There's a channel on RUclips where a guy built a whole Terminator out of metal. The guy went way beyond anything else that's ever been done. It was a passion project and he wanted it to be the best. In my opinion he achieved his goal. What he made is impressive. Ain't no air bubbles in his. It looks like it could be real.
I have always like the original endoarm. I was disappointed when the T2 arm was different with square knuckles. It looked like they "went cheep" with assembly.
At one time I had some very nice close-up photos of that arm but I don't remember it being so bad looking with all those "bubbles" all over the fingers.
I have always been disappointed in these prop arms that were solid.. They went all the way to make each part and then assemble them BUT then in the chroming process they make it all solid. For the $$ you pay you should be able to pose it.
I have found a seller that sells both types including WHOLE arms (L/R) in plastic, and they are NOT 3d printed.
Regarding the "found parts" ,the wrist ball joints you see at the 5:50 mark look suspiciously like the swivels available in some 1/4 and 3/8 drive socket tool sets.
Edit, yep, image search "snap-on 3/8 friction ball swivel and scroll down a bit to find the one with the slot in it. Bam!
was the whole thing poorly cast and is full of air bubbles or simple machined and then pitted like adam plans to do?
I would like to see the Gizmo in the back. can you do a video on that too?
The T1 Endoskelleton Looks way more intimidating than The T2 model. So Nice To See These original prop From the First T1 . Thanks Adam 👍🙏
I can’t stop thinking how the wrist joint looks a lot like a 1in drive swivel adaptor. It’s really cool.
The pistons on Terminator endoskeletons on the movies have always been props, not active pistons. Real hydraulic or pneumatic cylinders have hoses connected to the top and bottom of them carrying the hydraulic fluid or compressed air. The ones on endoskeletons in the movies have never had that, which is a dead giveaway they are props used because they look the part, and nothing else.
That's totally too cool to watch you GEEK OUT over this hand.
It's funny how you found that geeking out to be entertaining and cool, whereas I found it to be over the top, corny, and insufferable.
Was T1 the only movie where the endoskeleton actually has human teeth instead of those metal chrome teeth?