I bought my wife a Red metallic CRV hybrid Sport (not touring) two weeks ago and the salesman said it had XM radio which it doesn't ! After the sale he said you plug it into your phone and get XM radio with the android auto and Nav. The charging ports are very slow chargers. He said if you want to spend $6K more you can get XM and the other stuff. We didn't want leather living in South FL sun eats the leather. What we miss is the back door auto opener, Nav built in , XM radio, 90% of our driving is city. If your mostly highway driving in rural area I'd go for the non hybrid. Its decent size inside and comfy cloth is nice. I hate being squashed and Im 290 lbs but I feel ok on those seats and interior. Watch out for all the added fees ridiculous! Hybrids seem to be harder to get from what I read we paid sticker plus all the other crap they add on Tax, tag, title, dealer fee no choice and didn't pay the extra $6K dealer market adjustment sticker. From what I see driving at night comparing to my other cars and truck you don't really miss the fog lights the stock LED headlights light up the sides of the road very well super bright. The auto hi beams work well also. Do your homework read the options, investigate ask questions even though they lie to make a sale. I haven't checked the miles per gal yet. Not too worried about no spare tire thinking back all the years I had flats they were a nail/screw and a very slow leak that you could put in air and keep going unless a blowout or sidewall.
I’m expecting delivery of mine in a few weeks. How are the headlights? I’ve seen night drive videos for the Civic and HR-V and they looked fine. I’m a little concerned that the low black front brow above them will reduce the sight distance. I’m certainly not looking to blind oncoming traffic which I see all too often, I’m just hoping for the same distance as the other models.
Ordered one for my wife in white and I’m getting urban grey. Sport Touring on both. We have loved our 17 CRV so much it just seemed right to stay with it. I do have to give up my 2.0t accord though.
Sell it private, they didn’t make them for every long as I recall so they would be a bit of a collectors item I would think. Easy to sell for lots of coin.
We just bought one, Radiant Red Sport Touring. Very comfortable, plenty of features and good mpg around 33 so far. PS We couldn't find a Rav4 in my area and they wanted a premium for it when one came in, it was sold. We did had choices with the CRV, now.
Good review! Those interested in the RAV4 Hybrid, be aware of the cable corrosion problems that owners are dealing with. Very expensive repair and toyota has not properly addressed the issue at this point.
I’m very much looking forward to your night drive. I actually just bought one of these (a few more weeks before it comes in) and I’m a little anxious about the performance of the headlamps. I just saw someone else’s night drive here on RUclips and they looked terrible. I’m optimistic it was just his camera settings but damn.
Are you picking CR-V Sport Hybrid over the Rav4 SE Hybrid? What about about the Sport Touring vs the XSE? Also - I said the Sport has matte wheels when they're glossy as well and 18" Also2 - real exhaust is only on right side. Left side is a decoy...a darn good looking decoy.
Agree to disagree! Cx-50 is better than the CRV turbos but not the crv hybrids. CRV is so much more efficient and roomy. CRV also has a far superior ride quality over the torsion beam cx50.
@@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961 Only the Hybrid Touring is available in Canada and it's over $50,000 Canadian!!! 2023 RAV4 Hybrid has wireless Carplay and Android auto as well.
I got to test drive one of these a month ago. I drive a civic and this felt like it drives similar to my car, just higher up. I have been hearing from other reviewers that the mpg averages are 3-6 less than what Honda is saying, which surprises me. I also talked to one of the managers at my local dealer and they were saying they think the CR-V lack of tech is due to the availability of chips and trying to get these out in a reasonable time (which I feel like was a miss considering older ones have better tech). Overall, I like this car but feel like those price hikes from prior year just weren’t justified enough for what you get, only if you got the EX gas trim since it’s more bang for your buck.
I think there lot bias depending what drive ! Had 2 CRV, drove rav4 vacation! Very similar. I’d take either, you need look at it as business proposition, unless the deals are same, then favorite cone into play!!!😬
Great job with this video Kirk! I really enjoyed and appreciate that you were able to compare and contrast the different trim levels. Yet, you still did an excellent job at focusing on what the top spec version offers and your opinion on its place in this crowded SUV market.
Beautiful inside and out, but totally overpriced like many new Honda's, at least in Canada anyway. You can't even buy a Civic for under $28,000 anymore. Starting price of base spec is $28,772.50. Just 3 years ago base was $19,000. Just like the Civic, the CRV suffers the same fate. Yes, there is more tech, etc, but $10,000 more in just 3 years for the same trims? No thanks.
That’s MSRP going up… dealers want $5-10k above that… everyone is high off of that cheap money… party is over and the dealers are going to have a huge rude awakening
Yeah it is crazy my 2019 civic was 26k cad all in with extended warranty. To get the same in the 2023 it would be $33,800 all in but my interest rate was 0.99% today it would be 5.92%. Everyone has increased prices but Honda went insane.
Mr Bobby Brown back in 2020, I wanted to purchase a 2020 civic LX here in Canada and at the time the interest was around 1.99% for 5 and half years or 66 months and once they gave me the numbers and when I calculated it was going to be around $33k Canadian before tax for LX of all trims, so I went to its archrival and rest was history, walked out of the door for $22.7 for 60 months with 1.09% interest instead. The moral of the story is honda is way too expensive for what they offer and also their inventory was quite small.
Bobby. In Canada Honda’s unfortunately are overpriced . The better value is Acura which is the Honda luxury brand. The RDX is the better buy. The Audi q3 is a better buy also.
I got a chance to view the CR-V’s and the Pilot’s was very impressed. The CR-V’s did not have the options that would meet my requirements. I loved the Pilot’s also but just a little to high for my wife running boards were not an option. I hope everyone enjoys both the models.
Since you driven both RX 350h and this hybrid. Which one do you think is more of a good driving experience for you. I understand RX is a little more premium version, but wanted to know your opinion.
We (wife and I) drove the touring version...it's everything Kirk says it is...after consulting with our Honda salesman, we ordered the Sport Hybrid due to the cloth seats and 18" wheels which we preferred. We felt the sport model's front end and 18" wheels actually look cleaner than the touring and would hold it's value better. Being I Wisconsin we went with the AWD...NOTE: there are Touring models currently available but the sport hybrid has a 4 month order backlog here in Wisconsin.
I would go for that CR-V Sport Touring Hybrid because the quality and driving experience matter to me more than the extra things the RAV4 gives you 🌚❤️
Love all your reviews and check for them daily. I'm looking to get either an HRV LX or lower end Crosstrek. I don't need all the bells and whistles, just want a reliable last car as I'm a young at heart 70 yr. old. Any ideas? thanks, Bill (replacing a 2013 turbo Juke I love)
I was close to pulling the trigger on the RAV4 hybrid but i found out about the cable corrosion issue. I ended up placing an order for a CR-V sport touring hybrid in mid October, i should finally be getting it sometime this month.
Very true about the MPG. However, the interior of the RAV looks Fischer-Price compared to the Honda and Rav4 current run is probably over at the end of this year, with a redesign coming. This Honda IS the redesign and it will look new and fresh for probably the next 4-5 years without a redesign.
Actually, the 40k does match what you get in the rav4… the xse is the trim level that is compared to this trim and you get cloth/leather combo, heated seats, and a normal moon roof. No premium audio. However, Toyota does have better gas mileage and a spare but the quality of the interior and the drive experience in the crv blows the rav4 out of the water.
Kirk, I am glad you shot this video near a harbor, oversized wheels are like a boat anchor on a hybrid. Honda gets the size spot-on with the CR-V but the RAV4 is a superior Hybrid by any measure. In about a year, will we start getting hints as to whether Toyota will match interior accommodation with its chief competitors. BTW I would like to hear an explanation as to why they could not fit a spare tire in a ground up redesign of the CR-V hybrid. 🤔
I was looking between vehicles like the Rav 4 hybrid, CRV hybrid, Carolla Cross Hybrid, Forester. Maybe a Outlander PHEV, but that is significantly more, but at least in stock. Not sure inventory on these CRV's. But I wanted something that could tow a minimum of 1500lbs. Towing a motorcycle trailer. I'd go for a sport because all things you mentioned like heated options, fancy stereo, don't mean much to me. Its 120 degrees here in the summer, and leather/fake leather is awful in that heat. I like to go camping or hiking which is usually off the beaten path and on offroads/softroads. Sometimes requires stream crossing about 1 foot deep. Not sure this CRV hybrid would do. A friend of mine has their RAV 4 that hasn't ever had any issues and another with a Forester which pretty much lives in that element. My old RD1 CRV can transverse it all but its suspension needs to be done but before I do I thought I look around for something new.
The fact that this is a question being asked between a completely new redesigned CRV and an old generation RAV4 speaks volumes. There are some things to like with the CRV, but there are so many missing features at this price point it is mind boggling. Not to mention some serious design oversights with a poor AWD system, battery placement not allowing for a spare tire, etc. Its like Honda just thought as long as we build them, people will buy.
I respect Honda for the quality and reliability, but little things really bug me about a 2023 vehicle. No door pocket on the drivers side seat? Really? no full 12.3 inch digital display? Come on Honda, No Pano roof? No sun shades? I also feel like the top spec should include all these things, but they are for practicality not luxury , so guess that comes with the territory!
Great review! Good info and well presented. Considering the CR-V Sport vs a RAV4 XLE Hybrid. I thought the Honda drove better with a more upscale interior. Thought the RAV4 had a better exterior with better real world MPG from what reports say. Do wish the CR-V Hybrid had a spare tire.
@@SIIKAP1 so you want to pay nearly the same money and get less features? In Canada the crv is at least $1000 more expensive than the rav4 and all the competition will you still buy it
@@Reu_ag I don’t need 360 cam, pano roof, digital rearview mirror, etc. Just more expensive things to break. I’d rather have more fun driving dynamics. Not everyone is a features junkie. And the CRV sport is priced cheaper than the equivalent trim RAV4 in USA. Not that I want a boring CUV anyway
It’s honda tho. They’ve always manufactured like this however I must say this is a great looking auto and the interior improvements and sophistication are extremely well done. They also do have an excellent track record for reliability and resale. I like features like the next person but I don’t want to pay for features that I don’t value. If you judge overall value based solely upon the amount of features that is a narrow view, in my humble opinion.
Very nice review, I was leaning towards the EX-L since it had many of the features I needed but you say to go for the Hybrid, the base sport loses alot so Sport Touring it is. I noticed that the EX-L has an extra button (Idle-Stop button) next to the hill descent control button. Why does the Sport Touring not have it?....Can it not be turn off I guess?
Idle start stop sucks and only there to help satisfy some mpg estimates. Hybrid doesn’t need that likely doesn’t even help as it can just go into EV mode effectively shutting off any combustion.
I’d rather pay $1,148 more for a RAV4 Limited Hybrid and get A/C seats since I live in Honolulu and I optioned the digital review mirror and 360° camera on the RAV4.
Reason why I dont consider Honda's hybrids is because they are losing to toyota on mpg (especially real world mpg). Sure, it's a hybrid, but it seems its efficiency and technology that Honda uses doesnt compare to toyota's.
True but it’s not only about efficiency, drive quality and how good is it in the snow are also important. Also availability is a huge problem considering wait times for the Toyota.
I had a new 2018 Rav-4 SE. It was a lumber wagon that would get stuck in small amounts of snow. It was the worst AWD system I ever owned. What was worse, is that no reviewer mentioned that problem. I now have the 2023 Honda Hybrid Sport. I feel it is much better than the Rav-4. Rav-4 dealers nickel and dime a potential customers to death, with extras with extra charges. Most Honda models come well equipment with few if any options. Toyota seems like a bunch of hype in my opinion.
Test drove this and the Rav4 hybrid back to back. I RAN back to the Honda dealership to put down a deposit. The Rav4 sounds so coarse when driving over 30mph and highway noise was so bad me and the salesman were raising our voices to keep talking, it lets in so much road and wind noise. Plus on the Brand new RAV4 there were squeaks coming from the trunk. The CRV had no such issues in this 25 degree weather. Rav4 was a TAD zippier feeling but not enough to win me over. Toyota is getting away with $3.5k over MSRP. The CRV is $1k (non-negotiable but it comes with all-weather mats, splash guards, and 3 years of oil changes.) over at my stealership so the prices for similar specked amenities come to be within 500$ of each other after "MarKet AdJuStmEnt". The CRV has a much smoother, and tranquil ride above 30 mph. 100% Prefer the refined, smooth and quiet ride of the CRV, even if it is a WHOLE .3 seconds slower. The ONLY thing I would change about the CRV is giving it a spare tire. It seems like a terrible decision to have not made room for even a donut spare. Fix a flat will work in some conditions, but not all. I've never needed to throw on a spare in my 13 years of driving, but it is always when you don't have it is when you need it. I will abuse the complementary roadside assistance due to their horrible engineering decision. That is my biggest apprehension, but I will take that over an unapologetically noisy and cheap interior.
I just iordered one in Canada for almost an even trade to my other car delivery late April or Early May 48k in Canada, Rav 4 hybrid late mode is a two year waiting period
Kirk, what is your opinion for the “best value for the price” and great gas millage small SUV. I’m looking a family friendly vehicle. I love the new Prius but feels too small to grow my family into. Thanks
I hope they bring these to the Uk in the next year, as we often have to wait ages after the US. I think they’ll be hybrids only here. Just love the feel and build of Honda CRVs. We have an old RAV4 and the interior is awful, but it is very reliable.
I always though the hook you pointed out at 3:02 is an eye hook for winching the vehicle. For example if stuck or loading on a tow truck. Can you say what else would be pulled with it? Perhaps it's for a chain if one were to use some of that 1000lb towing capacity.
I'm thinking it could be used to help pull ATV or small vehicle out of rough spot. Also if CR-V is in a bad spot you can hook it to helper vehicle. Not for towing perse but for assistance
The problem with the CRV hybrid is there’s not enough trim levels with this power train. Toyota offers hybrids in every trim level for most of their models.
This is NOT dual exhaust. There's no Left tailpipe, it's fake. You would have seen that Kirk had you been more observant. Honda failed to hide it's only single exhaust under the body. A lost opportunity that actually costed Honda money.
Doesn't matter which looks nicer, will never go on a family road trip in the car with no spare tire, so Rav4 for me if I had to choose btwn two. Yes, flat tire out in nowhere is no fun. Better AWD won't help either.
Ordered my Sport touring, getting it this or next week with no mark up. Reason I chose the top trim is that it has everything I need , better AWD than RAV4 with 50/50 F and R power and not planning to upgrade any soon.
Hands down, the CRV is quieter, roomier, and a much better ride, the last one being my opinion, the other two mentions, are facts. I've had my 2023 CRV Hybrid for a month and love it.
13:16 But the Toyota in that model gives more features and XM radio. Honda removed that for top trims. I just want the added start with phone. Honda can’t seem to offer that.
Where are the driving lights for late night country driving ?Do all lights come on ( head ,tail and brakes lights for winter day time snowing weather .a white out is bad enough but to be rear ended is awful with no tail lights see alot of cars this poor light set up .
Completely flummoxed by the decision of omitting the back pocket on the back of the other front seat. I am not sure how much money they save, but kind of find it offensive that the need to save money goes to that level. One wonders what else they are skimping on that we cannot see.
Kirk, where did you get the info for what you wrote at the top of the video at 14:30. I have scoured Honda's website, forums, and product information sheets and cannot find anything to back up what you have on here.
Probably my age speaking but I don’t care for all the black accenting especially when that’s the only choice on the interior. Not necessarily a deal breaker but I wish there was a spare tire; the only time I’ve ever had a flat tire is when I’ve hit something on the road and ruined the tire. A can of air is kinda useless when that happens.
Interested in the feature set specs for the lower trims. Based on light research, it looks like at least the EX gas model has a near poverty spec infotainment system with no SiriusXM. Not sure if the EX-L gas model has more features or just a bigger screen and wireless CarPlay. Sport Hybrid looks enticing but I’d imagine it has similar infotainment to the base EX model.
I bought the EX AWD and after 2,500 miles it says my mpg is 30.9. To get CarPlay or Android Auto you plug your phone into the USB. I live in a rural area so I don't use navigation much so I don't mind that. Bluetooth connects automatically which is what I use most. If I want navigation and Android Auto it uses up the one USB port and I like to fill a thumb drive up with music but as I said I live in a rural area and don't use maps much. The infotainment system is lower end. I used the wireless Android Auto on my previous vehicle and it was convenient but it also constantly used up data on my phone. One of the main reasons I didn't get the hybrid is the lack of a spare tire but also it looks like the gains in mpg are mostly for city driving.
I bought my wife a Red metallic CRV hybrid Sport (not touring) two weeks ago and the salesman said it had XM radio which it doesn't ! After the sale he said you plug it into your phone and get XM radio with the android auto and Nav. The charging ports are very slow chargers. He said if you want to spend $6K more you can get XM and the other stuff. We didn't want leather living in South FL sun eats the leather. What we miss is the back door auto opener, Nav built in , XM radio, 90% of our driving is city. If your mostly highway driving in rural area I'd go for the non hybrid. Its decent size inside and comfy cloth is nice. I hate being squashed and Im 290 lbs but I feel ok on those seats and interior. Watch out for all the added fees ridiculous! Hybrids seem to be harder to get from what I read we paid sticker plus all the other crap they add on Tax, tag, title, dealer fee no choice and didn't pay the extra $6K dealer market adjustment sticker. From what I see driving at night comparing to my other cars and truck you don't really miss the fog lights the stock LED headlights light up the sides of the road very well super bright. The auto hi beams work well also. Do your homework read the options, investigate ask questions even though they lie to make a sale. I haven't checked the miles per gal yet. Not too worried about no spare tire thinking back all the years I had flats they were a nail/screw and a very slow leak that you could put in air and keep going unless a blowout or sidewall.
I just don’t understand the obsession with AWD. Y’all know you have to replace ALL your tires when you get a flat; right? Increased maintenance, lower fuel economy? It’s a no from me
Ironic since Honda was first with hybrids in the usa at least. But i am inclined to agree as Honda was more and lightweight special purpose coupe manual. Toyota was going for a mass market family car.
I've got a hot take on Honda and i think this CRV review has me convinced....Acura is hurting Honda in the USA. Honda is suppressing the level of features included in the US CRV to give lame ass Acura some breathing room. I've noticed that the CRV available in Asia has a pano roof and some other options that we dont get in the US. VERY LAME. Let Acura die. Its a mess and Honda owners are suffering because of it.
Hi! Thanks for the video. Nice looking SUVs, but the majority of states have snow. All those Honda grooves and cut ins, particularly in the back, would be a pain to clean after heavy snow. I don't have a garage. Would have liked to see more equal driving of each model for a fair comparison.
The CRV sport touring is a better vehicle than the RAV4 xse hybrid. The seats are leather vs cloth inserts better stereo (Bose). The looks are better, feels more premium, and drives better. Theirs is more to the vehicle than absence of a panoramic sunroof, 360 camera and ventilated seats.
3:00 that’s not dual exhaust, it’s only on the right side, the left one is fake, shame on you Honda for putting a fake exhaust on the left side, also, dual fake exhaust on the new Pilot.
While the interior might be a slight improvement in some regards (this instrument panel and lack of seat release latches are def a step back) the exterior is not as attractive as the previous gen. The lack of fog lights and less LEDs is kinda sad to see it get cheapened. I like my 2018 CRV and this "upgrade" is not something I get excited about.
42k for a CRV for my ideal crv i would keep for 15 years+. That is a shit ton of money. Thats about 300 a month for 15 years essentially by the time you include tax and interest. God i hope the civic hybrid hatch in sport touring comes here. I would much rather save 6k and get a civic hatch if it was here
I got a question for you, why would you want a civic hybrid on a touring model where other competitors offer their hybrids on middle trims for better pricing and more. If honda does put the civic hybrid on touring model they will lose our to competition easily.
@@alvinsimba734 the touring has a good sound system. Plus the civic has one of the best cargo areas, has the best looks of a hybrid imo. What exaple do do have that a mid trim has more for better pricing thst is also from a reliable brand. Meaning not hyundai/kia
@@alvinsimba734 so i would only compare the civic with the toyota prius that just came out everything else is either a sedan or suv that is a hubrid so completely different category. The civic has a better sound system, more upscale interior, larger cargo space, i dont need awd so thats just added cost on the prius for no benefit to me. Civic looks way better in my opinion. The civic has alway been one of the most popular cars in the world so parts are very regularly available. The prius depending on weather you get an xle awd(same mpg as civic hybrid) or the limited(2 more mpg) that still only is only $800 more in gas over 200k miles in the civic. Does that justify the 1500 extra cost of the prius limited over a civic sport touring. Nope. Why would you suggest the toyota over the civic? Just curious cause honda and toyota are not as reliable as they use to be so that is kind of a null argument. Even Mazda is better in that category these days
@@Hallowsaw my friend I think you got lost. Prius and civic are in different class. Civic vs Corolla is the right comparison. Civic is popular in North America thats about it. In South Africa they are almost non existent, I was there in June 2022 and corollas are all over the world. The civic doesn't have a hybrid at this moment in time, the corolla does have 4 different trims for hybrid especially the sedan variant so right there the civic is already behind. Toyota has so many options for everyone when it comes to trims. Hondas are way too expensive for what they are and even though I don't rate the Korean brands that much, they are catching up to honda when it comes to value and features which an average driver sadly cares along with pricing. Also the corolla hybrids are not even top trim either and even if the civic brings their hybrid out I can bet with my top dollar it's already on touring trim which will be a failure due to cost. Honda never learns and the CRV us already facing the fate. You mentioned prius and does honda have priua variant and that answer is no so honda has so much to learn at this point. So Shawn as much as you like Honda, yes they are beautiful and all that, plus their outrageous pricing and they are already going downhill as we speak and pricing will always being Achilles heel for them.
@@KirkKreifels haha I'm driving one now i hope they make enough so no markups. Looks like they prime is going to be the hard to get one if they get the prorated tax credit as rumored
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As with all the new gen Hondas, loving the exterior and interior styling. Excited to see these hit the road!
I’m glad they look simple and clean again, I like Hondas but the last gen styling is not gonna age well in my view
Wouldn’t it be nicer if they painted the brake calipers?
I bought my wife a Red metallic CRV hybrid Sport (not touring) two weeks ago and the salesman said it had XM radio which it doesn't ! After the sale he said you plug it into your phone and get XM radio with the android auto and Nav. The charging ports are very slow chargers. He said if you want to spend $6K more you can get XM and the other stuff. We didn't want leather living in South FL sun eats the leather. What we miss is the back door auto opener, Nav built in , XM radio, 90% of our driving is city. If your mostly highway driving in rural area I'd go for the non hybrid. Its decent size inside and comfy cloth is nice. I hate being squashed and Im 290 lbs but I feel ok on those seats and interior. Watch out for all the added fees ridiculous! Hybrids seem to be harder to get from what I read we paid sticker plus all the other crap they add on Tax, tag, title, dealer fee no choice and didn't pay the extra $6K dealer market adjustment sticker. From what I see driving at night comparing to my other cars and truck you don't really miss the fog lights the stock LED headlights light up the sides of the road very well super bright. The auto hi beams work well also. Do your homework read the options, investigate ask questions even though they lie to make a sale. I haven't checked the miles per gal yet. Not too worried about no spare tire thinking back all the years I had flats they were a nail/screw and a very slow leak that you could put in air and keep going unless a blowout or sidewall.
I like this new CR-V. My issues are the lower “real world” fuel economy with AWD and the lack of features on the Sport Touring
I'll update my total fuel economy and pin it when I'm finished with my loan
Would have upgraded my 2016 crv but missing so many things other brands have for similar prices. No longer a steal/ value brand…
@@Jhenr834 what is missing? Trying to decide if I should purchase this car
@@bitterscotchLove , it doesn't offer ventilated seats, a heads up display, a panoramic sunroof or heated rear seats.
@Singer theres a roof rack, i wouldnt want to haul boxes on top of a panoramic sunroof
I purchased Honda CR-V HYBRID SPORT TOURING on December 16. Love it.
I’m expecting delivery of mine in a few weeks. How are the headlights? I’ve seen night drive videos for the Civic and HR-V and they looked fine. I’m a little concerned that the low black front brow above them will reduce the sight distance. I’m certainly not looking to blind oncoming traffic which I see all too often, I’m just hoping for the same distance as the other models.
Very nice!
Ordered one for my wife in white and I’m getting urban grey. Sport Touring on both. We have loved our 17 CRV so much it just seemed right to stay with it. I do have to give up my 2.0t accord though.
Same with me and my 2021 Accord 2.0T Touring!
Sell it private, they didn’t make them for every long as I recall so they would be a bit of a collectors item I would think. Easy to sell for lots of coin.
We just bought one, Radiant Red Sport Touring. Very comfortable, plenty of features and good mpg around 33 so far. PS We couldn't find a Rav4 in my area and they wanted a premium for it when one came in, it was sold. We did had choices with the CRV, now.
Congratulations
Good review! Those interested in the RAV4 Hybrid, be aware of the cable corrosion problems that owners are dealing with. Very expensive repair and toyota has not properly addressed the issue at this point.
Isn’t that resolved with the 2023 redesign ? Also they extended warranty coverage in USA AND Canada I heard
@@PostprandialTorpor Not resolved....but they have extended the warranty...which doesn't help if you keep your cars 10+ years.
I’m very much looking forward to your night drive. I actually just bought one of these (a few more weeks before it comes in) and I’m a little anxious about the performance of the headlamps. I just saw someone else’s night drive here on RUclips and they looked terrible. I’m optimistic it was just his camera settings but damn.
I'll let you know!
Are you picking CR-V Sport Hybrid over the Rav4 SE Hybrid? What about about the Sport Touring vs the XSE?
Also - I said the Sport has matte wheels when they're glossy as well and 18"
Also2 - real exhaust is only on right side. Left side is a decoy...a darn good looking decoy.
Krik.rav4 se hybrid over crv sport hybrid and rav4 xse over the crv sport touring .👑. Also the cx50 is better than the both overall
Agree to disagree! Cx-50 is better than the CRV turbos but not the crv hybrids. CRV is so much more efficient and roomy. CRV also has a far superior ride quality over the torsion beam cx50.
@@KirkKreifels i will say this .there as never been great time like this were you got excellent options .excellent video kirk.👍.you are the best
@@KirkKreifels where do you rank the Sportage, Tucson, Santa Fe hybrids compared to this? Great video!
@@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961 Only the Hybrid Touring is available in Canada and it's over $50,000 Canadian!!! 2023 RAV4 Hybrid has wireless Carplay and Android auto as well.
I got to test drive one of these a month ago. I drive a civic and this felt like it drives similar to my car, just higher up. I have been hearing from other reviewers that the mpg averages are 3-6 less than what Honda is saying, which surprises me.
I also talked to one of the managers at my local dealer and they were saying they think the CR-V lack of tech is due to the availability of chips and trying to get these out in a reasonable time (which I feel like was a miss considering older ones have better tech). Overall, I like this car but feel like those price hikes from prior year just weren’t justified enough for what you get, only if you got the EX gas trim since it’s more bang for your buck.
Look at the Hyundai Tucson and sportage. Those two have tons of tech and managed to get all their chips
Kirk! Why are you entitling your videos the way that Raiti’s Rides does?! LOL
Keep bringing the great content, mister. You’re awesome!
Haha coincidence? I've tried focusing on making my reviews cover two competing vehicles as that's what buyers are doing anyways
I think there lot bias depending what drive ! Had 2 CRV, drove rav4 vacation! Very similar.
I’d take either, you need look at it as business proposition, unless the deals are same, then favorite cone into play!!!😬
Great job with this video Kirk! I really enjoyed and appreciate that you were able to compare and contrast the different trim levels. Yet, you still did an excellent job at focusing on what the top spec version offers and your opinion on its place in this crowded SUV market.
Glad it was helpful!
Beautiful inside and out, but totally overpriced like many new Honda's, at least in Canada anyway. You can't even buy a Civic for under $28,000 anymore. Starting price of base spec is $28,772.50. Just 3 years ago base was $19,000. Just like the Civic, the CRV suffers the same fate. Yes, there is more tech, etc, but $10,000 more in just 3 years for the same trims? No thanks.
That’s MSRP going up… dealers want $5-10k above that… everyone is high off of that cheap money… party is over and the dealers are going to have a huge rude awakening
Yeah it is crazy my 2019 civic was 26k cad all in with extended warranty. To get the same in the 2023 it would be $33,800 all in but my interest rate was 0.99% today it would be 5.92%. Everyone has increased prices but Honda went insane.
Mr Bobby Brown back in 2020, I wanted to purchase a 2020 civic LX here in Canada and at the time the interest was around 1.99% for 5 and half years or 66 months and once they gave me the numbers and when I calculated it was going to be around $33k Canadian before tax for LX of all trims, so I went to its archrival and rest was history, walked out of the door for $22.7 for 60 months with 1.09% interest instead. The moral of the story is honda is way too expensive for what they offer and also their inventory was quite small.
Bobby. In Canada Honda’s unfortunately are overpriced . The better value is Acura which is the Honda luxury brand. The RDX is the better buy. The Audi q3 is a better buy also.
@@Dugger1991 Yes, I know Acura is the Honda luxury brand.
I got a chance to view the CR-V’s and the Pilot’s was very impressed. The CR-V’s did not have the options that would meet my requirements. I loved the Pilot’s also but just a little to high for my wife running boards were not an option. I hope everyone enjoys both the models.
Since you driven both RX 350h and this hybrid. Which one do you think is more of a good driving experience for you. I understand RX is a little more premium version, but wanted to know your opinion.
Like your comparisons on different brands & models.
Glad you like them!
Whoa! I wasn't even considering a CRV but the looks of the 2023 is nice!
Looks great, but the lack of a spare tire is unacceptable and a deal breaker for me.
Thanks for the review. I always enjoy the info you provide.
We (wife and I) drove the touring version...it's everything Kirk says it is...after consulting with our Honda salesman, we ordered the Sport Hybrid due to the cloth seats and 18" wheels which we preferred. We felt the sport model's front end and 18" wheels actually look cleaner than the touring and would hold it's value better. Being I Wisconsin we went with the AWD...NOTE: there are Touring models currently available but the sport hybrid has a 4 month order backlog here in Wisconsin.
Congratulations! Great choice!
I would go for that CR-V Sport Touring Hybrid because the quality and driving experience matter to me more than the extra things the RAV4 gives you 🌚❤️
CRV is superior in regards to ride quality and driving satisfaction no doubt.
hahaha rav4 is more than crv 😂 issues lots
Any update for the 23 Accord Sport Hybrid? Seems like it has been making in the manufacture already.
Yes. Driving it in two weeks
Kirk great video! Love your work! When will you be driving the new Accord, and how soon after that will we see your video? Can't wait! Thanks!
Love all your reviews and check for them daily. I'm looking to get either an HRV LX or lower end Crosstrek. I don't need all the bells and whistles, just want a reliable last car as I'm a young at heart 70 yr. old. Any ideas? thanks, Bill (replacing a 2013 turbo Juke I love)
Can't go wrong with either Bill. Snag the best deal you can find!
RAV4 hybrids have $1500-2500 mark up in my area.
I was close to pulling the trigger on the RAV4 hybrid but i found out about the cable corrosion issue.
I ended up placing an order for a CR-V sport touring hybrid in mid October, i should finally be getting it sometime this month.
It looks great, but that's about it. Compared to the RAV MPG it's so so, and 40k doesn't match up with what you'd get for the Rav
Very true about the MPG. However, the interior of the RAV looks Fischer-Price compared to the Honda and Rav4 current run is probably over at the end of this year, with a redesign coming. This Honda IS the redesign and it will look new and fresh for probably the next 4-5 years without a redesign.
Actually, the 40k does match what you get in the rav4… the xse is the trim level that is compared to this trim and you get cloth/leather combo, heated seats, and a normal moon roof. No premium audio. However, Toyota does have better gas mileage and a spare but the quality of the interior and the drive experience in the crv blows the rav4 out of the water.
Kirk, I am glad you shot this video near a harbor, oversized wheels are like a boat anchor on a hybrid. Honda gets the size spot-on with the CR-V but the RAV4 is a superior Hybrid by any measure. In about a year, will we start getting hints as to whether Toyota will match interior accommodation with its chief competitors. BTW I would like to hear an explanation as to why they could not fit a spare tire in a ground up redesign of the CR-V hybrid. 🤔
My next car. But my Subaru is still running too good to move on.
Kirk, which would you pick (CR-V or RAV4) if your main concern is NVH? Love the channel'
CRV is quieter smoother and handles better
I was looking between vehicles like the Rav 4 hybrid, CRV hybrid, Carolla Cross Hybrid, Forester. Maybe a Outlander PHEV, but that is significantly more, but at least in stock. Not sure inventory on these CRV's. But I wanted something that could tow a minimum of 1500lbs. Towing a motorcycle trailer. I'd go for a sport because all things you mentioned like heated options, fancy stereo, don't mean much to me. Its 120 degrees here in the summer, and leather/fake leather is awful in that heat.
I like to go camping or hiking which is usually off the beaten path and on offroads/softroads. Sometimes requires stream crossing about 1 foot deep.
Not sure this CRV hybrid would do. A friend of mine has their RAV 4 that hasn't ever had any issues and another with a Forester which pretty much lives in that element.
My old RD1 CRV can transverse it all but its suspension needs to be done but before I do I thought I look around for something new.
The fact that this is a question being asked between a completely new redesigned CRV and an old generation RAV4 speaks volumes. There are some things to like with the CRV, but there are so many missing features at this price point it is mind boggling. Not to mention some serious design oversights with a poor AWD system, battery placement not allowing for a spare tire, etc. Its like Honda just thought as long as we build them, people will buy.
I do not understand this trend for people wanting their vehicles to look menacing. They are cars. Not weapons
Good to have options and different strokes for different folks
If you want a happy looking car, go with an older gen Mazda Miata!
the CRv is as boring as anything made and looks like a vw tiguan copy
I managed to get 47 MPG on a 1 hr 30 min drive
I respect Honda for the quality and reliability, but little things really bug me about a 2023 vehicle. No door pocket on the drivers side seat? Really? no full 12.3 inch digital display? Come on Honda, No Pano roof? No sun shades? I also feel like the top spec should include all these things, but they are for practicality not luxury , so guess that comes with the territory!
No spare tire is the deal breaker for me. I don't like run flats or those dumb tire repair kits. At least Toyota you can get a spare tire.
Repairing a tire is really fast and easy. If anything it’s faster if you know what you’re doing. The non hybrid models have a spare tire btw
Great review! Good info and well presented. Considering the CR-V Sport vs a RAV4 XLE Hybrid. I thought the Honda drove better with a more upscale interior. Thought the RAV4 had a better exterior with better real world MPG from what reports say. Do wish the CR-V Hybrid had a spare tire.
Good car but price is too hight. Not sure it makes sense to pay over $40k for this now that the Model Y has dropped to for $45k after tax rebates..
Yh this crv top trim just lacks so many features compared to the rav4 and pretty much all its competitors
Useless features though
@@SIIKAP1 so you want to pay nearly the same money and get less features? In Canada the crv is at least $1000 more expensive than the rav4 and all the competition will you still buy it
@@Reu_ag I don’t need 360 cam, pano roof, digital rearview mirror, etc. Just more expensive things to break. I’d rather have more fun driving dynamics. Not everyone is a features junkie. And the CRV sport is priced cheaper than the equivalent trim RAV4 in USA. Not that I want a boring CUV anyway
It’s honda tho. They’ve always manufactured like this however I must say this is a great looking auto and the interior improvements and sophistication are extremely well done. They also do have an excellent track record for reliability and resale. I like features like the next person but I don’t want to pay for features that I don’t value. If you judge overall value based solely upon the amount of features that is a narrow view, in my humble opinion.
Very nice review, I was leaning towards the EX-L since it had many of the features I needed but you say to go for the Hybrid, the base sport loses alot so Sport Touring it is. I noticed that the EX-L has an extra button (Idle-Stop button) next to the hill descent control button. Why does the Sport Touring not have it?....Can it not be turn off I guess?
Idle start stop sucks and only there to help satisfy some mpg estimates. Hybrid doesn’t need that likely doesn’t even help as it can just go into EV mode effectively shutting off any combustion.
@@aznguyen316 idle-stop makes a traditional vehicle feel like a hybrid. I like it.
Great review I have one too! How do you get the cargo floor up?
Excellent
Fantastic review with practical comparison
I’d rather pay $1,148 more for a RAV4 Limited Hybrid and get A/C seats since I live in Honolulu and I optioned the digital review mirror and 360° camera on the RAV4.
Reason why I dont consider Honda's hybrids is because they are losing to toyota on mpg (especially real world mpg). Sure, it's a hybrid, but it seems its efficiency and technology that Honda uses doesnt compare to toyota's.
True but it’s not only about efficiency, drive quality and how good is it in the snow are also important. Also availability is a huge problem considering wait times for the Toyota.
I had a new 2018 Rav-4 SE. It was a lumber wagon that would get stuck in small amounts of snow. It was the worst
AWD system I ever owned. What was worse, is that no reviewer mentioned that problem. I now have the 2023 Honda Hybrid Sport. I feel it is much better than the Rav-4. Rav-4 dealers nickel and dime a potential customers to death, with extras with extra charges. Most Honda models come well equipment with few if any options. Toyota seems like a bunch of hype in my opinion.
Test drove this and the Rav4 hybrid back to back. I RAN back to the Honda dealership to put down a deposit.
The Rav4 sounds so coarse when driving over 30mph and highway noise was so bad me and the salesman were raising our voices to keep talking, it lets in so much road and wind noise. Plus on the Brand new RAV4 there were squeaks coming from the trunk. The CRV had no such issues in this 25 degree weather. Rav4 was a TAD zippier feeling but not enough to win me over. Toyota is getting away with $3.5k over MSRP. The CRV is $1k (non-negotiable but it comes with all-weather mats, splash guards, and 3 years of oil changes.) over at my stealership so the prices for similar specked amenities come to be within 500$ of each other after "MarKet AdJuStmEnt".
The CRV has a much smoother, and tranquil ride above 30 mph. 100% Prefer the refined, smooth and quiet ride of the CRV, even if it is a WHOLE .3 seconds slower. The ONLY thing I would change about the CRV is giving it a spare tire. It seems like a terrible decision to have not made room for even a donut spare. Fix a flat will work in some conditions, but not all. I've never needed to throw on a spare in my 13 years of driving, but it is always when you don't have it is when you need it. I will abuse the complementary roadside assistance due to their horrible engineering decision. That is my biggest apprehension, but I will take that over an unapologetically noisy and cheap interior.
I just iordered one in Canada for almost an even trade to my other car delivery late April or Early May 48k in Canada, Rav 4 hybrid late mode is a two year waiting period
Kirk, what is your opinion for the “best value for the price” and great gas millage small SUV. I’m looking a family friendly vehicle. I love the new Prius but feels too small to grow my family into. Thanks
I hope they bring these to the Uk in the next year, as we often have to wait ages after the US. I think they’ll be hybrids only here. Just love the feel and build of Honda CRVs. We have an old RAV4 and the interior is awful, but it is very reliable.
I always though the hook you pointed out at 3:02 is an eye hook for winching the vehicle. For example if stuck or loading on a tow truck. Can you say what else would be pulled with it? Perhaps it's for a chain if one were to use some of that 1000lb towing capacity.
I'm thinking it could be used to help pull ATV or small vehicle out of rough spot. Also if CR-V is in a bad spot you can hook it to helper vehicle. Not for towing perse but for assistance
somewhat confusing - you totally recommend not going for the non hybrid system. you recommend going with the hybrid? thanks. nice video
The problem with the CRV hybrid is there’s not enough trim levels with this power train. Toyota offers hybrids in every trim level for most of their models.
Mine is being made next week, can’t wait!!
This is NOT dual exhaust. There's no Left tailpipe, it's fake. You would have seen that Kirk had you been more observant. Honda failed to hide it's only single exhaust under the body. A lost opportunity that actually costed Honda money.
I find that the 2 SUVs look quite similar. Honda's emulated the RAV-4's more angular shape.
Doesn't matter which looks nicer, will never go on a family road trip in the car with no spare tire, so Rav4 for me if I had to choose btwn two. Yes, flat tire out in nowhere is no fun. Better AWD won't help either.
Ordered my Sport touring, getting it this or next week with no mark up. Reason I chose the top trim is that it has everything I need , better AWD than RAV4 with 50/50 F and R power and not planning to upgrade any soon.
Great choice!
@@KirkKreifels great review as well!
which one is quieter? RAV4 or CRV? thanks
CRV
Hands down, the CRV is quieter, roomier, and a much better ride, the last one being my opinion, the other two mentions, are facts. I've had my 2023 CRV Hybrid for a month and love it.
13:16 But the Toyota in that model gives more features and XM radio. Honda removed that for top trims. I just want the added start with phone. Honda can’t seem to offer that.
Honda always great with powerful performance like this CRV
Where are the driving lights for late night country driving ?Do all lights come on ( head ,tail and brakes lights for winter day time snowing weather .a white out is bad enough but to be rear ended is awful with no tail lights see alot of cars this poor light set up .
Beautiful but CVT ….best if they turn into an automatic transmission
its an e-CVT, big difference
What Brand is that back pack Kirk?
Completely flummoxed by the decision of omitting the back pocket on the back of the other front seat. I am not sure how much money they save, but kind of find it offensive that the need to save money goes to that level. One wonders what else they are skimping on that we cannot see.
no spare tire is a hard sell for me
Kirk, where did you get the info for what you wrote at the top of the video at 14:30. I have scoured Honda's website, forums, and product information sheets and cannot find anything to back up what you have on here.
hondanews.com/en-US/honda-automobiles/releases/release-738212678b96ed3a76e7285afd03f86b-2023-honda-cr-v-press-kit?selectedTabId=release-738212678b96ed3a76e7285afd03f86b-videos
@@KirkKreifels Awesome! thanks so much for that link! I wish they would make this stuff easier to find for the layman. 😁😁
Do you drive normally in B or D???
This is the top of the line CRV and I don't see the cargo cover. I wonder does the cargo cover come with it?
in the U.S. you have to pay extra for it
Drives great!!!
Probably my age speaking but I don’t care for all the black accenting especially when that’s the only choice on the interior.
Not necessarily a deal breaker but I wish there was a spare tire; the only time I’ve ever had a flat tire is when I’ve hit something on the road and ruined the tire. A can of air is kinda useless when that happens.
Interested in the feature set specs for the lower trims. Based on light research, it looks like at least the EX gas model has a near poverty spec infotainment system with no SiriusXM. Not sure if the EX-L gas model has more features or just a bigger screen and wireless CarPlay. Sport Hybrid looks enticing but I’d imagine it has similar infotainment to the base EX model.
They all have satellite and Bluetooth and apple and Android
@@KirkKreifels you sure about that? I didn’t see SiriusXM featured on the EX someone else reviewed.
I bought the EX AWD and after 2,500 miles it says my mpg is 30.9. To get CarPlay or Android Auto you plug your phone into the USB. I live in a rural area so I don't use navigation much so I don't mind that. Bluetooth connects automatically which is what I use most. If I want navigation and Android Auto it uses up the one USB port and I like to fill a thumb drive up with music but as I said I live in a rural area and don't use maps much. The infotainment system is lower end. I used the wireless Android Auto on my previous vehicle and it was convenient but it also constantly used up data on my phone. One of the main reasons I didn't get the hybrid is the lack of a spare tire but also it looks like the gains in mpg are mostly for city driving.
I bought my wife a Red metallic CRV hybrid Sport (not touring) two weeks ago and the salesman said it had XM radio which it doesn't ! After the sale he said you plug it into your phone and get XM radio with the android auto and Nav. The charging ports are very slow chargers. He said if you want to spend $6K more you can get XM and the other stuff. We didn't want leather living in South FL sun eats the leather. What we miss is the back door auto opener, Nav built in , XM radio, 90% of our driving is city. If your mostly highway driving in rural area I'd go for the non hybrid. Its decent size inside and comfy cloth is nice. I hate being squashed and Im 290 lbs but I feel ok on those seats and interior. Watch out for all the added fees ridiculous! Hybrids seem to be harder to get from what I read we paid sticker plus all the other crap they add on Tax, tag, title, dealer fee no choice and didn't pay the extra $6K dealer market adjustment sticker. From what I see driving at night comparing to my other cars and truck you don't really miss the fog lights the stock LED headlights light up the sides of the road very well super bright. The auto hi beams work well also. Do your homework read the options, investigate ask questions even though they lie to make a sale. I haven't checked the miles per gal yet. Not too worried about no spare tire thinking back all the years I had flats they were a nail/screw and a very slow leak that you could put in air and keep going unless a blowout or sidewall.
I just don’t understand the obsession with AWD. Y’all know you have to replace ALL your tires when you get a flat; right? Increased maintenance, lower fuel economy? It’s a no from me
It's not necessary for most. Nor is a new car... It's something we want
the only hybrid for me which is successful is Toyota
Ironic since Honda was first with hybrids in the usa at least.
But i am inclined to agree as Honda was more and lightweight special purpose coupe manual.
Toyota was going for a mass market family car.
That’s because you’re brainwashed into thinking only Toyota makes a good hybrid. Stay closed minded
@@SIIKAP1 no I am not I have Hybrid toyota and hybrid honda, so I have thing to compare with…
In terms of practicality and reliability and parts availability Toyota has the more choice and price range honda it’s not…
Where is the 0-60 time?
It's just under 8s to 60
Very nice, but wow... it looks exactly like a Volvo from the rear...
Does the CR-V have fog lights?
What’s the headroom like?
I am 6ft 4in, the headroom is ok what I cannot say about Kia Sportage
The CRV hybrid already has an engine recall .
Lc500 Do they have Special edition
I've got a hot take on Honda and i think this CRV review has me convinced....Acura is hurting Honda in the USA. Honda is suppressing the level of features included in the US CRV to give lame ass Acura some breathing room. I've noticed that the CRV available in Asia has a pano roof and some other options that we dont get in the US. VERY LAME. Let Acura die. Its a mess and Honda owners are suffering because of it.
Toyota's hybrid system is more complicate and better performance than Honda's. But I didn't enjoy any Toyota I have driven. So I got a CRV Sport.
Your reliving is very poor. Why do you have to take your hands off the steering wheel to wave them around when you talk?
Was loving it but overpriced and those silver front bumper scoops look goofy A.F.
Will you be driving the crown any time soon ?
We'll see!
Hi! Thanks for the video. Nice looking SUVs, but the majority of states have snow. All those Honda grooves and cut ins, particularly in the back, would be a pain to clean after heavy snow. I don't have a garage. Would have liked to see more equal driving of each model for a fair comparison.
50% of states have snow ?
Hate black wheels.
Ex and EXL have silver wheels
Why? The look?
Is not a sport car or sport engine than what that hell put the sport in the back for? 😊
my mpg is only 32-33 😭
It has a 1.06kWH battery not 1.4
The CRV sport touring is a better vehicle than the RAV4 xse hybrid. The seats are leather vs cloth inserts better stereo (Bose). The looks are better, feels more premium, and drives better. Theirs is more to the vehicle than absence of a panoramic sunroof, 360 camera and ventilated seats.
I agree. Watch my night drive on the crv coming soon.
3:00 that’s not dual exhaust, it’s only on the right side, the left one is fake, shame on you Honda for putting a fake exhaust on the left side, also, dual fake exhaust on the new Pilot.
I don't know how I missed that! I don't hate it though. Honda has designed it to be hard to see it's only single exhaust.
While the interior might be a slight improvement in some regards (this instrument panel and lack of seat release latches are def a step back) the exterior is not as attractive as the previous gen. The lack of fog lights and less LEDs is kinda sad to see it get cheapened. I like my 2018 CRV and this "upgrade" is not something I get excited about.
Overpriced.Hate to say this but Hyundai actually has better value for the price
42k for a CRV for my ideal crv i would keep for 15 years+. That is a shit ton of money. Thats about 300 a month for 15 years essentially by the time you include tax and interest. God i hope the civic hybrid hatch in sport touring comes here. I would much rather save 6k and get a civic hatch if it was here
I got a question for you, why would you want a civic hybrid on a touring model where other competitors offer their hybrids on middle trims for better pricing and more. If honda does put the civic hybrid on touring model they will lose our to competition easily.
@@alvinsimba734 the touring has a good sound system. Plus the civic has one of the best cargo areas, has the best looks of a hybrid imo. What exaple do do have that a mid trim has more for better pricing thst is also from a reliable brand. Meaning not hyundai/kia
@@Hallowsaw toyota is the greatest example.
@@alvinsimba734 so i would only compare the civic with the toyota prius that just came out everything else is either a sedan or suv that is a hubrid so completely different category. The civic has a better sound system, more upscale interior, larger cargo space, i dont need awd so thats just added cost on the prius for no benefit to me. Civic looks way better in my opinion. The civic has alway been one of the most popular cars in the world so parts are very regularly available. The prius depending on weather you get an xle awd(same mpg as civic hybrid) or the limited(2 more mpg) that still only is only $800 more in gas over 200k miles in the civic. Does that justify the 1500 extra cost of the prius limited over a civic sport touring. Nope. Why would you suggest the toyota over the civic? Just curious cause honda and toyota are not as reliable as they use to be so that is kind of a null argument. Even Mazda is better in that category these days
@@Hallowsaw my friend I think you got lost. Prius and civic are in different class. Civic vs Corolla is the right comparison. Civic is popular in North America thats about it. In South Africa they are almost non existent, I was there in June 2022 and corollas are all over the world. The civic doesn't have a hybrid at this moment in time, the corolla does have 4 different trims for hybrid especially the sedan variant so right there the civic is already behind. Toyota has so many options for everyone when it comes to trims. Hondas are way too expensive for what they are and even though I don't rate the Korean brands that much, they are catching up to honda when it comes to value and features which an average driver sadly cares along with pricing. Also the corolla hybrids are not even top trim either and even if the civic brings their hybrid out I can bet with my top dollar it's already on touring trim which will be a failure due to cost. Honda never learns and the CRV us already facing the fate. You mentioned prius and does honda have priua variant and that answer is no so honda has so much to learn at this point. So Shawn as much as you like Honda, yes they are beautiful and all that, plus their outrageous pricing and they are already going downhill as we speak and pricing will always being Achilles heel for them.
Kia Sportage and Hyundai Tucson much better products more tech more luxury ... Honda and Toyota still have a lot of catching up to do
Vs prius?
Prius over everything lol
@@KirkKreifels 👍
@@KirkKreifels haha I'm driving one now i hope they make enough so no markups.
Looks like they prime is going to be the hard to get one if they get the prorated tax credit as rumored
Wish the CRV sport came with wireless android auto. Bummer. Love it otherwise!!
It’s nice but I prefer the 2022