If you don't need TTL (I don't), you can save tons by buying the BM version of the AD600. It runs what, 200 bucks cheaper? A very neat trick is that using the X1T controller to trigger the strobe, you can use the hotshoe on that controller to trigger more stuff. I am using the yongnuo 622 trigger with some 685 flashes as background light and as long as it isn't inserted all the way down on the hotshoe, manual works (TTL does not). This way you can actually keep two systems in parallel instead of ditching the entire old setup.
Hi, I've just bought the Neewer F3-500 Strobe but I can't get to grips with the trigger functions. Is there any chance you could do a quick 5/10 min video on the remote trigger I think the setup is the same for the 400. I want to use it with my Nikon D7200 and it can be setup for Nikon or Canon. I've tried my supplier, and Neewer and their response was ..."do you want to send it back". Not very helpful.... So this is me on bended knee begging for help......Pleaseeeeeee
Really thanks for the video... I'm quite interested in the Neewer system... mostly because it is less expensive and I need 2... Concerning that, you said that the Godox est a little less than the double of the price... this is true, but: for this price, Godox doesn't provide the trigger system, and if you need more batteries, the Godox is 175euros and the Neewer is 45euros... and... the trigger from godox is for Nikon OR Canon, and the one from Neewer is the same for both (Nikon and Canon).... Of course less power... but some other advantage I think...! Thanks for this nice review... Last question. Concerning the power comparison, did you use the same light-modifier in both...?
Finally I both the Neewer system. 2 Flash +1 extra battery for a total of 460euros -> 530USD... The recycling time is the main problem in my point of view.... Of course Godox is better... but I'm amateur... too much expensive for me
Hi Trent. Bought my f1-400 this week from amazon. £260 uk. Haven't really had chance to test it yet. But really really disappointed with the build quality. Opened the case and the foam cut outs look like they've been cut with a rusty spoon. Removed the cap gently after watching your video. 4 or 5 deep scratches. On/off switch seems a bit lose. Dial/turn knob on rear wobbles. Bulb not central. about 5mm towards one side. Light stand doesn't really fit into screw thread. Just the handle. HSS on nikon seems a nightmare to set up. Looks like you have to have 2 groups open. A ttl & B manual. Kicking myself for not going with the less powerful wistro 200 price wise. Apart from that. It's great 😀
Nice. Please mind the units of power, though. Ws is energy consumed where W is power potential. Ws is like a millimeter to 3.6 kilometer - the mini version of kWh (kilo.Watt.hours) on your electricity invoice at home. The manufacturer just tells how much electrical power is consumed from the battery in one full flash. Meaningless photographically. The efficiency of the electrical circuit and flash lamp determine how much light comes out. So 400 could give more than 600. Profoto and Bron would publish a guide number (correct exposure=distance*aperture) for a reflector of their choice. IMO Profoto's choice to integrate the flash tube (not expose it) means you always need a softbox's inner baffle in order to use the reflective side walls (that you need for feathering). Leaving the flash tube exposed means you'll likely break one, some day. Mind you, at the same per Ws light output, 1200 Ws is only 4 F-stops more than a 75 Ws speedlight.
Photo Tamilan I would love to but I'm not sponsored so I have to pay for this stuff out of my pocket so I would probably not be doing a rebranded version because I would think it would be the same output.
Hi Trent, Charlie posted a hard time setting Nikon HSS. Do you have idea what is going on ? Do you have Nikon Camera? Any suggestion to have HSS properly? Thanks
Good video but I can't seem to understand why does so many reviewers use a black background with black cloths demonstrating black products, you just end up getting a floating head with arms with product disappearing in to the background.
I like your video's a lot, but would like to say that it is not fair to compare the output of the strobes when one has a reflector and the other has not. If you want to measure differences in output you need to measure it in several ways. A reflector increases the light towards the lightmeter. I think it is better to meassure it when it bounces of a white ceiling. In adition you can use a measurement through a white umbrella and a softbox. The Godox should have a half stop more power. Because of the very small reflector of the Neewer it might be a little bigger difference. I hope you do not feel offended. I enjoy your video's. Thank you very much.
Henk van de Kaa thank you for your input and commitment. I did used the same Bowen reflector on both strobes to try to keep it fair as much as I can. I neglected to show that in the video for the power out test when I edited the video. I used the same method and output because I actually really like this unit and think it is a budget. Thank you again.
Really well done video - THANKS! Do you happen to know if the Godox XT1 trigger will work with the Neewer light? I do have this 2.4GHz 30 channel five group trigger, which transmits the TTL and HSS functions, for use with my Godox TT685-o (OLympus) flash and of course the AD models, and it would be fantastic if the same trigger "talks" to the F1-400. The AD600 looks great but I simply cannot afford the price.
You probably won't get an answer. But I don't think the Godox trigger will work however you might be able to trigger it with your TT685 using the in slave mode. I would use the TT685 in slave and use the Neewer transmitter to trigger them although you probably have to use the Tt685 in manual mode.
I have a very important question. Is there a way to change the output value from the knob in the back of the strobe itself without having to go back and forth to the transmitter (handy in light painting while the camera is on a tripod far away from you). I try it, it changes temporarily but when i take the shoot it goes back to the transmitter values.
Hi, nice video. I got mine (F1-400) for couple of days. Nice piece of strobe for this amount of money. However I've noticed one cons. When I shoot in HSS mode between 1/250 and 1/640 my frame is not equaly exposed. After 1/640 everything is brilliant. Have you experienced it too ?? Greetings
@@TrentDangphoto thanks for comment! So I think this is the first bug :(. Well I need to keep that in mind to stay above 1/640 while shooting in HSS mode. Greetings
Honestly I learned on manual and that is what I feel comfortable using most of the time, but the few times I used the TTL indoor, it did a good job of lighting the subject with a -0.3 exposure compensation for my liking.
Comparing them is wrong. These are from different class. Godox is much powerful while neewer is less powerful. comparing a 600ws light to a 400ws light is injustice. I am sure neewer is a good product, i liked the output from it. The deal breaker for neewer is the fact that its a stand alone light while godox is an entire system. People buy differently power rated lights but being able to work them in tandem is the key to efficiency. With godox one can use an ad600 with an ad200 & a v860ii. This is what makes godox a better choice.
Bad Boy Rico I’m trying to show the bang for your buck. About half the price but generate a similar power performance. Trying to show much power 400w vs 600w really is in real life.
The one I like to see a review on is the Neewer Vision5 400W iTTL HHS for Nikon
Great light I own 1
I like Neewer F1-400 because of for the Range, Thx so much for Video. Good Job
Cheers
If you don't need TTL (I don't), you can save tons by buying the BM version of the AD600. It runs what, 200 bucks cheaper? A very neat trick is that using the X1T controller to trigger the strobe, you can use the hotshoe on that controller to trigger more stuff. I am using the yongnuo 622 trigger with some 685 flashes as background light and as long as it isn't inserted all the way down on the hotshoe, manual works (TTL does not). This way you can actually keep two systems in parallel instead of ditching the entire old setup.
benzynowypiotrek thanks for helpful suggestions
Hi, I've just bought the Neewer F3-500 Strobe but I can't get to grips with the trigger functions. Is there any chance you could do a quick 5/10 min video on the remote trigger I think the setup is the same for the 400. I want to use it with my Nikon D7200 and it can be setup for Nikon or Canon. I've tried my supplier, and Neewer and their response was ..."do you want to send it back". Not very helpful.... So this is me on bended knee begging for help......Pleaseeeeeee
Really thanks for the video... I'm quite interested in the Neewer system... mostly because it is less expensive and I need 2... Concerning that, you said that the Godox est a little less than the double of the price... this is true, but: for this price, Godox doesn't provide the trigger system, and if you need more batteries, the Godox is 175euros and the Neewer is 45euros... and... the trigger from godox is for Nikon OR Canon, and the one from Neewer is the same for both (Nikon and Canon)....
Of course less power... but some other advantage I think...!
Thanks for this nice review...
Last question. Concerning the power comparison, did you use the same light-modifier in both...?
Finally I both the Neewer system. 2 Flash +1 extra battery for a total of 460euros -> 530USD...
The recycling time is the main problem in my point of view....
Of course Godox is better... but I'm amateur... too much expensive for me
Hi Trent. Bought my f1-400 this week from amazon. £260 uk. Haven't really had chance to test it yet. But really really disappointed with the build quality.
Opened the case and the foam cut outs look like they've been cut with a rusty spoon.
Removed the cap gently after watching your video. 4 or 5 deep scratches.
On/off switch seems a bit lose.
Dial/turn knob on rear wobbles.
Bulb not central. about 5mm towards one side.
Light stand doesn't really fit into screw thread. Just the handle.
HSS on nikon seems a nightmare to set up. Looks like you have to have 2 groups open.
A ttl & B manual.
Kicking myself for not going with the less powerful wistro 200 price wise. Apart from that. It's great 😀
Sorry to hear that. Sounds like you got a bad copy. I would return it. I appreciate you sharing your experience.
Nice. Please mind the units of power, though. Ws is energy consumed where W is power potential. Ws is like a millimeter to 3.6 kilometer - the mini version of kWh (kilo.Watt.hours) on your electricity invoice at home. The manufacturer just tells how much electrical power is consumed from the battery in one full flash. Meaningless photographically. The efficiency of the electrical circuit and flash lamp determine how much light comes out. So 400 could give more than 600. Profoto and Bron would publish a guide number (correct exposure=distance*aperture) for a reflector of their choice. IMO Profoto's choice to integrate the flash tube (not expose it) means you always need a softbox's inner baffle in order to use the reflective side walls (that you need for feathering). Leaving the flash tube exposed means you'll likely break one, some day. Mind you, at the same per Ws light output, 1200 Ws is only 4 F-stops more than a 75 Ws speedlight.
Ohh there is also a rebranded Neewer version of AD600BM...can we include that too in any one of ur future videos ?
Photo Tamilan I would love to but I'm not sponsored so I have to pay for this stuff out of my pocket so I would probably not be doing a rebranded version because I would think it would be the same output.
TrentDangphoto That's true....don't worry...your work is amazing...soon you will reach heights...
it's literally just a rebrand, why bother?
Hi Trent, Charlie posted a hard time setting Nikon HSS. Do you have idea what is going on ? Do you have Nikon Camera? Any suggestion to have HSS properly? Thanks
Good video but I can't seem to understand why does so many reviewers use a black background with black cloths demonstrating black products, you just end up getting a floating head with arms with product disappearing in to the background.
TrentDangphoto
Will the Neewer TTL transmitter works fully on Canon RT system?
Where can I even get this neewer strobe. I cant find it and want it lol
Thanks! Can you compare power out put of the godox ad600pro vs godox ad600. I believe that the pro is 1 stop less power.
I'm not sponsored so I can only compare product that I can barrow from other photographers. I wish I knew someone with a pro.
@@TrentDangphoto If you can borrow that would be great. Perhaps put out a request. Thanks!
I like your video's a lot, but would like to say that it is not fair to compare the output of the strobes when one has a reflector and the other has not. If you want to measure differences in output you need to measure it in several ways. A reflector increases the light towards the lightmeter. I think it is better to meassure it when it bounces of a white ceiling. In adition you can use a measurement through a white umbrella and a softbox. The Godox should have a half stop more power. Because of the very small reflector of the Neewer it might be a little bigger difference. I hope you do not feel offended. I enjoy your video's. Thank you very much.
Henk van de Kaa thank you for your input and commitment. I did used the same Bowen reflector on both strobes to try to keep it fair as much as I can. I neglected to show that in the video for the power out test when I edited the video. I used the same method and output because I actually really like this unit and think it is a budget. Thank you again.
Thanks a lot for your kind answer. It is good to know that the Godox produces more light and that you measured it the right way.
Wiil it work with the NEEWER N1T 2.4G Transmitter without the using the NEEWER N1T recievers?
Really well done video - THANKS!
Do you happen to know if the Godox XT1 trigger will work with the Neewer light? I do have this 2.4GHz 30 channel five group trigger, which transmits the TTL and HSS functions, for use with my Godox TT685-o (OLympus) flash and of course the AD models, and it would be fantastic if the same trigger "talks" to the F1-400. The AD600 looks great but I simply cannot afford the price.
You probably won't get an answer. But I don't think the Godox trigger will work however you might be able to trigger it with your TT685 using the in slave mode. I would use the TT685 in slave and use the Neewer transmitter to trigger them although you probably have to use the Tt685 in manual mode.
so what happens when i take pictures and does not wait for the strobe to recycle before i take another shoot? will it shut down or blow up?
You can take a pic, just the flash won’t go off so the photo will be dark.
cool to compare tables flash duration with power
I have a very important question. Is there a way to change the output value from the knob in the back of the strobe itself without having to go back and forth to the transmitter (handy in light painting while the camera is on a tripod far away from you). I try it, it changes temporarily but when i take the shoot it goes back to the transmitter values.
dehihohoh the transmitter overrides the setting on the strobe. I don't know an way of altering that option.
Good vid, but what would be helpful is color accuracy and real world use, and maybe available accessories.
Thank you for the input.
Good video Trent
Thank you Ray
Great video my friend! Thanks for the comparison video. It really helped me make a better buying decision.
Isn't the Godox 600 W? The godox is way more expensive so I don't see how that even compare.
Minute 3:20 range test: will it trigger if you would go behind the walls? Like behind that house in the left side?
It uses the same frequency as like a cordless phone so it has no problem going through walls.
Thank you for the reply!
Hi, nice video. I got mine (F1-400) for couple of days. Nice piece of strobe for this amount of money. However I've noticed one cons. When I shoot in HSS mode between 1/250 and 1/640 my frame is not equaly exposed. After 1/640 everything is brilliant. Have you experienced it too ?? Greetings
I have noticed that too. It looks like the camera goes back to not HSS (1/200) for one shoot then resume HSS after that.
@@TrentDangphoto thanks for comment! So I think this is the first bug :(. Well I need to keep that in mind to stay above 1/640 while shooting in HSS mode. Greetings
Did you find the TTL mode reliable?
Honestly I learned on manual and that is what I feel comfortable using most of the time, but the few times I used the TTL indoor, it did a good job of lighting the subject with a -0.3 exposure compensation for my liking.
I cant find a place to buy it..
So, who wins?
is there any neewer speedlight compatible to the q1 trigger ?
James G. André Triopo TR-982III and Andoer AD-980III, N or C (nikon or canon) version.
Will the Godox trigger work with the Neewer 400?
No, it uses different signal.
Is this flash still a "no-go" for Nikon users?
Too Shmart I was able to test it on a Nikon and it works with HSS and everything else.
????? why not compare the AD400 with the F1-400 that's matching
Comparing them is wrong. These are from different class. Godox is much powerful while neewer is less powerful. comparing a 600ws light to a 400ws light is injustice. I am sure neewer is a good product, i liked the output from it. The deal breaker for neewer is the fact that its a stand alone light while godox is an entire system. People buy differently power rated lights but being able to work them in tandem is the key to efficiency. With godox one can use an ad600 with an ad200 & a v860ii. This is what makes godox a better choice.
i have a nikon d5100
F1-400 does not work properly with HSS with my Nikon D500. The Godox is a better choice hands down.
Nieves have you tried updating the firmware for the trigger. I'm downloading it and will try it out myself.
TrentDangphoto I visited the website and its in Chinese, if you have a link that’s in English please share thank you.
Nieves I'm reaching out to Neewer to see if they get a firmware for me because I can't read Chinese or figure out the download process.
Why are you even trying to compare them. They're totally different powered systems. Absolutely stupid!!!
Bad Boy Rico I’m trying to show the bang for your buck. About half the price but generate a similar power performance. Trying to show much power 400w vs 600w really is in real life.