I loved my S-Type 3.0 V6, could do 100s of miles in it feeling refreshed and with uprated bushes was sporty enough when the road got twisty. I did always hanker for a XJ though. Still, a bargain these days
I had a couple of S-type V8's before having an XJ (x358) diesel. I expected the XJ to be more comfortable but at lower speeds I found the suspension to be a bit harsh, by comparison to the S-type. The handling of the XJ however was really rather extraordinary, partially due to it's lighter, stiffer chassis and partially to it's very precise steering.
S-types are still good buys even in todays car climate. I can hope online and fine some low mileage(For their age) and clean examples for not a lot of money. I would like to have a go at one within the next few years.
@@quinnferguson912, I had the S-type 'R' and it had the the supercharged 4.2 liter V-8, just a pinch under 400 HP out of the box, could it light those tires up, loved it and a real attention getter at the grocery store.
A few years back I bought a rather battered V8 S-type from an 85year old who was giving up driving for a whopping £200😁 It had only 45k on the clock, the interior was immaculate, & it drove beautifully, the body on the other hand was very neglected, plenty of evidence of the old guy''s parking skills! A good weekends work made it look 90 % better, a bit of bumper repairs later, she looked stunning. I still regret selling it, but love the XKR that replaced it.
I loved my S type v6 petrol. In 10 years of ownership I had no major issues. Only regular maintenance costs. There was only a little bit of rust on the wheel arches but nothing major. It was easily repairable. I personally don't know why the s type is getting all those bad reviews from automotive journalists. From 2003 onwards the S type is a very, very good car. Design wise, the S type is also quite nice and different looking which in my book is a plus.
I'm 34 and have a 10 year old son who's obsessed with me getting a jag ... I'm now looking for one after seeing this Jay 🤣 I think you've just convinced me! My little lucas will rejoice, thank you.
I see your son Is rather cultured Haha! Try one I think you won't regret it. On a sidenote when I was 10 I kept begging my dad to get jag as well but an E-type 🤣
@@Thanos.m quick question! I haven't driven an auto before and we've found a BEAUT in blue in Bexhill next to us in Hastings with low miles (72k on a 09 plate) would it be better to look for a manual? Also thanks so much for the reply It means a lot.
@@jonnywalker3208 in all honesty if you are going for a Jag I would not go for manual I just got a brand new one as courtesy car and it's a manual one of the worst manuals I've driven. The 6 speed auto is super smooth but responsive enough
@@jonnywalker3208 I had a 2.7D for a number of years. It was a great car. I now have a XF S 3.0D (X260) which I’m enjoying as well. Go for the Auto you won’t regret it.
I had S Types for about twelve years. The first was a low mileage 4 litre V8 whose previous owner was a chauffeur driven chairman of a large multinational company based in London and as anticipated it had all the bells and whistles fitted. Unfortunately I wrote it off. The replacement was a two year old STR with 14,000 miles on the clock which I ran for seven / eight years and traded in after having racked up 168,000 miles. The STR was an amazing car and when in sport mode it felt like starship enterprise entering warp drive when you floored the accelerator as it literally hurled itself down the road. Averaged 22 mpg in mixed city / motorway use but could achieve 32 mpg on a motorway run using cruise control. Never had a corrosion issue with mine but it was a daily drive covering high mileages I guess it was getting a proper airing.
I'm lucky enough to own a 3.0l V6 S Type Sport with a manual box and active suspension and I love it. It's much stiffer and sportier than I expected. Practical, so comfortable and never fails to bring a smile to my face.
@@staLkerhu Hey I think im qualified to answer in this case. I have bought and now owned a year 2000 Jaguar s-type 3.0 Manual since november last year. The car still runs ive put about 3000km on it. I bought it for 5500 euros at 89000km. I dont think you will get such a good deal anymore, yet I can tell you a few problems. The engine has a slight misfire between 1500rpm and 1900rpm during acceleration, or during idle when the clutch is engaded and ive driven it for over a hour. I have a airbag light warning everytime after it rained which after its dried up will go away and sporadically appear every 2 weeks or so. So overall for a 23 year old car it still runs great and all those issues will be checked on next month at a dealership. Also the fastest I went was 230kph (I could have gone top speed) so no loss in power. Hope this helps!
My first car was a 2001 S-Type V8 with the 4.0 liter engine. Sold it 3 years later only to buy it back from the same guy 4 years after that. Never selling it again I love the car!
Im 18 and I have a 2002 S-Type 3.0 manual and I love it, bought it from my mom for under a grand and want to keep it for as long as possible, its mint, no rust , garage kept
Gotta love that car mate. I'm 24, got the same combo [2004]. It's hands-down one of the easiest cars I have ever seen to fix yourself, really no reason at all to get shafted by "premium" repair bills.
JayEmm....people love Jags. I owned a really rare Long Wheelbase series 1 XJ6 in Regency red with natural leather hides (bone colour) . I lived in Bloomsbury Ave, Pymble , Sydney. Australia each morning I needed to make a right hand turn out of Bloomsbury Ave onto Pacific Highway (the absolute main northern road in Sydney) . I owned it 32 years & it's maintenance was paid by my employer, It always looked like it was NEW , not only did people like it , when fellow road users saw it wanting to turn right onto this primary road they stopped/crawled AND WAVED ME OUT, frequently that said same courteous driver would move to my left , tip the horn and in the stop start traffic or at a set of street stop/go lights say how lovely it looked. After 32years I sold it after I bought a 1967 jag mk10 or 420G (british leylands renaming of the 4.2 litre mk10). The Mk10 was even more like new with a mere 52,000mls & just one owner from 1967 thru to 2010. I get the same respect from other road users in the XJ6's big brother mk10.
Once you got one you will never forget it and you’ll always have a strong desire to getting one again . I can confirm it cause that’s what i feeling too.
Of all the cars I've had over the years including 3 S-Types, 3ltr pet, 2.5 pet and 2.7 diesel. I have to say that if I could have any one of them back in top notch condition, it would be the 2.7 diesel. 56 plate. It was so comfortable, quiet and relaxing to drive over short, or better still, long journeys. It was superb.
I've had a 2.7d for the last 4 years & couldn't agree more. I've had zero breakdowns & had to deal with 1 spot of rust on a wheel arch. When I bought this car, I chose it over an S class Mercedes & I have zero regrets
I inherited my late Mother’s 2001 S-Type 4.0 V8 in 2010…in nearly mint condition and with barely 23K on the clock…what a blessing! Great Spec in Sapphire Blue over Ivory…loved it for the next six summers…never Wintered, even by Mom! I sold it to her old best friend (a Jag lover!) at a jaggedly depreciated price ($55K US when new!) …but Mom’s stylish old Jag is living her best life today in retirement in posh Naples, Florida! Mom’s old friend cherishes that gorgeous S-Type to this day..! Hope she enjoys it for many more years…that car was posh, sexy and surprisingly brisk..!
I just turned 18 and Ive been driving an s type 2.5 for almost a year now I love it to its every bit the wood interior is just perfect yes its slow but I love it I dont think of selling it
Regarding the Mustang (D2C platform) link to the S-Type, they're more like cousins than direct descendants. There's a bit of an evolutionary fork there to be aware of. The 1999 Jaguar S-Type given model name X200 was based on the Ford DEW and had a lot in common with the Lincoln LS and Thunderbird. It went down like a lead balloon here in the UK though and Jaguar conceded it simply wasn't good enough. It was extensively re-engineered but kept the same body panels and re-emerged in 2002 as the X202 with new suspension, new steering rack, significant revisions to the engines (such that whilst at Wikipedia level they're still AJ25s, AJ30s and AJ-V8s, they're not even close to interchangable) and new gearboxes. The X202 uses all the same suspension castings and bushes as the X350 XJ, X150 XK and of course the XF is mechanically a straight carry-over of the X202 floor pan, suspension* and power trains given a new body and interior. Thus, the D2C Mustang isn't derived from the S-Type, because the S-Type in this video had already gone off some distances from the DEW common ancestor. You'll have to drive the Mustang @JayEmm on Cars to compare the two different developments of the DEW. *One thing about Jaguar is that they rarely keep spring and damper rates standardised. Every engine/body/trim spec combination has spring and damper sets specially chosen for them, so there are numerous parts number for S-Types depending on which engine and trim spec you have, and XFs got new ones again. Even the X-Type has different spring and damper sets depending on saloon or estate body, sport or comfort trim, and FWD or AWD powertrain.
I have a XJ40 from 1993 and it’s lovely although it's not a daily driver. The main reason is that I can tell people that I drive a Jaaaag hehe There's a video from another youtuber that sums up what I like in Jaguars: “They are beautiful without being ostentatious, they are a display of wealth but without being vulgar, they are fast without being menacing…”
I found myself chuckling at the fact you were able to talk your dad out of buying a car as a kid. My dad would have fully schooled me on the benefits of his planned purchase; the affordable performance of his 86 Cavalier SRi, the grandeur of his 84 728i, the classic status his 74 Victor VX 4/90 in 1985 or the quirkiness of his Saab 99. Some, an 11 yo me agreed with, others I certainly didn’t 😀
I've had my Stype 2.7D for a few months now, I only brought it becuase i had a tight budget (Less than £2k) and needed a decent motorway car. I absolutely love it! I got the diesel as it will spend most of it time on the motorway, coming from an A6 C6 3.0tdi the Jag is so much better on fuel! Its definitely got under my skin and I'm already planning my next Jag!
@@Giuseppe80271 No unfortunately the crankshaft snapped going down the M5! apparently it's a problem with 2.7, no way of telling, dispite good maintenance it can still happen. I was tempted to keep her and change the engine but I just didn't have the knowledge or space! I covered over 7,000miles in my ownership and loved every mile, no regrets!
@@Giuseppe80271 I've got one, 2007 diesel, automatic, now 168.000 miles, owned since 66.000 miles, serviced it every 9.000 miles, synthetic oil only, gearbox oil changed twice, only non service problems I've had, fuel gauge stopped working, air-conditioning compressor failed, front electric windows, play up occasionally. That's it, averaged MPG 43.5 in my ownership, and mines not got a spot of rust anywhere, had it soaked in wax oiled when i bought it.
Fair review. I had a 3 litre manual for 14 years with few problems and covered 100k miles it her including a drive to North Cyprus and back. Couldn’t find a good replacement so bought an STR which I now treasure.
I get let out of junctions pretty much all the time in my S Type. ... I guess because there are hardly any left, and other motorists like seeing a retro looking car ? ... Thanks Mr M for another great unbiased review.
My 2004 3-liter S at 220.000 km has just received new discs and pads and apart from a small oil leak from the engine has not given me any problems what so ever. It is also satifying to hear people ask: "Is it a new car?" Granted they are not familiar with the brand but still. One of the best cars I ever owned...Volvos, SAABs, Alfa-Romeos, MGs, Peugeots, Cadillacs, Chevys, Dodges etc included.. Just a great car. Next car will be an XF before Jaguar goes electric and thus becomes as undesirable as any other. The S stays in the barn though as it will be a future classic.
I had an S-Type and my wife still does. We love them, and so do other drivers. The deference he describes isn't true of all Jags (especially XJ's). I've driven them as loaners from my mechanic and people don't care about it. The S-type is a beautiful car. I was driving on the freeway in California, and a woman pulled up alongside and yelled out that is a BEAUTIFUL car. And it is. It is self evident, and people love to just look at it driving by.
Back in 2019 when I was 18 I got my first jag 2003 s type 4.2 N/a v8. I just recently bought another jag 1998 xj8 vdp (the car is older then me). Great pretty cheap luxury cars not comparable to the German “luxury” cars. Older jags have the style and class that newer cars just lack.
S-Type is probably the best deals right now out of any cars, good size, not too expensive, can still find a low mileage, good taken care of. Loved my STR.
Im 19 and brought an s type as my second car best thing i ever did supprisingly cheap to run pennies to buy so much fun to drive and as a bonus looks amazing IMO
Fair review, I believe these are massively underrated cars. Best in final facelift form, so 54-plate onwards and I think the 3.0v6 is a nice balance for the car. I've owned and dailied nearly all of the rivals in this class with similar engines - e39s & e60s, GS300, GS450h, Mercedes w211 and while the S-type is not a class leader across all aspects, it definitely is a competitor. Brilliant for wafting around in, and in the current market - an absolute steal.
Grear review and your comments from 14:25 on the attitude of other drivers are so true! I has a 2.7d S-Type in Jaguar Racing Green. Beautiful car. I only sold it because I got a company car. Later, when I started up as an independent consultant, I ploughed my money into the start up business. I bought an early 3 litre S Type for less than a grand. Great car for long business trips! Nowadays I have the XF and it's brilliant.
Got my first Jag almost a year ago, and from the experience I've had from driving, to the great experiences we had when dealing with the dealership and service center, the wifey and I will always have a Cat Car in our life. 2018 XE 2.0 diesel. The fuel economy is beyond expectation, and I was shocked when I switched to sport mode and paddle shift. I didn't expect that kind of power from a 4cyl. Took a road trip and was extremely comfortable during 5 days on the road. From Florida to Nebraska, got caught in the last December snowstorm and found that I wasn't cutting a doughnut in a snow covered parking lot with the traction control on. As I tested "Kitty" before hitting the highway to start the trip back to FL, I was really impressed by how quick the system was to regain traction with the slightest slip. No matter how hard I tried, I couldn't get the rear end to slide more than about 5" before it regained traction. We traveled over 150 miles on the snow covered highway from 60 to around 75mph with no issues, and hitting the Tennessee Smoky Mountains early Sunday morning was a blast as there was little traffic. Pulled into a rest area before the downhill side of the mountains and ran into a couple of youtuber kids with a Camaro and a Subaru. We stuck with them until the valley and had reached low triple digit speeds and the Jag took the curves and switchbacks like it was on rails. That was an awesome trip! Only issues I had on the trip I caused myself. We are from Florida. Temps got down to 14 degrees F in Nebraska. I had to purge the lines for the windshield washer system with a fluid for cold temps. I didn't purge enough of the Florida washer fluid out, so the lines froze and I had to pull off often to wash the windshield. So far, the XE has been a great, fun and affordable daily driver.
I looked at a 2.7D but ultimately ended up with a Saab and don't particularly regret it. I think as nice as these are the rust bunny will sting you eventually. That being said I'm still upset that my stepdad sold his 2001 XKR to WBAC for £1700 without consulting me because I would have happily given him £1701.
The 2005-2014 Mustang was going to use the Jag's DEW98 platform, but it was too expensive. However, since they'd already done part of the engineering, several parts carry over to the Mustang's D2C platform.
I've always loved the look of these. And they are still very much a common sight around town even in 2022. I've seen 3 today alone. And even now, these have aged magnificently imo. However, There is a XJ Vanden Plas south of my city and I am absolutely in love with it. I contemplate going down there to ask how much the guy wants for it.
I have an elderly neighbour who kept buying old Jags because he loves them so. Sadly, he is a pensioner with limited income, and they are so very needy. They each ended up being disposed of when they had hoovered every last penny from his bank account, even a much beloved XJ12. The latest one is an immaculate older S-class, and it too adorned the forecourt of our rural garage workshop rather more often than maybe it should. Rather than being used as a daily driver these days, it spends much of its time safely snoozing in a shed, being used more selectively. He has something cheap, reliable and rusty (and non-Jag) nowadays for his daily trips to the village shop.
I have this engine in an x350 xj6 and it's a good engine. Ford duratec V6 with Jaguar VVT heads. Not as much fun as a v8 of course, but that's mostly due to the sound. It goes well enough - definitely punching above it's weight for a 3 litre from nearly 20 years ago.
By 1999 the Italians had learnt the hard way about rust proofing and the cars from the 90s onwards were pretty good with galvanised body panels on many models and the deletion of seams and moisture traps under the cars, so don't play that old record again here and get it right for a change.
Yeah, Fiats of that era or later dont rust more than most other cars of similar vintage. Its the "premium" Italians that got problems for some reason. Also, to some peoples surprise, I have found French cars from 2000s and up to be among the best for rust, bar none.
Just reluctantly sold mine today. Got it at 17 and lasted me 8 years. Carnival red with the tan interior. Hopefully I’ll own another at some point when I have the space for extra vehicles
I owned an S-Type R and I truly miss it, it was a great car to drive. I'd love to own one as a second car again if I could afford to. You're absolutely right about people letting Jaguars out by the way, still happens. I can wait for ages in the Fiat but someone usually lets the Jag out.
I’m thinking of buying an SType! They are a little more expensive in the American used car market and I’ve NEVER had good luck with a Jaguar. But there is a V8 2005 model where I live with 80,000 miles for $6,000.
Excited to watch that video. Same with a Rover 75. Still classy and timeless design. A Android Unit instead of the OG radio and you are good to go. Luxury, cruise control, heated seats, leather, etc. What do you want more?
V6 3.0 6 speed , a late car with 295000km...nothing to complain about...still very close to new STR, Disc problems, repetedly But my first car lasted 300000km without gearbox nor engine problem ABS sensors did not like heavy rain and pressure cleaning, putting the car in limp mode for a few minutes And some parts were difficult to source in suspensions My second STR is now 200000km, has no other problems than..DISCS Conclusion, we should save as much of these as we can, some as excellent daily drivers, some as vollector s items Best regardd
We owned one (built in 2004) and loved it! Unfortunately it rusted like hell and was beyond repair (due to a corroded rear subframe which was nigh-impossible to replace in Germany, and rust on any other part of the body) after only 14 years and 180.000 km.
The S-Type/LS chassis was used on the S197 Mustang (2005-2014) and I actually owned a 2005 Mustang GT. The major difference was that the Mustang did not enjoy the independent rear suspension that the S-Type enjoyed. I also owned a 2003 S-Type Sport (5-speed manual) - which was a great car, but did succumb to rust. Great review Jay!
Had a 3.0 V6 a couple of years ago and I absolutely loved it! Drove a 2000 mile road trip with it and it was super comfortable. I did have to replace the side sills that rusted, but funnily enough everything else was in top shape. I added a D2 complete adjustable suspension to it and the ride became absolutely sublime!
Check the facelift V6 for the water feature under the scuttle plate. You have to stop the water filling the spark plug wells and rotting the coils. It's simple enough to make a shield from thin aluminium sheet. Sandwich it between the cross brace and scuttle plate. Got the X200 V8 4.0 which doesn't suffer the problem.
My first car at 23 was a Jaguar S-Type 2.7 D. The car looked great and drove well, but the ongoing stress over the DPF filter was too much and it just had to go. Every drive started with me praying I didn’t have an amber or even worse, red light appear.
I was very lucky, about 5 years ago, to purchase a 2005 3.0 S type which had just been re-imported from Japan, where it had led a cosseted salt-free life by one owner and was thus immaculate underneath. I was smitten, and instantly traded in my 2006 SE 3.0 which had higher mileage on the clock. The 05 had just over 18,000 miles on it in 13 years. It now has 37,000 and has been very reliable. I love the retro styling. Indeed it was part of Jaguar's marketing slogan (it's all just a little bit of history repeating). I always feel that, apart from the styling, this would have been Ford's next generation Granada/Scorpio (I had several of these before Jag seduced me). A great car. I'm an 81 y.o. Petrolhead.
A friend and classmate of mine had a Navy blue XJ6 when we graduated from high school and after the ceremony we went in the jag and drove to some club to celebrate. Gorgeous car, I liked its exterior styling better than even the new mercs of the time, but I had to sit in the middle of the rear seat, and it was SHEER TORTURE for a guy of 6 1" and average weight. Fast forward, my landlady in Washington DC when I was there in summer 2003 on a US NAvy Distinguished Faculty Fellowship from the Office of Naval Research, had an old 1987 British racing green XJ6 which she let me drive one Sat evening as we visited a friend of hers in Maryland. The car had a really tiny gear lever, is what I remember most. It was a rainstorm and we could hardly see in front of our noses. As for the tiny Jag based on the Ford Contour, the X or whatever, it was a BAD JOKE, as was the contour itself. NO THANKS, Ford.
Wow. I can safely say, if that had been my dad, the response I would've gotten would probably have sounded a bit like this: "Son, when you can afford to buy your own car, feel free to not buy an XKR." He would've then bought an XKR.
You have to remember the rover 75 suspension was designed by bmw. Looks the same suspension arms as 3 series or mini. Bring FWD you can throw them around. Bushes don’t last long though (being bmw)
I agree I did try to get a v8 but unfortunately at the time of purchase the v8s I was looking at were too far away and this poped up just 10 minutes away and its actually plenty enough for the daily duties
The vast majority of Jags were 6's. And as meaty as a good V8 sounds, all of the best, smoothest and most sonorous cars I've ever owned have been 6-cylinder. The 12 is good too.
@@Thanos.m I don't disagree. Maybe if one pops up near you, you could get that instead. Granted fuel economy is pretty crap with the V8 on country roads. I get about 21.7-22.7. On the motorway I can get as much as 32mpg though out of the supercahrged V8 which is fantastic on long trips to Scotland.
@@Punisher9419 that's the plan or perhaps go for an XF SV8 although having test driven an XFS I seem to prefer the S-Type. To be honest with you fuel economy of the V6 isn't much different I get about 17-23 in town depending on the traffic and 35 on a long run.
@@Thanos.m I have a light foot so that helps. If I push the car it drinks like a fish though. To be honest though I think the car to get is the XJ X358 with the 4.2 supercharged engine. It's the very last classic Jaguar shape they ever did but with an aluminium body so it won't rust the same as all of their other cars. XF is OK but it doesn't really look like what a Jaguar should look like to me. They command a passive premium over any other Jaguar from that time period though.
I had one of these as a courtesy car from my local Jag independent mechanic recently. 3.0 petrol V6 Auto. Nice. It has a lot of the old-world Jag charm and feel, which links back to the feel of the old XJs, particularly in the steering - which isn't particularly self-centering - and the gearbox, which isn't exactly in a hurry. It's a quiet, comfortable, relaxing car. Dynamically it's not good. It feels like a horse & cart compared to an XF, but it doesn't pretend at dynamism - it's very clearly a fatman cruiser. The windscreen is physically further away from the driver than any car I've ever known - and I say that having had E-Class, 5-series and a Jag XF. It's quite bizarre. If you stuck your satnav/phone to it, you'd need a telescope to see it and a pokey-stick to control it. The biggest problem for me was all the bits of Ford in the cabin and on your keyring. They look and feel decidedly below par in this setting. There's no ignoring it. How anyone ever tolerated this in an XK or a DB7 I do not know. I'll stick with my XF, which will (touch wood) go on for a good while yet.
The X type, the S type, and the XF and the XJ for that matter are all great cars and I had all of them throughout the years. However my 2008 XJ was my favorite, second being the XF just because the 5.0 V8 was bad ass but the 3 L engine in the X type and the S type were very reliable. Mine was a manual so it didn’t have some of the bugs that the automatics head, but besides a leaking coolant tank which I got an Amazon for $30 since it is a Ford Part it was a problem free…
I would prefer an XFR, but I really do like the retro look of the S-Type. If you ever come over to Vancouver Island I dare you to try out my Cadillac XTS VSport. A very underrated car if I do say.
People kept complaining about Ford's involvment back then. To me, it was a blessing, meaning that my X-Type would actually be reliable the lion's share of the time!
If you want one snap one up now while they're still cheap. Every other Jag has gone through a period of being unloved and then emerges as a classic and I think the S Type is no different. It's getting a lot more attention in videos like this one recently and prices are starting to creep up. I love the cars. I'm on my 3rd.
Thank you for another great review - really enjoy the thoughtful perspective on classics. I love my 2005 stype here in Canada where it’s viewed as beautiful and quintessentially British. The negatives of a Ford link now long forgotten.
That ford ownership made this car one of the most reliable car on road. Have this and bmw and bmw is cheap shit crap vs style. Owning both 12 years. Quality is incomparable. Majority think it's the opposite. No. This Jaguar is tank with rubber O ring that failed where on BMW failed everything
I always liked these - despite what Clarkson says (I used to encounter JC on my commute, I was in my Williams Mégane Coupe, which he loathed, if we clocked each other we'd just laugh from behind our respective windscreens) - and yet I love the later XJ6's too, true they're not as svelte as their predecessors but still awesome. As someone who now needs a cost effective auto, with cruise (with my disabilities) who wants rid of the devaluation monster etc, my heart says "XJ 6" my head says "S Type". I love Range Rovers but I feel that a Jag is less hassle, and I've looked at X Types, the "Estate" with 4WD is very good, BUT when I've looked at them, even with FSH, mint interior? Rotten as a pear underneath. I've not the time nor health to deal with such. But I did like the Ford parts availability - even to the point of retro fitting folding mirrors to an X Type. Dad and I have always denied ourselves a Jaguar saloon - time is running out on many fronts to own one though. The last saloons? I like them, but they ain't an XJ or an S Type, I've always thought them special. My late oldest uncle, a black sheep, a cad, 90% of the time had a new Jag, grudging admiration, he had a couple of Rollers, but that didn't float my boat, as much as I respected them, the Jag seemed to garner more respect, more love from onlookers than the Roller. So the S Type seems to fit the bill (I'm on a budget but have a newer car to sell, that's currently riding high in price), but ooh, an XJ 6, my heart really aches for that. What to do - sell a newer, reliable car, that's getting harder to drive and buy a risky Jag as my last hurrah?🤔🤔🤔 Or is my heart ruling my head for both the XJ and the S Type? An easy lazy auto V6, the practical choice vs a very good, fun, but less comfortable, more hands on Japanese pocket rocket that's bomb proof reliable and cheap on parts and devaluation has kinda reversed (for now)🤔
Talking about the attitude of other road users, yes I have a beautiful XJ8 x350, in North Queensland Oz there isn't a lot of courtesy on the road but! I have never driven a car that just attracts it! even here!, for some reason even Truckies treat it with respect! On a recent trip to Brisbane, I just loved driving around the "big smoke"!, I only needed to flik the indicator to change lanes and I would immediately most of the time be let in! Amazing! I just don't find that in any other vehicle! What is it???
It's been 4 years since I sold my 3.0 Sport S-type after 7 years of ownership.A really good car (no problems at all), but not the way like my favourite e39 530i M-pack, which I think is great in every way.
I have a 2004 S-type, VDP, British Racing Green with champagne that I am keeping low miles, garaged and in perfect condition. It is not a car (like my BMW) that see coming and going frequently. I plan to keep it for a very long time especially now since it has 8 cylinders.
Excellent video. Love the S-Type, I've had three of them and none gave any troubles. Prices are on the up as you say in your video. If you think the window switches in the S-Type are bad have a look at the XE. They're really awful!
Gotta say, after seeing AM DBS Aston's with Hillman Hunter tail lights, Zephyr MkIV Executive light housings, Chrysler indicator stalks, I seriously think the New S type got the best Deal on Wheels with its parts bin. And the chassis base was a real thing of excellence, wasted on the clientele that bought Mustang S197s, Lincoln LS and the last T bird. Ford Australia wanted the S type base for its cars, but each Hairy Arsed Cobber from Aussie that asked Jac Nasser's team when was it gonna be ready.....got defrocked and sent back from Dearborn with no job. Jag made everything good with this frumpy, cute intermediate. It's a great bit of kit. And someone inside the Bowles of Fraud, um, Ford, gave it the best V6's and V8's. Goog Work JayEmm. Five 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟's
I put about 100k on a 2005 3.0 litre Sport. It was a lovely car. I utterly reject any idea that the 5-series had a better interior - my S-Type didn't have plastic backs to the front seats! The S-Type had nice smooth engines and the same ZF 6 speed automatic as the BMWs were using. The S-Type though had a beautiful blend of ride quality (yes, even in Sport guise) and handling balance. That shouldn't be surprising knowing that the XF was the same car rebodied. Indeed the X202 (post 2002) S-Type shares much of its suspension with the X350 XJ, the X150 XK and XKR as well as, of course, the XF. The S-Type Sports seats are very, very comfortable. Mine was very reliable over a long period too. :) Note however that the 1999-2001 X200 S-Type with the urinal shaped dashboard was mechanically a very different car and doesn't drive anywhere near as good as the X202 does. As for rust - I'd rather deal with the simple sills on this than the very creative rust you find on a 5-series or, god forbid, the rust-o-matic E-class. My 3.0 used to manage a genuine 36mpg on long distance runs, but high 20s was normal for my old rural-urban mix commute (with no motorways).
I had a 2005 manual 2.7 which was a nice place to be, not great on fuel but again 1.7 tons! Rust and DPF brought my ownership to an end. The six speed manual was excellent never drove the auto. I agree with this cars owner that the 75 is better in most areas but not all.
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I have one and im 24, and i absolutely love it
Had to grow up and sell you but you will always be loved buddy 😭
@@serverthanos rip jag
I loved my S-Type 3.0 V6, could do 100s of miles in it feeling refreshed and with uprated bushes was sporty enough when the road got twisty. I did always hanker for a XJ though. Still, a bargain these days
I had a couple of S-type V8's before having an XJ (x358) diesel. I expected the XJ to be more comfortable but at lower speeds I found the suspension to be a bit harsh, by comparison to the S-type. The handling of the XJ however was really rather extraordinary, partially due to it's lighter, stiffer chassis and partially to it's very precise steering.
S-types are still good buys even in todays car climate. I can hope online and fine some low mileage(For their age) and clean examples for not a lot of money. I would like to have a go at one within the next few years.
I had the V6, 20 years ago and I loved it! Still one of my favorite cars I ever had. I always felt it was really underrated.
Mine was a 4.2 v8 and I loved it, so comfortable, luxury, and stupid fast. I also straight piped it!!! Sounded amazing
@@quinnferguson912, I had the S-type 'R' and it had the the supercharged 4.2 liter V-8, just a pinch under 400 HP out of the box, could it light those tires up, loved it and a real attention getter at the grocery store.
A few years back I bought a rather battered V8 S-type from an 85year old who was giving up driving for a whopping £200😁
It had only 45k on the clock, the interior was immaculate, & it drove beautifully, the body on the other hand was very neglected, plenty of evidence of the old guy''s parking skills!
A good weekends work made it look 90 % better, a bit of bumper repairs later, she looked stunning. I still regret selling it, but love the XKR that replaced it.
I loved my S type v6 petrol. In 10 years of ownership I had no major issues. Only regular maintenance costs. There was only a little bit of rust on the wheel arches but nothing major. It was easily repairable. I personally don't know why the s type is getting all those bad reviews from automotive journalists. From 2003 onwards the S type is a very, very good car. Design wise, the S type is also quite nice and different looking which in my book is a plus.
I'm 34 and have a 10 year old son who's obsessed with me getting a jag ... I'm now looking for one after seeing this Jay 🤣 I think you've just convinced me! My little lucas will rejoice, thank you.
I see your son Is rather cultured Haha! Try one I think you won't regret it. On a sidenote when I was 10 I kept begging my dad to get jag as well but an E-type 🤣
@@Thanos.m quick question! I haven't driven an auto before and we've found a BEAUT in blue in Bexhill next to us in Hastings with low miles (72k on a 09 plate) would it be better to look for a manual? Also thanks so much for the reply It means a lot.
@@Thanos.m also before this I was looking at getting an 05/06 civic type R 🤣 things have taken quite a turn!
@@jonnywalker3208 in all honesty if you are going for a Jag I would not go for manual I just got a brand new one as courtesy car and it's a manual one of the worst manuals I've driven. The 6 speed auto is super smooth but responsive enough
@@jonnywalker3208 I had a 2.7D for a number of years. It was a great car. I now have a XF S 3.0D (X260) which I’m enjoying as well. Go for the Auto you won’t regret it.
I had S Types for about twelve years. The first was a low mileage 4 litre V8 whose previous owner was a chauffeur driven chairman of a large multinational company based in London and as anticipated it had all the bells and whistles fitted. Unfortunately I wrote it off.
The replacement was a two year old STR with 14,000 miles on the clock which I ran for seven / eight years and traded in after having racked up 168,000 miles. The STR was an amazing car and when in sport mode it felt like starship enterprise entering warp drive when you floored the accelerator as it literally hurled itself down the road. Averaged 22 mpg in mixed city / motorway use but could achieve 32 mpg on a motorway run using cruise control. Never had a corrosion issue with mine but it was a daily drive covering high mileages I guess it was getting a proper airing.
Str?
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I'm lucky enough to own a 3.0l V6 S Type Sport with a manual box and active suspension and I love it. It's much stiffer and sportier than I expected. Practical, so comfortable and never fails to bring a smile to my face.
Kind Sir, could you please share a couple things with me? How frequent the issues are with that car, and what was the price range you bought it?
@@staLkerhu Hey I think im qualified to answer in this case. I have bought and now owned a year 2000 Jaguar s-type 3.0 Manual since november last year. The car still runs ive put about 3000km on it. I bought it for 5500 euros at 89000km. I dont think you will get such a good deal anymore, yet I can tell you a few problems. The engine has a slight misfire between 1500rpm and 1900rpm during acceleration, or during idle when the clutch is engaded and ive driven it for over a hour. I have a airbag light warning everytime after it rained which after its dried up will go away and sporadically appear every 2 weeks or so. So overall for a 23 year old car it still runs great and all those issues will be checked on next month at a dealership. Also the fastest I went was 230kph (I could have gone top speed) so no loss in power. Hope this helps!
I too owned an S Type 3.0 ltr Sport manual on a 51 plate, and absolutely loved it. Great to drive and was surprisingly quick
My first car was a 2001 S-Type V8 with the 4.0 liter engine. Sold it 3 years later only to buy it back from the same guy 4 years after that. Never selling it again I love the car!
Im 18 and I have a 2002 S-Type 3.0 manual and I love it, bought it from my mom for under a grand and want to keep it for as long as possible, its mint, no rust , garage kept
Gotta love that car mate. I'm 24, got the same combo [2004].
It's hands-down one of the easiest cars I have ever seen to fix yourself, really no reason at all to get shafted by "premium" repair bills.
@Jack Bradford I _think_ Mexico got a manual option but I'm pretty sure the US did not.
@Jack Bradford It's great.
JayEmm....people love Jags. I owned a really rare Long Wheelbase series 1 XJ6 in Regency red with natural leather hides (bone colour) . I lived in Bloomsbury Ave, Pymble , Sydney. Australia each morning I needed to make a right hand turn out of Bloomsbury Ave onto Pacific Highway (the absolute main northern road in Sydney) . I owned it 32 years & it's maintenance was paid by my employer, It always looked like it was NEW , not only did people like it , when fellow road users saw it wanting to turn right onto this primary road they stopped/crawled AND WAVED ME OUT, frequently that said same courteous driver would move to my left , tip the horn and in the stop start traffic or at a set of street stop/go lights say how lovely it looked. After 32years I sold it after I bought a 1967 jag mk10 or 420G (british leylands renaming of the 4.2 litre mk10). The Mk10 was even more like new with a mere 52,000mls & just one owner from 1967 thru to 2010. I get the same respect from other road users in the XJ6's big brother mk10.
I'm 21 and ive been driving mine since my 18s and i love it too
The s type was beautiful still is and it’s one they should bring back. I still turn my head when I see that car
Once you got one you will never forget it and you’ll always have a strong desire to getting one again . I can confirm it cause that’s what i feeling too.
Of all the cars I've had over the years including 3 S-Types, 3ltr pet, 2.5 pet and 2.7 diesel. I have to say that if I could have any one of them back in top notch condition, it would be the 2.7 diesel. 56 plate. It was so comfortable, quiet and relaxing to drive over short, or better still, long journeys. It was superb.
I've had a 2.7d for the last 4 years & couldn't agree more. I've had zero breakdowns & had to deal with 1 spot of rust on a wheel arch.
When I bought this car, I chose it over an S class Mercedes & I have zero regrets
Totally agree
There's one with 45k miles looks immaculate online. Only 3.7k
I inherited my late Mother’s 2001 S-Type 4.0 V8 in 2010…in nearly mint condition and with barely 23K on the clock…what a blessing!
Great Spec in Sapphire Blue over Ivory…loved it for the next six summers…never Wintered, even by Mom!
I sold it to her old best friend (a Jag lover!) at a jaggedly depreciated price ($55K US when new!) …but Mom’s stylish old Jag is living her best life today in retirement in posh Naples, Florida!
Mom’s old friend cherishes that gorgeous S-Type to this day..! Hope she enjoys it for many more years…that car was posh, sexy and surprisingly brisk..!
I just turned 18 and Ive been driving an s type 2.5 for almost a year now I love it to its every bit the wood interior is just perfect yes its slow but I love it I dont think of selling it
Regarding the Mustang (D2C platform) link to the S-Type, they're more like cousins than direct descendants. There's a bit of an evolutionary fork there to be aware of. The 1999 Jaguar S-Type given model name X200 was based on the Ford DEW and had a lot in common with the Lincoln LS and Thunderbird. It went down like a lead balloon here in the UK though and Jaguar conceded it simply wasn't good enough. It was extensively re-engineered but kept the same body panels and re-emerged in 2002 as the X202 with new suspension, new steering rack, significant revisions to the engines (such that whilst at Wikipedia level they're still AJ25s, AJ30s and AJ-V8s, they're not even close to interchangable) and new gearboxes. The X202 uses all the same suspension castings and bushes as the X350 XJ, X150 XK and of course the XF is mechanically a straight carry-over of the X202 floor pan, suspension* and power trains given a new body and interior. Thus, the D2C Mustang isn't derived from the S-Type, because the S-Type in this video had already gone off some distances from the DEW common ancestor. You'll have to drive the Mustang @JayEmm on Cars to compare the two different developments of the DEW. *One thing about Jaguar is that they rarely keep spring and damper rates standardised. Every engine/body/trim spec combination has spring and damper sets specially chosen for them, so there are numerous parts number for S-Types depending on which engine and trim spec you have, and XFs got new ones again. Even the X-Type has different spring and damper sets depending on saloon or estate body, sport or comfort trim, and FWD or AWD powertrain.
Great info! Thanks for sharing
I have a XJ40 from 1993 and it’s lovely although it's not a daily driver. The main reason is that I can tell people that I drive a Jaaaag hehe There's a video from another youtuber that sums up what I like in Jaguars: “They are beautiful without being ostentatious, they are a display of wealth but without being vulgar, they are fast without being menacing…”
I found myself chuckling at the fact you were able to talk your dad out of buying a car as a kid. My dad would have fully schooled me on the benefits of his planned purchase; the affordable performance of his 86 Cavalier SRi, the grandeur of his 84 728i, the classic status his 74 Victor VX 4/90 in 1985 or the quirkiness of his Saab 99. Some, an 11 yo me agreed with, others I certainly didn’t 😀
I think Arthur Daley made my mind up over who drove jaguars in minder,
If your a child of the 70's I bet you 👍
I've had my Stype 2.7D for a few months now, I only brought it becuase i had a tight budget (Less than £2k) and needed a decent motorway car. I absolutely love it! I got the diesel as it will spend most of it time on the motorway, coming from an A6 C6 3.0tdi the Jag is so much better on fuel! Its definitely got under my skin and I'm already planning my next Jag!
Do you still have the car? How is it going?
@@Giuseppe80271 No unfortunately the crankshaft snapped going down the M5! apparently it's a problem with 2.7, no way of telling, dispite good maintenance it can still happen. I was tempted to keep her and change the engine but I just didn't have the knowledge or space! I covered over 7,000miles in my ownership and loved every mile, no regrets!
@@Giuseppe80271 I've got one, 2007 diesel, automatic, now 168.000 miles, owned since 66.000 miles, serviced it every 9.000 miles, synthetic oil only, gearbox oil changed twice, only non service problems I've had, fuel gauge stopped working, air-conditioning compressor failed, front electric windows, play up occasionally. That's it, averaged MPG 43.5 in my ownership, and mines not got a spot of rust anywhere, had it soaked in wax oiled when i bought it.
@@richyclubsport5155 Woow that's amazing! Thanks for sharing
Fair review. I had a 3 litre manual for 14 years with few problems and covered 100k miles it her including a drive to North Cyprus and back. Couldn’t find a good replacement so bought an STR which I now treasure.
I get let out of junctions pretty much all the time in my S Type. ... I guess because there are hardly any left, and other motorists like seeing a retro looking car ? ... Thanks Mr M for another great unbiased review.
Just bought 20/06/2022
2007 S type v6 petrol . Fantastic
Never forget the S type diesel was the infamous Jeremy clarkson sub 10 minute nurburgring challenge car. This makes it a legend in my book.
I'll admit I'm guilty of following the comments from people slamming this car on reliability.
Definitely would have loved to have one of these.
My 2004 3-liter S at 220.000 km has just received new discs and pads and apart from a small oil leak from the engine has not given me any problems what so ever. It is also satifying to hear people ask: "Is it a new car?" Granted they are not familiar with the brand but still. One of the best cars I ever owned...Volvos, SAABs, Alfa-Romeos, MGs, Peugeots, Cadillacs, Chevys, Dodges etc included..
Just a great car. Next car will be an XF before Jaguar goes electric and thus becomes as undesirable as any other.
The S stays in the barn though as it will be a future classic.
I had an S-Type and my wife still does. We love them, and so do other drivers. The deference he describes isn't true of all Jags (especially XJ's). I've driven them as loaners from my mechanic and people don't care about it. The S-type is a beautiful car. I was driving on the freeway in California, and a woman pulled up alongside and yelled out that is a BEAUTIFUL car. And it is. It is self evident, and people love to just look at it driving by.
Back in 2019 when I was 18 I got my first jag 2003 s type 4.2 N/a v8. I just recently bought another jag 1998 xj8 vdp (the car is older then me). Great pretty cheap luxury cars not comparable to the German “luxury” cars. Older jags have the style and class that newer cars just lack.
S-Type is probably the best deals right now out of any cars, good size, not too expensive, can still find a low mileage, good taken care of. Loved my STR.
Im 19 and brought an s type as my second car best thing i ever did supprisingly cheap to run pennies to buy so much fun to drive and as a bonus looks amazing IMO
This is BRILLIANT. The world is going about turn. This chap has bought a stately Jag at 23.
At 46 I have just bought an EP3 Type R. 😆
Fair review, I believe these are massively underrated cars. Best in final facelift form, so 54-plate onwards and I think the 3.0v6 is a nice balance for the car. I've owned and dailied nearly all of the rivals in this class with similar engines - e39s & e60s, GS300, GS450h, Mercedes w211 and while the S-type is not a class leader across all aspects, it definitely is a competitor. Brilliant for wafting around in, and in the current market - an absolute steal.
Facelift was 2001/2. Had a 52 plate Sport!
@@smorris12 that was the first facelift. As I said, final facelift was from 54-plate onwards.
@@commited84 I sit corrected! In my mind that came a lot later, just for the last year or so of production.
Grear review and your comments from 14:25 on the attitude of other drivers are so true!
I has a 2.7d S-Type in Jaguar Racing Green. Beautiful car. I only sold it because I got a company car.
Later, when I started up as an independent consultant, I ploughed my money into the start up business. I bought an early 3 litre S Type for less than a grand. Great car for long business trips!
Nowadays I have the XF and it's brilliant.
Got my first Jag almost a year ago, and from the experience I've had from driving, to the great experiences we had when dealing with the dealership and service center, the wifey and I will always have a Cat Car in our life. 2018 XE 2.0 diesel. The fuel economy is beyond expectation, and I was shocked when I switched to sport mode and paddle shift. I didn't expect that kind of power from a 4cyl. Took a road trip and was extremely comfortable during 5 days on the road. From Florida to Nebraska, got caught in the last December snowstorm and found that I wasn't cutting a doughnut in a snow covered parking lot with the traction control on. As I tested "Kitty" before hitting the highway to start the trip back to FL, I was really impressed by how quick the system was to regain traction with the slightest slip. No matter how hard I tried, I couldn't get the rear end to slide more than about 5" before it regained traction. We traveled over 150 miles on the snow covered highway from 60 to around 75mph with no issues, and hitting the Tennessee Smoky Mountains early Sunday morning was a blast as there was little traffic. Pulled into a rest area before the downhill side of the mountains and ran into a couple of youtuber kids with a Camaro and a Subaru. We stuck with them until the valley and had reached low triple digit speeds and the Jag took the curves and switchbacks like it was on rails. That was an awesome trip! Only issues I had on the trip I caused myself. We are from Florida. Temps got down to 14 degrees F in Nebraska. I had to purge the lines for the windshield washer system with a fluid for cold temps. I didn't purge enough of the Florida washer fluid out, so the lines froze and I had to pull off often to wash the windshield.
So far, the XE has been a great, fun and affordable daily driver.
I looked at a 2.7D but ultimately ended up with a Saab and don't particularly regret it. I think as nice as these are the rust bunny will sting you eventually. That being said I'm still upset that my stepdad sold his 2001 XKR to WBAC for £1700 without consulting me because I would have happily given him £1701.
The 2005-2014 Mustang was going to use the Jag's DEW98 platform, but it was too expensive. However, since they'd already done part of the engineering, several parts carry over to the Mustang's D2C platform.
It is the platform used by the Lincoln LS1 & the Thunderbird
Super happy that I kept my s-type in my fleet.
Really like these for some reason when I was younger. I called it the MidSommers Murder car because I always saw it on the show.
I've always loved the look of these. And they are still very much a common sight around town even in 2022. I've seen 3 today alone. And even now, these have aged magnificently imo. However, There is a XJ Vanden Plas south of my city and I am absolutely in love with it. I contemplate going down there to ask how much the guy wants for it.
I’m 23, bought mine on Friday. Wonderful thing to drive.
I have an elderly neighbour who kept buying old Jags because he loves them so. Sadly, he is a pensioner with limited income, and they are so very needy. They each ended up being disposed of when they had hoovered every last penny from his bank account, even a much beloved XJ12. The latest one is an immaculate older S-class, and it too adorned the forecourt of our rural garage workshop rather more often than maybe it should. Rather than being used as a daily driver these days, it spends much of its time safely snoozing in a shed, being used more selectively. He has something cheap, reliable and rusty (and non-Jag) nowadays for his daily trips to the village shop.
I sold my blue S-Type 3.0 V6 Sport a few days ago and miss it. Replaced it with the 2010 XJ Portfolio but wish I could have kept both.
I was just considering buying a 2005 V8 S-Type in dark blue, and then this video comes along.
I loved mine too - but unfortunately head gasket failure claimed it on just under 90k miles. One of the best wafty barges I've ever had.
I had a s type manual. Used it for drifting and as a daily. Was a great car.
I have this engine in an x350 xj6 and it's a good engine. Ford duratec V6 with Jaguar VVT heads. Not as much fun as a v8 of course, but that's mostly due to the sound. It goes well enough - definitely punching above it's weight for a 3 litre from nearly 20 years ago.
E39 528 outpaced it in all acceleration tests with a mere 193bhp. Good old what car magazine group test with my favourite exec the A6 2.8 quattro.
Always love the styling of the S-Type
By 1999 the Italians had learnt the hard way about rust proofing and the cars from the 90s onwards were pretty good with galvanised body panels on many models and the deletion of seams and moisture traps under the cars, so don't play that old record again here and get it right for a change.
Yeah, Fiats of that era or later dont rust more than most other cars of similar vintage. Its the "premium" Italians that got problems for some reason. Also, to some peoples surprise, I have found French cars from 2000s and up to be among the best for rust, bar none.
Just reluctantly sold mine today. Got it at 17 and lasted me 8 years. Carnival red with the tan interior. Hopefully I’ll own another at some point when I have the space for extra vehicles
I had a new S type 2.7 d sport. Fantastic drive, totally reliable, from the driver seat you could not see the styling. I was over 1000 miles a week.
I owned an S-Type R and I truly miss it, it was a great car to drive. I'd love to own one as a second car again if I could afford to. You're absolutely right about people letting Jaguars out by the way, still happens. I can wait for ages in the Fiat but someone usually lets the Jag out.
Have actually seen a Ford Thunderbird in Hereford whilst cruising past in my S-Type, gave eachother a knowing nod.
Drop-dead gorgeous in person!
I’m thinking of buying an SType! They are a little more expensive in the American used car market and I’ve NEVER had good luck with a Jaguar. But there is a V8 2005 model where I live with 80,000 miles for $6,000.
I just picked up an 2007 S-Type from the original owner with 29,000 miles in this exact same color combination.
Excited to watch that video. Same with a Rover 75. Still classy and timeless design. A Android Unit instead of the OG radio and you are good to go. Luxury, cruise control, heated seats, leather, etc. What do you want more?
I'm 18 and I'm bouta star working for one this car so filthy 😩
V6 3.0 6 speed , a late car with 295000km...nothing to complain about...still very close to new
STR, Disc problems, repetedly
But my first car lasted 300000km without gearbox nor engine problem
ABS sensors did not like heavy rain and pressure cleaning, putting the car in limp mode for a few minutes
And some parts were difficult to source in suspensions
My second STR is now 200000km, has no other problems than..DISCS
Conclusion, we should save as much of these as we can, some as excellent daily drivers, some as vollector s items
Best regardd
What kind of discs dear sir? Clutch or brake?
So Im 19 y.o, and i have 1999 4.0 V8 S-Type it has zero rust and im so happy with it.
I have 2.5 sport plus. Absolutely beautiful car. Have had 5 in my time. Definitely the most beautiful jaguar back in the day.
Had my 2000 V6 Manual for 15 years. Still gets through MOTs with no advisories. It’s my winter car and has never let me down. Love it to bits!
We owned one (built in 2004) and loved it!
Unfortunately it rusted like hell and was beyond repair (due to a corroded rear subframe which was nigh-impossible to replace in Germany, and rust on any other part of the body) after only 14 years and 180.000 km.
The S-Type/LS chassis was used on the S197 Mustang (2005-2014) and I actually owned a 2005 Mustang GT. The major difference was that the Mustang did not enjoy the independent rear suspension that the S-Type enjoyed. I also owned a 2003 S-Type Sport (5-speed manual) - which was a great car, but did succumb to rust. Great review Jay!
I'm 21 and my dream car is the Rover P5
You are a man of culture!
Had a 3.0 V6 a couple of years ago and I absolutely loved it! Drove a 2000 mile road trip with it and it was super comfortable. I did have to replace the side sills that rusted, but funnily enough everything else was in top shape. I added a D2 complete adjustable suspension to it and the ride became absolutely sublime!
Check the facelift V6 for the water feature under the scuttle plate.
You have to stop the water filling the spark plug wells and rotting the coils.
It's simple enough to make a shield from thin aluminium sheet.
Sandwich it between the cross brace and scuttle plate.
Got the X200 V8 4.0 which doesn't suffer the problem.
I do want a Jaaaaag of the era, but I'd personally rather have an XJ, I can't resist it's aristocratic charm. Also those are aluminium.
Yeah especially a XJ12 ..........nice.
I Love my XJ
My first car at 23 was a Jaguar S-Type 2.7 D. The car looked great and drove well, but the ongoing stress over the DPF filter was too much and it just had to go. Every drive started with me praying I didn’t have an amber or even worse, red light appear.
We have a 2005 S type. It's one of the best cars I have owned, in 45 years of diving.
Still miss my S-Type, a 3.0 V6 Manual that I sold for spares as an MOT failure and the guy bought it for the engine to go in a Mazda MX-5
Do all Brits pronounce "Jag" with such emphasis and powerful inflection? I thought that was a Top Gear running joke! 😂
Of course we do!
22 and currently looking at buying one of these. Going to go see it sometime next week. Very tempted ngl
I was very lucky, about 5 years ago, to purchase a 2005 3.0 S type which had just been re-imported from Japan, where it had led a cosseted salt-free life by one owner and was thus immaculate underneath. I was smitten, and instantly traded in my 2006 SE 3.0 which had higher mileage on the clock.
The 05 had just over 18,000 miles on it in 13 years. It now has 37,000 and has been very reliable. I love the retro styling. Indeed it was part of Jaguar's marketing slogan (it's all just a little bit of history repeating). I always feel that, apart from the styling, this would have been Ford's next generation Granada/Scorpio (I had several of these before Jag seduced me). A great car. I'm an 81 y.o. Petrolhead.
I have one rusting on my drive. I can't justify spending money on it right now but I can't bring myself to get rid of it either..
A friend and classmate of mine had a Navy blue XJ6 when we graduated from high school and after the ceremony we went in the jag and drove to some club to celebrate. Gorgeous car, I liked its exterior styling better than even the new mercs of the time, but I had to sit in the middle of the rear seat, and it was SHEER TORTURE for a guy of 6 1" and average weight. Fast forward, my landlady in Washington DC when I was there in summer 2003 on a US NAvy Distinguished Faculty Fellowship from the Office of Naval Research, had an old 1987 British racing green XJ6 which she let me drive one Sat evening as we visited a friend of hers in Maryland. The car had a really tiny gear lever, is what I remember most. It was a rainstorm and we could hardly see in front of our noses. As for the tiny Jag based on the Ford Contour, the X or whatever, it was a BAD JOKE, as was the contour itself. NO THANKS, Ford.
Just bought a XJL 3,0 V6. Crazy over 60 mpg. Epic value.
Wow. I can safely say, if that had been my dad, the response I would've gotten would probably have sounded a bit like this:
"Son, when you can afford to buy your own car, feel free to not buy an XKR."
He would've then bought an XKR.
It is a pleasure listening to you. Clear enunciation and perfect pronunciation. Of course the content is top class too.
Thankyou, very kind
You have to remember the rover 75 suspension was designed by bmw. Looks the same suspension arms as 3 series or mini. Bring FWD you can throw them around. Bushes don’t last long though (being bmw)
Thanks J, always good to see a Jag in your videos!
I like the S-Type, I would get the V8 though. It's more of the correct engine to have in a Jaguar.
I agree I did try to get a v8 but unfortunately at the time of purchase the v8s I was looking at were too far away and this poped up just 10 minutes away and its actually plenty enough for the daily duties
The vast majority of Jags were 6's. And as meaty as a good V8 sounds, all of the best, smoothest and most sonorous cars I've ever owned have been 6-cylinder. The 12 is good too.
@@Thanos.m I don't disagree. Maybe if one pops up near you, you could get that instead. Granted fuel economy is pretty crap with the V8 on country roads. I get about 21.7-22.7. On the motorway I can get as much as 32mpg though out of the supercahrged V8 which is fantastic on long trips to Scotland.
@@Punisher9419 that's the plan or perhaps go for an XF SV8 although having test driven an XFS I seem to prefer the S-Type. To be honest with you fuel economy of the V6 isn't much different I get about 17-23 in town depending on the traffic and 35 on a long run.
@@Thanos.m I have a light foot so that helps. If I push the car it drinks like a fish though. To be honest though I think the car to get is the XJ X358 with the 4.2 supercharged engine. It's the very last classic Jaguar shape they ever did but with an aluminium body so it won't rust the same as all of their other cars. XF is OK but it doesn't really look like what a Jaguar should look like to me. They command a passive premium over any other Jaguar from that time period though.
Had 2, the 2.5, and after a mistaken dalliance with a Volvo v70, the 2.7D. Loved them both, miss the 2.5 more. Always a sense of occasion.
I had one of these as a courtesy car from my local Jag independent mechanic recently. 3.0 petrol V6 Auto. Nice.
It has a lot of the old-world Jag charm and feel, which links back to the feel of the old XJs, particularly in the steering - which isn't particularly self-centering - and the gearbox, which isn't exactly in a hurry.
It's a quiet, comfortable, relaxing car.
Dynamically it's not good. It feels like a horse & cart compared to an XF, but it doesn't pretend at dynamism - it's very clearly a fatman cruiser.
The windscreen is physically further away from the driver than any car I've ever known - and I say that having had E-Class, 5-series and a Jag XF. It's quite bizarre. If you stuck your satnav/phone to it, you'd need a telescope to see it and a pokey-stick to control it.
The biggest problem for me was all the bits of Ford in the cabin and on your keyring. They look and feel decidedly below par in this setting. There's no ignoring it. How anyone ever tolerated this in an XK or a DB7 I do not know.
I'll stick with my XF, which will (touch wood) go on for a good while yet.
The X type, the S type, and the XF and the XJ for that matter are all great cars and I had all of them throughout the years. However my 2008 XJ was my favorite, second being the XF just because the 5.0 V8 was bad ass but the 3 L engine in the X type and the S type were very reliable. Mine was a manual so it didn’t have some of the bugs that the automatics head, but besides a leaking coolant tank which I got an Amazon for $30 since it is a Ford Part it was a problem free…
I'm glad I'm not the only one who struggles with how long ago things were 🤣
I would prefer an XFR, but I really do like the retro look of the S-Type.
If you ever come over to Vancouver Island I dare you to try out my Cadillac XTS VSport. A very underrated car if I do say.
People kept complaining about Ford's involvment back then. To me, it was a blessing, meaning that my X-Type would actually be reliable the lion's share of the time!
I had a 2.5 2002 petrol manual, and it was fantastic ,, so comfortable ,, bit heavy on fuel but I would still have it if someone hadn''t run into me
If you want one snap one up now while they're still cheap. Every other Jag has gone through a period of being unloved and then emerges as a classic and I think the S Type is no different. It's getting a lot more attention in videos like this one recently and prices are starting to creep up. I love the cars. I'm on my 3rd.
Thank you for another great review - really enjoy the thoughtful perspective on classics. I love my 2005 stype here in Canada where it’s viewed as beautiful and quintessentially British. The negatives of a Ford link now long forgotten.
That ford ownership made this car one of the most reliable car on road. Have this and bmw and bmw is cheap shit crap vs style. Owning both 12 years. Quality is incomparable. Majority think it's the opposite. No. This Jaguar is tank with rubber O ring that failed where on BMW failed everything
I always liked these - despite what Clarkson says (I used to encounter JC on my commute, I was in my Williams Mégane Coupe, which he loathed, if we clocked each other we'd just laugh from behind our respective windscreens) - and yet I love the later XJ6's too, true they're not as svelte as their predecessors but still awesome.
As someone who now needs a cost effective auto, with cruise (with my disabilities) who wants rid of the devaluation monster etc, my heart says "XJ 6" my head says "S Type". I love Range Rovers but I feel that a Jag is less hassle, and I've looked at X Types, the "Estate" with 4WD is very good, BUT when I've looked at them, even with FSH, mint interior? Rotten as a pear underneath. I've not the time nor health to deal with such. But I did like the Ford parts availability - even to the point of retro fitting folding mirrors to an X Type.
Dad and I have always denied ourselves a Jaguar saloon - time is running out on many fronts to own one though. The last saloons? I like them, but they ain't an XJ or an S Type, I've always thought them special. My late oldest uncle, a black sheep, a cad, 90% of the time had a new Jag, grudging admiration, he had a couple of Rollers, but that didn't float my boat, as much as I respected them, the Jag seemed to garner more respect, more love from onlookers than the Roller.
So the S Type seems to fit the bill (I'm on a budget but have a newer car to sell, that's currently riding high in price), but ooh, an XJ 6, my heart really aches for that.
What to do - sell a newer, reliable car, that's getting harder to drive and buy a risky Jag as my last hurrah?🤔🤔🤔
Or is my heart ruling my head for both the XJ and the S Type? An easy lazy auto V6, the practical choice vs a very good, fun, but less comfortable, more hands on Japanese pocket rocket that's bomb proof reliable and cheap on parts and devaluation has kinda reversed (for now)🤔
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Talking about the attitude of other road users, yes I have a beautiful XJ8 x350, in North Queensland Oz there isn't a lot of courtesy on the road but! I have never driven a car that just attracts it! even here!, for some reason even Truckies treat it with respect! On a recent trip to Brisbane, I just loved driving around the "big smoke"!, I only needed to flik the indicator to change lanes and I would immediately most of the time be let in! Amazing! I just don't find that in any other vehicle! What is it???
I love my S type 2.7 sport so much ive owned it twice its very reliable and is currently on 235k
Yes i can confirm that people will still make way for you in traffic if you are driving a Jaaag. Its a stark contrast to driving my old bmw.
It's been 4 years since I sold my 3.0 Sport S-type after 7 years of ownership.A really good car (no problems at all), but not the way like my favourite e39 530i M-pack, which I think is great in every way.
I had an S type R (v8) it was the best all-round cars I've owned, and I've had a few!
I have a 2004 S-type, VDP, British Racing Green with champagne that I am keeping low miles, garaged and in perfect condition. It is not a car (like my BMW) that see coming and going frequently. I plan to keep it for a very long time especially now since it has 8 cylinders.
Excellent video. Love the S-Type, I've had three of them and none gave any troubles. Prices are on the up as you say in your video. If you think the window switches in the S-Type are bad have a look at the XE. They're really awful!
Gotta say, after seeing AM DBS Aston's with Hillman Hunter tail lights, Zephyr MkIV Executive light housings, Chrysler indicator stalks, I seriously think the New S type got the best Deal on Wheels with its parts bin. And the chassis base was a real thing of excellence, wasted on the clientele that bought Mustang S197s, Lincoln LS and the last T bird. Ford Australia wanted the S type base for its cars, but each Hairy Arsed Cobber from Aussie that asked Jac Nasser's team when was it gonna be ready.....got defrocked and sent back from Dearborn with no job. Jag made everything good with this frumpy, cute intermediate. It's a great bit of kit. And someone inside the Bowles of Fraud, um, Ford, gave it the best V6's and V8's. Goog Work JayEmm. Five 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟's
I put about 100k on a 2005 3.0 litre Sport. It was a lovely car. I utterly reject any idea that the 5-series had a better interior - my S-Type didn't have plastic backs to the front seats! The S-Type had nice smooth engines and the same ZF 6 speed automatic as the BMWs were using. The S-Type though had a beautiful blend of ride quality (yes, even in Sport guise) and handling balance. That shouldn't be surprising knowing that the XF was the same car rebodied. Indeed the X202 (post 2002) S-Type shares much of its suspension with the X350 XJ, the X150 XK and XKR as well as, of course, the XF. The S-Type Sports seats are very, very comfortable. Mine was very reliable over a long period too. :) Note however that the 1999-2001 X200 S-Type with the urinal shaped dashboard was mechanically a very different car and doesn't drive anywhere near as good as the X202 does. As for rust - I'd rather deal with the simple sills on this than the very creative rust you find on a 5-series or, god forbid, the rust-o-matic E-class. My 3.0 used to manage a genuine 36mpg on long distance runs, but high 20s was normal for my old rural-urban mix commute (with no motorways).
I like my XF , but S type is still a great car , much better than same year BMW or MB
Sorry, no. An E39 5-series is a miles better car in every single way than an S.
I had a 2005 manual 2.7 which was a nice place to be, not great on fuel but again 1.7 tons! Rust and DPF brought my ownership to an end. The six speed manual was excellent never drove the auto. I agree with this cars owner that the 75 is better in most areas but not all.