Johnny vs. Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening
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In today's episode, it's the entry of the series that folks like to mention a lot. I hope that's a good sign, the last one was kinda weird and empty, like Calorie Mates. Let's look at Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening.
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Vergil had to grow up as a lonely orphan after their family died, with only power to live on.
So yeah super sad/mad about his mom dying lol
Fun fact In Devil May Cry 5 Vergil was made a playable character again by the special edition and dlc similar to this game the difference is in that game is they actually took time to make an actual move list with him and gave him some real combos in this game they just took his boss data and mapped it to some buttons
Please read the dmc3 Manga.
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Hey Johnny just curious did you turn on turbo mode when playing because you didn't bring it up surprisingly
You actually got it spot on with Vergil's reasoning. There's nothing in specific he wants to protect, but the trauma of losing his mom and blaming himself has caused him to crave power so nothing like it will happen again.
Dante even says it, “What’re you gonna do with all that power?”
Even when he gets that power, it's not enough. Vergil would just continue trying to be more powerful with no actual end goal.
@kollie79Another part I love about that exchange is that by that point of the game, Dante has grown up, becoming fully matured and at that moment, he was truly fighting for a noble cause.
Vergil meanwhile had not grown at all and had no worthy cause or goal, just seeking to take power for power's sake.
In dmc they do try to show the reason of Vergil I want power to rule over everything which doesn’t really work with the vergil from the main series. I had a similar thought about vergil that you brought up about his trauma.
But if he has nothing to protect... What is he actually trying to stop from happening again? Your reasoning just sounds like you're trying to justify something that's not adequately explained in the plot.
11:09 Actually one of the cool things about Arkham and Jester is that he's playing both the brothers to his own ends. Arkham with Vergil is an even more extreme version of him, stone-faced and only concerned with the goal. Jester with Dante is an even more extreme version of him, untouchable and seemingly unwilling to take anything seriously. It further plays into the duality theme throughout the game, showing there's really no difference between Dante and Vergil. They've both assumed masks to process their trauma. Vergil isn't able to drop his at the end and it dooms him, but Dante is able to drop his just a little and he "wakes up to justice" like his father before him and becomes the protector of humanity. Dante's Awakening, in other words.
Arkham is somewhat underrated as an antagonist. He's no Vergil obviously, but I'd still take him over Mundus or the villian from DMC2 that I already forgot the name of. in fact, I might even prefer him over DMC4's, but we'll get to it next game.
Arkham was definitely a better antagonist than Arius. Arkham was at least proactive throughout 3, playing everybody in the tower to his tune. Arius felt like he didn't do shit until the tail end of the game.
This was beautifully written. I never stopped to think of Arkham personas as an extreme reflection of both brothers.
And Dante "dropping" his mask is what makes him a Devil that May Cry. That's simply beautiful.
@@leithaziz2716 Hell the villain of DMC2 always looked like a Tekken fan character than a DMC villain.
This is actually a very cool analysis, I’ve played dmc3 countless times now but I’ve never realized that, touché
It always warms my heart to see the Super Gaming Brothers together.
I wish he could get Matt to feature in the marathon cuz I know he was ready to LP DMC3 but I understand that everyone usually have busy lives
@@lll_Number_One I really wish they skipped 2 and jumped to 3. They were gonna do DmC but we got MK11 instead which I loved
@appalledlohgs let's hope Lewis from BSC decides to skip DMC2.
Man I miss them so much. But yeah I understand that everyone's got their own stuff to do
I don't want to take a line from Kamen rider, not if this video minds but "I'm surrounded by idiots, but that's terrific"
I’m really disappointed they didn’t bring back the “surfing on enemies” mechanic in any other game, it’s so satisfying.
I mean, Nero can ride his arm if that makes you feel any better.
@@meathir4921riding his robot arm is absolutely not the same.
It's a huge shame considering Nero does it in one of 4's cutscenes by revving Red Queen. You'd think they'd include that as a game mechanic, but nooooo, that would be too cool.
They also never brought back Dante´s pole dancing and wall running. I´ll let you decide which is a bigger crime.
I'd like to think Dante surfing on his enemies was part of his youthfulness. As he got older, his way of fighting matured. He still plays with his enemies but he's more mature about it.
Vergil's motivation for more power stems from the trauma of nearly being mauled to death by demons. His mother died looking for him and he believed she abandoned him. He never wants to experience that again. It is mostly expanded upon in supplemental material. There's a manga tie-in for DMC V that explains a lot.
Not to mention that Dante, in this game, calls out Vergil on this: "What are you going to do with all that power?" It's not missing motivation, it's a part of Vergil's character that he hasn't given much thought to acquiring power beyond "I'll finally be able to feel safe because nobody will be capable of doing bad things to me". Even though he doesn't have anything he wants to protect other than himself, he looks down on Dante trying to protect other things because Dante doesn't have the same drive to emulate their father, who Vergil sees as the embodiment of power.
His original motivation was that he felt weak because he failed to save his mom. Stark contrast to Dante who also loved his mom but was just trying to survive until later on in life. They retconed Vergil's to just not feeling loved lmao
Right, I think the series' writing is much stronger than what the surface, early 2000s edge, might suggest. At the start of the game, Vergil and Dante have the same image of their father: Sparda, the all mighty warrior. Their reactions are the exact opposite though. Vergil seeks power to not feel weak like that one night that he will never forget, and so he idolizes his father as a symbol of power. Dante, hates him for the same reason, he saw how the demons destroyed his home and killed his mother and grew up hating that aspect of his heritage. Demons aren't worthy of respect or compassion, therefore he denies his demonic heritage.
What changed was Dante's perspective on his father and demonkind. He learned about the lengths he went through to seal the two worlds apart from each other in order to protect the humanity. They may have been weak but he still chose to help them, he cared about them. Dante realizes that this challenges his notion on what it means to be human or demon. Rather that the only real monsters are those who cannot empathize with others and maliciously use others for their gain, what kind of being they are is meaningless. This changes his image of his father to Sparda, the compassionate hero, and gives him an ideological reason to stop Vergil rather than a weak, childish dislike of his brother.
And then his character arc ties into the arc phrase of the series: "Devils never cry".
Gosh, so much Visions of V should've been in the main story. I get that it would've pulled down the pacing a ton, but that last chapter closes the Dante and Vergil relationship with such a nice bow, it pains me 99% of people playing the game will never see it.
SPOILERS FOR BOTH THE GAME AND THE MANGA
But MAN that final conclusion is both cathartic and a reward for following their story so far, and that's before the actual final boss fight in the game. Vergil finally realizes that it was never about power, it was never about Sparda, it wasn't even him getting skewered in front of his house and taking years to find out if anyone survived. He was just so scared for years he never learned anything but to fight back, and every time he sees Dante having surpassed the trauma, he just wants to show he can be just as good but doesn't know how to communicate anymore if it doesn't involve fighting.
@@matiasrivas1692 Oh yeah, I can understand that feeling of realising something is more well-thought out than some people might give credit for.
20:50 What's cool is that Lady's rocket launcher is named after her mother, Kalina Ann, which is one of the best weapons to deal with those demon slugs. It straight one-shots them. So in a way, Lady's mother played a big role and contributed towards the defeat of Arkham. Pretty poetic.
I attributed that to Lady rather than her mother
@@thedead073 It's both I guess.
Vergil’s Yamato has a special ability that whenever it sheathes, it builds up a charge of Devil Trigger. That’s why the katana feels slower
WAIT! WHAT?! Played this game religiously for YEARS and never knew that!
@@pyromaniacforhire Yup, let him finish his ENTIRE attack animation including the sheathing and you got 1 DT charge immediately.
@@zhaoyun255 Love it! Thank you both! Also, LOVE your name~ :3
@@pyromaniacforhire that also is carried over to every game in the series with him in it
@@deemoney2089 Daaaamnnnnn.....I'm just blind, then.....
I remember when I 1st heard Vergil’s voice as a teen and thought “Holy sh**! It’s the Quantum Ranger!”
I was Super happy with that and hoped they would continue having Dan voice him in every DMC he appeared in going forward.
IKR? Glad I'm not the only one who recognised the VA from Power Rangers.
Then you get johnny young bosch (Adam MMPR Black, Zeo/1st Turbo Green) in 4, and David De Latour (RJ, Jungle Fury Wolf Ranger) in the reboot
Doesn't the Quantum Ranger in Battle for the Grid harp about needing more (quantum) power too? Daniel's roles are like an ourobouros feeding into each other.
@@CyberDragon10K Yes, he makes a lot of Vergil memes in that game. "I NEED MORE QUANTUM POWER!" is the most obvious one.
That’s actually how Reuben and Dan knew each other: Through Power Rangers, same goes for Johnny Yon Bosch who would voice Nero and even Zero in MVC.
The thing about losing a brother and a mother to the demons "20 years ago" refers to the attack on Dante's family home, when he and Vergil were just kids. His mother died and his brother was "lost" in a more psychological way, let's say
Yea. Like, this is technically a retcon, but it works for the angsty flavour they were going for.
I thought that Dante did believe that Vergil died, and only reappeared years later, only for Dante to realize that he was an asshole now.
@@SuperfieldCrUn yeah but by the time DMC1 and the “20 years” line happened, Dante already fought Vergil multiple times and knew he went into the underworld
@@brancolt_ It *is* technically a retcon, since in the DMC1 prequel light novel, Vergil appeared in a form that is heavily hinted to already be under Mundus's control, and that novel takes place while Dante is still using the name Tony Redgrave.
That's a retcon. Sick headcanon tho. DMC fans are pretty good at excusing poor writing when it suits em.
One interesting thing I find about the duality between Dante and Vergil is how they responded to their trauma and their heritage. Vergil blames his own lack of power, and so became obsessed with it. He curses his human side for being weak, to the point of rarely using guns, as those are the weapons of humanity, or weaklings. One thing to notice is that, within the series, I don't think a single demon uses guns.
On the flipside, Dante (reasonably) blamed the loss of his mother on demons. He hates demons, starting a business just to hunt them down. And at the start of the game, while he doesn't make it obvious, he's not fond of the fact he's half demon. There's a reason he hasn't awakened Devil Trigger at the start of the game, while Vergil already has his.
And this plays into their power dynamic over the course of the game. In their first fight, Vergil wins. Dante favors his human side over his demon side, while Vergil does the opposite, and so Vergil has more power. But, over the course of the game, Dante becomes more comfortable with his demonic side, more accepting of it. And then when the two face off again, there's no clear winner.
At the end, Dante fully embraces both sides of himself, accepting that his demon blood does give him great power, but also understanding his humanity isn't a weakness, but a strength. Vergil refuses to accept his humanity as anything but a weakness, however, and he ultimately loses because of that.
If I recall correctly, in DMC1, some of the puppet enemies carry shotguns.
@@KingCasual1986Correct, some demons do.
Vergil wins in his own way, by coming home to the demon world. It is their father's home after all.
I AM Vergil by the way, hello there. Not intending to rule the world with my power, don't worry about it.
Hideaki Itsuno has to have the single biggest redemption story out of any Capcom employee going from an action game where you can skim through most of the action, to a game that comes with a free sample of arthritis for your hands with how many combo possibilities there are.
He saved the franchise twice!! Lol
I wouldn't call it a redemption story for Itsuno himself, seeing as he wasn't DMC2's original director and was only brought in late in development to whip the project into shape. That kind of thing happens more often than you'd think in game development and most people both in the industry and the audience know better than to hold it against the creative dude who drew the short straw. But the series itself? Major redemption arc, yeah.
The man brought Lady into the world. He's cool in my book.
In his defense he came onto DMC2 last minute
As a fun fact about Lady, she's kind of a remix of a character who was written for the second of the two Shin-Ya Goikeda light novels, the DMC2 novel: a woman named Beryl. Beryl had a demonic scar and a big old anti-tank rifle, and her father got turned into a demon trying to use an artifact to bring back her dead mother. The "Spiral" gun in this game is kind of like the gun she used.
That Reuben Langdon commercial was something I didn’t know I needed
While the story isn’t some RPG level narrative or anything, but I do think that it’s pretty strong, especially the relationship between Dante and Lady. That ending is one of my favorites in any game I’ve played. I dunno, there’s something so wholesome about it
I like that it had a couple themes throughout the whole game. Family and humanity.
It's easily the best in the Devil May Cry story.
I find it strong as well. It's about having a basic premise but a very solid execution in this scenario. Dante's growth in particular is really well done. He goes from rejecting any acknowledgment of his family to learning to embrace his heritage and take responsibillity.
The line "Gotta finish the mess father left behind" given before facing Arkham is a nice development from Dante's attitude during the start of the game with the line "Father? I don't have a father. I just don't like you is all" and does a good job of showing how much he's changed.
I think that’s something really cool about this game, too. The cast is made up of only 4 major roles (Dante, Vergil, Lady, Arkham), but they manage to fill out an awesome story.
Grateful for the praise to Agni and Rudra, as well as respect to the editor for showing the entire ending scene of their boss fight. I love those guys.
Ashame they couldn't talk
@@johnlawful2272 They do talk after certain moves, especially the ultimate attack in Swordmaster.
@RicochetForce After which Dante can be heard yelling, "Silence!" at them.
@@johnlawful2272_impressive_
@RicochetForce they also talk during the Twister and Tempest attacks, going the lines of "Ashes and ashes!" and "Dust to dust!"
Hideaki Itsuno is literally the GOAT at Capcom, he saved DMC3 and outdid himself with DMC5. Also he made Dragon's Dogma another great franchise in his long list of accomplishments at the company
Im so happy this man designed FF16s combat
And now Dragon's Dogma 2 is coming in the future. Hoo boy am I excited.
Oh so he just goated in all his work, nice
@@jinxact532 Itsuno is not the one working on FFXVI.
Ryota Susuki is the one working on FFXVI. Ryota being the Combat designer/director for the DMC games as well as Marvel vs Capcom 2 and Dragons Dogma.
You can really tell Itsuno went above and beyond with DMC3 to make sure he's not remembered as the guy who was given the job of finishing DMC2. He made one heck of a comeback from something that wasn't really his fault given the behind the scenes stuff.
This is my favorite Devil May Cry game, and the first one I ever played; A family friend gave it to us. Big props to the voice actors for Dante and Vergil: Reuben Langdon and Daniel Southworth respectively.
The special edition does technically have a third playable character (regarding unique moveset) in the form of Nelo Angelo from DMC1. You have to get Vergil´s corrupted costumes to gain access. If you don´t have time, I suggest using the unlock all cheat to get a quick spin with him. He´s pretty basic, but a welcome addition.
20:35 There is actually a hidden tech with Spiral that allows you to cancel the recoil animation instantly by using royal guard immediately after. Since it was your first playthrough, I wouldn't expect you to know about that.
Great hint. But you don´t need RG honestly. As you can also cancel the recoil simply by switching guns mid fire.
@@marts8861 Yeah it works on the Coyote and the Kalina Ann as well, makes them alot more powerful for general combat
Even after ten years of playing this game I _still_ haven't mastered that.
Though I imagine with freestyle it's probably easier due to how style swapping cancels the recoil too
My favourite part of Dmc 3 is when Lady said "Maybe somewhere out there even a Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening when he loses a loved one. Don't you think?"
For Gunslinger, basically it's meant not to outright basically be just Swordmaster but for guns in my personal play time, but I notice it functions significantly better as an extender between Style Combos
It makes the second Secret Mission in mission (I think) 14, the one where you’re on the tram or whatever and have to kill all enemies without them escaping, like 5 times more doable as well when you use it with the Spiral. It also makes the Artemis more fun to use. Actually I never really got the hang of Gunslinger completely until my most recent play through as Dante. That being said, it is still always the style I upgrade last since I’m more of a melee player.
I always love seeing the Super Gaming Bros. together. Not only is this my first DMC game, but I remember struggling in the same ways with it when I first beat it. This hit me with a full wave of nostalgia. A real treat to watch, man.
some royalguard advice: try jumping into parries, it buffers the parry input a little and helps alot with the timing
it comes back in future games and is as ludicrously powerful as it is in 3
a piece of advice is that: if it deals damage, you can parry it (there is literally one exception in 3 and its the acid floor on the ground in leviathan)
Yeah, the mainline Devil May Cry games are really good about never no-selling any of the options they give you, so Royal Guard Style can literally block any attack with good enough timing. It's pretty crazy what these games allow you to do if you have the skill to pull it off.
Royalguard has a very high skill ceiling but the pay-off of pulling off a Perfect Royal Release is so satisfying.
Admittedly, I suck at it but the few times I manage to pull it off are so satisfying.
I am so glad 5 made it so that if you have DT, Dante still blocks but it takes from your DT gauge which incentivizes Perfect Guarding (along with that satisfying shotgun sound effect on a Perfect Guard that activates the neurons).
Royalguard is so dang good.
It ain't exactly perfect, and in 4 that perk was kinda removed
College quiz with no time limit? Or SomeCallMeJohnny talking about my favorite game? (SWEATING BULLETS)
Edit: I ended up getting an 83, and considering how much I've been struggling in this class, I'm happy, but I don't condone what I did.
Do the quiz
@TheOneTrueBeard, no time limit!... Yeah, I'll do the quiz.
Education first! 😊
Your mom goes to college.
Great taste in games, friend.
Your initial analysis of Vergil simply not wanting to ever feel weak again IS his goal, it's a psychological condition brought on by trauma, he has no further goal than to make himself feel as secure as possible.
This is in fact an extremely common response to losing a parent suddenly, it's one if those things that seems cartoony but in reality is just EXACTLY how real life humans work.
The exact same thing applies to Dante, who goes through the opposite reaction to trauma, cutting himself off from genuine connections and putting on an act of exaggerated vibrato to hide how actually depressed he is from others, himself included.
Yea ntm Dante actually grows throughout the game and starts caring about people and his responsibilities while Vergil meets a tragic end (but hey he’s back in DMC5 and his relationship with Dante is getting better)
A new Johnny video is always appreciated, whether you’re having a good day or a bad one🙌🏼
The Devil May Cry marathon is something I always anticipate. One of my all-time favorite game series period. DMC3 was such a massive game changer in terms of the series itself and action games as a whole.
Also, the editor deserves a medal for the soccer key and blitzball bit lmao
I think the vagueness of what Vergil intends to do with Sparda's power is intentional, especially with how Dante asks that outright at the final fight and doesn't get an answer.
It's a pretty crazy winding road to know that Rueben Langdon worked on pretty much every side of the Power Rangers / Tokusatsu scene before joining Capcom, and he's the reason why Dan Southworth (Eric / Quantum Ranger from PR Time Force) and next game, The Bosch himself, auditioned for the roles they got. There's a couple of Power Rangers alumni sprinkled among games after this point, and I wish there were more, given the Saturday night anime action vibe DMC and RE were going for. It's a much better fate for those actors' skills, to have Capcom feel like PR All Stars, than what usually happens. I mean, dramas on CBS? REALLY?
Yet dante isn’t in tvc
Honestly this and Devil May Cry 5 are my favorites in the franchise.
3 and 5 are definitely the best games
One could argue 5 is 3's true sequel
4 is honestly my favorite in terms of character combos,
3 is my favorite in terms of bosses and narrative focus,
And in hindsight 5 is best for its excellent world design and surprisingly my favorite combat mechanics, V is a deceptively smart playstyle once you start playing son of sparda, holy shit
Tip for royal guard, when you jump you have invincibility frames, so if you hit royal guard during the upwards motion of your jump it’ll be a guaranteed block. Same thing applies for the royal release.
Yeah when I learned this many years later it made royal guard go from good to God-like in my eyes
7:08 Vergil obviously wants power to defeat Mundus, to follow in his father´s footsteps, as well as get revenge for the demon attack where his mother died and he was powerless to protect her. That is the reason why he stays in the underworld in the end. Giving it a shot even without Force Edge (since Dante seems to always take his stuff 😆)
In case you didn’t know Johnny. Vergil and Dante’s home was attacked by demons when they were 8 years old their mom was able to find and hide Dante and she was looking for Vergil calling out to him but was struck down by the demons, Vergil however was playing in a nearby park and demons found him and tortured him eventually he awakened his devil trigger and slaughtered the demons and he wondered why their mom never showed up to save him and it really traumatized him and at that point he believed power was everything and he wanted to have as much power as possible to prevent something like that from happening ever again
I’m currently recovering from jaw surgery so I needed this. Thanks Johnny!
today started out really rough but a new Johnny video always makes em better
Rough morning.... / Noon ??
Lol 👍👍👍
00:34 I know it's been months (maybe years at this point, oh my God) but it's still surreal seeing Johnny working on getting jacked. I mean that doesn't detract from my admiration of him keeping a workout regiment so faithfully but it's like I keep getting surprised every time I'm reminded of it.
To me, Gunslinger is something you switch to mid-combo to get a cool gun move off then switch back to something like Swordmaster. Which isn't really something you could do in the original version of DMC3, but it works well when you can switch styles on the fly.
One of the most powerful techniques in the game is canceling animations. Spiral is insanely powerful against bosses if you spam switching it with ebony and ivory. Royal guard allows you to cancel just about any animation, so you can build up a ton of damage by canceling the first attack of any attack string with a block.
Devil may cry 3 is my favorite one and that has not changed. Has a solid story and improves on the game play tremendously from 2 and it gave us lady, the best girl in the series. This is when the series reached its peak and it did a great job in reaching that peak. That being said I am surprised that Dante's voice actor was in a Japanese mentos commercial but what still surprises me is Dante does the Shoryuken in later games and afterwards, Reuben Landon by SF4 onwards became Ken Masters. That has to be a coincidence lol.
Ken also got a Dante costume in SF5
@@DJAB87 Yeah I heard from another comment in another video that stated that he has a Dante outfit in that game but none of my friends or at least the only friend that played street fighter 5 never really showed me it. He did show me if I recall Chun Li dressed as Morrigan and Juri dressed as Lilith.
@@MrDarksol If I remember right, Ed got a Nero costume, Laura got Gloria costume, Poison got Lady and Cody got Vergil.
@@DJAB87 Them I definitely remember because my friend was showing me those at rapid fire speed lol.
Fun Fact about this game, Kazuma Kaneko who is well known for doing the art for the SMT games up to Strange Journey did the designs for the Devil Trigger as a thank you from Atlus for letting them use Dante in SMT3. You can tell too. The Devil Trigger’s look like SMT demons. 😅
Shocked you didn't find trick for the trickster style. Probably the best mobility tool in the game to teleport up to enemies
This is probably my favorite video game. It was the perfect game to play as a Power Rangers-loving child, and it established the baseline for what I love to see in a video game.
I love this game so much, easily within my top ten favorite games of all time. I remember my mom walking in during the office scene and her just going, "0_0 what?"
Fun fact: there is a number of the mission hidden in the opening cutscene of said mission
(Best seen on the pizza box with the 1 on it)
It's such an unnecessary detail, but so cool
I'm so happy with the FFX reference, especially considering how that specific scene with Wakka is pretty much a meme here in Japan :')
Best final fantasy game imo. They just couldn’t top 10
Obvious masterpiece
BUT weird hat you thought the story was just okay, this is one of my favourite game stories ever - they pulled off a reaatchable mix of Berseek and Quentin Tarantino, and the plot twist actually caught me off guard in a good way.
One of the better animes out there.
“I hope royal guard comes back” god he’s gonna piss himself during 5
Some trivial trivia:
0)At the title screen you see the moon turn into a 0 before it's slashed by Dante's silhouette and becomes a 3, a likely indication before the game even starts that DMC3 can be considered "DMC0", i.e. a prequel.
Duality is one of the themes, but another would be the 7 deadly sins which tie DMC3 & its Tower with Dante's Divine Comedy & Mount Purgatory.
Obviously at the top of the tower Arkham names the bell statues by their names during the ritual to open the gate to hell and the skeleton enemies are named the Seven Hells (Hell Pride, Greed, Gluttony, Wrath, Lust, Envy & Sloth), however less obvious are the bosses/vices defeated as you traverse the tower to follow Vergil.
1)Pride: "You who are NOT WORTHY are forbidden from this land" - Cerberus. And when defeated Cerberus gladly accepts Dante's worth.
2)Greed: The Firestorm Chamber Agni & Rudra guard has a treasure trove of weapons. When defeated they beg to be taken.
3)Gluttony: However cavernous Leviathan's stomach was, it bit off more than it could chew. (Weirdly, it's usually associated with Envy in demonology)
4)Lust: "Your father was a handsome devil." - Nevan.
5)Wrath: "SPARDA!" - Beowulf, his blind fury literally leads to his demise.
6)Sloth: bit of a stretch, but the unseen passenger in the carriage that never gets out to fight you and the Geryon slowing you down and teleporting about like the Hell Sloth sort of counts.
7)Envy: Doppelganger (Vergil & Arkham share this vice too)
I'll always remember this game because of the Sp00d fandub I occasionally looked at. Having Vergil's minion spout Disney movie references was hilarious.
I am so glad I'm not the only one tha remembers that, I still remember vergil talking about eating turkey, him and dante arguing in the final battle 😂
Fun Facts:
Dante's Devi Trigger was designed by one of the artists who worked on the Shin Megami Tensei series, heck Dante himself makes an appearance in one of those games as a suprise guest.
Vergi's VA used to be a Power Ranger, that being the Quantum Ranger from Power Rangers Time Force and he wont be the only PR actor that appears in this series.
Dante cameos on SMT III, which I'm currently playing, you fight him once as a obligatory boss, once as an optional boss and then later he can join your party, assuming you beat him the second time.
Ruhben Langdon did a lot of stints for power rangers. So he has expierence in it to
So, one thing I like noting is that in DMC1, Vergil was supposedly kidnapped by a demonic cult, according to design documents by Kamiya. When Itsuno was making plans for 3, he asked Kamiya about making Vergil the antagonist of 3 and Kamiya's response was "That's cooler than what I had. Do that." And really I do think that attitude comes through with the rest of the series with Itsuno being the chief creative vision.
Also a small note on the characterization of Vergil, while he does seem like the antithesis to Dante at first he's a lot more like Dante than he cares to admit. The first thing he does when he gets Beowulf as a weapon is style on the guy's corpse, just like how Dante shows off every time he fgets a new toy. The big difference being what each brother thinks is cool. Dante emulates 80s action protags, while Vergil is Akira Kurosawa's biggest fanboy.
One of my favorite little details about DMC3 is how, in the cutscene before every mission, the mission number is hidden somewhere.
36:59 My name is in the credits of a Johnny Vs. video. Hell yeah.
I cannot wait for the DMCV review. Man that game is so damn good and introduced me to this amazing franchise.
I'm noticing a pattern with the 5th game of the series being the one a ton of people play to get introduced into the series (happened to DMC, Persona, Elder Scrolls, etc)
@@shadow64ddProbably because its a good game to start DMC with and being very beginner friendly
@@shadow64dd The 5th game is either the game where they fucking nailed it, or when the series starts to drag on.
@@MythicMachina I would say all 3 fit the former statement, but for Persona 5 and Skyrim it depends on how you end up playing it
(Especially PS3 Skyrim, that right there is a special kind of bad)
@@lll_Number_One as someone who also started with DMC V
Yeah I agree with this statement
Power, for its own sake. Probably born from frustration out of his weakness when his mother was killed. My guess.
DMC4 is going to be great. There is one notorious cutscene in it that I honestly would love to just see your reaction to. It has to be my favorite one in the series so I'm looking forward to you experiencing it for yourself.
Can you remind me of what that cutscene is without spoilers?
...Which cutscene I wonder? Because DMC4 has a great number of memorable moments.
I want to see his reaction to the Shakespearean scene in the church. 😆
First I whip it out! Then I thrust it with great force! It penetrates every angle! Until, with great strength, I ram it in!
Which one are you talking about because I remember DMC 4 has quite a lot of impressive scenes
@@valydendor4472 It most likely starts with L and ends with ucifer. "First I whip it out"
Hey John and Lewis. I am excited to see Johnny tackling the DMC series finally. Over all I really enjoyed the video but to offer an opinion I found the additional of full cutscenes from the game to be a bit overkill. It just seemed to spell out something that didn't seem to need context and sort of bring the video to a hault for one bullet point.
Again that I just one guys opinion. Some others might have liked the inclusion for context and didn't feel it interrupted the pace of the video so take my opinion for what it is worth.
Again great video as a whole and I am looking forward to the DMC4 video!
Gunslinger isn’t something I use much in dmc3 but with the style switching on switch I find Artemis very useful with it, it’s multi lock shots melt enemies well
12:52 Definitely distinctive. Whenever I hear Vergil talk I can’t unhear The Quantum Ranger from Power Rangers Time Force and it just throws me off every time. I’m not complaining I just find it funny.
Long comments about the questions you had for styles and weapons:
For Gunslinger, it's really just sword master but for guns. It really works well for combo extensions to keep your style up (stuff like rapid fire and charge shot count as different moves so your style meter increases instead of stales) and gives you more of a long range toolbox to work with (rainstorm comes in handy to hit certain deadzones while you're jumping while delaying your landing and Spiral can ricochet high power armor piercing shots between multiple enemies). Also it makes Artemis decent and kinda fun lol
Nevan is a little awkward due to not fully realizing when you can input the next move or see where dante is facing (It's the only weapon in the game that asks for left and right inputs as well as forward and back). It works really for crowd control however. While you can use it by itself and do quite well with it, I think it really shines with combinations of other weapons. A thing you probably haven't noticed you can do yet in your short time playing is that you can cancel the recovery animations of some weapons by switching weapons, style buttons, other moves, or jumping. Nevan feels more fluid when switching or jumping allowing you to do things like attack to stun an enemy, get nevan out set up a bunch of AOE or bats for the surroundings enemies, switch back to another to follow up and repeat.
Same for weapons like spiral or the shotgun. You can cancel the recovery of it by switching guns or style moves allowing for Cheesy unintentional strategies like "rapid firing" the shotgun or spiral by Royal guarding after every shot. (Speedrunners use this). Vergil also benefits from this as that slow Hayato he's got becomes way more fun when you do things like Cancel his launcher into Trick up so you don't have to jump and possibly miss your follow up or cancel any move with it into another weapon
Definitely not things a normal player would get on their first time (unless you're like me where every time I got a new weapon I IMMEDIATELY went back to the first mission to try it out and lab it for HOURS) but the fighting game-esque depth is what keeps people coming back to this series.
Nevan’s Air Raid absolutely shreds the Leviathan’s Heart health bar when you’re dodging its attack after it reveals itself. Fight still sucks though, as does that whole mission. I love Devil Trigger but that was a horrible way to introduce it!
With Devil May Cry 3, the amount of over-the-top spectacles only goes up from here on, as if they want everyone to forget about Devil May Cry 2.
I suppose one thing that could be argued with Dante's Devil Trigger not lasting as long in this game compared to the first two is that, he just got the power, so, he cannot sustain it for too long? Either way, I'm feeling motivated whenever I end up getting my hands on a copy of this game.
Don't worry too much about not jelling with Nevan or Gunslinger. Nevan shines after you put time to practice it because it's not an easy weapon to use. Gunslinger is killer with the Artemis. I personally feel like it was designed with Artemis in mind given all the cooky things you can pull off. As for Royal Guard just wait until you get to DMC 4 & DMC 5 where that baby gets some much needed refinement.
These reviews have convinced me that I need to finally sit down and finish these games.
Also woo got my name in the outro lol
Now Johnny is feeling motivated!
Vergil channeling that Unlimited Blade Works.
You know if John looks at Tears of the Kingdom after this marathon like he likely will then he will be playing an emotional few games!
Growing up watching SGB, it was nice seeing Elliot again.
27:26 Vergil when no one is looking
Seeing Johnny and Elliot play games on the couch together warms my heart
Fun fact: Dan southworth also used to play the quantum ranger on power rangers time force
7:07 it's not elaborared, but it's implied in the secret ending that the reason why Vergil wanted more power was in order to kill Mundus and avenge Eve (which he fails, hence Nelo Angelo).
Then this shit got retconned in DMC5 making it seem the reason why he was obsessed with power was in order to defeat/be more powerful than Dante (which is fucking stupid 🤦♂️).
I don't think that's necessarily the case. The sibling rivalry thing was definitely always there, but I don't think the idea that he wanted to defeat Mundus was completely thrown out. He's using the same logic he uses when he fights Dante as when he fights Nero: "If I beat Nero, then by default, I beat you." Dante defeated Mundus, therefore to him defeating Dante proves he could defeat Mundus, since Mundus is basically not really around for him to fight anymore (I think, anyway). It's probably why he's so quick to jump to that idea with Nero, he was already on that same line of logic.
The whole Arkham/Jester thing becomes more impressive when you realize the same actor played them both, including the mocap!
I find it amusing how the character with the most silly voice in the game ends up with the most commanding presence imaginable. Takes some damn good writing to make that happen, so kudos to the DMC crew for giving us such a recognizable baddie.
hooo boy. my most anticipated Johnny video of all time is here
I love these marathons, Johnny!
Keep up the great work!
So a little tip about guns going forward. Guns are mainly used for extending combos and keeping enemies at bay. Your Pistols can be used to stop an enemy to let you close the distance, or you can juggle them in the air to keep a combo going. Your shotgun can be used to knock close up enemies down and your nunchuck move with it hits all around you. There are exceptions to this like the rocket launcher and sniper which can do some pretty good damage, but generally guns are used to suppliment your melee weapons, which is where most of your damage is gonna come from.
I personally really like Arkham. The way he manipulates lady is genuinely disgusting and that triple kick he lands on Dante, lady, and Vergil is undebatably cool. Also the way he shouts "NO!" when he gets killed at the end always gives me chills.
First time playing the DMC HD trilogy I marathoned all 3 games.
Dang, the very first tutorial mission inside Dante's place in DMC3 was alone more satisfying than the whole DMC2! THIS is truly the game that defined the series and yes, it's worth going back to try different styles and perfect your combos. (I'm surprised you didn't mention the pause mechanic in combos which I believe was introduced in this game and became a staple)
I’ve been waiting years for this video. Combining my 2 favorite things. Johnny, and Devil May Cry 3.
Man, the references keep coming! JoJo, Prince of Persia, I don't know who is editing these videos, but kudos to them!
It's really insane how great this game truly is. I myself only started playing DMC around 2017 and it quickly became a top tier gaming franchise for me. This game is mostly responsible for that.
I think the best compliment a game can ever have is "I wish I had the time to play more of this game".
Jackpot! I can't wait to see this review! This game has been a favorite of my older cousins for many years!
DMC4 is quite a trip, but love that you’re really getting into the nitty gritty of it blind! 39:00
This review has more cutaways than an episode of Family Guy.
About the Spiral. It gets a bad rap because of its recoil, but if you hold down any direction you can actually fire it faster, AND if you're on gunslinger you can alternate between firing the normal shot and trick shot to make shooting 3x faster than normal
A little trivia, the spiral is based on the real life anti-tank rifle called the Lahti L-39 used in world war 2.
It might also have been included as a reference to Beryl, a character from the DMC2 light novel who used an anti-tank rifle, and who was kind of a prototype for Lady.
26:57 ''i'm really hoping this style comes back'' oh it does, and especially in dmc 5 it feels SO GOOD!
Yeah the biggest problem with DMC3's style system is that some of them NEED the Levels, with Gunslinger being the worst case. Shot Canceling also helps a ton with this however. At the very least, in the Switch release your no longer married to your style until you clear the stage or hit a shop, and you can swap between all the weapons and guns at once instead of two at a time each.
The best in the series. Period. I was waiting for Johnny to visit this one.
nerbit! in the patrons man so wholesome! seeing another of my favorite content makers supporting yet another of my favorites is so nice
Love to see my favorite youtuber ever talk about one of my all time favorite games of all time. Love you Papa Johnny ❤❤
22:35 Nevan uses Smash Bros Inputs once you pull the thing out. not only do you also have forward, back and neutral, but you also have left and right inputs when you lock on.
Btw the left right inputs depend on where Dante facing
This Johnny's getting crazy!
Let's rock! 🍕 🗡
Iconic as HELL.
My man, Johnny looking really good in the ad working out. I've been watching for years, and you look so different from when I started watching, and now
One of my favourite games of all time. As for Devil May Cry 4, well Johnny do you remember when you played Symphony of the Night? That should give you a good idea what to expect.
Omg... why did I just now realize that 💀 (maybe it's because I'd rather play SoTN than DMC 4 even if both commit the same sin, lol)
1st half good, 2nd half why.... at least symphony doesn't make you do a dice game boss rush gauntlet, that after facing nearly everything twice was the nail in the coffin for me.
@@logiclunacy606 Spot on. Like for real, Devil Cry 4's combat fantastic but the second half loses so much steam for me. That being said, someone probably should give Johnny a heads-up about the Devil Bringer mechanic because I know a lot of people who insist you are not getting the full experience if you're not using it.
I like DMC4 but I rarely ever replay it.
@AdamAnouer I actually prefer playing Dante to Nero because he has the devil arms but the backtrack to the start of the game with that amount of padding just makes the whole game not very interesting even with the gimmicks that sprout up in each area. It's also knowing that when you play as Dante there's practically no new fights, just the same ones used in the same arena to artificially increase value.
@@logiclunacy606 the only people who enjoy DMC 4 to the fullest are style players, lol
Fun fact: Daniel Southworth was the Quantum Ranger in Power Rangers Time Force.
To jump ahead to DMC 4, Johnny Yong Bosch, who was Adam in the Power Rangers series, was Nero.
Oh hell yeah! My all time favorite Devil May Cry game.
The “Devil May Cry” title drop in the final scene of the game elevated the entire game for me.
And it was already GOAT’d before.
*This partyys gettin' cCCRAAAZzy!*
*LET'S ROCK!*
Oh fun thing, sword pierce (the forward circle move) can interrupt Beowulf’s cage things he throws at you and hit them back into him for damage and they drop health for you. I think every boss has at least one little hidden detail like that. It’s a great roster.
Still my favorite game in the series ❤