Johnny vs. Sonic Superstars
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In today's episode, we're diving into the latest Sonic game, and it's Classic era! But is it good? I sure hope so, this thing is full price.
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How do you find artists to draw your title cards?
love how confident johnny looks on the new title card & interesting we may get a small saga of johnny getting tails doll for good after that tease.
had lowered expectations for superstars when i was indifferent to origins & was more hyped for wonder(considering it was mario being fun/the year of it having personality again especially giving peach/daisy love.:3) but may consider getting superstars after a huge price drop/patch to shorten the bosses jank as it looks pretty fun with the levels,fang returning(do hope the next game has him form the hooligans as he works better being with them.).
trip(she looks so adorable/wouldn't mind seeing her in modern along with mighty and ray as possible dlc from what tailstube implied.) and actually using the emeralds(with the direction frontiers is going that would be cool seeing the emeralds power used in the 3d games.) that i'm interested from this review like how most of your reviews introduced me to so many series john.(personally after superstars/if mania 2 is revived would really love to see the advance formula come back seeing the other characters like the chaotix,team dark,sticks,cream/gemerl,the babylon rogues,silver or blaze again in action alongside a advance collection/sonic pocket adventure with it.)
* laughs in Bluetooth headphones*
Thanks for the heads up about the boss fight BS, Johnny. 😊
Oh, head up, Johnny. You review Resident Evil 4 remake again, and they are adding the DLC for Separate Ways and have the Red9 in Separate Ways DLC going to cost 26,000 ptsa 14,000 ptsa for gun and ptsa 12,000 stock separately. Oh, you should sense the trailer for Resident Evil remake again this time. They update the camera feature having fix cameras angles or over the shoulder if you don't like the fix cameras angles.
Johnny reviewing a sonic game is like Christmas
Seriously
Personally I liked the boss fights, especially Fang, Metal Amy and Samurai Eggman, but I was also introduced into Sonic by Freedom Planet so I’m much more used to lengthy bosses in speedy platformers.
Or Halloween if it's a bad Sonic game
But it's november
Fr fr. Glad to know this man is still doing this even now and sgb is still my channel jam as well
Nack: “Why can’t I beat you?!”
Sonic: “Because… *_We’re Sonic Superstars.”_*
*Sad and pathetic trombones*
@@Mekboy_ComputerMonster I think the boss battles were made for Co-op, but Co-op In regular levels is questionable?
@@orangeslash1667It doesn’t matter if you’re playing in single or multiplayer, all boss fights take forever! The primary reason is because they have long periods where you *cannot* damage them. Whether it’s their obnoxiously long I-frames, or them flying out of reach (especially when going to the background), most bosses can take well over a minute to beat.
@@JJ_R If thats the case, then maybe the single multiplayer of the Mania is all you need??? Cause Co-op in a Sonic game so far is unnecessary.
@@orangeslash1667 If Main Game multiplayer allowed for split-screen (or proper online gameplay with each player having their own screen), this wouldn’t be an issue.
16:47
"Dear Johnny, I hope you didnt forget about me after all these years? Just because you moved out of your house doesnt mean I cant find out where you are. Be seeing you soon." -T.D.
He stole the damn creamer again! And I don’t even drink coffee!
18:32 Johnny's hatred for the Slicer is still as strong as ever.
Yeah Johnny having a PTSD from Slicers from every video games have and he hates Slicers.
*Man Head Explodes because of Slicers*
@@PrideEepy64Yeah same with MegaBeatMan he hates the Tails Doll.
When I saw the slicer in the game I knew he’d have to bring the gag back for the review
Ohhh, Slicers are the WORST Badnik.
Goddamn, seeing the Tails doll in a SomecallmeJohnny review again singlehandedly shook me out of a drowsy stupor.
Don’t use God’s name in vain please.
@@LKid246Cope
He was referring to Lord Tails Doll.
Thank.
"a drowsy stupor" 😂
@@LKid246oh shut up johnny says he gonna spoil the SHIT outta this game first minute of the review post-sponsor and you worried bout gods name in vain 😐
I like how at 7:56 when Johnny says "Damnn!" It sounds like he regressed back 20 years in both age and maturity and I loved it.
He basically pronounces it "DAYUM!" 🤣🤣🤣
That’s basically growing up And that’s what we got through
@@PrideEepy64I’m 24, and I don’t think I wanna go much further. Where’s the off-switch..??
@@ViltrumiteIsRite99 uuuuh uhhh sorry I-I UUUUUH
GUH HUH PICKLE FISH LIPS ……
@@ViltrumiteIsRite99I wish I knew! I would have flicked that switch by the time I turned 30!
every time you change your icon i'm like "yea this ones basically perfect"
it's been the same cycle for like 9 years now, major kudos to the artist who does these for you
It’s so hard to go back to the older ones every single time, it’s surreal
🍆
Wait, does Johnny not draw his own icons?
@@Iinneusnot anymore, all the thumbnails and channel art for 3 years now i think has been from an artist he commissions
@@johnathanj.sellout1352i think that started in 2017
Every time I see Johnny review a new Sonic game I get hit with a wave of nostalgia. Because I’m pretty sure his Sonic reviews were some of the first videos I ever watched on RUclips growing up. Lol
For me its the super mario 64 one, that intro will always be engraved in my memory.
@@trapythetmanhimself I think the first ever was Sonic 06 for me. I remember back when I used to “role play Sonic characters on Facebook” (cringe asf I know) some guy recommended me that video after an 06 discussion. Back then I was so little and naive. I argued that every Sonic game was good. But Johnny opened my eyes to criticism and also showed me that more awesome franchises other than Sonic existed. Can’t thank him enough for broadening my perspective. Truly helped me become interested in trying everything I can. :))
I still go back and watch the Sonic 06 review sometimes, never gets old
@@XP9724 I rewatch all his reviews constantly. My favorite being the Ecco one
@@HeroesRiseUp Johnny's review of Celeste convinced me to give it a try even though I usually don't like Super Meatboy type games.
23:42 I love how Johnny officially lost it at this part 😂
The SGB family being back together feels like all is right.
As all things should be
I was very happy to hear that they had gotten back together.
I love there resident evil playthroughs personal favorites
Yeah after a 2 years hiatus state from the cvoid 19 incident happened.
Looking forward to the rest of the playthrough, that debit episode was hilarious!
Tails Doll and Slicers in one Sonic game. Truly John's wet dream.
I like to think that bit with the Nintendo Direct reveal of Shadow kicking Silver in the head came to Johnny in a dream, and he woke up in a cold sweat at 4am just to bring it to fruition
Regarding where the final boss comes from, according to Ian Flynn, there was a ton of lore that was planned out, but never included in the game (which surprised him). I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re saving that for something akin to Mania Adventures.
If there's one thing Sega is good at other than video games sometimes, it's putting a wrench in game development. Sonic especially.......
if it ain't physically in the game, it doesn't count
Yeah I felt bad for the purple dragon. What did he do to deserve being a boss? He seems like a cool guy that doesn't afraid of anything
i think SEGA are a little too obsessed with supplementary content lately
because it worked so well for Final Fantasy XV, everyone liked that (sarcasm), and everyone wants to do homework for the media they like
Sega being Sega, as always
Lot of old school Johnny lore in this one for long time fans. Love to see it
TAILS DOLL RETURNS
Tails doll and the slicers
Your rant on Trip's final boss was the best part of the video for me. That boss without a doubt is the worst boss in the whole franchise.
Unfortunately it's thanks to glitches I think Sega and Sonic team should patch the game for all the glitches they have.
That boss alone made me knock this game down at least 2 points
@@rouge939i think you guys are overreacting. It really wasnt that bad. Considering it is A CLASSIC SONIC GAME which means just 2d, it was a pretty good super sonic final boss fight.
@@Jason-..-nah, fuck all 3 of the final bosses. Eggman's is tedious and boring, Fang's is the biggest horse shit I've played in a Classic Sonic game, and the final final FINAL boss is prayer to RN-Jesus. Love Sonic, fuck these bosses.
@@Jason-..- They were talking about the Trip Final Boss.
Personally though, I didn't feel the bosses were nearly as bad as everyone said. Most of them I thought were fine. I didn't have any real trouble until some of the bosses on Trip's Story or the final few of both. (I honestly had more trouble with the Last Story than anything else in the entire game.)
Considering how long Johnny's been making videos on this blue menace, he has every right to be considered a "Sonic Superstar" himself.
18:32 Poor Johnny never can get away from those Slicers, can he?
I hope folks enjoy the new intro tune, short as it is! Johnny paid for this commission by buying me Sonic Superstars on Steam. I wish I was kidding about that, but I'm not. 😅
Damn, was it worth it??
Johnny 2016: “you may not get a superform for collecting all six, but Tails is wise enough to get some use out of them individually. Take some notes you blue @$&%boy”.
Sonic: I took notes you @$&%boy!
The worst part for me John is that I played both Freedom Planet games & Mania before this to get me excited & prepped. All 3 of those games are more fairly priced & consistent. OST for all 3 are fantastic too whereas Superstars jumps all over the place in quality. Most of the levels are fun in Superstars but the bosses pissed me off too much as did Trip's story.
I blame Arzest. Sega being focused on clout nowadays (Explains why Yong was picked for the English voice of Kazuma Kiryu) doesn't help either.
@@Code7Unltd Yong has been voicing in stuff for a while ever since playing Pucci in JoJo Stone Ocean's adaptation. He's also voiced a character in Lost Judgment's DLC. I don't really get the vibe it has to do with clout. Maybe you think he's misscast, but that's a different sort of problem.
@Code7Unltd Regardless of Arzest's track record I think it's nice that Iizuka got them to have a new Sonic game made with involvement from Sonic's original character designer.
@@Code7Unltd I feel like Sega is more to blame than anyone else for constantly destroying every IP they own by rushing shit every single dev cycle.
@@LeopoldLitchensteinpeople cite the Yoshi games to shit on Arzest (they were mainly just art/support on Balan) not realizing that back in their Artoon days they made stuff like Blinx, Last Story, Blue Dragon, etc. so they can be a more than competent dev... but people love to blame everything other than Sega's management for some reason, despite being legendarily terrible.
The fact the Johnny hates slicers so much, I’m surprised no one has cosplayed as one yet lol
I was totally surprised to see this game listed for $60. I want to support these types of games but feel like they got to meet in in the middle somewhere 😂
A game like this is worth $60 if it doesn't feel like a budget title. Games like Mario Wonder and DKC Tropical Freeze are 2D games that feel like full budget releases.
@@GameFreak164X I loved shorter and creative games systems like the ds and gameboy games would come out with. Also I feel the 30-40$ price tag were worth the price for those game. I don’t want games like that to go away but I want to pay an appropriate price for them.
It’s not worth 60 dollars due to the Length and Glitches.
@@jonahabenhaim1223 I don’t need every game to be 80+ hours either. The overall quality just has to be in proportion with the price.
@@bbyjohn11 May I recommend a game like Sekiro or the Yakuza/Like a Dragon series then?
4:09 I heavily agree with that statement. Having the camera pan towards whatever direction Sonic is running in like in Sonic CD would seriously help with reacting to oncoming hazards, and I really think that should've be a permanent mainstay for every 2D Sonic game. It would also be great if players had the option to zoom the camera out in real time however they see fit for the sake of having a better view ahead. That way, players could choose how they want the camera to be zoomed out without it being forced onto players who don't like that change.
The game looks like a mobile game, so no.
@@ohosmandivine6770 Don't bother with him. He's repeating himself.
@@ohosmandivine6770 Yes, yes it is. ;)
@@leon4000 Who are you?
Hey mate, heard you've been suffering some burnout - just wanna say, take all the time you need. Health comes first. And I super appreciate all the videos you've made (all the ones I've seen, anyway) thus far. Your output rate has actually been super wild lately, to the point where I was wondering how you were accomplishing it - burning the candle at both ends I guess. Definitely take it easy man, recover a bit - I don't think your audience is going anywhere. I know I'm not. Youve well and truly paid your dues to be able to take a break, and have people embrace your return with open arms whenever that may be. Also, saw a comment here that you had let us know through twitter, certainly didn't expect a video on the matter and I dont use twitter, but it's good to know what's going on for you man. Take it easy til whenever you're ready man. All the best. ✨️
Okay I was wondering what was going on.
Lovely new artwork. Also 16:53 I'm excited to see what this may lead to in the future.
When johnny changes the thumbnail art i consider it a new era. I still cant belive its been 12 years since he started the VS series. Much love
I 100% agree with your thoughts on the boss fights. It's the only reason that I couldn't bring myself to finish the game. It's such a shame because everything else was really fun. I didn't play co op, so I can't speak for it but single player was really fun until you get to those infernal bosses.
Was not disappointed by this. Also glad you brought up how the camera is too close to Sonic in gameplay, something a lot of other reviewers don't bring up.
Same. I feel like the field of view given to you is barely more than the Advance games. Which shouldn't be a thing for an HD game.
@@seacliff217it’s frustrating because the remasters of the classic games & Mania are in widescreen, resolving the issue the mega drive games had of not having enough time to react to some obstacles. Wtf happened here?
@pcb1175 I agree. This is a problem because u can't surrounds you of what's ahead.
There’s nothing like watching Johnny review a Sonic game, it’s just very nostalgic for me. I remember finding his older sonic videos as a child, and just being very entertained by his commentary lol. So watching this is very cool
i totally relate to this.
I hear ya. I first discovered johnny from that 19th anniversary sonic interview he made in 2010 when I was 15 and that lead me to look at his reviews and still follow him to this day and brainscratch.
Fun fact: there's a glitch where when you are carrying Trip, if you cross the checkpoint right before picking her up and jump into the portal, Amy will just rotate in the air with Trip since they can't roll into a ball
16:48 Gotta love how Johnny manages to keep alive bits of his that have been around since the channel’s earliest days
Now imagine how scarred Johnny would be if there was a boss as difficult as Fang's
Only it was a slicer
Slick new assets, a new 2D Sonic game, and SGB is back in business, it feels like 2017.
Or like 2010 in my case. His month of Metroid videos from back in 2010 were how I got introduced to his stuff. Been along for the ride since.
The game looks like a mobile game, so no.
@@ramonandrajo6348 wait till you learn how most cartoony sidescrollers look
@@ohosmandivine6770 Nice try, fanboy. XD
@@ctpp64 Nice try, fanboy. XD
i was just 10-11 when i discovered your channel and watched your original sgb sonic reviews. it blows my mind on how much you’ve grown.
to this day you’ve become a huge comfort channel to me that i still love tuning in to your reviews. hope to continue seeing more awesome reviews from you.
I can't remember excatly when I found this channel since I've been watching for so long but I do remember it was sometime before the Sonic 2006 video.
@@GenerationZ313His old Sonic 2006 video, or the 50 min one?
That Fangbot fight had my wife and I ranting and chomping at the bit, too. We both just flipped it off after beating it... Only for the game to crash and force us to do it again.
7 years ago I was getting ready to move away for a new job in a new city, and was stressing tf out. However, at the same time I remember watching Johnny’s Sonic videos as they were dropping around thanksgiving. They provided a very genuine comfort at a very scary and unstable time, which is why I rewatch them every year around this time. Makes me smile to see him continuing to review Sonic all these years later.
How are you holding up now? I'm glad to see you're still in one piece!
"Don't spend $60 on this..."
I felt pain throb in my chest. :(
If there were checkpoints during boss fights and no one hit kills, the boss fights would be amazing.
And much less time between opportunities to damage them
Even the classic series had some bosses with one-hit kills. In my opinion, it is just a matter of learning the game.
I swear, every time John changes art assets and the intro music, it's either with a new Sonc review or right after a Sonic review.
22:01 WAIT A SECOND I JUST REALIZED
this freakin' Mech honestly reminds me of that one other big ass Mech Eggman piloted in one of the starting episodes of Sonic X
Oh right, the green one!
Good times.
I was really excited to see what you would do in regards to the Tails Doll cameo and was not disappointed.
As for my take, I had a great time with the game playing solo and while the boss fights are pretty miss, likely trying to compensate for the Emerald Powers and especially the coop, the final Eggman and Fang battles are great. It’s not among my absolute favorite Sonic games but it’s still a lot of fun. Also Trip is precious.
Seeing the tails doll again and whatever the tease was for after was like my multiverse of madness. It's already been said a lot in the comments but Johnny reviewing Sonic really is nostalgic. Him and Clement were two of the first youtubers I ever followed. Glad you're still going strong. ❤️
21:30 archie comics fang in a nutshell.(love they kept him being absolutely terrified of amy's hammer/did a really good job emphasizing getting hit by that thing would hurt like royal hell with how strong amy gets.:3)
I just got PTSD when Johnny bought up the Fang Robot boss. I agree with Johnny. The boss fights and Trip's story really do bring this game down for me. Like I've had no desire to go back and replay Superstars since I've beaten it.
I don't care how pretty it is, I am not paying 60 dollars for a side-scrolling Sonic game. 20? Sure. 30? That's REALLY pushing it.
But 60? I'm expected to pay the same amount that I would for Sonic Frontiers on launch, a game which had massive open zones to run around in, fully voiced cutscenes and kickass music, and a detailed story? No, not gonna happen.
If Johnny reacted like this to the boss fights here I can only imagine the censored mode makes it’s return for the frontiers round 2😂
7/10 isn't a bad score, let them complain. I hope the team takes the game an improves on it rather than chuck the whole thing in the damn dumpster for the next one.
LOVE the new thumbnail art, Johnny 🤩
As for Sonic Superstars, I would give the game a 7.5 out of 10. I love the level design, and all the playable characters are absolute fun, but these I've got to be some of the worst boss battles in the series; they take way too long with their attack patterns, and absolutely kill the pacing of the game.
Also, I know we haven't seen Fang the sniper in 30 years but after that final boss battle I hope we don't see him for another 90
ROTFLMAO @ Fang rant
The game looks like a mobile game, so no.
emerald powers honestly obliterate most bosses in less than 20 seconds i promise lol
@@ramonandrajo6348 repeating your opinion won't make it come true
@@ramonandrajo6348 I guess some people just don't got the eye for it. You need to get better with your judgement. For this games flaws, at least it can be proven that 2.5D can be improved on. Some people lack in understanding of technology and say things because others have said it.
This is a game that whenever I go back to, it will be exclusively for the Time Attack mode. The levels in this game are mostly a blast to play through, but the bosses really do kill the experience a bit. Hopefully they address them with a patch eventually but enough time has passed since release that I’m not sure this game is getting touched again. Maybe they have plans for sequels already.
the only superstars review i care about
Only one that’s good and not crying and complaining about retail price or it not being sonic mania 2. The game is good and I guarantee you years from now you’re going to see a bunch of people making sonic superstars underrated videos
21:14 I like how consistent and easy to trigger that bug is
Big agree with everything said here. The game really nails certain parts and provides an amazing classic Sonic experience... but those BOSS FIGHTS, man. They hang out in the background where you can't hit them for WAY too long, not to mention the redundant music. There's also no checkpoints on multi phase fights when there really should be (looking at you Fang/Eggman final bosses on the normal campaigns).
Dramatically lowered my enjoyment of this otherwise interesting new take on 2d Sonic. I know Mania re-used a lot of content, but gameplay wise it just felt a lot better to play, imo.
Agreed
A new Johnny vs. thumbnail always feels like a brand new season of my favourite show lol
Can’t wait for the Mario wonder & Sonic Dream Team video
Yep. Hard agree with all this. I feel like the bosses would be better if the invulnerability for the bosses also acted like the classics - half a second long, rather than the nightmare that is this game and you only being able to get one hit in every 30 seconds. Aside from that though, I really genuinely did like this game. $60 is quite steep for it, and I would have thought it would have been like $40 or so. Ah well.
The game isn’t bad… but just buy Mario Wonder. That game definitely earns its price tag.
Sonic Superstars is an alright game (horrible boss fights aside), but the fact that they charged 40 more dollars than Sonic Mania at launch is embarrassing. This is a budget title through and through.
I can't count how many times I nodded my head agreeing with this review. It's basically what I've been saying to ppl when they ask should they get this game. And yes, you should.....on sale.
So you want the game to fail, ok.
@@vgmaster02twitter user detected
@@vgmaster02look! A mindless shill appeared! It's vgmaster02! Keep on blowing all your money on mediocre shit, pal. Quality be damned, apparently.
@vgmaster02 bruh, that is a whole different sentence 💀💀
@vgmaster02 My dude, it already failed ON RELEASE.
Damn game on Day 1 didn't even make what Frontiers made on Day 1.
Sure, Superstars had competition and Frontiers didn't, but still.
I absolutely loved all the callbacks in this episode for the long time viewers
As Johnny mentioned in his Sonic Frontiers video in regards to characters mentioning past events, I feel respected when he does moments like that because he is basically acknowledging the fact that some of us have been watching his content for so long.
I love this! The new thumbnail art that takes the new artwork for each game from the previous thumbnails, the new intro, and the fact that it's a Sonic game is fantastic. This was a great review. It was entertaining, made me laugh, and in general, your Sonic videos are usually your best work. I can't tell you how many times I rewatched the Sonic Marathon because of how enjoyable those videos were, and I still watch them to this day. I'm excited for the future videos to come, including another revisit to the blue blur's red plumber rival/friend. Awesome work, John!
Get this, the true final boss is a super specific reference to the Japanese instruction manual of Sonic 3 and Knuckles where Knux talks about possibly seeing some purple dragon after the game's end.
Glancing at the timers at the top left of the screen, it looks like some of those bosses take like what, a third of the stage's playtime to beat? That's pretty insane for a 2D platformer.
Some of them are more than half the level. The last Fang fight and the true final boss actually can both go on for *more than ten minutes*
Yes, they’re as game ruining as Johnny is saying.
I would say the Carnival Night Zone Act 2 boss was guilty of this, he can only be attacked when he lowers to pick up the ball and with how long it takes along with the Barrel of Doom mishap you could easily get a time over if you don't rush through the stage.
That is if you don't use the insta shield.
On the topic of SuperStars' boss fights, I like the idea of wanting to make them more standout compared to previous Classic games, since most of the bosses in those games are pushovers that are over with faster than they appear. I don't think most of SuperStars' bosses are that bad, but they do definitely nosedive towards the end of the game. Since the bosses were balanced around multiplayer, if the next 2D Sonic game has multiplayer, I think it would be fine if they had dedicated single player and multiplayer modes, and in single player, they speed up the boss fights by 50% or something and make their waiting periods significantly shorter. Just spitballin' some ideas here. They're the one thing keeping Sonic SuperStars from being an excellent game, though I still enjoyed my time with the game.
Personally I liked the Late Game Bosses but I also got into Sonic through Freedom Planet and the Late Game Bosses KICK you ass in those games so I was a lot more prepared for them
The game looks like a mobile game, so no.
@@ramonandrajo6348do you enjoy life?
@@enternamehere3759 Of course I do. :)
It's great to see Johnny review a Sonic game that is solid and playable.
He did that with frontiers too.
@@ohgodwhy6640and the murder of sonic
😂
Is it
You wrote this before you saw his rant about the bossfights, right?
Trip is good addition to the Sonic roster, but I hope she doesn't suffer the curse of the orange Sonic character, as in being forgotten or sidelined like it happened with Tikal, Cream and Sticks, but if the sudden return of the small rabbit on the upcoming Sonic Dream Team is anything to tell, maybe she'll make more appareances.
Don't forget Marine the Racoon, from Sonic Rush Adventure.
Honestly as someone who loves this game. definitely agree with a lot of points. Especially those boss fights man... Haven't had the chance to experience the multiplayer but from the looks of things i'm not missing much. Great review as ever Johnny
I've played some of it and it's fine when it's just 2 players. Haven't had a chance to try it out with 3 or 4
I like this game too, but the boss fights are one of three things that bring this game down for me.
@@danthedork965from what I've seen, it's worse than Super Mario 3D World.
@esmooth919 well again when it's just 2 players it's harmless and fun
I'm probably gonna invite a friend who likes Sonic over so we can play the game multiplayer. I feel like for two people it's ideal but in a party setting its probably something you can relax and compete/have laughs with friends at, I didn't think it'd be mind blowing
I haven't gotten super far into the game yet but I feel like even just nerfing the bosses' HP would be a noticeable improvement on that front. It's not the only change that needs to be made, but it feels like they took steps to prevent you from getting more than one hit per opening, but based the HP values on those in Sonic games where you CAN, without really considering how that negatively impacts the length of boss fights.
I’ll be honest. When I first saw the teasers for this game I’m like “SONIC 4 REVAMP?!” But no it’s basically taking the best of Mania, Origins Plus, Sonic 4, and New Super Mario and throwing it all together to make one solid, yet problematic, Sonic game. I can honestly tell they are wanting to recapture the magic of the 2D originals, and sometimes they have little sparks that refine or even expand what was once done in past. But I think Mania hit the nail on the head of what is possible, what needed improvements, and the dedicated fans willing to make it work.
Personally, I feel like if this was something 16-bit added as a new game to Origins Plus (like Lost Levels in Mario Allstars) I think it would work as an expansion to the classics and 8 bit games all in one bubble.
But if they REALLY wanna bring back the classics, or revive some 90s nostalgia, wait till you hear my pitch for Sonic Xtreme version 12795028363802730.2
Rather that composing with the mindset of "This is a genesis game", compose with the mindset of making a song and then porting it down to the Genesis. I think that mindset would work a lot better and why the other composers succeeded.
Wasn't that the mindset of the vast majority of composers during the 3rd and 4th generation of consoles?
@@esmooth919 Yeah and it worked, which makes the guy's approach confusing compared to the other composers. It's like he resents making music for games of this style.
It’s honestly wild that Sega actually charged $60 for this game when they released Like a Dragon Gaiden a few weeks later, and that game is has a lower price tag ($50), way more content, and is an absolute banger.
Superstars would’ve been an easy recommend at $30 or $40 but for $60? Naw not even close.
I defintely would've picked it up if it was closer to half the price that they were selling it for.
Just got the platinum trophy for this game on PlayStation. Commence the Johnny Goodness!
Hi Johnny, I wanted to leave a comment because your video showed up in my feed today. I just wanted to thank you for being apart of my childhood, I spent a lot of time watching your videos when I didn't even have the system or game you were talking about! This was back when I was around 12-14 and I am 21 now about to graduate college. Thank you Johnny and also Elliott!
19:51 That happened to me as well! I don’t know why the game asks you to select acts in the first place at that point!
Bro, I don’t think I’ve ever agreed with one of Johnny’s review more in my decade of watching him. This review is *spot on* with what I think of it. Thanks as always, Johnny!
You can tell this is Elliot's room with the Godzilla figures in the background.
Nice NECA and Bandai collection, Elliot!
I agree so much with what you said on the boss fights. Just awful.
Even with free hits with the emerald power ups I still think this is the worst line up of bosses in the entire series and I've played almost every single Sonic platformer.
Yooo, this version of your intro might be the best one yet! Absolutely nailed it man!
I disagree. The original Tee Lopes version was by far the best.
@@esmooth919 As a piece of music, for sure, I agree. But it was a bit too long for an intro imo. I like this
Johnny reviewing sonic games just feels so nice and nostalgic. I definitely wanna pick this game up
The reason the bosses are designed like that is because of the multiplayer. Also, one cool fact that I heard about the water power that is never mentioned is its ability to save you from getting crushed.
The intro change made my realize that I have been watching your chanel since sonic generations came out, keep up the good work.
I agree with you point word for word, but I wanted to add my own thoughts:
1. Trip - I think she’s the closest thing we have to an anthropomorphic dragon (looking at you Sonic Forces). Another thing is that her Super Form is rather unique (compared to Sonic, Shadow, Blaze, and Silver).
Another thing is that Trip outclasses Sonic as my main in this game, not even Super Sonic tempts me to return back to playing Sonic in regular gameplay.
2. The levels were unique and the graphics were phenomenal. I enjoyed the Sky Temple and Pinball level. The fruits from Amy’s section in Lagoon City reminds me of the Tropical Coast level in Sonic Lost World.
3. Amy Rose - I love her girly run animation and I’m happy that her classic self is getting more shine (she’s the closest we have to an insta shield).
The one thing I miss about Amy is her top speed animation is when she holds her hammer.
4. Sky Temple, Sand Sanctuary, and Cyber Station - It felt different for those Zones to have one Act and Frozen Base requires you to gun for Act 2 instead of Tails’ version.
5. Fang - I found him laughably simple like he was in Triple Trouble (except for the auto-scroller level and his Mecha Fang boss fight).
6. Bosses - some were easy and some required good timing. Trip’s story required me to be on my toes.
The Last Story boss felt ripped straight out of Mania’s true Final Boss.
The game’s pretty much a step up from Balan for Arzest not that it was hard to do. Still, I hope the Mania crew get to make a sequel. Heck, I’d be down for the next 2D Sonic to bring back the Freedom Fighters even if unlikely
Hell I wouldn’t mind having a future 2D game that takes influence from the Adventure duology.
13:17 I had this idea where the Chaos Emeralds by themselves would let Sonic lose less rings upon being hit. Like with 1 emerald, Sonic keeps 5 rings, but with all he keeps 35 rings.
I'm so happy you feel the same way about the bosses. Like holy, they take waaaaay too long.
Oh man, Johnny vs Sonic Lost World was the first somecallmejohnny video I watched exactly 10 years ago and I now I get to watch him review another new Sonic game. Thanks for all the memories these past 10 years Johnny and here’s to many more!
Sonic Lost World is a decade old...... What even happened to time?
I had the Nintendo Switch version at launch. you nailed everything good and bad, but i had the load times which made me go...."Sega...we're in 2023...you didn't have load times for Sonic Mania...why here? WHY!?"
I still feel confused by the total of at least five composers tie to this game
Mania is by all terms a technically inferior game in terms of requirements. It can run without the load screens because it utilized the tricks the classic games did to hide loading. No such luck with 2.5D.
And for reference, even Metroid Dread has load screens.
I finished superstars a few days ago and all of the points here, positives and negatives I agree with.
The second I saw those Slicer badniks, I thought of you Johnny. The times the boss music glitched out on you, consider it a blessing actually. Why wasn't the boss theme for Press Factory used as default? I'm stuck at the Fang auto scroller boss. As for me accidental level skips, it was the Jungle Sonic stage for me.
That Mario Wonder video better start with, “Hey are you ready to Mario size.”
"No, no. We don't need any of that shit"
Mother of god!
I definitely hope the game becomes easier on second or third runs after my first try.
I had a miserable time with trips story’s final boss where I spent 3 hours trying to beat it and I hated that super sonic final boss.
I really hope there’s like a mania plus fix where the bosses are fixed
100% agreed with your review here. The game is fun, but I think probably should have been $40 instead of $60. It feels like the final bosses and that mode were rushed to meet a deadline, because the rest of the game is very enjoyable.
Johnny brings back the number scoring system at the sacrifice of SGB itself. Rest in Peacewalker
Great to see a new Sonic Game reviewed. Looking forward to seeing you do Mario Wonder, just for a future notice. Those are L's not 1's in my name. Still made me laugh in the end though.
For the record, I think local 2D Sonic Co-Op CAN work. It just doesn't in Superstars.
Being able to choose who the character latches on to would be nice. Pressing the Minus/Options to "Baton Pass" the camera to another character could be an interesting mechanic. Also, if the other playable character didn't disappear right away after going off-screen... that'd be nice. Even in Sonic 2 and 3, Tails still lingered off-camera for a few seconds. Let us set a timer of how long it is before we get warped back. 1, 2, 3, 5 seconds? Let the players choose.
Next, allow players who die during boss battles to come back DURING the Boss Battle. Some of the bosses at the end are hard enough. if you can find someone to come over to your house to play, let them help you. Why not? Lastly... maybe more than ONE mode should be playable with friends. This game has "Three" Story Modes. But you can only play with friends in the first one. So... maybe fix that somehow.
The game looks like a mobile game, so no.
I do think Co-Op in a traditionally single player style game can work, just have splitscreen, sure it may be hard to program for but let's not forget you can play most of the Halo franchise in splitscreen multiplayer and by this pont Halo Combat Evolved is over 20 years old and was a fully 3D game.
@@GenerationZ313 I have nothing against a split-screen option for Co-Op. But I know why SEGA is hesitant to do it.
For layman gamers. They'll ask the very basic question "Why is it split screen here? Mario doesn't do split-screen?" And we know SEGA is trying to compete in that circle.
Of course, everyone who has played Superstars will know why. But little Timmy and his mother Karen won't put 2 and 2 together.
Having my exact thoughts on this game spewed back to me (complete with the Wonder playthrough directly after) is surreal.
The Tails Doll AND the Slicers in one place...
Merry Christmas, Johnny!!!
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Still having PTSD from those slicers I see.
While we all agree this isn't Sonic's best game, it's still miles better than Sonic 4 (both episodes) and miles better than other janky games released in the past 2 years (AKA Pokemon Scarlet/Violet, The Callisto Protocol, Balan Wonderworld, etc...) and this is Arzest's most solid game because Naoto Ohshima produced this game alongside Ilzuka-San (all of the flaws of Balan is all on Yuki Naka's ideas that didn't go so well).
Y'know, I'm still surprised to see after all these years that Johnny still very much identifies himself as the "Sonic Guy." Given that, in the grand scope of the series, aside from the Genesis games he's pretty "ehhh" on the vast, VAST majority of the series' library.
It'd be like starting a RUclips channel where you brand yourself as the Chinese Food guy, but when you get right down to it, the only Chinese food you like are dumplings, sweet n sour chicken, and egg rolls. But hey, it's great content regardless!
I mean, other content creators have had more extreme reactions from the franchise. King K and J reviews moved on from Sonic entirely. In comparison, Johnny's stance is more "I enjoy these games, but it's pretty obvious that they're funky or need more time in the oven".
Being an Sonic fan is very hard. No matter how tough it gotten or how many games they keep on making, it doesn't leave in alot of positive note. Even if there are decent games, it still wasn't enough.
18:32 Didn't expect that jumpscare. Scared the hell out of me.
(5:11) Funny how things work out since the SGB playthrough came out first