James O'Brien asks: who is most to blame for the current state of Britain? | LBC

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  • Опубликовано: 22 май 2024
  • As Rishi Sunak calls a General Election for 4th July, James O'Brien asks his callers: Who is to blame, over the last 14 years, that has led to the current state of Britain?
    1:18 - Learning from the lessons of the last 14 years, caller Ben advises James O'Brien's listeners ahead of the election: 'Please do your homework, and don't get taken in by the snazzy suit even if it’s a bit damp.'
    2:00 - Caller Richard believes that ‘Nick Clegg’ is responsible for the downfall of Britain.
    4:55 - Caller Dawn says the blame lies with ‘Rupert Murdoch hands down’.
    6:45 - ‘George Osbourne was the architect of Britain's downfall', caller Hetty tells James O'Brien.
    8:42 - Caller Connor tells James O'Brien that Gordon Brown is the 'accidental contender' for who has contributed to the current state of the country.
    12:01 - Caller Matt blames 'Nigel Farage and the Brexit fallout'.
    Rishi Sunak and Keir Starmer have launched their election campaigns ahead of July 4th, with Sunak telling Britain to ‘choose its future’, and Starmer saying ‘it’s time for change’.
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Комментарии • 683

  • @LongDarkTeatimeOfTheSoul
    @LongDarkTeatimeOfTheSoul 28 дней назад +295

    The biggest contributor to the downfall of Britain, Thatcher. If she’d not sold off oil&gas we’d have £1trillion pension fund like Norway, we’d have cheaper electric & gas, water would be clean…..

    • @jungleboy1
      @jungleboy1 28 дней назад +40

      everybody would have a home without thatcher right now. She gave everyone a home in the 80s but forgot to replace them.

    • @garagenigel
      @garagenigel 28 дней назад +22

      ​@@jungleboy1 I don't think she forgot though!

    • @jungleboy1
      @jungleboy1 28 дней назад +9

      @@garagenigel planned all along then!

    • @johnrussell3961
      @johnrussell3961 28 дней назад +22

      Norways wealth fund now generates a greater income than its dwindling oil and gas.

    • @davidgreen6490
      @davidgreen6490 28 дней назад +6

      @@johnrussell3961 Yes, but they will face the same problem we have when they have used 70% of the oil. Their oil field is much bigger than ours..

  • @ZachBobBob
    @ZachBobBob 28 дней назад +166

    Murdoch. That man has almost singlehandedly wrecked the entire planet. He's Emperor Palpatine in real life

    • @user-ef4vg6kp9x
      @user-ef4vg6kp9x 28 дней назад +22

      Murdoch is the devil

    • @markwalker2627
      @markwalker2627 27 дней назад +9

      The truth right here.

    • @chrishughes3405
      @chrishughes3405 27 дней назад +9

      On the world stage, either murdoch or putin for palpatine incarnate.

    • @timthegallant
      @timthegallant 27 дней назад +15

      Murdoch has had such an insidious influence on our country.hes not even from our country yet he panders to the intolerant,judgemental and those that lack compassion for those that deserve our sympathy.i know evil is a very strong word but i think there is an argument for it.

    • @minui8758
      @minui8758 22 дня назад +2

      Yes! Absolutely! 100%! The worst thing to happen to Britain and America! All of our institutions, monarchy, church, judiciary and constabulary, our parliament, our international relations with Europe and the commmonwealth, our political parties, the trade unions, all the dozens and dozens of families his hacks have persecuted… all of them, the whole fabric of society, have been irreparably damaged by the sensationalist prurient culture he brought in! Awful unspeakable man!

  • @Thorkil9
    @Thorkil9 28 дней назад +137

    Thatcher - she laid the groundwork

    • @stretfordender11
      @stretfordender11 28 дней назад

      Blair laid the ground work. He destroyed this country beyond repair. Look at London.

    • @nuxkamina
      @nuxkamina 27 дней назад

      Lol, so 34 years of no leadership since?

    • @jannenreuben7398
      @jannenreuben7398 25 дней назад

      No, she just inherited a backwards obsolete economy. She tried - and failed - to modernise it.

  • @user-vs3ku4xk9c
    @user-vs3ku4xk9c 28 дней назад +64

    Wealthy businessmen running this country feeding their wealthy mates to build their businesses whilst making the poor poorer.

    • @LA-fr7fx
      @LA-fr7fx 24 дня назад

      Spot on! An entitled elite. Labour are no better, look at champagne socialist Tony Blair!

    • @robwakelin5559
      @robwakelin5559 23 дня назад +1

      That, right there.

    • @2fold.80
      @2fold.80 20 дней назад

      Isn't that what humans want though? Look at any age, the majority of people have always been ruled by the toxic few. Its the natural order of primates.

  • @williamoram6969
    @williamoram6969 28 дней назад +68

    All of this can be traced back to Thatcher who was unfortunately successful in changing both the political & the economic philosophy. Before Thatcher we had council houses, now we have nothing , which apparently is not a problem. That’s just one example out of thousands.

    • @Mitjitsu
      @Mitjitsu 28 дней назад +1

      Even if that's true you should be blaming who created the conditions which allowed her to come to power.

    • @johnrussell3961
      @johnrussell3961 28 дней назад +1

      @@Mitjitsu. That was OPEC!

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 27 дней назад +1

      @william You actually took time out to post that?😂

    • @blazzz13
      @blazzz13 27 дней назад +4

      @@chatham43 can you try to actually string together a coherent counter argument 🥴

    • @thejdemon
      @thejdemon 25 дней назад

      So no leader since thatcher is responsible for the lack of building new council houses?
      Strange how not a single leader after thatcher put a foot wrong, every single blunder is her fault and hers alone, there hasn't been 30+ years since she left leadership to correct anything. 🤔

  • @user-zc4yd9ss7h
    @user-zc4yd9ss7h 28 дней назад +101

    There are many things wrong with this country but every single one of them has been made worse by the Troy Party and the Brexit dead end the country chose to go down.

    • @stretfordender11
      @stretfordender11 28 дней назад +4

      Most normal people would say Blair

    • @johnrussell3961
      @johnrussell3961 28 дней назад +12

      @@stretfordender11. Your most….is now a dwindling minority. .

    • @user-zc4yd9ss7h
      @user-zc4yd9ss7h 28 дней назад +11

      @@stretfordender11 Blair had 40 consecutive quarters if economic growth.

    • @stretfordender11
      @stretfordender11 28 дней назад +5

      @@user-zc4yd9ss7h Blair also ruined the country beyond repair. What he did was irreversible for any future PM. His policies are directly related to the housing crisis, NHS crisis and the issues of the on going mobs in London we currently seeing every weekend

    • @stretfordender11
      @stretfordender11 28 дней назад

      @@johnrussell3961 all on going issues relate to Blair and all routes lead back to them. NHS and housing crisis is caused by the population increase no matter what your little sensitive head thinks.

  • @Shellewell
    @Shellewell 28 дней назад +83

    Murdoch, surely? His influence may have waned, but it set the course.

    • @jeffsimon9594
      @jeffsimon9594 28 дней назад +1

      🥱

    • @tamhunter5025
      @tamhunter5025 28 дней назад +2

      The blighty brigade are to blame them and them alone

    • @1porter
      @1porter 28 дней назад +6

      ​@@jeffsimon9594wakey wakey

    • @amcc5887
      @amcc5887 28 дней назад +6

      Absolutely sure didn't he finance brexit, of course he did,,,torie loving Australian, the mind boggles,,,

    • @RoofLight00
      @RoofLight00 27 дней назад +4

      Murdoch and thatcher.

  • @luke7708
    @luke7708 28 дней назад +94

    George Osborne. Without a second's hesitation. And he has gotten away with it

    • @woodngames
      @woodngames 28 дней назад

      Osborne and Cameron , couldn't agree more . They should be held accountable for there ''FLEX'' to europe that went so very wrong .

    • @dean9235
      @dean9235 27 дней назад +3

      And he's been getting away with it all his life.

    • @luke7708
      @luke7708 27 дней назад +5

      @@dean9235 ...I now have 'Getting Away With It by Electronic in my head

    • @cjmillsnun
      @cjmillsnun 26 дней назад +1

      Yup, Gideon is one of them along with Cameron.

    • @dean9235
      @dean9235 26 дней назад

      All cast from the same distorted and masonic mould.

  • @56postoffice
    @56postoffice 28 дней назад +46

    Has anyone mentioned George Osborne? He seems to have been forgotten, bearing in mind he was Chancellor during David Cameron's premiership. Evil.

  • @user-nj1qu1cs7s
    @user-nj1qu1cs7s 28 дней назад +66

    I'm an OAP and as a consequence of Brexit we are still suffering the worst pension in Europe.

    • @johnrussell3961
      @johnrussell3961 28 дней назад +3

      Who said it would be better? Farage?

    • @manvbees
      @manvbees 28 дней назад +3

      Haha not even close to the worst actually.

    • @raymondo6665
      @raymondo6665 28 дней назад

      What's not being in the EUSSR got to do with your state pension? I guarantee Greece pensioners would vote for Grexit. O'Braindead's got you all brainwashed.

    • @darlik1
      @darlik1 28 дней назад +4

      I hear Mexico has a higher pension.

    • @raymondo6665
      @raymondo6665 28 дней назад

      What's Brexit got to do with your state pension? Did you mean to say furlough?

  • @geraintevans6360
    @geraintevans6360 28 дней назад +43

    Media has an Awful lot to answer for

    • @Dynasty1818
      @Dynasty1818 28 дней назад

      LBC is a dumpsterfire of Labour bias.

    • @iala2058
      @iala2058 27 дней назад

      YES. End of.

  • @user-ol6rd7pl5t
    @user-ol6rd7pl5t 28 дней назад +108

    Anyone who voted Tory &/or for brexit.

    • @davidgreen6490
      @davidgreen6490 28 дней назад

      Brexit? LOL, that has nothing to do with the problems this country has..

    • @melluques8475
      @melluques8475 28 дней назад +6

      Agreed🙏🏻🥺🕊

    • @turnerdali4676
      @turnerdali4676 28 дней назад +5

      Agreed!👍🏼

    • @gumboson1974
      @gumboson1974 27 дней назад

      We still don't have Brexit, we never got it. The Torys are responsible for it all, including delivering a Brexit that isn't.

    • @user-ol6rd7pl5t
      @user-ol6rd7pl5t 27 дней назад +7

      @@gumboson1974 Thank you gorgeous your contribution comrade. Tell Putin to give you a few extra Rubbles for all your hard work.

  • @dandybean
    @dandybean 28 дней назад +22

    I blame the people unable to think critically.

    • @goonerbish
      @goonerbish 23 дня назад

      I blame the people who think they can think.

  • @stephfoxwell4620
    @stephfoxwell4620 28 дней назад +100

    Tories in power for 32 of the last 45 years.
    72% of the time.

    • @dotty1774
      @dotty1774 27 дней назад

      Yep and Only 3 Labour Leaders have ever won a General Election, we need to change the system

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 27 дней назад +4

      @steph We need a democratic vote in the UK!😂😂

    • @petefl1818
      @petefl1818 27 дней назад +7

      Yes, but don't forget Tory Blair ample time to reverse much of Thatcher's harmful legislation, like the right to buy, which he could have repealed but didn't.

    • @HistoritorJimaldus
      @HistoritorJimaldus 27 дней назад +1

      Thanks to the antidemocratic system called FPTP

    • @stephenmurray8559
      @stephenmurray8559 27 дней назад

      And that's exactly why labour, when they came in under Blair, set about destroying the country. So it could be rebuilt in his image. This is all Labours doing.

  • @Andrew-tx9jy
    @Andrew-tx9jy 28 дней назад +128

    The greedy swine who have been fleecing it for the past 14 years, that's who.

    • @lervish1966
      @lervish1966 28 дней назад +1

      Labour voters?

    • @1porter
      @1porter 28 дней назад +4

      Murdoch?

    • @hayleyxyz
      @hayleyxyz 28 дней назад +19

      @@lervish1966 yes the group who have had no political power are the problem

    • @turbogeek.421
      @turbogeek.421 28 дней назад

      *swines

    • @stretfordender11
      @stretfordender11 28 дней назад

      It’s Tony Blair and will be for what happens to Britain in the next 200 yrs

  • @clacton17
    @clacton17 28 дней назад +37

    Austerity and Brexit the Silent Killers in our Midst. End Off.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 27 дней назад

      @clacton Not forgetting lockdown!

    • @manvbees
      @manvbees 27 дней назад

      Austerity literally means the country paying off its debt and not living beyond its means. Do you think its a mistake to have responsible public spending?

    • @jcookec
      @jcookec 26 дней назад

      Austerity when you're spending less than what's coming in, we haven't had that.

    • @syriacchristianity9007
      @syriacchristianity9007 26 дней назад

      We now have 3x as much debt than before Tories got into power, you must speculate to accumulate

    • @SimonFrack
      @SimonFrack 25 дней назад

      @@manvbeesAt no point did we ever begin paying off the debt under the Tories.

  • @dsf6045
    @dsf6045 28 дней назад +101

    get tory exit done

    • @lervish1966
      @lervish1966 28 дней назад +1

      Votery

    • @amcc5887
      @amcc5887 28 дней назад +4

      Yes 💪💪💪💯

    • @oliverprain7613
      @oliverprain7613 28 дней назад +5

      Get Texit done ✔️

    • @JD-eq4dp
      @JD-eq4dp 27 дней назад

      To be replaced by that Labour shower ? Are you mad ??

    • @missizaskun
      @missizaskun 26 дней назад +3

      Best comment of all: Get Tory exit done. Love it!

  • @trevormj
    @trevormj 28 дней назад +27

    Other than Thatcher for selling off the utility companies, I also blame Blair for not introducing PR whilst he had such a vast majority - all this brexshit would not have happened under PR.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 27 дней назад

      @trevor You obviously prefer the EU variety of bs.

    • @trevormj
      @trevormj 27 дней назад +3

      @@chatham43 - simply put - yes it would have been better than 14 years of tory misrule..

    • @Lynnefromlyn
      @Lynnefromlyn 25 дней назад +3

      @@chatham43the EU is not responsible for the BS in our waterways and on our beaches. Give your head a wobble!

  • @Thorkil9
    @Thorkil9 28 дней назад +29

    Or - the influence of American think tanks and the creation of UK-based American-style think tanks - e.g. the Heritage Foundation

    • @darlik1
      @darlik1 28 дней назад +2

      The ERG

  • @blackdogbarking
    @blackdogbarking 28 дней назад +69

    I agree with first caller people will vote for Trump and Tories to avoid tax

    • @davidgreen6490
      @davidgreen6490 28 дней назад

      Not really, in most European countries people vote just to keep out the left. If there had been a credible third party in Britain, the Tories would have gone years ago..

    • @ray-wm7yd
      @ray-wm7yd 28 дней назад +16

      You won't avoid tory stealth taxes

    • @ne-ht4zx
      @ne-ht4zx 28 дней назад +15

      Haha! Vote tories to avoid tax! How high are taxes now?

    • @manvbees
      @manvbees 28 дней назад +3

      You think taxes are high now. Wait until labour need to fund their multi billion public sector and public housing plans 😂 you think money is free?

    • @raymondo6665
      @raymondo6665 28 дней назад

      TDS Alert

  • @danmayberry1185
    @danmayberry1185 28 дней назад +25

    Powell > Thatcher > Osborne > Murdoch/Bannon > Farage > Johnson

    • @user-kb5zx6xm4h
      @user-kb5zx6xm4h 28 дней назад +2

      WHAT HAS BARRY BANNAN DONE TO CAUSE THIS? Leave the scottish footballer alone.

    • @RoofLight00
      @RoofLight00 27 дней назад +1

      Accurate list.

    • @sijcalv
      @sijcalv 25 дней назад +1

      Deluded left wing nonsense.

    • @btj-oo8xc
      @btj-oo8xc 18 дней назад

      Murdoch should be after Powell

  • @ferret9800
    @ferret9800 28 дней назад +13

    The blame lays at the feet of the tory voter.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 27 дней назад

      @ferret And they should remain tory voters. They deserve each other!

  • @lcg8220
    @lcg8220 28 дней назад +29

    I still see people going on about how they don't trust any politicians because [insert long list of broken TORY promises], I also personally know people who blame "duh librul eleet" for tory policies, these people deserve our contempt at this point.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 27 дней назад

      @log We certainly don't want them voting Labour!

  • @marksykes1191
    @marksykes1191 28 дней назад +10

    I have absolutely no compassion for the conned , they were completely willing participants !

    • @johnrussell3961
      @johnrussell3961 28 дней назад +1

      You cannot con an honest man.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 27 дней назад

      @mark We certainly don't want them returning to Labour that's for sure!

  • @MarkInOxford
    @MarkInOxford 28 дней назад +13

    I blame Stanley Johnson, for inflicting Boris on the nation.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 27 дней назад

      @Markin And your Dad shouldn't get off scot free either.😊

    • @rogerphelps9939
      @rogerphelps9939 8 дней назад

      Stan's Mrs had a lo o do wih it as well.

  • @chrish961
    @chrish961 28 дней назад +15

    I agree...people should be more pro active in looking into the manifesto..I wish I had a pound for every time people who voted for BJ over corbyn...only to realise later that tory policies favoured the rich and corbyns manifesto contained more of what they wanted

    • @totalvoid6234
      @totalvoid6234 24 дня назад

      Kind of true, but also political manifestos are works of complete fiction.

    • @goonerbish
      @goonerbish 23 дня назад

      Power of the mainly right wing media. The are tge ones really in control.

  • @fig1115
    @fig1115 28 дней назад +12

    the rich and there minions ,on both sides of the aisle.

  • @PaulK-ve1pu
    @PaulK-ve1pu 28 дней назад +20

    Margaret Thatcher. She's still in power.

    • @nigelsynnott7344
      @nigelsynnott7344 28 дней назад +3

      From beyond the grave? Really???

    • @PaulK-ve1pu
      @PaulK-ve1pu 28 дней назад +6

      @@nigelsynnott7344 Yep.The most important and influential peacetime PM in British history. I hated her but she changed Britain in ways that still loom large today.

    • @JohnHollyoak-vx6pn
      @JohnHollyoak-vx6pn 28 дней назад

      @@nigelsynnott7344 True evil never dies!

    • @MsSmokeandmirrors
      @MsSmokeandmirrors 28 дней назад +4

      ​@@PaulK-ve1pu with her pal Reagan. Rot set in with them

    • @jogriffiths5766
      @jogriffiths5766 28 дней назад

      @@nigelsynnott7344 Yep. Sunak gets his ouiji board out to get 'advised'...wouldn't surprise me.

  • @liamfox3284
    @liamfox3284 28 дней назад +42

    Margaret Thatcher, end of

    • @jannenreuben7398
      @jannenreuben7398 25 дней назад

      The UK's problems started decades before Thatcher.

  • @jayr9952
    @jayr9952 28 дней назад +13

    The media are to blame

  • @BlaizeV
    @BlaizeV 28 дней назад +17

    Brown not going to the Polls with an 11% lead is a massive what if moment, if he does the next election would be 2012 and with the feelgood Olympics I think Labour could've won that too. Then you are looking at 20 years of Labour and I trust Brown to of kept the UK finacially stable and thriving in that period. No austerity and No brexit. What a wonderful world that would be.

    • @woodngames
      @woodngames 28 дней назад

      I remember the English newspapers around that time ''scotsman ruling westmister ,not in this country'' (that is me putting the headlines modestly) NOW LOOK at what you got for a PM and the one before him and the one before her and the one before him and one before her then the really dodgy one before that who has managed to weasel his way back into the corruption parties top honchos again. While Osbourne sits in the BBC telling the masses ''war is great fun ,nothing to see here''

    • @totalvoid6234
      @totalvoid6234 24 дня назад

      Ignoring that Brown was 110% an austerity PM.

    • @SimonFrack
      @SimonFrack 23 дня назад

      @@totalvoid6234It’s all relative.

  • @wrestlingp
    @wrestlingp 28 дней назад +8

    Oh my, where do we start? Cameron, Osborne, Clegg, Gove, Farage, Hunt, Dacre, Murdoch, Truss, Sunak, May, Johnson, Keunssberg, IDS, Hancock, Braverman, Dorries, Anderson, Rees Mogg. Just to name a few! 12 minutes is too short for this video!

    • @Denis.Collins
      @Denis.Collins 27 дней назад +2

      Blair, Brown and yet to come Child starver Starmer.

    • @wrestlingp
      @wrestlingp 27 дней назад +4

      @@Denis.Collins Denis you're out of touch mate, there's been 14 years of decline in this country since then. 2024 calling.

  • @gavinsmith9564
    @gavinsmith9564 27 дней назад +7

    Cameron, he was too much of a coward to stand up toi the far right.

  • @darthmali
    @darthmali 28 дней назад +20

    I have colleagues saying they will still vote for Cs. It baffles me considering we work with children living in poverty and deprivation

    • @raymondo6665
      @raymondo6665 28 дней назад +2

      Poverty in 2024 = only one wide screen TV.

    • @chrishughes3405
      @chrishughes3405 27 дней назад +2

      Regarding the op I see similar thing. Care home staff constantly struggling because of the massive underfunding to social care but they simply hate labour party. I genuinely believe most are gullible, inundated by right wing media social or otherwise and unhappy with their lives.

    • @Majorcorvo
      @Majorcorvo 27 дней назад +2

      ​@raymondo6665
      Does it matter how large the wide-screen tv is?
      If its say 50" are you more poor or less poor?
      You also forgot to mention "mobile phone".
      Like you I'm sick of hearing about people less fortunate than me having access to windscreen entertainment and food.

    • @raymondo6665
      @raymondo6665 27 дней назад

      @@Majorcorvo Anyone with less than a 50" 4K OLED TV, a laptop, latest mobile phone, smokes, drinks and has a pet dog is officially poor.

    • @Majorcorvo
      @Majorcorvo 27 дней назад

      @raymondo6665
      Ahh, "officially," gotcha.
      Maybe add "fact" at the end of the statement as well? That way, it can't be mistaken for an opinion.

  • @poplife123
    @poplife123 28 дней назад +5

    Defo Cameron ..... he's the architect of this dreadful mess we are in .....never vote Tory

  • @JohnHollyoak-vx6pn
    @JohnHollyoak-vx6pn 28 дней назад +28

    Nigel Farage.

  • @scottfarrell1906
    @scottfarrell1906 28 дней назад +5

    I thought alot can be blamed on Ed Miliband stabbing his brother in the back and Davids exit from British politics.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 27 дней назад

      @scott Wonder if they're on speaking terms yet?😊

  • @janetpazio9992
    @janetpazio9992 27 дней назад +3

    I agree with the caller who said George Osborne. What a wicked wicked policy is austerity. The rich certainly didn't suffer from austerity, in fact they gained from it. It's all just too disgusting and blatant cronyism

  • @Martinbeef
    @Martinbeef 28 дней назад +4

    I agree about the Gordon Brown. If he had called his election earlier, things might be very different. I remember before 2010 being so much better on so many ways. My life has been changed for the worse by the Tories and I’m still fighting to get the healthcare I need which was taken away. I might have been able to return to work. Instead, given drug after drug (now on 20 drugs a day) as the NHS isn’t geared up for healing, just treating. It’s a massive difference.

    • @user-td9hp6li5h
      @user-td9hp6li5h 27 дней назад

      Hmm maybe it is true that it was a monumental mistake on Gordon Brown's part that he didn't run the election when he could have won it, but I wouldn't put the blame at his door for all that followed. After all, nothing _made_ the Coalition Government and the subsequent Conservative Government do what they did; they _chose_ to do so, and that choice was theirs and not Gordon Brown's. They could have made different choices, choices in Britain's best interests and _they_ chose not to.

  • @matthewrotherham1
    @matthewrotherham1 28 дней назад +20

    ''I don't see how tuition fees helped the breaking of Britain''
    ...Gatekeeping learning and trying to stop the commoners going to Uni isn't an issue to you James?
    Seems a bit of an obvious issue!

    • @mrbearbear83
      @mrbearbear83 28 дней назад +2

      That's a huge issue.

    • @DerIchBinDa
      @DerIchBinDa 28 дней назад +6

      Education is one of the few equalizers in modern society and tacking a price tag to it means the less wealthy are more hindered in getting education.
      This is something I am actually proud of here in Germany that there are no tuition fees (with a very few exceptions)!

    • @Stew661
      @Stew661 28 дней назад +2

      Most unis in Britain provide an almost useless higher education anyway with the caveat of if you do a vocational programme like medicine or engineering, or else want to be a professional academic. Its a relic of a bygone age of scholarship, digging into some arcane study on how Henry 8th dismantled the church in history, or in economics trying to figure out if inflation and employment are connected, etc etc. Its become a big industry over the decades and doesnt produce the skills which are actually needed in business or in the public sector. On the question specifically of fees, if the taxpayer pays for higher education what happens is an electrician in Manchester ends up subsidising the daughter of a property developer in knightsbridge to read Jane Austin novels in English literature class when not going out for drinks with her friends in the student bar. Should the person receiving the benefit, perceived or real, not pay the cost for it? Isn't that real social justice?

    • @michaelnobbs5028
      @michaelnobbs5028 27 дней назад

      You only pay it back if you earn enough and it’s out of your tax you can even resit a year and get funding

    • @DerIchBinDa
      @DerIchBinDa 26 дней назад

      @@michaelnobbs5028 Still worse then just fund it upfront as lot of studies showed that putting tuition fees on higher education has an chilling effect especially for kids from poorer background.

  • @JruTxAgnt
    @JruTxAgnt 25 дней назад +3

    Osbourne and Cameron

  • @divinity176
    @divinity176 28 дней назад +6

    The electorate.

  • @ffsytube
    @ffsytube 28 дней назад +7

    The uninformed electorate

  • @jakeblair4215
    @jakeblair4215 25 дней назад +2

    Privitisation and lack of written constitution, plus fptp

  • @thetramp
    @thetramp 23 дня назад +1

    I could see an argument for Nick Clegg.
    He said that they'd sort student debt, which split the labour vote between lib dem and Labour. So that caused either labour to not get in, or gave LD enough seats that a coalition with the conservatives was possible that in turn gave them a "majority" because LD and Nick Clegg was too spineless to push back on things, which in turn allowed the conservatives to do what they wanted.

  • @paulwebster4499
    @paulwebster4499 28 дней назад +4

    The lady was absoultey corrcert. Brexit,was voted in due to the financial malaise of the working and middle classes. Carmeron and Osbourne are 100% to blame for Brexit

    • @johnrussell3961
      @johnrussell3961 28 дней назад

      That was like saying you had Indigestion so you sawed both legs off,
      Voting Brexit was never a cure..

    • @paulwebster4499
      @paulwebster4499 27 дней назад

      @@johnrussell3961 absoutley, but for lots of people it was the only protest vote available

  • @glenncraig8825
    @glenncraig8825 25 дней назад +2

    Def Nick Clegg. He enabled the Eton Boys, wiped out the LibDems, supported austerity. If he’d gone with Labour, this would be a totally different country.

  • @james970027
    @james970027 28 дней назад +2

    I'm not that old (30) but i honestly feel this decline has been happening for the last half a century based on datasets and statistics on factors in healthcare and the housing market:-
    For example in 1970 you could buy the average home on the average wage in around 4.2 years salary (fully paid off) while by 2020 this had effectively doubled to 8.4 years.
    In healthcare on the other side, there has been a continuous decline in hospital bed capacity year upon year (statista for reference - cant share links on YT anymore it seems). The health of the local population appears to have been continuous devalued in the view of many politicians while we have seen an increase in people out of work and difficulties accessing NHS services.
    I'm confident there are a lot more factors involved which are clear but the point I make is that the country has not kept wages fairly in line with essential costs and those with ill health struggle more now to get support and treatments they require. When you make it so difficult to survive for many, people lose hope and stop looking after themselves which leads to a deadly combination of ill health with a system that can't effectively deal with it. Politicians in this country effectively need to bite the bullet and begin to look at balancing wages fairly in line with the cost of essentials or they can go for what economic outcome they want but the reality is businesses will continue to struggle to get quality workers, particularly with the housing crisis and pushback on reliance of foreign workers whom historically they have been able to pay less than uk minimum wage.

  • @chassidyswann8951
    @chassidyswann8951 24 дня назад +1

    What Nick Clegg did broke the trust of a lot of young people in politics and politicians.

  • @blehblehorama
    @blehblehorama 27 дней назад +2

    David Cameron is 100% at fault for everything

  • @dawnlynch6300
    @dawnlynch6300 28 дней назад +7

    Started with Thatcher in eighties then made worse since 2010

  • @dotty1774
    @dotty1774 27 дней назад +1

    Osborne has said Rachael Reeves is the heir to David Cameron and has praised her fiscal policies.

  • @robinmcara793
    @robinmcara793 28 дней назад +6

    This is all our faults. We as a nation, all stood by and watched it happen. The media enabled it all. We watched them lie every single day. Can't blame anyone else.

  • @derekwhite2929
    @derekwhite2929 28 дней назад

    Still trying to find the benefit from the infected blood stuff coming out myself, especially since having got rid of the HCV in 2017 and haven't seen any benefit from getting rid of it yet!

  • @James-ld2jc
    @James-ld2jc 27 дней назад +2

    So much of the chaos started with Thatcher

    • @jannenreuben7398
      @jannenreuben7398 25 дней назад

      No it didn't. Britain was overtaken economically by Germany in the 1870s and has been playing catchup ever since.

  • @matthewcook9404
    @matthewcook9404 28 дней назад +5

    It can’t be denied that Nigel “Man of the PayPal” Farage played a crucial role in Brexit and the UK leaving the EU. His name will forever be synonymous with the success, the year on year improvements in the quality of life, living standards, economic prosperity, health and welfare, environmental standards, and international reputation and influence of our wonderful country since Brexit. We can only thank the Lord that he wasn’t successful in getting his German / EU passport ( unlike his children, who did, via his German ex wife )and moving to Germany.

    • @raymondo6665
      @raymondo6665 28 дней назад

      Sounds like Nigel is living rent free in your headspace.

    • @JC-un4bg
      @JC-un4bg 24 дня назад

      After Brexit trades man wages actually went up

  • @effinjamieTT
    @effinjamieTT 24 дня назад +1

    At the end of the day, the Libdems enabled the Tories. It was the coalition’s policies of austerity that led to Brexit.

  • @ohtheirony7723
    @ohtheirony7723 25 дней назад +1

    The caller regarding Nick Clegg has a point but from a different perspective. The thing that broke Britain is absolute majorities, whips and spineless MPs who go with the party no matter what. Lib Dem’s had a sizeable contribution to politics as the 3rd party and were key in removing this binary 2 party chaos. But since Nick Cleggs pathetic performance, Lib Dem’s have been decimated and therefore, the polarisation and further push to total binary parties is absolute chaos. The next election, I fear a huge majority Labour Party. No healthy democracy functions with huge majorities and strict 3 line whips. We need MPs to vote with their beliefs regardless of party.

  • @OrcusMaximus
    @OrcusMaximus 27 дней назад +1

    Gordon Brown didn't contribute to bringing the country to its knees? Have we forgotten the 2008 global financial crash, of which GB was one of the main architects with his encouragement of the house price boom?

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 27 дней назад +1

    I guess James ignores the fact that even though George ruined the country Reeves fiscal rules is just a continuation of Osbornes policies.

  • @stepearceu2
    @stepearceu2 28 дней назад +2

    In a way, it's nice the incompetence and corruption has continued since Boris ran away in shame - we all have short memories and had there been even a few months of stability and tangible improvements, that may have all been forgotten and there may have been a real chance we'd have had another 4 years of the leavers who won't leave.

  • @Ukandy19
    @Ukandy19 27 дней назад +1

    Let’s not forget that O’Brien is the man who spends most of his time crying about how biased everyone else is…incredible

  • @SimonProctor
    @SimonProctor 27 дней назад +1

    On thing Nick Clegg did was give Cameron a taste for referendums with the AV referendum. And because it was a referendum for something the Lib Dems didn't want they didn't campaign that hard.
    Cameron got to see just how neat referendums could be and how some creative story telling coyld help you get the result you want.
    So arguably it led to the later Tory majority (when a bunch of Lib Dems stopped voting in disgust with the coalition) and the Brexit referendum...
    That's my argument for why Nick Clegg should be on the list.

    • @SimonProctor
      @SimonProctor 27 дней назад

      But very low down on the list.

  • @jordanwalker2804
    @jordanwalker2804 23 дня назад

    Peter Thiel - American tech CEO and venture capitalist who won the NHS IT contract.
    I feel like there was another one where the NHS were given software on the cheap/free but then the renewal cost was astronomical- as was the quote for moving everything over to a new system... Maybe it was the Thiel contract, maybe it was American healthcare... But anyone who goes into the NHS for a profit margin could justifiably go in an appendices, at the very least.

  • @andyfalcon5163
    @andyfalcon5163 27 дней назад +1

    Tony Blair, shifted Overton window by shifting Labour right of center took Britain from boom to bust and made the current tories swing far right.

  • @muaythaimarkthailand
    @muaythaimarkthailand 23 дня назад

    This is one of my favourite segments James has actually done.

  • @robertcoleman6153
    @robertcoleman6153 27 дней назад +1

    Anyone considering voting Tory needs to remember that this is not the conservative party of pre 2016. The centrists like Rory Stewart etc have been purged and what remains is something completely different. To be honest, the current labour party is nearer to what the old Tories were pre '16.

  • @PercivalBlakeney
    @PercivalBlakeney 24 дня назад +1

    "If you want better politics, you don't need better politicians… you need a better electorate."
    - Christopher Hitchens.

  • @harryfieldson
    @harryfieldson 28 дней назад +7

    The likes of Johnson and Farage obviously sicken me for what they consciously did, but they were acting in their own self interest and it's kind of in their nature. The one who really frustrates me is Jeremy Corbyn. At a time where we needed a Keir Starmer and a rock solid labour party, we had an ideologue who refused to put electability above his personal passions. To allow him to sit there ruminating on socialism whilst for years people were telling him "Dianne Abbott is a liability", "the antisemitism business NEEDS sorting out", "the general populace who aren't young adults do not want this socialist rhetoric, they want sensible social democratic liberalism and they want you to give them a reason to swing red as opposed to blue" - it makes me want to blame him for letting us continue rolling on past him down the hill, even if he wasn't the one who gave us the push to begin with. What a waste of an opportunity to stop this carnage his campaign was.

    • @ThaigressWhisperer
      @ThaigressWhisperer 28 дней назад +1

      Well said. I would only replace "frustrates" by "infuriates", but other than that, my thoughts exactly.

    • @garagenigel
      @garagenigel 28 дней назад +3

      To be fair if the client media didn't destroy Ed Miliband over a photo of him eating a bacon sandwich we probably wouldn't be in this mess now! But you are right Corbyn should have done what Starmer is doing now.....play the long game and when in power you can start talking about more socialist things!

    • @colinmack8655
      @colinmack8655 27 дней назад +1

      So you want Sir Kid Starver rather than a man of principal

    • @garagenigel
      @garagenigel 27 дней назад

      @@colinmack8655 the man of principle lost an election because he sat on his hands over Brexit!

    • @ThaigressWhisperer
      @ThaigressWhisperer 27 дней назад

      ​@@colinmack8655 You're confusing principles and dogma. Doesn't come as a surprise, given the fact that you seem only capable of conjuring a gratuitous trumpian-level insult that better suits platforms like X.

  • @FizzzieCat
    @FizzzieCat 25 дней назад +1

    I think it is the wrong question; it’s not who, but what is to blame. This isn’t one person’s fault.

  • @Kandi-Walker
    @Kandi-Walker 28 дней назад +56

    Centrists, media & Labour HQ are most to blame, for denying us a Corbyn govt that would have started the real transformation of this country desperately needed

    • @johnrussell3961
      @johnrussell3961 28 дней назад

      England are Tory. And they decide what Tories they prefer. Most seats in England will never vote for the left.

    • @manvbees
      @manvbees 28 дней назад

      To a communist regime? 😂

    • @Michael-ir5tb
      @Michael-ir5tb 28 дней назад +1

      That was a dumb comment

    • @mustrumridcully3853
      @mustrumridcully3853 28 дней назад

      Corbyn failed twice - regardless of what went on. Thatcher caused this and Corbyn wasnt the answer and wont be.

    • @turnerdali4676
      @turnerdali4676 28 дней назад +3

      Labour are responsible for the actions of the tories? Wow.

  • @ilikehorses57
    @ilikehorses57 28 дней назад +3

    Haven't watched yet but being 12 minutes long, I bet at least one person says Corbyn

  • @derekarnold3665
    @derekarnold3665 28 дней назад +15

    The solution to Britain's problem is to rejoin the Single Market.

    • @andrewelder8212
      @andrewelder8212 27 дней назад +2

      Maybe the solution, but will the EU swallow it!

  • @v-4-vendetta
    @v-4-vendetta 28 дней назад +1

    Gordon Brown who dithered and lost to Cameron who then brought about Farage, Gove, Boris and Brexit

  • @robh8814
    @robh8814 27 дней назад +1

    Clegg has an awful lot to answer for. Without Clegg then Cameron wouldn't have got in. He also wouldn't have won 2015, Brexit & the rest is history..

  • @S-Ltd1000
    @S-Ltd1000 27 дней назад +3

    Anyone mentioned Tony Blair yet? Starmer just might top that w⚓.

  • @moleyfish54
    @moleyfish54 27 дней назад

    Outstanding post today James.

  • @soviet700
    @soviet700 27 дней назад +1

    Thatcher. By a mile. Many links. James Buchanan. Edward Bernays. John Nash.

  • @ExSquaddie
    @ExSquaddie 24 дня назад

    The fathers of Thatcher, Blair, Osbourne, May, Sunak. The option to pull out was there, but they didn't.

  • @RazorMouth
    @RazorMouth 28 дней назад +8

    Labour of course, havent they been in power for the last 14 years.
    Oh wait.

    • @Dynasty1818
      @Dynasty1818 28 дней назад

      Yeah Labour did so well when the Global economy in the 90s and early 2000s (best the World has ever seen) made it so hard for them to succeed, and they didn't leave a note to the Tories to say they ran out of money. Oh wait...

  • @mrwidestrides4802
    @mrwidestrides4802 28 дней назад +3

    Free cup of sewage water if you tick conservative

    • @totalvoid6234
      @totalvoid6234 24 дня назад

      Free cup of sewage water if you tick labour too.

  • @RoofLight00
    @RoofLight00 27 дней назад +1

    Thatcher - privatisation/right to buy
    Murdoch - privatisation
    Cameron - Brexit
    Gove - Brexit
    Farage - Brexit
    Osbourne - Brexit
    May - Brexit
    DePfiffel- Brexit
    Truss - budget/crashing the pound
    Crispin odey/hedge fund billionaires/ultra rich
    Sunak - Brexit

  • @jasonsmithy6822
    @jasonsmithy6822 23 дня назад +2

    Without doubt Arthur Fowler from Eastenders

    • @terencemeikle534
      @terencemeikle534 23 дня назад

      Nah, you're barking up the wrong tree, squire. It's Roly who done it. It's him. I never trusted that poodle. Eyes too close together. 🐩

  • @djmartin5240
    @djmartin5240 28 дней назад +13

    The media

    • @danmayberry1185
      @danmayberry1185 28 дней назад

      What .. all of it?

    • @welliamd2463
      @welliamd2463 28 дней назад

      @@danmayberry1185 who is *most* to blame. Not all of it, *most* of it.

    • @AntonSmyth-od6rc
      @AntonSmyth-od6rc 28 дней назад +2

      *Meedja

    • @Dynasty1818
      @Dynasty1818 28 дней назад

      Most people get their news from social media which is a cesspool of bias and misinformation

  • @shahdrah
    @shahdrah 22 дня назад +1

    Blair! When he followed and pushed to war in Iraq and subsequently many after. Started a spiral of a wider conflict could have been avoided. Since then the “Special Relationship” and then Brexit has affected us badly and a Tory government for far too long.

  • @jamesulbot
    @jamesulbot 27 дней назад

    It'll be closer than people think

  • @user-ef4vg6kp9x
    @user-ef4vg6kp9x 28 дней назад

    It’s funny how he forgot to mention some of the radio presenters on lbc 🤫

  • @pip1723
    @pip1723 27 дней назад +1

    For me it started with Cameron and his austerity and got progressively worse .

  • @boris1066
    @boris1066 27 дней назад +1

    To blame David Davis for single handedly changed an Indicative Referendum into a legally binding vote to leave during a few moments speach in the commons !!!

  • @DJDJ-fl2nv
    @DJDJ-fl2nv 27 дней назад

    The issue on the breaking of Britain is that basically , we don’t have any effective opposition or alternative to the current establish political system, this leads to stay on the path of repugnance with the offer currently put before us...we risk as in all times in history making a stark choice, either we go with ‘what is’ regardless of its ‘same ingredients’ in different measures or as said by many, different cheeks of the same back side, or we risk going into the unknown with a coalition of independence and a hung parliament, that we take our chances on...I would rather take my chance than continue down the route that is currently mapped out for us by mainstream media and politicians..with the established ways of working, which does not serve the people, but appear to be more elitist self-service for the corrupt political class, and the ruling establishment who enjoy exponential growth in their wealth, at the cost of the many and our public services...?

  • @stephenmurray8559
    @stephenmurray8559 27 дней назад +3

    Tony Blair and Labour.

  • @rev.olution583
    @rev.olution583 27 дней назад +1

    Blimey Your not accusing Corbyn LBC wanted the Tories before Corbyn LBC have to take their share of the blame

  • @stephenjameslawley3731
    @stephenjameslawley3731 27 дней назад +2

    The human species and the British are to blame . change the system and educated the population

  • @Lezzyboy87
    @Lezzyboy87 28 дней назад

    Why does the thumbnail have an exclamation point? guy was hardly shouting

  • @jjwalker8682
    @jjwalker8682 28 дней назад +5

    I am an American, does this show have an obvious political leaning?

    • @mrbearbear83
      @mrbearbear83 28 дней назад +1

      He's a closet trump supporter

    • @dannyquinn9128
      @dannyquinn9128 28 дней назад +2

      It always has. He's never tried to hide it.
      LBC have a mix of left and right leaning presenters. For example Ferrari is openly right of centre.

    • @jamesoshogwe393
      @jamesoshogwe393 28 дней назад +1

      It's Labour

    • @susannahhunt100
      @susannahhunt100 28 дней назад +2

      Leftish, defintitely not Trump.

    • @craiggibson2062
      @craiggibson2062 28 дней назад +2

      @@mrbearbear83😂

  • @stevenovetsky3274
    @stevenovetsky3274 27 дней назад +1

    George Osborne is most responsible.

  • @timhandley7408
    @timhandley7408 22 дня назад +1

    Forgot to mention that George Osborne collected more tax revenue than anyone before him !

  • @mattyr40
    @mattyr40 21 день назад

    The medias lack of real journalism where it matters

  • @MrDeathwishVR
    @MrDeathwishVR 28 дней назад +2

    Most people who get their news from fb fully believe they are doing their research...

    • @Dynasty1818
      @Dynasty1818 28 дней назад

      Most Labour voters think Labour will turn things around and reduce all our bills, which are like 70, 80% controlled by private companies so government can't do F all about.

  • @MetalMew2
    @MetalMew2 27 дней назад

    The MP's As they've allowed gerrymandering and unfair funding before or after elections are held, it means personally that you're not allowed to make a difference in state policy, but you can complain ad nauseam while being underpaid or anti-working class and relying on fundamentally flawed policies that Public must be grateful suffering for.