Drake humanizing himself would definitely have me more interested as a hip-hop fan. But my point of disagreement with the professor is in tying it back to the beef. He needs to distance himself from it but can probably throw a few bars acknowledging its aftermath and toll on him even while dismissing its validity. All of this, however, assumes a level of self-awareness that im not sure permeates the bubble of his stans and OVO yes men that accompany him.
I think you are over looking that a Key part of MBDTF is Kanye had friends from all over the industry helping him out, everybody from Elton John and RZA. Drake apparently only has the OVO Sweatshop and Lil Yachty right now.
Plus, Kanye is/was a waaay better curator. That is or was Kanye's biggest strength, his encyclopedic knowledge of sounds and genres, esp. soul music and EDM.
@@jf1573kanye's generally a way better creator than drake in every way, even his attempt to insert himself in his like that remix had a beat that sounded like it came from like an ace combat boss fight or something.
I think we also need to consider that there has been no real evolution seen in Drake as of yet. I mean he is 37 years old, and has been doing his thing for like 15 years. Meaning his core fans started this journey with him when they were - what, 13-15 years old? They will be 28-30 (and older) now. Most of his core fans are married, divorced, parents, single parents, successful & failed business people, etc. by now cause real life does happen. Drake to me, is like that childhood friend, who in his late 30s early 40s still wanting to meet up to do stuff we used to do in the hood as teenagers. C'mon bro! 😂 So since he can't hang with his mates any more, he'll go make new younger friends, and start hanging with Lil Yachty (who is 26) and young girls, to pacify his new but much younger fans. Just grow up, evolve and do you. What else does he really have to prove to anyone at this point? Maybe the gambling addiction is something he should look into. 🤷🏾♂️
Drake must go back to his roots. I mean there was a missed opportunity for Drake here. The opportunity for him to show what Canada really is like sonically. Cause I have always wondered what Canada Contemporary music really is like. Just as Wizkid, Burna Boy, Davido, Fireboy FML, Kizz Daniel, etc. All these Nigerian artists put Nigeria on through Afrobeats. People understand Nigerian lingo now, the culture, the food, and lifestyle. Drake should taken Lil Wayne's advice to just be himself instead of doing American 100%.
So my wife has her car radio always set to this station that plays all genres of music, but ever since Kendrick dropped "Not Like Us," this radio station went from playing little to no Drake to playing literally all of the hits Drake performed. They're playing hits from "So Far Gone" to "For the Dogs." This manipulation of spins is an aspect of this battle that I feel doesn't happen in "Not Like Us" and doesn't reach NO.1 on the Billboard Hot 100.
@@TheCompanyMan I think it is 101.1 or 101.8 in NC. My wife and I are musicians, so we talked about how the battle is a clear indicator of knowing what the culture wants vs. thinking what you think the culture needs.
Our past does not define who we are. Don't mind the ''winner'', but if Drake authentically humanises, that would be good for him, for the culture and for humanity as a whole. peace
How do you bounce back from someone calling you a colonizer and you don't actually have the talent to support 'YOUR' true sound? He is in heavy debt to the industry, and someone just exposed you for what you truly are as an artist and as a man. The 85% may accept his music like they did R. Kelly after the controversy but even R. Kelly had the talent to rise above. I don't think Drake has a true audience outside of the 25 and below crowd. He spent 3 albums calling black women,his core audience, everything but human since Certified Loverboy.
He bounced back from Pusha T with Scorpion…and the singles on it (God’s Plan and In My Feelings). I think he can drop singles it’s just that Kendrick may step on it
@superdupeninja8149 brother public perception is very strong in this case. If anything turns out to be true from Meet The Grahams or Not Like Us with his association with chomos, Drake is done. The fact that he never sued, for a petty guy that he is, shows that there is fire behind the smoke of these accusations.
@@superdupeninja8149 it’s even sad this sentiment didn’t happen with Story of Addison cuz Push came at the character of Drake as well. People only wanna listen when someone more popular says the stuff though.
If I was Drake's advisor.... "Step One: Get Some Damn Therapy." "Step Two: Back a Local Toronto Rapper. Make sure they're legit in whatever they rap about and they have bars. Put all your remaining weight and resources behind him." "Step Three: Don't fuck his woman." "Step Four: Drop some fire hooks on his project. Take the background. " He can gain most of his wave back.
I don’t agree. He can’t just decide to humanize himself and pull an 8-Mile. That worked in THAT movie. It won’t work because: 1) People don’t need to be reminded of the beef and what was said about him. 2)Him agreeing makes him look super weak and soft. Hip-hop is a genre about vibrato. 3) Additionally, word through the grapevine is that Drake under an agreement to not even mention the beef with Kendrick again, without facing consequences. His course of action should be: 1) Stay quiet through the summer. Come back this autumn or winter. 2) Feature on up and coming artist’s project and make club bangers with them. 3) Have his own project ready to release a few weeks after that. Any address to the insults from the beef should be minimized to one line here or there spread out over the album. (DO NOT explain yourself, Drake) This will allow people time to have the “Drake Deconstructed” to simmer down. Also, people can’t resist a new club banger.
Honestly, I’m glad that you even listed possible ways for him to somewhat come back from this at any kind of capacity, because the only vibe I’ve been getting is, “Drake is a roast duck no matter what he does” and it’s kind of depressing to hear. Like, some people are just forbidden from forgiveness, I guess. I would love a Drake Redemption story. Imagine how epic that would be, going from most hated to redeemed. You could make a movie out of that!
Longtime fan of Justin and fan of Skye since his Mr. Morale vid. But I would love to see more collaborations bc I feel like these are two of the most honest and knowledgeable people I've seen on RUclips
The problem is the line thats been drawn. Drake cant come back from this. You have to understand hes going under investigation by the Feds and Canadian police which is way more important than record. 2nd he has been outed as a creep. 3rd if he says anything about Kendrick, Kendrick will finish him. Also Rihanna and Kendrick have something in the tuck lol..
Thank you for saying this because I felt insane watching the video. They're speculating on how Drake can come back from this when there's a track record of him using his money, power, and fame to groom young girls. Why tf would we want him to come back? So he can keep preying on them? You've got to be fucking kidding me.
Wait what do you mean Kendrick and Rihanna have somerhing in the tuck? Its funny you said this because I was thinking as a joke it would be funny if Kendrick ghostwrote a diss track for Rihanna and let her just say what she wants to say about Drake. He already wrote a rap for her when they did Loyalty years ago. But please explain what you mean?
@@jayjohnson5346 i hate name dropping but one of my bestfriends engineers for Key Glock and Tyler. Mainly Glock tho. He lives in LA. He told me Rihanna and Kendrick 100% have a song together however he doesnt know for sure if its gonna make the album. He went on to say they are genuinely very very good friends and Dot respects her and her marriage soo much which Drake doesnt which is key. She feels like he brought her family into this for no reason. They also have amazing chemistry as we all know. He then said the song is kinda a part 2 to loyalty and isnt heavy on Kendrick dissing Drake. Its more so Rihanna. He didnt say what exactly she said but the 2 things that stuck out to me was a) Rihanna makes different points to Kenny because shes witnessed Drake 1st hand and was with him. She also knows way more than we know in regards to his relationships with women b) kenny was the nail in the coffin, rihanna reading him his eulogy and lowering the coffin. The fact its Rihanna saying this is actually what ends Drake..
He’s gonna have to release Take Care 2😂 but first and foremost he has to go behind the scenes and try making amends with the artists he’s wronged throughout the years.
Honestly, I dont think Drake should come with a approach of self loathing or trying to make people feel sorry for him. Thats gonna make the people that dont like him clown him even more and make his true fans lose respect. The true solution is just making good music for his already loyal fans. Him pandering to people that dont like him will only lead to humiliation
Ha! I should've thought about the headline a little deeper I guess. We were thinking what drake should do to rehabilitate his cultural image. Thanks hilarious tho!!
Is it just me or was Kendrick using a Sugafree style flow on Not Like Us? As for Drake I don't think his ego will let him open up in song form. Never thought of him as an emo rapper as like Slug is but I can see it now. If Drake was creative and not a corporate product, he could lean into the villain role ala MF DOOM.
Im not a fan, but if Drake stays in the Passionfruit / Hold On lane, he might could continue to have a long fruit[y]ful career. But, if the alleged accusations are true, its a wrap. My teen daughter is a fan, but i caught her singing BBL Drizzy under her breathe the other day. 😏
Nah, this sounds good on paper, he does that and all they’re gonna do is say “aha Kendrick beat him so bad that he got him doing therapy in his records blah blah blah”. Drake’s fanbase is not gonna like that, and the ones who already do not like him aren’t going to change their minds about him even if he does, and if they do I think it’ll be a remnant or the minority. This may be less of what Drake “needs” to do and more of what some people would “like” for him to do.
I think he needs to do what Kendrick normally does, go away for a few years. I don’t think he can just bounce back, I think he needs to make us miss him. Then when people start being like damn where’s Drake, do an exciting feature run then drop an album.
Well, absence does make the heart grow fonder, but something tells me his absence will read as a win for Hip Hop in a lot of people’s eyes. Like, “We did it! We, the people, purged Hip Hop of the cancer that is Drake!” It seems people want nothing more than for Drake to leave and stay gone.
I said that Meet The Grahams came off more empathetic than a diss and that's what makes it hard to listen to...a human, not a rapper, who has been placed at the top of success in Hip Hop being fully broken down, examined, and approached from a psychological pov while addressing the issues that may lie within to his family. Its insane~
Some of the specifics are off, but this was basically my argument. He needs a huge mea culpa, epiphany transition for his rap...followed by grabbing Lupe and some battle rappers to jump Kendrick 😂😂
I can't believe Drake didn't mention Lupe ONE TIME in his bars. You really wanna get at Kendrick, that's how you do it in a way that divides fans of lyricism.
@@TheCompanyMan yeah I thought you made some good points about angles of attack against Kendrick that he could have focused on. But it speaks to the fact that Kendrick has carefully studied Drake, his past battles and his life overall...But Drake really didn't look nearly as deeply as he should have. Considering how fragile and giant his ego is, I think he might try to get back. And yeah you definitely need a Lupe for that kind of assault
Nah, similarities in the space they occupy in hip hop and the fact that lupe's been hyper critical of kendrick. I mentioned angles in my heart part 6 reaction.
@@jayjohnson5346 Drake could have used the »biting« angle against Kendrick. Lupe implied more than once that Kendrick stole his image and his »style«, e.g. the Kung-Fu fighting stuff etc. … Nas did it perfectly against Jay-Z in Ether: He painted Jay as a fan-boy of Biggie and himself (Nas) and it stuck.
Kendrick definitely won. But the only way you could possibly say that Drake had a chance is the fact that people were already giving Kendrick props after the Like That verse. People gave Kendrick his trophy before the disses even started. So that’s the only way you could make an argument. Other than THAT, it’s Kendrick all the way.
As a Kendrick Lamar fan that's cap. Niggas was not confident Kendrick could keep up with Drake. Drake did Push-ups, and Taylor Made Freestyle and Kendrick was getting cooked for 16 days then once he dropped Euphoria. Most fans were saying it was over imo that all I remember seeing on social media
Gotta disagree with this. Most people were saying that it was over after Taylor Made and Push-ups dropped back to back. People counted Kendrick out from the jump, but he ain't Meek Mill. And that's what people forgot.
@@dafreako95as a Kdot fan I had him winning from the start but didn't know how he was going to do it. Definitely thought Drake "red button" would have been a pop hit after 6:16. Not a lame car trip video of him crushing a similar van and poor bars.
@@dafreako95Everyone always says that they’re a fan of someone before disagreeing with the topic. “As a fan of Christ himself, I doubted him when Satan met with him in the dessert, I doubted he could last the 40 days.” You don’t need to lie. Everyone was giving Kenny props WAY BEFORE the disses started. That’s why Cole dropped 7 minute drill, everyone was begging for a response from both him and Drizzy. And once he dropped, everyone said it was weak. There’s proof of this all in the comment threads and reaction channels on RUclips. The “17” days, not “16” were just a waiting period. Everyone was saying that he MIGHT lose if he doesn’t respond. But they were already talking about him being the winner if he did respond. And once he did, they declared him winner. Euphoria could’ve been out on its own without MTG and NLU and everyone would’ve said he won. This is just facts. Don’t believe me? Look at social media like you mentioned.
@@Seoul_SoldierNa. They didn’t. Everyone was handing him his medals after Like That. Hence why Cole said in his apology that the world and his boys were looking at him like “What you gonna do?!” There was pressure there because if he DIDN’T respond, he’d be seen as the loser. Once he did respond, everyone shat on it and said it was mid. Why did they do that? Because in THEIR EYES, Kendrick already won. Now for Drake, he came in strong, everybody liked it, but a lot of people said it was because Kendrick DIDN’T respond yet. Everyone claimed that if he DID respond, he’d be the winner. Once he did respond, he was declared winner. I love Kendrick and I can say he won. I did in my first comment. But I’m not going to sit here and pretend that bias wasn’t existing during this whole feud.
I could actually see that working, especially for his core fans who are spiraling a bit. The only thing is…doesn’t Kendrick fire off another diss track then?
Drake coming back 1. Dont say the N word no more. 2. D- Dont R- Rap A - Against K - Kendrick E - Ever 3. Celebrity doesnt mean integrity 4. What is it the braids! 5. Stop colonizing Atlanta or any southern city, keep away from St. Louis. 6. Hey Drake, i hear you like them young? Stop collabing with young artists. 7. Stop sneak dissing and stop dissing exes and women who dont want you no more. Attacking women shows you have poor character. In all honesty. The best thing Drake can do is mature and grow musically but i dont think he is capable of that because that would ask him to also grow and mature personally.
I wonder how much of Kendrick’s point about Drake not wanting to speak on black issues and the black experience is due to the Eminem effect you spoke on when he released that freestyle going against trump, and his album sales after that plummeted. Drake, like Eminem gets a lot of play in middle America. It’s a business decision. He knows saying anything pro black risks alienating those people that are Drake fans, not hip hop fans.
I'm truly of the mind that Drake is done. His career has already dragged on far to long to start.. He hasn't elevated his game whatsoever, he still markets his music to kids as a near 40 year old. It's too late.. his time has come and gone.. and i don't want to listen to someone who made out with a 17 year old in stage and told her how good her breasts feel.. Drake is finished in my opinion and i don't want to see a comeback from him anymore then I want to see LeBron James play another season in the NBA.
The difference between Kanye and Drake is Kanye has never denied himself being a flawed human being as egotistical as he is. When we listen to Kanye we know its Kanye speaking from the heart. As controversial as he is. He's at the very least consistent with who he is as a human being, ghostwriting or not. Drake on the other hand is an actor. Thats just what it is. There's no sense of authenticity within his character. His worst qualities have always been there, its just he's been able to get away with it for so long he's gone overboard, lost in the sauce as gucci mane would say. Who is he even at this point of time. His whole mythos is based off streaming records and trends of the year. We don't know anything about the real human being and its because it's probably not that interesting. The character of drake he portrays is shallow as it is. What deep layers of himself can he even show this deep into his career without exposing himself as a complete fraudulent?
In pro wrestling, when a wrestler falls out of public favor, the most frequently used route that the promotion's booker takes is to turn that now disliked wrestler "heel" (bad guy). So if Drake can pivot into more of an honest bad guy, i.e. Hollywood Hulk Hogan going bad with NWO, maybe it could give him a new career entirely. His gullible fanbase would certainly eat it right up at least.
This is crazy! What ever happened to just making good music. That's how any Hip Hop artist should bounce back form taking an L. Chris Brown moon walked at the BET awards & all was forgiven. Remind people why they f'd with him in the first place. Drake needs to find that Blackberry that he lost on vacation 15 years ago, & go back to work.😂 FYI, I haven't listened to Drake since "Writer's gate" 😂
@ 4:20 Drake embodying that he's a piece of garbage in a way that he can continue being a piece of garbage... is him making a simp anthem out of BBL Drizzy w/ Sexxy Red. Surprisingly King Willonious (aka Avocado Papi) has yet to issue a cease & desist for creating the beat. Though its a trolling of Metro Boomin (akla Metro Groomin)...the BBL Drizzy remake falls flat in the grand scheme because it proves Kendrick right in numerous ways.
This is the rosiest way to talk about Drake. He has NO CULTURAL weight. None… Kendrick stripped him of his preconceived value to Hip Hop. Dude is DONE on a certain level. He can’t rise to the level that the Professor is saying he’d have too. 😂 Drakes pen has never been deep. It’s ALWAYS been surface
AGE OF AQUARIUS! Human Consciousness is elevating/evolving. Drake gotta find a way to uniquely represent himself but I think he just too corny to do it.
So, all the pdf accusations were just made up? Because why do we want him to bounce back if those things are true? I’d like to get to the bottom of all of that before hearing another song from Drake. I thought he’d at least sue for defamation since he likes using his legal team for Cease and Desists so much,
5:39 Drake - Meet The Grahams is such a brilliant idea, I agree 100% but Drake declared that he loves satan so I doubt he has the capacity to take such advice
@@TheCompanyMan Kendrick knew what he was doing with references like "You can't say the n-word," "colonizer," and "culture vulture." While not all his diss songs were about race, these references are indirectly or directly.
Drake could make a come back if he’s sticks to rnb. Maybe. It’s lookin bad. I used to be a Drake fan when he first came out but the last 10 years or so not so much.
last one I don't think drake can pull an Eminem I am basically white, I am a culture stealing bum I do live in a trailer with your mom My boy OVO is an Uncle Kells I do got a dumb security guard named Cheddar Bob Who shoots himself in his leg with his own gun I did YELL AT all six of you hotel chumps And EbonyPrince2K24 did steal my bag I'm still standin' here screaming, "Fck the Free World!" i honestly had like 5 more ez bars but ovhoe i got to go.
Drake doesn’t need to “come back” from this. He is pop now. He has his dedicated followers who will prop him up no matter what. Look what happened with Pusha. If that happened in the 90’s it would be a death sentence but it didn’t stop him then, and this won’t stop him now
Most folks don’t even know who clipse is and barely know Pusha. That’s how he skate. The non-rap fans don’t know. The non-rap fans know Kendrick. Ain’t no stepping out of this one. Can’t Bel Biv Devoe his way out of this one.
Kendrick is not pusha my guy. Kendrick actually has notoriety, crazy numbers and accolades to dethrone drake. Pusha doesn’t have nearly as much influence
@@757reaperJust to be clear, I’m in no way caping for Drake. It’s just how the younger generation views these things. Got 2 nephews and a niece who agree that Kendrick won but that won’t stop them from listening to Drake
@@davidawonaike1188Fair enough but believe me when I say the younger generation doesn’t care about that as much as we do. I don’t like Drake but I swear the kids will keep streaming. It’s frustrating but reality
@@TatendaZiyambi sorry if it came off like I was insinuate you caping. I was just speaking on the difference and the range of impact. Like T. Swift is openly a Kendrick fan. They do have cross over audience to some extent.
Not that I want to see Drake 'bounce back' (I don't), but I agree this approach is exactly right from a branding/image perspective. His only real way out of the whole situation is to address it in a meaningful way, and spin it to his advantage as best he can. But he has to go through the fire, face his demons, come out the other end, and deftly maneuver through the entire process for that to work. If history is any indication, Drake simply doesn't have the emotional maturity or ability to introspect that would require. As Kendrick laid bare, Drake doesn't actually know who he is. That's why his music is so vapid and stuck in a period of his life that's long passed. He's lost in the character of Drake, and his ego is too big to allow any real growth at this point. (Although, if he actually took Kendrick's advice and attended an ayahuasca ceremony to "strip [his] ego from the bottom", the results could be shockingly positive...) Barring Drake actually reflecting/growing (which is doubtful), probably the only way to get him to make the "right" PR moves to spin this situation beneficially for himself, would be to have someone at UMG (or someone who otherwise has enough leverage and influence) convince him that the steps outlined in this video are his idea, and play to his ego. Literally write the lyrics for him, have him perform them, and convince him it's gonna "get Kendrick back" and "put him back on top". How I actually see this playing out though is: he releases a 'summer vibes' album, as he's indicated. It's mostly chill sing-songy stuff (like Daddy Kendrick told him to do), but his spin is that this was his plan all along. The general public, who is only vaguely aware of the details of this whole beef, eat it up. The album does just fine. Maybe not as great as it would have otherwise, but serviceable at the very least. Maybe his reputation within the industry is damaged to the point that he can't get hot features any more, and/or younger artists no longer see a Drake feature as a desirable co-sign. Maybe his influence and sales taper off with each subsequent release and he slowly fades away. Or maybe people really do have such short attention spans and the 24/7 news cycle is so numbing that he can just fully bounce back by doing what he's always done. I wouldn't be surprised. Plus, UMG has unlimited money to throw at this problem. That will probably solve it eventually. I believe Kendrick's approach of trying to tarnish Drake's image in the industry to cut off his ability to trend hop and leech for perpetual relevance was correct, I just don't know if it will ultimately succeed. A lot of it probably depends on how well all of these allegations stick, and what other dirty details come to light. Kendrick doesn't strike me as the type of person to put his own reputation on the line for completely unfounded gossip, so I'm guessing he knows things we don't, and is playing the long game waiting for it all to surface. I certainly hope it does though. Drake doesn't have anything of value to contribute to the music industry or culture at large, and they'd be better off without his influence. He should retire to Turks, have a nice long life, and pop up on a feature every now and then if he wants. I'm sure people would tolerate him in small doses as they're reminded of the good old 2010s when he was on top of the world. (Of course his ego will never allow that, and it'll ultimately be his downfall.) Last note: it would be hysterically bittersweet if this whole beef at least tarnishes Drake's image enough that he's unable to get the last #1 he needs to top Michael Jackson's record (and he's forever stuck tied for the record). That would eat his ego alive for the rest of his life.
I think you're looking at it the wrong way. Drake has been quantity over quality for more than half a decade now. He hasn't had anything to say since Nothing was the Same and even then a lot of it was inauthentic. If he doesn't find his real voice and actually put something into his music he will continue to be seen as just a pop entertainer that raps
I hope somebody addresses all the gatekeeping that's been happening since Not Like Us dropped. All the culture vulture talk is out of control...and I'm not just talking about Drake. I know it's a sensitive topic, but the fact is HipHop is now too big to police. I really don't think it's going to be possible - or good for that matter - to tell other races, nationalities and ethnicities that they don't belong in HipHop
That's not the message of the song, though I can see some outsiders running with that narrative. But specifically, what kind of gate keeping are you referring to and why is it a bad think its good for hip hop to gatekeep?
@@TheCompanyMan I love the song and I love Kendrick - I'm not saying it's the message of the song, but ppl are interpreting it that way. It's not too difficult to find vids on RUclips, TikTok etc that are advocating for HipHop to be an all, and ONLY, black American genre. RUclips especially was flooded with those kinds of vids. This isn't anything new but it's just a little more vocal now. I'm just saying it's a very slippery slope. Just as an example of what I'm talking about - I wouldn't be surprised if there would be ppl saying that Professor Skye needs to know his place and that his opinion doesn't matter because he's white. I understand the desire to protect the genre, but I'm just concerned that the focus is going to be on things like skin color and geography instead of a love and deep knowledge of the art. Hope I cleared that up. As someone who fell in love with HipHop over 30 years ago I just want to make it clear that I understand that it's a music genre that originates from African Americans, but ppl saying that only African Americans can be a part of all aspects - rapping, journalism, producing, record labels etc - is detramental to the genre.
Professor Skye's already received comments like that, which I think he briefly alludes to in this conversation if I'm not mistaken. But his respect for the culture oozes innately in his conversation and perspective. Like Rakim says, it ain't where you from, it's where you're at and there are a number of people of all races who treat hip hop like some sort of anthropology experiment or some cash cow that can be pimped on their way to the promised land. But take for example other forms of black music that were completely co-opted. Rock, for example. Jazz, for example. Country, probably the biggest example. Country music has spent decades limiting the reach of black country artists because no one is alive anymore who remembers that it was another genre started by black people. The black community understands that and that's about it. That's why Lil Nas X caught so much blow back or Beyonce all those years with country songs on her albums that the country committee at the recording academy wouldn't recognize. It's a genre that was co-opted by outsiders who intensely gate keep who's allowed in the inner circle to this day. With that in mind, what's the slippery slope of hip hop gate keeping the culture?
@@TheCompanyManyes, I completely agree with every single thing you said here. I guess what I’m trying to articulate is that the housekeeping needs to start at the very top if at all possible. Even though there are black label owners they are still under giant conglomerates:Sony, UMG, Warner. Maybe more independent labels need to pop up? I just feel like it’s not really fair that artists pay for the sins of the puppeteers. Not sure if Drake is a culture vulture, but it’s also not for me to say. I just listen to so many different hiphop platforms and it’s been a running theme for years now to start gatekeeping the genre. And when they’re talking about keeping ppl out, they’re talking about all ppl who aren’t black Americans. So when the finger is pointing at everyone who is not African American it concerns me. That’s what I mean by a slippery slope. For some reason Eminem has been a favorite target for years and I think that’s crazy because I can’t think of anyone in HipHop that shows more love and respect to the genre and the ppl in it. Like you said, it should be about respect.
It is the bars and better pen, that is how he won in my eyes. He was never gonna win in the public eye, it is like going against Taylor Swift, you are not gonna win they are both media darlings. The surprising part was the streams but then even with that, people hate Drake more lol. Kendrick won because most people say he won.
Do you have ears? The reason Kdot won isn't because people are just saying he won just to say it, that's delusional. Kdot put out the better diss. Family Matters was a weak diss. Drake focused his energy to try and diss everyone once again to put the narrative that it's 1 v 20 when it was clearly was just Drake and Kdot. The Heart 6 was another terrible diss and finally a track that just focused on Kdot but it was a defensive diss track?🤣 If you like BBL Drizzy and thought he won because you just like him more that's fine but you're also just a sore loser.
i see Company Man & The Professor -- i click immediately .. in my opinion, as a rapper, these are the best Hiphop PR team you could ever have, for free
If Drake releases an album titled "Aubrey" where he's just Aubrey, Prof Skye defo gonna love it.
Drake humanizing himself would definitely have me more interested as a hip-hop fan.
But my point of disagreement with the professor is in tying it back to the beef. He needs to distance himself from it but can probably throw a few bars acknowledging its aftermath and toll on him even while dismissing its validity.
All of this, however, assumes a level of self-awareness that im not sure permeates the bubble of his stans and OVO yes men that accompany him.
Agreed, I think addressing the beef would neutralize the humanizing approach too
I agree, man, I agree... I guess the professor couldn't get the battle out of his equation
I think you are over looking that a Key part of MBDTF is Kanye had friends from all over the industry helping him out, everybody from Elton John and RZA. Drake apparently only has the OVO Sweatshop and Lil Yachty right now.
Interesting point. Skye agrees it's a hard window to creep through. We'll see where drake takes it. He'll be fine ultimately in my opinion.
Plus, Kanye is/was a waaay better curator. That is or was Kanye's biggest strength, his encyclopedic knowledge of sounds and genres, esp. soul music and EDM.
@@jf1573kanye's generally a way better creator than drake in every way, even his attempt to insert himself in his like that remix had a beat that sounded like it came from like an ace combat boss fight or something.
So, if I understood correctly, Drake now stands for:
Drake's
Rehabilitation
After
Kendrick
Evisceration
Got it, thanks guys!
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I think we also need to consider that there has been no real evolution seen in Drake as of yet.
I mean he is 37 years old, and has been doing his thing for like 15 years. Meaning his core fans started this journey with him when they were - what, 13-15 years old? They will be 28-30 (and older) now.
Most of his core fans are married, divorced, parents, single parents, successful & failed business people, etc. by now cause real life does happen.
Drake to me, is like that childhood friend, who in his late 30s early 40s still wanting to meet up to do stuff we used to do in the hood as teenagers. C'mon bro! 😂
So since he can't hang with his mates any more, he'll go make new younger friends, and start hanging with Lil Yachty (who is 26) and young girls, to pacify his new but much younger fans.
Just grow up, evolve and do you. What else does he really have to prove to anyone at this point? Maybe the gambling addiction is something he should look into. 🤷🏾♂️
Drake must go back to his roots. I mean there was a missed opportunity for Drake here.
The opportunity for him to show what Canada really is like sonically. Cause I have always wondered what Canada Contemporary music really is like.
Just as Wizkid, Burna Boy, Davido, Fireboy FML, Kizz Daniel, etc. All these Nigerian artists put Nigeria on through Afrobeats. People understand Nigerian lingo now, the culture, the food, and lifestyle.
Drake should taken Lil Wayne's advice to just be himself instead of doing American 100%.
Visiting this comment from the future. I think "Wah Gwan Deliliah" was a failed attempt at this suggestion.
So my wife has her car radio always set to this station that plays all genres of music, but ever since Kendrick dropped "Not Like Us," this radio station went from playing little to no Drake to playing literally all of the hits Drake performed. They're playing hits from "So Far Gone" to "For the Dogs." This manipulation of spins is an aspect of this battle that I feel doesn't happen in "Not Like Us" and doesn't reach NO.1 on the Billboard Hot 100.
That's so wild. What's the name of the station?
@@TheCompanyMan I think it is 101.1 or 101.8 in NC. My wife and I are musicians, so we talked about how the battle is a clear indicator of knowing what the culture wants vs. thinking what you think the culture needs.
UMG is fighting for Drake.
@@elijahhenderson3505 Well, it's also an indication of damage control by Universal Music Group (UMG). They clearly pay for air time. Don't they?
We dont want Drake to 'bounce back'. He is not good for the culture. Kendrick has allowed us to 'Destroy and Rebuild'
I mean.... you know.... actually.... you know what... I'm cool with everything you said. It's all happening.
Our past does not define who we are. Don't mind the ''winner'', but if Drake authentically humanises, that would be good for him, for the culture and for humanity as a whole. peace
Drake helped put Kendrick on. Drake has actually done more for the culture than most of his peers.
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Damn, Drake is gonna need 100 Ghost writers to pull that off or Kendrick
He needs more than a trillion ghost writers. Kendrick isn't one to fuck with.
Y'all don't remember the Control verse he blessed us with!?
@@Deezy07get of your knees 😂😂
How do you bounce back from someone calling you a colonizer and you don't actually have the talent to support 'YOUR' true sound? He is in heavy debt to the industry, and someone just exposed you for what you truly are as an artist and as a man. The 85% may accept his music like they did R. Kelly after the controversy but even R. Kelly had the talent to rise above. I don't think Drake has a true audience outside of the 25 and below crowd. He spent 3 albums calling black women,his core audience, everything but human since Certified Loverboy.
And he's slowly lost that crowd. Yeah, pretty near impossible to comeback from all of that.
You mean since Scorpion honestly. Jaded? Ratchet Happy Birthday? “Don’t make me send you back to the hood.” Cmon now 🤨
He bounced back from Pusha T with Scorpion…and the singles on it (God’s Plan and In My Feelings). I think he can drop singles it’s just that Kendrick may step on it
@superdupeninja8149 brother public perception is very strong in this case. If anything turns out to be true from Meet The Grahams or Not Like Us with his association with chomos, Drake is done. The fact that he never sued, for a petty guy that he is, shows that there is fire behind the smoke of these accusations.
@@superdupeninja8149 it’s even sad this sentiment didn’t happen with Story of Addison cuz Push came at the character of Drake as well. People only wanna listen when someone more popular says the stuff though.
If I was Drake's advisor....
"Step One: Get Some Damn Therapy."
"Step Two: Back a Local Toronto Rapper. Make sure they're legit in whatever they rap about and they have bars. Put all your remaining weight and resources behind him."
"Step Three: Don't fuck his woman."
"Step Four: Drop some fire hooks on his project. Take the background. "
He can gain most of his wave back.
I don’t agree. He can’t just decide to humanize himself and pull an 8-Mile. That worked in THAT movie. It won’t work because:
1) People don’t need to be reminded of the beef and what was said about him.
2)Him agreeing makes him look super weak and soft. Hip-hop is a genre about vibrato.
3) Additionally, word through the grapevine is that Drake under an agreement to not even mention the beef with Kendrick again, without facing consequences.
His course of action should be:
1) Stay quiet through the summer. Come back this autumn or winter.
2) Feature on up and coming artist’s project and make club bangers with them.
3) Have his own project ready to release a few weeks after that. Any address to the insults from the beef should be minimized to one line here or there spread out over the album. (DO NOT explain yourself, Drake)
This will allow people time to have the “Drake Deconstructed” to simmer down. Also, people can’t resist a new club banger.
Honestly, I’m glad that you even listed possible ways for him to somewhat come back from this at any kind of capacity, because the only vibe I’ve been getting is, “Drake is a roast duck no matter what he does” and it’s kind of depressing to hear. Like, some people are just forbidden from forgiveness, I guess. I would love a Drake Redemption story. Imagine how epic that would be, going from most hated to redeemed. You could make a movie out of that!
Longtime fan of Justin and fan of Skye since his Mr. Morale vid. But I would love to see more collaborations bc I feel like these are two of the most honest and knowledgeable people I've seen on RUclips
I think we should too. I really enjoyed this. Collabing more is on my resolutions list for 2024.
I will collaborate with Justin in this comment section just to show how serious we are about collaborating more! :)
The problem is the line thats been drawn. Drake cant come back from this. You have to understand hes going under investigation by the Feds and Canadian police which is way more important than record. 2nd he has been outed as a creep. 3rd if he says anything about Kendrick, Kendrick will finish him. Also Rihanna and Kendrick have something in the tuck lol..
Thank you for saying this because I felt insane watching the video. They're speculating on how Drake can come back from this when there's a track record of him using his money, power, and fame to groom young girls. Why tf would we want him to come back? So he can keep preying on them? You've got to be fucking kidding me.
Wait what do you mean Kendrick and Rihanna have somerhing in the tuck? Its funny you said this because I was thinking as a joke it would be funny if Kendrick ghostwrote a diss track for Rihanna and let her just say what she wants to say about Drake.
He already wrote a rap for her when they did Loyalty years ago. But please explain what you mean?
@@jayjohnson5346 i hate name dropping but one of my bestfriends engineers for Key Glock and Tyler. Mainly Glock tho. He lives in LA. He told me Rihanna and Kendrick 100% have a song together however he doesnt know for sure if its gonna make the album. He went on to say they are genuinely very very good friends and Dot respects her and her marriage soo much which Drake doesnt which is key. She feels like he brought her family into this for no reason. They also have amazing chemistry as we all know. He then said the song is kinda a part 2 to loyalty and isnt heavy on Kendrick dissing Drake. Its more so Rihanna. He didnt say what exactly she said but the 2 things that stuck out to me was a) Rihanna makes different points to Kenny because shes witnessed Drake 1st hand and was with him. She also knows way more than we know in regards to his relationships with women b) kenny was the nail in the coffin, rihanna reading him his eulogy and lowering the coffin. The fact its Rihanna saying this is actually what ends Drake..
@@jayjohnson5346 did what i say post
@@SurprisedBus-bw4wd No i didnt see a new post
He’s gonna have to release Take Care 2😂 but first and foremost he has to go behind the scenes and try making amends with the artists he’s wronged throughout the years.
Honestly, I dont think Drake should come with a approach of self loathing or trying to make people feel sorry for him. Thats gonna make the people that dont like him clown him even more and make his true fans lose respect. The true solution is just making good music for his already loyal fans. Him pandering to people that dont like him will only lead to humiliation
I'm all for prison reform but rn not about that rehabilitation vibe for pdfer
Ha! I should've thought about the headline a little deeper I guess. We were thinking what drake should do to rehabilitate his cultural image. Thanks hilarious tho!!
Yo for a moment I was like… did I comment and forget😭 also I agree
Is it just me or was Kendrick using a Sugafree style flow on Not Like Us? As for Drake I don't think his ego will let him open up in song form. Never thought of him as an emo rapper as like Slug is but I can see it now. If Drake was creative and not a corporate product, he could lean into the villain role ala MF DOOM.
That would be so cool. What do you think his moniker would be?
Im not a fan, but if Drake stays in the Passionfruit / Hold On lane, he might could continue to have a long fruit[y]ful career.
But, if the alleged accusations are true, its a wrap.
My teen daughter is a fan, but i caught her singing BBL Drizzy under her breathe the other day. 😏
Nah, this sounds good on paper, he does that and all they’re gonna do is say “aha Kendrick beat him so bad that he got him doing therapy in his records blah blah blah”. Drake’s fanbase is not gonna like that, and the ones who already do not like him aren’t going to change their minds about him even if he does, and if they do I think it’ll be a remnant or the minority. This may be less of what Drake “needs” to do and more of what some people would “like” for him to do.
I think he needs to do what Kendrick normally does, go away for a few years. I don’t think he can just bounce back, I think he needs to make us miss him. Then when people start being like damn where’s Drake, do an exciting feature run then drop an album.
It would be lowkey hilarious if he did this and Kendrick started dropping summer pop bangers just to spite him
Well, absence does make the heart grow fonder, but something tells me his absence will read as a win for Hip Hop in a lot of people’s eyes. Like, “We did it! We, the people, purged Hip Hop of the cancer that is Drake!” It seems people want nothing more than for Drake to leave and stay gone.
Y'all need to send the invoice to OV-HOE
I said that Meet The Grahams came off more empathetic than a diss and that's what makes it hard to listen to...a human, not a rapper, who has been placed at the top of success in Hip Hop being fully broken down, examined, and approached from a psychological pov while addressing the issues that may lie within to his family. Its insane~
Some of the specifics are off, but this was basically my argument. He needs a huge mea culpa, epiphany transition for his rap...followed by grabbing Lupe and some battle rappers to jump Kendrick 😂😂
I can't believe Drake didn't mention Lupe ONE TIME in his bars. You really wanna get at Kendrick, that's how you do it in a way that divides fans of lyricism.
@@TheCompanyMan yeah I thought you made some good points about angles of attack against Kendrick that he could have focused on. But it speaks to the fact that Kendrick has carefully studied Drake, his past battles and his life overall...But Drake really didn't look nearly as deeply as he should have. Considering how fragile and giant his ego is, I think he might try to get back. And yeah you definitely need a Lupe for that kind of assault
@@TheCompanyMan Mention Lupe in what context? Do you mean how Kendrick didnt try to battle Lupe?
Nah, similarities in the space they occupy in hip hop and the fact that lupe's been hyper critical of kendrick. I mentioned angles in my heart part 6 reaction.
@@jayjohnson5346 Drake could have used the »biting« angle against Kendrick. Lupe implied more than once that Kendrick stole his image and his »style«, e.g. the Kung-Fu fighting stuff etc. … Nas did it perfectly against Jay-Z in Ether: He painted Jay as a fan-boy of Biggie and himself (Nas) and it stuck.
Kendrick definitely won. But the only way you could possibly say that Drake had a chance is the fact that people were already giving Kendrick props after the Like That verse. People gave Kendrick his trophy before the disses even started. So that’s the only way you could make an argument. Other than THAT, it’s Kendrick all the way.
As a Kendrick Lamar fan that's cap. Niggas was not confident Kendrick could keep up with Drake. Drake did Push-ups, and Taylor Made Freestyle and Kendrick was getting cooked for 16 days then once he dropped Euphoria. Most fans were saying it was over imo that all I remember seeing on social media
Gotta disagree with this. Most people were saying that it was over after Taylor Made and Push-ups dropped back to back. People counted Kendrick out from the jump, but he ain't Meek Mill. And that's what people forgot.
@@dafreako95as a Kdot fan I had him winning from the start but didn't know how he was going to do it. Definitely thought Drake "red button" would have been a pop hit after 6:16. Not a lame car trip video of him crushing a similar van and poor bars.
@@dafreako95Everyone always says that they’re a fan of someone before disagreeing with the topic. “As a fan of Christ himself, I doubted him when Satan met with him in the dessert, I doubted he could last the 40 days.” You don’t need to lie. Everyone was giving Kenny props WAY BEFORE the disses started. That’s why Cole dropped 7 minute drill, everyone was begging for a response from both him and Drizzy. And once he dropped, everyone said it was weak. There’s proof of this all in the comment threads and reaction channels on RUclips. The “17” days, not “16” were just a waiting period. Everyone was saying that he MIGHT lose if he doesn’t respond. But they were already talking about him being the winner if he did respond. And once he did, they declared him winner. Euphoria could’ve been out on its own without MTG and NLU and everyone would’ve said he won. This is just facts. Don’t believe me? Look at social media like you mentioned.
@@Seoul_SoldierNa. They didn’t. Everyone was handing him his medals after Like That. Hence why Cole said in his apology that the world and his boys were looking at him like “What you gonna do?!” There was pressure there because if he DIDN’T respond, he’d be seen as the loser. Once he did respond, everyone shat on it and said it was mid. Why did they do that? Because in THEIR EYES, Kendrick already won. Now for Drake, he came in strong, everybody liked it, but a lot of people said it was because Kendrick DIDN’T respond yet. Everyone claimed that if he DID respond, he’d be the winner. Once he did respond, he was declared winner. I love Kendrick and I can say he won. I did in my first comment. But I’m not going to sit here and pretend that bias wasn’t existing during this whole feud.
I could actually see that working, especially for his core fans who are spiraling a bit. The only thing is…doesn’t Kendrick fire off another diss track then?
It’s likely
He has 5 ready to go lol
Drake coming back
1. Dont say the N word no more.
2. D- Dont R- Rap A - Against K - Kendrick E - Ever
3. Celebrity doesnt mean integrity
4. What is it the braids!
5. Stop colonizing Atlanta or any southern city, keep away from St. Louis.
6. Hey Drake, i hear you like them young? Stop collabing with young artists.
7. Stop sneak dissing and stop dissing exes and women who dont want you no more. Attacking women shows you have poor character.
In all honesty. The best thing Drake can do is mature and grow musically but i dont think he is capable of that because that would ask him to also grow and mature personally.
I wonder how much of Kendrick’s point about Drake not wanting to speak on black issues and the black experience is due to the Eminem effect you spoke on when he released that freestyle going against trump, and his album sales after that plummeted. Drake, like Eminem gets a lot of play in middle America. It’s a business decision. He knows saying anything pro black risks alienating those people that are Drake fans, not hip hop fans.
I'm truly of the mind that Drake is done.
His career has already dragged on far to long to start.. He hasn't elevated his game whatsoever, he still markets his music to kids as a near 40 year old.
It's too late.. his time has come and gone.. and i don't want to listen to someone who made out with a 17 year old in stage and told her how good her breasts feel..
Drake is finished in my opinion and i don't want to see a comeback from him anymore then I want to see LeBron James play another season in the NBA.
The difference between Kanye and Drake is Kanye has never denied himself being a flawed human being as egotistical as he is. When we listen to Kanye we know its Kanye speaking from the heart. As controversial as he is. He's at the very least consistent with who he is as a human being, ghostwriting or not. Drake on the other hand is an actor. Thats just what it is. There's no sense of authenticity within his character. His worst qualities have always been there, its just he's been able to get away with it for so long he's gone overboard, lost in the sauce as gucci mane would say. Who is he even at this point of time. His whole mythos is based off streaming records and trends of the year. We don't know anything about the real human being and its because it's probably not that interesting. The character of drake he portrays is shallow as it is. What deep layers of himself can he even show this deep into his career without exposing himself as a complete fraudulent?
Well said!
@@TheCompanyMan love the channel man keep it up!
Couldn’t have worded it better
In pro wrestling, when a wrestler falls out of public favor, the most frequently used route that the promotion's booker takes is to turn that now disliked wrestler "heel" (bad guy). So if Drake can pivot into more of an honest bad guy, i.e. Hollywood Hulk Hogan going bad with NWO, maybe it could give him a new career entirely. His gullible fanbase would certainly eat it right up at least.
Most of Drake's fans are casual hip hop fans at best. He'll be fine.
The malibus most wanted line has been seriously underrated. He’s right.
This is crazy! What ever happened to just making good music. That's how any Hip Hop artist should bounce back form taking an L. Chris Brown moon walked at the BET awards & all was forgiven. Remind people why they f'd with him in the first place. Drake needs to find that Blackberry that he lost on vacation 15 years ago, & go back to work.😂
FYI, I haven't listened to Drake since "Writer's gate" 😂
@ 4:20 Drake embodying that he's a piece of garbage in a way that he can continue being a piece of garbage... is him making a simp anthem out of BBL Drizzy w/ Sexxy Red. Surprisingly King Willonious (aka Avocado Papi) has yet to issue a cease & desist for creating the beat. Though its a trolling of Metro Boomin (akla Metro Groomin)...the BBL Drizzy remake falls flat in the grand scheme because it proves Kendrick right in numerous ways.
This is the rosiest way to talk about Drake.
He has NO CULTURAL weight. None… Kendrick stripped him of his preconceived value to Hip Hop. Dude is DONE on a certain level. He can’t rise to the level that the Professor is saying he’d have too. 😂 Drakes pen has never been deep. It’s ALWAYS been surface
Excellent collaborations gentleman, Great works for the culture.
We don't want him to bounce back! Go away forever. Live your life.
Aubrey are you listening ?
Drake needs to go on Shannon Shape in about 6 months and apologize about being a cancer to the culture and her will be ok
"J Cole was dragged through the coals" is this white man spitting casual bars? Lol
Not the professor suggesting Drake to Gaslight 😂😂😂
More ghost writers lol nah fr he should try and humanize himself
At this point. Drake is like Nickelback now to me 😂😂😂😂
hahahahaha.
AGE OF AQUARIUS! Human Consciousness is elevating/evolving. Drake gotta find a way to uniquely represent himself but I think he just too corny to do it.
drake doesn’t have the depth to pull this off
Send Drake to India for his 9 yr old
This video aged like milk
So, all the pdf accusations were just made up? Because why do we want him to bounce back if those things are true? I’d like to get to the bottom of all of that before hearing another song from Drake. I thought he’d at least sue for defamation since he likes using his legal team for Cease and Desists so much,
Drake's fanbase doesn't care. His next release will do the numbers.
If course its made up. Kdot tried to win a rap battle and yall over here thinking everything factual
5:39 Drake - Meet The Grahams is such a brilliant idea, I agree 100% but Drake declared that he loves satan so I doubt he has the capacity to take such advice
Wait, Drake is a ‘culture vulture and colonizer’. But he needs some advice from the white professor to make him relevant in the culture again 😂
kendrick's point wasn't about race.
@@TheCompanyMan Kendrick knew what he was doing with references like "You can't say the n-word," "colonizer," and "culture vulture." While not all his diss songs were about race, these references are indirectly or directly.
It's a place for DRAKE in Hip-hop, but he needs to go back to his melodies.
Drake could make a come back if he’s sticks to rnb. Maybe. It’s lookin bad. I used to be a Drake fan when he first came out but the last 10 years or so not so much.
😝 Drake’s career cannot be rehabilitated, but this is a decent strategy, if he was capable of being self-reflect, but he’s not.
I'd love to see it, actually.
If we get Dra 's mbdtf out of this, thatll be a win for everybody. Drake could do it if he focused solely on yhe music quality.
I hope you two having a dialog becomes a regular thing. Really enjoy both perspectives and the way y'all bounce off one another
fam matters video alone was soooo threating lol, it was amazing for those 3 hours lmao.
"how does he pull a Chris brown"
Ask chat gpt
last one
I don't think drake can pull an Eminem
I am basically white, I am a culture stealing bum
I do live in a trailer with your mom
My boy OVO is an Uncle Kells
I do got a dumb security guard named Cheddar Bob
Who shoots himself in his leg with his own gun
I did YELL AT all six of you hotel chumps
And EbonyPrince2K24 did steal my bag
I'm still standin' here screaming, "Fck the Free World!"
i honestly had like 5 more ez bars but ovhoe i got to go.
We have more than enough rappers so do we really need drake to bounce back?!?!
Drake just needs a hit. And it will be business as usual.
Drake the snake is done.
Nope, his fans love the bloated mid albums. Most of them are casual rap fans at best.
Are yall going to do one on how Kendrick moves forward too?
I heard rumors he already working on another album so he probably won’t go away that easy
Which is good. He shouldn't. Never leave while your hot thats how mase screwed up.
Drake doesn’t need to “come back” from this. He is pop now. He has his dedicated followers who will prop him up no matter what. Look what happened with Pusha. If that happened in the 90’s it would be a death sentence but it didn’t stop him then, and this won’t stop him now
Most folks don’t even know who clipse is and barely know Pusha. That’s how he skate. The non-rap fans don’t know.
The non-rap fans know Kendrick. Ain’t no stepping out of this one. Can’t Bel Biv Devoe his way out of this one.
Kendrick is not pusha my guy. Kendrick actually has notoriety, crazy numbers and accolades to dethrone drake. Pusha doesn’t have nearly as much influence
@@757reaperJust to be clear, I’m in no way caping for Drake. It’s just how the younger generation views these things. Got 2 nephews and a niece who agree that Kendrick won but that won’t stop them from listening to Drake
@@davidawonaike1188Fair enough but believe me when I say the younger generation doesn’t care about that as much as we do. I don’t like Drake but I swear the kids will keep streaming. It’s frustrating but reality
@@TatendaZiyambi sorry if it came off like I was insinuate you caping. I was just speaking on the difference and the range of impact.
Like T. Swift is openly a Kendrick fan. They do have cross over audience to some extent.
Drake won because he exposed Kendrick for being a hypocrite and a wife beater.
Kendrick exposed both of those things on his own albums. "We Cry Together" for example. "I'm the biggest hypocrite of 2015..." for example.
@@TheCompanyManso that makes it right?
DRAKE NEEDS TO GO TO TRIAL TF
Is he not being accused from multiple credible sources of child molestation and sex trafficking?????
Which credible sources? Genuinely curious.
What credible sources? Quit lying smh. Nobody but fans ever accused him of anything. No women ever came out against him
Not that I want to see Drake 'bounce back' (I don't), but I agree this approach is exactly right from a branding/image perspective. His only real way out of the whole situation is to address it in a meaningful way, and spin it to his advantage as best he can.
But he has to go through the fire, face his demons, come out the other end, and deftly maneuver through the entire process for that to work. If history is any indication, Drake simply doesn't have the emotional maturity or ability to introspect that would require.
As Kendrick laid bare, Drake doesn't actually know who he is. That's why his music is so vapid and stuck in a period of his life that's long passed. He's lost in the character of Drake, and his ego is too big to allow any real growth at this point. (Although, if he actually took Kendrick's advice and attended an ayahuasca ceremony to "strip [his] ego from the bottom", the results could be shockingly positive...)
Barring Drake actually reflecting/growing (which is doubtful), probably the only way to get him to make the "right" PR moves to spin this situation beneficially for himself, would be to have someone at UMG (or someone who otherwise has enough leverage and influence) convince him that the steps outlined in this video are his idea, and play to his ego. Literally write the lyrics for him, have him perform them, and convince him it's gonna "get Kendrick back" and "put him back on top".
How I actually see this playing out though is: he releases a 'summer vibes' album, as he's indicated. It's mostly chill sing-songy stuff (like Daddy Kendrick told him to do), but his spin is that this was his plan all along. The general public, who is only vaguely aware of the details of this whole beef, eat it up. The album does just fine. Maybe not as great as it would have otherwise, but serviceable at the very least.
Maybe his reputation within the industry is damaged to the point that he can't get hot features any more, and/or younger artists no longer see a Drake feature as a desirable co-sign. Maybe his influence and sales taper off with each subsequent release and he slowly fades away. Or maybe people really do have such short attention spans and the 24/7 news cycle is so numbing that he can just fully bounce back by doing what he's always done. I wouldn't be surprised. Plus, UMG has unlimited money to throw at this problem. That will probably solve it eventually.
I believe Kendrick's approach of trying to tarnish Drake's image in the industry to cut off his ability to trend hop and leech for perpetual relevance was correct, I just don't know if it will ultimately succeed. A lot of it probably depends on how well all of these allegations stick, and what other dirty details come to light. Kendrick doesn't strike me as the type of person to put his own reputation on the line for completely unfounded gossip, so I'm guessing he knows things we don't, and is playing the long game waiting for it all to surface.
I certainly hope it does though. Drake doesn't have anything of value to contribute to the music industry or culture at large, and they'd be better off without his influence. He should retire to Turks, have a nice long life, and pop up on a feature every now and then if he wants. I'm sure people would tolerate him in small doses as they're reminded of the good old 2010s when he was on top of the world. (Of course his ego will never allow that, and it'll ultimately be his downfall.)
Last note: it would be hysterically bittersweet if this whole beef at least tarnishes Drake's image enough that he's unable to get the last #1 he needs to top Michael Jackson's record (and he's forever stuck tied for the record). That would eat his ego alive for the rest of his life.
Drake album coming summer time.... kendrick will be 4 years from now.. unless drake enticed him to finally drop some music
I think you're looking at it the wrong way. Drake has been quantity over quality for more than half a decade now. He hasn't had anything to say since Nothing was the Same and even then a lot of it was inauthentic. If he doesn't find his real voice and actually put something into his music he will continue to be seen as just a pop entertainer that raps
I hope somebody addresses all the gatekeeping that's been happening since Not Like Us dropped. All the culture vulture talk is out of control...and I'm not just talking about Drake. I know it's a sensitive topic, but the fact is HipHop is now too big to police. I really don't think it's going to be possible - or good for that matter - to tell other races, nationalities and ethnicities that they don't belong in HipHop
That's not the message of the song, though I can see some outsiders running with that narrative. But specifically, what kind of gate keeping are you referring to and why is it a bad think its good for hip hop to gatekeep?
@@TheCompanyMan I love the song and I love Kendrick - I'm not saying it's the message of the song, but ppl are interpreting it that way. It's not too difficult to find vids on RUclips, TikTok etc that are advocating for HipHop to be an all, and ONLY, black American genre. RUclips especially was flooded with those kinds of vids. This isn't anything new but it's just a little more vocal now. I'm just saying it's a very slippery slope. Just as an example of what I'm talking about - I wouldn't be surprised if there would be ppl saying that Professor Skye needs to know his place and that his opinion doesn't matter because he's white. I understand the desire to protect the genre, but I'm just concerned that the focus is going to be on things like skin color and geography instead of a love and deep knowledge of the art. Hope I cleared that up. As someone who fell in love with HipHop over 30 years ago I just want to make it clear that I understand that it's a music genre that originates from African Americans, but ppl saying that only African Americans can be a part of all aspects - rapping, journalism, producing, record labels etc - is detramental to the genre.
Professor Skye's already received comments like that, which I think he briefly alludes to in this conversation if I'm not mistaken. But his respect for the culture oozes innately in his conversation and perspective. Like Rakim says, it ain't where you from, it's where you're at and there are a number of people of all races who treat hip hop like some sort of anthropology experiment or some cash cow that can be pimped on their way to the promised land. But take for example other forms of black music that were completely co-opted. Rock, for example. Jazz, for example. Country, probably the biggest example. Country music has spent decades limiting the reach of black country artists because no one is alive anymore who remembers that it was another genre started by black people. The black community understands that and that's about it. That's why Lil Nas X caught so much blow back or Beyonce all those years with country songs on her albums that the country committee at the recording academy wouldn't recognize. It's a genre that was co-opted by outsiders who intensely gate keep who's allowed in the inner circle to this day. With that in mind, what's the slippery slope of hip hop gate keeping the culture?
@@TheCompanyManyes, I completely agree with every single thing you said here. I guess what I’m trying to articulate is that the housekeeping needs to start at the very top if at all possible. Even though there are black label owners they are still under giant conglomerates:Sony, UMG, Warner. Maybe more independent labels need to pop up? I just feel like it’s not really fair that artists pay for the sins of the puppeteers. Not sure if Drake is a culture vulture, but it’s also not for me to say. I just listen to so many different hiphop platforms and it’s been a running theme for years now to start gatekeeping the genre. And when they’re talking about keeping ppl out, they’re talking about all ppl who aren’t black Americans. So when the finger is pointing at everyone who is not African American it concerns me. That’s what I mean by a slippery slope. For some reason Eminem has been a favorite target for years and I think that’s crazy because I can’t think of anyone in HipHop that shows more love and respect to the genre and the ppl in it. Like you said, it should be about respect.
It is the bars and better pen, that is how he won in my eyes. He was never gonna win in the public eye, it is like going against Taylor Swift, you are not gonna win they are both media darlings. The surprising part was the streams but then even with that, people hate Drake more lol. Kendrick won because most people say he won.
Drake said " shake that ssa for Drake " shut up about pen
@@SurprisedBus-bw4wd you forgot “the” don’t use your emotions, just logic 🙏🏾
@@mashi_rsa he also said " you rappin like you tryna get the slaves free " i could do this forever
Do you have ears? The reason Kdot won isn't because people are just saying he won just to say it, that's delusional. Kdot put out the better diss. Family Matters was a weak diss. Drake focused his energy to try and diss everyone once again to put the narrative that it's 1 v 20 when it was clearly was just Drake and Kdot. The Heart 6 was another terrible diss and finally a track that just focused on Kdot but it was a defensive diss track?🤣 If you like BBL Drizzy and thought he won because you just like him more that's fine but you're also just a sore loser.
@@liltitan9435 No disrespect to you as human, but this is a dumb take. Nigga said The Heart pt6 was terrible 😭called Family matters weak.
You two should think about doing a standalone podcast together. Great chemistry
i see Company Man & The Professor -- i click immediately .. in my opinion, as a rapper, these are the best Hiphop PR team you could ever have, for free