DIY Headway Lithium Bank, Complete video tutorial. Car Audio Lithium has never been easier!
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2022
- This is an in-depth tutorial on assembly of a Headway 38120HP, 32Ah LiFePo4 bank. These are extremely powerful cells that give you massive amperage support in a tiny package. Car audio lithium has never been easier. Inexpensive, simple and safe, the future is now! Power your system properly with this new technology, with confidence from this step by step video.
This is the clearest explanation of building a headway bank I've seen.
Thank you!
Absolutely love this tutorial, I understand it more now for sure, I got a great lipo charger already from being a rc nerd lol now I'm gonna piece this all together
how did you charge it with the lipo charger? i have a venom pro 2
Can’t wait to see more. Excellent video 💪🏻
Thank You!
Excellent DIY tutorial. Excited for future videos and learning from you sir. Keep em coming.
Thank you! I most definitely will!
Awesome video man! I love my 96ah headway bank. I'm thinking about building another one for a total of 192ah
Good video be watching this again soon.
Thank You!
Awesome! Thank you thank you!
Great video
Thanks for sharing. Do you make the video about the custom busbars? Thanks
Used headway cells are just $5 a piece now. Cant beat that price.
We here do you go to find this deal?
Just paid $6.25 a cell. Got a superbeast 48 cell pack for 300 with shipping and tax. Ordered from batteryhookup.
love your videos.....great job, inspired by your video i sucessfully build 32Ah LiFePo4 Bank but, before hooking up parellely to led acid battery in car do i need to run a seperate negative wire from main battery or is it ok to hook the negetive terminal of newly built 32Ah LiFePo4 Bank to the car body is fine please guide.... thank you..
Great video! Keep the content coming. How many amp hours do you believe would be required to power 8K amp maintaining voltage in the 14s?
Great video. Is it fine if we parallel LFP with AGM please ? and how we will charge both .TIA
Can u show other ways it can be put together too,,this one is very good ,
How many ways it can be combined together..thanks for the video !!!!
And all.your help...
I'll have many more example videos in the future. There's Many different orientations possible, you just must remain as 4s. Squares like this, bars out each side or together, vertical stacks, flat walls, MANY ways to get 4s, your imagination is the only limit!
Thanks for the video. Easiest to follow tutorial I have seen so far. May I ask, was that a super cap bank you hooked the headway battery to? I would also like to build a supercap bank to go with the headway bank I am going to build.
That's just more headway
Thanks for the video. Is there a link or part number for the bms? Thanks.
Hey man love your videos. I know you get alot of these questions and I appreciate you taking the time to answer pretty much everyone. so I have a 64ah headway bank I just put together for car audio to run parallel with my lead acid starting battery and stock alt. is that enough for running 2 amps 2600 watts total?
Yeah that's more than enough man
I also have 16 headway cells all I need is to make the bussbars was thinking bout buying the aluminum off Amazon. What were your dimensions on your bars here? Are they 1/4? As well that’s what I’m going with too thanks. Excited to see what this 32 AH can do!
This material is 1/4" 6061 aluminum. the long bars are 2.5"x6.125", short ones 2.5"x2.5". The holes are 1.625" apart in all directions. Depending on how much stuff you have to hook up to it, it may be easier to do a more standard layout with pos and neg out each side, also giving you 4-6 hook up points per pole. In that case you'd essentially make 5 of the long bars and use those for the poles and run the bank as straight lines of 4 cells instead of clusters.
I would love a set of the custom, homemade bus bars!! Best description on building a bank!
Unfortunately I do not make them for sale, but there's many great CNC options available.
@@gotlithium6311 Thank you! Would you have a specific company I can purchase them from? 😃
If i bought the cells could you make me and sell those buss bars and hardware. You made it very simple
Can I add this to my lead starting battery without isolator?
Was wondering where you got the buss plates bud? Ty
Is BMS necessary or just a heltec balancer?
do you need a charger to charge the once ready for installation?
How much power is this good for?
Can i possibly have a setup that can get up to 24v and about 300+ah with probably connecting 7 in parallel (22.4v/8ah) then series them the remaining 41 pieces will then have (3.2v/328) add them together (336ah/25.6v) and yeah I know the bms connections will be the problem, please let me know what you think of this setup, my inverter is 24v and presently using lead-acid batteries which is really getting weak lately.
Great video 🔥🔥🔥 super informative!! I have a question I know it’s been asked a million times . I’m building a lithium bank very similar to yours but a 64ah . I have a nice strong agm under the hood . Do I need to delete my agm or can I run both batteries together . Thank you again
you can run them both without issue. in series or parallel?
What's the centers for holes on the buss bars
#GotLithium?, may I ask where you got the busbars? If you made them, is there a way I can purchase a set from you?
Did you remove the solder from the cells? On my superbeast battery I've got 3 cells where they soldered some wires on the battery where the red wrap is located. I'm just wondering how do I get the solder off of the cells and would appreciate any advice.
Where did you get the busbars?
So I have a lead acid starting battery could I use this with no isloter an just run them together .???
how can i get the sizes of the bars please
Would lishen be better than headway? 2 banks of 4 8.5 ah cells, what would be a good setup for a smart 3? Ty
That doesn't have a problem with being charged all the time from the alternator?
Hey boss, ive just found your video/page and I’m truly grateful for the knowledge your giving me🙏🏽,, wanted to run my get down to you and get some feedback if possible,, so.. I’ve got 16 38120 8AH cells possibly will get 4 more to make 20 total.. what kind of BMS will work but is budget friendly?.. discharging process? I can’t find a forsure method I can use.. this my first run at building a bank, I wanna make sure I go about it the Correct way,, lol.. Also I want to achieve 40ah bank when done..
Any & all feedback would be much appreciated🤙🏽🙏🏽💯
Thank you! I'm Glad my videos have helped you out! As to your questions, that little 1.2a 4s balancer shown in the video is all you need, They're about $10 on eBay. You really shouldn't need to charge or discharge them, just assemble and install.
It is a good idea to hook all cells in Parallel for a few days, POS to POS and NEG to NEG, this will help with the initial balance of the bank; However, when starting with Used cells like these, they will never be perfectly balanced and its perfectly fine to just assemble and install and let the balancer do its job.
Thanks for the reply brotha! Much appreciated 🙏🏽,, So,,, lol,, I was told I would need a 4s 100amp BMS (DALY 100amp 4S BMS) for my use in car audio,, why the different suggestions?.. also your hardware screws you used and the custom bus bars you used.. any way I can get the ones you used from somewhere?? Please if you can point me in the right direction..?
You said you paired this with your lead acid battery up front ? Impressive. I'm currently building a 16ah for a small sound system I'm building for my wife.
Correct. The vehicle shown is a Lead to LiFe setup. I ran a 16Ah bank with the factory battery for quite a while with zero negative results. Plug and Play Power!
@@gotlithium6311 you use a isolator? I wanna add a 32ah bank to my system and move up to a taramp smart 3k
@@ryukx4674 no isolator needed, plug and play. I ran a AGM under the hood and a 96ah headway bank in my trunk.
@@KvnWlsn I've heard often agm and lithium pair okay but I did not know you could pair lithium with lead acid... assuming that's what OP and @GotLithium? Meant
@@RandoManFPV I believe it is what they meant but then benefits of AGM far outweigh lead acid to the point that whenever I get a new vehicle the first thing I do is replace the stock battery with a AGM of the same size.
So yes you can run lead acid and headway together but I personally wouldn't. AGM and headway is the least I would run but ideally you would want to run a supercap under the hood or do a battery delete and run just lithium... at least that's what I have always been told.
is this worth it to push a 2000 watt amp i ask because i know with stock electrical its not bushing 2000watts , if yes any recommendations on what bank i need
Im gonna make a epic battery for my kids powerwheels ha
My volt reads 15v is it safe to run this?
I built 64 ah bank
Is it possible to connect to my front flooded lead battery without isolator?
Anyone know the specs of the buss bars? I’m trying to build this same setup to support my Smart3k Taramps & 240HO alt.
Great tutorial, so you don't recommend running an isolator between bank and agm? My agms rest at 12.9
I do Not recommend using an isolator. I feel Isolators are an unnecessary bottleneck in your charging system. LiFe does rest slightly higher than Lead, so the bank will float the Lead Up, but the draw is negligible. Over many days, the Lithium will Eventually drain down to Lead rest, then both will just sit at that voltage indefinitely. If you drive the vehicle daily or even weekly, there's no issues running them Direct Parallel as the vehicle in the video is.
@@gotlithium6311 Awesome bro thank you. Yes it's my daily driver so that is good to know. I really appreciate that 🙏
Link to the buss bar
How could i make a 4s in 3p work?
How much do u think it will cost in total
You said you connect it straight to the lead battery what about charging it? Im interested in this set-up to run a cb amplifier which require large amounts of current everytime you key the mic
Connect just like any normal battery, it's just added reserve.
So how many for 10k watts with a 320 amp alternator I’m trying to build one myself
How much money did you spend all in total?.
Ik it’s been a couple of months but I’m about to assemble a 64ah lipo4 lithium bank and was wonder what size are the bolts/screws?? Are they metric or standard?? Please let me know when you get a chance. Thanks
M6 x8mm just got some myself.
I love these batteries but ? Is what happens if I only have 4 can I still use them in a car audio set up? That's for the feed back
Minimum you should run in a car is an 8 cell, 16Ah bank, for charging reasons. 4 cells will absolutely start a vehicle, but should not be used regularly.
@@shanedwyer2845 can you allso mix up 100amps and 200amps
@@gioarteaga3984 You can mix any size or capacity, even chemistry. All that matters is voltage. 12v battery is a 12v battery.
If I do this setup. I'm thinking about doing a 4s setup but with 20 cells total to go under my seat.
Do I delete my agm batteries or keep my under hood or get like a 200a battery isolator or something?
You are absolutely fine running the bank straight parallel to the Lead up front, No Isolator Required. I have another video up on exactly that subject.
@@gotlithium6311 I'm about to look for that video right now
I live in 1967 GM TDH-4519 city transit bus full-time and my agm batteries took a dump on me so now I only have power when the sun is out, but I am disabled and not able to get a job, so how much will it cost to build that battery or is there anyway you can help me with cells
It feels weird seeing positive and negative connected to the same bar and it not melting?
Not many of these on RUclips so shout out to you! I built a 64ah bank. I haven't used it yet being afraid of the unknown 🤦♂️ do u think it'd support my car and 5k watts? I've got videos of my bank on here.
64Ah plus a big alternator will definitely support 5k with ease! throw that bank in and start enjoying lithium power!
@@gotlithium6311 do you think charging at 14.8 will be a problem?
@@1ohmwrecker Charging 14.8v is over max charge and will degrade the cells more quickly, you will lose some lifespan over time. There's no immediate danger like explosion or fire, it'll just wear them out more quickly.
@@gotlithium6311 I did some research, and if I get an isolator, even tho you proved you don't need one😉) and it'll give you a voltage drop of .4 to .6 volts. So that could keep me from over charging the lithium and staying around that 14.4v, right? Just an idea...
@@1ohmwrecker It's theoretically possible, but I usually advise against introducing a bottleneck. However, that may actually work to limit voltage with that being your goal. Give it a shot man, only one way to know for sure!
Im doing 64 cells for my car audio build. I been told that I need to put a regulator on the alternator. Im doing two separate banks of 32 cells can i run it without having to put a regulator. I do have a second alternator in my car. Thanks in advance
128Ah is quite a bit of Headway, a stock alternator May have a little harder time keeping them charged, but will work none the less. However, Upgrading the alternator would be a benefit. You shouldn't need a regulator unless it currently charges too High, Headway is acceptable to be charged anywhere from 13.2v to 14.6v.
It is my understanding that a regulator is not there to prevent damage to the battery bank, but rather to limit the current the alternator puts out, thus helping the alternator to run cooler and last longer.
What's the battery beside the one you're installing?
In the vehicle? Another, Smaller Headway bank.
Do you build them and sell
How many AH would I need to support a Taramps Smart 5?
32ah of Lithium with 270amp or bigger alternator.
You'd need quite a bit, 64Ah at least with a good size alt. Smart5s can draw big power.
@@gotlithium6311 what about taramps smart 3 bass with 80 amp alt
where did you get that balance wire/board
Amazon for like $20
Thats from eBay, They're less than $10, but work perfectly.
@GotLithium? what is hte configuration for a 96AH headway battery ?
I believe you would need to buy 6 of the 16 cells 16x6=96
96Ah would be 4S12P. 48 cells needed.
@@gotlithium6311 thanks I’m gonna buy these one day and try and build one 😊
How is this bigger then 3.5 big agm batteries if this is 32ah lithium battery and a agm Xs power group 31 d14 is 100ah I don’t understand how this lithium has more of a AH capacity
How many watts can this handle
In theory, 5k with massive amounts of charging. Realistically 2-2.5k alongside stock alternator/stock battery in a typical vehicle.
I don't understand how it's more power than an agm with less amphours and same voltage
I've got an orion hcca 5000.1dv2 and everything I've came across says I need 500 amp hours
The big thing with lithium is their "C" rating. Which is how fast a cell can discharge its energy and recover after. AGM can't compete in those areas, much slower recharge/recover rate and a lot less pulse/burst discharge rate. Then you factor in price, weight, and size and headway/lithium is the clear winner.
So how many hours does this put out?
Well it would do 32a for 1 hour, but that's not really how we use them. Capacity is still capacity, but the Discharge capability is Huge.
Would you be interested in selling me a set of buss bars?
I’m thinking the same, i tried my own but holes wasn’t lining up
I was told the way you built it is inefficient
So it’s just that easy? Just like that?