@@tanneredge9774 Sir, I've been a punk for a long time, and have never not said things to people's faces. N.B. Darby wasn't a dangerous character offstage. In LA at that time, the guys you had to watch yourself with were TSOL.
I've seen it. It's one of the most interesting documentaries I've ever seen. I think it was the first movie that took a good look at the hardcore punk scene of the early 80s.
Excellent. To those that say I don't know why Germs are so famous the reason is because they were so good at what they did. If you like One Direction then I agree you will certainly not understand the popularity of Germs. In the same way that Sex Pistols burned brightly influenced many bands from The Clash, Buzzcocks,Joy Division in the UK to the B52's in the US as well as REM Germs have had that same level of influence on bands like Rancid and NOFX but not only can you can hear the influence of the Sex Pistols in Germs and I can also hear Germs influence very clearly in early Bad Religion songs such as We're only gonna die so for that alone they deserve huge credit as BR are one of the best bands around. For me Germs GI was the first hardcore punk record which would then go onto influence bands like Black Flag so the US punk scene over the years would be very different if Germs had not been there first.
because he had such a upbringing with everybody who cared about him dying or leaving him and been left then with people who didnt care about him and been clinically depressed after that
braf zachland oh fuck you ye cheeky son of a bitch ye its not that fucking difficult to understand.... DARBY HAD A BAD LIFE AND THATS WHY HE KILLED HIMSELF... now was that so hard you technical little turd
wabblum99 nothing when you write it in english, thank you. that said what is so hard to understand about my original comment being a joke in reference to that annoying girl in the video. do they not have humor or sarcasm in the U.K?
I LOVE the germs, i always have since i was alil kid... but i have to say that that was really really disrespectful and just horrible, sick infact, about how they were joking and foolin around with the dead guy.... seriosuly WTF, not cool....
@lifestraight I meant: I was surprised his friends couldnt tell he was gay until he told them (towards the end of his life). Read the book Lexicon Devil if you want the whole story
A lot of the original punks were gay. It's part of what made the original punk scene so great. It was all outsiders who didn't fit in, and people didn't judge each other on dumb things like who they slept with.
Typical example of white collar raised teens, that grew up sheltered in the valley. They became attracted to the punk scene as a means to escape the boredom brought on by that sheltered, easy upbringing. Its in stark contrast to the UK punk movement, brought on by the poor british economy at the time & the old idea that you should strive to get a good job, get married, have kids, & do that for the rest of your life.(which was really unappealing & nearly unobtainable in Britain at the time) So in the UK, punk evolved from a youth rebellion, to a scene, with its own music & fashion. That's what the west coast adopted. The old rebel without a cause saying.
The germs themselves were more or less legit working class kids, but as for their fans, yeah there was definitely some of that. When Michelle casually refers to her parents being away "in China"...yeah, they've got some dough
Good thing we have you to be such an authority on an anti-authority movement. We all bow before your incredible knowledge and understanding of people you never knew, and a scene you were never part of.
@emasame sadly, it wont. those were very special times for anyone including myself who were fortunate sometimes it felt privileged to have grown up in the 80s
unfortunately there arnt gonna be anybands like this for more reasons then one. 1 darby's dead and so are his vocals and lyrics, 2 new music has comeout that has taken over society adn punk rock will never be as huge that it was in 1980
It's just a word and it hurt nobody. People don't care near as much as you think they do. It's funny to hear and he didn't say it to anyone maliciously. Grow up
Typical for the times youthful non-sense. I guess it was funny when Darby lied there dead??? No respect for human life. I hate people who hate painters...
I read Darby's biography- his friends said they had no idea he was gay. Really? No idea? I could show this video to a 5 year old and they could tell he was gay.
Those were fun shows. I used to like to throw big handfuls of shit at everyone. They'd be accidentally eating it. Darby was a cool dude, but not nearly as smart as people make him out to be.
@hotpants69 live preformances were not so great yes, but album songs were awesome, also lets see germs were around sand started same year ramones did, they were a influence to most of your major punk bands of the late 70s and earl 80s era, that being said, Have you even watched some lives ramones videos Joey leaves out parts of the songs sometimes, lastly i didnt know punk shows were meant to be played to perfection, P.s brush up on our info of a band before you criticize.
"They" didn't make the racist jokes. Darby made the race joke, and I hardly think he was a serious racist. That term just wasn't as stigmatized back then, and he was an intentionally politically incorrect person anyway. As for the girl, she was specific individual... her problem wasn't that she came from a rich family, it was having shitty character as a person (and being a junky). If you had gone and met the kids from her neighborhood, most of them probably would have thought she was a jackass.
Just because you wear Nazi memorabilia I wouldn't say that makes you a shitty person or a sort of Nazi sympathizer. Lemmy wore that shit and nobody batted an eye, you know why? Because he didn't act like a fucking Nazi.
well if ur a punk this is a letdown cuz there isnt gonna be another punk rock band that was as big as the germs sure they didnt know their instruments to well but they were good love them or hate them
@hotpants69 Because he went to IPS school/program for gifted students, and studied brainwashng and manipulation, being as i didnt think they chose your average joe to take place in gifted programs.
dont say that thats what they said about rock and look whats going on? punks an additude so its gonna come back someday maybe tomorrow maybe in 100 years but i doubt itll ever be dead its like any other type of music ppl will allways like it.
when ed van halen records a song and fucks up the solo but leaves it on the record, anyway; then 500,000 kids learn to play the mistake just as he did...
dude not like the germs in so many ways one the sound they had on records cannot be replaced also darbys lyrics cannot be copied either i say they were a great band in their prime to bad he isnt alive
@chessgeek101 well put! Punk is and will always be an attitude way before they made it marketable through fashion, etc......... thats why i loathe stores like hot topic .more like hot pocket hot topic
yeah i know they're still punk bands around but not like this one sure it doesnt sound good but darby was crazy because of the drugs and unfortunaetly he killed himself and no more germs but they were kickass
not what i was trying to say.. u mite have to go back a couple pages to what i wrote before. i used to think of him as punk god. now i'm not so sure. it's a not a me versus others' views sort of thing. that comment was a respond to someone else's about racism.
what makes you think i am? is it bcoz i said "ive got nothing against gays"? I asked that question bcoz i just wanted to know f the story of the movie was all true about darby.
No, just mostly haha... I dunno, I'm weird but I'm uber-confident in my sexuality and intelligence(along with my humble pie), then again i'm pretty old these days. Good question though! Seems you've a half truth somewhere in there...
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When u hate painters you’ve pretty much run out of things to hate.
That girls rigid backbone actually supported the entire LA punk scene. That’s just how hard her posturing was.
"...because I hate painters."
Priceless.
Exactly.....fucking pricelesss
This comment is 14 years old...crazy
@@Paul-kz7fe ye
@@Paul-kz7fe16 now, crazy
“Ye” 🤢
Oh sure, they're laughing now. But when the painters see this, Darby's days will be numbered.
Lol, painter's revenge!!
Darby’s days were numbered to december 7, 1980
PLM...lol
Disrespectful. I can bet that you would not have said that to his face.
@@tanneredge9774 Sir, I've been a punk for a long time, and have never not said things to people's faces. N.B. Darby wasn't a dangerous character offstage. In LA at that time, the guys you had to watch yourself with were TSOL.
Painter hater? She cold.
i know this is kinda old but in case youre still wondering, its mint jelly
looks like jello
Thank you. Seriously.
Mint jelly on toast? 👀
I've seen it. It's one of the most interesting documentaries I've ever seen. I think it was the first movie that took a good look at the hardcore punk scene of the early 80s.
Excellent. To those that say I don't know why Germs are so famous the reason is because they were so good at what they did. If you like One Direction then I agree you will certainly not understand the popularity of Germs. In the same way that Sex Pistols burned brightly influenced many bands from The Clash, Buzzcocks,Joy Division in the UK to the B52's in the US as well as REM Germs have had that same level of influence on bands like Rancid and NOFX but not only can you can hear the influence of the Sex Pistols in Germs and I can also hear Germs influence very clearly in early Bad Religion songs such as We're only gonna die so for that alone they deserve huge credit as BR are one of the best bands around. For me Germs GI was the first hardcore punk record which would then go onto influence bands like Black Flag so the US punk scene over the years would be very different if Germs had not been there first.
misfit That was refreshing and very well put. I am tired of all these assholes trying to discredit the germs.
Nickelback had more of an influence on punk rock than the Germs
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it is now clear to me why darby intentionally overdosed.
because he had such a upbringing with everybody who cared about him dying or leaving him and been left then with people who didnt care about him and been clinically depressed after that
wabblum99 wtf are you even saying. try writing in your native language because your english sucks
braf zachland oh fuck you ye cheeky son of a bitch ye its not that fucking difficult to understand.... DARBY HAD A BAD LIFE AND THATS WHY HE KILLED HIMSELF... now was that so hard you technical little turd
wabblum99 nothing when you write it in english, thank you. that said what is so hard to understand about my original comment being a joke in reference to that annoying girl in the video. do they not have humor or sarcasm in the U.K?
braf zachland im from ireland not the uk you jackass
Sham 69 poster!
Yeah! Amazing, love sham69 and the germs
@Cannibalzz So if his friends didn't even know, how was it ever revealed?
@rrrickster69 as you can see that the "Exene Cervenka hairstyle" was popular among punk girls in 1981...
Your reply is the only one that has amused me so far.
look at the behind darby crash in the start it says '' SID VICIOUS FACES MURDER AT COURT''
One mediocre album. One dead 22 year old. Pat Smear is now worth 25 million
Not including one of the two biggest rock bands of all time
its funny at 1:55 when Darby talks about the Coroners making jokes calling the dead guy "Juan Doe" Im Hispanic and its still HIGH-larious
You're an idiot! I don't find that racist shit funny. Fuck this band, never supported them.
Chuy83 I like this band but yeah that wasn’t a cool thing to say.
@@chuy8356 wah i get offended for other people boohoo im morally superior
@@chuy8356 then why the fuck did you come to this video? Fucking tool
It's hard to support anything or anyone when you're selling oranges on a freeway offramp
I love the Germs! Has anyone seen the movie? What did you think of it?
Which one? The decline of western civilization or what we do is secret? I love both.
This is kind of a pointless question, but what is that green crap that Darby's putting on that toast at 00:16?
Mint jelly
Didn't you feel bad that the guy was dead? "No. Not at all... Because I hate painters."
HAHAHAHA. Oh, mercy... Thanks for my weekly laugh.
I LOVE the germs, i always have since i was alil kid... but i have to say that that was really really disrespectful and just horrible, sick infact, about how they were joking and foolin around with the dead guy.... seriosuly WTF, not cool....
it was staged for the decline of western civilization
didn’t really happen
it was staged sweetie
was the decline of western civilisation the only interview of Darby?
the whole time while she's talking the water is running
Does anybody know the name of the chick in this video?
Hahah, that name ... sounds like something Master Seth would say lol
Maybe the green stuff is methadone jelly.nice on toast.😀
@Anne Frank it comes In both colours, I have extensive knowledge where that poison is concerned.
@@adamsaunders3413 as do Anne Frank, as do Anne Frank.
what the fuck kind of jelly is he putting on his toast. is it mint jelly
@lifestraight I meant: I was surprised his friends couldnt tell he was gay until he told them (towards the end of his life). Read the book Lexicon Devil if you want the whole story
wow darby seems sober for once...
A lot of the original punks were gay. It's part of what made the original punk scene so great. It was all outsiders who didn't fit in, and people didn't judge each other on dumb things like who they slept with.
wow this video has been up nine years fuck just noticed that now
wow 9 years..
on film, yes. Slash magazine has some interviews.
He's referring to a dead person. He's not playing some character in a movie....big difference
When she said “wetb_ck” it hit me like oh yeah they used that slur back then. I hadn’t heard it in so long I totally forgot it. Horrible word.
Yeah people didn’t give a shit back in 1980. X ‘Los Angeles’ came out that year and used the N word ☠️ and I mean the REAL N word
The green stuff looks like jello.
mint jelly. not to be confused with jello biafra.
Jose Doe?
Typical example of white collar raised teens, that grew up sheltered in the valley. They became attracted to the punk scene as a means to escape the boredom brought on by that sheltered, easy upbringing. Its in stark contrast to the UK punk movement, brought on by the poor british economy at the time & the old idea that you should strive to get a good job, get married, have kids, & do that for the rest of your life.(which was really unappealing & nearly unobtainable in Britain at the time) So in the UK, punk evolved from a youth rebellion, to a scene, with its own music & fashion. That's what the west coast adopted. The old rebel without a cause saying.
The germs themselves were more or less legit working class kids, but as for their fans, yeah there was definitely some of that. When Michelle casually refers to her parents being away "in China"...yeah, they've got some dough
Good thing we have you to be such an authority on an anti-authority movement. We all bow before your incredible knowledge and understanding of people you never knew, and a scene you were never part of.
Another “know it all” that knows nothing.
Yeah because the Sex Pistols were so hardcore
Don’t speak on things you don’t know of
Yes! Agreed!! Noone else I know has seemed to notice this yuppie chick's red flags, so to speak
@emasame sadly, it wont. those were very special times for anyone including myself who were fortunate sometimes it felt privileged to have grown up in the 80s
Who's the sympathetic dead kicking girl at 1:00 telling the story?
who is the girl?
unfortunately there arnt gonna be anybands like this for more reasons then one. 1 darby's dead and so are his vocals and lyrics, 2 new music has comeout that has taken over society adn punk rock will never be as huge that it was in 1980
damn darby the racial epithet was hardly necessary, people can be so ignorant
Not necessarily ignorant , ignorance implys lack of knowledge , Darby simply didn't give a shit , now fuck off
Yeah it’s cringe hearing it now but it was 1980 and it was a different world then
It's just a word and it hurt nobody. People don't care near as much as you think they do. It's funny to hear and he didn't say it to anyone maliciously. Grow up
I love that story! Tell it again!!
Typical for the times youthful non-sense. I guess it was funny when Darby lied there dead??? No respect for human life. I hate people who hate painters...
Fuck off
It’s not a true story
@@shnpio How do you know? Not challenging, just curious
I read Darby's biography- his friends said they had no idea he was gay. Really? No idea? I could show this video to a 5 year old and they could tell he was gay.
Those were fun shows. I used to like to throw big handfuls of shit at everyone. They'd be accidentally eating it. Darby was a cool dude, but not nearly as smart as people make him out to be.
He seems rather intelligent. Very interesting .
Phew lol
why?
okay, so where's your punk rock albums, and interviews?
that's what I thought.
awwww poor mexican painter ):
You mean w3tback painter
too bad this interview was fake.
they werent roomates. he lived with tony the hustler at the time
@Metalitron12 He died the same day actually. And the same night.
I'm going to guess that it's mint jelly. Lol.
Fuck else would it be
Not Mint Jelly...its Pepper Jelly.Green jalapeno Pepper jelly...ive made it and looks like that.
@hotpants69 live preformances were not so great yes, but album songs were awesome, also lets see germs were around sand started same year ramones did, they were a influence to most of your major punk bands of the late 70s and earl 80s era, that being said, Have you even watched some lives ramones videos Joey leaves out parts of the songs sometimes, lastly i didnt know punk shows were meant to be played to perfection, P.s brush up on our info of a band before you criticize.
@FerociousAmbrosis mint jelly. people use it on pork chops
LOL I hate painters.
I still can't believe my mom and dad named me after a guy in a punk rock band. But who gives a shit punk is awesome!
Darby Crash was 22 when he committed suicide he was 5 years short to the 27 Club.
"They" didn't make the racist jokes. Darby made the race joke, and I hardly think he was a serious racist. That term just wasn't as stigmatized back then, and he was an intentionally politically incorrect person anyway. As for the girl, she was specific individual... her problem wasn't that she came from a rich family, it was having shitty character as a person (and being a junky). If you had gone and met the kids from her neighborhood, most of them probably would have thought she was a jackass.
I think he was referencing and quoting what the Coroner said, it wasn't his words.
Just because you wear Nazi memorabilia I wouldn't say that makes you a shitty person or a sort of Nazi sympathizer. Lemmy wore that shit and nobody batted an eye, you know why? Because he didn't act like a fucking Nazi.
Chuy83 wait how the fuck was Lorna racist
@@killval849 its still sus if you wear nazi memorabilia regardless if you act like a nazi or not
@@dollmostwanted that’s how punks were back then, they wanted shock value from people so they wear swas..
well if ur a punk this is a letdown cuz there isnt gonna be another punk rock band that was as big as the germs sure they didnt know their instruments to well but they were good love them or hate them
PAINTERS WASN'T PAID OR HIS FAMILY NOT FIRWARD HIS PAY.
What can one say??
The Clarences love & support The Germs! "I hate painters"
didn't ask u to care. just pointing it out. glad you don't care about racist slander against your own people. ignorance is bliss i guess.
@hotpants69 Because he went to IPS school/program for gifted students, and studied brainwashng and manipulation, being as i didnt think they chose your average joe to take place in gifted programs.
dont say that thats what they said about rock and look whats going on? punks an additude so its gonna come back someday maybe tomorrow maybe in 100 years but i doubt itll ever be dead its like any other type of music ppl will allways like it.
You Had to be there! There was a rip in the time space contuem!l it was cool it wasn't cool it was real and it was gone!
when ed van halen records a song and fucks up the solo but leaves it on the record, anyway; then 500,000 kids learn to play the mistake just as he did...
Nope. This is what I found when I typed "nerdy couple," or something to the effect, into google images. :)
dude not like the germs in so many ways one the sound they had on records cannot be replaced also darbys lyrics cannot be copied either i say they were a great band in their prime to bad he isnt alive
@rrrickster69 i think they used her as their role model for slc punk lol
no michelle 1 of darby's groupies
is this pic your parents? ur dad looks like gabe kaplin and geddy lee morphed together
@chessgeek101 well put! Punk is and will always be an attitude way before they made it marketable through fashion, etc......... thats why i loathe stores like hot topic .more like hot pocket hot topic
"BECAUSE I HATE PAINTERS"
AHAHAHAHA
thats a good reason..hahhaa!
are you sure you arent
The manager sounds like the girl at the start of Mr. Ozio Flat beat...
I wonder where those two chicks are now.
"... I hate painters..."
lmfao
yeah i know they're still punk bands around but not like this one sure it doesnt sound good but darby was crazy because of the drugs and unfortunaetly he killed himself and no more germs but they were kickass
La puta madre,pasaron 5segs de video y todavía no puedo comprender cómo puede ser que alguiene sté tan drogado jaja
he fell of the ladder cough cough
not what i was trying to say.. u mite have to go back a couple pages to what i wrote before. i used to think of him as punk god. now i'm not so sure. it's a not a me versus others' views sort of thing. that comment was a respond to someone else's about racism.
If I had to live with that I'd off myself too.
@AUSROTTENY2K life isn't anything, it becomes whatever you think it is
what makes you think i am? is it bcoz i said "ive got nothing against gays"? I asked that question bcoz i just wanted to know f the story of the movie was all true about darby.
Yup. You are correct. I was still like wtf? though.
30 years ago t'day
Oh! That was joke, leading to a punchline...that was funny
@bhoussock How'd u kno he's gay?
Oh you are so funny! What happened next? Did you go to the special olympics and throw eggs?
@Rider409 i went to great shows in salt lake the indian center was the place to go funny nobody that made the movie knew
No, just mostly haha... I dunno, I'm weird but I'm uber-confident in my sexuality and intelligence(along with my humble pie), then again i'm pretty old these days. Good question though! Seems you've a half truth somewhere in there...
Juan Doe ...😆
no he was bisexual dude look up his history he like both genders
Gay men tend to like that sort of thing, Captain Obvious.
Hey. I heard Elton John might be gay too. Can you confirm this?
12 people like painters.
It looks like mint jelly.
God bless all amen 🙏
She hates painters??? WTF?
Darby Crash. A racist, junkie. What's not to love?
Indeed. What a fucken loser.
Marc's into pop punk
Good times (cough.)
Ride on Pat Smear.